Magician - O2 XDA Mini - WM5 to WM6 ROM

[greywolf]

Hi everybody,

I am looking at scraping my O2 XDA Mini WM5 and Flashing it to WM6. Was wondering if anyone has heard or has a reliable cooked ROM that they could recommend.

Appreciate any help :)

Greywolf

[bigcheekybird]

Where did you get the wm5 rom? and does the radio work?

[duke_stix]

its probably a charmer!

[bigcheekybird]

Im sure this has been asked before, but what is the difference between the charmer and the magician?

[greywolf]

Sorry, my bad, it is actually WM2003.... Sorry if I mislead :(

But surely it is possible to cook a ROM and flash it?


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Just found this :( bummer

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=323964

[shemi4444]

Hai every one.

Can any one can port the Rom of GIGABYTE G smart i to our magician, the specification of these two devices almost same

download location of the gigabyte rom

http://www.gigabytecm.com/eng/Download.aspx?id=17



Service GSM 900/1800/1900 ， GPRS class 10
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Main Display 2.4 inch, 262k color TFT LCD touch panel, 240 x 320 pixels
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Size 106.2 × 53 × 19.5mm
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Weight 130g (w / battery)
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Battery Li-Ion 920 mAh, Li-Ion 1300mAh is also available for purchase Talk Time: 3.5 hours
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Talk Time Digital Talk Time up to 3.5 hours
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Standby 170 hours
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Phonebook Maxium 500 contacts.
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Multimedia Messaging Service E-mail, SMS, MMS, MSN Messenger, Windows Mobile Direct Push
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Camera 2.1 mega pixels with macro function, digital zoom, and video recording
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Music/Video MP3/MPEG4 player
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Ringtone 192 polyphonic ringtone (64 polyphonic played simultaneously)
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Dictionary 100k words dictionary.
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GPRS/WAP GPRS Class10/ WAP2.0
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External Memory Mini SD (256MB Mini SD card is enclosed)
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CPU Intel PXA272, 416 MHz
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Memory ROM 64 MB, RAM 64 MB
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TV NTSC/PAL
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Radio FM
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Music MP3 Player
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Voice command Yes
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Data Transfer Interface Bluetooth 1.2, Mini USB 1.1
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Wi-Fi WLAN 802.11b
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Application Pocket MSN、IE、Windows Media Player、PowerPoint Mobile、Excel Mobile、Word Mobile


thanks

[b0ris747]

Hai every one.

Can any one can port the Rom of GIGABYTE G smart i to our magician, the specification of these two devices almost same

download location of the gigabyte rom

http://www.gigabytecm.com/eng/Download.aspx?id=17

thanks

Do you have details on internal components of this device?

Why don't you do it yourself and show us the beautiful result?

[jowl_tnt]

GIGABYTE G smart i

Memory ROM 64 MB, RAM 64 MB


Here is the proof for those who said that 64rom/ram can't handle wm5...

[b0ris747]

It's not much a ROM problem, but more a compatible nk.exe to find... And those devices are not well described, what kind of chips are inside? What is the memory map?
And after that problem, we'll have to cook a WM5 ROM using 2003 format? Is it supposed to work? Where is the ROM burned to on the gigabyte device? DOC or NAND?...

If you know anyone using this device, then you can try to share some informations about the internals of this device...

[jowl_tnt]

It's not much a ROM problem, but more a compatible nk.exe to find... And those devices are not well described, what kind of chips are inside? What is the memory map?
And after that problem, we'll have to cook a WM5 ROM using 2003 format? Is it supposed to work? Where is the ROM burned to on the gigabyte device? DOC or NAND?...


I haven't the technical knhowlege on these, but if someone of you can port the 'G Smart i' rom or find a way to upload on magician, I will test it on mine and let you know the results...

[b0ris747]

DIY!

Many threads about the always same question: when will someone do it?

Well... When one of you will do it :)

You can have a "WM6 style" (with 2003 binaries) using taxist's ROM (2.03TX)

It's the only alternate ROM for Magician... Maybe should you practice a bit cooking WM2003 ROMs, show us the result, and work on your WM5 or WM6 ROM :)

You won't waste time because you'll learn!

Good luck!

[bigcheekybird]

The minimum requirement of Windows Mobile 5.0 is 32MB RAM and 64MB ROM. For devices
having only 64MB ROM, there is a high chance that the devices may only be using a reduced version of WM5.

For example, HTC Galaxy has 64MB ROM and about 33-37MB of it is for persistent storage.
One of the models of the upcoming Fujitsu Siemens N500 series may also have only 64MB ROM.
And WM5 upgrade is also provided for devices having only 64MB ROM, e.g. iPAQ hx2110/2410,
FSC Pocket LOOX 700s and Acer n50.

The Htc Atom Uses the exact same processor as the htc magician, You could use the nk.exe
from the atom to make the magicians one


Htc Atom

Specifications
Date Announced 2005, 3Q
Network Technology GSM 900 / 1800 / 1900
Hardware/Processor Intel PXA272 416MHz processor
Dimensions (mm) 102 x 58 x 18.5
Weight (g) 140
Display Screen Size : 2.7 inch, 240 x 320
Screen Color : TFT 262k Colours (65k effective)

Design Type : Blok
Navigation Key : 5 way Navigation Key
Other Keys : Volume up/down, Camera, Recorder
Antenna : Fixed Internal

Memory Phonebook : Advance
Internal(MB) : 64MB SDRAM, 128MB ROM
Expansion : miniSD, SDIO

Battery Battery Type : Li-ion 1500mAh
Stand-by (hrs) : 150
TalkTime(min) : 330

Entertainment
Ringtones Polyphonic : 64-chord polyphonics
Customization : MIDI, MP3, WMA, WAV

MP3 Yes
A2DP Yes
TV Receiver Null
FM Radio Yes
Video Record Yes
Video Support MPEG-4, H.263, WMV
Audio Support MIDI, MP3, WMA, WAV, AMR (Stereo Speakers, 10-band equalizer, 2.5mm Audio
Jack)
Voice Support Recording, Dial
Games Solitaire and Jawbreaker
Messaging
SMS Yes
MMS Yes
EMS No
Email Pocket Outlook
Connectivity
HSDPA Null
EDGE Yes, Class 10
Bluetooth Yes
3G No
GPRS Class 10 (4+1/3+2 slots)
Infrared (IrDA) Yes
USB Port Yes
WIFI/WLAN 802.11b
Data Cable RS-232, mini USB
Software
Java (J2ME) Yes ,MIDP 2.0, CLDC 1.1
WAP Yes Ver 2.0
Platform / OS Windows Mobile 5.0
Browser Internet Explorer Mobile
Other Application Windows Media Player Mobile 10, Office Mobile (Word Mobile,
Excel Mobile, Powerpoint Mobile), O2 MediaPlus, ActiveSync 4.0, PDF Viewer
Personals
Themes No Info.
Caller ID Photo
ProfileID Yes
Camera
Lens Type CMOS, 2.0 Megapixel
Digital zoom
Max. Resolution 1600 x 1200
Flash Yes
Night Mode Yes
Multi Shot Yes
Extra Features self-portrait mirror, self timer, landscape mode
Photo Format JPEG(1600x1200,1024x768, 640x480, 320x240,176x144)
Video Yes
Video Format MPEG-4 (352 x 288, 176 x 144, 128 x 96)

i know nothing on how to make an nk.exe and how they work so im unable even try to make one.

[b0ris747]

The minimum requirement of Windows Mobile 5.0 is 32MB RAM and 64MB ROM. For devices
having only 64MB ROM, there is a high chance that the devices may only be using a reduced version of WM5.

i know nothing on how to make an nk.exe and how they work so im unable even try to make one.

If you don't show me you can do it, I'll think you're a lier (you cannot prove what you say) or someone working for Microsoft used to make us waste our time answering stupidest questions in the world (like 30 already existing topics for WM5/WM6 for magician...). If it's that easy, why don't you do it?

You don't act, you don't ask...

I will definitely not try to help some lazy kids that just want to have "the most hacked toy is the univers, with WM6.66 and new LEDz!"

Just do it (is it a known slogan or sth? :p )

[bigcheekybird]

If you don't show me you can do it, I'll think you're a lier (you cannot prove what you say) or someone working for Microsoft used to make us waste our time answering stupidest questions in the world (like 30 already existing topics for WM5/WM6 for magician...). If it's that easy, why don't you do it?

You don't act, you don't ask...

I will definitely not try to help some lazy kids that just want to have "the most hacked toy is the univers, with WM6.66 and new LEDz!"

Just do it (is it a known slogan or sth? :p )

What part of i dont much about nk.exe.I am a newbie, you said in a previous forum that the prob was finding an nk.exe that uses the same processor as the magician, i found it and as u know more than me i thought you could help. i know its not that easy but surely its not impossible. There are many devices out there that run 5.0 that came out with 2003se that have 64mb rom.

[Mateso]

What part of i dont much about nk.exe.I am a newbie, you said in a previous forum that the prob was finding an nk.exe that uses the same processor as the magician, i found it and as u know more than me i thought you could help. i know its not that easy but surely its not impossible. There are many devices out there that run 5.0 that came out with 2003se that have 64mb rom.

Maybe we shall contact somebody who will try to take the challenge. Maybe try to put the message on homepage od XDA and so on. B0ris dont be so negative.. maybe it will be very hard but it sounds possible (maybe its still impossible with his rom, dunno, dont have skills to say it right) so we must try to contact somebody who can do it.

[Eikichi]

Maybe we shall contact somebody who will try to take the challenge. Maybe try to put the message on homepage od XDA and so on. B0ris dont be so negative.. maybe it will be very hard but it sounds possible (maybe its still impossible with his rom, dunno, dont have skills to say it right) so we must try to contact somebody who can do it.

You can try contacting helmi, he made WM6 possible for three devices believed to be WM6-less for a long time (Blue Angel,Himalaya and Apache) and he Did it! The guy is just pure genius.

[Chatty]

If he'd be successful that'd probably boost Magician sales all over the world. That'd be awkward for all retailers since it's considered an abandoned device.

[b0ris747]

I'm not so negative...

They are looking for someone's else work... why don't they do that themselves? Because it's easier that way!

WM6 on magician is possible, everyone is sure about that, but the ones who wants it are not the ones who are participating... Always the same problem, bummers asks, developpers escapes!

Personnally, before arguing about if it's possible or not, they should try to cook a 2003 ROM (how many of these were created? 1? 2? Then we can all consider ourselves a great Magician gurus! It's so eeaeaaassssyyyyy! no need to try!), try to analyse bootloaders to identify the comaptible ROM formats (WM5 using 2003 ROM format: can you explain me how you do?). Then try some ubiquio401 reverse and FIND UBIQUIO 401 HARDWARE SPECS AND MEMORY MAP

Being negative? How can't I ?

Do you see anyone here who says "I definitely want it" and made anything to make it true? none! asat!

[Chatty]

@b0ris747: I think it's just not worth the time. It would probably take ages to figure out all that stuff, but for what? Noone is gonna pay you for that... more over you might be sued for copyright infringement.

[b0ris747]

That's why I posted some weeks ago that efforts shall be gathered to have a bootable linux... Seem difficult (specially the bootldr step) but quite less than 2003 -> WM5/6... And experts are available!

I tried the haret loaded version of linux on magician, it was great... But still problems with suspend/resume and some things to fix (GSM)...

Maybe in some days I'll give it a new try, and will retry making a cross-compiler toolchain...

No limitations, everything can be rebuild based on your needs... Maybe the ultimate alternative is here!

[Mateso]

I have sold MDAc today, so I am out. Today I am going to buy MIO A701 and will stay away from HTC products for a while. Wish you luck with MDAc. Its a great device but I need WM5/6. I have been thinking about the whole WM5 MDAc thing and I realized I will not wait for miracle. B0ris was right with whole thing. Nobody nowadays will give a sh*t about MDAc.. :(

[gaininges]

Please help me...i just bought this phone..2nd hand,then i cant turn on the phone..i already push the reset button..then its stil the ALIGN SCREEN same..i appriciate if anyone can help me solve this probs..email me at gaininges@gmail.com..

[gaininges]

O2 XDA MINI S

* 1 - Holding "Voice Dial" + "Wireless Manager" while short pressing the "reset"
button
* 2 - Hold the 2 buttons until you see the screen telling you to press send butt
on to hard reset.
* 3 - Press "send/dial" button to hard reset
These instructions are good, but it took me a little while to get them to work. You have to ACTUALLY switch the device off first. That means holding down the power button for 2-3 seconds until it says something like, "Do you really want to sawitch it off properly?" or whatever and then choose Yes. Then follow the instructions above AFTER gaininges@gmail.com