What GPS software package are you guys thinking of using?

[sherpa]

Well, I am all prepared to buy the Kaiser when it hits the market. I am already looking at the GPS software packages out there for my Kaiser (hopefully GPS is not locked to Telenav). Even if it is locked, I am pretty sure all the good cooks out here will modify the ROM to fix this. :) What are you all thinking about using?

[3waygeek]

I've been using Route 66 on my Wizard and it works quite well. DeLorme Pocket Street Atlas is OK but the maps and routing aren't as good.

Lots of people swear by TomTom, and a few reviewers/testers have used it on their pre-production Kaisers. Both semsons.com & buygpsnow.com have a wide selection of GPS software packages.

[PPCNUT]

I use tomtom and find it great.

[mikeeey]

i think ill also use tomtom. which one is the best?
ive never owned a gps device, so that's the only software ive really heard of..

[newbie2]

I've been using OCN6 with my Wizard. . . anxious to see if it works with the Kaiser/8925/Tilt. ;)

[kaiserchief]

Route66 for me. I want my traffic information without having to pay a subscription...

Only thing that could be improved is the frequency of the map updates, where TomTom is the clear winner, but I've had no problems with my R66 map accuracy so far.

[southy]

regarding the GPS:
Does anyone of you know wether there is GPS Software that could pull images from google maps?
Like a "show me satellite image of my current location" - button?

I think that would be really cool, but does it already exist?

And secondly, I'm looking for a GPS - Software that runs in the background and logs the GPS coordinates in order to geotag photos from my digicam later. Any recommendations here?

[technillion]

I use Mapopolis and it works and looks great on my ETEN X500+ VGA device. I'll use it when I get the Kaiser too. The resolution will go down but I still love the program.

Mapopolis has a GPS TRAIL option that logs your trip at preset intervals (every 5 minutes, 5 miles or whatever). All you have to do then is use the Location SMS feature of WM6 with pictures attached at capture the places you want. From there, you can create a nice Trip Photo Album with coordinates or send the trip via email.

TEC

[Nicky]

I can't really compare software as I have only used Tomtom, but I have always found the program great and have never felt tempted to even try another software package because it has always worked so well.

[evolution_theory]

With my 8525 I purchased the Garmin Mobile 10 which is this awesome little gps receiver that fits in your palm. It's bluetooth and all I do is put the tiny thing in my pocket. It uses Garmin software and works amazingly well. I'm wondering whether this would be MORE accurate than the built in GPS receiver in the Kaiser. If this is more accurate then I'll keep on using it but if the 8925 works just as well then I'll probably sell the garmin.

[ksjulsen]

regarding the GPS:
Does anyone of you know wether there is GPS Software that could pull images from google maps?
Like a "show me satellite image of my current location" - button?

I think that would be really cool, but does it already exist?

And secondly, I'm looking for a GPS - Software that runs in the background and logs the GPS coordinates in order to geotag photos from my digicam later. Any recommendations here?


u should check this out, i just found out about it yesterday

Pdafun.net

its a program called "Google Navigator"

[evolution_theory]

u should check this out, i just found out about it yesterday

Pdafun.net

its a program called "Google Navigator"

Wow great find. The downside to this software though is it requires an internet connection to connect to google when planning routes. So, if you don't have coverage then youre going to get lost. :o

[dai_white]

The Vario III will be coming with CoPilot out of the box (there are having alot of problems in the testing of this cant cant make it work) they are also having problems gettin the WiFi stay on. So all you UK users who are after the Vario III (me included) will be waiting till the start of Oct :(

[UnicornKaz]

I own "iGuidance" which works on the PocketPC .. will test it out once I have the Kaiser ;) :D

*crossing fingers*

:p

[dwella]

I own "iGuidance" which works on the PocketPC .. will test it out once I have the Kaiser ;) :D

*crossing fingers*

:p

If anybody wants to send me a Kaiser I will try several packages out and report back in a review format.......

d

[Johnston411]

The Vario III will be coming with CoPilot out of the box (there are having alot of problems in the testing of this cant cant make it work) they are also having problems gettin the WiFi stay on. So all you UK users who are after the Vario III (me included) will be waiting till the start of Oct :(

Says here its coming with tom tom taster version

http://www.4winmobile.com/forums/windows-mobile-press-releases/11623-htc-launches-htc-tytn-ii-europe-ultimate-mobile-companion.html

[ahfunaki]

I'll be using iGuidance, as it's what I'm using now on my Hermes...

[cp1md2b]

I'll be using TomTom Nav 6. It also has a satelite download but I've never used it.

[Jason Lee]

I just got my TyTN II and installed iguidance 3.0.1.

It doesn't actually start most of the time. It appears to run once after a reboot but then not again. :(

I can see the exe in the process list but the app is not actually running. or never finishes starting.

So maybe i will give tom tom a try. LOL

Edit: Oh actually i ran it and waited 10 minutes and the program actually launched.. so there are definitely a few issues.

[rsolomon]

I use Mapopolis and it works and looks great on my ETEN X500+ VGA device. I'll use it when I get the Kaiser too. The resolution will go down but I still love the program.

Actually, I'd love if someone with a Kaiser would try Mapopolis - just load the Los Angeles, USA map and see if it's usable. My Hermes dogs out completely at high zoom levels - I'm presuming due to only 64MB of memory vs the 128MB in my old iPAQ 5555. (By "dogs out" I mean drag-panning the map is extremely jerky and category searches take near to a minute!)

Mapopolis' POI management is second to none, and it's had text-to-speech for ages. TomTom v6.030 is the latest PocketPC version I've found and it still has no text-to-speech, won't allow you to add your own POIs to the canned categories, etc.

Richard

[demione]

And secondly, I'm looking for a GPS - Software that runs in the background and logs the GPS coordinates in order to geotag photos from my digicam later. Any recommendations here?

you don't want this, bro... i've thought of writing apps for this sort of thing in the past but i always come back to how having GPS on all the time would suck battery life way too much.

it'd be nice to have, and i'm sure in 5 to 10 years it'll be commonlpace in phones & mobile computers, but we're just not there yet from a technology standpoint.

[shawndh]

I'm not a Kaiser owner (just lusting after one) but I've been using Tom Tom on my Artemis and it's just an awesome program. I was able to pick one up for $100 on Amazon.com, used. I had reservations about stending a wod on this software and not like it, but I've had no desire to use another program. It just works so smoothly with WM6.

It's an expensive software so, search for a good deal and just buy it. Every map is not going to be perfect but it is a top notch software.

[3waygeek]

I used Route 66 Navigate 7 on my Kaiser the other day -- it worked pretty well overall. I paired the Kaiser with my Sony MEX-BT5000 head unit in A2DP mode so that Route 66's voice commands would go through my car audio system. This worked very well, much better than on my old Qtek 9100 which tended to truncate some of the A2DP voice commands.

Time to first fix seems to be about 30 seconds even after running QuickGPS -- others have reported faster times, but I'm not seeing them.

[RacerX10]

I just got my TyTN II and installed iguidance 3.0.1.

It doesn't actually start most of the time. It appears to run once after a reboot but then not again. :(

I can see the exe in the process list but the app is not actually running. or never finishes starting.

So maybe i will give tom tom a try. LOL

Edit: Oh actually i ran it and waited 10 minutes and the program actually launched.. so there are definitely a few issues.


iGuidance 4.0 is available now .. that's what i use on my blueangel .. and what i'm planning to use on a Kaiser

[pho]

you don't want this, bro... i've thought of writing apps for this sort of thing in the past but i always come back to how having GPS on all the time would suck battery life way too much.

it'd be nice to have, and i'm sure in 5 to 10 years it'll be commonlpace in phones & mobile computers, but we're just not there yet from a technology standpoint.

i am going to do this to. i got rrid of my sony gps unit for this purpose. i will try vito tracker. it looksl ike it will do the jobn.

i am also going to try tom tom but o am using windows live search right now with my blackjack amd its awsome

[gogol]

I tried tomtom 6.0.32 from the CD and it worked fine. Got the fix under 30 seconds :)

I think I will stay with tomtom from the kaiser CD.

[tworhythms]

I just got my TyTN II and installed iguidance 3.0.1.

It doesn't actually start most of the time. It appears to run once after a reboot but then not again. :(

I can see the exe in the process list but the app is not actually running. or never finishes starting.

So maybe i will give tom tom a try. LOL

Edit: Oh actually i ran it and waited 10 minutes and the program actually launched.. so there are definitely a few issues.

This is a "known" issue with iGuidance. I learned the hard way that if you want the program to load quickly, disable your data connection. This was a problem with my x7500 as well. I was ready to load TomTom 6 and found a post related to this issue so I decided to give it a try and it works like a charm!
My question is....has this been fixed in version 4? Thinking of upgrading.

[CrozB]

With my 8525 I purchased the Garmin Mobile 10 which is this awesome little gps receiver that fits in your palm. It's bluetooth and all I do is put the tiny thing in my pocket. It uses Garmin software and works amazingly well. I'm wondering whether this would be MORE accurate than the built in GPS receiver in the Kaiser. If this is more accurate then I'll keep on using it but if the 8925 works just as well then I'll probably sell the garmin.


E.T.

I don't think you can use Garmin's Software without their GPS hardware. I too like their Software, but can't get it to work with my Holux.

I personally Love Mapopolis! Worries me that they have discontinued this great software :-(

[bersca]

I recommend iGo My Way 2006 for USA. It is pretty sharp looking, a lot of functionality and quick routing. I've had problems with TeleAtlas maps in the past, but the updated 2007 maps appear to have solved most of the problems in my area (Florida).

[palmop]

u should check this out, i just found out about it yesterday

Pdafun.net

its a program called "Google Navigator"

Try also Map4Pda, it can pull data from Google, MSN or Yahoo

http://map4pda.com/

[rvdgeer]

I'm a very lucky man!
This week my Wizard (T-Mobie MDA Vario) had some troubles and my insurance instantly decided it should be replaced...
Long story short: I traded in mij Wizard for a TyTN II!

Now I've installed all my favourite software, including iGO 2006 SE Plus
It's the best GPS-software I know!

If you're a beginning or regular user of GPS software: stick with something like TomTom or Route66.
But if you really like to play with it and even tweak it a little: go with iGO...

Especially the screenshots of iGO 8 (due december) are great!!!

[pserbanp]

I use Miomap for Estern and Western Europe :)

[CrozB]

Actually, I'd love if someone with a Kaiser would try Mapopolis - ... Richard

Richard,

I just got my TytnII in and Mapopolis is working great for me. I agree that Mapopolos POI is great.

The thing that keeps me with Mapopolis more than any other is the ability to Zoom WAY OUT yet turn the map detail WAY UP. This is great when I am in the middle of the forest and I need to be out to zoom out to see if a forest road goes through (not a dead end). Most software forest smaller roads to disappear as you zoom out. Mapopolis gives you full contold over this feature :-)

[sturdza]

Well Guys,

THe best Navi for the TtTN is www.i-go.com

None has more european countries covered and everyone is very well covered. Even Romania Bulgaria asf are covered !

Nice touch and feel !

[sturdza]

Also I-Go has a way of TOPO-3D- Display that is quite unique.

check it out :

http://www.i-go.com/en/news/index.php?aid=110

[sturdza]

Aorry I was talking about the TyTN II aka Kaiser

[CrozB]

Also I-Go has a way of TOPO-3D- Display that is quite unique.

check it out :

http://www.i-go.com/en/news/index.php?aid=110

igo looks hot , but I can't find a link to purchase the USA verison.

Anyone have a url or am I just blind?

[RemE]

I'm a big fan of iGuidance. Loaded v4.0 (which uses NavTech Maps, All US and Canada in a single 1.2gig file, no messing with maploaders any more. Running on my Kaiser, it's flawless so far. I got 8 sats in my backyard, 6 in the house, and 10 on the road. Used it to route to a friends while driving, it was saved as a fav, took about 15 seconds from launching the prog to getting verbal directions.

After arriving I just pressed power on the phone, drove home later, took out the phone, powered it on and iGuidance repositioned the map back to home in about 10 seconds. I'm really happy with integrated GPS and how well it plays with iGuidance.

Regarding iGo, I believe it's sold in the USA as OCN (On Course Navagator). It looked pretty but I was turned off by Tel Atlas maps from previous apps like CoPilot. I also believe that you must use their memory card with preloaded map data, a total non-starter for me. I use a 4 gig card, 1 gig for mapping, 3 for media, some music and 3-4 full length movies and Coreplayer. I'm not a card swapper, just can't wait for 8 gig cards!

[rsolomon]

I just got my TytnII in and Mapopolis is working great for me.

Good to hear - what platform did you move over from? Can you try Los Angeles - that one (14MB?) map clobbered my TyTN like nobody's business :( I'd noticed and been annoyed by the slowness vs my old iPAQ, but LA was completely unusable once zoomed in a bit - and I finally threw in the towel.

Thanks!
Richard

[sturdza]

Hi again,

I did not have much time, but after googling the search term xxx I found this: http://www.gpsunderground.com/igo-and-miomap/usa-and-canada-maps-2007-for-igo-and-miomap/

ATTENTION: I believe this is not a legal site so do not do anything illegal. The only reason for me to post this is that its shows that there is USA Maps...

So if one of you out there could please try to find the link to the USA Product Site for I-GO, please let us all know.

[CrozB]

Good to hear - what platform did you move over from? Can you try Los Angeles - that one (14MB?) map clobbered my TyTN like nobody's business :( I'd noticed and been annoyed by the slowness vs my old iPAQ, but LA was completely unusable once zoomed in a bit - and I finally threw in the towel.

Thanks!
Richard

I am coming from a Treo 750.

I loaded the 14MB LA county and had no trouble with it. I zoomed in and out pan sided to side and worked just like here.
I then loaded the entire Cali state and Arizona state (where I live) and all 50 Major Roads.. Then routed a trip from Phoenix to LAX. Took 37 secs to compile the route. I then used the step through to simulate the route and it went fine. Turned detail up to 100% and drug the map around the airport and near by areas in LA and there was no delay.

If you think your map file is bad, or want to test mine, PM me and I will give you a copy of my LA to test.

[CrozB]

Hi again,

I did not have much time, but after googling the search term xxx I found this: http://www.gpsunderground.com/igo-and-miomap/usa-and-canada-maps-2007-for-igo-and-miomap/

ATTENTION: I believe this is not a legal site so do not do anything illegal. The only reason for me to post this is that its shows that there is USA Maps...

So if one of you out there could please try to find the link to the USA Product Site for I-GO, please let us all know.


Thanks for this link... I actually already tried that link for hours this morning. I downloaded both iGo and MioMap (igo OEM I believe), but BOTH failed to install. The install got about 2/3 of the way done but just HUNG.

FYI I also tried Route 66 there too, and although the install worked, I never got it to run on my TyTN II.

I think that site is probably "not legal", however, I have not issues with people testing software before they buy. That is how I got hooked on Mapopolis, they had a demo, and I got hooked. I have paid for maps from them every year since then, but alas, it was not enough to keep them afloat. I would really like to find something to replace Mapopolis (only because Mapopolis is not making new maps). But I want to make sure that what I find to replace it has some of the features that are important to me.

Couple Softwares I have tried but been disappointed in are:
-- TomTom
-- Garmin Mobile XT.
With these 2 softwares you cannot tap the map without it going in to a menu mode. I want to be able to drag the map around without having to go through a menu to get to a "Browse map Mode" I want to be able to add way points right from the main map. And most of all I want to be able to have more control of the detail, even if it means it slows down the processes. I do a LOT of back road/forest road riding on my motorcycle and I want to be able to see what roads go through and which are dead ends. I am willing to pay for good software, but it SUCKS shelling out 100.00 - 150.00 a pop just to be disappointed. I really appreciate the way TomTom did the release with the TytnII… Allows us to test it with 1 free map. Unfortunately, IMHO, TomTom still sucks :-P

[3waygeek]

Route 66 will run on the Tytn II -- I've been running it for more than a week. Of course, I have a legal copy, which may make a difference. :)

[rsolomon]

I am coming from a Treo 750.

I loaded the 14MB LA county and had no trouble with it. I zoomed in and out pan sided to side and worked just like here.
I then loaded the entire Cali state and Arizona state (where I live) and all 50 Major Roads.. Then routed a trip from Phoenix to LAX. Took 37 secs to compile the route. I then used the step through to simulate the route and it went fine. Turned detail up to 100% and drug the map around the airport and near by areas in LA and there was no delay.

Awesome thanks! Except you're probably going to cost me $800 to buy a Kaiser now! :)

I'm sure my maps are good - I too have been a legal and loyal Mapopolis owner for years, and these are the NE maps - which work fine on my iPAQ. I think the 64MB RAM of the TyTN is just too little for Mapopolis :(

Thanks again,
Richard

[andresherrera]

I live in Colombia South America, and was wondering if anyone has any suggestions about what software to use in Colombia. Also does any one know if there is any software for when you are off the main roads and dont want to use maps but navigate with the GPS?

[aublumberg]

Any kind soul able to upload the "Installer_Kaiser_ttn_6_032_8351_HTC_WWE_20070716.e xe" for those of us that didn't have it on their bundled CD ... thanks

[rsolomon]

Any kind soul able to upload the "Installer_Kaiser_ttn_6_032_8351_HTC_WWE_20070716.e xe" for those of us that didn't have it on their bundled CD ... thanks

It seems to me that since TomTom licenses the maps not the executables and since one can download the executables from TomTom.com if one figures out the correct paths, it should actually be legal to share this file....and I'd like to get my hands on it also.

Richard

P.S. I'm not a lawyer, I don't even play one on TV.

[mlai]

In Asia (primarily in Hong Kong, something sin Singapore and Jakarta Indonesia).

Used Mapking 2007 with Hong Kong, Singapore and Jakarta maps on Atom Life and HTC P3600i before with no problem. However, mapking 2007 seems to hiccup with the GPS in Kaiser. It will refresh the GPS positions only 2 or 3 times a minute.

So I am testing MS Live Search and Google Maps for mobile at the moment. MS Live search is most responsive with the GPS tracking on Kaiser but unfortunately, it doesn't offer much for cities other than those in US and UK. I haven't even successfully searched any address in Hong Kong or Asia yet.

Google map is not bad and Asia support is better than MS Live Search. But somtimes when I am driving, it will show that I am in the middle of the building blocks. And routing is also less then stellar.....

So far, I have had the most success with Smart2Go. Quite smooth GPS tracking and navigation. Routing still needs to be improved. But almost all of the addresses that I throw at it seems to be correct. Asia cities coverage is quick ok but not at a level of detail that can compare to Mapking......

My 2cents...

[Davebravey]

Using TomTom 6 here and GoogleMaps. Just wondering tho' is there any software about good enough for Geocashing?

[CrozB]

... is there any software about good enough for Geocashing?


I use Mapopolis with the GPXToMaplet applet. It works great for Geocaching. However, although Mapopolis 4.8 is Free for the download, they are no longer selling maps. I am hunting around for a good on/off road replacement, but with no Demos out there it is hard see what would be able to replace such a good application.

Good Luck

[cdd543]

Thanks for this link... I actually already tried that link for hours this morning. I downloaded both iGo and MioMap (igo OEM I believe), but BOTH failed to install. The install got about 2/3 of the way done but just HUNG.

FYI I also tried Route 66 there too, and although the install worked, I never got it to run on my TyTN II.

I think that site is probably "not legal", however, I have not issues with people testing software before they buy. That is how I got hooked on Mapopolis, they had a demo, and I got hooked. I have paid for maps from them every year since then, but alas, it was not enough to keep them afloat. I would really like to find something to replace Mapopolis (only because Mapopolis is not making new maps). But I want to make sure that what I find to replace it has some of the features that are important to me.

Couple Softwares I have tried but been disappointed in are:
-- TomTom
-- Garmin Mobile XT.
With these 2 softwares you cannot tap the map without it going in to a menu mode. I want to be able to drag the map around without having to go through a menu to get to a "Browse map Mode" I want to be able to add way points right from the main map. And most of all I want to be able to have more control of the detail, even if it means it slows down the processes. I do a LOT of back road/forest road riding on my motorcycle and I want to be able to see what roads go through and which are dead ends. I am willing to pay for good software, but it SUCKS shelling out 100.00 - 150.00 a pop just to be disappointed. I really appreciate the way TomTom did the release with the TytnII… Allows us to test it with 1 free map. Unfortunately, IMHO, TomTom still sucks :-P


The problem I have with tomtom is their lousy poi database. It really is terrible compared to others. I was hoping it had improved since I used it last, but it hasn't. I personally like telenav and will be glad when the 8925 version is launched so I can grab it.
Google maps works very well..better than my on my blackberry or iphone.

[tworhythms]

Can anyone confirm the operation of iGuidance 4 while push mail is enabled? I am running version 3 and there is a known problem with the time it takes to load the program and the speed of the voice prompts (delays in sentences). I am really interested in upgrading but I hesitate until I know these issues have been resolved. Also, I am in Canada and really like my Tim Hortons. Is this POI on this version? Please...please....please! :)

[RemE]

I can say for sure that iGuidance v4 fixed all problems with WM6. The prog loads in about 3-5 seconds and I've made calls, checked contacts, opened google maps with GPS, turned the phone off and On and it still returns to operation. It has not crashed once. The new version has dropped the maploader and now places the whole US and Canada into a single 1.2gig file so you do need to have a MicroSD card to handle this. I can't confirm push mail but I believe it would work.

There is also Text to speech in v4. To minimize delays, they use the standard canned voice for most of the body of any prompt, then kick-in the text engine just to pronounce the unique road name. It's slightly odd as the accent's are different.

From GPSpassion forum I got a reg hack to force all TTS or No TTS and ended up going back to this hybrid mode as it works best all around as it is nice to have actual street names called out. The all TTS mode did cause some delay at times with long prompts, but that was with Hermes. I haven't bothered to try these options on Kaiser. It you went with all canned voice, it would give minimum system loading.

I tried to find "Tim Hortons" but don't know where to look.

[tworhythms]

Thanks for the update. I think I will give v4 a try as it does seem to have more enhancements that will make this already great software package, even better.

P.S. Tim Hortons could be under "Fast food" or "Coffee Shops". Canadians love their "Timmy's" ;)

[nanjin]

Gentlemen and Gentleladies,

I have a TytnII and tried installing the TomTom Navigator 6 and have problems. Everytime when I run the program, it says No Map Found, in fact I have the US and Canada map installed into the memory card. I called TomTom many times and uninstall and install many times as instructed by the support rep but always have the same result: No Map Found. Now they said I have to contact their senior tech support to fix the problem tomorrow. Anybody run into the same problem as mine? Interestingly, I tried installing the N6 to a HTC P3600 but the same problem showed up again. I have a feeling the TT Nav 6 does not work with the phone. BTW, their rep are kind of rude. Any comment?

[robroth]

I installed iGuidance v4 today on my 8925 (with OEM HTC Rom) and it seems that iGuidance won't start until I have a GPS lock. ie, none of the GPS apps work (Live Mobile, Google maps, iGuidance, GPSdash) until I first run GPSviewer. By not work, I mean they don't detect the GPS hardware. Once I run GPSviewer (which for some odd reason DOES work) and get a lock, THEN if I start iGuidance, it starts right up (I installed it on the device, 11meg... ouch). But if I don't run GPSviewer first, it never starts. I'm really not sure what's going on, I didn't have this issue with the ATT ROM. I'm a previous user of iGuidance 2.0 on my laptop, but switched to Navigon MN|5 on my first PPC because it was 240x240 and iGuidance wouldn't run in that resolution. I'm looking forward to going back, it's a really excellent piece of software (at least it was on my laptop).

[dwella]

Gentlemen and Gentleladies,

I have a TytnII and tried installing the TomTom Navigator 6 and have problems. Everytime when I run the program, it says No Map Found, in fact I have the US and Canada map installed into the memory card. I called TomTom many times and uninstall and install many times as instructed by the support rep but always have the same result: No Map Found. Now they said I have to contact their senior tech support to fix the problem tomorrow. Anybody run into the same problem as mine? Interestingly, I tried installing the N6 to a HTC P3600 but the same problem showed up again. I have a feeling the TT Nav 6 does not work with the phone. BTW, their rep are kind of rude. Any comment?

I am guessing that you need to tell the TT program where the maps are located ie point towards the storage card.

d

[RemE]

I installed iGuidance v4 today on my 8925 (with OEM HTC Rom) and it seems that iGuidance won't start until I have a GPS lock. ie, none of the GPS apps work (Live Mobile, Google maps, iGuidance, GPSdash) until I first run GPSviewer. By not work, I mean they don't detect the GPS hardware. Once I run GPSviewer (which for some odd reason DOES work) and get a lock, THEN if I start iGuidance, it starts right up (I installed it on the device, 11meg... ouch). But if I don't run GPSviewer first, it never starts. I'm really not sure what's going on, I didn't have this issue with the ATT ROM. I'm a previous user of iGuidance 2.0 on my laptop, but switched to Navigon MN|5 on my first PPC because it was 240x240 and iGuidance wouldn't run in that resolution. I'm looking forward to going back, it's a really excellent piece of software (at least it was on my laptop).

That's odd, I can fire up v4 indoors without a lock and see the GPS amber light blink. If I do get a fix, the prog then places the green arrow onto the map.

[nanjin]

I am guessing that you need to tell the TT program where the maps are located ie point towards the storage card.

d

The problem is once I run the program, it says "No Map Found," and the only other icon that I can click is "cancel." There is nothing else I can choose. Well I guess I have to wait till tomorrow when I talk to the so call "senior tech."

I will post the result tomorrow after I talk to the so call "senior" tech. Nevertheless, the phone works great with Google Map.

[maryjos]

So if one of you out there could please try to find the link to the USA Product Site for I-GO, please let us all know.

Sure, here you go:

OnCourse Navigator (http://www.oncoursenavigator.com)

I must say, this does look really nice! I'm a bit put off by it having to run on its own card, but I could probably live with it. Anyone tried this software on the Kaiser yet?

[maryjos]

I did some googling and found a number of fairly glowing reviews of the onCourse software. This definitely looks like it could be the winner for me.

http://www.pocketnow.com/index.php?a=portal_detail&t=reviews&id=949


http://the-gadgeteer.com/review/easy_pocketnav_ocn6 (http://the-gadgeteer.com/review/easy_pocketnav_ocn6)

http://discussion.buygpsnow.com/forums/thread/4243.aspx

[RemE]

While OCN looks nice, and Garmin's PPC software as well, I would never get a mapping prog that forced me to be swapping cards on the road. A-it's a pain and the microSD's are so freaking small that you might damage or loose it. B-I keep many things on that card, photo cache, email's etc and would never want the "main" card out of the phone.

But to each their own.

[rsolomon]

While OCN looks nice, and Garmin's PPC software as well, I would never get a mapping prog that forced me to be swapping cards on the road.

Agreed - I don't mind paying for my s/w but I don't want to be locked down like that. Heck, I hate the authentication schemes that tie me to a particular piece of hardware! IMO the best protection is to key on a user's name and address/phone#/whatever info. Then if there are pirated copies floating around it's relatively obvious where they came from - and paying users aren't inconvenienced. </soapbox>

Richard

[frickinflip]

i just got google maps and it seems to be working find for me... especially for living in Hawaii.

[maryjos]

While OCN looks nice, and Garmin's PPC software as well, I would never get a mapping prog that forced me to be swapping cards on the road. A-it's a pain and the microSD's are so freaking small that you might damage or loose it.

Yeah, it's definitely not everyone's cup of tea and I think they are somewhat shooting themselves in the foot by doing it. At the least, they could have an "upgrade" version that comes on a 6 gig micro card so you could use it for all your other stuff as well. If enough people write and ask for that, maybe they'll consider it! For me, it's not a huge issue since I only would be using this as a backup GPS solution when not in my own car...and I carry a purse so reasonably easy to tuck the other card in there in one of the interior pockets. Still a bit of a risk to loose it, but fairly minor one for me.

[jgermuga]

While OCN looks nice, and Garmin's PPC software as well, I would never get a mapping prog that forced me to be swapping cards on the road. A-it's a pain and the microSD's are so freaking small that you might damage or loose it. B-I keep many things on that card, photo cache, email's etc and would never want the "main" card out of the phone.

But to each their own.

I have the Garmin Mobile 20 and it does not require you to use their memory card, however it DOES require you to use their Bluetooth GPS receiver. I have contacted support, but from digin around their website it looks like they have a soon to be relaeased product that works with on board receivers, but the only format I came across was a preloaded card.

So I can not say for sure, but suspect they may also be locking down the software via the card. I certainly hope they offer more options because this totally defeats the purpose of my use. I cradle my phone in the car and use it as both a NAV system and an MP3 player. Taking away my ability to get a large card means I have less room for tunes. And on top of this I will have 45 states of map data that I will never use?

My set up right now allows me to load only the states I need, which takes up just over 150MB. If I am planning on traveling somewhere, I just break out the CD and load up the map for the trip, then when I return I can go back to the limited map range. I was really looking forward to having GPS available and working more seamlessly on the Tilt, but it looks like hassles are still abound. :(

[Drevil666]

regarding the GPS:
Does anyone of you know wether there is GPS Software that could pull images from google maps?
Like a "show me satellite image of my current location" - button?

I think that would be really cool, but does it already exist?

And secondly, I'm looking for a GPS - Software that runs in the background and logs the GPS coordinates in order to geotag photos from my digicam later. Any recommendations here?



Google maps for mobile works great - I use Co-Pilot Live 6 - tis top jobby

[dalewinterstein]

Try Nav4all.com

[maryjos]

My set up right now allows me to load only the states I need, which takes up just over 150MB. If I am planning on traveling somewhere, I just break out the CD and load up the map for the trip, then when I return I can go back to the limited map range. I was really looking forward to having GPS available and working more seamlessly on the Tilt, but it looks like hassles are still abound. :(
Well, according to the OCN site, you *can* do this with their maps, remove all but the ones you need and use the storage on the card for other stuff. See Question 11 (http://www.oncoursenavigator.com/forum/default.aspx?f=10&m=5314) on the FAQs page.

They have a new version in the works, announcement due in November that is supposed to have text-to-speech capability as well. Maybe if they get enough feedback on the card issue, we can get them to include at least a 4 gig card for the premium version.

[lorelevitt]

For those of you considering GPS, I recommend you consider the new ALK CoPilot Live 7 that's been rewritten for WM6. Its due out on Oct 19th and reviews should be out about the same time.

ALK is used by alot of the commericial industry and Dept. of Defense as well.

They announced the product in Feb but like most software it was late. They are taking phone preorders at 888-872-8768 x1 but v7 is not up on their site yet.

They have press release on it at http://www.alk.com/press/releases/pr_021207.asp

They also have some neat demos of their FREE live tracking web site:

https://live.alk.com/login.aspx?ReturnUrl=%2fDefault.aspx

I've preordered a copy of v7 by phone for myself.

[Deathace]

I Bought my Vario I because of the copilot software only to be disappointed with it, I since have turned to tomtom and its perfect for my uses and it directed me from the UK to eastern italy without any glitches or errors and for that I am more than happy to continue to support it.

Russ

[imasri29]

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[cushcalc]

I can say for sure that iGuidance v4 fixed all problems with WM6. The prog loads in about 3-5 seconds and I've made calls, checked contacts, opened google maps with GPS, turned the phone off and On and it still returns to operation. It has not crashed once. The new version has dropped the maploader and now places the whole US and Canada into a single 1.2gig file so you do need to have a MicroSD card to handle this. I can't confirm push mail but I believe it would work.

There is also Text to speech in v4. To minimize delays, they use the standard canned voice for most of the body of any prompt, then kick-in the text engine just to pronounce the unique road name. It's slightly odd as the accent's are different.

From GPSpassion forum I got a reg hack to force all TTS or No TTS and ended up going back to this hybrid mode as it works best all around as it is nice to have actual street names called out. The all TTS mode did cause some delay at times with long prompts, but that was with Hermes. I haven't bothered to try these options on Kaiser. It you went with all canned voice, it would give minimum system loading.

I tried to find "Tim Hortons" but don't know where to look.

Text to speech is something I really want - our Garmin Nuvi 350 that is installed in my wife's car has that, and it is very helpful.

I have not seen anything that says that Tomtom has text to speech - can anyone comment on that?

The screen shots of iGuidance v4 look great, and it supports UMPC's with VGA, so could also be used on HTC X7501

[rsolomon]

I have not seen anything that says that Tomtom has text to speech - can anyone comment on that?

TomTom6 (at least through 6.030) for PocketPC does *NOT* have the text-to-speech, only the canned "Turn left" voices.

TomTom6 for the GO910 dedicated unit DOES have text-to-speech. I believe the new GO720 and GO920 have it also - but none of that does us PPC folks any good :(

Richard

[kahibbi]

I've been a long time Co-Pilot user and just called today to pre-order version 7 which works with WM6 ... according to them. I asked if version 6 worked with WM6 before I upgraded my 8125 from WM5 to WM6, and they assured me it did. Well, it didn't. So I emailed them and version 7 was supposed to be out in September ... just like the Tilt. Anyway, it's supposed to ship on 10/19.

[RemE]

I was a CoPilot user as well, but tired of their support, tried iGuidance and never looked back, it's much better.

[Desktopflame]

I'm a copilot user and I am using version 6 on my TyTN II wm6 so it does work ok.

[aaronwms]

I have been using Tomtom with Kaiser, and it simply does what I expect - Reliable, Accurate and user friendly. Highly recommended. Besides, if you have any question regarding the Tomtom usage on Kaiser, you simply post a thread in the forum, and you will get responses unexpectedly fast.

[ATVELL]

igo = OCN6 : http://www.oncoursenavigator.com/

[kahibbi]

I'm a copilot user and I am using version 6 on my TyTN II wm6 so it does work ok.

Desktopflame ... how did you get Version 6 to run on your Tytn II? I have a new Tilt and it doesn't work. I contacted Co-Pilot support and asked if the Version 6 would work with a WM6 phone as I was planning to get one. I upgraded the ROM from WM5 to WM6 on my 8125 and it never worked once ... wouldn't even load right. So right after I got the Tilt a week ago, I tried the version 6 software on it and it loaded but never would lauch properly. I now have a 6GB micro card and maybe I should try it again. I have version 7 coming in a couple of weeks ... supposed to be great.

I have actually had good luck with Co-Pilot support.

[olac]

I use Tomtom wich is really great. I have tried to run PathAway but had some difficulties to connect it to the internal GPS. The only way to do it is to start TT6 first and then start PathAway !?! But it works :rolleyes:

[Desktopflame]

Desktopflame ... how did you get Version 6 to run on your Tytn II? I have a new Tilt and it doesn't work. I contacted Co-Pilot support and asked if the Version 6 would work with a WM6 phone as I was planning to get one. I upgraded the ROM from WM5 to WM6 on my 8125 and it never worked once ... wouldn't even load right. So right after I got the Tilt a week ago, I tried the version 6 software on it and it loaded but never would lauch properly. I now have a 6GB micro card and maybe I should try it again. I have version 7 coming in a couple of weeks ... supposed to be great.

I have actually had good luck with Co-Pilot support.

I copied from the original card to my 6gb one then ran copilot.wm5ppc cab from the folder storage card/2577 it installed I soft reset. I did have a problem where it would show the intro screen but not get any further. So then I copied over storage card\COPILOT from my previous card on my wizard and then it worked! I did have to activate it again. But has been working great ever since.

[kahibbi]

Thanks for the info. I'll try loading to my new 6GB card. I had loaded it initially to the phone and it just would do anything though it seemed to load just fine. But version 7 will be here soon enough ... I just hope I don't get lost before then. :)

[swamp2]

This is a "known" issue with iGuidance. I learned the hard way that if you want the program to load quickly, disable your data connection. This was a problem with my x7500 as well. I was ready to load TomTom 6 and found a post related to this issue so I decided to give it a try and it works like a charm!
My question is....has this been fixed in version 4? Thinking of upgrading.

Really liking iGuidance 4 and liking it more than TT6. Have both loaded right now. Better map accuracy and the speaking of road names is fantastic with iG. TT does have iG beat on smoothness of animation though, makes iG look like a decade old. I never had problems with iG loading until now on my first business trip. And even now, although I have experienced the minutes to load phenomena it is not repeatable and does not depend on if I have a current data connection.

Anyone else have the 3mph reading in iG even when going precisely 0 mph?

[cos540]

I have an HP 5915 with TomTom and it has worked great. I am currently trying out AT&T Tilt and have use MS Live Search and Google Maps which have worked fine but are not a full featured GPS program like TomTom and others. If I keep the Titlt I will probably buy TT6 since I have been happy with TT5.

[kahibbi]

I just got the CoPilot Live 7 software and I've tried everything possible to get it to work and nothing. I copied the 2GB microSD contents over to my 6GB card and executed an autorun and nothing. Tried again and launched the .cab file and nothing. Hooked it up to the laptop and installed the software from there saving it to the storage care ... nothing. I uninstalled between each load attempts and absolutely nothing. I don't want to put it on the phone as it runs from their dang SD card, so why won't it run from mine? Has to be some kind of proprietary thing or a bug. I don't want to load it on the main memory as I'm runing out. I've used CoPilot since version 3 and have always saved it onto the card.

If anyone can help, I'd greatly appreciate it.

[PostDeals]

MIOMAP 3.2 works great, I like that better than TOMTOM easier to navigate.

[wing103]

I am using TomTom 6.0 It work great

[emariu]

What are the gps setting ? COM 4 and 4800 baudrate??
this is the native gps port??

[michalopoulosgk]

What are the gps setting ? COM 4 and 4800 baudrate??
this is the native gps port??

These are the settings I am using with GPS Viewer and Tomtom (and Google maps) on HTC Kaiser and they work great!

[Whumpscut]

Hello,

I actually use iGo My Way 2006 Plus on my Kaiser and it works flawlessly.

The built-in GPS was directly found by iGo and the Speed of the program is nearly perfect..

http://www.igomyway.eu/

[kahibbi]

I copied the two foldes on their 2GB card over to my 6GB. I inserted the 6GB card and it immediately wanted to load CoPilot. I went ahead and installed it on the device memory and all is well. By the time I went through a couple of settings, the GPS had a fix on me inside my house. I'll be testing it over the course of the next few days and respond back.

[smeyers863]

i did the same with co-pilot.works great. but crashes closed when I try to set destination using contacts. will you try that and advise? thanks.

[smeyers863]

I copied the two foldes on their 2GB card over to my 6GB. I inserted the 6GB card and it immediately wanted to load CoPilot. I went ahead and installed it on the device memory and all is well. By the time I went through a couple of settings, the GPS had a fix on me inside my house. I'll be testing it over the course of the next few days and respond back.
i did the same with co-pilot.works great. but crashes closed when I try to set destination using contacts. will you try that and advise? thanks.

[Yaron2]

Can you use Copilot 6 or 7 with the integrated GPS on the AT&T Tilt or do you need an external receiver??

[kahibbi]

Can you use Copilot 6 or 7 with the integrated GPS on the AT&T Tilt or do you need an external receiver??

The Tilt's internal GPS is what is being used. No external GPS is required. I couldn't get version 6 to work for me, but 7 at least loads, executes and I locked onto about 6 satellites in my back yard. It found me!

[emariu]

I screwed my Kaiser gps by trying to use map4pda which automatically changed the port in settings for gps. What can I do? Gps not working anymore,even after putting back the old settings

[tubamuirum]

i did the same with co-pilot.works great. but crashes closed when I try to set destination using contacts. will you try that and advise? thanks.

Yes, I have copilot 7 on a T-Mobile HTC Touch, and it crashes out when trying to set destination from contacts too.

[kahibbi]

Yes, I have copilot 7 on a T-Mobile HTC Touch, and it crashes out when trying to set destination from contacts too.

I've been using CoPilot 7 for a while now and I'm pleased overall. There are times when selecting an address from a Contact doesn't work. As a matter fact, too often if you ask me. But I think it might be because of a shortened/abbreviated street type. For example, I had an address in my Contacts that was abbreviated to "... Crt.". CoPilot didn't like that and did not find the address, thus taking me to the address search. When I changed the "Crt." to "Court", it found the address immediately.

The problem I have with CoPilot is that when it can't locate an address from a Contact, it doesn't prepare it's own search from the (1) city, (2) street name, then (3) street address. I have contacted CoPilot about this and they have not responded. Previous versions used to be better at locating addresses from contacts but for some reason, this version is not quite as good yet.

CoPilot isn't crashing on me, it just doesn't find the address from Contacts accasionally.