WM6 for HP iPAQ 4700 (kozhura Edition)

[jamesfengcao]

To VulcanTourist:
After reading the specification difference between SDHC and SD, It seems possible to support SDHC in hx4700 in theory.
Mainly, the difference is addressing mode.
There are two possibilities on how the addressing mode is implemented.
1. If this addressing is implemented as part of firmware of the SD hardware, it seems almost impossible to upgrade that firmware without any special hardware tools( Is there any example to upgrade firmware for components of PDA device? Here I want distinguish the firmware for the PDA as ROM with other firmwares for individual components inside PDA).
2. If the addressing mode is implemented as SD driver of WM6, then SDHC support is possible at least in theory.

In fact, the above is also true for many SD card readers. Some SD card reader can support SDHC after driver upgrading in XP while others need firmware upgrade for the reader.

[kounkhmer2269]

You may first check it through your battery gauges, somewhere in "Settings/System/Batteries", or by tapping on the Battery icon on your "Today" display. There are two of them: the one above for the main batt, and the oen bellow for the NiMH backup button cell batt.

The model is VARTA V6HR, 1.2 Volts 6.2 mAh, rechargeable. Size is 2.1 mm height and 6.7 mm diameter. DO NOT try to replace it by a non rechargeable one, as it will blow up at one point or other ...

Trouble is to find this particular model: it is an HP OEM design, manufactured by VARTA, and damn hard to find so far. A few US sites are reporting it on stock for about $15, but when you confirm order they show "not available at the moment" ... and still ask you $49 to have it sent to Europe (I dond't know where you live)

I'm actually waiting for an answer from VARTA Microbatteries France; they've been telling that one of their resellers "might" have some spares. I'll keep this forum informed when I know more.

Please be so kind to leave me a post, should you finally find a stock, or an equivalent model.

Cheers
J

Thank you very much for your time!

You've been very helpful. Again, thank you!

[ppda]

down load link.. ??? :(

[Chief91]

Kozhura or anyone else;

Everytime I try running your Ref 4 ROM I keep getting an WinRAR error on my desktop saying "WM6_4700_0_7_0_RELEASE4.rar: No files to extract" and when I close that window I get another desktop error message saying "Error reading file: E:\WM6\BootLoader\temp_nbf\" and nothing happens on my 4700. Help!!

Rick (chief91)

[cliffster115]

Kozhura or anyone else;

Everytime I try running your Ref 4 ROM I keep getting an WinRAR error on my desktop saying "WM6_4700_0_7_0_RELEASE4.rar: No files to extract" and when I close that window I get another desktop error message saying "Error reading file: E:\WM6\BootLoader\temp_nbf\" and nothing happens on my 4700. Help!!

Rick (chief91)

Hmm what i did that worked flawlessly atleast for me was first un-rar the WM6_4700_0_7_0_RELEASE4.rar with ZipGenius. I then used the Bootloader program and then directed it to "OS_WM6.nb0" The program flashed the rom successfully and then I did a hard reset after that. A really good tutorial with Bootloader that I used was Chrismrulz's, found here:

ChrismRulz's "WM6 ROM For The Hx4700 Is Here!!!" (http://forum.brighthand.com/showthread.php?t=246529)

Hope this helps :)

[Bandit69]

You may first check it through your battery gauges, somewhere in "Settings/System/Batteries", or by tapping on the Battery icon on your "Today" display. There are two of them: the one above for the main batt, and the oen bellow for the NiMH backup button cell batt.

The model is VARTA V6HR, 1.2 Volts 6.2 mAh, rechargeable. Size is 2.1 mm height and 6.7 mm diameter. DO NOT try to replace it by a non rechargeable one, as it will blow up at one point or other ...

Trouble is to find this particular model: it is an HP OEM design, manufactured by VARTA, and damn hard to find so far. A few US sites are reporting it on stock for about $15, but when you confirm order they show "not available at the moment" ... and still ask you $49 to have it sent to Europe (I dond't know where you live)

I'm actually waiting for an answer from VARTA Microbatteries France; they've been telling that one of their resellers "might" have some spares. I'll keep this forum informed when I know more.

Please be so kind to leave me a post, should you finally find a stock, or an equivalent model.

Cheers
J

If you are looking for a European retailer you might want to check out this one:

http://www.pda-parts.nl/product_info.php?cPath=113_55_64&products_id=354

They charge 18 Euro for the battery and depending from where you are ordering free shipping.

[coruscate]

Just curious, does anyone here have an HP developer or premium subscription for PDA's ? I need an answer to a question, but currently don't have the $250 to pay for that subscription.

Coruscate

[kounkhmer2269]

Hello,
You can also look here for another howto http://paulstravelpictures.com/HP-iPAQ-HX4700-PDA-Backup-Battery-Replacement-Guide/index.html

And for the battery look here: http://www.pdasmart.com/ipaq-battery-center.htm?gclid=CNPZl46pwpECFQ5OQgodSlA2DQ Battery $20.00 and shipping costs $24.00 = total $44.00.

Greetings, Andre.

Everyone has been wonderfully great!

Again, thank you very much for all your assistance!

Thanks,
Anthony

[diamantice]

Can someone pleace help me with this !
I want to upgrade to windows mobile 6, but I don't know how to do it !
I tried many time's ,but with no success.
Can someone pleace tell me how to do it , step by step so I can do it !!

[DocJeff]

I am trying to download the WM6 update, but if I try the new link, I get taken to a different XDA page about their changes to the search page.
If I try the old link I get taken to a page asking for PayPal certificates.
If there is a price for the download, please let me know so I don't pay the Rapidshare's Paypal link unecessarily. Donating is not the problem, I just want to make sure I do it to the right place.
Thanks for the help.
Doc

[pepeluu]

For the newbies (once again):

You will find EVERYTHING you need, including DETAILED instructions courtesy of our hosting friend:

http://wm6.flyingarizona.net

Read, read, read.

And good luck...

[pepeluu]

Hi guys, I am not a deep technician, but it is possible to unpack the hx4700 WM6.1 ROM and rebuild it for hx2700 ?

You may find what you are looking for here, courtesy of our hosting friend:

http://wm6.flyingarizona.net/

Good luck

[Chief91]

Thanks...You are da man!

Hmm what i did that worked flawlessly atleast for me was first un-rar the WM6_4700_0_7_0_RELEASE4.rar with ZipGenius. I then used the Bootloader program and then directed it to "OS_WM6.nb0" The program flashed the rom successfully and then I did a hard reset after that. A really good tutorial with Bootloader that I used was Chrismrulz's, found here:

ChrismRulz's "WM6 ROM For The Hx4700 Is Here!!!" (http://forum.brighthand.com/showthread.php?t=246529)

Hope this helps :)

[okamiren]

If you are looking for a European retailer you might want to check out this one:

http://www.pda-parts.nl/product_info.php?cPath=113_55_64&products_id=354

They charge 18 Euro for the battery and depending from where you are ordering free shipping.

Hi there.

Thanks Bandit69 for the link.

Kounkhmer2269, just in case, this one is in France, and reports 5 to 6 weeks delay : http://www.allbatteries.com/1001Piles/advsearch.aspx?site=1001&lang=FRA&page=ADVANCED

Cheers

[kounkhmer2269]

Hi there.

Thanks Bandit69 for the link.

Kounkhmer2269, just in case, this one is in France, and reports 5 to 6 weeks delay : http://www.allbatteries.com/1001Piles/advsearch.aspx?site=1001&lang=FRA&page=ADVANCED

Cheers

Again, thanks for all your help!

I will go ahead and check the website.


Thanks,
Anthony

[dirlan2001]

I am trying to download the WM6 update, but if I try the new link, I get taken to a different XDA page about their changes to the search page.
If I try the old link I get taken to a page asking for PayPal certificates.
If there is a price for the download, please let me know so I don't pay the Rapidshare's Paypal link unecessarily. Donating is not the problem, I just want to make sure I do it to the right place.
Thanks for the help.
Doc


No need for that.... If you click the old link for WM6 you find yourself on rapidshare. Scroll down till you see a button 'FREE'. Click it and you'll get another page with a countdown running. After the countdown you'll get a list of servers. Choose one (I use Globalcrossing = fastest for me) , scroll down untill you see a 'captcha' ; fill it out and start download.

Before flashing unrar the file to avoid problems with the bootloader and flashprogram.

Cheers

Dirk

[dpdurst]

Or save yourself the headache of rapid share --

WM6 for the PPC Downloads (http://wm6.flyingarizona.net)

[sanjay1951]

A few pages ago there was a brief discussion on the PDAViet 6.1 ROM. While we all wait for Kozhura's version, I would say that this is definitely worth checking out. It has some apps that I don't use so I removed them from the ROM and added the VGAKey keyboard because yes the generic keyboard it comes with is ugly.

I've had it installed for a few days now. Seems stable and filesys.exe has not been a problem yet. Program load response is as good as 6.0 R4 or a bit better. Otherwise, response is good.

Bodes well for what we may see from Kozhura.

Regards.

[MannyMania]

A few pages ago there was a brief discussion on the PDAViet 6.1 ROM. While we all wait for Kozhura's version, I would say that this is definitely worth checking out. It has some apps that I don't use so I removed them from the ROM and added the VGAKey keyboard because yes the generic keyboard it comes with is ugly.

I've had it installed for a few days now. Seems stable and filesys.exe has not been a problem yet. Program load response is as good as 6.0 R4 or a bit better. Otherwise, response is good.

Bodes well for what we may see from Kozhura.

Regards.

100% agree with you.... It's zippy to. Been testing it almost 2 weeks and not a glitch. This just keeps getting better and better. I can't wait for kozhura to do the next release.


Oh Yeah!!!

[pepeluu]

A few pages ago there was a brief discussion on the PDAViet 6.1 ROM. While we all wait for Kozhura's version, I would say that this is definitely worth checking out. It has some apps that I don't use so I removed them from the ROM and added the VGAKey keyboard because yes the generic keyboard it comes with is ugly.

I've had it installed for a few days now. Seems stable and filesys.exe has not been a problem yet. Program load response is as good as 6.0 R4 or a bit better. Otherwise, response is good.

Bodes well for what we may see from Kozhura.

Regards.

I guess you did those changes using a "kitchen" right?

[hedpe]

Again, thanks for all your help!

I will go ahead and check the website.


Thanks,
Anthony

i'm also looking for the Varta battery :\ PPC Techs have it listed on their website, and as soon as you order they send you a backorder message... grrr.

[hedpe]

are there any WM6 alternatives for the HX4700 other than the kozhura build?

[sanjay1951]

I guess you did those changes using a "kitchen" right?

Actually I considered using Vivi's kitchen. It's really good, but ended up just used maimach's tools directly. I just wanted to remove some of the incorporated apps so using the tools seemed simpler for this.

BTW, I just finished a three hour drive using iGO and GPS. That worked well too with the PDAVIET 6.1. I'm completely impressed. Kozhura's 6.0 ROMs were cleaner (no embedded apps) than the PDAVIET ones. So if this 6.1 is any indication, Kozhura's 6.1 should be terrific.

[zwever]

i'm also looking for the Varta battery :\ PPC Techs have it listed on their website, and as soon as you order they send you a backorder message... grrr.

look here : it say's worldwide delivery without charges:) and in stock (did not check it) good luck http://www.batteryupgrade.com/products.php?categorieId=74912138&start=180&amount=30&postStart=210

[VulcanTourist]

Kozhura's 6.0 ROMs were cleaner (no embedded apps) than the PDAVIET ones.

It annoyed the crap out of me that the PDAVIET site seemed to have no documentation with that level of detail. I haven't installed it purely because I didn't know what "else" I might be getting - and what might have been left out - and I couldn't stomach that. Kozhura has been more forthcoming with his ROM releases, and that made a much more favorable impression on me.

Now, regarding this "kitchen" stuff... you mean to say I can tweak or alter an existing ROM to my taste, adding or removing third party apps and tweaking Registry stuff? Is there a readable tutorial on the process? I might consider some of that customizing myself. It would be nice to have a few "mission critical" apps that I simply always must have embedded in the ROM side of the flash, so that clean/hard resets will leave them untouched.

[zoli2006]

It annoyed the crap out of me that the PDAVIET site seemed to have no documentation with that level of detail. I haven't installed it purely because I didn't know what "else" I might be getting - and what might have been left out - and I couldn't stomach that. Kozhura has been more forthcoming with his ROM releases, and that made a much more favorable impression on me.

Now, regarding this "kitchen" stuff... you mean to say I can tweak or alter an existing ROM to my taste, adding or removing third party apps and tweaking Registry stuff? Is there a readable tutorial on the process? I might consider some of that customizing myself. It would be nice to have a few "mission critical" apps that I simply always must have embedded in the ROM side of the flash, so that clean/hard resets will leave them untouched.

here is the guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335422

[pepeluu]

[QUOTE=Now, regarding this "kitchen" stuff... you mean to say I can tweak or alter an existing ROM to my taste, adding or removing third party apps and tweaking Registry stuff? Is there a readable tutorial on the process? I might consider some of that customizing myself. It would be nice to have a few "mission critical" apps that I simply always must have embedded in the ROM side of the flash, so that clean/hard resets will leave them untouched.[/QUOTE]

Now you can start "cooking". If you manage to find a good flavor, please let us know.

Good luck

[VulcanTourist]

here is the guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335422

You know, I'd seen that thread months ago but didn't know what to make of it. I've downloaded it now, but even with the attempts at documenting the kitchen and creating OEM "packages" from scratch, it still looks damned intimidating even to a guy with 25 years of IT experience! I'll have to create my own OEM packages for the things I want to add, like QuickMenu and OzBTWF and XCPUScalar, and that really doesn't look easy at all. Changing the pagepool value and such seems a piece of cake by comparison.

I wonder why vivi didn't pick up spring777's compressed OEM binaries and bring them officially into the kitchen? Those look like a MAJOR achievement, in that they can free up almost 4MB in the ROM alone, without doing anything else. Given that vivi said that there was only about 1MB free by default, that would seem to be a HUGE deal.

[pepeluu]

You know, I'd seen that thread months ago but didn't know what to make of it. I've downloaded it now, but even with the attempts at documenting the kitchen and creating OEM "packages" from scratch, it still looks damned intimidating even to a guy with 25 years of IT experience! I'll have to create my own OEM packages for the things I want to add, like QuickMenu and OzBTWF and XCPUScalar, and that really doesn't look easy at all. Changing the pagepool value and such seems a piece of cake by comparison.

I wonder why vivi didn't pick up spring777's compressed OEM binaries and bring them officially into the kitchen? Those look like a MAJOR achievement, in that they can free up almost 4MB in the ROM alone, without doing anything else. Given that vivi said that there was only about 1MB free by default, that would seem to be a HUGE deal.

Hi,

There are other threads (you can get there from Vivi´s kitchen links) where you can find OEM packages ready made for many, many of the usual (free) apps, like XCPUScalar. Another story is to include in ROM your own "personal" programs.

[Jicker]

I've installed WM6, build 18533, it works almost great. But I've got trouble with my Activesync 4.5 connection. My computer connects with my PDA, I can get there by explorer, but Activesync won't work. Does anybody have the same problem or does anybody even has a solution?:confused:

Edited 28-2-2008
Yes!! It's all working very well. I was working with OneNote 2007 and it asked if it had to install itself also on the HP4700. I agreed and suddenly it al worked very well. At last calendar and contacts were synced.

I've got an HP4700 with 128 MB and WM6 is working great. Thanks mr. Kozhura!

[sanjay1951]

It annoyed the crap out of me that the PDAVIET site seemed to have no documentation with that level of detail. I haven't installed it purely because I didn't know what "else" I might be getting - and what might have been left out - and I couldn't stomach that. Kozhura has been more forthcoming with his ROM releases, and that made a much more favorable impression on me.

Now, regarding this "kitchen" stuff... you mean to say I can tweak or alter an existing ROM to my taste, adding or removing third party apps and tweaking Registry stuff? Is there a readable tutorial on the process? I might consider some of that customizing myself. It would be nice to have a few "mission critical" apps that I simply always must have embedded in the ROM side of the flash, so that clean/hard resets will leave them untouched.

Others have already indicated links to the documentation, so I will just say that Kozhura's ROMS are completely devoid of other apps. This is a good thing. Apps become obsolete as new versions are released. Since you cannot remove an app once it is in the ROM, a clean ROM with nothing else is always preferable to me. Adding the latest releases of apps is not really a problem and I don't like useless files taking up precious space in my PDA.

Vivi embeds the latest Kozhura ROMs in is kitchens. I use his kitchen to tweak Kozhura's ROMs by removing files I don't want. He provides good tips for these to start. The PDAVIET ROM does not have the irrelevant RGU files, but has apps you may not want. Kozhura doesn't add apps, but to now has left in the RGU files. So both ROMS are fairly clean - but different. You can make either one cleaner by removing apps or files using maimach's tools. Overall, to my eye, Kozhura's ROMs look better.

[GSX600FMAN]

Try deleting your partnership or renaming your 4700 and establish a new partnership. But save or keep your 'My Document' for the 4700 folder as it might have valuable info you put on, like recordings etc.
don't pick the contacs or calender to sync until you have successfully sorted out teh problem, saves time. :)

[trucho111]

I can Run this on a Ipaq 6315? Thanks.:)

[VulcanTourist]

I will just say that Kozhura's ROMS are completely devoid of other apps. This is a good thing. Apps become obsolete as new versions are released. Since you cannot remove an app once it is in the ROM, a clean ROM with nothing else is always preferable to me. Adding the latest releases of apps is not really a problem and I don't like useless files taking up precious space in my PDA.

Vivi embeds the latest Kozhura ROMs in is kitchens. I use his kitchen to tweak Kozhura's ROMs by removing files I don't want. He provides good tips for these to start. The PDAVIET ROM does not have the irrelevant RGU files, but has apps you may not want. Kozhura doesn't add apps, but to now has left in the RGU files. So both ROMS are fairly clean - but different. You can make either one cleaner by removing apps or files using maimach's tools. Overall, to my eye, Kozhura's ROMs look better.

I'm not that fond of "integrated" solutions (and stereos), but there are a few things I thought I might like to embed nonetheless, because newer versions of them that predate a new ROM release aren't important. After all, many of the people here have been flashing and re-flashing repeatedly (I'm on the lighter end of that spectrum), so is what is or isn't on the ROM side of the partition really all that significant in terms of space? I plan to slow down my ROM re-flashings, so the extra bit of work to get a few critical things in there makes more sense. By the time those critical things have changed enough to warrant upgrading them, I should be ready for a new ROM anyway. I haven't explained this very well, but I hope the logic is obvious enough.

[VulcanTourist]

I can Run this on a Ipaq 6315?

Yes. It will pimp your handheld.

[dirlan2001]

I can Run this on a Ipaq 6315? Thanks.:)



Absolutely NOT.... You would burn up your phone-radio, as the hx4700 is not a phone. And flashing would destroy all your previous settings, including the radio's. I guess you're stuck at WM2003 SE with this baby.

Dirk

[Durex]

Hi everyone,

This is my first post to the forum! Firstly, a big thank to Kozhura for reviving our hx4700's after HP's debacle of WM5! I wish to make a few comments on the battery drain issue, as that is something I'm experiencing.

I recently got my hx4700 repaired by HP (in the USA, the motherboard was replaced) and flashed it with the WM6 ROM (release 4, by Kozhura). I didn't install any applications, and left the PDA in the cradle, but turned off overnight. The next morning, it reported a flat battery! When turned on, it would last about 2 seconds, before shutting itself off. If I turned it on and put it in the cradle, it would stay on. The Power screen showed the main battery at 0%, "AC charging" and the orange LED would flash. The charging indicator, showing 0%, never increased. After 1-2 minutes, the orange LED would stay on.

As I'd read about battery drain issues, I decided to try the PDAVIET ROM. I experienced the same problem. As a solution, I returned to the WM2003SE ROM from HP. Immediately, the main battery reported as being fully charged! And the unit retained it's charge overnight, even out of the cradle.

Conclusions: The battery is not actually flat as reported by WM6. The fact that the Power screen shows 0% battery charge, and "AC charging" seems to be a software problem. As mentioned above, the orange LED flashes for 1-2 minutes, then stays on. It appears the hardware correctly determines that the battery is charged, but the software reports it as being 0%, and shuts the unit down.

The problem I am writing about may be different to that experienced by others. If it is not, though, the battery-drain problems may have nothing to do with apps installed on the device.

I wonder whether the battery itself may be responsible for reporting incorrect charge status to WM6. The battery I am using is a third-party (non-HP) battery. Are other users with battery-drain problems using HP batteries, or other brands?

At least in my case, it appears the battery drain is caused by a WM6 bug, or is battery related.

Comments?

Best!

[VulcanTourist]

I can't point you to the exact page of this thread, but other people have experienced and reported this problem, where the battery monitoring gets out of whack because of a new ROM. The problem was solved, I recall, but I don't remember the solution clearly; I think it had something to do with clearing some values in the Registry. I didn't experience the problem, even though I'm using the exact same ROM. Search this thread and you'll find those discussions.

[GSX600FMAN]

I have had no problems at all with the battery draining excessively. I have the original HP batteries and a 'made in China 3.6A extended (bulky) battery, if we are likely to be using excessively all day. We have 1 still on version 3 & 2 running WM6 v4. When the 6.1 is released by 'K' one of them will be used for that. While I still have a working PDA for navigation etc. I have SPB pocket plus (new upgrade) which really closes programs when you tap 'X', not just minimise them. :)

[trucho111]

Thanks for the answer. i must sell it. Is definitly old. Thanks a lot dirlan 2001.

[naboo]

Hi everyone,

This is my first post to the forum! Firstly, a big thank to Kozhura for reviving our hx4700's after HP's debacle of WM5! I wish to make a few comments on the battery drain issue, as that is something I'm experiencing.

I recently got my hx4700 repaired by HP (in the USA, the motherboard was replaced) and flashed it with the WM6 ROM (release 4, by Kozhura). I didn't install any applications, and left the PDA in the cradle, but turned off overnight. The next morning, it reported a flat battery! When turned on, it would last about 2 seconds, before shutting itself off. If I turned it on and put it in the cradle, it would stay on. The Power screen showed the main battery at 0%, "AC charging" and the orange LED would flash. The charging indicator, showing 0%, never increased. After 1-2 minutes, the orange LED would stay on.

As I'd read about battery drain issues, I decided to try the PDAVIET ROM. I experienced the same problem. As a solution, I returned to the WM2003SE ROM from HP. Immediately, the main battery reported as being fully charged! And the unit retained it's charge overnight, even out of the cradle.

Conclusions: The battery is not actually flat as reported by WM6. The fact that the Power screen shows 0% battery charge, and "AC charging" seems to be a software problem. As mentioned above, the orange LED flashes for 1-2 minutes, then stays on. It appears the hardware correctly determines that the battery is charged, but the software reports it as being 0%, and shuts the unit down.

The problem I am writing about may be different to that experienced by others. If it is not, though, the battery-drain problems may have nothing to do with apps installed on the device.

I wonder whether the battery itself may be responsible for reporting incorrect charge status to WM6. The battery I am using is a third-party (non-HP) battery. Are other users with battery-drain problems using HP batteries, or other brands?

At least in my case, it appears the battery drain is caused by a WM6 bug, or is battery related.

Comments?

Best!


same thing was happenning to my hx4700 with rel4, it used to freeze at least once a day
now I switched to PDAVIET 6.1 and it looks a lot better right now, I've experienced two freezes till now (within 2 weeks or so)

and I confirm that it's a software problem rather than a hardware

Hopefully it will bee fixed soon. The device is simply unreliable in current state.

Regards
Naboo

[Philis]

@ Durex (:D , what's in a name)
I'm now using latest PDAVIET (6.1) and have also noticed (same as with Kozhoura R4) batterydrain :(
In the past I have made all the fixes & trics to reduce this issue ... but without a final good result.
Yesterday full charge the HX4700, this morning 6% power left.
Have 2 batteries , 1 original HP and 1 chinese (bought on ebay) ... both 1800mAh ... same battery drain.
So It has nothing to made with brand you use.
With other words , I can not trust WM6x ... sometimes a week without issue , and then 2 days issue ... :rolleyes:
But still it's a great feeling to use WM6x ... when it works, the HX4700 is a fast machine with a fantastic sreen.

[dirlan2001]

@ Durex (:D , what's in a name)
I'm now using latest PDAVIET (6.1) and have also noticed (same as with Kozhoura R4) batterydrain :(
In the past I have made all the fixes & trics to reduce this issue ... but without a final good result.
Yesterday full charge the HX4700, this morning 6% power left.
Have 2 batteries , 1 original HP and 1 chinese (bought on ebay) ... both 1800mAh ... same battery drain.
So It has nothing to made with brand you use.
With other words , I can not trust WM6x ... sometimes a week without issue , and then 2 days issue ... :rolleyes:
But still it's a great feeling to use WM6x ... when it works, the HX4700 is a fast machine with a fantastic sreen.


Hi all,


Go find tMan 0.9.9 at http://pda.jasnapaka.com/tman/ and install it.

After recharging your device and before you take it out of the craddle, use this little gem to close all background tasks, close all running tasks and then exit the program.
Take the device out of the craddle and and push the on/off button ....:D

I do this every day before going to sleep, and in the morning I've no batterydrain....

Cheers

Dirk

[Philis]

Hi all,


Go find tMan 0.9.9 at http://pda.jasnapaka.com/tman/ and install it.

After recharging your device and before you take it out of the craddle, use this little gem to close all background tasks, close all running tasks and then exit the program.
Take the device out of the craddle and and push the on/off button ....:D

I do this every day before going to sleep, and in the morning I've no batterydrain....

Cheers

Dirk
Hi Dirk ... "After recharging your device and before you take it out of the craddle" ... I didn't know this was important.
And what about activesync ... it's still open when your device is in the craddle (?).

[Philis]

Go find tMan 0.9.9 at http://pda.jasnapaka.com/tman/ and install it.

Installation internal or Sd ?
Compatible with the X-close provide by pdaviet? or should that X-close be romoved (?).

[dirlan2001]

Hi Dirk ... "After recharging your device and before you take it out of the craddle" ... I didn't know this was important.
And what about activesync ... it's still open when your device is in the craddle (?).


If you use tMan to close all background and running tasks on the device, it should be no problem, provided you have ActiveSync (on the PC) told NOT to connect automaticaly.

As I don't need to sync every 5 minutes, I have also changed some settings in the registry of the device.
HKCU\ControlPanel\Comm\ AutoCnct -----> changed in '0 (0x0)'

HKCU\Software\Microsoft\ActiveSync\DisconnectWhenD one ----> '1 (0x1)'


Installation internal or Sd ?
Compatible with the X-close provide by pdaviet? or should that X-close be romoved (?).

I don't know the PDAViet nor that 'X-close' app ..... Can't say anything on it, but I guess it's doing more or less the same things : check for running programs and kicking them out :D

Let me know if it works out right

Dirk

[Cerdito]

I want to try the Wm6.1 version (latest) of pdaviet but I only could download the first part, is there anybody who knows were I can find the second part??

[dirlan2001]

I want to try the Wm6.1 version (latest) of pdaviet but I only could download the first part, is there anybody who knows were I can find the second part??


You should click on the 'Thank You' button which will release the download .... There's a thread with the exact complete instructions on how to get it. Use Search pls :D

[sanjay1951]

Here is the PDAVIET 6.1 ROM which I've modified a bit. All applications I have work fine with this including GPS.

Changes I made were:
1. Removed all preinstalled apps - notepad, usb_hdd, psXshut, etc.
2. Removed the "flower" and "waterfall" images.
3. Removed the non-VGA green skin (tsk) file.
3. Alarm files are now all WAV instead of WMA - so you can use them all.
4. Re-organized the initflashfile.dat a bit for readability.

Sorry, I don't know how to change the bootup screen or the default keyboard. Maybe someone else can improve this further.

I have not experienced the battery problems that have been reported here so this will not address those.

Regards.

link: http://rapidshare.com/files/92639081/pdav61clean.zip.html

[Cerdito]

You should click on the 'Thank You' button which will release the download .... There's a thread with the exact complete instructions on how to get it. Use Search pls :D

Thanks for quick reply, i have installed the pdaviet 6.1 now and its working fine and fast.:):)

[cliffster115]

Here is the PDAVIET 6.1 ROM which I've modified a bit. All applications I have work fine with this including GPS.

Changes I made were:
1. Removed all preinstalled apps - notepad, usb_hdd, psXshut, etc.
2. Removed the "flower" and "waterfall" images.
3. Removed the non-VGA green skin (tsk) file.
3. Alarm files are now all WAV instead of WMA - so you can use them all.
4. Re-organized the initflashfile.dat a bit for readability.

Sorry, I don't know how to change the bootup screen or the default keyboard. Maybe someone else can improve this further.

I have not experienced the battery problems that have been reported here so this will not address those.

Regards.

link: http://rapidshare.com/files/92639081/pdav61clean.zip.html

Thanks for this share, and the modifications! Gonna try this out, but I'm still patiently waiting to see what Kozhura can do with WM6.1! :D

[Philis]

Thanks for this share, and the modifications! Gonna try this out, but I'm still patiently waiting to see what Kozhura can do with WM6.1! :D
Idem dito ... ;)
btw, have also changed the PP to 0 Mb ...

[pepeluu]

Here is the PDAVIET 6.1 ROM which I've modified a bit. All applications I have work fine with this including GPS.

Changes I made were:
1. Removed all preinstalled apps - notepad, usb_hdd, psXshut, etc.
2. Removed the "flower" and "waterfall" images.
3. Removed the non-VGA green skin (tsk) file.
3. Alarm files are now all WAV instead of WMA - so you can use them all.
4. Re-organized the initflashfile.dat a bit for readability.

Sorry, I don't know how to change the bootup screen or the default keyboard. Maybe someone else can improve this further.

I have not experienced the battery problems that have been reported here so this will not address those.

Regards.

link: http://rapidshare.com/files/92639081/pdav61clean.zip.html

Thanks sanjay.

[hedpe]

look here : it say's worldwide delivery without charges:) and in stock (did not check it) good luck http://www.batteryupgrade.com/products.php?categorieId=74912138&start=180&amount=30&postStart=210

sorry, i meant the varta backup battery

[vimesUK]

DITTO: Thanks Sanjay for your time and effort in sharing your work with us :)

[FrankKF]

Here is the PDAVIET 6.1 ROM which I've modified a bit. All applications I have work fine with this including GPS.

Changes I made were:
1. Removed all preinstalled apps - notepad, usb_hdd, psXshut, etc.
2. Removed the "flower" and "waterfall" images.
3. Removed the non-VGA green skin (tsk) file.
3. Alarm files are now all WAV instead of WMA - so you can use them all.
4. Re-organized the initflashfile.dat a bit for readability.

Sorry, I don't know how to change the bootup screen or the default keyboard. Maybe someone else can improve this further.

I have not experienced the battery problems that have been reported here so this will not address those.

Regards.

link: http://rapidshare.com/files/92639081/pdav61clean.zip.html


Sanjay, what is the PagePool size of your package? Is mapping SW one of your applications on your 4705? If so, is there a relation between PagePool size and mapcut size as for speed of loading and responsiveness? I might be drifting off your central theme here, but the questions are real.

[sanjay1951]

You're welcome all. Hope you find this useful. It works well for me. As we wait for Kozhura, it's worth noting that PhamQuang has done a good job with this ROM.

It seems that this ROM is based on a non-VGA HTC device. Hence why the default keyboard is not pretty on the 4700. I use VGAkey anyway though so it's not an issue, but if anyone knows how to change the default keyboard or the boot screen, I would appreciate the information. Would be happy to redo this.

Regards.

[sanjay1951]

Sanjay, what is the PagePool size of your package? Is mapping SW one of your applications on your 4705? If so, is there a relation between PagePool size and mapcut size as for speed of loading and responsiveness? I might be drifting off your central theme here, but the questions are real.

I did not change the pagepool on this ROM and frankly did not check it before making my changes. I believe PDAVIET ROMs have 8mb, but I'm not sure. Having used this now for two weeks, I know that it is definitely faster for me than 6.0. I use iGo as my GPS navigation software. It is the only mapping application I have.

[1oll2]

How can I get the PDAVIET 6.1 ROM on my HX 4700? With mtty11a boot loader does not, he grouses that the file is too big. What can I do?

Ps Sorry for my English

[pepeluu]

I did not change the pagepool on this ROM and frankly did not check it before making my changes. I believe PDAVIET ROMs have 8mb, but I'm not sure. Having used this now for two weeks, I know that it is definitely faster for me than 6.0. I use iGo as my GPS navigation software. It is the only mapping application I have.

PDAViet PagePool is 8MB. I changed to 0MB (on a 128 MB RAM HX4700) and it runs OK.

There is one thing about battery time I want to add to the big mess in that area. I have another HX4700 which was left with WM 2003. It has been in a drawer for probably two months straight and when I took it out (I was thinking of flashing your ROM) the battery was at 100% charge!!! just as it was when I confined it. Why is it not possible to get that from a WM5 or WM6 ROM?

[sanjay1951]

PDAViet PagePool is 8MB. I changed to 0MB (on a 128 MB RAM HX4700) and it runs OK.

There is one thing about battery time I want to add to the big mess in that area. I have another HX4700 which was left with WM 2003. It has been in a drawer for probably two months straight and when I took it out (I was thinking of flashing your ROM) the battery was at 100% charge!!! just as it was when I confined it. Why is it not possible to get that from a WM5 or WM6 ROM?

Pepeluu,
You must have excellent batteries! Mine never lasted any longer with WM2003. However, that's perhaps because I was so worried always about losing data that I frequently charged them.

I saw that you had changed the pagepool to 0mb, but also know that this had been problematic for others. Have you done a benchmark test with different sizes of pagepools? Would be good to see imperical numbers for this with WM6.1 to see what actually is best. I used 8mb for WM5 and found it better than the 4.8MB standard but WM6 was fast enough so I let it be at 4.8.

Regards.

[VulcanTourist]

I have another HX4700 which was left with WM 2003. It has been in a drawer for probably two months....

If I had a device that was so unimportant to me that I could afford to leave it rotting in a drawer for months, but which might still be useful to many people, I'd consider giving it to someone who could put it to good use. There's the obvious eBay, not to mention Craigslist and thousands of "freecycling" groups (freecycle.org). In the local freecycling groups in this area, people routinely give away things worth at least as much as a used hx4700. I freecycle what I have that I don't need, but that doesn't include my hx4700 because it's all I've got or will have for quite a while.

Perhaps Kozhura could use such spare hx4700s sitting in drawers. Or someone even less fortunate than he.

[pepeluu]

I saw that you had changed the pagepool to 0mb, but also know that this had been problematic for others. Have you done a benchmark test with different sizes of pagepools? Would be good to see imperical numbers for this with WM6.1 to see what actually is best. I used 8mb for WM5 and found it better than the 4.8MB standard but WM6 was fast enough so I let it be at 4.8.Regards.

Hello Sanjay:

Unfortunately I do no do any benchmarking (I would not know how to). All my assessments are done by feeling only. On that base, I have realized that the larger the pagepool the faster the system. As I am using a 128 MB machine, I can afford to give a large chunk of memory to the pagepool. Since I read in the thread about the possibility to set the pagepool to 0 (the figure is misleading, as it actually means assigning the whole memory to the pagepool) I decided to try and feel it ran faster. "I feel" I say.

I should add I also use a 6MB Ramdisk for the same reason of having RAM to spare. All the temp files go there and, if I have to tell, I have NEVER seen the filesys kicking in in that machine.

Regards, and thanks again for sharing your efforts with us.

[pepeluu]

If I had a device that was so unimportant to me that I could afford to leave it rotting in a drawer for months, but which might still be useful to many people, I'd consider giving it to someone who could put it to good use. There's the obvious eBay, not to mention Craigslist and thousands of "freecycling" groups (freecycle.org). In the local freecycling groups in this area, people routinely give away things worth at least as much as a used hx4700. I freecycle what I have that I don't need, but that doesn't include my hx4700 because it's all I've got or will have for quite a while.

Perhaps Kozhura could use such spare hx4700s sitting in drawers. Or someone even less fortunate than he.

Dear Vulcan:

I really do not have the time or the inclination to explain to you why I have not two, but three HX4700. From your past behavior I assume that people in Vulcano are bad tempered, like the Klingons, but while you are among us as a tourist, please concentrate in showing more respect for regular humans.

And keep your nose, if Vulcans have one, in your own stuff.

[danshane]

If I had a device that was so unimportant to me that I could afford to leave it rotting in a drawer for months, but which might still be useful to many people, I'd consider giving it to someone who could put it to good use.

VulcanTourist:

Some folks like to have spares in case of failure. I'll bet Kozhura wished he had one. I'm glad I did when my main 4700 was destroyed by a falling loudspeaker.

-- Dan --

[VulcanTourist]

And keep your nose, if Vulcans have one, in your own stuff.

You made it "my stuff" the instant you mentioned it here. As one lawyer would tell the judge in court, in response to an objection by the other during cross-examination, "Your Honor, his client opened the door by his own prior testimony."

Having mentioned it and been challenged about it, whether you choose to defend the choice and behavior is "your stuff". You might have a reason that would make me feel foolish and presumptuous and necessitate an apology, but I haven't heard it. Tight-lipped defensiveness usually suggests otherwise.

And Dan: if people were more charitable with the excess they have beyond their actual need, folks like Kozhura wouldn't have to worry about hoarding a spare, would they? I suggest you check out the freecycling concept.

[e-Tiggy]

He tried to say "None of your business" in the polite way and he has a point.
Lately half of the posts in this thread are you engaging one sided fights gratuitously with anyone who dares to send a message on any subject.
For god's sake please shut up cause you irritate a lot of people with your childish behaviour and last but not least flood the thread with pointless messages.
Thanks!

[VulcanTourist]

He tried to say "None of your business" in the polite way and he has a point. Lately half of the posts in this thread are you engaging one sided fights gratuitously with anyone who dares to send a message on any subject. For god's sake please shut up cause you irritate a lot of people with your childish behaviour and last but not least flood the thread with pointless messages.

No, he didn't have a point. There is no such thing as "none of my business" once something is volunteered. Further, when I challenge people it's never gratuitous. There is always reason behind it, whether you agree with it or not. If being challenged or seeing other people challenged irritates you, I'd suggest that is the problem. You bandy about emotional buzzwords like childish, gratuitous, and pointless like little swords intended to wound.

[sanjay1951]

No, he didn't have a point. There is no such thing as "none of my business" once something is volunteered. Further, when I challenge people it's never gratuitous. There is always reason behind it, whether you agree with it or not. If being challenged or seeing other people challenged irritates you, I'd suggest that is the problem. You bandy about emotional buzzwords like childish, gratuitous, and pointless like little swords intended to wound.

VulcanTourist,

I think it is high time that you chilled and stopped your your useless, opinionated, venomous banterings. Your past few posts have been abusive and have not added any value to this excellent forum. I agree, people including me have treated you to now with some respect but you seem to only be interested in creating conflict. For someone that claims to have over 20 years of IT experience, I would have hoped that by now you would have learned the meaning of client respect. I wonder how you have survived. Clearly, you have a problem that you need to deal with. But no-one else on this forum has to put up with it. So back off.

Rest,

Let's just please try to ignore this guy and focus on the constructive dialogues here.

Regards.

[naboo]

Hello,

can anyone send me black theme (.tsk file + background) from rev.4? Currently I'm using PDAVIET 6.1 and don't want't flash my iPAQ again to only get the file.
TIA

Naboo

[danshane]

And Dan: if people were more charitable with the excess they have beyond their actual need, folks like Kozhura wouldn't have to worry about hoarding a spare, would they? I suggest you check out the freecycling concept.


I never said you (or anyone else) shouldn't donate your equipment when your heart moves you to do so; I only answered your question about why some users feel they need to have more than one usable device on hand.

It is up to each individual's conscience what he chooses to do with his hard-earned cash and the goodies it gets him. It is not my place (or yours) to tell somebody he is a hoarder or miser because he believes in backup systems.

But if you really feel this attitude is unacceptable how about digging out that spare tire in the trunk of your car and giving it to someone you see on the side of the road with a flat? I have actually done that. I have also given older model iPAQs to friends as gifts rather than see them go unused. That was my choice. It is also my choice to hold onto my spare 4700 in case more loudspeakers come falling out of the sky.

-- Dan --

[Cerdito]

Hello,

can anyone send me black theme (.tsk file + background) from rev.4? Currently I'm using PDAVIET 6.1 and don't want't flash my iPAQ again to only get the file.
TIA

Naboo

You can find it here:
http://www.pocketpcfreeware.mobi/download-vista-black-today-skin.html
succes

[hiaig]

Here is the PDAVIET 6.1 ROM which I've modified a bit. All applications I have work fine with this including GPS.

Changes I made were:
1. Removed all preinstalled apps - notepad, usb_hdd, psXshut, etc.
2. Removed the "flower" and "waterfall" images.
3. Removed the non-VGA green skin (tsk) file.
3. Alarm files are now all WAV instead of WMA - so you can use them all.
4. Re-organized the initflashfile.dat a bit for readability.

Sorry, I don't know how to change the bootup screen or the default keyboard. Maybe someone else can improve this further.

I have not experienced the battery problems that have been reported here so this will not address those.

Regards.

link: http://rapidshare.com/files/92639081/pdav61clean.zip.html

Hi Sanjay1951:

Can you let me know what tool you used to extract the PDAViet's nk.nbf file? I have done a search and tried some of the tools in this forum without any success.

Thanks.

[naboo]

You can find it here:
http://www.pocketpcfreeware.mobi/download-vista-black-today-skin.html
succes

Many thanks Cerdito. That's what I meant :)

Naboo

[sanjay1951]

Hi Sanjay1951:

Can you let me know what tool you used to extract the PDAViet's nk.nbf file? I have done a search and tried some of the tools in this forum without any success.

Thanks.

Hiaig,

I used mamaich's tools from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=249836

Yes, I know this says WM5, but the tools work for WM6 as well since 6 is based on 5. BTW, if you discover how to change either the boot screen or the default keyboard, please let us know!

Good luck.

[dpdurst]

Here is the PDAVIET 6.1 ROM which I've modified a bit. All applications I have work fine with this including GPS.

Changes I made were:
1. Removed all preinstalled apps - notepad, usb_hdd, psXshut, etc.
2. Removed the "flower" and "waterfall" images.
3. Removed the non-VGA green skin (tsk) file.
3. Alarm files are now all WAV instead of WMA - so you can use them all.
4. Re-organized the initflashfile.dat a bit for readability.

Sorry, I don't know how to change the bootup screen or the default keyboard. Maybe someone else can improve this further.

I have not experienced the battery problems that have been reported here so this will not address those.

Regards.

link: http://rapidshare.com/files/92639081/pdav61clean.zip.html

Sanjay, thanks for the rom, do you mind if I post this to my site that way others don't have to deal with the rapidshare?

[sanjay1951]

Sanjay, thanks for the rom, do you mind if I post this to my site that way others don't have to deal with the rapidshare?

Absolutely, feel free to post it. However, I should let you know that am making made some progress in changing the non-VGA splash screen. So I should have a revision within a day. It will be a visual improvement but I still don't know how to change the default keyboard. Will keep searching for that.

Regards.

[dpdurst]

Absolutely, feel free to post it. However, I should let you know that am making made some progress in changing the non-VGA splash screen. So I should have a revision within a day. It will be a visual improvement but I still don't know how to change the default keyboard. Will keep searching for that.

Regards.

No problem just let me know when updates show up and I'll post them up on the site. Thanks appreciate it. I hope to get this loaded soon to my 4700 soon. Should have the link up on the page tomorrow sometime. :)

[sanjay1951]

I was successful in changing the boot splash on the PDAVIET Rom. So here is a slight revision to the PDAVIET 6.1 ROM I changed for my use and for which I provided a link earlier. Feel free to try this. This looks a bit nicer on startup, but I have still been unsuccessful in changing the default keyboard. However, as I mentioned before, VGAKey is a good alternative for that.

Link to PDAVIET 6.1 clean with changed splash:

http://rapidshare.com/files/93342713/pv61splash.zip.html

DPDURST: feel free to post this to your site for others to download outside of rapidshare. Sorry, I don't have another option for that.

Regards.

[Huck33]

Thanks Sanjay

[sofene]

No problem just let me know when updates show up and I'll post them up on the site. Thanks appreciate it. I hope to get this loaded soon to my 4700 soon. Should have the link up on the page tomorrow sometime. :)

Link to your site?

[Deorum]

Many thanks Cerdito. That's what I meant :)

Naboo

Hy, I installed Windows Vista Ultimate theme too but when I use the VGA which is for the hx4700 screen size, I don't see the whole screen. I have to use the QVGA file. Anybody?

[algasystems]

I was successful in changing the boot splash on the PDAVIET Rom. So here is a slight revision to the PDAVIET 6.1 ROM I changed for my use and for which I provided a link earlier. Feel free to try this. This looks a bit nicer on startup, but I have still been unsuccessful in changing the default keyboard. However, as I mentioned before, VGAKey is a good alternative for that.
Regards.

Hi! To edit the keyboard skin, you have to edit msim.192.dll with an utility like ResEdit (http://www.resedit.net/), and then sign it (you can use adexx Multiple File Signer (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=306982)) :)
Here (http://rapidshare.com/files/93376034/msim.192.dll.zip.html) there is a dll already restored to the original skin and signed :D

BTW, how did you succeeded in restoring the boot splash?
I spent three hours yesterday without success :(

Bye,
bano

[Aur0r]

sanjay1951, thank for you work.
but i found bug in your last ROM here: hard buttons don't work. at all. can you solve this problem, please.

[sanjay1951]

Hi! To edit the keyboard skin, you have to edit msim.192.dll with an utility like ResEdit (http://www.resedit.net/), and then sign it (you can use adexx Multiple File Signer (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=306982)) :)
Here (http://rapidshare.com/files/93376034/msim.192.dll.zip.html) there is a dll already restored to the original skin and signed :D

BTW, how did you succeeded in restoring the boot splash?
I spent three hours yesterday without success :(

Bye,
bano

Hey Wow! Thanks. I will try that tonight. Appreciate the help.

To change the boot screen, I followed Chamine's advice. I found it actually a long way back in this thread around page 45. He describes the steps. I edited the welcomhead.192.9ng file that I think is what kozhura's roms use to come up with the new splash. Take a look at Chamine's steps. Apparently you can add ANY image you like as your splash screen.

Good luck.

[sanjay1951]

Link to your site?

Please ignore this response...insufficient caffeine in the morning.

[sanjay1951]

sanjay1951, thank for you work.
but i found bug in your last ROM here: hard buttons don't work. at all. can you solve this problem, please.

Aur0r, they seem to be working fine for me so I don't know where to look for a fix.

I also want to again restate that this is not my ROM. This was developed by PhamQuang and is the PDAVIET version 6.1 ROM. I have only tweaked it for my own use and shared it as my contribution to this community. I can continue to make this as Kozhura like as possible with the help of others but sadly, I'm not Kozhura and am also waiting for his new version.:)

Regards.

[Braggus]

Hi there,

I like to flash to "pdaviet61_splash" but "mtta11y" doesn't seem to work with *.nbf files. It asks for an absolete nb0 file. How can i flash to pdaviet61_splash?

Best regards,

Braggaar

[rpaden]

i flashed my 4700 to the pdaviet61 rom and still i cannot install certificates. Has anybody been able to install certificates?

[sanjay1951]

Hi there,

I like to flash to "pdaviet61_splash" but "mtta11y" doesn't seem to work with *.nbf files. It asks for an absolete nb0 file. How can i flash to pdaviet61_splash?

Best regards,

Braggaar

The bootloader from Chrismrulz is the best method I know. Works every time.
http://forum.brighthand.com/showthread.php?t=246529

[pepeluu]

The bootloader from Chrismrulz is the best method I know. Works every time.
http://forum.brighthand.com/showthread.php?t=246529

Thanks for the revision. Ah! and congratulations. Your last message was number 100.

[naboo]

Hy, I installed Windows Vista Ultimate theme too but when I use the VGA which is for the hx4700 screen size, I don't see the whole screen. I have to use the QVGA file. Anybody?

yea, same here :(

[Braggus]

The bootloader from Chrismrulz is the best method I know. Works every time.
http://forum.brighthand.com/showthread.php?t=246529
Thanx Sanjai. Stupid me, i flashed before with bootloader and i just forgot it.
It's running right now.

Best regards,

Braggaar

[gregy74]

sanjay1951, thank for you work.
but i found bug in your last ROM here: hard buttons don't work. at all. can you solve this problem, please.


Same here. Also power button not working.

[Deorum]

yea, same here :(

I will try to post the original.

[Braggus]

Same here, no power button, no calendar, contacts, email or itask button.

Going back to Rev 4.

[Aur0r]

I reflashed hx4700 from sanjay ROM to PDAviet through bug with hard buttons.
but without bootloader (mytty dosn't want to flash device by pdaviet 6.1 & sanjay roms). i use official update and change wm5 rom to other.

[ybenedictine]

Please forgive me, as I am very new to this discussion. However, I must say many thanks for the information and time spent thus far.

I recently flashed my hx4700 with the latest ROM and am having no luck getting it to sync with my PC using Activesync 4.5.

Would someone be kind enough to tell me what I am doing wrong?

Thank you.

[GSX600FMAN]

Can you be clear about what ROM when you say latest ROM. people are now talking about the other ROM from another site (Pdavant or something like that) yet this is Kozhura thread where the latest ROM 6.1 has been pulled for redevelopment on the 6 Feb, as it turns your 4700 into a paperweight. So the last working ROM is WM6v4. I suspect you might be talking about the WM6.1 from the other site what people are talking about here. There will be confusion between the 2 ROM's as this goes on. Maybe a new thread should be started for the other or for a hybrid site? :)

[sanjay1951]

Same here, no power button, no calendar, contacts, email or itask button.

Going back to Rev 4.

Curious that it seems to work for some and others have this problem. It has been problem free for me. I used BootloaderGUI to load it, hard reset twice then reset once to start it.

Tonight I will try to change the default keyboard and if I am successful, will share the new version. You can try that. If it doesn't work, I suppose it would be best to wait for Kozhura's change.

A question however, if you tried the version without the splash change, did it have the same problem with buttons?

Regards.

[sanjay1951]

Can you be clear about what ROM when you say latest ROM. people are now talking about the other ROM from another site (Pdavant or something like that) yet this is Kozhura thread where the latest ROM 6.1 has been pulled for redevelopment on the 6 Feb, as it turns your 4700 into a paperweight. So the last working ROM is WM6v4. I suspect you might be talking about the WM6.1 from the other site what people are talking about here. There will be confusion between the 2 ROM's as this goes on. Maybe a new thread should be started for the other or for a hybrid site? :)

I agree GSX600FMAN. That makes a lot of sense. If I am able to change the keyboard on this PDAVIET 6.1 variation, I will post a link in a new thread.

[giustip]

Hi all,
I need help: no link to download the 6.1 ROM for HX4700.
Any idea?

Many Thanks

[goize]

me too
cannt find link to download
how i do?
many thanks

[sanjay1951]

Success at last!! With the grateful assistance from member algasystems, I was able to replace the default keyboard in the wonderful PDAVIET wm6.1 rom with the standard keyboard from 6.0. Thank you algasystems.

I have started a new thread at: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1949979#post1949979 for this variation. I will keep this until Kozhura releases his next version, but this is as Kozhura-like as I know how to make it. The changes are:

1. All pre-installed apps removed
2. Boot splash replaced with the standard one from WM6
3. Restored the correct keyboard

In the new thread, I have attached images that show the new (old good one) keyboard, the version screen, and storage right after installation.

The PDAVIET ROM has 8MB pagepool. And yes, clearly the hardware buttons work for me. Bluetooth pairs to my laptop and syncs.

Please feel free to use this and improve it. I hope this works for you.:)

Regards.

[dpdurst]

Link to your site?

http://wm6.flyingarizona.net

6.1 is not posted yet, had to spent last night with wife for anniversary so tonight after work will get link posted up with the latest 6.1 from Sanjay.

[GSX600FMAN]

Thankyou Sanjay & Dpudurst for the new thead. I will be reading both. a question for these that had or have the hardware buttons not working, how do you get back into bootloader mode? Or is it just that pressing teh button does nnot launch the expected application. What happens if you do the 'selftest' (system) when you get to press the buttons? ::confused:

[cliffster115]

Success at last!! With the grateful assistance from member algasystems, I was able to replace the default keyboard in the wonderful PDAVIET wm6.1 rom with the standard keyboard from 6.0. Thank you algasystems.

I have started a new thread at: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1949979#post1949979 for this variation. I will keep this until Kozhura releases his next version, but this is as Kozhura-like as I know how to make it. The changes are:

1. All pre-installed apps removed
2. Boot splash replaced with the standard one from WM6
3. Restored the correct keyboard

In the new thread, I have attached images that show the new (old good one) keyboard, the version screen, and storage right after installation.

The PDAVIET ROM has 8MB pagepool. And yes, clearly the hardware buttons work for me. Bluetooth pairs to my laptop and syncs.

Please feel free to use this and improve it. I hope this works for you.:)

Regards.

Hey SanJay, excellent work!!! I checked out the PDAViet 6.1 Rom but didn't like it too much, maybe it was the keyboard :D... but gonna definitely check this out! Thanks!

[vimesUK]

delete this post

[dpdurst]

Added the WM 6.1 that Sanjay created to my website now so you don't have to use rapishare. Enjoy

http://wm6.flyingarizona.net

[gregy74]

Kozhura posted yesterday another 6.1 ROM on 4pda.ru forum.
But this ROM is also not OK.

[toja56]

Hi All ! (Only for your information)

CEOS_6.1_ENG(kozhura_Edition) is death !:(

His annoucement:
Я больше не занимаюсь прошивками, времени у меня вообще нету ,да и машинку давно продал(неделю назад). Последний релиз от PDAVIET (http://www.pdaviet.net/showthread.php?t=20504)
publication to: http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=61076

Alternatively Edition : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1949979

[kenq]

i flashed my 4700 to the pdaviet61 rom and still i cannot install certificates. Has anybody been able to install certificates?

I had the same problem with installing a certificate to allow me to connect to an exchange server.

I'm using the Koz 6.0 rev 4.

Here is the solution that worked for me:

Preface: This is not a how to on how to install a certificate properly... this is a back way.

We use WPA with self signed certs at work. I was not able to log in to our wireless network last week. Over the weekend I did some digging and reading here, particulary from one person who was able to backup from older WM and restore to this ROM.

1. First I restored my WM5 ROM and imported the Certs I needed and installed Resco Explorer/Reg Add-In (you can use the demo if you dont want to buy).

2. Look for the Certificate store here in the registry:

HKLM\Comm\Security\SystemCertificates\(Cert Store in my case: )Root\Certificates\**Certificate Thumbprint**

The thumbprint is viewable by double clicking on the cert in Windows XP/Vista. Go to the Details Tab and look at the thumbprint Field. That is the key name under Certificates in the path above. I used Resco and exported that key. Alternatively you could export the entire SystemCertificates Key.

3. Save your exported registry to a card or your windows box.

4. Flashed Khozura Rom Wm6 Fix 3 and installed Resco Explorer/Reg Add In.

5. Put the Exported Registry Key(s) back on the device.

6 If you exported only the key go to A if you exported the entire systemcertificates go to B

6A. A tap of the exported cert registry entry should prompt you to install it. You can also go to the resco registry editor and choose "Import" from the file menu.

6B. Since you exported the entire system certificates first browse to the certificate store with resco registry editor and export the entire WM6 systemcertificates key. Now Import (tap) your exported WM5 systemcertificates reg file and follow the prompts, next tap the newer WM6 systemcertificates reg file. This will yield only the differences between WM5 and WM6 allowing you to keep the newer WM6 info.

7. Press the power switch at the top to put the unit in standby. Wait about a minute then soft reset.

8. Try your WPA connection.

[kenq]

I have an HX4700.

With my PDAVIET WM5, I set the autolock to 0mins and the device would quite happily stay on until either the auto switch-off time in the power settings, or I turned it off manually.

When ever I turned it back on, it would always ask for the password.

This was an ideal solution for me as I travel a lot with my 4700, so it is always locked if i'm not using it.

With the WM6 koz and PDAVIET, the autolock seems to lock after the set time regardless. EG using tomtom and the screen locks part way down the road.

If I switch off the autolock then it's always unlocked, and if I switch it on, it locks by itself when I'm trying to navigate.

Any ideas?

Thanks for eveyone's input on this thread.

[teentitan2k2]

Anyone else notice that your pocketpc gets really hot when using the wifi for a little while? Or your wifi strength gets really weak as time goes on and the device gets a little bit warmer?

Has anyone noticed that if you have cards in your slots your device runs a bit slower?

Just some random questions I was wondering about

Keep up the good work kozhura; Im currently using the latest build with a2dp fix installed and battery fix installed.

[Chief Ops]

Google translation of Kozhura's message:

"I am no longer doing rom, the time I do not have any, and the machine has long been sold (a week ago)."

[GSX600FMAN]

Oh No! Kozhura wont be making anymore ROM's for the 4700 as he has sold his, not really got the time and has moved on. :( He did a fantastic job bringing our ipaq 4700's up to date & current standard. I thank him for his work, effects and wish him good luck in his future work. :)

[sanjay1951]

Google translation of Kozhura's message:

"I am no longer doing rom, the time I do not have any, and the machine has long been sold (a week ago)."

This is really bad news. Such a bright light is gone. We counted on him and his amazing work to make the 4700 (still the best PDA) shine.

Kozhura, I feel the sadness of losing your leadership. We eagerly looked for your "Russia Russia, Putin Putin, Vodka Vodka" signature as a sign of new treats on page 1. Although you may not do ROMs anymore, I hope we will still see you here for guidance. Thank you for all you have done for us 4700 geeks.

With deep regards and thanks,
Sanjay

[dirlan2001]

Google translation of Kozhura's message:

"I am no longer doing rom, the time I do not have any, and the machine has long been sold (a week ago)."


That is bad news indeed ...... Hopefully he finds a new challenge that will have him 'on top of things' again.

Maybe we should move on too, when The Master goes, the rest must follow.


*sigh*

Dirk

[figurhead]

I don't want to spoil anything here, but since moving on to the iPAQ 211 Enterprise, I have never looked back. The thing runs awesome, wireless for hours, battery life is incredible, very fast; must I go on. I loved my two hx4700s, but I had to move on; Too many issues with the cooked ROMs. I wish you all well, and good luck in your endeavors creating and having a good time working on the hx4700 progression - too bad kozhura bowed out, he was/is great. Great memories I take with me.......:)

[turrumbi]

is there anyone else happy with their 211?
is there a forum re. 211?
More info would help all!
thanx

[GSX600FMAN]

I've downloaded and installed your new WM6.1kbd using the Chrismuzzle Bootloader, no problem. :) I hard reset twice then soft reset. I see green splash screen with 2.61 in bottom right corner. It looks great, i've set it to the usual settings, UK, date & time. I like the get started icon. I will load some programs now and give update. The first will be SPB Pocket plus (4) and SPB Backup, Then IGO 2006+. Memory reports 80.15Mb Storage and Program is 29.68Mb :cool:

[alienkidmj12]

I folks, i have both the 4700 and the new 214, i must say that i still love both of my machines, whether it be testing apps/roms etc etc. The 4700 is made with better material and the screen seems slightly easier to press, although the 214 has faster abilities being a faster rom with use with wm6, im not sure about the slot being different as i never had any cards to check out, all though i have tried my old 2gb sd card and cf card and they both work as expected. Im may just keep the 4700 as a backup until im sure that the 214 will live up to its expectations, as the only problem i have with 4700 at the moment is wm 6 keeps complaining about the backup battery being low, and ive no way of getting a replacement :(

[albertorrent]

thanks Kozhura for everything you did for the HX4700 and for us down there !

[hhx]

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thanks Kozhura for everything for Hp4700/4705:D:D

[Huck33]

thanks Kozhura for all thd good time i had with your ROM

[dirlan2001]

With Kozhura gone, I decided to to speed up the acquisition of my new toy. It's the latest HP 614c.

It was fun while it lasted, and I'll keep following the evolution in here .... (the hx4700 is way to lovely to kick out)

Tnx all :D

Dirk

[jwy2k2]

Thanks very much for all your hard work Kozhura. We really appreciate it. Спасибо. :)

[Philis]

thanks Kozhura for all thd good time i had with your ROM
Legends shall live on .... thank you.

[psyCORe]

I went out from romocooking good bye![/URL]


aww man :( , we gonna miss you alot,
thanks for your greatest effort, maybe you'll need some rest but perhaps you can bring suprise , who knows you'll change mind back for new cookin. :D,

supa speshivo, kozhura :cool:

[Tillek]

Just a question. What are the differences between the 21x models? Just localization?

[alan sh]

Yes - no difference really.

[ZinFab]

I folks, i have both the 4700 and the new 214, i must say that i still love both of my machines, whether it be testing apps/roms etc etc. The 4700 is made with better material and the screen seems slightly easier to press, although the 214 has faster abilities being a faster rom with use with wm6, im not sure about the slot being different as i never had any cards to check out, all though i have tried my old 2gb sd card and cf card and they both work as expected. Im may just keep the 4700 as a backup until im sure that the 214 will live up to its expectations, as the only problem i have with 4700 at the moment is wm 6 keeps complaining about the backup battery being low, and ive no way of getting a replacement :(

search the thread for backup battery or something along those lines there were some links posted about this

[teentitan2k2]

Hey, what size is the page pool on this mod again? Did we originally say it was 8mb or what size.

[FrankKF]

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thanks Kozhura for everything for Hp4700/4705:D:D

.. no doubt we all owe to Kozhura's leadership in moving our hx4700 series from paper weights to valuable tools ... certainly speaking for myself, this is the case.

Too bad there has not a been a means for rewarding his efforts better than the channels presented to us.

What remains to be done? From my perspective K's WM-6-v4 is a very well developed ROM, everything works for me .. BT, WiFi, Sound, TouchScreen, ActiveSync, Apps... However, we are still lacking SDHC support .. a feature that appears to be a driver issue, not hardware; to my sense SDHC support is an important feature which I'd be willing to support with my funds.

So, is there a hacker or consortium of hackers among our community who could (a) address SDHC compatibility?

And, (b), is there a possibility to write a driver add-in that would allow us to tune our PagePool to suit our application needs.. without the end-user having to cook a ROM revision?

One or both of these features could well justify having our 4700/4705 units for a few more years .. as I see the HP21x series as not a big enough step to abandon my 4705, just yet.

What say, you?

[kounkhmer2269]

I'm now reverting to 2003 SE OS; also, I'm recently contemplating of acquiring (possibly) a 4GB SD and either 16 or 32GB CF cards to run on my beloved hx4705, and therefore I'd like your input and suggestions on its (hx4705) maximum capacity.

Thanks for a million

[jhp2025]

Hi Pal,

Is there anyone experience problem with sync, which takes longer time than usual, but still oke.

I'm using the latest MS ActiveSync 4.5 at the moment.

Thanks specialy for Kozhura, you're at your best.

Hope that God bless you forever.

Jodie

[FrankKF]

I'm now reverting to 2003 SE OS; also, I'm recently contemplating of acquiring (possibly) a 4GB SD and either 16 or 32GB CF cards to run on my beloved hx4705, and therefore I'd like your input and suggestions on its (hx4705) maximum capacity.

Thanks for a million

Two points for your consideration:

a. It is safe .. perfectly safe .. to run Kozhura's WM6-v4. It is a MUCH better choice than reverting .. and everything works. This observation reflects my experience over the past couple of months.

b. I have 4GB SD (not SDHC) plus 16GB CF on mine .. it is A-OK. But note that you'll want to get faster cards for better performance. (I hope that the SDHC driver patch will emerge from our community ... and that will point to 16GB SDHC plus 48GB CF eventually ... AWESOME!!)

[FrankKF]

Hi Pal,

Is there anyone experience problem with sync, which takes longer time than usual, but still oke.

I'm using the latest MS ActiveSync 4.5 at the moment.

....

I had this problem also ... see #2045 for the solution that worked for me. Today my ActiveSync works every time and quickly.

[figurhead]

... the only problem i have with 4700 at the moment is wm 6 keeps complaining about the backup battery being low, and ive no way of getting a replacement :(

I replaced my hx4700 backup battery when I first bought my dead hx4700 on ebay, and cleaned and revived it, and still working, even though I've moved on to the 211. Anyway, you can get the ROM upgrade and the backup battery and more at www.pocketpctechs.com. They were very good to me.:) Good luck. THe battery replacement is not for the faint-of-heart. If you are into working and soldering small electronics, then this is no prob. I had nothing to lose when I did it, and ended up with a nice $100 hx4700.

[kounkhmer2269]

Two points for your consideration:

a. It is safe .. perfectly safe .. to run Kozhura's WM6-v4. It is a MUCH better choice than reverting .. and everything works. This observation reflects my experience over the past couple of months.

b. I have 4GB SD (not SDHC) plus 16GB CF on mine .. it is A-OK. But note that you'll want to get faster cards for better performance. (I hope that the SDHC driver patch will emerge from our community ... and that will point to 16GB SDHC plus 48GB CF eventually ... AWESOME!!)


Thanks for your advice.

From what I've read, my understanding is that Kozhura's WM6-v3 is appeared to be more stable than WM6-v4. However, based on your personal experience with these two versions, which one would you suggest or recommend?

Thanks again.

[FrankKF]

Thanks for your advice.

From what I've read, my understanding is that Kozhura's WM6-v3 is appeared to be more stable than WM6-v4. However, based on your personal experience with these two versions, which one would you suggest or recommend?

Thanks again.

I can only talk from the perspective of my own experience ... I stepped through all of Kozhura's releases .. and landed on his WM6-v4. I did NOT attempt 6.1, however ... as the immediate comments were signaling problems.

While there has been considerable discussion on this thread about difficulties, including with v4, my experience has been positive. This means that, (a) I have followed the ROM burning procedures perfectly, OR (b) I have just been lucky with my unit, OR (c) a+b.

I should add that I had my unit upgraded to 128MB memory by PocketPCTechs.com ... and recommend them and the upgrade.

[jwy2k2]

IMO version 3 was better than version 4. I've installed every ROM that kozhura created except 6.1
Version 4 does have a different install procedure but I think that I installed it correctly. I'm on the pdaViet6.1 now.

[figurhead]

Thanks .....is that Kozhura's WM6-v3 is appeared to be more stable than WM6-v4..... which one would you suggest or recommend?.

I found v3 to be very stable, with good battery wear, using both a 2GB SD and a 4GB CF card. BUT, I could not connect to WPA-PSK encrypted wireless.

I found v4 to be stable, I think the WPA-PSK worked good, but battery life really drained quickly with the two cards installed (SD & CF).

I reverted to the 211 Enterprise rather upgrade the memory of the hx4700, although that upgrade from pocketpctechs is definetly the way to go, if keeping the 4700 is in your best interest.

[kounkhmer2269]

I can only talk from the perspective of my own experience ... I stepped through all of Kozhura's releases .. and landed on his WM6-v4. I did NOT attempt 6.1, however ... as the immediate comments were signaling problems.

While there has been considerable discussion on this thread about difficulties, including with v4, my experience has been positive. This means that, (a) I have followed the ROM burning procedures perfectly, OR (b) I have just been lucky with my unit, OR (c) a+b.

I should add that I had my unit upgraded to 128MB memory by PocketPCTechs.com ... and recommend them and the upgrade.

You guys have been GREAT in helping me to polish my decision here. Again, thank you for being so wonderfully helpful.

Thanks,
Anthony

[santasemilla]

Hi everyone,

I'm very worry about my HX4700. It has Kozhura's WM6 R4 and everything was OK up to now.

My PPC turned very slow and I didn't know why. I did a hard reset it and restore the backup file with no problems and suddenly, when I restarted once more, it never booted again! I can only see the HP+ logo blue screen. I tried hard reset and got nothing. I plug it to AC-Power but nothing happens. I was able to put it into boot-mode and rewrite WM6 R4. It did it without any error but when I tried to restart the PPC (or do a hard reset) the only thing I can see is the "clearing data, please wait" message.

Does anybody suffered this before? I don't know what could it be! the battery was ok. Is the original one... I don't know if battery dead is this way! the thing is that I don't have instruments to test battery charge.

Please if some one can help me, I would be very grateful.
Thanks in advance,

Lucas

PS: On AC Power, the orange light is not flashing... It should flash??? Or if the battery is completely dead it wont do anything?

[MannyMania]

[QUOTE=santasemilla;1982025]Hi everyone,

I'm very worry about my HX4700. It has....


I had a glitch like this once with one of the releases.... not sure whitch one but that's not important. I found that after you load any rom the 1st hard reset just sits there"Clearing Data" like it's frozen. I give it about 30 seconds and do another hard reset. The 2nd "Clearing Data" then works and there should be no problems. Don't worry if after it clears the data you get a white screen... it should be fine in about 1min.

Try it... I hope it helps you.

L8er.

[dirlan2001]

Hi everyone,

I'm very worry about my HX4700. It has Kozhura's WM6 R4 and everything was OK up to now.

My PPC turned very slow and I didn't know why. I did a hard reset it and restore the backup file with no problems and suddenly, when I restarted once more, it never booted again! I can only see the HP+ logo blue screen. I tried hard reset and got nothing. I plug it to AC-Power but nothing happens. I was able to put it into boot-mode and rewrite WM6 R4. It did it without any error but when I tried to restart the PPC (or do a hard reset) the only thing I can see is the "clearing data, please wait" message.

Does anybody suffered this before? I don't know what could it be! the battery was ok. Is the original one... I don't know if battery dead is this way! the thing is that I don't have instruments to test battery charge.

Please if some one can help me, I would be very grateful.
Thanks in advance,

Lucas

PS: On AC Power, the orange light is not flashing... It should flash??? Or if the battery is completely dead it wont do anything?


I guess your battery is death. The led should be flashing when charging and stay solid when finished. If the battery is finished you can't get the ol' lady to work.....

Dirk

[MannyMania]

I guess your battery is death. The led should be flashing when charging and stay solid when finished. If the battery is finished you can't get the ol' lady to work.....

Dirk
Thats all correct except when the in bootloader mode, flashing process, or while rebooting. Last night i wanted to flash to another wm6.1 but my battery was low (cf and sd slots were not working). I put it into bootloader mode started flashing. It was after 2am and i wasn't going to wait for it to fnish. This morning at 9am it was still in bootloader mode and flashing completed. After it booted my battery is full. The flashing light I believe only active when the os is loaded up. Now if you can't even get it into bootloader mode then your in trouble. Try pulling the main battery for a minute & putting it back. Then try to put it into bootloader right away. It it works then reflash.

Good luck.

[objectref]

Hi to all,

i resurrected my hx4700 two days ago and have installed a version of Kozura (WM6) but i do not remember which one. How can i see the release number of it ??

[comtech2005]

Hi to all,

i resurrected my hx4700 two days ago and have installed a version of Kozura (WM6) but i do not remember which one. How can i see the release number of it ??

Hello,

Start/settings/systeem/about.

Greetings, Andre.

[Jicker]

Verry strange! I've updated my HP4700 to Wm6 (build 18533.0.7.0.) When I start TomTom and bluetooth high quality and I get my sound by BT Motorola headphone (build in my helmet), I hear the voice (each sentence) very strange. First word in my headphone, then a word on my Pda en again a word on my headphone. Next sentence the same etc. :confused:
When I start my music, this is only heard by my headphone. When I start them (music and TomTom) together, TomTom acts again very strange while the music is playing normal by my headphone.


I've tried several things. Also tried to delete and rename the Btcoreif.dll file. The file cann't be deleted or renamed.

Who can help me???

[santasemilla]

I guess your battery is death. The led should be flashing when charging and stay solid when finished. If the battery is finished you can't get the ol' lady to work.....

Dirk

Well yeah... I had the chance to test the battery whit a tester today and it had 0.00 Volts on it.. hehe. :rolleyes: I already ordered a new battery and I think I will have it for the next week end. I'll let you know if that solves the problem.

Thank you all for the help!
Lucas

[kounkhmer2269]

Guys, sorry to have bothered you (again); however, I REALLY need your ideas and suggestions on the upgrade decision (my hx4705).

I've read your comments with great interest and worry and excitement; however, recently, (I think) I'm gravitating toward Kozhura's WM6-v3, since it's (presumably) more stable, as opposed to WM6-v4.

Apparently, at least in part, this is a do-or-die decision, and therefore I need your assistance.

My question is: "Should I stay with the 2003 SE OS?" or "Should I go for the Kozhura's WM6-v3 upgrade?"

Also, I'm afraid of losing my VGA quality (and other programs) and compatibility issue after the upgrade.

I'm looking forward to hearing your ideas and suggestions on this critical decision.

Thanks,
Anthony

[turrumbi]

well i bit the bullet and bought an ipaq 212 - it arrived today
it runs like a dream, fast and stable and everything i have installed seems to run ok. the only shortcoming is, as some have reported , the screen is a bit spongy but i'm getting used to it already.
I'll be putting my 4700 on ebay
thanx for your support and encouragement over the time
J

[MannyMania]

well i bit the bullet and bought an ipaq 212 - it arrived today
it runs like a dream, fast and stable and everything i have installed seems to run ok. the only shortcoming is, as some have reported , the screen is a bit spongy but i'm getting used to it already.
I'll be putting my 4700 on ebay
thanx for your support and encouragement over the time
J


Yeah.... I was kinda thinking of getting the new ipaq. I checked the specs and it looks like they got rid of the IR port (or forgot to mention it?) How am i supposed to Novii Remote.....hehe, Oh well. Can you let me know if it has the IR port?

Thanks!

[comtech2005]

Yeah.... I was kinda thinking of getting the new ipaq. I checked the specs and it looks like they got rid of the IR port (or forgot to mention it?) How am i supposed to Novii Remote.....hehe, Oh well. Can you let me know if it has the IR port?

Thanks!

Sorry, no infrared anymore.:(

Greetings, Andre.

[speedymey]

i recently flash my 4700 with khozura's release 4 wm6.
but afterward i cannot do clean hard reset.
is there anyone experience the same problem?
please help how to solve this problem.
thanks

[turrumbi]

i'm selling my old 4700 on ebay so i thought i would reload 2003 but it doesnt seem to exist on the HP disk. does anyone have a copy?
thanx
t

[comtech2005]

i'm selling my old 4700 on ebay so i thought i would reload 2003 but it doesnt seem to exist on the HP disk. does anyone have a copy?
thanx
t

Hello,

You can find it here: http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareDescription.jsp?lang=en&cc=nl&prodTypeId=215348&prodSeriesId=420534&prodNameId=420535&swEnvOID=2050&swLang=8&mode=2&taskId=135&swItem=ip-47340-1

Greetings, Andre.

[turrumbi]

hi and thanx andre
this wm 2003 you pointed me to is only 5.61mb in size. it just doesnt seem big enough! Are you sure that it will work?
thanx again

[comtech2005]

i recently flash my 4700 with khozura's release 4 wm6.
but afterward i cannot do clean hard reset.
is there anyone experience the same problem?
please help how to solve this problem.
thanks

Hello,

Try to do a hard reset with the reset button, use your stylus to do that.
After that do the clean reset.
Greetings, Andre.

[objectref]

Hello,

Start/settings/systeem/about.

Greetings, Andre.

Thanks, It says "Windows Mobile 6 Classic" and "CE OS 5.2.1933 (Build 18533.0.7.0)"

What Kosura's release is ?

[comtech2005]

Thanks, It says "Windows Mobile 6 Classic" and "CE OS 5.2.1933 (Build 18533.0.7.0)"

What Kosura's release is ?

Hi,

I think that it was this version 6.0.7.0 fix 3, you can download the newest version (6.0.7.0 Rel 4 ENG - 11/9/07) here: http://wm6.flyingarizona.net

Greetings, Andre.

[comtech2005]

hi and thanx andre
this wm 2003 you pointed me to is only 5.61mb in size. it just doesnt seem big enough! Are you sure that it will work?
thanx again

Hi,

Okay you can find the full update here: http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareIndex.jsp?lang=en&cc=nl&prodNameId=420535&prodTypeId=215348&prodSeriesId=420534&swLang=8&taskId=135&swEnvOID=2050

Greetings, Andre.

[TeleFragger]

ok... so now my ipaq is still running rev4...however..

a tad sluggish now and then...
ok fine..

but my calendar and contacts do not work. Neither does active sync.....

I cleared all data and re flashed and still not working..

anyone have any ideas?
I even went into start/settings/connections/usb to pc/ and clicked advanced check box.....


anyone have any suggestions to try?
THanks
Jeff

my error is like this...

synchronization cannot be completed successfully. Reconnect your device and try again. If hte problem persists, see the Microsoft Active Sync Troubleshooter in Microsoft Activesync Help on your desktop computer

[TeleFragger]

well I downloaded sp33318.exe from hp.com. WM5....
installed it and all went well... my contacts work again and all...

now trying to reinstall the rev4 again.... so we will see.... :D

[TeleFragger]

ok that was it...

I got all the way back to restoring all of my apps... turns out my contacts stopped working again... did a flush and rev 4 base was there and it worked...

so now im installing all of my apps again!!!!

but im back up and running!!!

[objectref]

Hi,

I think that it was this version 6.0.7.0 fix 3, you can download the newest version (6.0.7.0 Rel 4 ENG - 11/9/07) here: http://wm6.flyingarizona.net

Greetings, Andre.

Thanks!

Ok, so i eventually running Rel 3. The ppc is fine enough, the only problem i have is that this release does not contain msn messenger (or Live Messenger). I have searched the net but i only find some betas of it that are already expired.
Is there a way to install msn messenger again ??

Thanks (again) for any help.

[pepeluu]

Guys, sorry to have bothered you (again); however, I REALLY need your ideas and suggestions on the upgrade decision (my hx4705).

I've read your comments with great interest and worry and excitement; however, recently, (I think) I'm gravitating toward Kozhura's WM6-v3, since it's (presumably) more stable, as opposed to WM6-v4.

Apparently, at least in part, this is a do-or-die decision, and therefore I need your assistance.

My question is: "Should I stay with the 2003 SE OS?" or "Should I go for the Kozhura's WM6-v3 upgrade?"

Also, I'm afraid of losing my VGA quality (and other programs) and compatibility issue after the upgrade.

I'm looking forward to hearing your ideas and suggestions on this critical decision.

Thanks,
Anthony

Hi.

If WM 2003 were better you would not find a 2000+ thread talking about how to push WM5 and WM6 in our beloved toys. Just try some of the different ROMs in this and Sanjai´s thread (for WM 6.1) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=371079 until you find the one you like the best.

With Chrismrulz bootloader you can always load any ROM you wish. I do not think you can actually brick the hx4700 if you have that tool. (You can always go back to WM 2003). So...

Forget your fears and good luck!!

[Da_G]

Whoops, wrong thread.. ignore me :)

[comtech2005]

Thanks!

Ok, so i eventually running Rel 3. The ppc is fine enough, the only problem i have is that this release does not contain msn messenger (or Live Messenger). I have searched the net but i only find some betas of it that are already expired.
Is there a way to install msn messenger again ??

Thanks (again) for any help.

Hi,

Somewhere in this thread is an link to a new live messenger, you can search for it.:D

There is also a new rom, look in this new thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=371079 :)

Greetings, Andre.

[objectref]

Hi,

Somewhere in this thread is an link to a new live messenger, you can search for it.:D

There is also a new rom, look in this new thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=371079 :)

Greetings, Andre.

Thanks for the reply. I do not want to reflash to a new ROM, i just want to be able to use MSN with the ROM i already have. I have searched this thread and found nothing else but a beta of MSN that when i tried to install, said it "has expired".

Unless i miss something vital on the search. Can you help me please ?

[comtech2005]

Thanks for the reply. I do not want to reflash to a new ROM, i just want to be able to use MSN with the ROM i already have. I have searched this thread and found nothing else but a beta of MSN that when i tried to install, said it "has expired".

Unless i miss something vital on the search. Can you help me please ?

Hello,

You can download MSN messenger for pocket-pc here: http://www.download.com/MSN-Messenger-Pocket-PC-2002-/3000-2163_4-10179934.html?tag=lst-0-22

Greetings, Andre.

[Dingo_HR]

WPA-TKIP is now PERFECTLY working without needing Odyssey Client!!

Works on both the Axim X51V and the HX4700!!

Download Instructions: download archive http://rapidshare.com/files/59123134/x51v_wm6_wpa_fix.rar.html
You must copy wzcsvc.dll to your \windows folder
You can't do that in your PDA.
1- Turn-off wifi, then soft-reset your PDA
2- Connect to your PC via activesync
3- Copy wzcsvc.dll from PC to \windows folder of PDA via ActiveSync's explorer

Thanks to vagus :D

working great THX

[dirlan2001]

Look here :

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=374560

:D:D


Dirk

[PFP]

Well, for a complete idiot's guide to upgrading ipaq 4700 (that's readme.txt), you should've mentioned that mtty.exe does not support copy paste. So... as it is written in readme.txt: WRITE command lnb OS_WM6.nb0, do not copy paste the command, coz it won't work. Blazingly fast write ROM otherwise.
Happy to see that you will have all the programs installed, on their place. I think you don't have to reinstall anything... Let's have a look.

Good day

Hi was wondering if you could help. I am trying to install WM6 onto an IPAQ 4700 using mtty. My problem is that when i sellect the devise and click ok mtty opens up an other screen and prints CLIENT 4 times and does not allow any imput. As a result I can not input inb_OS etc. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated

Many thanks:eek:

[PFP]

Well, for a complete idiot's guide to upgrading ipaq 4700 (that's readme.txt), you should've mentioned that mtty.exe does not support copy paste. So... as it is written in readme.txt: WRITE command lnb OS_WM6.nb0, do not copy paste the command, coz it won't work. Blazingly fast write ROM otherwise.
Happy to see that you will have all the programs installed, on their place. I think you don't have to reinstall anything... Let's have a look.

Good day

Hi was wondering if you could help. I am trying to install WM6 onto an IPAQ 4700 using mtty. My problem is that when i sellect the devise and click ok mtty opens up an other screen and prints CLIENT 4 times and does not allow any imput. As a result I can not input inb_OS etc. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

many thanks

Many thanks:eek:

[sanjay1951]

Hi was wondering if you could help. I am trying to install WM6 onto an IPAQ 4700 using mtty. My problem is that when i sellect the devise and click ok mtty opens up an other screen and prints CLIENT 4 times and does not allow any imput. As a result I can not input inb_OS etc. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

many thanks

Many thanks:eek:

Bootloader is far easier for installing this. Did you try it? If so, did it not work?

[aemandien]

Hi All

I haven't been here in a while now.

The last upgrade I did was WM6 - September 2007. I'm trying to catchup reading the posts but it gets a bit confusing with regards to the "best" version to use.

Which version is the best to upgrade to? (could you send me the link please? With maybe an explanation please)

I know in previous versions I could not install the Wireless LAN certificate.
PPC2003 and WM5 were able to. Does the newer WM6/WM6.1 version(s) fix this?

Also, is there perhaps a (correct) procedure to follow with regards to flashing the hx4700 to Wm6/WM6.1? Bootloader or mtty???

Your help and feedback would be greatly appreciated. (if possible could you send/post links and version "dates" please?)

Thank You

AJ

[aemandien]

Hi .. Uhm .. did this thread perhaps move to another loaction ???

kinda quiet in here ....

[jwy2k2]

Hi .. Uhm .. did this thread perhaps move to another loaction ???

kinda quiet in here ....
Kozhura stopped work on this so quieter now. Check this thread out:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=371079

[Megas3300]

Is there any way that I can remove the system tray from the today screen?

[dirlan2001]

Hi All

I haven't been here in a while now.

The last upgrade I did was WM6 - September 2007. I'm trying to catchup reading the posts but it gets a bit confusing with regards to the "best" version to use.

Which version is the best to upgrade to? (could you send me the link please? With maybe an explanation please)

I know in previous versions I could not install the Wireless LAN certificate.
PPC2003 and WM5 were able to. Does the newer WM6/WM6.1 version(s) fix this?

Also, is there perhaps a (correct) procedure to follow with regards to flashing the hx4700 to Wm6/WM6.1? Bootloader or mtty???

Your help and feedback would be greatly appreciated. (if possible could you send/post links and version "dates" please?)

Thank You

AJ

Hi,


Up to now I've been on the latest Kozhura release 4 (look on the first post of this thread) without any issues.

Dirk

[lhasistos]

Durex ,its my first post here I try to find over the net this trouble , i have the same with wm5 HP2.01.11 Spa HP , its a wrong value inside ,Bat IC , when my bat reaches under 10% good by same problemm dont charge any more ,same as your trouble , i open a new batt and i see that cells are well charged but IC not send bat current to the bat pins because are an incorrect value inside , ita a rom inside ,I post in this forum but nothing answer , my 4700 was reflashed to wm5 , I have an original one and one new thats died , now i purchased other , the dead not charge anymore ....

[123thisisme]

I searched for WM6.1 update from pdaviet and I tested it on my device. The ROM is really fast but the keyboard looks awful, so I decided to replace it with the default keyboard image.

Download link: pdav61clean_default_keyboard.rar (http://rapidshare.com/files/104520389/pdav61clean_default_keyboard.rar)

If it doesn't work, try the mtty.exe method: OS_WM6.nb0 (http://rapidshare.com/files/105618316/cleanPDAviet_defaultkeyboard.rar)

[thomasskals]

do you know if this rom will work on Ipaq 614c

[alan sh]

No way - don't even think about it.

[Harrie45]

I installed the upgrade and it works fantastic! Thanks!
One problem: when the hx4700 is off, it drains the battery.
What is the reason for that? How can I prevent that?

[WODP]

KOZHURA is back in 'business'!

Can't wait for his new ROMs.

Hurrey for hx4700 Master ;)

[GSX600FMAN]

Welcome back to your site. You be here I assume rather than the PDAviet site. :) I also assume you got yourself another 4700 for a bargain price. Have you got yourself a PayPal account yet? see http://www.paypal.com :) Looking forward to your efforts again.

[MannyMania]

Anyone who had a 4700 and got the new Ipaq 210 I would like to know your opinion. How much better is it??? I was really close to buying it but changed my mind. What held me back.... The IR port. The 210 has no ir port. Big deal, but if found it really dam nice to be able to ir sync and print. It was also a major problem for me because my 4700 is also my universal remote. Also very cool. The 4700 thanks to the rom cooking is still top of the line. The only thing I never liked about it was the glide point pad. Gaming is outta there. I always expected to see a mod come out for sawpping it to buttons instead of the pad.

kozhura, it's great that you're back.

Thanks to All that keep this going!!

[kszarek]

Take a look at:
http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&title=the_hp_ipaq_210_an_in_depth_review&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1
This is a great review of the 210 vs the 4700. As a former hx4700 (w/ Kozhura wm6), I am pleased with the iPAQ 210 as a replacement. Performance is great, about 2x the memory and apps run well from internal ram. It doesn't haver an infrared, but I rarely used it.My only complaint is the less sensitive touch screen.
For those on the fence on the upgrade, HP is offering a healthy rebate for former hx4700 owners (Fair Market Value plus $50) who buy a 210. Check out: http://www.hp.com/united-states/tradein/promo/ipaq/index.html

[testacc]

Hi was wondering if you could help. I am trying to install WM6 onto an IPAQ 4700 using mtty. My problem is that when i sellect the devise and click ok mtty opens up an other screen and prints CLIENT 4 times and does not allow any imput. As a result I can not input inb_OS etc. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

many thanks

Many thanks:eek:

Did u enter bootloader mode yet ???
I have a problem like u but when i enter bootloader mode it's OK

[johnjirwin]

I've been using and upgrading my HTC xv6800 and would like to dust off my old (but all revamped, like new with added memory) hx4700 which of course has the old WM 2003 on it.
I upgraded to WM5 a long time ago (bought the upgrade from HP off of the HP site) but had LOTS and LOTS of problems. Sent the device to have it overhauled and have extra memory added and reverted back to WM 2003.

Now I would like to upgrade my 4700 to WM6.1 but would love to avoid having to dig around for the proper forum and then read countless posts in order to get to the most current ROM, bootloader, unlocker etc-etc-etc (if that's the terms that is used on the 4700s).

Can anyone help me out on this? :confused:

Thanks!

John

johnirwin@irwinmarine.com

[elparra72]

Johnirwin, try here 'http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=371079'

[johnjirwin]

Johnirwin, try here 'http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=371079'

Thanks for the help.

Is there a lead for a RUU and do you need to "unlock" the device like you need to on the xv6800?

...I assume you just drop the .nbh file into the RUU???

[GSX600FMAN]

you don't need to 'unlock' ipaq 4700's (they are not like phones tied to networks). use the chris bootloader (not the SD card version, i found all it did was empty/format the card). Follow the instructions from chris's site completely.

[chapito]

It seems that Kozhura has already prepared a new version of Winodws Mobil 6.1.
The first images are of the ROM in Russian.
According to my understanding within an hour will be the link with the new version.
I hope you realize a version in English.:)
You can see the work of kozhura in http://4pda.ru.
A greeting:D

[dovlas]

I had the same problem with installing a certificate to allow me to connect to an exchange server.

I'm using the Koz 6.0 rev 4.

Here is the solution that worked for me:

Preface: This is not a how to on how to install a certificate properly... this is a back way.

We use WPA with self signed certs at work. I was not able to log in to our wireless network last week. Over the weekend I did some digging and reading here, particulary from one person who was able to backup from older WM and restore to this ROM.

1. First I restored my WM5 ROM and imported the Certs I needed and installed Resco Explorer/Reg Add-In (you can use the demo if you dont want to buy).

2. Look for the Certificate store here in the registry:

HKLM\Comm\Security\SystemCertificates\(Cert Store in my case: )Root\Certificates\**Certificate Thumbprint**

The thumbprint is viewable by double clicking on the cert in Windows XP/Vista. Go to the Details Tab and look at the thumbprint Field. That is the key name under Certificates in the path above. I used Resco and exported that key. Alternatively you could export the entire SystemCertificates Key.

3. Save your exported registry to a card or your windows box.

4. Flashed Khozura Rom Wm6 Fix 3 and installed Resco Explorer/Reg Add In.

5. Put the Exported Registry Key(s) back on the device.

6 If you exported only the key go to A if you exported the entire systemcertificates go to B

6A. A tap of the exported cert registry entry should prompt you to install it. You can also go to the resco registry editor and choose "Import" from the file menu.

6B. Since you exported the entire system certificates first browse to the certificate store with resco registry editor and export the entire WM6 systemcertificates key. Now Import (tap) your exported WM5 systemcertificates reg file and follow the prompts, next tap the newer WM6 systemcertificates reg file. This will yield only the differences between WM5 and WM6 allowing you to keep the newer WM6 info.

7. Press the power switch at the top to put the unit in standby. Wait about a minute then soft reset.

8. Try your WPA connection.

========================================

[dovlas] Like many other people, some time ago I flashed my hx4700 with Kozhura's edition of WM6 (I had 2003 on it before and never dared installing troublesome WM5). Everything was perfect until my company turned SSL on and required a certificate in order to sync with Exchange server. As many others, WM6 kept rejecting to install the certificate. I tried several things, none of which worked. Then I started my own experimentation and debugging and this is what worked for me, without having to downgrade to WM5:

1. Install the certificate that my company issued on THE PC. I did this by simply double-clicking on the .p7b certificate file that my company gave me and then, when the "Certificates" window opens, select and double-click the certificate. Another window "Certificate" opens, with the "Install Certificate..." button at the bottom of the window. Click the "Install Certificate..." button. At this point certificate information is loaded into PC's registry.
2. In the "Certificate" window, I clicked on the Details tab and located the Thumbprint field. You would see the value being something like "15 1A 96 00 E8 0E 0D 99 C1 26 79 F2 2C E8 41 82 93 8F A7 08". Copy the value and then paste it into say Notepad and remove spaces. At this point you would have something like 161B9701E90F0D99C12679F22CE84182938FA708.
3. Oper regedit.exe. Search for the key (161B9701E90F0D99C12679F22CE84182938FA708). It is typically under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\EnterpriseCe rtificates, in say CA or Root folder, or both. In my case, it was in both folders.
4. Right-click on the key and say "Export". When you open the file in a text editor, it looks something like this:

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\EnterpriseCe rtificates\CA\Certificates\161B9701E90F0D99C12679F 22CE84182938FA708]
"Blob"=hex:15,01,01,01,02,01,01,01,15,01,01,01,fd,1b,f8, f9,bc,7c,e8,bc,db,7c,\
e5,68,2c,94,c7,5b,98,5f,ac,3f,03,00,00,00,01,00,00 ,00,14,00,00,00,15,1a,96,\
00,e8,0e,0d,99,c1,26,79,f2,2c,e8,41,82,93,8f,a7,08 ,19,00,00,00,01,00,00,00,\
10,00,00,00,34,a2,3f,f3,4f,e1,d8,93,0a,ca,86,1c,a6 ,97,3c,36,20,00,00,00,01,\
00,00,00,54,03,00,00,30,82,03,50,30,82,02,fa,a0,03 ,02,01,02,02,10,18,17,7d,\
f9,90,d4,39,92,4c,cf,f3,91,3a,e6,39,7f,30,0d,06,09 ,2a,86,48,86,f7,0d,01,01,\
05,05,00,30,63,31,0b,30,09,06,03,55,04,06,13,02,55 ,53,31,0b,30,09,06,03,55,\
04,08,13,02,46,6c,31,0e,30,0c,06,03,55,04,07,13,05 ,4f,63,61,6c,61,31,1d,30,\
1b,06,03,55,04,0a,13,14,49,6e,74,65,6c,6c,6f,6e,20 ,43,6f,72,70,6f,72,61,74,\
69,6f,6e,31,18,30,16,06,03,55,04,03,13,0f,49,6e,74 ,65,6c,6c,6f,6e,20,56,50,\
4e,20,43,41,30,1e,17,0d,30,35,30,36,30,34,31,35,31 ,37,35,39,5a,17,0d,30,37,\
30,36,30,34,31,35,32,31,35,35,5a,30,63,31,0b,30,09 ,06,03,55,04,06,13,02,55,\
19,67,2d,2c,00,50,3d,c9,bb

If the key was exported from the Root subfolder then line

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\EnterpriseCe rtificates\CA\Certificates\161B9701E90F0D99C12679F 22CE84182938FA708]

would actually look like this:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\EnterpriseCe rtificates\Root\Certificates\161B9701E90F0D99C1267 9F22CE84182938FA708]

5. Now adapt the registry file for importing it into WM6's registry. This is because WM6 stores certificates in a different folder. Replace "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\EnterpriseCe rtificates" in the registry file "with HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\Security\SystemCertificate s" and save the file.
6. Now the critical part!!! Without following change, all my attempts to import the file using three different Windows Mobile registry editors (IBE RegEditor, PHM RegEdit and Resco Registry, all eval/freeware versions) were consistently failing to import all the data from the registry file. After some trial-and-error I concluded the reason is a bug in the Registry manipulation API in the WM6 image that does not handle "hex:". I opened the saved registry file again and replaced "hex:" with "REG_BINARY:".
7. Copy the saved registry file from the PC to my WM6.
8. I imported the file using a registry editor.
9. Took my hx4700 out of the cradle, exit registry editor, close all running applications on my WM6 and pressed the Stand-By button. I left the device alone for around a minute (to let any background writes to flash to complete) and then pushed the Soft Reset button.
10. When I now went to Start->Settings>Certificates, the certificate was showing in the Root tab.
11. I started ActiveSync on my PC and the device properly synced with our corporate Exchange server.

I should mention that in my case, I found the certificate stored in both CA and Root folders on my PC. So, I exported both keys, one at a time, into separate files and performed editing on both files. Then I merged the content of the two files and removed the second instance of "Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00" string. So, what I imported into my WM6 looked something like this:

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\Security\SystemCertificate s\CA\Certificates\161B9701E90F0D99C12679F22CE84182 938FA708]
"Blob"=REG_BINARY:15,01,01,01,02,01,01,01,15,01,01,01,fd ,1b,f8,f9,bc,7c,e8,bc,db,7c,\
e5,68,2c,94,c7,5b,98,5f,ac,3f,03,00,00,00,01,00,00 ,00,14,00,00,00,15,1a,96,\
00,e8,0e,0d,99,c1,26,79,f2,2c,e8,41,82,93,8f,a7,08 ,19,00,00,00,01,00,00,00,\
10,00,00,00,34,a2,3f,f3,4f,e1,d8,93,0a,ca,86,1c,a6 ,97,3c,36,20,00,00,00,01,\
00,00,00,54,03,00,00,30,82,03,50,30,82,02,fa,a0,03 ,02,01,02,02,10,18,17,7d,\
f9,90,d4,39,92,4c,cf,f3,91,3a,e6,39,7f,30,0d,06,09 ,2a,86,48,86,f7,0d,01,01,\
05,05,00,30,63,31,0b,30,09,06,03,55,04,06,13,02,55 ,53,31,0b,30,09,06,03,55,\
04,08,13,02,46,6c,31,0e,30,0c,06,03,55,04,07,13,05 ,4f,63,61,6c,61,31,1d,30,\
1b,06,03,55,04,0a,13,14,49,6e,74,65,6c,6c,6f,6e,20 ,43,6f,72,70,6f,72,61,74,\
69,6f,6e,31,18,30,16,06,03,55,04,03,13,0f,49,6e,74 ,65,6c,6c,6f,6e,20,56,50,\
4e,20,43,41,30,1e,17,0d,30,35,30,36,30,34,31,35,31 ,37,35,39,5a,17,0d,30,37,\
30,36,30,34,31,35,32,31,35,35,5a,30,63,31,0b,30,09 ,06,03,55,04,06,13,02,55,\
19,67,2d,2c,00,50,3d,c9,bb

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\Security\SystemCertificate s\Root\Certificates\161B9701E90F0D99C12679F22CE841 82938FA708]
"Blob"=REG_BINARY:04,00,00,00,01,00,00,00,10,00,00,00,6d ,a8,48,40,7a,c1,64,d9,c9,8b,\
ad,40,42,6c,63,e4,19,00,00,00,01,00,00,00,10,00,00 ,00,34,a2,3f,f3,4f,e1,d8,\
93,0a,ca,86,1c,a6,97,3c,36,03,00,00,00,01,00,00,00 ,14,00,00,00,15,1a,96,00,\
e8,0e,0d,99,c1,26,79,f2,2c,e8,41,82,93,8f,a7,08,14 ,00,00,00,01,00,00,00,14,\
00,00,00,fc,1b,f8,f9,bc,7c,e8,bc,db,7c,e5,68,2c,94 ,c7,5b,98,5f,ac,3f,20,00,\
00,00,01,00,00,00,54,03,00,00,30,82,03,50,30,82,02 ,fa,a0,03,02,01,02,02,10,\
18,17,7d,f9,90,d4,39,92,4c,cf,f3,91,3a,e6,39,7f,30 ,0d,06,09,2a,86,48,86,f7,\
0d,01,01,05,05,00,30,63,31,0b,30,09,06,03,55,04,06 ,13,02,55,53,31,0b,30,09,\
06,03,55,04,08,13,02,46,6c,31,0e,30,0c,06,03,55,04 ,07,13,05,4f,63,61,6c,61,\
31,1d,30,1b,06,03,55,04,0a,13,14,49,6e,74,65,6c,6c ,6f,6e,20,43,6f,72,70,6f,\
72,61,74,69,6f,6e,31,18,30,16,06,03,55,04,03,13,0f ,49,6e,74,65,6c,6c,6f,6e,\
20,56,50,4e,20,43,41,30,1e,17,0d,30,35,30,36,30,34 ,31,35,31,37,35,39,5a,17,\
00,75,e8,19,67,2d,2c,00,50,3d,c9,bb


Now, this worked for me. Messing up with the registry can easily render the device inoperable, cause loss of data and/or require reinstaallation.
USE AT YOUR OWN RISK,
FURTHERMORE, DO NOT IMPORT ANY OF THE ACTUAL CONTENT IN THIS POST. IT IS JUST FOR ILLUSTRATION PURPOSES. DATA BEING EXPORTED AND IMPORTED DEPENDS ON THE CERTIFICATE!

[winterholger]

is there an WM 6.0 or 6.1 image avialible in German with Transcriber included?
Thanks for any reply


Holger

[Hobbit13]

Hello,

Few weeks ago I stumbled upon this tread, and tried to install the Ramsses WM6.1 rom to my hx4700.

Installation went fine, but the device ran unstable. After each reset more programs gave an unsupported or incorrectly signed error. To re-flash the pda I had to remove the extended battery, and that when things went wrong.

The screen stayed black, with power button, reset button, reset+itask+calendar etc, nothing worked. When i removed the battery, and placed it back again the screen turned white, unit I pressed a button, and it became black again. This happend twice, and since no sign of life.
I left the device on the charger for a long time, left it without a battery, and even removed the backup battery for a while, but in veil. I know for sure the extended battery has +70% left.

Can anybody give a suggestion how to get it running again?

thanks a lot, and keep up the good work!

[Puzom]

Hi,

Maybe this will help:

1) Try removing battery for 10 minutes and then try again. May have to poke the reset buton a few times too.

2) Can you put the hx4700 into bootloader mode? If so try reflashing again.

3) If you can reflash do the following after reflash is done:
You must hard reset. Hang up on clearing is normal. Wait a little (2 min) then soft reset wait a little. Then hard reset again wait more (5 min) should be OK, no hang up this time?

4) From HP:
Note: If you simultaneously push and hold the Reset, Calendar, and iTask buttons for more than two seconds, the battery disconnects. To restart the unit, either plug the unit into the AC Adapter or press the Reset button again.

Cheers

[vimesUK]

Hello,

Few weeks ago I stumbled upon this tread, and tried to install the Ramsses WM6.1 rom to my hx4700.

Installation went fine, but the device ran unstable. After each reset more programs gave an unsupported or incorrectly signed error. To re-flash the pda I had to remove the extended battery, and that when things went wrong.

The screen stayed black, with power button, reset button, reset+itask+calendar etc, nothing worked. When i removed the battery, and placed it back again the screen turned white, unit I pressed a button, and it became black again. This happend twice, and since no sign of life.
I left the device on the charger for a long time, left it without a battery, and even removed the backup battery for a while, but in veil. I know for sure the extended battery has +70% left.

Can anybody give a suggestion how to get it running again?

thanks a lot, and keep up the good work!

Mine did exactly the same thing, with revision 1g. First of it would freeze, where it would no longer accept any key inputs. Hard reseting the unit failed to resolve this nor did reflashing it.

Eventually the PDA would no longer recognise the SD card in the slot, not sure why as the card is fine and so are all my other working SD cards.

Then the PDA went black.

Removing both batteries for ages has made no difference and the PDA seems to be totally dead, no sign of life when placed on the cradle.

Bootloader mode is not an option as....

it is dead :(

oh hum, hope that your works out ok, fingers crossed for you.

[Puzom]

@vimesUK

So yours is still dead? No Warrenty nomore?

I just flashed mine to WM6.1 with v1g ROM and sofar seems to be working OK. Had several resets and all progs still run fine.

When I got mine two years ago I flashed it to WM5 (official HP upgrade) and after a week or so it just hang using iGO6 navigation. Nothing helped to get it back to life.....so called HP and they came to get mine as I still had warrenty. According to HP my mainboard had issues and was replaced. All OK since.....just hope that the flashing of WM6.1 ROM will also be working without problems....

Bit scary to read HX4700 die after ROM flashing.......but still wonder perhaps it's just a hardware failure and not the ROMs..........how old was your PDA?

Cheers.

[vimesUK]

@Puzom
The PDA is a few years old so no warranty there I'm afraid. And yes I'm sure that it is dead and sadly resurrection hasn't yet happened, I always wanted a really expensive brick....!

I'm not sure why the events that I noted happened, but they did.

Still onwards and upwards, off to find a replacement...

[sanjay1951]

Mine did exactly the same thing, with revision 1g. First of it would freeze, where it would no longer accept any key inputs. Hard reseting the unit failed to resolve this nor did reflashing it.

Eventually the PDA would no longer recognise the SD card in the slot, not sure why as the card is fine and so are all my other working SD cards.

Then the PDA went black.

Removing both batteries for ages has made no difference and the PDA seems to be totally dead, no sign of life when placed on the cradle.

Bootloader mode is not an option as....

it is dead :(

oh hum, hope that your works out ok, fingers crossed for you.

Vimesuk,

Unfortunate about your PDA. However, before you use mortar with your brick, are you sure the battery cover was in the LOCKED position? The 4700 will not respond to anything if the battery cover is unlocked. Just a thought because I had the same experience and fright. When I locked the battery, it came alive.

Hope this works for you.

Regards,
Sanjay

[vimesUK]

Vimesuk,

Unfortunate about your PDA. However, before you use mortar with your brick, are you sure the battery cover was in the LOCKED position? The 4700 will not respond to anything if the battery cover is unlocked. Just a thought because I had the same experience and fright. When I locked the battery, it came alive.

Hope this works for you.

Regards,
Sanjay

Thanks Sanjay for your help :)

However the micro switch, which is operated by the battery lock, is working fine and is not the problem.

I'm afraid it is as dead as a proverbial Dodo, and just as useful as a stuffed one..!!!

I have arranged to buy a new, well second hand, PDA albeit an X51v, and hopefully that will resolve the situation.

I have used both the Dell and HP and so appreciate the finer points of each unit.

The 214 was just too expensive for what I would use it for these days and as I've bought the Dell with all the std docking stuff and case etc along with...

Spare high capacity Battery 2200mAh
-Bluetooth folding keyboard (with drivers on disk)
-TomTom Navigator 6 includes UK and Europe on CF 2GB card
-VGA connector
I can include my Brodit PDA holder which includes a car charger.
. http://www.dsldevelopments.com/brodit/holder/Dell+Axim%20X51-Brodit-Holder.asp (http://www.dsldevelopments.com/brodit/holder/Dell+Axim%20X51-Brodit-Holder.asp)
...for a fraction of the cost of the 214, or a second hand 4700, so it was an offer that I couldn't refuse :)

Whether the issues were related to the frequent, or the final, flashing of the PDA I'm not sure but, as I have written, they happened as I've described. Within 30 seconds of using the 1g ROM things went down hill, but that could have just been 'one of those things.' :)

I would just like to say a VERY big thanks to all those involved in cooking, creating and modifying these ROM'S, the journey was fun, albeit a little scary at times..!!!

[sanjay1951]

Thanks Sanjay for your help :)

However the micro switch, which is operated by the battery lock, is working fine and is not the problem.

I'm afraid it is as dead as a proverbial Dodo, and just as useful as a stuffed one..!!!

I have arranged to buy a new, well second hand, PDA albeit an X51v, and hopefully that will resolve the situation.

I have used both the Dell and HP and so appreciate the finer points of each unit.

The 214 was just too expensive for what I would use it for these days and as I've bought the Dell with all the std docking stuff and case etc along with...

Spare high capacity Battery 2200mAh
-Bluetooth folding keyboard (with drivers on disk)
-TomTom Navigator 6 includes UK and Europe on CF 2GB card
-VGA connector
I can include my Brodit PDA holder which includes a car charger.
. http://www.dsldevelopments.com/brodit/holder/Dell+Axim%20X51-Brodit-Holder.asp (http://www.dsldevelopments.com/brodit/holder/Dell+Axim%20X51-Brodit-Holder.asp)
...for a fraction of the cost of the 214, or a second hand 4700, so it was an offer that I couldn't refuse :)

Whether the issues were related to the frequent, or the final, flashing of the PDA I'm not sure but, as I have written, they happened as I've described. Within 30 seconds of using the 1g ROM things went down hill, but that could have just been 'one of those things.' :)

I would just like to say a VERY big thanks to all those involved in cooking, creating and modifying these ROM'S, the journey was fun, albeit a little scary at times..!!!

I suppose one will never know what exactly killed your 4700. I hope you give it a decent burial. The Dell is a good device, and you will gain SDHC. That's a bonus that unfortunately we never were able to achieve with the 4700. Enjoy your new/old ride! From the posts I see on XDA, it is likely to be fun as well.

Regards,
Sanjay

[vimesUK]

I suppose one will never know what exactly killed your 4700. I hope you give it a decent burial. The Dell is a good device, and you will gain SDHC. That's a bonus that unfortunately we never were able to achieve with the 4700. Enjoy your new/old ride! From the posts I see on XDA, it is likely to be fun as well.

Regards,
Sanjay

I agree with you there Sanjay, I am saving the 4700 for a little while to play with when I get back off holiday, or cremate it I'm not sure which :D

The X51v has now arrived and I'm using WM 6.1 and trying out a 8GB SDHC card. All seems well and so hopefully it will turn out to be a good buy :)

[Hobbit13]

Unfortunate about your PDA. However, before you use mortar with your brick, are you sure the battery cover was in the LOCKED position? The 4700 will not respond to anything if the battery cover is unlocked. Just a thought because I had the same experience and fright. When I locked the battery, it came alive.

This was sort of the case with my PDA! So I got it up and running again. The cover of the extended battery bricked the "locked" sensor. Therefore the pda assumed it was unlocked all the time.

I now have the latest paviet firmware, and most (if not all) of the quirks are gone. I'm going on a holiday in 12 hours, so just in time!!!

Thanks for all the suggestions!

[elparra72]

Hi Chapito,

Please, can you share the full link?. I'd like to know the kernel version and new improvements.

Thanks!!

[Honeybadger]

Thought I posted this but can't find it so sorry if this is a double-post...

I have a Syson CF Plus GPS card, worked fine before I upgraded my hx4700 with WM6.

My iPAQ is working perfectly btw thanks all!

I would like to get my GPS working under this new OS...

Does anyone know of a driver and/or procedure to get this working again?

Thanks!

HB

[elparra72]

Are you try here 'http://www.sysonchip.co.kr'?

Edit1:
Download page:

http://www.sysonchip.co.kr/eng/down/tec_down.htm

[Honeybadger]

Went there, not seeing a driver...are you?

[Honeybadger]

Ok, I found it...I must have looked at that page 4 times before posting in here...

Thanks for "rubbing my nose in it"! :)

[grayme]

Hi Chapito,

Please, can you share the full link?. I'd like to know the kernel version and new improvements.

Thanks!!

Could be crossed wires, but do you mean this? http://www.pdaviet.net/showthread.php?t=27980

I'm using it, apart from the bottom bar not hiding under Wisbar Advance 3, it seems very stable, fast, etc.

[elparra72]

Hi Grayme,

Yes I used PDAViet v26 ROM and you are right, It's stable and fast but so customized for me. I asked to Chapito about a new Kohura version in RU:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2268816&postcount=2448

I'd like to know if Kozhura is using a newer XIP or, as Phamqunag has changed to 19591. Current Kozhura R5 uses 19949 as Phamquang used in his v25 but now Phamquang has changed to an older version, why?. It's 19949 a unastable version?.

I guest 195xx ROMs were extracted from HTC and 199xx were stracted from Sony (xperia). Maybe 195xx are more compatibles for hx4700. I don't know but if Kozhura is developming with this 19591 XIP maybe we have to discard R5 versions. If khozura is developming with new xperia 20262 XIP then he is trying to get a new R6 version with the most advanced kernel. Well, that my doubt.

Thanks Grayme!

[chapito]

Hi Grayme,

Yes I used PDAViet v26 ROM and you are right, It's stable and fast but so customized for me. I asked to Chapito about a new Kohura version in RU:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2268816&postcount=2448

I'd like to know if Kozhura is using a newer XIP or, as Phamqunag has changed to 19591. Current Kozhura R5 uses 19949 as Phamquang used in his v25 but now Phamquang has changed to an older version, why?. It's 19949 a unastable version?.

I guest 195xx ROMs were extracted from HTC and 199xx were stracted from Sony (xperia). Maybe 195xx are more compatibles for hx4700. I don't know but if Kozhura is developming with this 19591 XIP maybe we have to discard R5 versions. If khozura is developming with new xperia 20262 XIP then he is trying to get a new R6 version with the most advanced kernel. Well, that my doubt.

Thanks Grayme!

Hello elpara72.
The link page where 4pda.ru publishes its Kozhura ROM's is:

http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=81209

This page is the HP iPAQ 4700 WM6.1 (kozhura Edition), Возвращение... I came back...
If you go to HP folder you can see the rest of the work of Kozhura and others who work with the iPAQ.
A greeting.

Note: I am using an automatic translator

En español:
La pagina esta en "perfecto" ruso,asi que ya sabes...
Una pregunta, has actualizado tu hx4700 a 128 MB de memoria RAM.Si es asi ¿donde has enviado la iPAQ ,aqui en España o en el extranjero?.
Un saludo y ....."podemos" "a por ellos". Espero que cuando preguntes a Kozhura no este muy cabre...por perder contra España.
Veo que te estas metiendo en modificar las ROM,..suerte...¡¡Cuando en Español!!!

[marciton]

And for the bluetooth isue. You should delete the file BtCoreId.dll in the windows map. This file is put back automatically. The wrong file is 121K big while the right version is 112K. Try with your pda connected to your computer and with windows explorer if you can't delete it.
Success.

I've no BtCoreId.dll but a BtCoreIf.dll ... it's the same ?
how to delete it the explorer not let me doing it ...

[elparra72]

Thanks Chapito!!

No, I didn't upgrade my iPAQ to 128 MB. I'm still using 64MB and It's enough for entire applications I use (Opera 9.5, Tomtom 7, CorePlayer1.25, QuickMenu 2.7, etc..). Using R5_1e Kozhura based ROM and 8MB pagepool I have around 32MB RAM free. I hardly ever use more than 1 o 2 applications at the same time :-) because I use my ipaq for my agenda, tasks, GPS navigation, Internet surfing from my sofa, etc. I'm trying to configure my company VPN (It's a bit complex) and I can't connect yet :-(

About mod ROMs you are right, I'd like to translate to Spanish. I'm reading a lot of documents and posts but I'm learning only ;-) I didn't found a complete cooking document yet. Vivi cook is great and maybe that is the easier way to create your own ROM. Tommy_adsl (HX 2000 series WM6.1) use the same proccess to create his ROMs and it looks not very complex but I have not found how to extract the OS XIP from an original firmware.

Regards!!!

Edit1:
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I've found a very interesting post => http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=357249

and http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-389772.html

[taavisepp]

Hi,

I am using Kozhura's version for hx4700. Seems to be great, but as I try to open or close Notes, the PDA will hang. Hourglass is spinning and that is it. Anyone else having this sort of issue?

TIA,
Taavi

[grayme]

Thanks Chapito!!

No, I didn't upgrade my iPAQ to 128 MB. I'm still using 64MB and It's enough for entire applications I use (Opera 9.5, Tomtom 7, CorePlayer1.25, QuickMenu 2.7, etc..). Using R5_1e Kozhura based ROM and 8MB pagepool I have around 32MB RAM free. I hardly ever use more than 1 o 2 applications at the same time :-) because I use my ipaq for my agenda, tasks, GPS navigation, Internet surfing from my sofa, etc. I'm trying to configure my company VPN (It's a bit complex) and I can't connect yet :-(

Do you actually find TT7 usable? I found the screen update so slow (once every few seconds), so have stuck with TT6.032.

[elparra72]

Hi Grayme,

TT7 is working fine in my hx4700. I installed it on my CF 16GB - 133x card and then I did a hard reset. I put a shortcut to programs and run fast and stable. As older versions of TT, you don't need to install the application, just create the shortcut.

There is a wonderfull site in Spain for TT (and others applications), but is fully in Spanish. www.elrincondedey.es ;-)

[kingsti]

Hi Grayme,

TT7 is working fine in my hx4700. I installed it on my CF 16GB - 133x card and then I did a hard reset. I put a shortcut to programs and run fast and stable. As older versions of TT, you don't need to install the application, just create the shortcut.

There is a wonderfull site in Spain for TT (and others applications), but is fully in Spanish. www.elrincondedey.es ;-)



64MB hx4700. I am also using TT7. I find it is much slower to start, just a bit slower to refresh the map view when browsing for a location - but still quite usable. The quality of the image is much much nicer than TT6 and I like the fact you can change the car symbol. When travelling on a roundabout there is a distinct lag (as in TT6) and it takes 3-4 seconds before it recognizes I have left the roundabout.

[badgerdid]

I use tt7 too, the black edition, and find it runs great.

I want to know which is the best lite rom version to use


I only want to run tt7 on the 4700 so need a rom without any software installed, or at least one with the least amount installed to give me more ram, preformance etc.

As i mentioned its working fine as is but i dont need most of the stuff on there,

any suggestions?

[spud42]

I use tt7 too, the black edition, and find it runs great.

I want to know which is the best lite rom version to use


I only want to run tt7 on the 4700 so need a rom without any software installed, or at least one with the least amount installed to give me more ram, preformance etc.

As i mentioned its working fine as is but i dont need most of the stuff on there,

any suggestions?

i use sanjays 61v3_lite
doesnt have PIE or mobile media player .. i am running tomtom 6 on mine though....

[bovirus]

I'm using ROM 1.1g (large).

How can I enable the display rotation icon (on the bottom right) to change easily the display rotation?

[spud42]

i just use the itask button then pick screen rotate from there....
i always use mine in landscape mode ....

[dovestar]

I'm based in the UK and I've recently installed this ROM and it's really given my old 4700 a new lease of life, especially with TT7.

However, I've recently discovered that all the appointments are one hour ahead of what they should be when sync from Outlook. I've checked all my setting on Outlook and the host PC and they are all fine so I can only assume that the daylight saving times are not right for the UK on this ROM. Does anyone know of a fix for this?

[spud42]

I'm based in the UK and I've recently installed this ROM and it's really given my old 4700 a new lease of life, especially with TT7.

However, I've recently discovered that all the appointments are one hour ahead of what they should be when sync from Outlook. I've checked all my setting on Outlook and the host PC and they are all fine so I can only assume that the daylight saving times are not right for the UK on this ROM. Does anyone know of a fix for this?

have you checked the time on the PDA in start/settings/time? is there a time set for visiting and is it chosen instead of home? is the home region correct?

just a few thoughts .. we don't have daylight savings so i am not sure where they would be adjusted...

[spencerlim]

somebody need help here...
could somebody tell me how can i help my hx2490 ?
because of it flash rom failed when the time i flashed it
and now i can't boot it up or do anything...
i don't know what can i do...
is that someone know the solution ?
help me Please
Thank you for your reply...=)

[grayme]

somebody need help here...
could somebody tell me how can i help my hx2490 ?
because of it flash rom failed when the time i flashed it
and now i can't boot it up or do anything...
i don't know what can i do...
is that someone know the solution ?
help me Please
Thank you for your reply...=)

Have you tried reflashing it with a rom for your hx2490 rather than for the hx4700?

[mario24601]

The lite version is great, I just need a good picture viewer, any recomendations?

Also, not that my hx4700 has wm6.1 the backup battery is dead for some reason, it shows at zero charge and i get those notices pop up. Is this normal after the WM6.1 update? I thought I read that this WM6.1 no longer requires backup battery, is that correct? If so, then if main battery dies I wont lose programs? Not sure how it works, any thoughts on this backup battery issue? THanks, great site btw, I just found it been using other less 'bright' sites.

[spencerlim]

ya , i tried and now i can't boot up anymore...=(

[grayme]

ya , i tried and now i can't boot up anymore...=(

Doesn't your own link "http://www.wretch.cc/blog/ys900419" help?

[spencerlim]

Too Bad ,
my solution have to depend...
depend what problem...Haha
and that what i don't know , so i ask here lo...
Haha:D

[dpdurst]

Too Bad ,
my solution have to depend...
depend what problem...Haha
and that what i don't know , so i ask here lo...
Haha:D

Have you tried going back to the original HP 2003 software and then try upgrade again?

[alienkidmj12]

Have you tried going back to the original HP 2003 software and then try upgrade again?

take the backup battery out and then reseat it, it should then charge ;)

[dbergler]

I recently upgraded my souped-up pocketPC to CEOS_WM6.1_R5(kozhura_Edition_mod_Ramsses_v1g).nb0 from an older WM5 which was working ok. This unit was upgraded to 128 MB Ram, if my memory serves me well. I used Brighthand Bootloader and the message on the mtty11a.exe screen is exactly as described by those who have successfully changed their rom. In my case when I did a clean reset, by pressing CONTACTS + INBOX + RESET, it asked me if I wanted to clear data by pressing CALENDER, which I did. Then the message "Clearing data, please wait" shows. I left it overnight in the cradle, and it is now still there. I tried reloading and also using an older rom WM6_4700_0_7_0_RELEASE4 with the same result.
I also tried with removing the battery.
Obviously, reloading is not a problem, but how can I get this to work again? Is there anything I overlooked?
Thanks for commenting.

[dpdurst]

I recently upgraded my souped-up pocketPC to CEOS_WM6.1_R5(kozhura_Edition_mod_Ramsses_v1g).nb0 from an older WM5 which was working ok. This unit was upgraded to 128 MB Ram, if my memory serves me well. I used Brighthand Bootloader and the message on the mtty11a.exe screen is exactly as described by those who have successfully changed their rom. In my case when I did a clean reset, by pressing CONTACTS + INBOX + RESET, it asked me if I wanted to clear data by pressing CALENDER, which I did. Then the message "Clearing data, please wait" shows. I left it overnight in the cradle, and it is now still there. I tried reloading and also using an older rom WM6_4700_0_7_0_RELEASE4 with the same result.
I also tried with removing the battery.
Obviously, reloading is not a problem, but how can I get this to work again? Is there anything I overlooked?
Thanks for commenting.

Once you get to the clearing data part, wait for about 1-2 mins and then hit the reset button on the bottom of the PPC, then do this again CONTACTS + INBOX + RESET and the clearing data should take about 5 mins and then you should get to the screen to calibrate. I sometimes have to reset toggle between that the clearing data 1-2 times before it loads it up.

[dbergler]

I tried all of your recommendations. I am only getting the same message if I want to clear data, or I am seeing the HP iPAQ 2.01 screen without further changes. All along, the on/off button is not responding.
Am I fooked? Any other ideas?

Once you get to the clearing data part, wait for about 1-2 mins and then hit the reset button on the bottom of the PPC, then do this again CONTACTS + INBOX + RESET and the clearing data should take about 5 mins and then you should get to the screen to calibrate. I sometimes have to reset toggle between that the clearing data 1-2 times before it loads it up.

[noblezx]

I'm new and I really need help in updating my hx 4700 from WM2003 to the WM6. I will like to say thank you in advance to anyone of you willing to help me with a step-by-step instructions.

[VulcanTourist]

It would be a duplication of effort for someone to help you personally, since instructions to do it already exist. Go get the bootloader created by Chrismrulz; it has instructions included. His bootloader is the most repeatable way to do it. You can find it attached to some thread at this site and many other places, if you search for it. I'm pretty sure I spelled his username correctly.

[dpdurst]

It would be a duplication of effort for someone to help you personally, since instructions to do it already exist. Go get the bootloader created by Chrismrulz; it has instructions included. His bootloader is the most repeatable way to do it. You can find it attached to some thread at this site and many other places, if you search for it. I'm pretty sure I spelled his username correctly.

noblezx,
Check out my signature you can find the roms and the instructions including the bootloader on my site. This should help you more than telling you to go find the thread somewhere.

[s2square]

Kazuni, I am a nubie at this, but with your excellent instructions.......all went well, my hx4705 really screams! my next task is to find a way to adapt a/this ROM to work with my H5555, any thoughts? Once again thxs for all your hard work! Please continue on!

[jjohnson1701]

Is this or another version capable of adding the sliding panels interface to the iPaq 4700?

James

[tomcrosley]

Is there anyway to get the hx4700 w/rom upgrade 6.1 to work with google maps when you don't have a wifi connection.....in other words, will it work off my gps receiver without having a wifi connection?

[Hobbit13]

>in other words, will it work off my gps receiver without having a wifi connection
No, it has to have a internet connection in order to download the maps, they are not available offline.

[Jake1]

In 2003 there was a backup restore to the SD card. Is there one in the WM6.1? I don't see it if there is and I'd really like to know where to find it.
Thanks alot
Jake1:confused:

[Jake1]

Should I install the WM6 R4 right now I have the 6.1 I think. If so where do I find it with the bootloader?