WM6 for HP iPAQ 4700 (kozhura Edition)

[turrumbi]

Do not be lazy and read the complete thread somewhere Kozhura tells you what the difference is or what he has improved in Release 3 and 4.

can anyone else help me?
junior seems unwilling to point me to the appropriate page - i should be able to find the relevant post amongst the 150 pages! how silly of me

[JEV66]

can anyone else help me?
junior seems unwilling to point me to the appropriate page - i should be able to find the relevant post amongst the 150 pages! how silly of me

3 minutes work.Page=126 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=325727&page=126)

[turrumbi]

much appreciated!

[Ernestjwtk]

Winpilot error: "Storage Card" not found.

You possibly restored a previously installed winpilot from a backup. (I'm just assuming here as you don't give much info, but this would have the same result). Winpilot recorded the name of the storage card a long with the place where it installed itself (most programs do the same thing)

You can change the name of the folder the newly inserted card is to be placed under if you modify the relevant registry key under the Storage manager, but if you do so you will probably stop all your other programs installed on any similar storage card from functioning (so only do this if you have no other solution).

Your best bet is to find the winpilot registry key referencing the faulty name, and correct that to "SD Card" (or whatever), or re-install Winpilot (but can you? ;^).

The only problem I see with WinPilot is that even version (...) is only for WM5 and not for WM6.

Except for the look, WM5 and WM6 are not really very different.

Ernest.

[normalitdunallegn]

I can't save new notes unless I opt to save them to Main Memory--if set to save to SD or CF, it will not save, or even close when hitting the OK button. The only way out is to delete the note, go to Options, and change save location to Main Memory.

[HappyMM]

I can't save new notes to SD or CF...

In fact, it can be saved into SD.
See the left upper corner to select the directory to save into.

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/1513/screen001se0.jpg

[cyberdude_pete]

3 minutes work.Page=126 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=325727&page=126)

JEV66, That was just a bit rude. Although it is easy to search a forum, sometimes a simple questions does deserve a simple, and polite, answer. I for one appreciate the fact that you did come back and show him where the answer was. It's curtious.

Please have a pleasent day :)

I'm sure turrumbi will now as well thanks to your assistance.

[hx4700 Killer]

As someone who has posted a complete solution to a problem on this thread and then every couple of days (pages) later I see "How do I....." and they are looking for the very answer I provided, I myself get irritated by the lack of self sufficiency of posters. Why is it that so many require spoon feeding? Personally I think it is a sign of age/maturity.
There are those that do and those that ask questions of those that do. Be someone who does and at the very least TRY first before asking.
/Rant off.
I’m not trying to be a jerk but I am just stunned at the lack of minimal effort by so many these days. I fear for the future.

[Philis]

As someone who has posted a complete solution to a problem on this thread and then every couple of days (pages) later I see "How do I....." and they are looking for the very answer I provided, I myself get irritated by the lack of self sufficiency of posters. Why is it that so many require spoon feeding? Personally I think it is a sign of age/maturity.
There are those that do and those that ask questions of those that do. Be someone who does and at the very least TRY first before asking.
/Rant off.
I’m not trying to be a jerk but I am just stunned at the lack of minimal effort by so many these days. I fear for the future.
Stupid me ... you are correct ... have made the search in this tread and found some intresting stuff about battery drain.
It has be something with the installation (wich I don't understand) ... in my case I used BOOTLOADER for fix3 ... and for fix 4 , I have used with the included prescription of Kozhoura.(another way of installation)
And now :confused:

[superduperben]

thanks happyMM 4 d headsup, nv did notice tat b4, guess now prob solved. but i though if we selected the sav 2 sd option, it will actually sav 2 sd instead of us mannually select where we wanna sav?

[HappyMM]

if we selected the sav 2 sd option, it will actually sav 2 sd instead of us mannually select where we wanna sav?

When you set new notes to save into SD Card, it does. But the default directory is at \SD Card\. Thus, if you use original file explorer, maybe you cannot see them. If you use resco explorer, you can see your new note at \SD Card\. After selecting the directory, you can save them into \SD Card\My Documents\ or others.

[jwy2k2]

The latency in fix 4 is no good for me, even after all the adjustments and a week of experimenting, it's just too slow. I did the clean reset, navpoint disable, all the sktools' built in tweaks in various combinations, tweaks2k2's built in tweaks, etc, etc, but it's still twitchy and doesn't respond in many different situations with the same speediness as before. I was happy with fix 3, which I'll go back to. The fastest so far IMO. (until we get 5 :) )
This is meant as constructive criticism, lest that need be said.
Thanks again Kozhura! Looking forward to the next fix, take your time.

[revived_hx4700]

I have to say kozhura did a heck of a job... My 4700 is up and running afte about an hour of work... from WM2003 to runnin' Rev 4.

I need some advice on WM6, though. I currently installed software I use most (PIM, TT, and the like) onto the device instead of onto the SD card. Was that a smart move?!?

I have 66MB of storage and 32MB of program space left, but still, sometimes the device seems to lag several seconds behind (noticed during BubbleBreaker :) ). (I already removed the NavPointService, as mentioned a few times already - and checked it's really gone.) I have never experienced such a lag on WM2003. :(

Anyone any hints??

(Looking forward to what kozhura has in store for us all - he sounds like he has something up his sleeve :D )

Thanx

[dpdurst]

I have to say kozhura did a heck of a job... My 4700 is up and running afte about an hour of work... from WM2003 to runnin' Rev 4.

I need some advice on WM6, though. I currently installed software I use most (PIM, TT, and the like) onto the device instead of onto the SD card. Was that a smart move?!?

I have 66MB of storage and 32MB of program space left, but still, sometimes the device seems to lag several seconds behind (noticed during BubbleBreaker :) ). (I already removed the NavPointService, as mentioned a few times already - and checked it's really gone.) I have never experienced such a lag on WM2003. :(

Anyone any hints??

(Looking forward to what kozhura has in store for us all - he sounds like he has something up his sleeve :D )

Thanx

I have found the installing most apps on my SD or CF card and installing stuff like updated today panel or launcher in the device works the best.

[revived_hx4700]

I have found the installing most apps on my SD or CF card and installing stuff like updated today panel or launcher in the device works the best.

Okay, I'll give that a try sometime...

But, more weirdness with WM6: my volume control doesn't work.
More precisely, the volume is always zero (but audio is 'On'). Therefore, no sound. :confused: Anyone else experiencing this?

I'm considering going to revision 3 of the ROM.
Sounds like it's more stable and responsive... Unless something else happens soon, of course... :D

Cheers.

[comtech2005]

Okay, I'll give that a try sometime...

But, more weirdness with WM6: my volume control doesn't work.
More precisely, the volume is always zero (but audio is 'On'). Therefore, no sound. :confused: Anyone else experiencing this?

I'm considering going to revision 3 of the ROM.
Sounds like it's more stable and responsive... Unless something else happens soon, of course... :D

Cheers.

Hello,

Maybe you must flash it again and give it another try, go for it!:)

Greetings, comtech2005.

[kobold_]

I tried to reflash my hx4700 with release 4, but when i start bootloader.exe after a few seconds I get an rar error message stateing nothing to extract.
Has anyone seen and possibla solved this issue?

[Wild Bill]

I tried to reflash my hx4700 with release 4, but when i start bootloader.exe after a few seconds I get an rar error message stateing nothing to extract.
Has anyone seen and possibla solved this issue?
I had this issue first time (did not 2nd or 3rd time) I first typed.. password BOOTLOADER (Theres a post in previous pages. THANKS) then the cmd.:.. lnb OS_WM6.nb0. This worked for me.( I assume you read Kozhuras read me txt)

[LITUSCC]

Hi guys!,
Any new regarding the full working SD slot for SDHC cards? ...
Is there any new path that works fine?

[alan sh]

I had the volume probliem with rev 3. Rev 4 has no issue. So, there may still be a bug left somewhere with a floating bit....

Anyone know about rev 5?

Alan

[kobold_]

I had this issue first time (did not 2nd or 3rd time) I first typed.. password BOOTLOADER (Theres a post in previous pages. THANKS) then the cmd.:.. lnb OS_WM6.nb0. This worked for me.( I assume you read Kozhuras read me txt)

Rapidshare did not provide me a copy of the readme file. :( I better search for it.

Thanks for the help.

[Wild Bill]

I D/Ld (mine) from rapid share,I use win-zip,its the last file. I believe some have also used Chrismrulz bootloader with success. Be nice to your fellow man, we all started somewhere and need help. Good Luck!

[Wolf_munich]

Earlier in this thread (page 105) a solution is available for APN. In WM6 it cannot entered directly. But there is an application available to enter the string into the registry

Wow, that's great, many, many thanks ! I just added the ADN modem string "AT+CGDCONT=1,"IP","APN of provider"<cr> in the registry with my Resco registry editor and now all works fine ! Many thanks to you all !

(I had trouble to find the right page as I tried the wrong words in the search function - so again many thanks for the hint !)

[Philis]

I have the sam experience (0% in one day), but with fix3.
But only one time.
Noticed the battery drain 0% in 1 day when NOT using the HX4700.(ok, sounds silly but sometimes I'm not using the pocket pc :D )
When activeted some program or calender or something else ... the HX4700 with WM6 fix 4 works fine ... no battery drain ;)
Will there be some solution (or something to prevent this battery drain) in a next version of Kozhoura ? :)
Many thanks in advance.

[denbagus]

Wow, that's great, many, many thanks ! I just added the ADN modem string "AT+CGDCONT=1,"IP","APN of provider"<cr> in the registry with my Resco registry editor and now all works fine ! Many thanks to you all !

(I had trouble to find the right page as I tried the wrong words in the search function - so again many thanks for the hint !)

Many thanks to kozhura,
I have upgrade my HX4700 with latest WM6ROM. All feature work perfect. Bluetooth, wifi and everything ok, when i make a connection with my w900, it can connected to gprs without extra dial number.

Now i try to make a connection between my CDMA cell phone and the PDA, it's work fine. But when i make a dial up connection, i need xtra string dial command. And My problem is the extra dial number is difference with GPRS setting, so i can't use "modemIS" to create them. the extra dial number command is "at+crm=1;+cso=33".

Before i use this latest rom version, i use wm5(kozhura version) too.
And all that problem not happened.

Maybe somebody can help me to solve and fix that problem.
Should i edit and modif the registry? but how??
I'm sorry if my english conversation so bad.

Many thanx to all.

[Ernestjwtk]

I'm considering going to revision 3 of the ROM.
Sounds like it's more stable and responsive... Unless something else happens soon, of course... :D

Cheers.

Do try rev 3 (or maybe 4). I had a lot of small problems with rev 2 as well, which all disappeared with revision 3.

I have not tried rev 4 though.

Ernest.

[cberenguel]

I also have upgrade my HX4700 with latest WM6ROM and seem that all feature work perfect, but i have a problem with excel mobile :confused:, it doesn´t run!!!!!.
i´ve try to search but i didn´t find nothing at all...

Somebody can helpme please?

Carlos

[stealth1]

Many thanks to kozhura,
I have upgrade my HX4700 with latest WM6ROM. All feature work perfect. Bluetooth, wifi and everything ok, when i make a connection with my w900, it can connected to gprs without extra dial number.

Now i try to make a connection between my CDMA cell phone and the PDA, it's work fine. But when i make a dial up connection, i need xtra string dial command. And My problem is the extra dial number is difference with GPRS setting, so i can't use "modemIS" to create them. the extra dial number command is "at+crm=1;+cso=33".



What does happen when you modify the string in registry (HKLM\Drivers\Unimodem\Init 3), after the sting entered with the tool.


So you will have: AT+CGDCONT=1,"IP","[APN of provider]"<cr>AT+crm=1;+cso=33<cr>

Or enter a 4th init string?

3 AT+CGDCONT=1,"IP","[APN of provider]"<cr>
4 AT+crm=1;+cso=33<cr>

Goodluck

[denbagus]

@stealth1
Amazing....
thank you so much....
everything perfect now.
Bluetooth, wifi, gprs, cdma.
All work perfectly.

[Hx4700_ITA]

Hello, wonderful rom ( i updated italian device 2003se with WM6 simply enter in boot mode and feed with the rom in the first message).

My question. in 2003se i used overclock program to set the speed the clock to the maximum (more or less 650 Mhz).
In this rom, the speed signed in the information panel is around 624Mhz.
It means only the maximum speed or the clock is working at that level?

Next question: nothing to do to improve the TomTom 6 speed in 4700 device?
the refreshing is not so fluid.....it it only my problem?( i know that this device is not "supported" for tomtom software.

bye at all.....thanks

[tom1807]

Next question: nothing to do to improve the TomTom 6 speed in 4700 device?
the refreshing is not so fluid.....it it only my problem?( i know that this device is not "supported" for tomtom software.

bye at all.....thanks

Who says that TT6 doesn't support WM6. In fact it works very good with this.
An important factor of the speed is how much POI's you enabled.
In fact, even when only 3 or 5 POI's are enabled, TT6 gets slower and lags.
I haven't enabled any POI in TT, only warning when approaching a POI, and the speed is very good.

Greetings
Tom

[naboo]

...maybe Kozhura is planning to implement this (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=344338) patch (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=344338)?? in his future release?

[evermore]

Searched this thread without finding this issue mentioned, but I apologize if I missed it.

I'm using fix 3 and am generally very pleased. There's one big problem, though. I was getting around 9 hours out of the standard battery on WM2003 SE (backlight at lowest setting and bluetooth and wifi off) with office type apps (excel, textmaker, etc.) as recently as a couple weeks ago. Since I switched to WM6, I've been getting roughly 4.5 hours. Even with no apps running, I notice that it is draining at roughly the same rate.

The TODAY plugins I'm running are Pocket Plus 4 and Spb Diary, but noticed the same battery issues before installing the plugins. Memmaid shows the following the processes running after a soft reset: gwes.exe (3.19 MB), device.exe (2.57 MB), shell32.exe (2.2 MB), fliesys.exe (2.2 MB), services.exe 219.67 kb) , conmgr.exe (103.71 kb), BTTrayCE.exe (39.9 kb), SafeMode.exe (23.9 kb), iPAQWireless.exe (7.81 kb) , NK.EXE (0 bytes).

(Though I've used BT and Wifi flawlessly with fix 3, I haven't used them enough to get a sense of battery drain rate with the radio(s) on.)

Anybody else having similar issues? Any ideas? Thanks very much.

Rob

[stealth1]

Next question: nothing to do to improve the TomTom 6 speed in 4700 device?
the refreshing is not so fluid.....it it only my problem?( i know that this device is not "supported" for tomtom software.

bye at all.....thanks


Increase the PagePool, you will see an increase of performance.

With 64MB ram, goto 8MB PP
With 128MB ram, goto 16MB pp

[Hx4700_ITA]

Who says that TT6 doesn't support WM6.

Greetings
Tom

thanks for answer....nobody tell that..i told tomtom software and hx4700 device. no certified device for tomtom.

with no poi on, the speed is not similar to an I-mate certified.

thanks, bye

[SuperJMN]

Is there any plan to release a version 5?

[cberenguel]

Pag. 153

Kozhura said:

"i`m preparing new ENGLISH ROM,and i`ll put it in the evening Moscow time (18.00 +3 GMT)

You will see a surprice

[pepeluu]

Increase the PagePool, you will see an increase of performance.

With 64MB ram, goto 8MB PP
With 128MB ram, goto 16MB pp

How can I increase page pool in rev 3 or rev 4?

[revived_hx4700]

Do try rev 3 (or maybe 4). I had a lot of small problems with rev 2 as well, which all disappeared with revision 3.

I have not tried rev 4 though.

Ernest.
I am in fact on Rev. 4...
I'm having some problems with the sound for one...
Did a hard reset and reinstalled - sound is back
Did another install of something new - sound gone...
There seems to be some random behaviour here...

Hopefully we'll get Rev 5, soon...

[PDAFreaker]

First post here ever.
First a big thanx to the developer Kozhura for this fine releases
My 4700 has never run so smooth

One problem though
I have the same problem as poster before me, with the sound setting
i goes to zero everytime....

But as it seems there will be a new upgrade soon
As Kozhura say's in his last post
So i will be patient and wait for that new release.

[khorlsghar]

Hi and thanks everybody, (first of all, Kozhura)!

I'm in the path right now...wondering if at least one of you all have the answer to this:

"Is it possible to dual boot WM6-Familiar Linux without any RAM loss issue?

Thx for your information and greetings from Spain! :)

[tuttoilmondo]

I tried to add a new appointment and it says database corrupted and i have the fix4 Rom.Can someone pls help??

I Too, help

[stefanhutu]

Can you confirm that this patch, makes an ipaq 4700 sdhc compatible? And have you tried it with a 8 gb sdhc?


...maybe Kozhura is planning to implement this (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=344338) patch (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=344338)?? in his future release?

[revived_hx4700]

Try searching Google for tomtom 6 problems with Bluetooth. I have not tested it yet, but to resolve this, you will need to hard-reset the device to restore the files (I tried replacing the files but it does not allow me, says they are in use.) then install a higher version of tomtom, 6.010 or 6.020, as long as it's not 6.000
Saltin!

No luck... Still happens with TT6.032!

Bluetooth problems remain... :(

[JEV66]

No luck... Still happens with TT6.032!

Bluetooth problems remain... :(

I'am running a Hx4700 with Windows Mobile 6 .0.7.0 Release 4 ENG and Tomtom 6.0.3.0. with an GlobalSat BT-338 Bluetooth GPS and have no problems at all.
The first thing I always try is TT with the Hx4700 after an ROM upgrade and it has worked ever since I tried Kozhura's WM6.

[happycorner]

I found 4GB SD (non-SDHC) card in my hometown (Hong Kong), it cost about USD 40. However, I didn't buy it yet. It is because I still looking forward to see informal SDHC support from our Brightest Kozhura.

If the upcoming ROM have SDHC, I will buy a 8GB SDHC directly, ha ha....

[Deorum]

One problem though
I have the same problem as poster before me, with the sound setting
i goes to zero everytime....


I too had a lot of these little problems (sound setting zero, a beep everytime I touched the screen) and they all came from the fact that I tried to restore all my programms from the backup I made from a former release. When I did a clean new install of all the programs. Everything worked just fine.

And for the bluetooth isue. You should delete the file BtCoreId.dll in the windows map. This file is put back automatically. The wrong file is 121K big while the right version is 112K. Try with your pda connected to your computer and with windows explorer if you can't delete it.
Success.

[PDAFreaker]

@Deorum

Thanx for the replay.

I did a new clean flash and installed my apps.
Sound seems to be okè but after trying to sync the HX4700 it freezes time after time in the processing fase.
Again a clean flash and after installing PIM app and TomTom, checked syncing and navigating.....its working. Then I installed all the other apps, seems to work flawlessly for now....and faster than wm2k3se !!!!!

Regards

[Toymanx]

As far as I know TT 6.032 is a version only for some HTC Device and not compatibel with other PPC.
Ver. 6.030 is workin perfect for me.

[Hx4700_ITA]

Increase the PagePool, you will see an increase of performance.

With 64MB ram, goto 8MB PP
With 128MB ram, goto 16MB pp

Really thanks....but I have not here my device..and I can't try to discovery how to modify that pp.
have you got a link for me?
I looked around but found only for cellphone.
thanks again

[stealth1]

Really thanks....but I have not here my device..and I can't try to discovery how to modify that pp.
have you got a link for me?
I looked around but found only for cellphone.
thanks again



Follow this link to change the Pagepool on a HX4700:

http://forum.brighthand.com/showthread.php?t=230392&highlight=PagePool

Regards

[Vampire6]

Hi,
first post ever.
Installed WM5 upgrade from HP. Some time after that I stumbled on this new rom, so I tried to install rev 4. Everything went ok. Then did a clean reset. It was freesing at the 'cleaning data, please wait' window. That's it. Can't do anything with it. What would you suggest? Thanks in advance!!

[jo_22]

I am using CE OS 5.2.1908 Build 18508.0.3.2 by Kozhura.

When I ant to use Wififorum SW i get error message:

loading of components did not succeed .net compact framework

any idea?

[jo_22]

I am using CE OS 5.2.1908 Build 18508.0.3.2 by Kozhura.

When I ant to use Wififorum SW i get error message:

loading of components did not succeed .net compact framework

any idea?

found the answer

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=0c1b0a88-59e2-4eba-a70e-4cd851c5fcc4&displaylang=en

[Rooki]

Vampire6, just reset it again (clean reset) or flash it.

[VulcanTourist]

No luck... Still happens with TT6.032!

Bluetooth problems remain... :(

I haven't dug back into this thread to see what problem description I missed, but I've been using Kozhura's WM6 rev. 4 ROM for a few weeks in my hx4700, and just this week installed TomTom 6.010 on it as well. I also happen to have a GlobalSat BT-338 GPS, as someone else mentioned, and I had no problem during initial tests... it found and communicated with the BT-338 just fine on the port I defined for it in the External GPS dialog. In fact he only GPS issues I've ever had were with sharing of the signal by two concurrent processes - which the GPSGate utility at least used to solve for WM2003SE - and sometimes needing to manually connect the GPS even though BT and GPS were both active and even paired (I thought pairing was supposed to guarantee they'd establish a connection on their own as warranted). It could be that the BT-338 is just that reliable? I can tell you I did a LOT of research before I chose it just about two years ago.

BTW, I haven't been holding my breath for the alluded-to SDHC patch, and just last week I finally bought my first SD card, the Transcend 150X 4GB model that had been reported compatible with the hx4700. I might wind up feeling kinda stupid if that patch actually materializes in the next week or two, because I could've done so much better to spend those same dollars on an SDHC card. Might have even got 8GB instead of just 4.

[naboo]

Follow this link to change the Pagepool on a HX4700:

http://forum.brighthand.com/showthread.php?t=230392&highlight=PagePool

Regards

hello,

did anyone flashed V4 8Mb PP? if so, any improvement in performance?

--
naboo

[VulcanTourist]

But when I started using the hx4700 I noticed that the flashing process did not entirely deleted the previous version. This resulted in a lot of double files in my programs folder.And a lot of programs were still installed but did not work properly. Today flashed back to fix 3 and all is smooth again.

What you describe is physically impossible, from what I understand of the way the flashing process occurs: it's a COMPLETE overwrite, not partial, every single time. How on earth would a few shortcuts in one single directory manage to survive the process? Are they artificially intelligent like Max Headroom, finding some electronic bomb shelter in the unit to weather the storm and trundle back out afterward? Why weren't there other files duplicated elsewhere? I flipped back and forth between WM2003SE and WM5 and WM6 nearly a half dozen times in the process of settling on this latest WM6 ROM, and never observed what you described. I certainly managed to cause some other odd troubles once I tried tweaking it and installing old and now-incompatible apps, but those odd troubles were my doing. I was being careless and not doing my homework.

You might want to triple-check your observations and reconsider your solution. If your claim was true, reverting to an earlier ROM rev. wouldn't fix anything, only make it worse. I would suggest you start over with rev. 4, and this time wait for a while before you restore any old backups or begin tweaking the dickens out of it. I'd bet a year's pay on you being the inadvertent cause of the problem, not the flashing process or Kozhura.

[ridolfo]

What you describe is physically impossible, from what I understand of the way the flashing process occurs: it's a COMPLETE overwrite, not partial, every single time.
Apparently it is entirely possible. I've experienced this too. From what I've understood, the revision 4 ROM is only the OS part. That's why it's so much smaller, and flashing is so much faster. In one of his posts Kozhura even mentioned that he succeeded in flashing only the OS, instead of the entire ROM (can't find that post right now).

[VulcanTourist]

Apparently it is entirely possible. I've experienced this too. From what I've understood, the revision 4 ROM is only the OS part. That's why it's so much smaller, and flashing is so much faster. In one of his posts Kozhura even mentioned that he succeeded in flashing only the OS, instead of the entire ROM (can't find that post right now).

Then isn't this indeed exactly why the "clean" reset is a required part of the process with this ROM, because the clean reset would in fact clear out the remainder not partitioned off for the OS? Assuming what you suggest is true (and not yet conceding that it is), perhaps the reason I wasn't experiencing this problem, then, is because I was performing clean resets?

If we're all burning the same ROMs on the same devices but only some people are encountering this problem, then the two groups must be doing things differently, either during the process or afterward. The "afterward" might be the clean resets that are said to be necessary with this ROM... and I've been doing them. Doesn't a clean reset zero everything in the ROM not partitioned off for the OS? Assuming what you suggest is true (and I'm not ready to concede it is), then might that be the deciding factor whether this problem appears or not? Something one of us is doing is different, because it ain't the ROMs and it ain't the iPAQs....

[Hx4700_ITA]

Well, i thought something easier than this procedure to increase page pool.
nothing to di in next implementation in new rom with soft mod directly from wm6?
:)

let me think for the future of my page pool.

really thanks anyway!
PS: italian did it? if yes, contact me!

[toricky2005]

Hi anybody know the rom can be use with ipaq2210? Thanks

[ctpuk]

Then isn't this indeed exactly why the "clean" reset is a required part of the process with this ROM, because the clean reset would in fact clear out the remainder not partitioned off for the OS? Assuming what you suggest is true (and not yet conceding that it is), perhaps the reason I wasn't experiencing this problem, then, is because I was performing clean resets?

If we're all burning the same ROMs on the same devices but only some people are encountering this problem, then the two groups must be doing things differently, either during the process or afterward. The "afterward" might be the clean resets that are said to be necessary with this ROM... and I've been doing them. Doesn't a clean reset zero everything in the ROM not partitioned off for the OS? Assuming what you suggest is true (and I'm not ready to concede it is), then might that be the deciding factor whether this problem appears or not? Something one of us is doing is different, because it ain't the ROMs and it ain't the iPAQs....

What ridolfo says is bang on actually.

My first flash of fix4 was 'over' Kozhura's WM5 rom. I didn't hard reset prior to flashing and at first boot of fix4, my wallpaper remained, as did installed apps, settings, etc. I did a hard reset and it 'became' vanilla WM6 Fix4.

My recommendation is to perform a hard reset (contacts+mail+reset hole, then press calendar), then install fix4, then hard reset again.

PS:

(and not yet conceding that it is)

I don't blame you for being slow to concede on this after betting a year's pay!

[lyger]

CLEAN RESET not HARD RESET, they are different...You must perform a CLEAN RESET after the ROM upgrade.

[lookflowers]

Hi , my HX4700 with WM6 fix 3 Kozhura has the standby of the death:

power off ( by software or by hardware buttom) and
after 15 minutes more or less, I can't turn on, only with soft reset.

If is in the cradle, turn on is ok ( with any buttom).

Any advice.

Thanks to Kozhura and Company from Spain.

[VulcanTourist]

As a bit of a return to the original topic, my comment in this MSDN WM blog about who does and doesn't get an "official" upgrade might be enjoyable for some:


http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2005/10/19/482683.aspx?CommentPosted=true#commentmessage

A snippet of it, with my comment at the end:

axim 4700 said:

bad experience with backdoor upgrades????? bwaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahhaha.. the only bad experience i ever had with my device was with its original os. neither hp nor microsoft ever managed to fix these issues and a "backdoor" upgrade made my device usable. tell the truth at least please. Microsoft arent bloating there allready overfull pockets when people use "backdoor" upgrades which is why you dislkie peolpe using them. finis
# September 29, 2007 7:17 PM

MikeCal said:

Microsoft doesn't charge its OEMs for Windows Mobile upgrades. Any incentive we have for disallowing unofficial upgrades is not tied to bloating our pockets.

Mike
# October 1, 2007 5:00 PM

mobileworm said:

I disagree with the entire blog post. As per my experience, "backdoor" upgrades are actually more stable than official OEM upgrades.

Take the official WM5 upgrade for Dell Axim X50V for example. Users paid for the upgrade but was given a lemon OS in return.

It literally rendered the device inutile. The device was so useless that Dell eventually offered a solution to rollback to WM2003SE.

And then somebody releases an unofficial WM6 upgrade. What's ironic is that the unofficial upgrade turned out to be faster and more stable than the official WM5 upgrade.
# November 18, 2007 12:47 PM

Vulcan Tourist said:

mobileworm said: "What's ironic is that the unofficial upgrade turned out to be faster and more stable than the official WM5 upgrade."

Hear, here! I'm using that "unofficial" upgrade he mentions, after wasting $40 and much time and lost productivity in 2006 on the "official" WM5 upgrade from HP.

When some LONE GUY in Russia is able to make better design, assemblage, packaging, and optimization choices than an entire TEAM at a deep-pocketed corporation like Hewlett Packard, you KNOW you've been fed lies. I was already a proponent of open-source everything (it's a lifestyle, a mental discipline), and this experience has just reinforced the principle. I have a hard time seeing it as "stealing"... I'm merely returning the disfavor and fraud committed against me in the first place.

[VulcanTourist]

What ridolfo says is bang on actually.

My first flash of fix4 was 'over' Kozhura's WM5 rom. I didn't hard reset prior to flashing and at first boot of fix4, my wallpaper remained, as did installed apps, settings, etc. I did a hard reset and it 'became' vanilla WM6 Fix4.

My recommendation is to perform a hard reset (contacts+mail+reset hole, then press calendar), then install fix4, then hard reset again.

I wasn't wrong: some people have been doing things differently and missing a step (and I was talking about what you called a "hard" reset), and that is apparently why they've encountered that problem when others haven't. So ultimately it wasn't the fault of the ROM-flashing process that the problem was encountered.

BTW, I never did a hard reset BEFORE flashing, only afterward, and still I never encountered this problem.

[Garfiel]

Hello
I've a problem. When I start to flash the room and I choose port "\\.\WCEUSBSH001" It says that can't open this port.
How can I do??
Thanks

[JEV66]

To flash the ROM I still use the Bootloader.
I used these instructions since I started with Kozhura's WM6 ROM's and they have not failed me in 3 ROM updates.

Step 1: Make a new folder in the root folder of your harddisk drive. make sure it has no spaces.
e.g. C:\BootLoader\
don't use something like C:\Boot Loader\ as it contains spaces.
* NOTE: Having spaces in the folder containing the rom file will cause an error to show because it can't send the file to the device.*


Step 2: Download the WM6 rom and any bootloader into the folder you just created in step one.
Rom: WM6_4700_0_7_0_FIXED.rar
BootLoader: BootLoader.exe.
* NOTE: Don't download them into another folder that has spaces, put them in the folder from step one.*

(Make sure Activesync is not running. Kill (END)the wcescomm.exe process in Windows Task Manager.)

Step 3: Put your hx4700 in bootloader mode by pressing ITASK+CONTACTS+RESET, And put it in the sync cradle.
(Initially it will show SERIAL on the screen but after you have put it in your cradle it will show USB)

* NOTE: It's best to charge your iPAQ or have power connected before you perform the rom upgrade.*

Step 4: Open the BootLoader.exe from the folder, and select the 'WM6_4700_0_7_0_FIXED.rar' file when it asks you to select a rom file.
It will automatically find and extract the nbf file, remove the header, close activesync, then start uploading it to your device.
* NOTE: You may need to put on a pot of coffee, it takes a while. It will show an error after uploading it, and stay in bootloader mode, but it will still work once you apply step 5.*


Step 5: Lastly, perform a clean reset by pressing CONTACTS + INBOX + RESET. When asked to confirm the clean reset press CALENDER.
* NOTE: You may need to soft reset before or after doing this. This step is required by all bootloaders. (Solnyshok’s mod etc.) Don't skip it or it will not boot up.*

Note: If using Windows Vista, You will need to install special drivers. A dialog box will prompt you to install them automatically if it detects you are running vista.

[Philis]

Still no news to prevent the battery drain using fix4 :confused:
Greetz, Philis.

[cagnaluia]

I just made the upgrade from wm5 to kozhura wm6 0.7.0R4....

very fine for five minuts... but next.. I tried to reset.. FREEZE

the hx4700 doesn't move from boot screen... :mad:


now I'm re-flashing with original wm5.... sing sing.. :(

wm6 was pretty like!

[VulcanTourist]

Battery drain? Do you have any suspicion what might be causing it? With the removal of the bad version of Dockware and the Persistent Storage (no data stored in RAM) and other changes, I would have thought it should be using less energy, not more. I haven't been able to gauge it with mine until the last few days because I had it mostly cradled whilst I tweaked and installed stuff, but I was starting to wonder if I was seeing faster than usual battery drain myself. I had chocked it up to the 2+ year old battery... how long do these Li-on batteries last, anyway? Right now it seems like my unit just dies when the battery reaches what appears to be 20% charge.

(I'd like to be able to get one of those Mugen batteries, but it seems they got out of the iPAQ battery business before I even knew they existed.:( )

[Philis]

Battery drain? Do you have any suspicion what might be causing it? .....
It's a strange issue, I charged the HX4700 with the cradle , full loaded , I take the HX4700 with me to my work ... several hours later I want to use the HX4700 and guess what , he's almost out off battery juice ... message low battery.
At home I recharge the HX4700 ... etc.
When using the ppc I can see a little power consumption (normal) ... he needs to be active time to time ... then he will not become out of power.
So, now, after charging with the cradle , I have to use the ppc for a while, otherwise when just remove it out of the cradle and put him away, I can have a battery drain to 0% :(
I have be looking for "background" running processes, cpu ussage ... nothing special.
A mystery:rolleyes:

btw, had no battery drain issues with old WM2003SE

[SuperJMN]

Here is happening, too.

The R4 has left me without battery 5 times. I don't remember if I left some app running in background, but I think that I did not.

[VulcanTourist]

Since I've got some WM6-tolerant navigation software installed now and I need to go to the grocery store tonight, I'll take it along and map out the trip with it and the GPS, and see what sort of battery drain that causes. Still, I'm not sure how to exclude the battery itself as the culprit, short of buying another one?

[JEV66]

Still no news to prevent the battery drain using fix4 :confused:
Greetz, Philis.

I do not know what you mean with battery drain.
I haven not had my Hx4700 on charge for about 4 days and it still has 95% battery left. Now do I have an 5000 mAh Mugen power battery :D but still it has not drained to much.:eek:

[dpdurst]

I have noticed with bluetooth on and GPS software battery goes pretty quick, I can dain 3/4 of the battery within an hour of constant GPS use. This is with the normal battery for the 4700.

[wawacha]

Here is happening, too.
The R4 has left me without battery 5 times. I don't remember if I left some app running in background, but I think that I did not.I had this happened to me, too. Turns out this was ActiveSync trying to network sync all day long. It's quite hard on the battery, as it wakes up the PDA. Look in your activesync options, there's a schedule setting there.

[VulcanTourist]

I do not know what you mean with battery drain.
I haven not had my Hx4700 on charge for about 4 days and it still has 95% battery left. Now do I have an 5000 mAh Mugen power battery :D but still it has not drained to much.:eek:

Your wrist and arm must get really tired hefting that, but I suppose it's good exercise for one arm, anyway... kinda like jerking off twenty times a day but much geekier. :D

[canglan]

And I use a 6200mAh battery which provides 10 hours continues video play back capability! :D

[bundleofjoy]

Here is happening, too.

The R4 has left me without battery 5 times. I don't remember if I left some app running in background, but I think that I did not.

could be related to setting of alarms, I think I read something that pointed into that direction on a russian forum (can't remember where though).

Worth a try (disabling alarms)...

[VulcanTourist]

And I use a 6200mAh battery which provides 10 hours continues video play back capability! :D

Who makes a battery of that capacity? And where did you find a charging cradle and vehicle mount that would fit the thing? :eek:

[Rooki]

Charging cradle and vehicle mount you can find it by www.brodit.com

[cagnaluia]

I just made the upgrade from wm5 to kozhura wm6 0.7.0R4....

very fine for five minuts... but next.. I tried to reset.. FREEZE

the hx4700 doesn't move from boot screen... :mad:


now I'm re-flashing with original wm5.... sing sing.. :(

wm6 was pretty like!


anybody may help me?

[lookflowers]

anybody may help me?

Have you "clear reset"?

[cagnaluia]

Have you "clear reset"?

how to?

i can try only soft reset...

how can i clear resetting?


edit:
maybe

http://h18004.www1.hp.com/products/ipaqmobile/images/hx4700_hard_reset.jpg

[lookflowers]

how to?

i can try only soft reset...

how can i clear resetting?

look at http://forum.brighthand.com/showthread.php?t=246529

clear reset is CONTACTS + INBOX + RESET. When asked to confirm the clean reset press CALENDER.

[cagnaluia]

look at http://forum.brighthand.com/showthread.php?t=246529

clear reset is CONTACTS + INBOX + RESET. When asked to confirm the clean reset press CALENDER.

fine!

now i'm testing stability..


bye

[Huck33]

i'm trying to imagine the hX4700 and Windows Vista Side show....

[tristramshandy]

Hi folks, haven't been here since I installed WM5 successfully (tks to chismrulz & kozhura!). Now, I tried to install the latest much hailed WM6 ,, error: 'no files to extract' there seem to be no files in ..\temp.nbf
I (think I ) did all the things described in the post that describes the procedure...
Anyone help?
Tks very much. I want my 4700 to run as fast as possible.

[cagnaluia]

Hi folks, haven't been here since I installed WM5 successfully (tks to chismrulz & kozhura!). Now, I tried to install the latest much hailed WM6 ,, error: 'no files to extract' there seem to be no files in ..\temp.nbf
I (think I ) did all the things described in the post that describes the procedure...
Anyone help?
Tks very much. I want my 4700 to run as fast as possible.

You must use the kozhura procedure... NO other guide... (i'm sure you are using a bootloader hp... eh? NO)
kozhura procedure in RAR pack on the first page... manually extract with.. i'm using 7ZIP... and read the README easy step ..


bye.. :)

[Philis]

could be related to setting of alarms, I think I read something that pointed into that direction on a russian forum (can't remember where though).

Worth a try (disabling alarms)...
Mabe a stupid question, but what do you mean with disable alarms ?
I only use some alarms for appoitments or tasks with Pocket Informant 2007 in combination with Pocket Breeze 5.3.04.
So, I can not turn them off ... otherwise I can not hear/see the alarms ;)

Other suggestions/help are always welcome ... as you can read on this forum it's not a standalone issue.
Greetz,
Philis.

[aristottle]

Hi Guys, just a note to let you know that WM6 has breathed new life into my Ipaq 4700. I had upgraded it previously to WM5, but had constant lockups and hangs,....it was much slower than 2003se, so I flashed it back....then lost all my data when the battery died....which was a HUGE pain, and one of the reasons that I had originally upgraded to WM5. So back I flashed to WM5 again...but still hangups, system locks, and generaly too slow to be useful...so the 4700 sat on my dresser for 6 months....until I saw the upgrade.

I installed it and WOW.....works fantastic....wifi worked right away.....the 4700 is incredible now.

Happy Camper!!!:D

[DavidinCT]

Any word on release 5 ?

[cagnaluia]

fine!

now i'm testing stability..


bye



FREEZE ... another.. after upgrading RESCO EXPLORER from 6.01 to 6.16/(17?)


!!!!! :( :(



edit: i'm trying to hard resetting by pressing contact+message+reset... "cleaning data, please wait..." but no move from this state.... no resetting possible... no backlight in the sreen...

[VulcanTourist]

Any word on release 5 ?

This thread is the Word... just check the first post on occasion. When Kozhura debuts it, he'll edit the first post to include it.

[canglan]

Who makes a battery of that capacity? And where did you find a charging cradle and vehicle mount that would fit the thing? :eek:

Well, I bought it when I was in China. I don't think the battery is being manufactured anywhere else unfortunately.

Here are some photos of the battery pack: http://picasaweb.google.com/canglan/IPAQHx47006200mAhBatteryPack

EDIT: The battery fits in standard cradle perfectly. :)

EDIT2: Oh by the way, the wallet-style case is bundled with the battery. ;)

[naboo]

Hello,

Just to let you know that I've been working with rel.4 tweaked to 8Mb Pagepool for some 2-3 days and I'd say switching to it was worth the try. The change in performace is maybe not that significant but the device gets more responsive and I haven't experienced any Standby's of death so far (btw. I applied ActiveSync tweak as instructed few posts back).
Previously I was experiencing lockups say once a day in avarage.

The link to tweak the firmware to 8Mb PP is here (http://forum.brighthand.com/showthread.php?t=230392&highlight=PagePool).

...and of course THANKS KOZHURA !!!

[VulcanTourist]

Well, I bought it when I was in China. I don't think the battery is being manufactured anywhere else unfortunately. Here are some photos of the battery pack: http://picasaweb.google.com/canglan/IPAQHx47006200mAhBatteryPack

The battery fits in standard cradle perfectly. Oh by the way, the wallet-style case is bundled with the battery. ;)

Damn, I want one! Now is the perfect time, too, because my original battery seems to be on its last legs... unit dies when the battery gets to 25% charge (and right now that only takes about two hours, whether because of that or this ROM). Searched Google for SpeedPower and that part number, but didn't come up with anything usable. :(

This should be my Christmas present....

[siwinoto]

Well, I bought it when I was in China. I don't think the battery is being manufactured anywhere else unfortunately.

Here are some photos of the battery pack: http://picasaweb.google.com/canglan/IPAQHx47006200mAhBatteryPack

EDIT: The battery fits in standard cradle perfectly. :)

EDIT2: Oh by the way, the wallet-style case is bundled with the battery. ;)

very interesting one's
but can I find in malaysia ?especially in KL
TIA
siwi n

[biglio]

hi

is there a way to save my rom with all my progs and registry
clean installed. (save it to nbf file)
so as i flash my hx4700 with all the prog are in the pocket
and well configured ???

so i can make differents rom with different pagepool value :)
without reinstaling all softwares ??? (there is an "s" to software ?? -> i'm french)

thanks for your help

[naboo]

hi

is there a way to save my rom with all my progs and registry
clean installed. (save it to nbf file)
so as i flash my hx4700 with all the prog are in the pocket
and well configured ???

so i can make differents rom with different pagepool value :)
without reinstaling all softwares ??? (there is an "s" to software ?? -> i'm french)

thanks for your help

I'd recommend backup-ing entire configuration using e.g. Sprite Backup. Then U can restore it on any pagepool you want.

Forget about putting software to firmware. It's a wrong way of doing what you want to do.

--
Naboo

[hx4700 Killer]

I would be wary of applying a backup after flashing. I know some people have experienced problems after restoring from backup. If you do it and things are not working well I would try hard reset and clean app installs.

[naboo]

I would be wary of applying a backup after flashing. I know some people have experienced problems after restoring from backup. If you do it and things are not working well I would try hard reset and clean app installs.

...maybe they've been making backups with a different software, but I recommend Sprite Backup, works like a charm

[okamiren]

You must use the kozhura procedure... NO other guide... (i'm sure you are using a bootloader hp... eh? NO)
kozhura procedure in RAR pack on the first page... manually extract with.. i'm using 7ZIP... and read the README easy step ..


bye.. :)

Hello to everybody

I'm new to this forun, so please forgive my intrusion.

I'm having the same problem as reported in Quote, plus no install working when following kozhura procedures in RAR pack :

1) by USB, once sent "lnb OS_WM6.nb0" on the mtty11a.exe, I just get a "USB>" prompt and nothing else happens

2) by SD, I do get an "OS.raw" file on hard disk, meaning that "Create_SD_ROM.bat" works, but "Write_SD_ROM_to_SD.bat" does not copy anything to SD Card (though deleting os.raw from hard disk)

Anybody has a clue of what happens ??
Cheers to all

[okamiren]

:cool:

Following former post, I got it installed through Bootloader, but extracting manually the .nb0 file from the .rar before running Bootloader.exe

Now going through a few discovery days, but so far looks great'n fast.
Many thanks to Kozhura for this neat job :)

Cheers

[VulcanTourist]

It's not at all necessary to manually extract the .NB0 file from a RAR or ZIP file. Bootloader.exe has its own integral decompression routines. It works just fine passing it the name of a RAR or ZIP file as a source file; it will open the file and find the NBF or NB0 file and extract it automatically. I have done it this way repeatedly, as have others with complete success.

[emiliocb]

Hi, I would like to know if Cash Organizer software works ok with this WM6 Rom.

Thank you

[jowong]

:eek: I am the one that got problem in battery drain,and still not find any solutions that fix it.
Need some suggestion?:confused:

[huysmki]

Is it possible to upgrade my hx4700 (WM5 bought from hp) to "Windows Mobile 6 .0.7.0 Release 4" directly? I tried the "flash from SD" steps mentioned in the readme.txt, but when my 4700 was in bootloader state, nothing happened. I tried to push the power button but no difference. Waited about 15 minutes. After a reset the pda started with WM5 again? Thanks in advance.

[VulcanTourist]

I don't know what you intend by "directly", but bootloader.exe is another option. It works directly with the RAR file that Kozhura provided, uses a TTY session with the PPC in bootloader mode to install a ROM from the PC.

[huysmki]

What I mean with directly is, do I need to install another version first. I saw that the rom-image in the 3th version is twice as big than in the 4th. Must I install version 3 first?
Thanks for the answer.

[cagnaluia]

bad experience!!

I purchased a HX4700 with wm5 onboard...

but...

1. WM5 , official HP releases is very bad ROM... very bad S.O... foots-make by HP....

2. WM6 kozhura... pretty ROM / pretty S.O... but.. no stable.. too crashes..

NOW i re-flash with WM2003SE... sob sob... :(

[Chemong]

What I mean with directly is, do I need to install another version first. I saw that the rom-image in the 3th version is twice as big than in the 4th. Must I install version 3 first?
Thanks for the answer.

Personally I would install the Fix 3 version. I had some problems with fix 4 and reverted. Fix 3 is easiest installed using the Chris's Bootloader.

[Chemong]

:eek: I am the one that got problem in battery drain,and still not find any solutions that fix it.
Need some suggestion?:confused:

Don't know if this will help, but with my hx4700 if I load software onto the SD card and leave it in the unit all the time or if I just leave an empty SD card in my hx4700 the battery drains very fast. This happened starting with the official HP wm5 and through to the latest Kozhura fix4. What works for me is I have a large CF card with all my applications and data in the unit all the time and only insert an SD card when I need to transfer or load a cab file. This gives me stellar battery performance.

[naboo]

2. WM6 kozhura... pretty ROM / pretty S.O... but.. no stable.. too crashes..

NOW i re-flash with WM2003SE... sob sob... :(

"crashes" ???
did You perform clean reset?
maybe there's something wrong with your hardware?

Kozhuras WM6 works very good and doesn't crash with any software I use or know.

--
naboo

[Casual User]

bad experience!!

I purchased a HX4700 with wm5 onboard...

but...

1. WM5 , official HP releases is very bad ROM... very bad S.O... foots-make by HP....

2. WM6 kozhura... pretty ROM / pretty S.O... but.. no stable.. too crashes..

NOW i re-flash with WM2003SE... sob sob... :(

I haven't had crashes with any of the WM6 roms, but I will admit that the WM5 AKU 3.5.2 rom runs more efficiently. The WM5 rom appears to use less memory than any of the WM6 roms, and it does file compaction less than WM6. I find myself pressing the soft reset button more often under WM6 than WM5 just to get back some more memory - memory that even SKTools won't return. The problem is that development for the WM5 AKU 3.5.2 rom appears to have been halted in favor of WM6. Here is the link to the original AKU 3.5.2 rom thread:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=311140

and this is a working link to the last version of the WM5 AKU 3.5.2 rom:

http://rapidshare.com/files/53815973/img-47840-WWE_AKU3_52_4700_150807.rar.html

If you don't want to use WM6 because you feel it is less stable then I would fall back to this version of WM5 rather than fall back to 2003SE. There is still file compaction - you just won't notice it as much.

If you decide to try WM5 AKU 3.5.2 then make sure you read the first post in that thread to download the HP RUU installer, or you can use the bootloader tool by chrismrulz (the best way to load the WM5 roms).

[biglio]

hello
i ve just flashed my ppc with fix3 rom modified to
put 8Mo pagepool .....but i have a question
how can i control that ther is really 8Mo pagepool
in my flashed ppc :):):confused:

thanks a lot

[Casual User]

hello
i ve just flashed my ppc with fix3 rom modified to
put 8Mo pagepool .....but i have a question
how can i control that ther is really 8Mo pagepool
in my flashed ppc :):):confused:

thanks a lot

You want visual confirmation that you indeed have a 8 MB pagepool?

Go to the first page of this post. You will notice some screenshots that kozhura put up. The first picture shows the About applet from Settings>System>About and it shows the memory as 57.84 MB. If you used a rom with a 8 MB pagepool instead of the 4.5 MB pagepool then you should notice that the memory is 3.5 MB less than 57.84 MB (something like 54.34 MB).

[Wolf_munich]

Earlier in this thread (page 105) a solution is available for APN. In WM6 it cannot entered directly. But there is an application available to enter the string into the registry


Wow, great support, many thanks for this help. Now it works all fine.
Just as confirmation for all others - yes this registry patch works fine. I patched it with Resco registry add in of Resco Explorer. So now all my software works fine with this latest WM6 as for example: TomTom Navigator 6, Avantgo, Mobipocket, Slovoed (several), GPS Tuner, WiFi internet, Opera 8.65, Resco Picture viewer, Math Tablet, Spacetime, Spb GPRS Monitor , Smenue Plus, Coreplayer, Pocketmusic, ...

Great !!! :)

[jowong]

Don't know if this will help, but with my hx4700 if I load software onto the SD card and leave it in the unit all the time or if I just leave an empty SD card in my hx4700 the battery drains very fast. This happened starting with the official HP wm5 and through to the latest Kozhura fix4. What works for me is I have a large CF card with all my applications and data in the unit all the time and only insert an SD card when I need to transfer or load a cab file. This gives me stellar battery performance.


:rolleyes: I plan to try first by remove SD card and see the battery run, if it work ,I will try CF install as you suggest.
Thanks.:D

[cagnaluia]

I haven't had crashes with any of the WM6 roms, but I will admit that the WM5 AKU 3.5.2 rom runs more efficiently. The WM5 rom appears to use less memory than any of the WM6 roms, and it does file compaction less than WM6. I find myself pressing the soft reset button more often under WM6 than WM5 just to get back some more memory - memory that even SKTools won't return. The problem is that development for the WM5 AKU 3.5.2 rom appears to have been halted in favor of WM6. Here is the link to the original AKU 3.5.2 rom thread:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=311140

and this is a working link to the last version of the WM5 AKU 3.5.2 rom:

http://rapidshare.com/files/53815973/img-47840-WWE_AKU3_52_4700_150807.rar.html

If you don't want to use WM6 because you feel it is less stable then I would fall back to this version of WM5 rather than fall back to 2003SE. There is still file compaction - you just won't notice it as much.

If you decide to try WM5 AKU 3.5.2 then make sure you read the first post in that thread to download the HP RUU installer, or you can use the bootloader tool by chrismrulz (the best way to load the WM5 roms).


very thanks... I want to try another time.. with wm6 and with wm5...

wm2003 is very fast but not really pretty and horrible memory menagement ...


what I can say you for hx4700 hardware characteristics/specs to valutate wm6 compatibility?

PS: yes I clean-resetting rom after install kozhura wm6 ....

[zwever]

hi Kozhura
I would appreciate to get your help because I'm unable to flash my hx4700's
ROM.This is what I did : downloaded the file/unpacked it in a folder on my
desktop. Then I've read the read me file. I prefer to flash the ROM from a SD
card. Ran reate SD ROM bat. A DOS window opened and after a while, a new
file (OS.raw 40.705KB) appeared in this folder. Then right click on the Write
SD ROM, edit,changed X to G(my SD Card) closed/saved the changes. Then
ran Write SD ROM. For a split second a DOS window appeared and the new
file OS.raw dissappeared.I waited a while but nothing was happening and when after 15' I checked my SD card, nothing was added to the contents.I re-
tried several times but without any succes. Wat am I missing ?? Your help/
comment would be highy appreciated. Jules.

[xunah]

try the usb flashing, it is very easy and probably safer than sd one

[cagnaluia]

very thanks... I want to try another time.. with wm6 and with wm5...

wm2003 is very fast but not really pretty and horrible memory menagement ...


what I can say you for hx4700 hardware characteristics/specs to valutate wm6 compatibility?

PS: yes I clean-resetting rom after install kozhura wm6 ....



reflashing wm6...

lnb OS_WM6.nb0
:F=OS_WM6.nb0
:A=80000000
:O=00040000
:L=FFFFFFFF


start NB image download

SH
Load ADDR: 80040000 Length: 27C0000


Programming flash blocks by serial port...

Flash ID = 89,8816
INTEL StrataFlash 256 Mbit Wireless MEMORY (L30/L18 Bottom type) found
Number of chip = 2, bus = 32
************************* **************
************************* ***************
************************* ***************
************************* ***************
************************* ***************
************************* ***************
************************* ***************
************************* **************

Done

Code entry point unknown


USB>


why "code entry point unknown" ???




well.. now clean-reset!

[pepeluu]

reflashing wm6...

lnb OS_WM6.nb0
:F=OS_WM6.nb0
:A=80000000
:O=00040000
:L=FFFFFFFF


start NB image download

SH
Load ADDR: 80040000 Length: 27C0000


Programming flash blocks by serial port...

Flash ID = 89,8816
INTEL StrataFlash 256 Mbit Wireless MEMORY (L30/L18 Bottom type) found
Number of chip = 2, bus = 32
************************* **************
************************* ***************
************************* ***************
************************* ***************
************************* ***************
************************* ***************
************************* ***************
************************* **************

Done

Code entry point unknown


USB>


why "code entry point unknown" ???




well.. now clean-reset!


That is what you should see. Everything is OK!!!

[rinuz]

I try to flash my hx4700 with this one..
But: mtty doesn't respond: I got the USB prompt, but after I enter lnb OS_WM6.nb0 it just gives back the usb prompt right away.

Trying to update using SD:
I cannot get it working... the writing to the sd-card seems to complete ok:
NTRW v2.00
Removeable media
Cylinders: 0:250
TracksPerCylinder: 255
SectorsPerTrack: 63
BytesPerSector: 512
bufsize is 65536
41681408 bytes written

but after I enter in bootloader mode, I press power all the time, but it doesn't do anything...

Any help?

Regards

[ConkersM9]

Thanks for this upgrade, my 4700 was grinding to a halt whenever I used Pocket Phojo, now the pictures will edit easily and I've not had any lockups or poor performance.
Once again, many thanks

[kozhura]

Dear friends sorry,because i`ve killed maybe my 4700:( :( :(
I tryed to recovery him and waiting when backup battery becomes 0 persent,and then i`ll try to flash him again:(

[pepeluu]

Dear friends sorry,because i`ve killed maybe my 4700:( :( :(
I tryed to recovery him and waiting when backup battery becomes 0 persent,and then i`ll try to flash him again:(

Sorry man, but your 4700 is lucky: there is noboy better to revive it!!

Let us know how it goes. we will keep our fingers crossed!!

[Chemong]

Dear friends sorry,because i`ve killed maybe my 4700:( :( :(
I tryed to recovery him and waiting when backup battery becomes 0 persent,and then i`ll try to flash him again:(

Sounds like someone needs to dig out one of their spare hx4700's and donate to the cause!

[bobgreen]

I'm sorry for that news.....:(
Does it mean that your 4700's bootloader is not working?

I've tried the release4 and the old fix3 edition.
But both cause a problem, sometime when I reboot my 4700, it stops at the boot screen. What I can do is to plug out my battery and plug in it again.

I edited the rom's page pool to 0MB. Maybe that's because of the PP?
My 4700's ram is 64MB. I know another friend's 4700's ram is 128MB and he use fix3 rom with 0MB PP is OK.

I've searched about this problem and find out this is not only one case.
Many users who use wm6 rom may have this problem.

I don't know what causes the problem and whether it can be solved?

[kozhura]

Well i don`t know what can i do,tomorrow i`ll go to the Service Centre and try to recover 4700 using other battery:(

[VulcanTourist]

Don't know if this will help, but with my hx4700 if I load software onto the SD card and leave it in the unit all the time or if I just leave an empty SD card in my hx4700 the battery drains very fast. This happened starting with the official HP wm5 and through to the latest Kozhura fix4. What works for me is I have a large CF card with all my applications and data in the unit all the time and only insert an SD card when I need to transfer or load a cab file. This gives me stellar battery performance.

So you're saying that having any SD card inserted in an hx4700 will drain the battery at a faster rate? Given that SD is Flash that isn't supposed to require power to sustain, why on earth would that be true? Is this just your observation or are there wider reports to verify it?

Having a correct answer is very important, because my battery drain has skyrocketed and I need to know whether the culprit is this WM6 ROM or the new Transcend 150X 4GB SD card I just bought. I had intended to stop using my slow old Hitachi 4GB CF microdrive (and leave the CF slot free for add-on devices), but if this SD card is a power-sucker then it's getting returned!

[VulcanTourist]

What I mean with directly is, do I need to install another version first. I saw that the rom-image in the 3th version is twice as big than in the 4th. Must I install version 3 first?
Thanks for the answer.

No, this is not an "upgrade" ROM... none of them are! The reason for the change in size is because the rev. 4 ROM uses an .nb0 file, which I gather is a more compact format; in terms of what actually gets burned it's probably larger. You can burn any ROM over any other directly, though I've heard a claim from one guy that if a new ROM is smaller than the previous one that "stuff" might be left behind; I still think that's silly, but his claimed solution was to clean/hard-reset the device both after AND BEFORE burning a new ROM, allegedly to clean it out so that there's nothing to leave behind. It's a trivial step, so it can't hurt to be a little superstitious, I guess. Toss a pinch of salt over your shoulder while you're at it. :p

[VulcanTourist]

Dear friends sorry,because i`ve killed maybe my 4700:( :( :(
I tryed to recovery him and waiting when backup battery becomes 0 persent,and then i`ll try to flash him again:(

What happened? Was it a bad ROM burn? Isn't the bootloader code separate, so you can just burn again? Is it possible you've "worn out" the internal flash, exceeded its write MTBF, or did something else entirely happen, like a failed backup battery?

[JEV66]

What happened? Was it a bad ROM burn? Isn't the bootloader code separate, so you can just burn again? Is it possible you've "worn out" the internal flash, exceeded its write MTBF, or did something else entirely happen, like a failed backup battery?

The MTBF for that battery is something of 1.000.000 hours. (Exagerated:p )
I think he tried to flash with an empty battery. HAlfway the flash battery death. Flash upset,:eek: Hx4700 DEATH

[VulcanTourist]

The MTBF for that battery is something of 1.000.000 hours. (Exagerated:p )
I think he tried to flash with an empty battery. HAlfway the flash battery death. Flash upset,:eek: Hx4700 DEATH

Actually, I was talking about the MTBF of the flash ROM itself, not the battery; the flash ROM has an indeterminate limit how many times the cells can be re-written. The MSDN blog guessed it might 1,000,000 writes and many years of "normal" service, but for we power users that day might come much sooner. I hope it really is just a dead battery and not that he fatigued his flash ROM.

Having the battery fail during a ROM burn doesn't really kill the unit, does it? Isn't the bootloader code unaffected by the ROM burn, or is it actually part of it? Isn't it as simple as popping in a new battery and re-burning? (Sorry I'm using the old EPROM lingo, I just can't help it.)

[sanjay1951]

Well i don`t know what can i do,tomorrow i`ll go to the Service Centre and try to recover 4700 using other battery:(

Kozhura, I would gladly send you a 4700 if I had a spare but I only have one. I do have a spare battery though. If you need it I would be happy to send it. You can send me a message if you would like it.

Thank you for all you've done and are doing.

[VulcanTourist]

Actually, there was a guy who popped up in the pocketpcthoughts.com discussion of kozhura's ROMs (actually I think it was a review of them), and he claimed to have an hx4700 gathering dust in a drawer! :eek:

I'm gonna go track down that thread and user. Maybe he'll box it up and send it off to Kozhura.

[MeanSquare]

I had the same thing happen to me when I switched from my 64MB hx4700 to my 128MB hx4700, but I'm pretty sure it had to do with my restoring a backup from the first to the second after doing the ROM update. I actually bought a new backup battery from PPC Techs, put it in, and was fuming when it too read 0%. I finally did a hard-reset (clearing all) and all of a sudden, my backup batter started charging. (Weird). The end of the story is that I ditched the backup and installed my software from scratch. The unit is working fine and my backup battery is at 100%.

I don't know why restoring a backup from one WM6 hx4700 to another that had just been flashed to WM6 would do that, but it seems to be the case. I can only hope that your situation is similar. It's a time-consuming fix, but at least it can be fixed.

[jlensbo]

Does anyone know where to download the Windows Mobile 6 Classic... the real thing? I've read that it was available from Microsoft for free, but on their website I only see a demo of it.

Where can I get it???

Thanx!

[MeanSquare]

I've got the exact same card in my hx4700 and it's not draining the battery at an accelerated rate.

So you're saying that having any SD card inserted in an hx4700 will drain the battery at a faster rate? Given that SD is Flash that isn't supposed to require power to sustain, why on earth would that be true? Is this just your observation or are there wider reports to verify it?

Having a correct answer is very important, because my battery drain has skyrocketed and I need to know whether the culprit is this WM6 ROM or the new Transcend 150X 4GB SD card I just bought. I had intended to stop using my slow old Hitachi 4GB CF microdrive (and leave the CF slot free for add-on devices), but if this SD card is a power-sucker then it's getting returned!

[bobgreen]

So you're saying that having any SD card inserted in an hx4700 will drain the battery at a faster rate? Given that SD is Flash that isn't supposed to require power to sustain, why on earth would that be true? Is this just your observation or are there wider reports to verify it?

Having a correct answer is very important, because my battery drain has skyrocketed and I need to know whether the culprit is this WM6 ROM or the new Transcend 150X 4GB SD card I just bought. I had intended to stop using my slow old Hitachi 4GB CF microdrive (and leave the CF slot free for add-on devices), but if this SD card is a power-sucker then it's getting returned!
.......
Do you know the SD slot's use will cost more battery?

[VulcanTourist]

Does anyone know where to download the Windows Mobile 6 Classic... the real thing? I've read that it was available from Microsoft for free, but on their website I only see a demo of it. Where can I get it???
That isn't possible. Microsoft can't offer you a pre-packaged ROM download suitable for any device. Think this through! Microsoft OEMs it to the hardware producers, who then produce usable ROMs. Or not usable, in the case of HP and WM5.

What you probably heard, and misunderstood, was that Microsoft is offering a free version 6.1 UPGRADE for OFFICE Mobile 6. (Which BTW won't work unless you already have OM6 installed.)

I've got the exact same card in my hx4700 and it's not draining the battery at an accelerated rate.
Well I wonder what the heck is doing it, then? Maybe this battery really is toast. I haven't had a backup battery problem, though I did restore a partial previous WM6 backup after that WSOD incident. I believe the battery drain preceded that in any case. What I need is another known-good battery to rule some things out.

[Wild Bill]

Dear fellow users,

These are the Best ROMs availible, Show your support for this man,I also dont like paying to send money,but,dont have a better option.You buy software for your Hx4700, its aprox. (depending on exchange rates) US $15 to get a star (didnt like these in school either)many Banks have PayPal and you can create your own account. Ladies and Gentilemen, how about a star?Your mentor could use a little help and it takes less than most programs cost. Just my 2 cents,but, these ROMs keep us going and are worth far more than most programs. Money is tough to earn and every little bit helps. Thanks for reading this and try to send something.

[Philis]

Dear fellow users,

These are the Best ROMs availible, Show your support for this man,I also dont like paying to send money,but,dont have a better option.You buy software for your Hx4700, its aprox. (depending on exchange rates) US $15 to get a star (didnt like these in school either)many Banks have PayPal and you can create your own account. Ladies and Gentilemen, how about a star?Your mentor could use a little help and it takes less than most programs cost. Just my 2 cents,but, these ROMs keep us going and are worth far more than most programs. Money is tough to earn and every little bit helps. Thanks for reading this and try to send something.
+1
Only this , I have a Paypal account but can't find a direct link to a Kozhura account :(
The link at his first post is some kind of exchange bank , or something like that ...not easy to understand (maybe the language , I speak Dutch ?)
So, please Kozhura send us your "direct" link to Paypal ... help is on his way ;)

[lyger]

To solve your battery draining issues search for the following value in the registry 'DisablePowerManagement' and change the data from 1 to 0 on all results.

[VulcanTourist]

Don't listen to Wild Bill... he isn't thinking this through: sending Kozhura any "donation" is a BAD idea, not for us but for Kozhura! Since, legally, cooking ROMs violates numerous intellectual property laws, what Kozhura is doing is technically illegal, at least in the EU and USA, where all that IP originated. If we send Kozhura money and he profits monetarily from his efforts, it will (a) make it more likely that someone will arrest or sue him, and (b) make him look far guiltier and have no moral much less legal defense.

Sure, I wish we lived in an open source Borg-like world, but we don't... yet. We still live in a world dominated by greed and selfishness that manifests itself as intellectual property and inheritance laws, among other things.

If you send Kozhura money, you are endangering him and making his situation more precarious, not less. Think about it, and then thank Kozhura as effusively as you can muster, but DON'T call Western Union.

[siwinoto]

i can only pray..............
hope the baby of Kozhura going back again....
if you live in my country, i give my baby to you
GBU

[Philis]

To solve your battery draining issues search for the following value in the registry 'DisablePowerManagement' and change the data from 1 to 0 on all results.
OK, done. (reset needed ?)
Hope it's working :)
Btw, can you tell us what those registry entries do or mean for the system?
Manny Thankx.

[sanjay1951]

Don't listen to Wild Bill... he isn't thinking this through: sending Kozhura any "donation" is a BAD idea, not for us but for Kozhura! Since, legally, cooking ROMs violates numerous intellectual property laws, what Kozhura is doing is technically illegal, at least in the EU and USA, where all that IP originated. If we send Kozhura money and he profits monetarily from his efforts, it will (a) make it more likely that someone will arrest or sue him, and (b) make him look far guiltier and have no moral much less legal defense.

Sure, I wish we lived in an open source Borg-like world, but we don't... yet. We still live in a world dominated by greed and selfishness that manifests itself as intellectual property and inheritance laws, among other things.

If you send Kozhura money, you are endangering him and making his situation more precarious, not less. Think about it, and then thank Kozhura as effusively as you can muster, but DON'T call Western Union.

Sorry Vulcantourist, but I have to agree with Wild Bill. I'm sure that Kozhura know what's best for him better than us. So I don't think we need to worry about him.

This entire web-site (along with hundreds of others) is devoted to user based development just like what Kozhura is doing. All of it is user funded. Would you suggest that this is all wrong? I for one, would all have gladly bought WM6 ROMs from HP if they offered it, but this device is considered "obsolete" and is not supported.

Kozhura is one of many developers on this web-site. He has given new life to the 4700. He has spent considerable effort and his own time to help us all. Especially for an "obsolete" device, where there is no other option, it doesn't seem wrong for those who like what Kozhura is doing to reward him for his time and effort.

Kozhura is not selling anything. I do not believe he is looking for fame and riches. If someone wants to send him some money to show their appreciation and to reward him for his time, there is nothing wrong with that - IMHO. I might also suggest that this type of user based development is a healthy thing for the industry that nurtures ideas for better "official" software. However, if someone believes that Kozhura's development is inappropriate, they always have the option to NOT use his work - or that of the hundreds of other wonderful developers on this site or others.

Philis is right though. The exchange web site that somehow exchanges PayPal to WebMoney seems pretty complex to use. Also seems to have a hefty service charge. I think I speak for hundreds when I say THANK YOU Kozhura! And get a PayPal account please!:)

[Chemong]

So you're saying that having any SD card inserted in an hx4700 will drain the battery at a faster rate? Given that SD is Flash that isn't supposed to require power to sustain, why on earth would that be true? Is this just your observation or are there wider reports to verify it?

Having a correct answer is very important, because my battery drain has skyrocketed and I need to know whether the culprit is this WM6 ROM or the new Transcend 150X 4GB SD card I just bought. I had intended to stop using my slow old Hitachi 4GB CF microdrive (and leave the CF slot free for add-on devices), but if this SD card is a power-sucker then it's getting returned!


As I think I said earlier, shorter battery life with SD inserted is simply my observation. I think there was a series of discussions for a few other Ipaq models, but I'm not sure.

[hx4700 Killer]

I have a tendency to agree with Sanjay here. This is a person who we would be giving money to for his time and efforts, not for a ROM. If HP went after him I would be one of the first in line sending their CEO a nasty-gram explaining that they abandoned those of us who adopted what is, IMHO, one of the best PPC's ever made. If they choose to persecute one of the few who have resurrected it then I would hit them where it counts and make sure to tell them they have lost customers.

HP punted and released one of the most half-assed ROM’s in the history of PPC’s. They may be done with this PPC but we are not and thanks to Khozura and others I actually enjoy using my PPC again.

[kounkhmer2269]

Hi all!

I'm still deciding whether I should use WM 6.03.2. release 3 or WM 63.07.0 release 4, although I understand that there are some issues with the release 4; also, should I use the release 3 to be on the safe side.

Thanks for your help!


Anthony:confused:

[vimesUK]

Hi all!

I'm still deciding whether I should use WM 6.03.2. release 3 or WM 63.07.0 release 4, although I understand that there are some issues with the release 4; also, should I use the release 3 to be on the safe side.

Thanks for your help!


Anthony:confused:

To give you a definitive answer...

Load the first ROM and try it out in how you use your PDA.

Then load the second ROM and do the same.

It really is the only way that you will know for sure which one works best for you :)

[Huck33]

Hi all!

I'm still deciding whether I should use WM 6.03.2. release 3 or WM 63.07.0 release 4, although I understand that there are some issues with the release 4; also, should I use the release 3 to be on the safe side.

Thanks for your help!


Anthony:confused:

i don't have any issue with release 4
some strange things happened with release 3, with wifi for example
try release 3 and try release 4 and choose the one you think is the better one
One thing sure is that these ROM are wonderfull and my hx come back to life

[kounkhmer2269]

Thanks all!

I will og ahead and give it a try.

Again, thanks for your suggestions.


Anthony:)

[ZinFab]

Anyone have problems with wifi with release 4?

Also any news on the next release and kozhura's (dead) ipaq?

I went from WM5 (legit dead sslllloooowwww ver) to rel 4 everything works (except wifi) including Garmin XT.

kounkhmer2269 flash it, it's well worth it!

[andieh]

Hi there!

Thank you very much for this nice rom! i installed rev3 and it works very good!
i have 3 questions so far. maybe some of them are answered before, but here are so many answers in this thread, so i cant find them! and searching in one thread did not work for me!

1) i tried to installe a certificate, but wm6 only tells me, that it cant be installed. i should restart the device and try again, but it did not work. is this a problem of this rom here?

2) the ipaq comes with an ipaq recovery and backup tool. can i download this anywhere? i want to backup my files before updating to wm6 rev4. or are there any other tools / options to do so? i dont want to install my hole programs again!

3) with wm2003 i had a nice tool, showing me free space, and other nice informations on the today screen. anyone knows the name of this little program?

thank you so much! and again i thank you a lot for this wonderful rom!

andieh

[hx4700 Killer]

Andieh,

1) search this thread for my posts and you will find one that I detail how to install a certificate. It involves using WM5 either on this PPC or another one and exporting registry entries.

2) There are several options for backing up. If you only want to do this for moving to the new ROM then just use a full featured trial version. I believe several people have recommended some on this thread so again, search the thread.

3) I use Phudong PBAR for those status values. There are others. THe one in 2003 was called Today Panel. I forget who made it.

[andieh]

hi!

thank you for your post!
i have to be logged in to search in one thread!

i remember me about this post how to install a certificate. but i did not have wm5. maybe someone of you with the option to import my cab file can pm me, please!

[morays]

HHHEEELLLPPP!!!

I am pulling what little hair I have left out!

I have tried the upgrade from WM2003 to WM6 using both techniques mentioned in the RAR file. If I use the mtty11a method it just sits there with the dim bootloader screen doing nothing.
If I use the SD card method I get the same thing i.e. after I put the SD card in and go into bootloader mode and then "press power", the screen shows nothing but the dim bootloader screen, no progress bar nothing.
Please tell me what I am doing wrong as I REALLY want to get my iPAQ up to date and I have heard nothing but good about this ROM.

[pepeluu]

HHHEEELLLPPP!!!

I am pulling what little hair I have left out!

I have tried the upgrade from WM2003 to WM6 using both techniques mentioned in the RAR file. If I use the mtty11a method it just sits there with the dim bootloader screen doing nothing.
If I use the SD card method I get the same thing i.e. after I put the SD card in and go into bootloader mode and then "press power", the screen shows nothing but the dim bootloader screen, no progress bar nothing.
Please tell me what I am doing wrong as I REALLY want to get my iPAQ up to date and I have heard nothing but good about this ROM.

One thing many people have had problems with is that in mtty11a you have to TYPE the name of the file "lnb OS_WM6.nb0" You cannot PASTE it.

Otherwise it should go smooth as silk.

[morays]

pepeluu,

Thanks for the quick response. I tried typing in the command with no success. Do you know of anyone who has successfully upgraded using the SD card method?

[JEV66]

Please to upgrade to wm6 download Bootloader.exe (http://www.freetrafficsite.com/BootLoader.exe)
After that follow the upgrade instructions as written down HERE (http://wm6.flyingarizona.net/instructions.txt).
You can also download wm6 version HP iPAQ PPC Hx4700 WM6 Rom - 6.0.7.0 Rel 4 ENG - 11/9/07 and HP iPAQ PPC Hx4700 WM6 Rom - 6.0.7.0 fix 3 HERE (http://wm6.flyingarizona.net/).

Good luck.

Please read the text file and follow it carefully.

[pepeluu]

pepeluu,

Thanks for the quick response. I tried typing in the command with no success. Do you know of anyone who has successfully upgraded using the SD card method?

I´m afraid the short answer is "no".

However, it surprises me that you have problems flashing the ROM "the other way". It was VERY easy for me. Maybe you should start from scratch with a printed copy of the README in your hand and follow it EXACTLY:

1.In processes (CTRL+ALT+DEL) you must kill Wcesscom.exe
2.Then Enter in Bootloader (Contacts+iTask+Reset)
3.Put your device on usb cradle.
4.Run mtty11a.exe
5.In "Port" choose \\.\WCEUSBSH001 and click OK
6.Write command: lnb OS_WM6.nb0
7.Wait
8.Enjoy yourself :)

[morays]

Looks like it was a collection of issues. When I tried it last night I was at home on Vista which does not run the wcesscom process but I think the ROM was corrupt as the bootloader did not find a valid file.
I am now trying it at work on XP SP2 and so I fofgot to stop wcesscom as I had not needed to last night.
All looks as though it is running now. Thanks again for all the help.

[ctpuk]

Any news on Kozhura's 4700?

I hope he's managed to unbrick it.

All the best Kozhura, mate. Your work is superb and you're a legend! Please get a paypal account. I think that so many more people would send you money.

[ctpuk]

There are a good number of posts about problems with fix4... wi-fi, etc.

It's so important to clean reset after flashing (contacts, inbox + reset hole then calendar to confirm). I think you'll find this eliminates most issues... it did for me after my first bodged attempt at flashing fix4 on my 4700 with Kozhura's wm5 aku 3.5.2 rom installed.

[bobgreen]

Andieh
The tool you need may be TodayPanel,try it.
I'm using V2.20 in my wm6.

[Philis]

To solve your battery draining issues search for the following value in the registry 'DisablePowerManagement' and change the data from 1 to 0 on all results.
Nope , does not work ... charged yesterday evening ... battery 100% ... out off cradle ... this morning 0% juice :(

[JEV66]

Nope , does not work ... charged yesterday evening ... battery 100% ... out off cradle ... this morning 0% juice :(

Then I would say buy another battery.:eek: It looks like this one is broken.:(
I have an sd and a cf card in my Hx4700 and after 1 week still 95% battery left. It's a big battery yes but with a normal battery I expect a drain after 1 week of about 20% (so 80% left.)

[Philis]

Then I would say buy another battery.:eek: It looks like this one is broken.:(
I have an sd and a cf card in my Hx4700 and after 1 week still 95% battery left. It's a big battery yes but with a normal battery I expect a drain after 1 week of about 20% (so 80% left.)
off topic : is there a way (software) to check it out if the battery is broken?
I'm not sure if it's broken ... heavy powerconsumption like mp3 or video clips seems to give a normal power drain.

[Ernestjwtk]

But when I started using the hx4700 I noticed that the flashing process did not entirely deleted the previous version. This resulted in a lot of double files in my programs folder.And a lot of programs were still installed but did not work properly. Today flashed back to fix 3 and all is smooth again.


Mayhap thou hast forgotten Law number 5 of the holy installation guide ?

See: http://wm6.flyingarizona.net/instructions.txt

[andieh]

Andieh
The tool you need may be TodayPanel,try it.
I'm using V2.20 in my wm6.

thank you, bobgreen. its exactly the one i'm searching!

but i have another problem: i installed wm6 rev3 3 weeks ago after i get my hx4700. it was great, no big problems. now i tested rev4 since yesterday and my ipaq feels like a slow brick.
media player frequently make breaks for 2-3 seconds, also tcpmp with video files like avi or flv video. i can't make it out why this happens. lags only while playing mp3 files. the ipaq has more than 600 mhz of cpu power!

ok, i have some of this stops with rev3 too, but not that much. i tried much software and only have 23,44 mb free storage and 31,46 mb free program space. but those lags are also directly after softresetting.

any approaches for this behaviour? or are there any speed up utillities for wm?

[hole-in-one]

hi guys,
as a newbee at this forum, i read allmost whole thread but didn't get an answer.

Right now I have installed WM5 aku 3.5.2 and want to upgrade to kozhura's great WM6.

But bringing ipaq to bootloader mode my pc will recognize ipaq just as an unknown device and a connection with mtty is not possible (wcescomm is killed).

After soft reset ipaq starts again with wm5 and connection with pc is established as supposed.

Any ideas?

Thks,

hole-in-one

[ZinFab]

hi guys,
as a newbee at this forum, i read allmost whole thread but didn't get an answer.

Right now I have installed WM5 aku 3.5.2 and want to upgrade to kozhura's great WM6.

But bringing ipaq to bootloader mode my pc will recognize ipaq just as an unknown device and a connection with mtty is not possible (wcescomm is killed).

After soft reset ipaq starts again with wm5 and connection with pc is established as supposed.

Any ideas?

Thks,

hole-in-one

Hi hole-in-one

I downloaded the bootloader program from here and substituted the rom for Kozhura's worked like a charm...

http://forum.brighthand.com/showthread.php?t=226521

Maybe give it a try

[bobgreen]

andieh:
I also feel a little slow with the R4 version. I'm now using fix3 version with 0MB pagepool(I edit the rom file with UltraEdit) because some friends say that fix3 is better.
If the page pool is 0MB, your 4700 will fly~ No matter the rom is fix3 or R4.

[hx4700 Killer]

What do you lose by setting the page pool to zero? If making it that much faster is really that easy Im sure others would have done it already. There must be a penalty somewhere.

[bobgreen]

What do you lose by setting the page pool to zero? If making it that much faster is really that easy Im sure others would have done it already. There must be a penalty somewhere.
I think there are already many 4700 users using 0MB pagepool rom.
I post one rom with 0MB PP in a Chinese forum, and many users download and use it.
The only lose is: the ram will be used much faster.
But when there is less than 10MB(more or less than 10MB, my 4700's ram is 64MB, not 128MB), some ram will be released and there will be about 20MB free.
So the ram's highly cost is not a problem.

[stealth1]

What do you lose by setting the page pool to zero? If making it that much faster is really that easy Im sure others would have done it already. There must be a penalty somewhere.

I guess the Page pool is needed, and problems will occur once the amount of available RAM is unsufficient....


......
If you don't have a Page Pool, this code is loaded into normal RAM. The Page Pool is a mechanism to limit how much code is loaded into normal RAM. With a Page Pool, we can unload code that hasn't been used in a while and reload it later if we need to. We can't do that without a Page Pool.



Source: http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2005/11/17/494177.aspx


The paging pool is a reserved block of RAM that for holding pages of code. If the paging pool is not enabled, the entire RAM on the device is available for paging, which can drastically increase RAM usage. Enabling the paging pool sets aside a limited amount of RAM for paging. The higher the paging pool size, the more RAM is available for paging. This results in fewer page faults, since more code can be held in the paging pool. It is important to determine the right balance between RAM usage for paging pool and paging performance.


Souce: http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa915315.aspx


On the other hand


A NAND device might have a 6M page pool, while a NOR device doesn't need one at all.


Souce: http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2005/08/19/453784.aspx


So I guess when available amount of RAM is not a problem, the Page Pool can be set to 0 because the HX4700 is a NOR device....

[andieh]

andieh:
I also feel a little slow with the R4 version. I'm now using fix3 version with 0MB pagepool(I edit the rom file with UltraEdit) because some friends say that fix3 is better.
If the page pool is 0MB, your 4700 will fly~ No matter the rom is fix3 or R4.

hey!
could you please upload or send me your rom file? im having a lucky hand to destroy everything when i try to do such things on my own :)

[hx4700 Killer]

Guess I could have used search eh hehe

[lmemperador]

hi to all.:)

i am using a fix3 rom with 8mb and the machine is ok for me, but i want to make a new one with a pagepool of 6mb. i know the values for 8mb (80) and 0 Mb (00)......but how about 6mb? in Hex

details--->

64 B0 00 00 64 00 00 00 74 9A 1F 80 00 00 48 00

00 - 0 MB
10 - 1 MB
20 - 2 MB
40 - 4 MB
48 - 4.5 MB
?? - 6 MB ..............-->> maybe 60?? i want to be sure
80 - 8 MB

... i don't try the pagepool of 0 mb....i prefer to wait for kozhura Version 5.... but i want to know about the people that have been playing with this pagepool of o mb for a weeks. is it everything ok for you? soft reset is needed often?.....i think i will try it...with a release ram program.

lot of thX. i love my Black hx4700 since kozhura started his work. thanks to kozhura and good luck with your broken toy. You are a genius for us, please support SDHC in your next rom.

[Philis]

...i prefer to wait for kozhura Version 5....
:confused: First Kozhoura need a "new" HX4700 ;)
btw, have downgrade back from fix4 to fix 3 ... and hope there will be no battery drain.

[Yahiko]

my main problem is fuc.in filesys runing....

there is a way to limit cpu usage for filesys???

that would be nice...


without filesys problem i think my pda is greeaaaaat with this kohzura room :)

[DavidinCT]

No release 5 yet ?

Does anyone know if Release 4 fixed "flight mode" for wi-fi ?

[MeanSquare]

Well, it looks like I may have jumped the gun a bit on PagePool (maybe. It's hard to sort out all those quotes.) The untweaked hx4700 ROM used a PagePool of 4.5M. I bumped it up to 16M on my 128M hx4700 and to 8M on my 64M hx4700. Now I'm wondering whether I should have dropped it to 0. It sounds like the only caveat is that, without the PagePool, old code gets left in RAM (I assume until the program using it quits). Since I use iTask (and the Resco Today screen Task Manager) to shut down apps I'm not using, is there any real problem with a 0M PagePool?

[bobgreen]

0MB PP rom is very good and speed. I and my friend(his 4700's ram is 128MB) have used it for months. Only what I need to do is to uninstall spb plus which may be the main cause of the boot stop.(when I reset 4700, it stops at the boot screen. need to plug out the battery and pulg in it)
The internet speed between Asia and Americia is too slow. If you can download my 0MB PP rom of R4 version from a Chinese forum, here it is
http://bbs.pdafans.com/thread-467887-1-1.html

[Wild Bill]

Have just recieved my hx4700 back from pocketpctechs,The difference is like kozhuras rom to Hps. I highly reccomend you update your ram, the write screen protector is clearly the best I have ever used (have put hundreds on too)I am still loading apps.and setting up B/T profiles,couple days yet. The latency issue is only minor,and even compaction is also much more livable now. I am a true believer in this upgrade already, I really,really enjoy it.This is what you need to take full advantage of these amazing roms. I sent this in with Fix 4 installed, restored using Sprite Backup(note I have had problems restoring my Survey and Mapping programs,and some other expensive registared programs, so I do a clean install on these) I delete all my wi-fi and B/T profiles and reset up. This seems to eliminate most of the minor issues, I have had and others I read about, no short cuts here. I have had the Battery issue, a time or two, I always close manually (use 3rd party app)all programs before turning off and have never had this happen again (use Battery pack Pro also)

[lighttear]

thank you, bobgreen. its exactly the one i'm searching!

but i have another problem: i installed wm6 rev3 3 weeks ago after i get my hx4700. it was great, no big problems. now i tested rev4 since yesterday and my ipaq feels like a slow brick.
media player frequently make breaks for 2-3 seconds, also tcpmp with video files like avi or flv video. i can't make it out why this happens. lags only while playing mp3 files. the ipaq has more than 600 mhz of cpu power!

ok, i have some of this stops with rev3 too, but not that much. i tried much software and only have 23,44 mb free storage and 31,46 mb free program space. but those lags are also directly after softresetting.

any approaches for this behaviour? or are there any speed up utillities for wm?

Hi, after intensive use since upgrading from original WM2003SE italian ROM to Kozura WM6 rev4 ROM I have to say that my HX4700 gained a new life: many applications such as skype and fring now work well, undoubtedly the iPAQ is faster, I never experienced a battery drain, I can connect to WPA-TKIP wi-fi networks by using secureW2 3.3.3, I can play sounds and divx BUT I am quite sure a big issue is present: randomly the hx4700 slows down ! up to 2 seconds between the tap and the response, the only way to recover speed is a soft reset. At the beginning I thought that this was due to SPB Pocket Plus 4.01, but after uninstalling the ISSUE is still present. Let's hope for a fix; I will never come back to WM2003SE again !
Cheers

[dpdurst]

Have just recieved my hx4700 back from pocketpctechs

Yea I did mine last year, the extra ram makes all the difference in the world in running programs on this thing! enjoy

[bobgreen]

randomly the hx4700 slows down ! up to 2 seconds between the tap and the response, the only way to recover speed is a soft reset. At the beginning I thought that this was due to SPB Pocket Plus 4.01, but after uninstalling the ISSUE is still present. Let's hope for a fix; I will never come back to WM2003SE again !
Cheers
No no no
The seconds delay is because the rom write back(maybe not called like this in English). If you use a rom with 0MB Page Pool, there will be no delay with highly speed responses.
What you need is a rom with 0MB PP but not 2003SE rom.
:)

[Yahiko]

Hi, after intensive use since upgrading from original WM2003SE italian ROM to Kozura WM6 rev4 ROM I have to say that my HX4700 gained a new life: many applications such as skype and fring now work well, undoubtedly the iPAQ is faster, I never experienced a battery drain, I can connect to WPA-TKIP wi-fi networks by using secureW2 3.3.3, I can play sounds and divx BUT I am quite sure a big issue is present: randomly the hx4700 slows down ! up to 2 seconds between the tap and the response, the only way to recover speed is a soft reset. At the beginning I thought that this was due to SPB Pocket Plus 4.01, but after uninstalling the ISSUE is still present. Let's hope for a fix; I will never come back to WM2003SE again !
Cheers


there is no fix to that. ur problem is filesys. search about it. is a problem with type of memory our device has!

[Yahiko]

No no no
The seconds delay is because the rom write back(maybe not called like this in English). If you use a rom with 0MB Page Pool, there will be no delay with highly speed responses.
What you need is a rom with 0MB PP but not 2003SE rom.
:)

0 mb paging pool resolve FILESYS problem!?

[bobgreen]

0 mb paging pool resolve FILESYS problem!?
I thought people here have all known that....Because this was talked months ago...
If you use 0MB PP, all the apps' code will be in ram but not pagepool. So there is no need of FILESYS to write all the codes data back to the flash media.
See the 1682th post of this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1717930&postcount=1682

[Philis]

I thought people here have all known that....Because this was talked months ago...
If you use 0MB PP, all the apps' code will be in ram but not pagepool. So there is no need of FILESYS to write all the codes data back to the flash media.
See the 1682th post of this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1717930&postcount=1682
Bob , maybe a stupid question but, I have also a 128Mb RAM upgrade (few years ago), is it possible to change that "pagepool" by myself ?

[bobgreen]

Bob , maybe a stupid question but, I have also a 128Mb RAM upgrade (few years ago), is it possible to change that "pagepool" by myself ?

It's not stupid at all....
:D
Yes, you can change it yourself.
0MB PP or 48MB PP are all good for 128MB ram.

Use some hex edit tool (such as UltraEdit) to find out this string in the rom file "74 9A 1F 80 00 00 48 00 08 27 1D 80 94 7B 1D 80", then change "74 9A 1F 80 00 00 48 00" into "74 9A 1F 80 00 00 00 00", then save it.

some useful numbers here
4.8M -> 48 00
8.0M -> 80 00
12M -> B0 00
16M -> 00 01
32M -> 00 02
48M -> 00 03

[stefrance_fr]

Hi everybody

First of all, bravissimo for this great great job about this rom WM6.

But ... :( ...
I have a problem with it when I try to install a certificate. It runs when I install a private certif. but not when I install a root.

The error is "The certificate was not successfully added. Please restart the device and try again"

This certificate is ok on another machine (an HTC) with an original WM6 ROM.

Thank you

Stéphane

[bundleofjoy]

If you use 0MB PP, all the apps' code will be in ram but not pagepool. So there is no need of FILESYS to write all the codes data back to the flash media.

sorry, but that's not true. Code that is removed from the pagepool is not written to flash.
Filesys will still kick in when too many blocks in flash have been modified, usually caused by programs that store their temporary or configuration data in flash. Allowing PIE to write temp data to flash will force filesys execution after a relatively short time...

[andieh]

Hi everybody

First of all, bravissimo for this great great job about this rom WM6.

But ... :( ...
I have a problem with it when I try to install a certificate. It runs when I install a private certif. but not when I install a root.

The error is "The certificate was not successfully added. Please restart the device and try again"

This certificate is ok on another machine (an HTC) with an original WM6 ROM.

Thank you

Stéphane

Hi! Give the search function a try: it show you some nice results. export the certificate registry key on HTC and import it on your ipaq, it should work then.

[jowong]

:p Still waiting for cure medicine in battery drain syndrome.
I try every suggestions, but not yet fix.
Need more brainstroms or trial ideas that may help.
During this trouble time:( ,I need to take the charger with me all the time.
Please:o ....give some helping hands more....:D

[Chemong]

:p Still waiting for cure medicine in battery drain syndrome.
I try every suggestions, but not yet fix.
Need more brainstroms or trial ideas that may help.
During this trouble time:( ,I need to take the charger with me all the time.
Please:o ....give some helping hands more....:D


Have you tried to Fake Server trick? I think it can reduce battery drain.

"Set ActiveSync to manual activation :

Launch ActiveSync on your pocket pc
Choose Menu, Add Server Source
Input ’something’ for the server address
Next
Again, fill something in (whatever you want) for Username, Password and Domain
Make sure that every field is filled in
Next
Finish
Now, do Menu, Schedule
Set both Peak times & Off-peak times to Manually
OK
Do Menu, Options
Select Exchange Server and delete it thus removing the settings you have just entered
OK to exit "

[VulcanTourist]

Ditto for me re: battery drain. Haven't narrowed down the cause yet, but the suggested Registry tweaks were not (the cause).

I'm experiencing other apparently one of a kind bizarre problems, not necessarily tied to the ROM. The other worst one is the inability to connect or sync via USB/cradle, usually after cradling and uncradling it several times, and similar problems now with ALL my external USB devices. My suspicion is that installing ActiveSync 4.5 - and that lengthy phase where it claimed to be "updating USB drivers" - is the cause of it, but what can I do? 4.5 is required for WM6 now, so I can't even prove the theory unless I want to abandon this ROM and revert to WM5 or the original.

With all the horrendous problems we have integrating even this "simple" software we have now, an IT prophet would have to be an idiot to predict a humanoid AI any time soon... it will require millions of years of beta testing and bug fixes and service packs, just like the real thing!

Windows Mobile 3.5e6, anyone, flashed directly into the old wetware neural net?

[bobgreen]

sorry, but that's not true. Code that is removed from the pagepool is not written to flash.
Filesys will still kick in when too many blocks in flash have been modified, usually caused by programs that store their temporary or configuration data in flash. Allowing PIE to write temp data to flash will force filesys execution after a relatively short time...
-_-b
What you mean is exactly the same with what I mean.
Code of an app is not its data. The code will be run in ram and the data will be stored in the flash.

[Wild Bill]

Currenty Have the A/S problem,bought ppcmag BofE cd. Installed Active print and Memorey Map Navigator (have not put codes in yet) this problem just started. I suspect its the way one of these programs store data, had this problem with another program(Never could run it)I will try codes first(I do not have this problem with my older unit, just synced)I think you will find this in one of your programs, or changes you have made recently

[Wild Bill]

My A/S problem and fix, Active sync Print sever was running on my PC (did not show up in Task Manager) I restarted my PC(ending the Active Print server) now my device syncs ok.I suspect when I have the code (and activate) this will stop, tryed twice and locked up my device twice,so much for this demo (will wait for code, before trying again)Hope this helps

[andieh]

wtf? just created an image with 8mb pagepool yesterday and today i get "cant start windows media player. not enough free memory"???
i stop all programs from settings - system - memory, but there were only 1,5mb of free mem!

[kozhura]

I`m preparing JTAG for my HP hx2750 (he `ll be first,because he was died by me) and 4700, I `think that i`ll finish on Monday

[xunah]

I`m preparing JTAG for my HP hx2750 (he `ll be first,because he was died by me) and 4700, I `think that i`ll finish on Monday

What is JTAG??? Will you develop new roms for hx4700?

[VulcanTourist]

What is JTAG???

http://www.xess.com/faq/M0000297.HTM
http://hri.sourceforge.net/tools/jtag_faq_org.html#_Toc63218708
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JTAG

That should cover it. :D

The answer to your second question would be a big conditional MAYBE, depending upon whether the JTAG process yields him a responsive hx4700 or not. Clearly the failure went far beyond what mere fresh batteries could fix, unfortunately.

[lyger]

we have two battery issues, when using wifi or BT with the reg changes to 'DisablePowerManagement' your battery will last longer during use.
When you power off your ipaq you will notice either BT or wifi will come on (LED) by itself. Try turning on BT with a active connection then power off your ipaq and after a while the LED will come on and this drains the battery. Make sure you turn off BT & wifi before you power off you ipaq.

[lyger]

Having a 00 pagepool will help with filesys compaction because when filesys (compaction) is running the NOR ROM is very busy and you click and request code that's not available in the pagepool and therefore has to read data off the very busy ROM, hence a dely. If you have a 00 pagepool there is no limit to the amount of code stored in the pagepool and with more code and data in RAM (pagepool) there is less need to read from a busy ROM with filesys, this makes all the difference. People with the RAM upgrade I would recommend a 00 pagepool and the use of a RAM disk for IE cache etc. people with standard 64MB RAM devices it will depend on how you use your ipaq, I have a 00 pagepool and a 2MB ramdisk for temp files.
I hope this makes sense..

[HappyMM]

If you have only 64M RAM and set the pp=0, you will turn off the limitation of PP. If you run mediaplayer, there is a chance to eat all your ram and make your system hang up.

But for 128M RAM, PP=0 is OK indeed.

[bobgreen]

If you have only 64M RAM and set the pp=0, you will turn off the limitation of PP. If you run mediaplayer, there is a chance to eat all your ram and make your system hang up.

But for 128M RAM, PP=0 is OK indeed.
I've used 0MB PP rom for weeks. Usually listen to musics or watch movies.
What you said has never happened on my 4700....:)

[Philis]

It's not stupid at all....
:D
Yes, you can change it yourself.
0MB PP or 48MB PP are all good for 128MB ram.

Use some hex edit tool (such as UltraEdit) to find out this string in the rom file "74 9A 1F 80 00 00 48 00 08 27 1D 80 94 7B 1D 80", then change "74 9A 1F 80 00 00 48 00" into "74 9A 1F 80 00 00 00 00", then save it.

some useful numbers here
4.8M -> 48 00
8.0M -> 80 00
12M -> B0 00
16M -> 00 01
32M -> 00 02
48M -> 00 03
Thanks Bob for the easy explanation, have changed PP=0 in fix3 (edit rom on pc etc ... flashed again to ppc)... now running nice and smooth :)
I'll stay for awhile with fix 3 to ... no battery drain issue.

[ben068]

Ditto for me re: battery drain. Haven't narrowed down the cause yet, but the suggested Registry tweaks were not (the cause).

I'm experiencing other apparently one of a kind bizarre problems, not necessarily tied to the ROM. The other worst one is the inability to connect or sync via USB/cradle, usually after cradling and uncradling it several times, and similar problems now with ALL my external USB devices. My suspicion is that installing ActiveSync 4.5 - and that lengthy phase where it claimed to be "updating USB drivers" - is the cause of it, but what can I do? 4.5 is required for WM6 now, so I can't even prove the theory unless I want to abandon this ROM and revert to WM5 or the original.

With all the horrendous problems we have integrating even this "simple" software we have now, an IT prophet would have to be an idiot to predict a humanoid AI any time soon... it will require millions of years of beta testing and bug fixes and service packs, just like the real thing!

Windows Mobile 3.5e6, anyone, flashed directly into the old wetware neural net?

I'm using WM6 fix 3 on mine and i experienced a problem with active sync 4.5 as well, wouldn't connect to my laptop. I unchecked the 'enable advanced network functionality' on the USB to PC option setting and worked ok after that.

[VulcanTourist]

we have two battery issues, when using wifi or BT with the reg changes to 'DisablePowerManagement' your battery will last longer during use.
When you power off your ipaq you will notice either BT or wifi will come on (LED) by itself. Try turning on BT with a active connection then power off your ipaq and after a while the LED will come on and this drains the battery. Make sure you turn off BT & wifi before you power off you ipaq.

I haven't seen that behavior at any point yet (I'm observant of such things), so I doubt that is my specific problem. Having some other troubles right now with the SD card and how I wanted to use it, so battery sleuthing has been postponed for a bit. Gotta reformat the card and reinstall some stuff, I think I'll do it more methodically this time and watch the battery.

ben068, are you talking about the Connection Settings option "Allow wireless connection on device when connected to the desktop"? I did have that enabled, so I've disabled it. Nothing has changed yet, but I assume it might require a restart and I'm not able to do that just yet. Will be interesting to see if it's that simple.

[stefrance_fr]

Hi! Give the search function a try: it show you some nice results. export the certificate registry key on HTC and import it on your ipaq, it should work then.

Yep, but it's not mine and I haven't anymore... And I would like being capable to install root certificates without another device if possible ...

Thank you

Best regards
Stéphane

[ben068]

ben068, are you talking about the Connection Settings option "Allow wireless connection on device when connected to the desktop"? I did have that enabled, so I've disabled it. Nothing has changed yet, but I assume it might require a restart and I'm not able to do that just yet. Will be interesting to see if it's that simple.

no, on the HX4700 itself, USB to PC under settings/connections. On active sync i still have the above checked (allow wireless connec....) so its not that. I did have to soft reset the pda.

[VulcanTourist]

Oh, gotcha! I knew I'd seen the specific wording you'd mentioned somewhere. Crossing fingers....

[Yahiko]

could someone explain me how to make the change.

im very noob.

if u can explain me word by word i will be sooo glad ;)

how to change paging pool to 0!
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OHHH that is so easy... just open file with utraedit and then find and change.

so i will experiment and then i will tell u about 0 page pool behaviour.

I will backup with sprite first and then im ready to the change!
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I reinstall rom and know restoring backup!
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[Yahiko]

My problem is...

I install and open the browser in my ipaq and so far so good but when i try to open any page opera charge a half page and stop and i cant do anithing more with it!


Anyone have the same problem?

[dmorenoj]

Hi every one.

Thanks to Kozhura for give to ours hx470x a new life :D . Hopefully you will revive your iPAQs. No one better than you to do that ;)

For those interested to use a SDHC Card in the hx4700, This is a SDHC to CFII Adapter developed by a German Company called JOBO.
Link -> JOBO (http://www.24traders.net/oxid.php/sid/e379b45ecee410e2448c26bcfe38c462/cl/details/cnid/-/anid/344467693c7129cb5.04414617/JOBO---mini-Adapter-fuer-SD_SDHC-auf-CF-%28SE9108%29/)
Also in ebay:
eBay1 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=200181491312&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=010)
eBay2 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=310003560989&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=021)

According what I have read, the adapter does the job to read the SDHC, so it is possible to use them in the hx4700 without any problem. I haven't tested it, but maybe it is worth of it.

Regards

[Yahiko]

Hi every one.

Thanks to Kozhura for give to ours hx470x a new life :D . Hopefully you will revive your iPAQs. No one better than you to do that ;)

For those interested to use a SDHC Card in the hx4700, This is a SDHC to CFII Adapter developed by a German Company called JOBO.
Link -> JOBO (http://www.24traders.net/oxid.php/sid/e379b45ecee410e2448c26bcfe38c462/cl/details/cnid/-/anid/344467693c7129cb5.04414617/JOBO---mini-Adapter-fuer-SD_SDHC-auf-CF-%28SE9108%29/)
Also in ebay:
eBay1 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=200181491312&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=010)
eBay2 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=310003560989&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=021)

According what I have read, the adapter does the job to read the SDHC, so it is possible to use them in the hx4700 without any problem. I haven't tested it, but maybe it is worth of it.

Regards

that is not a good solution to our problem.

we want to use cf card too and sdhc!

BOTH....

[andieh]

Yep, but it's not mine and I haven't anymore... And I would like being capable to install root certificates without another device if possible ...

Thank you

Best regards
Stéphane

sers! i did not find any other way to import my certificate. just download wm5 (here from kozhura, too), install it and export it there.

you can install sprite backup and backup your wm6 complete. download and flash wm5, install and export your cert and reinstall wm6. sprite does the rest.

[eclipse1]

hi,

I'm new to the wm6.0 for the 4700.

I entercountered 2 errors when I try using Bootloader.exe

1st error is this
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q127/patricklai/4700/error.jpg

2nd one is following the 1st error
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q127/patricklai/4700/error2.jpg

any idea what is wrong?

File is downloaded from Cogent actualing to the information on the 1st thread from kozhura.

I'm trying to run the update using a laptop on WinXP.
The Ipaq 4700 is still on WM2003SE.

Any special instructions to follow?

Thanks in Advance.

[pepeluu]

It looks like your rar file is not good. Try downloading from a colleague´s web:

http://wm6.flyingarizona.net/

He contributes his space so we can get "certified" files.

Good luck

[Chemong]

hi,

I'm new to the wm6.0 for the 4700.

I entercountered 2 errors when I try using Bootloader.exe

1st error is this
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q127/patricklai/4700/error.jpg

2nd one is following the 1st error
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q127/patricklai/4700/error2.jpg

any idea what is wrong?

File is downloaded from Cogent actualing to the information on the 1st thread from kozhura.

I'm trying to run the update using a laptop on WinXP.
The Ipaq 4700 is still on WM2003SE.

Any special instructions to follow?

Thanks in Advance.

Manually extract the file from the rar file using unzip software and then run the bootloader software again, but point to the nbo file I think it is.

[Phil06]

Yep, but it's not mine and I haven't anymore... And I would like being capable to install root certificates without another device if possible ...

Thank you

Best regards
Stéphane

Hi men,
I have exactly the same prob :-(
I have try this:
https://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2006/01/28/making_a_root_cert_cab_file.aspx

Maybe i have to do something of wrong but it doesn't work :-(
Have you another idea?

Good night

[Yahiko]

Hi men,
I have exactly the same prob :-(
I have try this:
https://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2006/01/28/making_a_root_cert_cab_file.aspx

Maybe i have to do something of wrong but it doesn't work :-(
Have you another idea?

Good night

why do u need to install certificates?

i dont know what we do with certificates...

what did u do with them?

Im so noob :(


By the way 00MB page pool rocks :)

[Phil06]

why do u need to install certificates?

i dont know what we do with certificates...

what did u do with them?

Im so noob :(


By the way 00MB page pool rocks :)

Hi thx for your answer,
It's easy, my provider in France make the last version of his modem could make a hotspot for VOIP but i need to install the root certificate of my provider (Free) and the personnal certificate.
I have been no prob with personnal but it's impossible with the root :-(

Is it a bug with the rom?
I use this one:
WM6_4700_0_7_0_RELEASE4.rar

Have a good day

[eclipse1]

thanks!

M anualkly extract the file from the rar file using unzip software and then run the bootloader software again, but point to the nbo file I think it is.

I went into this screen,
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q127/patricklai/4700/screen1.jpg

how would I know whether the info is being transferred to my PDA?

On the PDA itself, the screen does not have any backlighting and only shows
USB V1.01.

How to know is it being flashed?

thanks again.

[eclipse1]

hi again,

Hope I;m not too troublesome.

The program has now stopped. Is there anything I need to do after this?
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q127/patricklai/4700/screen2.jpg

Should I be perform this step of the instruction from Chris's thread in brighthand forum?

Step 5: Lastly, perform a clean reset by pressing CONTACTS + INBOX + RESET. When asked to confirm the clean reset press CALENDER.* NOTE: You may need to soft reset before or after doing this. This step is required by all bootloaders. (Solnyshok’s mod etc.) Don't skip it or it will not boot up.*

thanks again.

[comtech2005]

Step 5: Lastly, perform a clean reset by pressing CONTACTS + INBOX + RESET. When asked to confirm the clean reset press CALENDER.* NOTE: You may need to soft reset before or after doing this. This step is required by all bootloaders. (Solnyshok’s mod etc.) Don't skip it or it will not boot up.*



Yes, thats the one!!:) :)

Good luck.

[dvsat]

Hi thx for your answer,
It's easy, my provider in France make the last version of his modem could make a hotspot for VOIP but i need to install the root certificate of my provider (Free) and the personnal certificate.
I have been no prob with personnal but it's impossible with the root :-(

Is it a bug with the rom?
I use this one:
WM6_4700_0_7_0_RELEASE4.rar

Have a good day

To install ROOT certificat from provider (FREE), i have used a Virtual PDA with WM6 provite by M$ SDK. After a correct installation of the ROOT certificat, you need to export the regitry of certificat [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Comm\Security\SystemCertificates]

And now you just need to import the .reg in your hx4700.

Inject the private certificat only in your hx4700 and after the reg importation

[jkoopa]

Can anyone help ? How do I Hard-Reset iPaq 2750 with WM6 installed ?? been trying any old apps (easy reset v1.0,hard reset.zip) with no luck

by pressing button 1 & 4 while doing press&hold soft reset button for 3-5 secs doesn't work either though it's the hard reset method written on the manual

is WM6 hard reset differently ?

*edit*
solved my own problem, it use different method not hard reset but Clean Reset as for WM5 ( hold button calendar,message,power then reset )

[stefrance_fr]

To install ROOT certificat from provider (FREE), i have used a Virtual PDA with WM6 provite by M$ SDK. After a correct installation of the ROOT certificat, you need to export the regitry of certificat [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Comm\Security\SystemCertificates]

And now you just need to import the .reg in your hx4700.

Inject the private certificat only in your hx4700 and after the reg importation

Too many french here ... avec des problèmes pour installer le certificat racine du compte freephonie ? ;)


Me too and if this solution is an issue ... thank you !

I'll try

Best regard
Stéphane

[stefrance_fr]

The problem isn't the private certificate but for the ROOT certificate. And I don't see the solution. :(:(:(

[andieh]

The problem isn't the private certificate but for the ROOT certificate. And I don't see the solution. :(:(:(

i told you the solution before. i did it the same way. it took me about an hour, but i think, this is acceptable:

1) download Sprite Backup Trial (http://www.spritesoftware.com/), install it and make a full backup of your wm6 device.
2) download WM5 Image from Kozhura, flash your ipaq.
3) download Resco Explorer Trial (http://resco.net) with Resco Registry Plugin. Install it, install your certifcate also (with the "making cab file" howto), and export the regkey. save it on a sdcard or whatever.
4) reflash wm6 again, play back your sprite backup and click on the registryfile exported before. turn off your device, wait about 1-2 minutes and make a softreset. now you're done.

dont ask again here. otherwise i have to translate this text in french. and my french is much more terrible than my "ohhh bad" english.

[hx4700 Killer]

Good Luck Khozura, let us know if there is anything we can do to help?

I am going to go get virtual PDA from MS and check it out. That is a neater solution than installing WM5 back on to the PPC to get certs set up.

Those inquiring about certificates, ROOT certs do not install in this ROM for some reason. It is a bug in THIS ROM only. Thanks, please return to your regularly scheduled day.

[grayme]

dont ask again here. otherwise i have to translate this text in french. and my french is much more terrible than my f***ing english.

Your English was fine (more so very good), right up to the last two words; could you please amend your post, children can read these forums.

Thanks

[pepeluu]

Thanks andieh.

[grayme]

dont ask again here. otherwise i have to translate this text in french. and my french is much more terrible than my "ohhh bad" english.

Thanks for changing :)

[biglio]

hi
i have a little question
as i sync my ppc with activesync
it work fine but ...if i let my ppc on
the base and switch it off, the ppc
switch on after 5 mins and sync again
i can t find where to change this stupid thing.... :(
because if i only want to charge it ...i can t , it ll still
try to sync every 5 mins ....

ps : the sync is so slow compared to WM2003 ...is it normal ???

thanks

is it better to put 0Mo pagepool ??? (don t see any difference with 8Mo)

[Chemong]

hi
i have a little question
as i sync my ppc with activesync
it work fine but ...if i let my ppc on
the base and switch it off, the ppc
switch on after 5 mins and sync again
i can t find where to change this stupid thing.... :(
because if i only want to charge it ...i can t , it ll still
try to sync every 5 mins ....

ps : the sync is so slow compared to WM2003 ...is it normal ???

thanks

is it better to put 0Mo pagepool ??? (don t see any difference with 8Mo)


Have you tried to Fake Server trick? I think it can reduce battery drain.

"Set ActiveSync to manual activation :

Launch ActiveSync on your pocket pc
Choose Menu, Add Server Source
Input ’something’ for the server address
Next
Again, fill something in (whatever you want) for Username, Password and Domain
Make sure that every field is filled in
Next
Finish
Now, do Menu, Schedule
Set both Peak times & Off-peak times to Manually
OK
Do Menu, Options
Select Exchange Server and delete it thus removing the settings you have just entered
OK to exit "

This should force the Sync to only happen manually.

[Yahiko]

hi
i have a little question
as i sync my ppc with activesync
it work fine but ...if i let my ppc on
the base and switch it off, the ppc
switch on after 5 mins and sync again
i can t find where to change this stupid thing.... :(
because if i only want to charge it ...i can t , it ll still
try to sync every 5 mins ....

ps : the sync is so slow compared to WM2003 ...is it normal ???

thanks

is it better to put 0Mo pagepool ??? (don t see any difference with 8Mo)


yes its better because when filesys begins with 8mb page pool the slow down is bigger compared to 0mb pagepool... im lovin 0mb pagepool. :)
It makes my ppc more useful.
a lot more for be honest.

[jowong]

:p Still waiting for cure medicine in battery drain syndrome.
I try every suggestions, but not yet fix.
Need more brainstroms or trial ideas that may help.
During this trouble time:( ,I need to take the charger with me all the time.
Please:o ....give some helping hands more....:D


After I try to search from google about"wm6+battery drain", someone experience about software conflict that burn out power battery.
Someone mention SPB diary conflict? ,so I try by un-install it out and also use memmaid to disable the startup service of SPB (spb finance,spb insight, spb time,spb traveller...)
After a night long ,the battery can be keep full potential!
Now,the perfect HP 4700+wm6 Khozura,is coming both speed and power.
If you got this problems too, try it!

[dvsat]

After I try to search from google about"wm6+battery drain", someone experience about software conflict that burn out power battery.
Someone mention SPB diary conflict? ,so I try by un-install it out and also use memmaid to disable the startup service of SPB (spb finance,spb insight, spb time,spb traveller...)
After a night long ,the battery can be keep full potential!
Now,the perfect HP 4700+wm6 Khozura,is coming both speed and power.
If you got this problems too, try it!


I have test the FIXE 4 with PP 4.8Mo et PP0 Mo.
I never user the SPB apps but the hx4700 have battery failure

I decide to go back with the FIXE 3 PP4.8 and adding the Qwerty fixe namualy.

Actualy : No battery drain and more speed.

I'm wainting for a potentialy fix5 and some news of the brick of ours developper.