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moneytoo
30th August 2007, 08:30 PM
Hi guys,
I have been playing with Samsung Blackjack (i607) and some beta WM6 ROM. I have been pleased that the jBlend VM (Java midlet manager) supports JSR 139, JSR 118, JSR 185, JSR 184, and JSR 75 (it's on the About screen).

It sounds nice and the 3D really works (at least on JBenchmark 3D). So Im looking for some way to enable this on my WM5. I have extracted all the needed files (I hope) and rewrite the registry values... But nothing worked, not on my phone, neither on Dash.

Is it because it is designed for WM6 and uses the special WM6 API? Is there a way I can find this? I will test it tommorrow on Vox, so I hope I will finally get to know...

BTW: The jBlend version is 20070413. Doesnt already someone smarter released this one?

Here's the files.
jblend.rar (http://rapidshare.com/files/52254457/jblend.rar)

Please note: It's not CAB or any other installer. Just jBlend files from Blackjack which I hope someone get to work.

Menneisyys
31st August 2007, 03:03 PM
I've tried to overwrite the original files of the slightly older, working (but non-3D-compliant) version available at http://www.winmobiletech.com/sekalaiset/JBlendFullScreen.cab with the files. No success - after this, the midlet manager refused to start.

Will try to go on with hacking.

Menneisyys
31st August 2007, 04:55 PM
BTW, I've uploaded TONS of 3D benchmark results to http://www.jbenchmark.com/resultsoflogin.jsp?benchmark=pro&login=Menneisyys

As can be seen, current JVM's only offer about 10% frame rate (because of the software rendering) compared to 3D-enabled devices like the Nokia N93/N95 equipped with a hardware 3D accelerator.

All in all, you won't rellly enjoy 3D games on any PPC / Smartphone.

Menneisyys
1st September 2007, 02:21 AM
I've also created a Dev & Hacking thread asking for help - see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1476270

Hope someone will be able to do this.

defcomg
7th September 2007, 12:51 AM
Hi guys,
I have been playing with Samsung Blackjack (i607) and some beta WM6 ROM. I have been pleased that the jBlend VM (Java midlet manager) supports JSR 139, JSR 118, JSR 185, JSR 184, and JSR 75 (it's on the About screen).

It sounds nice and the 3D really works (at least on JBenchmark 3D). So Im looking for some way to enable this on my WM5. I have extracted all the needed files (I hope) and rewrite the registry values... But nothing worked, not on my phone, neither on Dash.

Is it because it is designed for WM6 and uses the special WM6 API? Is there a way I can find this? I will test it tommorrow on Vox, so I hope I will finally get to know...

BTW: The jBlend version is 20070413. Doesnt already someone smarter released this one?

Here's the files.
jblend.rar (http://rapidshare.com/files/52254457/jblend.rar)

Please note: It's not CAB or any other installer. Just jBlend files from Blackjack which I hope someone get to work.

Can You Please post jblend.rar or at www.hotlinkfiles.com beacuse i cant Download from rapidshare no matter what i do i tried like 4 frikin times dude n everytym it getz to lyk 346kb out of the 2mb it supposed to n i dont understand Why It wount Open On wm5 when you try and open it does it give the error Jblend_Ams.exe is not a Win Ce application if it dont then there maybe a dll missing try this install a working Jblend Ryt then Replace those EXe n dll with the ones in the jblend.rar you should have the following files JBlend_AMS.exe which is the Launcher app JBlend_VM.exe this what opens the *.jar file and runs it WapDaemon.exe WapDaemon.dll this moniter PIE(pocket internet Explorer) For Filetype *.jad n *.jar and about the Jblend Full screen i think the trick in to getting a Jblend into full screen is to use the C# or C+ Script that Hides The TaskBar the taskbar is the part where it shows the battery and EDGE or Gprs TCMp has the option to hide the taskbar maybe the Author of TCMp can tell what script he uses and he mabe able to add it to jblend non full screen Ive Got Jblend Build number:v3.3.4, 2007/0425b but it dont run jsr 184 Java Configuration are JSR 139,JSR118,JSR185 i Uploaded it at www.pxdxa.com erez da linkhttp://www.pxdxa.com/read.php?tid=47266 itz dat Jblend non full screen Lata Dudez Hope Yall Come Ryt wit dis Java Issue

viperj
8th September 2007, 07:45 PM
The reason Jblend_AMS.exe Wount Work Is Not Because OF WM6 Itz Beacause when You Copied Jblend_AMS.exe n Jblend_VM.exe n the Dll You Left Out A dll Which is the Componet That Jblend_AMS.exe Needs Please Check Again And Copy Them Again Propery N Check Da Registry Coz I Tried On Wm6 n Wm5 It Dont Work It Says JBlendAMS.exe Alert Cant`t find '(or one of its components). Make sure the path and filename are correct and that all the file reuired library are available. Just Make Sure you dont 4get itz Probebly a dll file or a mui Please this time Upload the file here and not Rapidshare or upload it at www.hotlinkfiles.com K Is There a Way To Knw what specific dll that a exe needs

Menneisyys
9th September 2007, 11:04 AM
Hi guys,
I have been playing with Samsung Blackjack (i607) and some beta WM6 ROM. I have been pleased that the jBlend VM (Java midlet manager) supports JSR 139, JSR 118, JSR 185, JSR 184, and JSR 75 (it's on the About screen).


Referring to viperj's last post, where this ROM is available at so that I can also ty exatracting the files to see whether we can find the missing DLL's?

defcomg
9th September 2007, 11:06 PM
Hi guys,
I have been playing with Samsung Blackjack (i607) and some beta WM6 ROM. I have been pleased that the jBlend VM (Java midlet manager) supports JSR 139, JSR 118, JSR 185, JSR 184, and JSR 75 (it's on the About screen).

It sounds nice and the 3D really works (at least on JBenchmark 3D). So Im looking for some way to enable this on my WM5. I have extracted all the needed files (I hope) and rewrite the registry values... But nothing worked, not on my phone, neither on Dash.

Is it because it is designed for WM6 and uses the special WM6 API? Is there a way I can find this? I will test it tommorrow on Vox, so I hope I will finally get to know...

BTW: The jBlend version is 20070413. Doesnt already someone smarter released this one?

Here's the files.
jblend.rar (http://rapidshare.com/files/52254457/jblend.rar)

Please note: It's not CAB or any other installer. Just jBlend files from Blackjack which I hope someone get to work.

Im Not Sure If it is da same rom but erez da link http://erms.samsungusa.com/customer/sea/jsp/faqs/faqs_view.jsp?SITE_ID=22&PG_ID=557&PROD_SUB_ID=558&PROD_ID=751&AT_ID=83176 just ask moneytoo were he got da rom oh turn off your pop up Blocker when you at samsungs rom download site

defcomg
11th September 2007, 12:57 AM
i found the sharp site it is in japanese and therz 1 download an update of sum sort itz 9mb its the Zero support site anyway here is the link http://wssupport.sharp.co.jp/download/ws011sh/update_sp2 n sharp.co.jp/ws/

defcomg
11th September 2007, 01:07 AM
hey try diz link also by the way there is morethan one type of the sharp Zero the Zero is Actualy the series name lyk the Nokia N-Series so itz da Sharp WS ZERO-SERIES ANY EREZ D LINK http://wssupport.sharp.co.jp k

defcomg
11th September 2007, 03:38 PM
I Found Another Version OF Jblend For Motorola itz Bigger than the one on my hp ipaq 514 itz almost the same size as the one from samsung erez the rar version itz a cab extractJblend RussiaN Version (http://motofan.ru/files/soft/JBlend_Java.rar) By The way for some reason i cant attach or upload any attachments here itz wierd huh "Attach Files
Valid file extensions: bmp cab doc gif jpe jpeg jpg pdf png psd txt zip" thats all it says but no place to select files

defcomg
11th September 2007, 04:18 PM
I Found Another ROM OF the Blackjack but its in Dutch anyway here is the linkXXGD1 update (http://www.megaupload.com/pl/?d=MJEO5RGX) MEGASHARE i600 XXGD1 update (http://rapidshare.com/files/48847824/Firmware_i600XXGD1.rar) Rapidshare n http://www.samsungmobile.com/promotion/i600/net/sub01.jsp#

jawwad_shaukat
11th September 2007, 06:26 PM
defcomg, i appreciate ur sincere efforts. I too am dying for it on my wizard. How i can help?

jawwad_shaukat
11th September 2007, 06:39 PM
A guy on howard forums was running many 3d java games on his samsung blackjack successfully. Dream the same on my wizard too. http://howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1181735&page=3&pp=15

Menneisyys
11th September 2007, 09:39 PM
I Found Another Version OF Jblend For Motorola itz Bigger than the one on my hp ipaq 514 itz almost the same size as the one from samsung erez the rar version itz a cab extractJblend RussiaN Version (http://motofan.ru/files/soft/JBlend_Java.rar)

Great! Thanks for the link - will test it.


By The way for some reason i cant attach or upload any attachments here itz wierd huh "Attach Files
Valid file extensions: bmp cab doc gif jpe jpeg jpg pdf png psd txt zip" thats all it says but no place to select files

CAB files, or any files?

defcomg
12th September 2007, 12:15 AM
i cant upload any file type jar rar zip nada there is no html upload form thingy i use opera 9 pc mayb thats why i will try mozilla or safari hey i checked out howard forum dang he can play sum good games like burnout i wanna play dat but i cant :-( diz Sux

defcomg
12th September 2007, 12:21 AM
im posting using opera mini right now and i have the option to manage attachment but on pc it dont appear datz freakin wierd. by da way i checked da jblend monetoo posted its signed with a samsung root oem certificate n minez is signed by hp

defcomg
12th September 2007, 12:27 AM
you can help by helpin us find the sharp wzero 3 es rom and the blackjack i607 with that jblend that supports jsr 184 n 82 n 75 n mobile media doesnt any1 on this forum have a blackjack i607 wm6 wait y dont we ask moneytoo wer he got the wm6 rom ;-)

defcomg
13th September 2007, 06:44 AM
anyway i spoke 2 play911 the dude at howardforums apperently he dont use jblend he uses ibm j9 to run those games so my theory all java emulators have update but they aient public updates and i asked him if he's sure user j9 to play 3d java. meny sup

melgurth
21st September 2007, 05:31 PM
Ok Guys!

I've ripped last exe-rom-update for Samsung i607. Make imgfs and dumped it. All files are avalible for me. I've copied Jblend and almost all dlls to SD card of my Tornado and make required registry entries. And ... it wont run. VM runs but AMS don't.

I've checked in LordPE (exe/dll viewer) what files AMS use, all have been copied into it's directory - still nothing.

I've looked depper into AMS in HEX/String mode and there is something about "Samsung Privileged Signing Certificate" there. And I think that this is what blocking AMS.

So this is my idea. Anyone know where are certificates in rom, is there a chance to rip them and install to any other machine?
I know that certificates can be added - for example RegeditSTG have one (without this cert it can't save registry changes).

Anyone knows something about certificates?

thenext1
22nd September 2007, 11:45 AM
Ok Guys!

I've ripped last exe-rom-update for Samsung i607. Make imgfs and dumped it. All files are avalible for me. I've copied Jblend and almost all dlls to SD card of my Tornado and make required registry entries. And ... it wont run. VM runs but AMS don't.

I've checked in LordPE (exe/dll viewer) what files AMS use, all have been copied into it's directory - still nothing.

I've looked depper into AMS in HEX/String mode and there is something about "Samsung Privileged Signing Certificate" there. And I think that this is what blocking AMS.

So this is my idea. Anyone know where are certificates in rom, is there a chance to rip them and install to any other machine?
I know that certificates can be added - for example RegeditSTG have one (without this cert it can't save registry changes).

Anyone knows something about certificates?
What does AMS say when you run it? "AMS cant run because it'sn got a signed certificate blahblah" ??? I've noticed that also VM has got that certificate.
Maybe we can strip the certificate out?

Also make sure you inlcuded all the DLLs using Dependency Viewer (free somewhere on the internet).

Also, do you mind uploading all the files somewhere?

many thanks

thenext1
22nd September 2007, 12:24 PM
Ok Guys!

I've ripped last exe-rom-update for Samsung i607. Make imgfs and dumped it. All files are avalible for me. I've copied Jblend and almost all dlls to SD card of my Tornado and make required registry entries. And ... it wont run. VM runs but AMS don't.

I've checked in LordPE (exe/dll viewer) what files AMS use, all have been copied into it's directory - still nothing.

I've looked depper into AMS in HEX/String mode and there is something about "Samsung Privileged Signing Certificate" there. And I think that this is what blocking AMS.

So this is my idea. Anyone know where are certificates in rom, is there a chance to rip them and install to any other machine?
I know that certificates can be added - for example RegeditSTG have one (without this cert it can't save registry changes).

Anyone knows something about certificates?
also ... can you tell me how did you extract the files from the samsung EXE file? ... the steps .... many thanks

thenext1
22nd September 2007, 05:31 PM
Ok i've managed to extract the files from the samsung rom.... using depends.exe i've found that Jblend_AMS needs a file called LsOmaClient.dll .... i can't find it in the rom dump, does anyone have it?

at this point JBlend_VM does nothing, but i suppose it needs the jar file passed by parameter....

thenext1
22nd September 2007, 06:06 PM
Now .... 4th conswcutive post :D

But i've managed to find all the needed DLL files... but again, AMS does nothing. It starts up and exits.

In contrast, VM starts up and stays resident in memory (seen with celetask)

May be other files are missing? :(

thenext1
22nd September 2007, 06:48 PM
5th post :D
I made it ... AMS is running and displays the window... the missing file was AJFS2_Rom.bin ... but i threw in also Micro3d_v3.dll coz i think it has to do with java3d.

But ... how to install apps? I see no menu entry to search local apps ... and opening JARs with AMS does nothing...

melgurth
22nd September 2007, 10:30 PM
I made it ... AMS is running and displays the window... the missing file was AJFS2_Rom.bin ... but i threw in also Micro3d_v3.dll coz i think it has to do with java3d.

Man You rocks!
How to do it? what are files needed for AMS to run. If I manage to run it I'll make nice CAB for all.

melgurth
22nd September 2007, 10:44 PM
But ... how to install apps? I see no menu entry to search local apps ... and opening JARs with AMS does nothing...

It's simple - U need all registry settings. Then U install jad or jar by executing it in Your explorer.

You can use registry editor with import feature (for example PC's "Registry Workshop") to import registry (in attachment).

P.S. Registry keys are for "\Storage Card\Jblend\" patch to Jblend. If U have any other edit registry file before importing it - save a lot of troubles (searchig and editing in registry)

thenext1
23rd September 2007, 04:01 AM
It's simple - U need all registry settings. Then U install jad or jar by executing it in Your explorer.

You can use registry editor with import feature (for example PC's "Registry Workshop") to import registry (in attachment).

P.S. Registry keys are for "\Storage Card\Jblend\" patch to Jblend. If U have any other edit registry file before importing it - save a lot of troubles (searchig and editing in registry)

i already add those registry settings, or else it won't startup.
but i can find no way to install my jar!
if i open the jar file with jblend it does nothing: it's like i started it normally :(

melgurth
23rd September 2007, 09:44 AM
i already add those registry settings, or else it won't startup.
but i can find no way to install my jar!
if i open the jar file with jblend it does nothing: it's like i started it normally :(

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\.jad]
@="jblendfile"
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\.jar]
@="jblendfile"
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\jblendFile]
@ = "JBlend File"
"EditFlags"=dword:10010000
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\jblendFile\DefaultIcon]
@="\\Storage Card\\Jblend\\JBlend_AMS.exe, -1"
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\jblendFile\Shell\Open\Command]
@="\\Storage Card\\Jblend\\JBlend_AMS.exe -I <%1>"
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\MIME\Database\Content Type\application/java-archive]
"Extension"=".jar"
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\MIME\Database\Content Type\text/vnd.sun.j2me.app-descriptor]
"Extension"=".jad"
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\MIME\Database\Content Type\text/jad]
"Extension"=".jad"
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\MIME\Database\Content Type\text/vnd.sun.j2me.app-descriptor; charset=utf-8]
"Extension"=".jad"
Those are responsible for opening jar and jad file.
AMS must chave "-I <nameoffile.jar>" (jad) argument to install siute.
Once again I ask for list of files in Your AMS directory.

melgurth
23rd September 2007, 11:17 AM
Ok I manage to run MoHAA: Airborne, and jbenchmark. Performance iss't blasting but it's possible to game smoothly.

I'll make cab with it in the couple of hours.

Also I'll work on iconbar- we want full screen java don't we...?

Menneisyys
23rd September 2007, 11:33 AM
anyway i spoke 2 play911 the dude at howardforums apperently he dont use jblend he uses ibm j9 to run those games so my theory all java emulators have update but they aient public updates and i asked him if he's sure user j9 to play 3d java. meny sup

wowz! thnks for the update!

Menneisyys
23rd September 2007, 11:36 AM
Ok I manage to run MoHAA: Airborne, and jbenchmark. Performance iss't blasting but it's possible to game smoothly.

I'll make cab with it in the couple of hours.

Also I'll work on iconbar- we want full screen java don't we...?

Wowz! You're great! You'll get special thanks in the Bible!

thenext1
23rd September 2007, 12:22 PM
The missing files are:
-mobileBAE.dll
-AJFS2_Rom.bin
-LsOmaClient.dll

I've decerted all of the files, so they don't show that Samsung certificate.
I've upx'ed them too, so they're smaller.

I still don't know if there's the need of that "java" subfolder with a copy of the main executables...

Menneisyys please give thank's where it's also due :D (its also me that fidded with jblend yesterday and discovered these missing files!)

bye bye

p.s. where do I upload a file?? the forum says "file upload failed!"

thenext1
23rd September 2007, 02:07 PM
Melgurth... help!! :D

I've added the registry values you mentioned.. tried a couple games that ran without problem in the old Esmertec vm.... here they install fine, but NONE of them do run... the games close automatically whenever started...

help :rolleyes:

melgurth
23rd September 2007, 03:08 PM
Melgurth... help!! :D

I've added the registry values you mentioned.. tried a couple games that ran without problem in the old Esmertec vm.... here they install fine, but NONE of them do run... the games close automatically whenever started...

help :rolleyes:

Yes - I found that some (for ex. Worms 2007) games don't run. But plenty of them does!

How U manage to decert hose files? Can U sent me those? use Contact button at my site (signature).
I'll make cab and post Jblend there.

Also we need some info about fullscreen. It's doable but my kung-fu (ARM assemblener) is weak... ;)

thenext1
23rd September 2007, 04:24 PM
Yes - I found that some (for ex. Worms 2007) games don't run. But plenty of them does!

How U manage to decert hose files? Can U sent me those? use Contact button at my site (signature).
I'll make cab and post Jblend there.

Also we need some info about fullscreen. It's doable but my kung-fu (ARM assemblener) is weak... ;)

the problem was that jblend doesn't like it's files to be UPX'ed.
anyway, some games still don't run, which run fullscreen in the old esmertec.
do you know about WinCE api? i do, i could make the window go fullscreen, but i don't know ARM assembler :D

to decert files, install PE Explorer (free 30-day trial), open each DLL and EXE file, then:
- display data directories (ctrl-d)
- click on "Certificate table" then "Set to Zero"
- display section headers (ctrl-t)
- uncheck "EOF extra data" in the lower field
- save the file

sorry if I don't upload ther already-decerted files, but i have problems with this forum...

thenext1
23rd September 2007, 05:03 PM
Anyway after a bit of testing, i must say i'm very perplexed.
The only 3d games i've got it to run are some old games designed for 176x220 screens (i.e. NFS).
Most new games don't run, either failing installation (authorization error) or when running.
The majority of 3d games don't run.
New 2D games look and run better in Esmertec jvm.

Looks like we'll have to wait for esmertec guys to come in...

jawwad_shaukat
23rd September 2007, 05:09 PM
Amazing..u made it running. Can it run on wizard or is it smartphone only ? Waiting for cab. I think the jblend from sharp wzero 3 would suitable be for PPC.

melgurth
23rd September 2007, 05:44 PM
Anyway after a bit of testing, i must say i'm very perplexed.
The only 3d games i've got it to run are some old games designed for 176x220 screens (i.e. NFS).
Most new games don't run, either failing installation (authorization error) or when running.
The majority of 3d games don't run.
New 2D games look and run better in Esmertec jvm.

Looks like we'll have to wait for esmertec guys to come in...

Man I got else feelings. I can run Everything (tested on about 20midlets) and only 2d Worms 2007 doesn't run. Played in Crash Arena 3D, V-Rally 3D, MoHAA: Airborne. ALL of them run - but none of them on Fullscreen Jblend or Jeodek.
I'm Very pleased.
All that we need is to patch those to have full screen. Can You do this?

melgurth
23rd September 2007, 05:45 PM
... I think the jblend from sharp wzero 3 would suitable be for PPC.

If we only have rom to this device...

jawwad_shaukat
23rd September 2007, 07:08 PM
melgurth, chk some games from here
http://defcomg.wen.ru/Java.html

thenext1
23rd September 2007, 07:20 PM
Man I got else feelings. I can run Everything (tested on about 20midlets) and only 2d Worms 2007 doesn't run. Played in Crash Arena 3D, V-Rally 3D, MoHAA: Airborne. ALL of them run - but none of them on Fullscreen Jblend or Jeodek.
I'm Very pleased.
All that we need is to patch those to have full screen. Can You do this?

right ... i've installed V-Rally 3D but it doesn't run.
I must have got something wrong.
Did you do that de-cert thing? So you can upload the cab.... many thanks!

melgurth
23rd September 2007, 07:47 PM
I've uploaded Jblend to my site (look @ signature) in Downloads/Must Have...

It's not full screen version. I have problems with that and I worry that without help I wont do this.

Enjoy!

melgurth
23rd September 2007, 07:48 PM
right ... i've installed V-Rally 3D but it doesn't run.
I must have got something wrong.
Did you do that de-cert thing? So you can upload the cab.... many thanks!

Those 3D games may work to You but take long time to load so give Jblend some time ;)

thenext1
23rd September 2007, 10:37 PM
Those 3D games may work to You but take long time to load so give Jblend some time ;)

No no, I mean, the game starts and then it crashes, or it exit, without displaying anything at all....!

melgurth
23rd September 2007, 10:44 PM
What device are You using? Have You installed from "my" cab?

thenext1
23rd September 2007, 11:19 PM
What device are You using? Have You installed from "my" cab?

I have an Imate SP5m.... and no, i'm using my files... i'll install from your cab now.... thanks

thenext1
24th September 2007, 12:37 AM
btw, you forgot AJFS_Rom.bin in your cabfile...without that file, AMS doesn't work.

melgurth
24th September 2007, 12:38 PM
btw, you forgot AJFS_Rom.bin in your cabfile...without that file, AMS doesn't work.

Thanks - added this bin and version.txt. Now it print version in about screen.

thenext1 - have You manage to run it?

sx1-doc
24th September 2007, 01:51 PM
I've tried to overwrite the original files of the slightly older, working (but non-3D-compliant) version available at http://www.winmobiletech.com/sekalaiset/JBlendFullScreen.cab with the files. No success - after this, the midlet manager refused to start.

Will try to go on with hacking.

i tried all the jblend around and this one is the only one that starts up and it install any jar file.
BUT after installing i click on the installed game or app ,the jblend exit insted or run the game (tried over 20 games 3D and 2D).

any other versions or hacks.

p.s(i tried the jblend.cab from melgurth webpage ,but it doesnt start at all ,it creates a folder under my device called storage card(my storage card called mini sd karte.)

i am searching the forum and the net since 2 days for 3d java for ppc, but nuthing till now.

melgurth
24th September 2007, 05:24 PM
I've posted cab-alternative version on my website. Check News section for guide and Download for file.

komanguy
24th September 2007, 08:48 PM
Thanks Melgurth for the work.
I'll test your cab and give feedback.

Once again thanks.

Rotwang
24th September 2007, 11:20 PM
Thank you very much!

This is just what I was looking for :). I've tested it in a Fujitsu-Siemens T830 and works fine with my 3D midlets.

Anybody knows if there exists a VM supporting Location and Bluetooth APIs? It would be very interesting to be able to use these APIs, in addition to the APIs that we already have in this version of JBlend.

komanguy
25th September 2007, 12:00 AM
well.

i've tested it with some games on an spv c500.

it works fine but some games cannot start. i guess because the spv don't have enough memory ie i must free about 9 mb to launch the games.

however it works fine.

i congratulate all the contributors for their excellent work.

thanks

viperj
25th September 2007, 12:43 AM
Thank you very much!

This is just what I was looking for :). I've tested it in a Fujitsu-Siemens T830 and works fine with my 3D midlets.

Anybody knows if there exists a VM supporting Location and Bluetooth APIs? It would be very interesting to be able to use these APIs, in addition to the APIs that we already have in this version of JBlend.

The ASUS J502 Has A Java Emulator With Java 3D Mascot Capsule So In Theory it Can Run Any Java Game With 3D Mascot Capusule is what sonyericsson use to play jsr184 and they are able to run every midlet flawlessly If any one can Find The rom maybe it would help for some reason Jblend 3D doesnt to launch on windows mobile 5 or its just the htc s310 it runs on hp ipaq 514 but not properly i can only install jad but not jar it keeps saying Warning! Now This Application does not run in privilage mode. maybe its because io replaced the uncerted exe with the certed exe coz the unsigned would not launch but any way i accidently deleted all my certificates on my device but i have the samsung privilaged root.cer i Got it by Right Clicking on the app and then Digital signatures view then install then i open internet explorer then internet options then content then certificate open then go to trusted root authorised then scroll down to samsung blah blah then export it into the .cer and wola u get the samsung trusted root cert :) http://support.asus.com/download/download.aspx?SLanguage=en-ushttp://za.asus.com/news_show.aspx?id=7212

sx1-doc
25th September 2007, 01:44 AM
so let me tell you my experience with jblend:
i installed jblend on main memory = program doesnt start at all.
the i installed the jblend on storage card and what happened is that everything work perfectly but i notice that it created and installed a folder called storage card on my device,(my memory card called mini-sd-karte).
so it took me while to change all registry keys from storage card/program file/jblend to Mini-SD-Karte/programme/jblend (since my device is german).

and now it work good but i cant upload results to jbenchmark.

million thank for your hard work .

niala6433
25th September 2007, 12:36 PM
Hi everybody !

to melgurth : a very very big thanks for the work ;-)

my feedback :
it works on my htc S710 (vodafone france debranded)
but a curious issue !
when i install a jar from my Storage card, when the install is finished my original file in the card is deleted !

the classic 2D jblend fullscreen do not that (the jar file stay in sd card)

melgurth
25th September 2007, 02:29 PM
Hi everybody !

to melgurth : a very very big thanks for the work ;-)

my feedback :
it works on my htc S710 (vodafone france debranded)
but a curious issue !
when i install a jar from my Storage card, when the install is finished my original file in the card is deleted !

the classic 2D jblend fullscreen do not that (the jar file stay in sd card)

Yes I have that same issue. But I think that this is not issue at all.
Maybe developers make such option because every "normal" midlet should be downloaded from web and installed at once, so it may be free space thing. Orginal Jblend uses only Device space so if You download jar (and it will rest in IE temp) and install it with Jblend it will duble space on device.

This is my theory ;)

viperj
25th September 2007, 02:37 PM
Can Any Gimme This File Because i Cant Run Mascot Capsule 3d Which is Micro3d Game such as vrally3d , die hard4.0 time crisis 3d juiced 3d mini 3d need micro3d to run so can sum one upload it ere tank u bye

owziee
25th September 2007, 02:44 PM
If I install this will I still be able to use Jbed... I'm afraid of loosing the fullscreen abilities for running opera mini & etc... Also Jbed is amazing for running 2D Nokia java games fullscreen, it's compatibility with games originally created for both SE & Nokia is amazing.

This jBlend with JSR-184 support sounds very nice but I'm not willing to sacrifice Jbed for the 3D.

melgurth
25th September 2007, 03:01 PM
If I install this will I still be able to use Jbed... I'm afraid of loosing the fullscreen abilities for running opera mini & etc... Also Jbed is amazing for running 2D Nokia java games fullscreen, it's compatibility with games originally created for both SE & Nokia is amazing.

This jBlend with JSR-184 support sounds very nice but I'm not willing to sacrifice Jbed for the 3D.

Jbed will work after installing Jblend. Only difference is that when You execute jar or jad it will run Jblend. Jbed have super-hiper-busting option, local file instalator so You don't need any association to install midlets.

So - in my opinion - You can install Jblend when You have Jeodek or Jbed

melgurth
25th September 2007, 03:06 PM
Can Any Gimme This File Because i Cant Run Mascot Capsule 3d Which is Micro3d Game such as vrally3d , die hard4.0 time crisis 3d juiced 3d mini 3d need micro3d to run so can sum one upload it ere tank u bye

Served.... :)

komanguy
25th September 2007, 03:54 PM
hello, it's possible to change the java heap size by modifying this registry value:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\JBLEND\JavaHeapSize

you just have to set a lower one (for instance 1572864)

This value is in bytes.


also, jblend doesn't run in full screen. is there a way to allow full screen on spv c500?

thanks

komanguy
25th September 2007, 06:27 PM
how to use micro3d_v3 dll?

have i to copy on the installation folder of jblend?

thanks

viperj
25th September 2007, 06:40 PM
:mad: It does not change anything when its installed on jblend folder and when its on the windows folder can ya help me http://wssupport.sharp.co.jp/download/ws003sh/update_sp2/Update-WS003SH-SP2.exe The SharP W-Zero:o Update with Jblend 3D i Just dont Knw How to extract files from the exe can some one help. Be the way Update-WS003SH-SP2.exe is ment to be opened in the sharp zero so its updated itz original name is wmobileupdater.exe thanks:eek: http://www.lovemyflash.com/lovemyflash.swf?layoutID=28&myurl=defcomg&ColorVR1=0x66CC66&TextVar=Bold&themeID=61

sx1-doc
25th September 2007, 09:12 PM
asus p525 running all 3d java games that i could fined for s60 v3

jawwad_shaukat
26th September 2007, 03:46 PM
sx1-doc, thats a great pleasure to see them running on a ppc. I ve installed the cab on my wizard. Jblend runs fine tried few games but very less work. How have u installed it? Can u chk this game runs or not.

jawwad_shaukat
26th September 2007, 03:57 PM
i think its problem with res. only 320*240 games run, am i right?

SharkExE
26th September 2007, 05:26 PM
This app installs all my midlets and games, but hen I try to run one of them it says "Load VM Failed". So Jblend_VM.exe doesn't run on my iPAQ 2490b with WM6...
What is the problem?

sx1-doc
26th September 2007, 07:55 PM
you m8 you game stuck at sound enable and disable...

some screen shots of the game that does work

sx1-doc
26th September 2007, 07:58 PM
more screen shots.
last one is the where snowboard stuck.

p.s yo gotta have more then 20 mb free to run the game smoothly

jawwad_shaukat
27th September 2007, 02:14 PM
sx1-doc, yes u r right same happened here.
Which games u use nokia or sony's and res 320x240?
Is sound coming fine? I hav problem with sound otherwise, games are runnig fine.
Could u send the v rally u have so i can check it.

All thanks to melgurth and thenext1.

defcomg
27th September 2007, 11:07 PM
LOTZ OF 3D JAVA DOWNLOADZ (http://tegos.ru/java/3D/) if any1 is intrested it got all da lates need for drift real football 3d 2008 n flipen lotz more by da way its a wapsite Vist My site http://Chatdefcomk.mobil.web.tr

Menneisyys
2nd October 2007, 08:06 PM
LOTZ OF 3D JAVA DOWNLOADZ (http://tegos.ru/java/3D/) if any1 is intrested it got all da lates need for drift real football 3d 2008 n flipen lotz more by da way its a wapsite Vist My site http://Chatdefcomk.mobil.web.tr

I've made some VERY thorough tests with several 3D games available at http://tegos.ru/java/3D/ ; you can find the preview of the compatibility results at http://www.winmobiletech.com/092007MidletBible/Jblend.htm

I tested Jblend (ripped from Samsung, where it already supports 3D and available at http://melgurth.ovh.org/ - direct download http://melgurth.ovh.org/files/java/Jblend.cab ) and the also 3D-capable 11-series (of which, I've used the last version available, 1036) of TAO Intent (download at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=327456 ).

As can clearly be seen, TAO Intent 1036 only has the advantage of better sound (and music, which is completely missing from Jblend) emulation and, sometimes (but not always!), better error messages; in every other respect, it is clearly worse; most importantly because of the lack of softkey support, which is a real showstopper in many games.

BTW, does anyone have the time to test more titles and fill in the missing info in the chart?

Menneisyys
3rd October 2007, 02:47 PM
sx1-doc, yes u r right same happened here.
Which games u use nokia or sony's and res 320x240?
Is sound coming fine? I hav problem with sound otherwise, games are runnig fine.
Could u send the v rally u have so i can check it.

All thanks to melgurth and thenext1.

The same problems here

Menneisyys
4th October 2007, 08:09 AM
posted a FULL tutorial of Jblend & 3d games; it's at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334134 . Check it out - you'll like it!

kubik1981
4th October 2007, 09:04 PM
i have a MPx220 do you have a version and can you tell me how to install it.

viperj
7th October 2007, 08:14 PM
Here is A lot of 3d games which work on jblend too
you can try here
Site:http://wan.to/m/games/

Menneisyys
8th October 2007, 10:40 AM
Here is A lot of 3d games which work on jblend too
you can try here
Site:http://wan.to/m/games/

Wowz! Great! Do you have more info on exactly which of them works under Jblend? I'd link it in from the Bible.

Menneisyys
10th October 2007, 08:32 AM
Bad news: I've just been told by the Aplix people they will not offer Jblend as a downloadable, purchasable KVM. That is, wel'll need to stick to rips / hacks.

sx1-doc
10th October 2007, 03:19 PM
Bad news: I've just been told by the Aplix people they will not offer Jblend as a downloadable, purchasable KVM. That is, wel'll need to stick to rips / hacks.
here is the last update from sharp p-zero with (ithink ) the latest release or jblend.

please extract the jblend files from the update.

http://rapidshare.com/files/61573855/Update-WS003SH-SP2.rar.html

makler1981
10th October 2007, 08:06 PM
dear friends i'm trying to install manually jblend, tell me how to import reg file? I have HTC Tornado WM6 Andot. Resco says "unknown error importing registry script file"

Menneisyys
11th October 2007, 07:03 AM
dear friends i'm trying to install manually jblend, tell me how to import reg file? I have HTC Tornado WM6 Andot. Resco says "unknown error importing registry script file"

Why manual install? Why don't you just tap the CAB file?

Menneisyys
11th October 2007, 07:03 AM
here is the last update from sharp p-zero with (ithink ) the latest release or jblend.

please extract the jblend files from the update.

http://rapidshare.com/files/61573855/Update-WS003SH-SP2.rar.html

Thanks, I'll have a look at it.

Menneisyys
11th October 2007, 07:05 AM
i have a MPx220 do you have a version and can you tell me how to install it.

Install a WM5/ WM6 ROM. It's not compatible with pre-WM5 OS'es.

makler1981
11th October 2007, 08:36 AM
Ok if I use cab installation file frim th esame source, where to install it& Can I install it to my Storage card?

niala6433
11th October 2007, 12:19 PM
yes you can !

makler1981
11th October 2007, 02:18 PM
yes you can !

i've installed and it does run. but after installing java midlets they run only with start screen or 2d menus, but everything concerning 3d doesn't work at all. programms just hang.I have "3d need for drift" it run to menu then i can enter sub menu choose car but car apper and not moving when i start race it just show me first screen of race and hangs

niala6433
11th October 2007, 03:10 PM
maybe it's compatibility problem

try with other java 3D game

jbenchmark 3D & HD are running with this version of jblend


NEWS NEWS NEWS
I've found other KVM with support 3D built by esmertek
see my post in smartphone general

viperj
11th October 2007, 06:28 PM
Wowz! Great! Do you have more info on exactly which of them works under Jblend? I'd link it in from the Bible. Im not sure which are 176*220 or 240*320 because my devices are176*220 so haven't tested on 240*320
I haven't tested all but here are the ones i'v tried which work
2006 Real Football
3D Pool Urban Hustle
3D Rally Evolution
Burning Tires 3D
Cupid 3D
DC Bikini Beach Party
Fifa 2007 3D
Midnight Pool
Racing Fever GT 3D
Need For Speed Carbon
The Fast And Furious Drift
Asphalt Street Rules
Asphalt Urban GT 2

The ones i tried and never work are:
CrashBurn Turbo (hangs)
Street Soccer 2 (hangs)
3D Worms Forts (Opens but doesn't load on my device)
CrashBurn Turbo (hangs)

So in total i tried 17 games and 4never worked
You guys can trythe rest and say if works
here is link again:
http://wan.to/m/games/

makler1981
11th October 2007, 07:03 PM
3D Rally Evolution started but still menu works but when i start quick race it shows first screen with speedometr but nothing works (i'm so dissaoited) help me

Menneisyys
13th October 2007, 09:44 AM
3D Rally Evolution started but still menu works but when i start quick race it shows first screen with speedometr but nothing works (i'm so dissaoited) help me

Yup, the same here under Jblend - see my compatibility chart. Under Esmertec jeodek, however, it's (the game too!) working OK - just make sure you answer "No" when it prompts you about an uncaught exception.

makler1981
13th October 2007, 11:26 AM
Yup, the same here under Jblend - see my compatibility chart. Under Esmertec jeodek, however, it's (the game too!) working OK - just make sure you answer "No" when it prompts you about an uncaught exception.

Thank you very much - you've done really good job

Menneisyys
13th October 2007, 03:41 PM
Thank you very much - you've done really good job

You're welcome :) BTW, I'm just posting some screenshots of this game running on my various WM devices.

Menneisyys
13th October 2007, 05:00 PM
here is the last update from sharp p-zero with (ithink ) the latest release or jblend.

please extract the jblend files from the update.

http://rapidshare.com/files/61573855/Update-WS003SH-SP2.rar.html


Error executing program (yes, I've noticed the first EXE file was a ZIP file, but the second, an MFC one, didn't start).

Menneisyys
13th October 2007, 05:00 PM
You're welcome :) BTW, I'm just posting some screenshots of this game running on my various WM devices.

Posted - worth checking out :)

sx1-doc
13th October 2007, 06:10 PM
Error executing program (yes, I've noticed the first EXE file was a ZIP file, but the second, an MFC one, didn't start).


m8 this file is intallation file for sharp p-zero ,(its in chinise or japanese lang.)

normaly to update your sharp p-zero you have to put this file in ppc and lunch it from there and it will extract inside the system updating the file that need to be update it.

if you can extract it on pc( i dont know how to do that ) and take out the jblend_VM.exe and the othere updated files for jblend.

thanks for your time m8

Menneisyys
13th October 2007, 09:42 PM
m8 this file is intallation file for sharp p-zero ,(its in chinise or japanese lang.)

normaly to update your sharp p-zero you have to put this file in ppc and lunch it from there and it will extract inside the system updating the file that need to be update it.

if you can extract it on pc( i dont know how to do that ) and take out the jblend_VM.exe and the othere updated files for jblend.

thanks for your time m8

Thanks, I'll give it a try on another (non-Sharp) device. Hope it extracts itself to the file system.

sx1-doc
17th October 2007, 12:39 PM
here is another update for the sharp p-zero ,
http://wssupport.sharp.co.jp/download/ws011sh/update_sp2/Update-WS011SH-SP2.exe

i hope you can extract it some how and check the files .

10x m8

Menneisyys
19th October 2007, 04:50 PM
Updates posted to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1597253 , with a HUGELY updated 3D compatibility chart. If you are into 3D gaming, make sure you read it!!!

defcomg
19th October 2007, 05:44 PM
i can make jblend_ams.exe fullscreen but not jblend_vm.exe i use sphelper to resize current window itz able to make any wmobile app fullscreen

defcomg
19th October 2007, 06:05 PM
hey i used sphelper it also makez jeodek 3d fullscreen cable i took a pic nw of hummer jump race fullscreen

Menneisyys
19th October 2007, 06:51 PM
hey i used sphelper it also makez jeodek 3d fullscreen cable i took a pic nw of hummer jump race fullscreen

Thanks, great tip, will give it a try too.

defcomg
19th October 2007, 10:03 PM
is it possible to inject c# .net code into the applicatim because therez .net code to force form application to be over the taskbar sphelper iz able to put jeodek 3d over the taskbar however it does not strech it and u need bobsoft sphelper and enative smartoolkit. open sp helper minimize it then open jeodek then long press "0" then go menu then current window then move&zoom then hold action key to bring smartoolkit then minimize it n move it up

Menneisyys
21st October 2007, 02:32 PM
then hold action key to bring smartoolkit then minimize it n move it up

Could you please elaborate on this a bit more?

Using (the latest) version 1.1 of SPHelper ( http://www.bobsoft.com/sphelper/ ) and 1.0.0-RC05 of SmartToolkit ( http://www.smarttoolkit.mobi/download/id/12/SmartToolkit_1_0_0_RC05_4th_exe_only.html ). Are you sure this version of SmartToolkit can be minimized? Which version are you using? Or, what exactly did you mean? Could you please post a more elaborate tutorial on this part?

I've teste dthis on moth my 176*220 s310 and QVGA Vox. Didn't work on either of them.

defcomg
21st October 2007, 09:59 PM
1st.Run sphelper minimize it with the back arrow key. 2nd open jeodek the 3d non fullscreen then long press "0" then the mouse thingy will come up u should see menu on right soft key press that then go to option numa 6 current window then press move and zoom then press the joystick down till the top part kinda dissappearz thatz gud now if u have smartoolkit press the action key or watever the taskbar is assigned to now look at da top part...

defcomg
21st October 2007, 10:09 PM
... the part that kinda dissappeared has now appeared and what do you notice itz over the taskbar just press back to get out of smartoolkit and back to sphelper press down again til jeodek iz completly ova the top part now itz should be sorta fullscreen press 3 to zoom in and now exit sphelper and start the game you want to play in jeodek enjOY OH THIS UNFORTUNATLY DOEZ NOT WORK IN JBLEND CAUZE ITZ AMS AND VM DAT MAKE UP THE JVM.SetFullscreenMode

Menneisyys
22nd October 2007, 08:02 AM
Thanks for the mini-tutorials!

While moving up the upper bondary of the active area (and hiding the upper taskbar) did work on both my s310 and s710, the bottom of the screen remained unused and, what's worse, I didn't gain any new screen estate. That is, of the 320, only some vertical 280 pixels are available for the MIDlets to run - just like with the original case.

Are you sure you are able to use the full screen estate (or, at least, some 300 vertical pixels)?

Menneisyys
22nd October 2007, 08:23 AM
A hugely updated version of the chart posted to http://www.winmobiletech.com/092007MidletBible/CompatibilityAndMain.html ; now (as with the updated3D Compatibily Chart ( http://www.winmobiletech.com/092007MidletBible/Jblend.htm ) posted some days ago), it also contains info on Nokia's MIDlet manager running on the Nokia N95.

storino03
25th December 2007, 01:30 AM
How do you install games to this manager?

--James

jyavenard
27th December 2007, 05:48 PM
direct download http://melgurth.ovh.org/files/java/Jblend.cab ) and the also 3D-capable 11-series (of which, I've used the last version available, 1036)

Hi.

Is the jblend.cab file available from anywhere else? I get an error with this web site that the site is unavailable.

zaharakis
3rd March 2008, 02:35 PM
Hi.

Is the jblend.cab file available from anywhere else? I get an error with this web site that the site is unavailable.

take it from here
http://rapidshare.com/files/96717416/JAWA_APPS.rar


with mini opera inside :)

Perazzi
13th July 2008, 11:15 AM
Has onyone a German Version of JBled Midlet Manager?

ekron
13th July 2008, 05:28 PM
3D games not work with spv c100 (category oxygen) :( I try many games from nokia, sony mobiles... but perfect for 2D games ;)