Windows 95 or 98se emulation?

[TylerC161]

Is there currently a working emulator for either of these operating systems available for windows mobile 6?

I've tried searching all I can and have found no answers yet.

[Dishe]

:rolleyes:
HAHAHAHAHahahahah.... ah, but seriously, no.

[famewolf]

Is there currently a working emulator for either of these operating systems available for windows mobile 6?

I've tried searching all I can and have found no answers yet.


Do you realize thats the equivalent of asking if my pc can emulate a cray mainframe? Running one windows 95 program would use up all the memory and cpu your entire phone has and then some.

Don't make the mistake of thinking a 200mhz arm processor = 200mhz pentium..the pentium is 1000 times faster and keep in mind the average phone has 20-30 meg of memory...the average pc...ok..even a dog old pentium 150 typically had 128 meg of ram available.

Now do you see why the first poster is laughing at you?

[LlamaV3]

Do you realize thats the equivalent of asking if my pc can emulate a cray mainframe? Running one windows 95 program would use up all the memory and cpu your entire phone has and then some.

Don't make the mistake of thinking a 200mhz arm processor = 200mhz pentium..the pentium is 1000 times faster and keep in mind the average phone has 20-30 meg of memory...the average pc...ok..even a dog old pentium 150 typically had 128 meg of ram available.

Now do you see why the first poster is laughing at you?

I had a pentium 90 with 16mb ram.

but anyway, I've seen someone running windows 95 on a pocket pc

http://www.pocketgamer.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3660

dont know if it works on wm6 but it looks like you need a large storage card, a lot of patience, a great cpu, lots of memory and a vga screen at least.

good luck

[TylerC161]

Its not so hard to believe is it?

I had it running on my PSP, so why not my ppc?






Okay, well in that case, whats the best software to access your PC through the internet on your ppc? I used to have this software that worked via wifi for my PSP that would let me operate my windows machine with the psp, but I cant remember its name, and thats not QUITE what im looking for. I want one that will work NON wifi as well

[vlodeck]

you can use pocketdos or dosbox with bochs plugin to make win95 work. Nevertheless you wont get any decent speed on it.

[famewolf]

Its not so hard to believe is it?
Okay, well in that case, whats the best software to access your PC through the internet on your ppc? I used to have this software that worked via wifi for my PSP that would let me operate my windows machine with the psp, but I cant remember its name, and thats not QUITE what im looking for. I want one that will work NON wifi as well


You are probably referring to VNC and there are plenty of clients that run on ppc.

[famewolf]

I had a pentium 90 with 16mb ram.

but anyway, I've seen someone running windows 95 on a pocket pc

http://www.pocketgamer.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3660

dont know if it works on wm6 but it looks like you need a large storage card, a lot of patience, a great cpu, lots of memory and a vga screen at least.

good luck

Yep and your gonna trash the storage card in a short amount of time due to all the read/writes since it's basically using it as a huge swapfile.

[std]

there's the emulator of win32-x86 for win32-arm platform. it called wow86 and developed by GreateVK. it is not ready-to-use product yet. but it successfully run some (even simple) x86-applications without modifications.

p.s. wow86 and applications should be placed into the root folder of your device

[chrismrulz]

Don't make the mistake of thinking a 200mhz arm processor = 200mhz pentium..
the PSP has a lesser speed MIPS processor than some of the available ppc's today.
MIPS being the old one we don't use anymore.
and look at what IT can do, without anything but that to run it's games.

and take a look at the NEC MobilePro 900C.
it has an Intel PXA255 400MHz processor, and runs windows ce .net 4.2.
which basically has the same interface as windows xp with classic skins and does alot of the same things (e.g. the full desktop ms office apps).
i think we underestimate the possibility of today's pxa270 624mhz processors and the mobile graphics chips.

but yer, pocketdos and the likes have shown to run windows 95 and 98.
if they were more optimized it could be a possibility to run basic apps and find a way to convert the instruction set to run more complicated apps.

[Rudegar]

"(e.g. the full desktop ms office apps)."

maybe more full then the office mobile
but i doubt ms would ever compile a full office
nor a full windows for the arm based instructionset

the asm codes are not the same
all the software needs a full recompile to work
unless a full emulator is being used

the maintaince expenses for ms to make something like that
would be staggering

when ms first made windows CE all devices which had CE had the same GUI as NEC MobilePro 900C
but nobody was buying the devices people pref'd the palm way of operating their pda's
so ms made pocketpc series
this was not a step down it was a step besides
CE is not any closer to real windows then pocketpc series it's just different
it's the same core it's the same everything but imput and gui

[famewolf]

the PSP has a lesser speed MIPS processor than some of the available ppc's today.
MIPS being the old one we don't use anymore.
and look at what IT can do, without anything but that to run it's games.

and take a look at the NEC MobilePro 900C.
it has an Intel PXA255 400MHz processor, and runs windows ce .net 4.2.
which basically has the same interface as windows xp with classic skins and does alot of the same things (e.g. the full desktop ms office apps).
i think we underestimate the possibility of today's pxa270 624mhz processors and the mobile graphics chips.

but yer, pocketdos and the likes have shown to run windows 95 and 98.
if they were more optimized it could be a possibility to run basic apps and find a way to convert the instruction set to run more complicated apps.

All very true..but the person asking has a tmobile wing which is a 200 mhz arm chip. The low end of the spectrum (I should know as I have the MDA which is the same chip) and it's gonna run a PC emulator like that CRAPPY as all get out. It has a hard enough time emulating a gameboy. ;) Also in the end would still be easier to "optimize" the code into a ppc version then to try to run bloated regular windows programs where they stopped caring about resources a long time ago.

[Steven855]

"(e.g. the full desktop ms office apps)."

maybe more full then the office mobile
but i doubt ms would ever compile a full office
nor a full windows for the arm based instructionset

the asm codes are not the same
all the software needs a full recompile to work
unless a full emulator is being used

the maintaince expenses for ms to make something like that
would be staggering

when ms first made windows CE all devices which had CE had the same GUI as NEC MobilePro 900C
but nobody was buying the devices people pref'd the palm way of operating their pda's
so ms made pocketpc series
this was not a step down it was a step besides
CE is not any closer to real windows then pocketpc series it's just different
it's the same core it's the same everything but imput and gui
If you want the full version of MS Office, you can try porting Open Office (http://www.openoffice.org or http://porting.openoffice.org) to Windows Mobile. I'm sure a lot of us here at XDA-Developers would like to see that happen.

[Rudegar]

i guess that it would be easier to compile it for linux on our phones :P
being that i think the wm win32 stk is more limited then linux is terms
of which components are alowed