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someguy1015
6th September 2007, 12:02 PM
Hi all,

I am contemplating purchasing this ppc but i wanted to know if the secondary video call camera can be used by MSN to make video calls using the WIFI.

This would be amazing if i could,
anyone knows please help

Thanks you

shockboy2000
6th September 2007, 06:43 PM
the pocket msn doesnt use the camera at all

toyfreak
6th September 2007, 07:33 PM
I have an X7501 (no front camera) but I think Microsoft Portrait will allow video chat. Here's the link:

http://research.microsoft.com/mcom/portrait/

someguy1015
7th September 2007, 01:07 AM
Wow thanks, i will check it out :)
This might be my next phone afterall

someguy1015
7th September 2007, 12:17 PM
I read a little further on this software and it seems to do everything i need it to do. it appears that i can use the secondary camera for video calls using this software via WIFI or wap connection as long as its fast enough.

You can talk to others on MSN and create video chat sessions by only sending yours, or requesting other users, or both way so both participants can see each other.

Thanks again for the link!!!!

This app should work for all PPC's although i am yet to try as i have not had a chance yet. :D

wgary
7th September 2007, 04:01 PM
I read a little further on this software and it seems to do everything i need it to do. it appears that i can use the secondary camera for video calls using this software via WIFI or wap connection as long as its fast enough.

You can talk to others on MSN and create video chat sessions by only sending yours, or requesting other users, or both way so both participants can see each other.

Thanks again for the link!!!!

This app should work for all PPC's although i am yet to try as i have not had a chance yet. :D
... but doesn't appear to connect to PC's except in chat mode. Anyone else figure that out??

dxf289
9th September 2007, 01:56 AM
I downloaded the MS Portrait 3.1 beta but it doesn't recognize the camera.

toyfreak
14th September 2007, 06:46 PM
I have the X7501 and now that the X7500 is down to $960 on mobileplanet, I am going through "front camera envy." The more people who tell me this feature is useless in the USA, the better I will feel.

Is anyone using the front camera in any way here in the USA (or anywhere else for that matter)?

wgary
14th September 2007, 08:37 PM
I have the X7501 and now that the X7500 is down to $960 on mobileplanet, I am going through "front camera envy." The more people who tell me this feature is useless in the USA, the better I will feel.

Is anyone using the front camera in any way here in the USA (or anywhere else for that matter)?
Sending people pictures of myself?? (once)

mahjong
15th September 2007, 12:17 AM
Sending people pictures of myself?? (once)

The camera is for videoconferencing in 3G technology.

In the middle of the conversation you can change the image you are sending from the front camera to the rear camera so you can show the person you are talking something in front of you (back of the X7500). For sample when I'm talking to someone I can show that person the landscape I'm seeing. Or if some one want to report a computer error just change to the rear camera a point it to the PC screen and shows me the error.

I don't know... there are many samples where videoconferencing is a good posibility for the X7500.

I wasn't aware that the US taste of HTC Advantage, the X7501, got no videoconferencing.

Best Regards,
mahjong

wgary
15th September 2007, 12:34 AM
The camera is for videoconferencing in 3G technology.

In the middle of the conversation you can change the image you are sending from the front camera to the rear camera so you can show the person you are talking something in front of you (back of the X7500). For sample when I'm talking to someone I can show that person the landscape I'm seeing. Or if some one want to report a computer error just change to the rear camera a point it to the PC screen and shows me the error.

I don't know... there are many samples where videoconferencing is a good posibility for the X7500.

I wasn't aware that the US taste of HTC Advantage, the X7501, got no videoconferencing.

Best Regards,
mahjong
Very few options for videoconferencing in the US. I've been searching... Is this built into your cellphone plan?

eaglesteve
15th September 2007, 01:11 AM
The camera is for videoconferencing in 3G technology.

In the middle of the conversation you can change the image you are sending from the front camera to the rear camera so you can show the person you are talking something in front of you (back of the X7500). For sample when I'm talking to someone I can show that person the landscape I'm seeing. Or if some one want to report a computer error just change to the rear camera a point it to the PC screen and shows me the error.

I don't know... there are many samples where videoconferencing is a good posibility for the X7500.

I wasn't aware that the US taste of HTC Advantage, the X7501, got no videoconferencing.

Best Regards,
mahjong

Good point ,mahjong. I know of a car body dent touch up guy who asked his prospective client with video conference phone to show him the dent and give quotation over the phone without having to physically travel to their house to inspect the dent.

mahjong
15th September 2007, 09:03 AM
Very few options for videoconferencing in the US. I've been searching... Is this built into your cellphone plan?

Man I'm from Europe and I'm not aware about how cellphone systems works in the States. Sorry.

In my case, in Spain, the 3 mayor providers got data plans and videoconferencing is considered data connections so goes in that plan.

But I can tell you at least in Spain and I think in the whole Europe since we share the same 3G technology (called UMTS) the videoconferencing on cellphones is being used much and much more everyday.

Now the European providers are instaling 3,5G technology called HSDPA which give you more bandwidth on the same prices so I guess video calls is a winning bet.

UMTS is 384 kbps and HSDPA us around 3.6 mbps bandwidth, just for you to know.

Best Regards,
mahjong

toyfreak
15th September 2007, 08:08 PM
Man I'm from Europe and I'm not aware about how cellphone systems works in the States. Sorry.

In my case, in Spain, the 3 mayor providers got data plans and videoconferencing is considered data connections so goes in that plan.

But I can tell you at least in Spain and I think in the whole Europe since we share the same 3G technology (called UMTS) the videoconferencing on cellphones is being used much and much more everyday.

Now the European providers are instaling 3,5G technology called HSDPA which give you more bandwidth on the same prices so I guess video calls is a winning bet.

UMTS is 384 kbps and HSDPA us around 3.6 mbps bandwidth, just for you to know.

Best Regards,
mahjong

Mahjong:

You're making all of us in the USA very jealous!

mahjong
16th September 2007, 08:39 AM
Mahjong:

You're making all of us in the USA very jealous!

Hmmm We don't have TacoBell in Spain yet... That's sucks about my country!!!

ha ha ha ha ha ;-)

wgary
17th September 2007, 12:11 AM
Hmmm We don't have TacoBell in Spain yet... That's sucks about my country!!!

ha ha ha ha ha ;-)I feel your pain. :) For a "world leader in technology," the US seems to consistently fall behind the curve. But then we have to make sure that our big telcos can extract maximal money from the consumers while delivering minimal service.

etasquare
30th September 2007, 12:53 AM
I downloaded the MS Portrait 3.1 beta but it doesn't recognize the camera.

:confused: does it mean it wouldn't work with the front camera? i'm trying to decide if i want to get the 7500 or 7501.

has anyone else try this?

thanks
eva

fards
30th September 2007, 01:23 AM
you all seem to have missed the true purpose of the front camera, shows your ages ;)

it's obviously so you can see when you're trimming your nasal hair...

video conferencing, phooey! what will they think of next?

Pantaloonie
30th September 2007, 01:51 AM
you all seem to have missed the true purpose of the front camera, shows your ages ;)

it's obviously so you can see when you're trimming your nasal hair...

video conferencing, phooey! what will they think of next?

Heh, what a great idea... I've been meaning to buy a new shaving mirror, now I don't have to!

(I'll be on here next week, complaining that i dropped my Ameo into a sink full of soapy water....)

shortyboy
7th November 2007, 01:38 PM
they better release a secondary mini usb cam for those x7501 users without the front cam.