Sprint Mogul EVDO Rev.A upgrade - any ETA?

[ScottC]

I know Sprint says "soon", but has anyone heard rumors when we can expect the EVDO Rev.A upgrade for our Moguls?

[ajbent86]

i would like to know as well

[nonegiven]

I heard November, but that's optimistic. Might not be until Q1 08

[92GTA]

According to some SPCS RF engeineers I spoke with at my corporate office the other week, EVDO Rev. A was turned on in my area on August 15th however they said it takes atleast 30 days to optimize the towers. So I'd expect sometime after Sept. 15th.

[dcd1182]

evdo rev a in your area has nothing to do with a mogul ROM.

[ScottC]

Thanks folks. I guess we just need to be patient :D

Fingers crossed they add some more goodies to the upgrade (enabling GPS would be nice).

[nonegiven]

No GPS for the Mogul until 08.

[JSarella]

hey, where are you getting this info from? I think that the Rev. A update should come out when the HTC Vogue drops for sprint, but I am not sure about the GPS, because Telenav has started selling an external GPS reciever for it(6800).

[Richard3]

I read where people use like tomtom and garmin xt with a reciever and works fine? Is it that mogul just doesn't have builtin receiver?

[ScottC]

I read where people use like tomtom and garmin xt with a reciever and works fine? Is it that mogul just doesn't have builtin receiver?

It should have a built in receiver, it just isn't activated (or it may not have a GPS antenna). External receivers work just fine, but having it integrated would be much nicer of course.

[utexascg]

i love how everyone seems to think they "know" when it's coming and what to expect. The fact is that there has been no official date or even an "official" estimate as to when we can expect it. Every person you ask has a different answer and everyone swears their source is legit. Well..... times ticking and no one's been correct yet.

[storino03]

On SprintUsers, one user is saying Oct 15th, for both Rev A and GPS to be added in the update.

--James

[jayluv76]

My Sprint contacts once told me that the RevA update would come via a PRL? I'm not sure how that could be done but from reading here, it sounds like a bunch of bunk.

[ScottC]

My Sprint contacts once told me that the RevA update would come via a PRL? I'm not sure how that could be done but from reading here, it sounds like a bunch of bunk.

That is indeed BS.

It has to be through a radio rom upgrade, and those still can't be done OTA.

I suspect it'll be an an entire rom upgrade package that'll also take care of some bugs.

[halfdriven]

Rev A has been active in KC, Miami FL and a few other locations sense last years super bowl. 6800 is Rev A compatible and a PRL update will give you access to Rev A.

[92GTA]

Well a new PRL came out at the end of last week, the version is in my sig, I don't think that's it though...

[ScottC]

Rev A has been active in KC, Miami FL and a few other locations sense last years super bowl. 6800 is Rev A compatible and a PRL update will give you access to Rev A.


I simply don't believe that a PRL update is all it needs. It has to be enabled in the Radio, Rev.A has been in some cities for ages and it wouldn't make sense to not have it enabled in the PRL's of the mogul.

[keishou]

PRL is just a prefered roaming list... as an end user, you don't see any benefits. The Mogul (6800) already know which towers are Rev.A, it just doesn't take advantage of it... yet. The upcoming sw will update the radio to take advantage of Rev.A

[steb0ne]

I agree. I rom update is needed. I've heard from a Sprint rep they had planned on a Rev A. update for the Mogul 9/28 (but that might not be true, we all know how Sprint rep do)

[halfdriven]

PRL is just a prefered roaming list... as an end user, you don't see any benefits. The Mogul (6800) already know which towers are Rev.A, it just doesn't take advantage of it... yet. The upcoming sw will update the radio to take advantage of Rev.AWrong, how could the PRL not effect the user.

[bbatchelder]

I am getting pissed, as the Sprint CSR I bought my Mogul from said (with authority) that RevA and GPS would be available October 1st.

I am a heavy TeleNav user, and now I am stuck lugging around my Garmin Nuvi when I travel for business.

[keishou]

Wrong, how could the PRL not effect the user.Usually when there is a change in PRL, it is most likely a change in roaming agreements with the other carriers in certain markets... Example, say the current prl is 60601, then there is a new prl 60602 which lowers roaming costs to a carrier in the state of Montana. If I live in Texas, the 60602 PRL will not benefit me in anyway, unless I plan to travel to Montana... but then again as an end user I'm still not effect by it, its just costing your carrier less to use another carrier's tower.

[Off Da HuyChoK]

It is now October 22nd, where is the Update?
I swear... I hate Sprint.

[kams01]

Ok so the manager i spoke with who is incharge of the mogul development team now updates me and says that the revA GPS rom update has been pushed back to Q1 08. the ROM update that should come out this week is to fix some issues like BT, etc. i am constantly bugging him about updates so ill post once i have a definate date

[CTinMich]

Does anyone know will the new ROM (WHENEVER it comes out) be posted to a HTC website, Sprint website, or other???

[Off Da HuyChoK]

I believe it will be posted here: http://www.america.htc.com/support/mogul/software-downloads.html

[rsclark3]

I believe that the October 07 ROM has just been posted.

[Off Da HuyChoK]

http://download.america.htc.com/RUU_TITAN_SPRINT_WWE_2.16.651.0_1.47.00_SPCS_NV124 _0506_SPL106_Ship.exe

Found this on PPCGEEKS.

Enjoy.

[kams01]

so folks as promised the BT ROM posted today... so good luck with the upgrade. i will keep posting on the next ROM update as i have more news.

[analuisapm]

Hi,
I have a mac, so I need a cab file to install the new ROM on my Mogul. I could'nt extract it from the exe (with the file juicer). Could anyone help me getting the cab file pls?

[ScottC]

Hi,
I have a mac, so I need a cab file to install the new ROM on my Mogul. I could'nt extract it from the exe (with the file juicer). Could anyone help me getting the cab file pls?

No such thing as a rom in a cab.

Find someone with a PC.

[defaultdotxbe]

Hi,
I have a mac, so I need a cab file to install the new ROM on my Mogul. I could'nt extract it from the exe (with the file juicer). Could anyone help me getting the cab file pls?
you can also try virtual PC or WINe (if they make that for mac)

but honestly your best bet is to find a PC to use

[halfdriven]

the Rev A push is due in the next 2 to 3 weeks

[storino03]

Rev A / AGPS is scheduled for a January 2008 release.

--James

[halfdriven]

Rev A / AGPS is scheduled for a January 2008 release.

--James

Bad intel, it will be out soon

[dblock3nine]

Watup guys, I posted this on ppcgeeks yesterday and thought I should put it here too. Yesterday I had a nice long time with someone related to HTC and he told me that Rev A update is coming out in Dec for mogul with another bluetooth fix(this fix he said may come out earlier) and Rev A update for touch in Jan. He said that for anyone who didn't update to the new ROM they should just wait till Dec. I just thought I would share what I found out, believe me if you want. The guy seem like he knew what he was talking about and he has a touch and mogul of his own. He said that he was pretty sure on that info. Well I was talking to him I told him if he knew about the new BT problems that happened when you updated the rom and he said he just got a e-mail about it this morning and that HTC is working on it but no date on when that will be fix only that it maybe on the rev. a update. Also he told that sprint tv for mogul should be put in the mogul update. I can't tell you who he was but the reason I had a chance to talk to him was because I work for sprint . I cant wait for the update :-D

[neilson]

Bad intel, it will be out soon
How close are you to "the circle"? You're only as good as your word when speaking online, because your word is all you have to offer. Be correct in your info, and we'll be honoring you for a very long time.

[halfdriven]

I am pretty close to “the circle” Mr. Neilson.

[Noiro]

I am pretty close to “the circle” Mr. Neilson.

Alright, I'm putting my blind faith in your word there. I hope what you say is true, this is a very nerve pinching wait.

[neilson]

Alright, I'm putting my blind faith in your word there. I hope what you say is true, this is a very nerve pinching wait.
Put your stock in the info, I was able to verify it and it is true. Hold me to my word, because that's all that I have to give you guys on here. Just be patient for 2-3 more weeks. You'll be getting EV-DO Rev. A with your Turkey.

[THE_CEO]

Put your stock in the info, I was able to verify it and it is true. Hold me to my word, because that's all that I have to give you guys on here. Just be patient for 2-3 more weeks. You'll be getting EV-DO Rev. A with your Turkey.

Is this the navigation piece that everyone is waiting for?

CEO

[neilson]

Is this the navigation piece that everyone is waiting for?

CEO
Rev. A is all I'll stand by.

[klmsu19]

ok so i guess all you "insiders" know more than HTc themselves who clearly posted NO updates until 2008.......

[neilson]

ok so i guess all you "insiders" know more than HTc themselves who clearly posted NO updates until 2008.......
The Rev. A upgrade is strictly going to be affecting HARDWARE. From what it sounds like, it won't involve any ROM upgrade. Just a Hardware activation trigger.

[phillyphill39]

q1 2008, thats what my g.f says as she works at the corp location in reston va.

[neilson]

q1 2008, thats what my g.f says as she works at the corp location in reston va.
The info I got came out of Overland Park, and I'm not sure if Reston has the "equal" weigh that they claim it has.

[Musicman247]

The Rev. A upgrade is strictly going to be affecting HARDWARE. From what it sounds like, it won't involve any ROM upgrade. Just a Hardware activation trigger.

What, you think it'll be OTA? I don't think so. When I purchased my Mogul they were saying that ROM update would come out to make the radio Rev. A. I could be wrong, but I don't think it come in any other package than a ROM update.

[ScottC]

The Rev. A upgrade is strictly going to be affecting HARDWARE. From what it sounds like, it won't involve any ROM upgrade. Just a Hardware activation trigger.

Once again, I call BS on that. I simply don't buy that our Moguls already have Rev.A in them that just needs to be "activated". I still believe it'll be a full blown rom update with a radio upgrade.

[halfdriven]

ok so i guess all you "insiders" know more than HTc themselves who clearly posted NO updates until 2008.......

What do you hope to achieve by calling out individuals that offer you information? You know you should not take everything you read on the internet to heart, if you do, I have some land I would like to talk to you about.

[Foetus]

Put your stock in the info, I was able to verify it and it is true. Hold me to my word, because that's all that I have to give you guys on here. Just be patient for 2-3 more weeks. You'll be getting EV-DO Rev. A with your Turkey.

I dunno... I get my turkey in two more days. EVDO Rev. A would be a nice dessert. Any update to this?

[tpbklake]

I dunno... I get my turkey in two more days. EVDO Rev. A would be a nice dessert. Any update to this?

This was posted today on the Official Sprint Forum... (http://forums.buzzaboutwireless.com/baw/board/message?board.id=SmartPhones&message.id=2262#M2262)

Sprint and HTC regret any inconvenience customers have recently experienced with the Mogul. HTC is working on a new version of the software ROM for the Mogul which incorporates enhancements for Bluetooth performance and corrects issues that were unintentionally created by ROM version 2.16.651.0 (posted on HTC’s website on October 24). Both Sprint and HTC have begun testing the new software and are targeting to make it available for download by the end of November. Once fully tested the download will be made available at: http://www.america.htc.com/support/mogul/software-downloads.html

As a short-term solution, customers who downloaded the ROM version 2.16 should download the previous ROM version 2.09.651.3 available at the link above. This will restore previous functionality to the device until a new version is complete.

Additionally, HTC is currently developing a separate ROM update which enables the EV-DO Rev. A and GPS capabilities that are already built into the Mogul hardware. Sprint and HTC plan to make this software ROM available in early 1Q 2008. We would also like to extend our thanks to those customers that have taken the time to identify and report these issues to us.

So according to Sprint Development, the Rev A ROM will be Q1 2008, not this month...

[nonegiven]

Put your stock in the info, I was able to verify it and it is true. Hold me to my word, because that's all that I have to give you guys on here. Just be patient for 2-3 more weeks. You'll be getting EV-DO Rev. A with your Turkey.
you = sucker

[halfdriven]

you = sucker

way to show your ignorance

[nonegiven]

way to show your ignorance

It's past Thanksgiving and no Rev.A. Way to show your lack of intelligence. Moron.

[neilson]

It's past Thanksgiving and no Rev.A. Way to show your lack of intelligence. Moron.
What if I told you that I'll have something to offer on Monday/Tuesday? And by being a "doubter", you owe us a major attitude adjustment if that something ends up being very benefital to yourself and all Mogul owners? Although, your brazen attitude is not gonna make you any connections within the inner circles of development so you might want to lighten up just because it's "the right thing to do".

[defaultdotxbe]

What if I told you that I'll have something to offer on Monday/Tuesday? And by being a "doubter", you owe us a major attitude adjustment if that something ends up being very benefital to yourself and all Mogul owners? Although, your brazen attitude is not gonna make you any connections within the inner circles of development so you might want to lighten up just because it's "the right thing to do".
is it as accurate as the last something you had for us?

[wsparvis]

What if I told you that I'll have something to offer on Monday/Tuesday? And by being a "doubter", you owe us a major attitude adjustment if that something ends up being very benefital to yourself and all Mogul owners? Although, your brazen attitude is not gonna make you any connections within the inner circles of development so you might want to lighten up just because it's "the right thing to do".

Although you missed your "Hold me to my word" Thanksgiving date, if we have Rev A on Mon/Tues, I'll still think you are tightly connected with the "in crowd" at Sprint"! I don't believe it, but I can hope!

[TC1]

What if I told you that I'll have something to offer on Monday/Tuesday? And by being a "doubter", you owe us a major attitude adjustment if that something ends up being very benefital to yourself and all Mogul owners? Although, your brazen attitude is not gonna make you any connections within the inner circles of development so you might want to lighten up just because it's "the right thing to do".

Something to offer us? <eye roll>

It's already public knowledge that a new ROM is coming out next week to fix the various issues, including BT, KB, alarm, etc.

It's already public knowledge that there'll be an additional ROM to enable EVDO Rev A and (some) GPS capability in Q1 2008. My intel tells me that this ROM revision is partially dependent on Microsoft to update the OS. The update might even include a new user interface, ie, WM6.1. If it comes out sooner than later, great, but I wouldn't bet the farm on that one.

Some of us have knowledge too ;)

P.S. One more piece of intel... HTC corporate has already mentioned their "intention" back in June to eventually port the TouchFlo interface to all their WM6 phones (which would include the Mogul). Just another rumor to throw out there :D

P.P.S Please don't say Mogul II (with increased RAM)...

[nonegiven]

What if I told you that I'll have something to offer on Monday/Tuesday? And by being a "doubter", you owe us a major attitude adjustment if that something ends up being very benefital to yourself and all Mogul owners? Although, your brazen attitude is not gonna make you any connections within the inner circles of development so you might want to lighten up just because it's "the right thing to do".
I sure hope that you realize that you promised Rev.A before Thanksgiving. We already know about the maintenance release next week and that Rev.A is still about 6 months away. Do us all a favor and take your BS elsewhere.

[ScottC]

Put your stock in the info, I was able to verify it and it is true. Hold me to my word, because that's all that I have to give you guys on here. Just be patient for 2-3 more weeks. You'll be getting EV-DO Rev. A with your Turkey.

All my turkey is now officially gone (finished the last of it on a sandwich) and still no Rev.A.

What's that about holding you to your word?

No offense, and I'm sure we all appreciate anyone that can provide RELIABLE intel. here, but I really hope you are not just BS'ing us.

[TC1]

All my turkey is now officially gone (finished the last of it on a sandwich) and still no Rev.A.



Damnit... I've still got some turkey... and no Rev A.

Life is cruel sometimes :(

:D

[Foetus]

What if I told you that I'll have something to offer on Monday/Tuesday? And by being a "doubter", you owe us a major attitude adjustment if that something ends up being very benefital to yourself and all Mogul owners? Although, your brazen attitude is not gonna make you any connections within the inner circles of development so you might want to lighten up just because it's "the right thing to do".

Well, I for one am still a believer. Neilson announced that we'd have it in time for turkey, and then about 2 weeks later, HTC announces the ROM will be out at the end of November. I can't believe how rude some people are on this forum to someone that obviously has at least *some* insight. I can't believe that someone can be a few days "off" and they get torn apart for it. This is why companies *don't* announce stuff prior to it's release. At any rate, the bluetooth and memory leak are my only real qualms with the Mogul, and if only *one* of those gets fixed in the next week or two, I'm a happy customer...

[defaultdotxbe]

Well, I for one am still a believer. Neilson announced that we'd have it in time for turkey, and then about 2 weeks later, HTC announces the ROM will be out at the end of November. I can't believe how rude some people are on this forum to someone that obviously has at least *some* insight. I can't believe that someone can be a few days "off" and they get torn apart for it. This is why companies *don't* announce stuff prior to it's release. At any rate, the bluetooth and memory leak are my only real qualms with the Mogul, and if only *one* of those gets fixed in the next week or two, I'm a happy customer...
HTC and/or sprint say Rev.A and GPS in Q1 2008 (and they said this before Neilson made his "with your turkey" pronouncement) if we get anything this week it will be a fixed 2.16 rom (IE no Rev.A, no GPS)

if im wrong ill be the first to apologize, however Neilson has so far not shown himself to have ANY insight at all

[nonegiven]

HTC and/or sprint say Rev.A and GPS in Q1 2008 (and they said this before Neilson made his "with your turkey" pronouncement) if we get anything this week it will be a fixed 2.16 rom (IE no Rev.A, no GPS)

if im wrong ill be the first to apologize, however Neilson has so far not shown himself to have ANY insight at all

Very true. Notice how neilson hasn't responded to this thread in a few days. I'm guessing that he'll be back in 6 months saying that he meant Thanksgiving 2008.

[neilson]

Very true. Notice how neilson hasn't responded to this thread in a few days. I'm guessing that he'll be back in 6 months saying that he meant Thanksgiving 2008.
No I'm right here, I just want you to understand that I'm a middleman in all this. Until I hear back from my contact, I can't report anything new. If I don't hear anything by the end of the week(and my contact does read this board very often), I will disclose more info on them and they understand that I will do it too. I have a lot of trust in my contact however, so I don't see things coming to that.

When I know, you'll all know too.

[nonegiven]

So you're sticking to your Rev.A and GPS update before the end of the week story?

[neilson]

So you're sticking to your Rev.A and GPS update before the end of the week story?
Give it time, and if nothing comes I will name names on my source and as I said, they understand that's my end of the deal if they don't come through as promised.

[nonegiven]

Give it time, and if nothing comes I will name names on my source and as I said, they understand that's my end of the deal if they don't come through as promised.
Just give us a yes or no. Are you sticking to your Rev.A and GPS update before the end of the week claim?

[Foetus]

Just give us a yes or no. Are you sticking to your Rev.A and GPS update before the end of the week claim?

Technically, neilson only ever "stuck to" Rev. A...

[xdapro]

Just give us a yes or no. Are you sticking to your Rev.A and GPS update before the end of the week claim?

What does it matter if hes sticking to it or not??? to be quite honest, Sprint has the final call and my guess would be that his guess is as good as ours

[Foetus]

What does it matter if hes sticking to it or not??? to be quite honest, Sprint has the final call and my guess would be that his guess is as good as ours

Assuming he either works for Sprint or knows someone that is developing the update... no. Your best guess would still be a guess... an "insider" would, in fact, have some viable, useful information. Again, I feel I need to point out to people that *BEFORE* HTC updated their site with the information about an update coming out at the end of November, neilson had basically said the same thing.

[nonegiven]

Assuming he either works for Sprint or knows someone that is developing the update... no. Your best guess would still be a guess... an "insider" would, in fact, have some viable, useful information. Again, I feel I need to point out to people that *BEFORE* HTC updated their site with the information about an update coming out at the end of November, neilson had basically said the same thing.
I never saw HTC promise a Rev.A update by the end of November. Link please.

[Foetus]

I never saw HTC promise a Rev.A update by the end of November. Link please.

I didn't say they did... Sprint promised an "update". nielson said there would be an update... Granted, he implied that it would be a Rev. A update... but who knows? I'm just saying... why not give people the benefit of the doubt rather than insult them and make it even *more* commonplace to have people with information keep their mouths shut?

[nonegiven]

I didn't say they did... Sprint promised an "update". nielson said there would be an update... Granted, he implied that it would be a Rev. A update... but who knows? I'm just saying... why not give people the benefit of the doubt rather than insult them and make it even *more* commonplace to have people with information keep their mouths shut?

nielson didn't "imply" that the update would include Rev.A, he stated it in black and white. He also claimed that it would be released before Thanksgiving. Neither one of those are true. He's 0 for 2. Look familiar:

Put your stock in the info, I was able to verify it and it is true. Hold me to my word, because that's all that I have to give you guys on here. Just be patient for 2-3 more weeks. You'll be getting EV-DO Rev. A with your Turkey.

You might also want to check out Page 1. My information was dead-on. I knew of an update coming out in November but chances were that the Rev.A update wouldn't be out until Q1 2008.

[lazee]

why are you all still arguing about what neilson had said? we all got the verification from htc themselves. So why are you all still "tripping" about a misinformed personnel? I think you all just making up excuses to post to heighten your status, "junior member, member, senior member...etc..." lolz...correct me if I'm wrong.......But if not then I guess, you all are bunch of suckers for putting your hopes on a random poster on a forum.

[partnerinflight]

why are you all still arguing about what neilson had said? we all got the verification from htc themselves. So why are you all still "tripping" about a misinformed personnel? I think you all just making up excuses to post to heighten your status, "junior member, member, senior member...etc..." lolz...correct me if I'm wrong.......But if not then I guess, you all are bunch of suckers for putting your hopes on a random poster on a forum.

Yes, but it does make for a very entertaining read.

[neilson]

Yes, but it does make for a very entertaining read.
As I said, if my source doesn't come through by this weekend, I will post his info for all to see and you guys can take it from there.

[wsparvis]

So you're sticking to your Rev.A and GPS update before the end of the week story?

Didn't he say Mon/Tue? (And Tue is now in the past here on the East coast!) ;)

[wsparvis]

Assuming he either works for Sprint or knows someone that is developing the update... no. Your best guess would still be a guess... an "insider" would, in fact, have some viable, useful information. Again, I feel I need to point out to people that *BEFORE* HTC updated their site with the information about an update coming out at the end of November, neilson had basically said the same thing.

Not correct - he said Rev A by Thanksgiving, they said BT by end of month.

[wsparvis]

I didn't say they did... Sprint promised an "update". nielson said there would be an update... Granted, he implied that it would be a Rev. A update... but who knows? I'm just saying... why not give people the benefit of the doubt rather than insult them and make it even *more* commonplace to have people with information keep their mouths shut?

He stated, not implied, Rev A.

I'd prefer that people with bad info not share it.

[neilson]

He stated, not implied, Rev A.

I'd prefer that people with bad info not share it.
Again, which is why if I don't get anything on my end from my source, I will out him on here. Yes I understand that the implications would involve being cut out of the loop but if that's what I have to do in order to save face because the goods could not be delivered then so be it.

What say you guys?

[nonegiven]

Again, which is why if I don't get anything on my end from my source, I will out him on here. Yes I understand that the implications would involve being cut out of the loop but if that's what I have to do in order to save face because the goods could not be delivered then so be it.

What say you guys?
What "loop" are you talking about? Your information is 100% wrong. You were probably talking to a Sprint tech who read something on the internet.

My source was much more credible and nailed the dates (as long as the bug-fix ROM makes it out before the end of this month).

[wsparvis]

Again, which is why if I don't get anything on my end from my source, I will out him on here. Yes I understand that the implications would involve being cut out of the loop but if that's what I have to do in order to save face because the goods could not be delivered then so be it.

What say you guys?

IMO, let it go. Move on.

We already know you posted bad info from an unreliable source - I for one couldn't care less who that source is.

"Outing" your source does nothing productive - it does not regain credibility for you. But, conversely, being cut out of a mis-information loop doesn't hurt you either!

[neilson]

IMO, let it go. Move on.

We already know you posted bad info from an unreliable source - I for one couldn't care less who that source is.

"Outing" your source does nothing productive - it does not regain credibility for you. But, conversely, being cut out of a mis-information loop doesn't hurt you either!
Well tough. If I don't get anything by the weekend, you will know.

[wsparvis]

Well tough. If I don't get anything by the weekend, you will know.


Hey - don't get bent because I offered my opinion directly in response to your request for opinions! If you don't want opinions, don't ask. ;)

[tpbklake]

Well tough. If I don't get anything by the weekend, you will know.

Well the ROM has been posted and here's the details...

The software posted below provides several key fixes for your Mogul:


Improves Bluetooth compatibility and performance.
Corrects keypad function when using On Demand.
Corrects Alarm so it will ring when device is charging.
Corrects several Sprint Music performance issues.
Enables Sprint Music store to function on early production devices
Adds new Sprint start up and sign off screens

Additionally, HTC is currently developing a separate ROM update which enables the EV-DO Rev. A and GPS capabilities that are already built into the Mogul hardware. Sprint and HTC plan to make this software ROM available in early 1Q 2008. Please bookmark this page for easy reference.
Posted November 29, 2007

No Rev A yet.

[nonegiven]

Additionally, HTC is currently developing a separate ROM update which enables the EV-DO Rev. A and GPS capabilities that are already built into the Mogul hardware. Sprint and HTC plan to make this software ROM available in early 1Q 2008. Please bookmark this page for easy reference.
Posted November 29, 2007

No Rev A yet.

Just like I stated months ago. Time for neilson to "out" his super-secret BS source.

[neilson]

halfdriven
He's a member of the Sprint Nextel RF Automation Strategy Team.

I have his work and cell #s and his company e-mail from Sprint. I will not post those details and will not disclose that info via PM either.

[dcd1182]

i really wasnt going to post here but thats just hillarious

your source is the guy who posted this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1517878&postcount=15
"6800 is Rev A compatible and a PRL update will give you access to Rev A."

case closed here

[nonegiven]

halfdriven
He's a member of the Sprint Nextel RF Automation Strategy Team.

I have his work and cell #s and his company e-mail from Sprint. I will not post those details and will not disclose that info via PM either.
In case you didn't get it, no one cares. You can go away now. Take halfdriven with you.

[jjlwork]

New 2.17 ROM is out!

ftp://Mogulrom:sprinttitan@files164.cyberlynk.net/RUU_TITAN_SPRINT_WWE_2.17.651.0_RS_TITAN_SPCS_1.47 .01_Ship.exe

Mogul™ by HTC (Sprint) Software Downloads
Why update the ROM on your device?The software posted below provides several key fixes for your Mogul:


Improves Bluetooth compatibility and performance.
Corrects keypad function when using On Demand.
Corrects Alarm so it will ring when device is charging.
Corrects several Sprint Music performance issues.
Enables Sprint Music store to function on early production devices
Adds new Sprint start up and sign off screens

[neilson]

In case you didn't get it, no one cares. You can go away now. Take halfdriven with you.
How about if you don't like it, you don't have to say anything because you're coming across as extremely crass. I'd like to know what you've contributed to this board that puts you on such a level to have that attitude. I thought I was doing a favor, halfdriven let me down, and now he won't be able to at least go to other members and try to sell them on "inside info from Sprint" regardless of his position.

[Foetus]

How about if you don't like it, you don't have to say anything because you're coming across as extremely crass. I'd like to know what you've contributed to this board that puts you on such a level to have that attitude. I thought I was doing a favor, halfdriven let me down, and now he won't be able to at least go to other members and try to sell them on "inside info from Sprint" regardless of his position.

In all fairness... you should have stated that you got your information from another poster on the forums. You certainly alluded to knowing someone personally that you knew to be reliable.

[nonegiven]

In all fairness... you should have stated that you got your information from another poster on the forums. You certainly alluded to knowing someone personally that you knew to be reliable.

True dat. He also missed my highly accurate information that was posted months ago on Page 1 of this thread.

[halfdriven]

Nelson sorry about the delay getting back to you, and sorry for the negative feedback and opinions you received from Foetus, nonegiven, dcd1182, just so you know the rev a upgrade works great and is very quick on the network

[ScottC]

Nelson sorry about the delay getting back to you, and sorry for the negative feedback and opinions you received from Foetus, nonegiven, dcd1182, just so you know the rev a upgrade works great and is very quick on the network

What software version?

What speeds are you getting?

How is the GPS?

[Dishe]

Nelson sorry about the delay getting back to you, and sorry for the negative feedback and opinions you received from Foetus, nonegiven, dcd1182, just so you know the rev a upgrade works great and is very quick on the network

Care to share this update with us? Just do a rom dump and let the developers have at it!

[TC1]

Nelson sorry about the delay getting back to you, and sorry for the negative feedback and opinions you received from Foetus, nonegiven, dcd1182, just so you know the rev a upgrade works great and is very quick on the network

<yawn>.... we all know Sprint is working Rev A. And it's really doubtful they'll release another ROM within 30 days of just releasing one.

So what was the news here? :rolleyes:

[neilson]

Nelson sorry about the delay getting back to you, and sorry for the negative feedback and opinions you received from Foetus, nonegiven, dcd1182, just so you know the rev a upgrade works great and is very quick on the network
So where's the PM or posting with a link to this ROM you have, like you promised?

[nonegiven]

Rev.A has been active for a while now. halfdriven is clueless and trying to save face by not letting on that he's using the Rev.A laptop adapter card.

[Dishe]

Rev.A has been active for a while now. halfdriven is clueless and trying to save face by not letting on that he's using the Rev.A laptop adapter card.

Dude. Let him respond first, then u can say that if you still feel that way.

I'm not saying I'm expecting big news here, but people on this forum seem to love jumping at each others throats!

[Foetus]

So where's the PM or posting with a link to this ROM you have, like you promised?

It looks like he's stringing you along, man... I hate to think the worst of anyone, but think about it: You don't know this person personally, but he's suddenly giving you inside information and is going to give you (not DCD or anyone that could really do something spectacular with it) an unreleased ROM? It just sounds a bit shady at this point.

[TC1]

It looks like he's stringing you along, man... I hate to think the worst of anyone, but think about it: You don't know this person personally, but he's suddenly giving you inside information and is going to give you (not DCD or anyone that could really do something spectacular with it) an unreleased ROM? It just sounds a bit shady at this point.

And if it was me I'd think twice about leaking unreleased code... that would cost anyone their job if it was traced back to them.

[nonegiven]

Dude. Let him respond first, then u can say that if you still feel that way.

I'm not saying I'm expecting big news here, but people on this forum seem to love jumping at each others throats!
How about now? ROTFLMAO

[neilson]

How about now? ROTFLMAO
Ok so he pulled a barrel over us. At least this thread can stand as a testiment to his untrustworthiness and why we shouldn't put our stock in fellow members(even if they are employees with Sprint on the technical side).

[nonegiven]

Ok so he pulled a barrel over us. At least this thread can stand as a testiment to his untrustworthiness and why we shouldn't put our stock in fellow members(even if they are employees with Sprint on the technical side).
Us? We? You were the the one that he fooled and you were the one who defended your position. I trust that you won't be posting any more BS on this forum.

[neilson]

Us? We? You were the the one that he fooled and you were the one who defended your position. I trust that you won't be posting any more BS on this forum.
You're coming off way too brash on here. Can you ever dial down the attitude?

[steps]

You're coming off way too brash on here. Can you ever dial down the attitude?

I think his attitude is perfectly fine considering EVERYTHING you say is a lie. How would you react if someone kept posting BS "insider info".

[neilson]

I think his attitude is perfectly fine considering EVERYTHING you say is a lie. How would you react if someone kept posting BS "insider info".
I had a little faith in halfdriven. Check your PMs.

[steps]

I had a little faith in halfdriven. Check your PMs.

Well checked my PM...it all depends if it is true or not lol

[nonegiven]

I had a little faith in halfdriven. Check your PMs.
The PM said nothing at all. Everyone knows that Rev.A has been active for months in some cities and it going nationwide very soon, but that's with the laptop card. Sprint's been selling them for a long time now.

NOWHERE in the PM does it mention anything about a Mogul ROM update to enable Rev.A. That, like I said months ago, won't be until Q1 2008.

[wsparvis]

Us? We? You were the the one that he fooled and you were the one who defended your position. I trust that you won't be posting any more BS on this forum.


Well said!

[Chriskr22]

I'm glad I found this forum. Before I spend the rediculous amount of $$$ on this seemingly awesome phone, I thought I'd ask around. So let's just say (to make things easy) that the EVDO Rev-A is available to me in my area, where would I go to have the upgrade done? And how much would that cost? Also, would that be reliable enough for me to get rid of my Sprint Pantech wireless internet card? Could I actually just use my phone as a modem and get the same speed and reliablility I get with my internet card? Any thoughts on this matter? Thanks in advance.

[Dishe]

Upgrades are free and can be done from your home PC.

Yes, the mogul makes a great wireless modem- especailly when paired with the WMWiFiRouter app (makes your device broadcast as a wireless access point/router, and any WiFi enabled device can connect with it).

[tpbklake]

I'm glad I found this forum. Before I spend the rediculous amount of $$$ on this seemingly awesome phone, I thought I'd ask around. So let's just say (to make things easy) that the EVDO Rev-A is available to me in my area, where would I go to have the upgrade done? And how much would that cost? Also, would that be reliable enough for me to get rid of my Sprint Pantech wireless internet card? Could I actually just use my phone as a modem and get the same speed and reliablility I get with my internet card? Any thoughts on this matter? Thanks in advance.

1. The EVDO A update/upgrade for the Mogul is not even available yet, so you will have to wait just like the rest of us.

2. You could use your Mogul with phone as a modem, but there is a thread over on http://www.evdoforums.com that discusses teathering with phone as modem vs a EVDO card.

Personally, I use PAM with my Mogul not only for checking email, but also remote access and the speed really isn't that bad. I can't wait for EVDO A though with the increase upload rates.

Regards,

Tom

[Chriskr22]

Thanks for the info. Waiting shouldn't be too tough, seeing as how I don't even have the Mogul yet....I figured I'd wait to see what everyone's reaction to it is. But thanks again.

[courtlandre]

Any updates on this? I suppose it isnt out yet, but I want to keep this bumped so people keep calling sprint and pestering them. :o

[Haydad07]

I'm glad I found this forum. Before I spend the rediculous amount of $$$ on this seemingly awesome phone, I thought I'd ask around. So let's just say (to make things easy) that the EVDO Rev-A is available to me in my area, where would I go to have the upgrade done? And how much would that cost? Also, would that be reliable enough for me to get rid of my Sprint Pantech wireless internet card? Could I actually just use my phone as a modem and get the same speed and reliablility I get with my internet card? Any thoughts on this matter? Thanks in advance.

I am using my Mogul as a modem right now typing on my home PC. I JUST ran a few speed tests and got 1124 and 1414kbps down and 100+ up. If your card can beat that then stick with it, but if Rev A speeds up everything like they say it will then the phone is all you'll need.

[Sprinttechy]

I am using my Mogul as a modem right now typing on my home PC. I JUST ran a few speed tests and got 1124 and 1414kbps down and 100+ up. If your card can beat that then stick with it, but if Rev A speeds up everything like they say it will then the phone is all you'll need.All you are really going to notice is faster upload, the download will only increase about 100-200 kbps.

[dragon_76]

All you are really going to notice is faster upload, the download will only increase about 100-200 kbps.

Which makes the whole process of web browsing, emailing, etc much faster. There is a HUGE increase in upload speed, meaning the web server sending you data doesn't have to wait forever to receive requests from your phone.

[kmartburrito]

Hey there,

I just received word today that the ROM update is coming VERY SOON. Those on the inside have reported reading the PR releases for it, and that it will finally enable the navigation, TV, and EVDOa

Be excited, this is from a very reliable source.

[neilson]

Hey there,

I just received word today that the ROM update is coming VERY SOON. Those on the inside have reported reading the PR releases for it, and that it will finally enable the navigation, TV, and EVDOa

Be excited, this is from a very reliable source.
I'm excited. Should be fun.

[BlitzK]

Which makes the whole process of web browsing, emailing, etc much faster. There is a HUGE increase in upload speed, meaning the web server sending you data doesn't have to wait forever to receive requests from your phone.

Does RevA do anything to speed up connections when the signal is low?

My house seems to be on the fringe of EVDO... only works in some rooms/spots/times. Sometimes when its in Ev it's really slow.

[BlitzK]

Hey there,

I just received word today that the ROM update is coming VERY SOON. Those on the inside have reported reading the PR releases for it, and that it will finally enable the navigation, TV, and EVDOa

Be excited, this is from a very reliable source.

Man, if that's true that would be great!

Now if we could only get XM and SIRIUS merger to go through! :D

[dalvarez7]

Does RevA do anything to speed up connections when the signal is low?

My house seems to be on the fringe of EVDO... only works in some rooms/spots/times. Sometimes when its in Ev it's really slow.

I don't think so...REV A is just a revision of EVDO. So if you can't get a good EVDo signal, REV A won't matter. But if you do get a EVDO signal, the better the strength the better the connection will be and then you could benefit from REV A. The download speeds won't increase all that much, but the upload should be a big difference.

[ReD-DaWg-OnE]

I also heard it will be out very soon, the HTC people at CES told me the 28th of Jan.

[dalvarez7]

I thought Sprint was going to allow folks to test the ROM before it went production. Perhaps I heard wrong but it would be nice to play around with the beta ROM and give Sprint some feedback.

[nonegiven]

I thought Sprint was going to allow folks to test the ROM before it went production. Perhaps I heard wrong but it would be nice to play around with the beta ROM and give Sprint some feedback.
You heard wrong. Very wrong. The only way to ensure that there are bugs in the final release is to limit beta testing.

[defaultdotxbe]

Hey there,

I just received word today that the ROM update is coming VERY SOON. Those on the inside have reported reading the PR releases for it, and that it will finally enable the navigation, TV, and EVDOa

Be excited, this is from a very reliable source.
will the GPS be full standalone? or just the ability to pay extra for telenav?

[ScottC]

You heard wrong. Very wrong. The only way to ensure that there are bugs in the final release is to limit beta testing.

BS.

Sprint has proven in the past that their "beta testing" sucks.

Need I remind you about the last update they released for the Mogul?

Sprint does indeed need to find a better way of getting their updates tested. It wouldn't hurt them to hire people at a beta testing company and doing a public beta before they roll out another turd.

[nonegiven]

BS.

Sprint has proven in the past that their "beta testing" sucks.

Need I remind you about the last update they released for the Mogul?

Sprint does indeed need to find a better way of getting their updates tested. It wouldn't hurt them to hire people at a beta testing company and doing a public beta before they roll out another turd.
Um, try reading next time.

[ScottC]

Um, try reading next time.

Perhaps you need to do a better job of explaining. You said Sprint needs to "limit beta testing", and I say they should not limit it, and in fact open it up some more.

Which part of your post did I read incorrectly?

[wsparvis]

Hey there,

I just received word today that the ROM update is coming VERY SOON. Those on the inside have reported reading the PR releases for it, and that it will finally enable the navigation, TV, and EVDOa

Be excited, this is from a very reliable source.

I totally believe everything you say! Anonymous interweb posters and their unsubstantiated anonymous sources are renowned for reliability! ;=) "VERY SOON" also is so specific! Seems like a very reliable source could provide a date, huh?

In any event, as long as people keep saying 'very soon', as they have been for 2 or 3 months, someone's bound to be right someday! But by then, the Mogul will be a year-old phone, that's low on RAM, competing with phones that have WM 6.1...

To me, excitement would be a ROM that has decent quality BT audio.

[wsparvis]

I thought Sprint was going to allow folks to test the ROM before it went production. Perhaps I heard wrong but it would be nice to play around with the beta ROM and give Sprint some feedback.

They said a month ago at BAW they were considering a public beta program, but now appear to have just been teasing.

[wsparvis]

Perhaps you need to do a better job of explaining. You said Sprint needs to "limit beta testing", and I say they should not limit it, and in fact open it up some more.

Which part of your post did I read incorrectly?

The part where he firmly had tongue in cheek and was obviously joking in response to an earlier post.

[dalvarez7]

They said a month ago at BAW they were considering a public beta program, but now appear to have just been teasing.

That's where I read it also. I took it that Sprint wanted the feedback. I think it would be a good idea to get people out there testing the ROM's. Thats what we do here when someone creates a new ROM or Kitchen.

[nonegiven]

The part where he firmly had tongue in cheek and was obviously joking in response to an earlier post.
That is correct.

[itsall_cooool]

You heard wrong. Very wrong. The only way to ensure that there are bugs in the final release is to limit beta testing.

Funny Stuff man !!! (Note ScottC: ensure bugs is to limit beta testing)

[itsall_cooool]

Put your stock in the info, I was able to verify it and it is true. Hold me to my word, because that's all that I have to give you guys on here. Just be patient for 2-3 more weeks. You'll be getting EV-DO Rev. A with your Turkey.

yada yada yada

another insider ....whatever....

lets just wait and see

[neilson]

yada yada yada

another insider ....whatever....

lets just wait and see
Here's the 1st PM I got regarding all that:

01-11-2007, 05:07 PM
xxxxxx

xxxxxx


And again later:


xxxxxx

xxxxxx



note from mod:
1.)Original post saved.
2.)PM feature is for confidentiality, try to ask 1st permission from the sender if pm can be posted outside.

[wsparvis]

Here's the 1st PM I got regarding all that:



And again later:

Disclosing his name and contact info is pretty low class... Shame on you.

[neilson]

Don't even start. Look back a month or so on here and I was getting heckled on here by many that said I had someone on the inside that knew about this. Folks hung me out to dry so I made it very public that unless this poster came through, he would be outed so that everyone would know who passed along the info. I'll edit out the info if it makes you happy but I'll make no bones about what was said to me and by who.

[defaultdotxbe]

the irony is from what i can tell halfdriven was known to be a fraud and unreliable before neilson even joined

[nonegiven]

the irony is from what i can tell halfdriven was known to be a fraud and unreliable before neilson even joined
What's truly ironic is that the first fraud (halfdriven) never said anything about a Rev.A update to the Mogul. It was the second fraud (neilson) that made that entire story up.

[neilson]

What's truly ironic is that the first fraud (halfdriven) never said anything about a Rev.A update to the Mogul. It was the second fraud (neilson) that made that entire story up.

And ladies and gentleman, this guy is the one most guilty of heckling and insulting within this thread. I was passing the info along, halfdriven PM'd me, not the other way around.

[kmartburrito]

I totally believe everything you say! Anonymous interweb posters and their unsubstantiated anonymous sources are renowned for reliability! ;=) "VERY SOON" also is so specific! Seems like a very reliable source could provide a date, huh?

In any event, as long as people keep saying 'very soon', as they have been for 2 or 3 months, someone's bound to be right someday! But by then, the Mogul will be a year-old phone, that's low on RAM, competing with phones that have WM 6.1...

To me, excitement would be a ROM that has decent quality BT audio.

wouldn't you think it would be soon if someone said they read the pr release for it? People dont always talk about it in the context of "Hey, heres the exact date!" they just said they had read the release, and thats what I said in my post. I wish I knew a date, but either way it should be very soon. Bluetooth audio? Heck, I wish I could even use my bt headset with clear audio.

[nonegiven]

And ladies and gentleman, this guy is the one most guilty of heckling and insulting within this thread. I was passing the info along, halfdriven PM'd me, not the other way around.
No you didn't. You are a fool and made up your own story. You've never once posted any PM that described when a ROM update to the Mogul would be released enabling Rev.A powervision.

[halfdriven]

the irony is from what i can tell halfdriven was known to be a fraud and unreliable before neilson even joined

Good stuff, you kids crack me up

[neilson]

Good stuff, you kids crack me up
Well well well, look who it is.

I took your info for what it was worth halfdriven, and folks like nonegiven seize on these oppertunities to make anyone with info look bad when it doesn't pan out.

Do you have anything you'd like to say to nonegiven(either here in public and within the rules, or via PM and strictly between you guys)?

[neilson]

No you didn't. You are a fool and made up your own story. You've never once posted any PM that described when a ROM update to the Mogul would be released enabling Rev.A powervision.
Yeah, you're a real genius tossing around the smart*** attitude and all that. Frankly I have to wonder why you haven't gotten a warning on here yet.

[nonegiven]

Yeah, you're a real genius tossing around the smart*** attitude and all that. Frankly I have to wonder why you haven't gotten a warning on here yet.
It's because everyone knows that I'm right about you.

Either post the PM detailing exactly when the Rev.A ROM update for the Mogul would be released or get back in your box.

[shogunmark]

Children, can we please keep this thread civil?

If you have info you arent going to prove then please keep your fingers shut and quit teasing, either put up or shut up... its a simple concept..

everyone else, if someone isnt going to give up info they claim they have then just assume they dont and ignore them... its simple....

[neilson]

Children, can we please keep this thread civil?

If you have info you arent going to prove then please keep your fingers shut and quit teasing, either put up or shut up... its a simple concept..

everyone else, if someone isnt going to give up info they claim they have then just assume they dont and ignore them... its simple....
Agreed. Shogun, you saw what I reported and I'll leave it at that. I guess we'll know when Rev. A/GPS is available for our Moguls when we logon one day and see a thread with 100 pages of posts on it.

[kmartburrito]

will the GPS be full standalone? or just the ability to pay extra for telenav?

I'm not sure on this one, I've been told that it will be the full GPS, but again, not sure. There have been a bajillion arguments on this one.

[dalvarez7]

I'm not sure on this one, I've been told that it will be the full GPS, but again, not sure. There have been a bajillion arguments on this one.

You know that is a hard one...I've heard both. I work at Sprint and one of my friends there works with various vendors on applications for our phones. I don't want to make a claim that I have a "insider" at Sprint or anything like that. But when I asked him about the GPS on the mogul he was thinking it would be more like the Telenav on the blackberrys.

[PatMcCrevis]

I think dalvarez7 is right, I read it will be aGPS, like the Q9c is

[nonegiven]

I think dalvarez7 is right, I read it will be aGPS, like the Q9c is
Ugh. So much bad information. The Q9c is GPS, not aGPS. You can hack it and enable aGPS, but it's not like that from the factory.

[dalvarez7]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but can't Sprint still limit what applications can have access to the GPS device, regardless if it's aGPS or GPS? I hope they play it smart and go ahead and open it up. With Sprint getting on board with Google and being a carrier that will support the gPhone, perhaps they will start having a "Open Source" mentality.

[PatMcCrevis]

Ugh. So much bad information. The Q9c is GPS, not aGPS. You can hack it and enable aGPS, but it's not like that from the factory.


said "I think" not that "I know", a friend told me this was a cool forum, just had a few over opinionated people. He was right.

[defaultdotxbe]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but can't Sprint still limit what applications can have access to the GPS device, regardless if it's aGPS or GPS? I hope they play it smart and go ahead and open it up. With Sprint getting on board with Google and being a carrier that will support the gPhone, perhaps they will start having a "Open Source" mentality.
if its aGPS or full GPS i would think we'd be able to do some hack/reg edit to bypass the limitations

if its just tower triangulation for telenav or some such we probably wont be able to open it up

[shogunmark]

just wanted to give a quick thanks to you guys for being adults and getting back on track with the thread and none of the bickering :D

[dalvarez7]

I heard today that the new ROM should be ready the first week of Feb but to not hold by breath. I guess they are having issues with patent rights with RevA and Qualcomm. I debated about posting this or not but this is the information I got today, and wanted to share. Please take it for what it is and not set in stone.

[kmartburrito]

I also got a heads up from my friend on the inside that it will be here early February. effing finally. :D

[halfdriven]

Qualcomm did have some patent issues, first with Broadcom then Nokia

[PatMcCrevis]

anyone see this http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/3121/display1vi1.png was posted in another forum

[dalvarez7]

anyone see this http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/3121/display1vi1.png was posted in another forum

Do we know this is taken from a Titan (Mogul, PPC-6800)? If so, can you share which forum you found it on? Thanks!

[halfdriven]

pretty sure it did

[lafester]

looks like the image halfdriven posted @ pda phone home.

[dalvarez7]

pretty sure it did

Okay halfdriven...You seem to be a guy who can answer some questions for me...Do you think the Jan 28th date will stand?

[l33tlinuxh4x0r]

halfdriven can you please post your copy of the rom or pm a link to get it?

Thanks in advance
l33tlinuxh4x0r

[neilson]

Guys, keep an eye on this thread:

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=16778

Is it legit?

[halfdriven]

Okay halfdriven...You seem to be a guy who can answer some questions for me...Do you think the Jan 28th date will stand?

it should be close to that, early Feb at the latest

[mike3838]

it should be close to that, early Feb at the latest
Apperently early Feb is turning into 4Q of 08. has anyone else heard this also?

[cj10488]

Give it a few Days... I hear March 10th.. While I dont work for sprint thats what I heard from a very reliable source but things do change... I wouldnt Expect anything until MAr 10th 2008 though ;)...

[1999TL]

I dont think it's coming out.

[dalvarez7]

I'm pretty sure it will be out on the 10th unless some major unforeseen problem arises. Sprint Certified the ROM a couple of days ago.

[xdalaw]

I'm pretty sure it will be out on the 10th unless some major unforeseen problem arises. Sprint Certified the ROM a couple of days ago.
What does it mean to certify the ROM? And, where did you learn this? Thanks.

[Geckotek]

What does it mean to certify the ROM? And, where did you learn this? Thanks.

It means Sprint tested it and gave it their stamp of approval.

[ripshot_1]

I have a buddy who is running that Sprint test rom.

It says test use only on startup.

[scott500]

If you've see the "test" ROM on your friend's phone..can you tell us a little about what it's got in it (other than the gps etc..)?

[eXplicit815]

If you've see the "test" ROM on your friend's phone..can you tell us a little about what it's got in it (other than the gps etc..)?

It's the same one that is posted on this site and many. It's the one that was leaked in the middle of January. The only thing extra it has installed, from what I saw, was Sprint Navigation (TeleNav under a different name)

[prnorm]

i finally went with one of dcds roms, and i must say i'm happy, and don't care much about when the upgrade comes anymore.

however, i was told from a sprint employee that he hasn't heard any solid dates internally, but the latest rumor he heard was may. again, this is just another rumor so take it for what it's worth, but it was pretty discouraging to me.

[xdalaw]

It means Sprint tested it and gave it their stamp of approval.
Figured as much, but figured I'd ask. Thanks.

[x10dude]

I'm coming to the conclusion that the ROM upgrade is NOT coming...
I think Sprint most likely will probably just move to another PDA rather than try to get this one working correctly. The 6800 has already been out for a while, and there isn't really any financial incentive for them to release it. It probably will just cause more headaches for support than it's worth it. (yes, it's all about the finances!).

I think the leaked ROM is probably the best we are going to see.

[weav4444]

MARCH 10th!

[cj10488]

i finally went with one of dcds roms, and i must say i'm happy, and don't care much about when the upgrade comes anymore.

however, i was told from a sprint employee that he hasn't heard any solid dates internally, but the latest rumor he heard was may. again, this is just another rumor so take it for what it's worth, but it was pretty discouraging to me.

Ohh come on lets make a Bet now... Put your money where your mouth is.. Let me make a few Easy $$$ from ya... Do you trust your sprint employee more than I trust My Sprint Exec? LOL...

I got money says that mine is legit.. Come on.. Put the $$$ where your mouth is.

James

[cj10488]

I'm coming to the conclusion that the ROM upgrade is NOT coming...
I think Sprint most likely will probably just move to another PDA rather than try to get this one working correctly. The 6800 has already been out for a while, and there isn't really any financial incentive for them to release it. It probably will just cause more headaches for support than it's worth it. (yes, it's all about the finances!).

I think the leaked ROM is probably the best we are going to see.

Same Offer as above to you... Let me get rich off ya Nay sayers LOL


James

[cj10488]

If you've see the "test" ROM on your friend's phone..can you tell us a little about what it's got in it (other than the gps etc..)?


Well I can tell ya what it will and wont have...

Will Have

Gps & Rev A, HTC Task Mgr and Sprint Navigation.
Only bluetooth enhancement was for True Stereo Bluetooth for headsets.

It will not have

WM 6.1 Later release
Sprint TV possible later Release
Picturemail Who knows If they are smart sooner than later but NOT in this release.

Anything else you think they might want to throw in there is not..


James

[Geckotek]

:D...................

[cj10488]

Sorry I edited it.. Thats what I get for now proof reading LOL

James

[prnorm]

Ohh come on lets make a Bet now... Put your money where your mouth is.. Let me make a few Easy $$$ from ya... Do you trust your sprint employee more than I trust My Sprint Exec? LOL...

I got money says that mine is legit.. Come on.. Put the $$$ where your mouth is.

James

well, i think you're just giving me a hard time, but if you read my post, i said "rumor," "unsubstantiated," and "take it for what it's worth" and "no solid dates."

so...no, i don't want to place a bet. does that sound like I was confident that may was for sure the date?

just repeating what i was told, and only reporting it as a rumor and nothing more, and i'll be more than happy for you to be right and me to be wrong.

[stupedity98]

Never ever and then a day. Look at when this thread was started, and now look at today's date, the short answer is never. lol

[Geckotek]

Never ever and then a day. Look at when this thread was started, and now look at today's date, the short answer is never. lol

The same was said about the i760.

[ScottC]

Never releasing it = class action suit.

It was promosed for fall on the sales page of the phone. Then promised again after they f'd up the previous upgrade.

If anyone working for Sprint that is in a management position is reading this, and thinks they can get away with not releasing this, then they'd better be prepared for a nasty and costly battle.

[x10dude]

MARCH 10th!

If it doesn't come March 10, then it ain't coming...

[Geckotek]

If it doesn't come March 10, then it ain't coming...

You work for Sprint or something?

[x10dude]

You work for Sprint or something?


Nope but look at the history of all these so-called rumors...

So many dates have come and gone from these people who claimed to heard it directly from someone in Sprint.

I'd like to be wrong but my guess if March 10th comes and goes without the update, I'd say that it is not coming...

[nonegiven]

Just ask this guy. He's got all the answers.

Jeff Ware
RF Automation Strategy Team
Sprint Nextel
913-794-2531 office
913-221-7211 pcs
jeffrey.x.ware@sprint.com

[Geckotek]

Nope but look at the history of all these so-called rumors...

So many dates have come and gone from these people who claimed to heard it directly from someone in Sprint.

I'd like to be wrong but my guess if March 10th comes and goes without the update, I'd say that it is not coming...

Seriously, enough of the BS. Sure, it sucks that it hasn't been released. True, on occasions things like this turn into vaporware.

But unless you have some solid proof that Sprint is not releasing it, then stop saying it's not coming. Say you'll believe it when you see it, say you bet it will be next quarter, whatever. Complain all you want, but stop speaking in absolute terms about something you have no real knowledge of. Most people on here are presenting their rumors.....and they present them as just that...rumors or at least hearsay.

But historically, these things do get delayed, but they also eventually get released. It may be the 10th, it may not, but it will most likely be released eventually. Sprint realizes they are in for a storm if they don't. So they will not just drop it unless they have a very good reason, like it's not feasibly possible.

[x10dude]

Man, are you emotionally attached to this ROM thing..

All I said that is I don't think it's coming if March 10 comes and goes. What is BS about that. It's an opinion.

Take a chill pill and relax. I actually think it's far Worse for people to start rumors on when it's being released... Just look at ALL the previous posts and threads that turned out NOT to be true. That just builds up skepticism. That's the bigger BS.

Again, I hope I'm wrong but if March 10th comes and goes, I really don't think it's coming.

[cj10488]

Well I just got Complete word about the 10th as well as what time on that day..

I will keep the time to myself so I can make sure the server doesnt get too slammed LOL

James

[Scrufdog]

most of the nay-sayers are also the people who said that GPS would never come to this phone, or the people who said that internel GPS was impossible for this phone. I'll just sit tight and check patiently.

[ilogik]

Just ask this guy. He's got all the answers.

Jeff Ware
RF Automation Strategy Team
Sprint Nextel
913-794-2531 office
913-221-7211 pcs
jeffrey.x.ware@sprint.com

I got his voicemail but I left a message with my name and call back number and stated I wanted to know the release date of the rom, lets see if I receive a response :)

[x10dude]

most of the nay-sayers are also the people who said that GPS would never come to this phone, or the people who said that internel GPS was impossible for this phone. I'll just sit tight and check patiently.

Maybe "naysayers" isn't the correct term..
I don' think there is ANYONE on this forum that doesn't want the official upgrade. So I don't think there isn't anyone who wouldn't love to see it come on the day people say it is coming. I think it's just that people are a bit wary after the countless postings that say it's coming on a specific date... and so on.

I would say that everyone is agreement that March 10 release date would be awesome... I just think there is large group of people who "will believe it when they actually see it."

[cj10488]

I got his voicemail but I left a message with my name and call back number and stated I wanted to know the release date of the rom, lets see if I receive a response :)


Seriously man.. I am telling you it will be out on the 10th of March... There is no doubt and I am will to take whatever $$$ anyone wants to bet otherwise... I have confirmed this Multiple times with the Exact department that releases updates for the phones...

I have an Exact time but I want to get it before the server goes down so I wont post that LOL...

James

[x10dude]

Seriously man.. I am telling you it will be out on the 10th of March... There is no doubt and I am will to take whatever $$$ anyone wants to bet otherwise... I have confirmed this Multiple times with the Exact department that releases updates for the phones...

I have an Exact time but I want to get it before the server goes down so I wont post that LOL...

James

On March 10th, you are either going to be the most popular guy on the board (countless PMs asking for it) or you are going to be the exact opposite... (scary thought) lol.

[cj10488]

On March 10th, you are either going to be the most popular guy on the board (countless PMs asking for it) or you are going to be the exact opposite... (scary thought) lol.


Others have been saying the 10th as well... It hasnt just been me.. But I know who told me the information so I trust it with everything... But again its all still a rumor.. But to be honest It is now the 6th and there has been no changes to the release date of the 10th. If I am the most hated or popular person on the baord come the 10th I could care less either way...

James

[dalvarez7]

Just a couple of days left to go! I was wondering...with the 3.16 leaked ROM I'm not so certain it had Rev A. Obviously it had GPS, but I didn't get any Rev A speeds and I'm sure I'm in a EVDO, Rev A coverage area working at Sprint. I'm hoping we will see a difference in the uploads speeds with this new ROM monday.

Others have been saying the 10th as well... It hasnt just been me.. But I know who told me the information so I trust it with everything... But again its all still a rumor.. But to be honest It is now the 6th and there has been no changes to the release date of the 10th. If I am the most hated or popular person on the baord come the 10th I could care less either way...

James

[pflatlyne]

Just a couple of days left to go! I was wondering...with the 3.16 leaked ROM I'm not so certain it had Rev A. Obviously it had GPS, but I didn't get any Rev A speeds and I'm sure I'm in a EVDO, Rev A coverage area working at Sprint. I'm hoping we will see a difference in the uploads speeds with this new ROM monday.

I can assure you that it does in fact have rev A. I get about 1200 download and 400 upload speeds. There is no way that Rev 0 can get that kind of upload speed.

[nonegiven]

I can assure you that it does in fact have rev A. I get about 1200 download and 400 upload speeds. There is no way that Rev 0 can get that kind of upload speed.
What site are you using and what browser are you using?

[hyjkim]

Seriously man.. I am telling you it will be out on the 10th of March... There is no doubt and I am will to take whatever $$$ anyone wants to bet otherwise... I have confirmed this Multiple times with the Exact department that releases updates for the phones...

I have an Exact time but I want to get it before the server goes down so I wont post that LOL...

James

Would you bet your mogul on it? ;)

[Geckotek]

Man, are you emotionally attached to this ROM thing..

All I said that is I don't think it's coming if March 10 comes and goes. What is BS about that. It's an opinion.

Take a chill pill and relax. I actually think it's far Worse for people to start rumors on when it's being released... Just look at ALL the previous posts and threads that turned out NOT to be true. That just builds up skepticism. That's the bigger BS.

Again, I hope I'm wrong but if March 10th comes and goes, I really don't think it's coming.

Honestly, I'm not emotionally attached in any way. I'm a VZW customer so won't even benefit unless/until someone breaks it down and allows us to customize it into a VZW ROM.

What annoys me is the banter and the people who have taken past delays personally then make statements like:
If it doesn't come March 10, then it ain't coming...

"It ain't coming"? That's just a stupid statement. Like I said, just say "I'll believe it when I see it."

I guess I've just been through this kind of crap on forums so many times and certain kinds of stances and statements annoy the crap out of me. I tend to be the middle of the road kinda guy that hopes for the best but isn't surprised when the worst happens.

Now I agree, if it doesn't come out we should all lynch James. Until then, let's continue to be positively pessimistic.

[nadegda]

What site are you using and what browser are you using?

I can confirm this. Prior to upgrade teethering by wifirouter my laptop would get something like 800 down, 100 up, after up went to something like 400.

[aledc78]

Will there be a ROM upgrade for the HTC Touch? or is this upgrade coming only to the Mogul?

Thanks

[cj10488]

Would you bet your mogul on it? ;)



Sure Would... But I wouldnt want to take yours from ya...


But yes this will be coming for the touch just not for a little while... No exact date has been set... For now only for the Mogul.. But yes eventually it will happen for the touch

James

[x10dude]

Honestly, I'm not emotionally attached in any way. I'm a VZW customer so won't even benefit unless/until someone breaks it down and allows us to customize it into a VZW ROM.

I guess I've just been through this kind of crap on forums so many times and certain kinds of stances and statements annoy the crap out of me. I tend to be the middle of the road kinda guy that hopes for the best but isn't surprised when the worst happens.

Now I agree, if it doesn't come out we should all lynch James. Until then, let's continue to be positively pessimistic.

Just go back and read your last couple posts. You SEEM really emotional about it...
"BS, it sucks, crap, Stupid, crap, it annoys the crap out of me, etc." (you seem a bit fixated on crap... lol - I'm kidding OK???)

All I said is that if "March 10 comes and goes, I have serious doubts it will ever come.. " (OK, I used an incorrect English term "ain't"... maybe my English isn't that great... but don't get emotional about it)

I don't know why you got all bent out of shape with that statement. IT's called an opinion. Just relax...

I think the ROM thing is really getting people up in arms. My attitude is, if it comes Terrific. If not, I still like my Mogul.

[x10dude]

I'm a VZW customer so won't even benefit unless/until someone breaks it down and allows us to customize it into a VZW ROM.

If we dare to hope that it is coming out on the 10th... I wouldn't worry too much. Give the ROM gurus a few days with it and they'll have it all broken down for VZW.

[Geckotek]

Just go back and read your last couple posts. You SEEM really emotional about it...
"BS, it sucks, crap, Stupid, crap, it annoys the crap out of me, etc." (you seem a bit fixated on crap... lol - I'm kidding OK???)


Yes, emotional response, but not for the ROM...for the bickering. Sorry, just hit a sore spot. :rolleyes:

If we dare to hope that it is coming out on the 10th... I wouldn't worry too much. Give the ROM gurus a few days with it and they'll have it all broken down for VZW.

That'll be nice.

[nonegiven]

I can confirm this. Prior to upgrade teethering by wifirouter my laptop would get something like 800 down, 100 up, after up went to something like 400.
Again, I want to know what site and what browser is being used so that I can post my own results. Results from different sites, carriers and browsers cannot be compared.

[Geckotek]

Again, I want to know what site and what browser is being used so that I can post my own results. Results from different sites, carriers and browsers cannot be compared.

I'd like to know as well. The only tests I've seen seem to be via tethering. I want to see direct from the phone.

[dalvarez7]

Good news folks...I've been getting confirmations from all the people I've been bugging the last couple of months about when the new ROM is going to be released. All of them are saying Monday. Things are looking very good. Also, I stand corrected about the Rev A. I did a test on speakeasy.net while using WMWifiRouter to connect to my laptop wifi card and was able to get 2358kbps down and 387kbps. Now on my phone at www.dslreports.com/mspeed I can only get 1100kbps down.

[sanjsrik]

i'm just waiting for this rom to break so many phones and they'll have to put out another one to fix what broke all the phones, I think I'll wait a week or two before upgrading.

[prnorm]

As it seems like most people are saying now, it's Monday for sure.

...just received a forwarded email that originated with Sprint engineering stating it will be released Monday.

james was right :)

[dcd1182]

lets hope it works with 1.20-olipro

[Geckotek]

lets hope it works with 1.20-olipro

Curious, any particular reason why?

[dcd1182]

Curious, any particular reason why?

i wont go off topic here anymore after this post :) but yeah a few reasons:
1. the MFG bootloader that 2.40 olipro is built upon causes lockups on the non-test rom/radios.
2. rom/radios we know and use on 1.20-olipro seem to be portable to vogue
3. theres always a possibility the new ROM will come with and require a new SPL that we will have to nicely ask olipro to patch once again before we can modify the ROM.

[l33tlinuxh4x0r]

well It will require 2.40 or higher. We will probably have to wait for olipro to patch it.

[danibbs]

I just wanted everyone to know the update is here. It is not posted on HTC's website but it is posted on sprint downloads. It works great. Rom version 3.35651.2

Here is the website

http://www4.sprint.com/pcsbusiness/support/downloads/index.jsp?internalId=downloads

[nonegiven]

I just wanted everyone to know the update is here. It is not posted on HTC's website but it is posted on sprint downloads. It works great. Rom version 3.35651.2

Here is the website

http://www4.sprint.com/pcsbusiness/support/downloads/index.jsp?internalId=downloads
ROTFLMAO

You're a little late.

[danibbs]

ROTFLMAO

You're a little late.



i didn't see anyone post anything so I did SORRY I wish someone pasted on the update to me

[blkout]

ok so I updated to the new rom...but when i go to see if the rev a is enabled and working in EPST and view the data parameters it gives the rev a under item but says the setting is disabled?? why is this?

[nonegiven]

ok so I updated to the new rom...but when i go to see if the rev a is enabled and working in EPST and view the data parameters it gives the rev a under item but says the setting is disabled?? why is this?
No, it doesn't. It's asking if you want to disable it.

[blkout]

ok cool just wasn't sure if it was supposed to say disable or not, cuz since doing the updated rom if anything ive slowed down some..definately havent gained any speed or anything...also using prl 60610 should i update that or would it even make a difference? and thank you for the help and knowledge