Athena Project Black Touch Edition by PK 2.0

[Darkguy]

Hey!

I love the device and the ROM, but I cannot currently really enjoy either one - something seems to be terribly wrong either with the integration of RealVGA into the ROM or TrueVGA itself. Since I read nothing similiar like my expirience on the RealVGA-thread I would guess it is a problem of RealVGA ROM integration. I cannot, for the life of me, figure out what causes the problems I experience. This description is rather extensive, detailled and hopefully not too much of gibberish, but I wanted to be as clear as possible on what I did, and to find out what may cause this behaviour I am getting.

It's pretty much a few issues:

Translation of items only works once (English -> German), but things go awry when switching back or around again.

On my 2nd install, some items don't work anymore when I am in German localization.

Detailed descriptions:

My problem is with the integration of the language packs, not the resolution. I use TrueVGA not only to run in 96dpi, but also to localize the OS into German. There are a number of issues here, that mgiht be related.

First, I can only do the switch once. If I switch from English to German, everything is translated as it should be (names of folders and applications). I used to do this when I first installed the ROM, then subsequently installed all the additional applications over the course of a few days and generally enjoyed life and the device. Everything worked fine, with the exception of Excel (a problem that has been reported on the TrueVGA thread, but has, to the best of my knowledge, not been resolved yet).

I tried switching into English, to see if it work there. It did, but the programs folder was empty, and there was no settings folder. When I checked out, I saw that something strange happened - there was a mix-up in translations:

in English the folder-structure should be \Windows\Start Menu\Programs
in German it should be \Windows\Startmenü\Programme

now it was: \Windows\Start Menu\Programme
and: \Windows\Startmenü\Programs

I shrugged this off and switched back to German, where things pretty much stayed as they had been, including all the application-names being in English now, but with those interfaces that were translated in German (by the German ROM, like Calendar, Contacts, Tasks, Notes, Mail, Windows Live, Word, PowerPoint and so on...). Also, my previously set-up mail-account was gone, with the unread messages still being displayed.

After some more switching back and forth to see if I could recover and delete the mail account, I removed the German language support (to see if that was causing any of the mail-realted problems) and to later reinstall it, but forgot to switch back to English before, resulting in a device that was so bricked that it required a hard-reset.

So far, so good. I wanted to solve this, so I did pretty much what I had done before, installed the German language pack and installed those apps I had with me at the time (on the micro drive). When I went into QuickGPS I got a prompt telling me: "Failed to create empty document", additionally some of the apps which used to run with an English interface in my previous German-localized ROM suddenly showed no text-interface (menus and such) at all, but still worked. When switching to English, things worked again (including QuickGPS), but on switching back to German, things were back to what I described above (which would be fine, with just the names of the apps being in English, but it generally just bothers me a lot).

I then did another hard-reset today and thought maybe I should install and do all of my settings in English, and switch to German as the finaly step. So I sepnt most of my afternoon installing and configuring everything to my liking and just installing the German localization as the final step and then switching. This resulted in my device not starting once again, rendering all of my efforts worthless (I should have backed up at this stage, I know that now and learned the heard way). The device now sits before me pretty much "naked" after the hard-reset (with the exception of being localized again), QuickGPS still doesn't work. I cannot, for the life of me, understand what I did differently from when I first installed a few days ago, where everything worked as expected in German (with the exception of Excel) with those apps without a translation simply running in English.

Is RealVGA included with the very lastest files posted by Tobias on the RealVGA thread on 09/14, or have the devlopers used a previous version, which might explain this behaviour? Is there a way to fully remove TrueVGA from the ROM and trying to install manually, maybe as a way so I could test if this behaviour persists when RealVGA is not part of the intial setup?

What I find strange is that RealVGA shows me a list of missing 0407.mui-Files at some times when switching, and not at all at other times. Can any of the developers just test this on a device and see if the same thing happens for you? Is anybody else with German language localization experiencing similiar problems? Does this happen to people who manually installed RealVGA in other ROMs than PK Black Touch v2.0? Can anybody help me, before I start going crazy? :(

I do not mind experiencing the ocassional bug, that's the price tag that that comes attached to testing and running bleeding edge technology, I learned to accept that a long tme ago. But this really gets frustrating, especially since I can really set this device up to virtually fulfill ALL my needs, and the only thaing that keeps getting in my way is that stupid localization issue.

Thanks, I hope anybody can point to why and where things go wrong.

Regards,
Darkguy

[LTxda]

Hey!

I love the device and the ROM, but I cannot currently really enjoy either one - something seems to be terribly wrong either with the integration of RealVGA into the ROM or TrueVGA itself. Since I read nothing similiar like my expirience on the RealVGA-thread I would guess it is a problem of RealVGA ROM integration. I cannot, for the life of me, figure out what causes the problems I experience. This description is rather extensive, detailled and hopefully not too much of gibberish, but I wanted to be as clear as possible on what I did, and to find out what may cause this behaviour I am getting.

It's pretty much a few issues:

Translation of items only works once (English -> German), but things go awry when switching back or around again.

On my 2nd install, some items don't work anymore when I am in German localization.

Detailed descriptions:

My problem is with the integration of the language packs, not the resolution. I use TrueVGA not only to run in 96dpi, but also to localize the OS into German. There are a number of issues here, that mgiht be related.

First, I can only do the switch once. If I switch from English to German, everything is translated as it should be (names of folders and applications). I used to do this when I first installed the ROM, then subsequently installed all the additional applications over the course of a few days and generally enjoyed life and the device. Everything worked fine, with the exception of Excel (a problem that has been reported on the TrueVGA thread, but has, to the best of my knowledge, not been resolved yet).

I tried switching into English, to see if it work there. It did, but the programs folder was empty, and there was no settings folder. When I checked out, I saw that something strange happened - there was a mix-up in translations:

in English the folder-structure should be \Windows\Start Menu\Programs
in German it should be \Windows\Startmenü\Programme

now it was: \Windows\Start Menu\Programme
and: \Windows\Startmenü\Programs

I shrugged this off and switched back to German, where things pretty much stayed as they had been, including all the application-names being in English now, but with those interfaces that were translated in German (by the German ROM, like Calendar, Contacts, Tasks, Notes, Mail, Windows Live, Word, PowerPoint and so on...). Also, my previously set-up mail-account was gone, with the unread messages still being displayed.

After some more switching back and forth to see if I could recover and delete the mail account, I removed the German language support (to see if that was causing any of the mail-realted problems) and to later reinstall it, but forgot to switch back to English before, resulting in a device that was so bricked that it required a hard-reset.

So far, so good. I wanted to solve this, so I did pretty much what I had done before, installed the German language pack and installed those apps I had with me at the time (on the micro drive). When I went into QuickGPS I got a prompt telling me: "Failed to create empty document", additionally some of the apps which used to run with an English interface in my previous German-localized ROM suddenly showed no text-interface (menus and such) at all, but still worked. When switching to English, things worked again (including QuickGPS), but on switching back to German, things were back to what I described above (which would be fine, with just the names of the apps being in English, but it generally just bothers me a lot).

I then did another hard-reset today and thought maybe I should install and do all of my settings in English, and switch to German as the finaly step. So I sepnt most of my afternoon installing and configuring everything to my liking and just installing the German localization as the final step and then switching. This resulted in my device not starting once again, rendering all of my efforts worthless (I should have backed up at this stage, I know that now and learned the heard way). The device now sits before me pretty much "naked" after the hard-reset (with the exception of being localized again), QuickGPS still doesn't work. I cannot, for the life of me, understand what I did differently from when I first installed a few days ago, where everything worked as expected in German (with the exception of Excel) with those apps without a translation simply running in English.

Is RealVGA included with the very lastest files posted by Tobias on the RealVGA thread on 09/14, or have the devlopers used a previous version, which might explain this behaviour? Is there a way to fully remove TrueVGA from the ROM and trying to install manually, maybe as a way so I could test if this behaviour persists when RealVGA is not part of the intial setup?

What I find strange is that RealVGA shows me a list of missing 0407.mui-Files at some times when switching, and not at all at other times. Can any of the developers just test this on a device and see if the same thing happens for you? Is anybody else with German language localization experiencing similiar problems? Does this happen to people who manually installed RealVGA in other ROMs than PK Black Touch v2.0? Can anybody help me, before I start going crazy? :(

I do not mind experiencing the ocassional bug, that's the price tag that that comes attached to testing and running bleeding edge technology, I learned to accept that a long tme ago. But this really gets frustrating, especially since I can really set this device up to virtually fulfill ALL my needs, and the only thaing that keeps getting in my way is that stupid localization issue.

Thanks, I hope anybody can point to why and where things go wrong.

Regards,
Darkguy

Not to discourage you but the only type of integration we've done in this ROM is installing Tobias' VGA program as anyone else would. We didn't include language packs as the user can download those as needed. The best advise I can give you is post this exact same thing to the Tobias forum and see if anyone else had the problem and may have resolved it. I'm sure if anyone else here has this problem they will respond. I don't have enough information to help atm.

Also, since no one on the team wrote the VGA program it would be advisable to refer to Tobias. See what he says and go from there. If you can get Tobias into meet up with us on IRC we would be more than happy to discuss the issue if he feels it's a ROM related problem. Not trying to pass the buck but we only "installed" the package as anyone else would have with the exception of it being "automated" through the ROM flash process.

Another thing, we used 1.1 which is the latest confirmed version in 2.0. The previous version had too many issues. Also, after reviewing your post again, and this is just speculation, it sounds like the language pack is the root.

Let's see what other people on this thread and also Tobias' thread have to say and go from there.

[wgary]

Yes, take it if that is the issue. I did find it useful for managing bt connections. Is there an easy alternative for opening the audio gateway? Note this is without using the A2DP profile, just to route streaming talk radio to my ear. Found BlueTooth Audio v1.0 and will try that...
Found BlueTooth Audio v1.0 seems to provide the same functionality but doesn't run all the time. It does put an icon in the tray when you run it.
See http://www.trianglepowers.com/PPC/Apps.aspx?app=PPC
There are a few other interesting apps there as well.

[Pawel062]

I am trying since a copule of weeks CallCalendar http://www.kingfetty.com/Downloads.html .
It simply (17 Kb) add a calendar entry for calls, being sincronized with outlook. Freeware

Good in a .biz environment also to have all calls recorded into outlook, even if you use 2 phones, easy to edit to add to the call some elements, reminders ecc

nice app we'll have to try it and discuss if it should be in 3.0

[Pawel062]

My request is for a vanilla version as I have plenty of 3rd party apps.

i can make a vanilla rom and originally did BUT the storage space does not change on the device as this is a DOC(disc on chip) device and the rom partition is partioned so it is a certain size. this means making a vanilla will not give u more storage space to install applications. the space will not be used up therfore wasted so we got together and decided on what to put in the rom. if u have suggestions for apps to cook in then please feel free to post them here.

[Darkguy]

Not to discourage you but the only type of integration we've done in this ROM is installing Tobias' VGA program as anyone else would. We didn't include language packs as the user can download those as needed. The best advise I can give you is post this exact same thing to the Tobias forum and see if anyone else had the problem and may have resolved it. I'm sure if anyone else here has this problem they will respond. I don't have enough information to help atm.

Also, since no one on the team wrote the VGA program it would be advisable to refer to Tobias. See what he says and go from there. If you can get Tobias into meet up with us on IRC we would be more than happy to discuss the issue if he feels it's a ROM related problem. Not trying to pass the buck but we only "installed" the package as anyone else would have with the exception of it being "automated" through the ROM flash process.

Another thing, we used 1.1 which is the latest confirmed version in 2.0. The previous version had too many issues. Also, after reviewing your post again, and this is just speculation, it sounds like the language pack is the root.

Let's see what other people on this thread and also Tobias' thread have to say and go from there.

Thanks for the fast reply, you also answered my most basic question, which was if the latest version available was used, and if there was any special way of integrating the app into the ROM. I already posted a slightly-modified post into Tobias' thread and hope to get ananswer there.

To me, this also seems to be a langauge-pack issue, which hopefully can and wil be resolved. The problem seems to be that Tobias' is a very competent experinced and helpful, but at the moment, also very busy guy, who seemingly has a demanding day-job and only very little time on his hands for supporting the app. At least that's my guess, since he has not posted here in a while.

Hopefully he will soon pop back up and help out with the few remaining isues that still persist with TrueVGA, since this is one application I cannot imagine using my Athena without.

Again, thanks for your quick reply and the heads-up on how you intgrated RealVGA - maybe anybody with similiar issues can still speak out, just to reassure me I am not alone with this.

Regards,
Darkguy

[Darkguy]

I somehow got it sorted out now, maybe this is helpful to anybody having this issues or anybody on the Athena Project Team or Tobias (who might be able to fix things up). At least the stuff about some applications not working when in German localization (Excel still isn't working, but I'l live with that for the time being) is fixed, items are mostl translated into German, the rest works fine in Englsh.

Here is what I did, it seems to be basically how you go through the DPI and langauge changes (I remebered that I had tried 128 right at the start, out of curiosity):

English/192 dpi --> English/128 dpi --> (during this change you get the prompt that someo the 407.ui files are missing, which must be acknowledged) German/128 dpi --> German/96 dpi.

For now, things sem to work fine.

One more question: Which version of Office 2007 did the developers use? In this post (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1497535&highlight=excel#post1497535) Tobias stated that there is a problem with his localizations, if a different version of Office 2007 is being used than the one that comes with a stock Windows Mobile 6 (and there's a simple workaround for that case).

Regards,
Darkguy

[spacecat]

I have been noticing a lot of problems with internet explorer stopping working , i thought ti was my connection but now i realise others have this same problem.

does anyone know about this and is there a way to fix it?

[Darkguy]

Excel Mobile issue resolved as well - it seems there is a newer Office 2007 Mobile version in this ROM, which causes problems with the current German localization provided by Tobias. Just deleted the officres.dll.0407.mui after installing the German langauge pack (before switching). Office is in English now, but working well.

Seems things are looking up for me now, just have to get everything back on the device that should be ther. And then I'll back up! ;)

Regards,
Darkguy

[jmdrizen]

Apologies... post not relevent as incorrect...

[jmdrizen]

hehe its already in the rom ;) was there from beginning. please no more questions about this comment

oops sorry!!!

[skoop99]

Attached is the 10 button kaiser comm mananger for use for people who are running 96 or 128 dpi. looks much better than stock.

Full list of everything in rom and download links in post 2.

Hey, it won't let me install the Comm Manager? Insufficient rights or summat?

Beautiful ROM, btw. Cheers, you very clever man, you...

[LTxda]

Hey, it won't let me install the Comm Manager? Insufficient rights or summat?

Beautiful ROM, btw. Cheers, you very clever man, you...

I had this problem once. Not sure what caused it. If the CAB is on the SD card try moving it to the MD and installing from there, see if this helps any. Another reason this comes up is due to .net framework issues. If your other .net applications are working then .net is probably ok. See if moving the CAB to another physical location works for you and please report back. I've seen this issue in stock WM6 so it's not specific to the ROM.

[LTxda]

Excel Mobile issue resolved as well - it seems there is a newer Office 2007 Mobile version in this ROM, which causes problems with the current German localization provided by Tobias. Just deleted the officres.dll.0407.mui after installing the German langauge pack (before switching). Office is in English now, but working well.

Seems things are looking up for me now, just have to get everything back on the device that should be ther. And then I'll back up! ;)

Regards,
Darkguy

Thanks for reporting back! Yes, we do strive to put in the latest and greatest into the ROM which in turn sometimes causes these little issues. :-)

[marka2k]

Hey, it won't let me install the Comm Manager? Insufficient rights or summat?

Beautiful ROM, btw. Cheers, you very clever man, you...

Had the same issue, make sure nothing is accessing the comm manager(Phone Alarm etc) soft reset and try to re-install.

[Darkguy]

It seems my trouble have no ends these days. ;)

Just got finished re-installing everythign and getting set up. the (very!!!) last thing I wanted to install was JGUI My|Phone SE 1.0, which is a signal-strength indicator on the today screen.

Did it as always (through ActiveSync), this time it said the cellular network was down (it wasn't, and the app had worked without any problems before on the Athena).

I grabbed the CAB out of the install folder on my PC, ran it on the Athena... and now the Athena gets stuck after a soft-reset after a few seconds. Of course I have no safe-mode-tool installed and of course I wanted to make a back up just after getting My|Phone set up, so I could easily go back to a perfectly working device if something ever got wrong.

Argh... seems like re-installing my complete Athena will become part of my daily ritual. :confused:

Regards,
Darkguy

[famsanr]

Go File Explorer, windows/startup and remove BTIO. Restart the phone.




This is what is working for me also. If you just leave the bluetooth on it works just fine. Battery is back to being similar to the official HTC Release. Use with stereo headset all day as phone and music headphones

Thanks for helping me. I just deleted BTIO and will be testing the battery status. I hope this works. Thanks again.

[jsosow]

I can confirm that the removal of BTIO has fixed my battery. It has been 3 days now and I am on vacation today. While working outside I listened to music using Windows Media Player for 5 hours non stop through a bluetooth stereo headset. Also the MP3 are on the Microdrive. I had the GPRS on with Push email running on a work day (50 or so emails). I also had about 20 min of phone usage. This is better than some mp3 players and most other phones that I have had. Also the MP3 are on the Microdrive.

[saa044]

Ok any chance of getting that nice htc home plugin ported to jasjar? :D

[Pantaloonie]

Yup, removing BTIO has also sorted my battery problems, standby time is now several days, instead of 6 hours.

[afico]

hi guys i cannot install the PK COMMman VGA i have error "Not enough system autorizations" what i have to do??

[Confucious]

You mean you can't even be bothered to read the reply to the same question on the previous page of this thread?

[afico]

oops sorry mate i didn't see it...
anyway i fixed this but remains the problem when opening the quick gps screen..all the text confused..

[orinoco]

Hello: I am trying to get the PK 2.0 ROM loaded up to my HTC 7501. The ROMUpdateUtility starts the process OK, but then hangs after 1% saying "Error 270: Update Error. The image file is corrupted. Please check your update utility".

I have downloaded the versions in rapidshare and in megaupload, but I get the same error in both cases.

Is there a non-corrupt PK 2.0 version out there that I can download? Is there anything I may be doing wrong?

Please help.

Thanks !

Fernando

[sabes143]

Hello: I am trying to get the PK 2.0 ROM loaded up to my HTC 7501. The ROMUpdateUtility starts the process OK, but then hangs after 1% saying "Error 270: Update Error. The image file is corrupted. Please check your update utility".

I have downloaded the versions in rapidshare and in megaupload, but I get the same error in both cases.

Is there a non-corrupt PK 2.0 version out there that I can download? Is there anything I may be doing wrong?

Please help.

Thanks !

Fernando

Hi
First of all hard reset the Aheena, then connect and establish the connection then try update. This error was happen several time then after the hard reset it worked.
Good luck
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Device: X7500 with PK2.0 + Addons, Radio 1.50,
CE OS 5.2.1437 (Build 17944.0.3.1)-PK
RealVGA @128 DPI
SDHC 4 GB Micro SD with Mini adapter
Network : Virgin300/300
Softwares: SPb Phonesuite, Spb Backup, Spb Diary, Spb Traveller, Spb Wallet, Spb Finance, Spb Insight, Core Player, Resco explorer 2007 6.16, Tomtom 6.030.

[fards]

Is your 7501 unlocked?


also try the SD Card method.

This is what I use. So much less aggro!

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Athena_SD_Card_Flashing

Rename the .NBH file to ATHEIMG.nbh and copy it to your miniSD card. Press camera+com manager+soft reset to bootloader and wait for reading ATHEIMG.nbh from SD. Remember, the miniSD card must be formatted with a FAT32 filesystem before copying the file ATHEIMG.nbh to your miniSD. After finished, do a soft reset.

[ruyzalim]

I can confirm that the removal of BTIO has fixed my battery. It has been 3 days now and I am on vacation today. While working outside I listened to music using Windows Media Player for 5 hours non stop through a bluetooth stereo headset. Also the MP3 are on the Microdrive. I had the GPRS on with Push email running on a work day (50 or so emails). I also had about 20 min of phone usage. This is better than some mp3 players and most other phones that I have had. Also the MP3 are on the Microdrive.

hello how can i remove BTIO? I tryed to delete but , it says i can't i eaven stoped it before delete it :(

many thanks in advance

[marka2k]

hello how can i remove BTIO? I tryed to delete but , it says i can't i eaven stoped it before delete it :(

many thanks in advance

You can't just remove it from the windows/startup folder and soft reset.

[ruyzalim]

You can't just remove it from the windows/startup folder and soft reset.

thanks, home it doesn't come with nex rom version;)

[orinoco]

Is your 7501 unlocked?


also try the SD Card method.

This is what I use. So much less aggro!

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Athena_SD_Card_Flashing

Rename the .NBH file to ATHEIMG.nbh and copy it to your miniSD card. Press camera+com manager+soft reset to bootloader and wait for reading ATHEIMG.nbh from SD. Remember, the miniSD card must be formatted with a FAT32 filesystem before copying the file ATHEIMG.nbh to your miniSD. After finished, do a soft reset.

Hello, I tried this, bit I get a quick message that shows saying "No Image File" and then the 7501 goes back to the color stripes screen. Any clues?

[LTxda]

thanks, home it doesn't come with nex rom version;)

It`s been removed in 3.0. I still run it only when necessary.

[LTxda]

Hello, I tried this, bit I get a quick message that shows saying "No Image File" and then the 7501 goes back to the color stripes screen. Any clues?

Make sure the SD card has nothing else on it but the image file. If it still fails format the card, put the image back on and try again. In case something is missed the the wiki.

[Mahmood]

does anyone know when is PK version 3.0 coming !!!! if they know the day or week when it will come out !!! iwanted to install some softwares and therfore want to knoe if it takes long time for release then i can install softwares and wait fo 3.0 little longer after the release. the software iam going to install on my ameo takes lots of time !!! hoop that developers can tell the exact time or week !! thanks

[orinoco]

Make sure the SD card has nothing else on it but the image file. If it still fails format the card, put the image back on and try again. In case something is missed the the wiki.

Yeap, I tried formatting the card to FAT32, reloading the image file, and it worked for a second, until the grey screen in the 7501 reads now "RESTORE FAIL".

Any clues? i'll keep trying...

Thanks.

[Madhadder]

does anyone know when is PK version 3.0 coming !!!! i

It will be out when TPTB are done with it and say its ready.. Till then sit back relax and chill... :cool:

[irus]

It will be out when TPTB are done with it and say its ready.. Till then sit back relax and chill... :cool:

i dont think mahmood was trying to rush anyone, he just didn't want to install all this stuff and then have to reinstall it 2 days from now. with that being said i am assuming u have no idea when pk 3.0 will be out :D
i think we should all try to be a little nicer and answer only questions to which we know the answer to :D:D

[Pawel062]

It will be out when TPTB are done with it and say its ready.. Till then sit back relax and chill... :cool:

3.0 is pretty much ready as of right now. we are just gonna keep testing and release when we are allowed. it has man new suprises and is very nice. at this point we are still testing so it wont be like 2.0 with bugs like battery problems etc... We are also working on the graphics side(well i am). All i will say is Audio Manager looks much better than 2.0 ;)

[eagle 1]

3.0 is pretty much ready as of right now. we are just gonna keep testing and release when we are allowed. it has man new suprises and is very nice. at this point we are still testing so it wont be like 2.0 with bugs like battery problems etc... We are also working on the graphics side(well i am). All i will say is Audio Manager looks much better than 2.0 ;)

Can you post any teaser screen shots?

Anxiously waiting.. Thanks to the whole group for their efforts. We really do appreciate your dedication and your time spent on the project. Also for yours and itxda's continued answers to the forum in general.

[LTxda]

does anyone know when is PK version 3.0 coming !!!! if they know the day or week when it will come out !!! iwanted to install some softwares and therfore want to knoe if it takes long time for release then i can install softwares and wait fo 3.0 little longer after the release. the software iam going to install on my ameo takes lots of time !!! hoop that developers can tell the exact time or week !! thanks

IF all goes as planned, maybe at the end of this week or sometime next week. :D

[LTxda]

Yeap, I tried formatting the card to FAT32, reloading the image file, and it worked for a second, until the grey screen in the 7501 reads now "RESTORE FAIL".

Any clues? i'll keep trying...

Thanks.

Give it a couple more tries. I hear that it's a bit temperamental and may not work every time. Otherwise I'm at a loss. If you have your x7501 unlocked it should work. If you haven't unlocked it go to the thread to unlock your device before continuing.

[LTxda]

Can you post any teaser screen shots?

Anxiously waiting.. Thanks to the whole group for their efforts. We really do appreciate your dedication and your time spent on the project. Also for yours and itxda's continued answers to the forum in general.

We'll try to post some shortly...but may decide against it as it'll take away from the initial impact during the release. LOL ;-P

Also, in regards to Audio Manager...it basically looks like crap right now so PK and I are working with the rest of the team to redesign the look...something I don't believe anyone else has tried. ;-)

Something everyone should know is that 3.0 will also have a much newer build of WM6. :D

[LTxda]

i dont think mahmood was trying to rush anyone, he just didn't want to install all this stuff and then have to reinstall it 2 days from now. with that being said i am assuming u have no idea when pk 3.0 will be out :D
i think we should all try to be a little nicer and answer only questions to which we know the answer to :D:D

That's a good point...only problem is that on another thread someone accused us of not caring about their problem. Seems like we can't win either way. LOL

:cool:

[sergiopi]

Any chance to have the video call feature fully working in the new rom?
It seems the only really annoying real vga bug.
To give my 5c to the knowledge using 128 dp and
It isn't IMHO a real vga problem, could be a problem of the video call application, may be related only to the phone skin.
I am not expert with Universal but may be they faced the same problem

[apap]

This message is probably out of context in this thread but I figures since you are the experts on rom modifications maybe you can figure a solution that I have not found in any Athena thread and possibly incorporate a solution in PK3. BTW PK2 is wonderful!

I have a thinkoutside (also known as targus) bluetooth keyboard that works fine for English but is unable to type in Greek (and I presume in other languages), despite my installing several multi-language keyboard programs that generally work with the bluetooth keyboard (sunnysoft, interkey, aekmap). I also have owned a universal and artemis and both are ok with Greek via bluetooth.

Does anyone know how to get the bluetooth keyboard to type in other languages (Greek specifically) for Athena?

Thanks,

[LTxda]

Any chance to have the video call feature fully working in the new rom?
It seems the only really annoying real vga bug.
To give my 5c to the knowledge using 128 dp and
It isn't IMHO a real vga problem, could be a problem of the video call application, may be related only to the phone skin.
I am not expert with Universal but may be they faced the same problem

This is indeed a trueVGA issue. Maybe do a quick post on Tobias` threade and see if he can resolve this in time to incorporate the fix into 3.0? See if you guys can get that done in the next couple of days to give us time for testing. Sound good?

[LTxda]

This message is probably out of context in this thread but I figures since you are the experts on rom modifications maybe you can figure a solution that I have not found in any Athena thread and possibly incorporate a solution in PK3. BTW PK2 is wonderful!

I have a thinkoutside (also known as targus) bluetooth keyboard that works fine for English but is unable to type in Greek (and I presume in other languages), despite my installing several multi-language keyboard programs that generally work with the bluetooth keyboard (sunnysoft, interkey, aekmap). I also have owned a universal and artemis and both are ok with Greek via bluetooth.

Does anyone know how to get the bluetooth keyboard to type in other languages (Greek specifically) for Athena?

Thanks,

I have no clue but maybe someone else. Try posting this in the accessories area and see if anyone knows of a fix.

[gtm55]

We'll try to post some shortly...but may decide against it as it'll take away from the initial impact during the release. LOL ;-P

Also, in regards to Audio Manager...it basically looks like crap right now so PK and I are working with the rest of the team to redesign the look...something I don't believe anyone else has tried. ;-)

Something everyone should know is that 3.0 will also have a much newer build of WM6. :D

Hello
this might help you? is not mine, i downloaded it from xda-developers ...where, i don't remember... it look nice

[JonSlater]

I've noticed two things, and I don't think they've ben mentioned prior in this thread. I don't know if they are unique to my device, an issue with WM6 generally or a consequence of PK2. I'm running PK2 with the replacement comm manager on a black HTC X7500.

1. Soft resetting through software normally doesn't power back on. I have to hold the power button down for a couple of seconds, and then it starts booting as normal.

2. If I leave the wifi on and the unit powers off, wifi is not usable afterwards. It says it's connected, but it isn't. The unit runs very slowly, as if it's running a process in the background. Switching wifi off clears that, but then it won't switch the wifi back on. Soft resetting fixes this.

[LTxda]

I've noticed two things, and I don't think they've ben mentioned prior in this thread. I don't know if they are unique to my device, an issue with WM6 generally or a consequence of PK2. I'm running PK2 with the replacement comm manager on a black HTC X7500.

1. Soft resetting through software normally doesn't power back on. I have to hold the power button down for a couple of seconds, and then it starts booting as normal.

2. If I leave the wifi on and the unit powers off, wifi is not usable afterwards. It says it's connected, but it isn't. The unit runs very slowly, as if it's running a process in the background. Switching wifi off clears that, but then it won't switch the wifi back on. Soft resetting fixes this.

I had these exact problems after installing some third party software to my stock WM6 a while back. I can't remember which product was causing it though so sorry I can't provide that info. Maybe someone else can help.

[LTxda]

Hello
this might help you? is not mine, i downloaded it from xda-developers ...where, i don't remember... it look nice

Awesome! We'll give it a try. What resolution do you run at? Will this look okay at all three resolutions? Also, would you mind posting some screen shots for us? :D

[JonSlater]

I had these exact problems after installing some third party software to my stock WM6 a while back. I can't remember which product was causing it though so sorry I can't provide that info. Maybe someone else can help.

I've got SPB Phone Suite, SPB Pocket Plus, Pocket Breeze all running on my Today screen (SPB+ as a tab in PB). It might be one of them.

I'll try the new SPB+ v4 that's just come out, in case it's that (and 'cos it's smaller and resource friendlier). If it's one of these and WM6 conflicting, I shall be sad. I didn't have these problems with WM5. I ran the official WM6 for a few weeks with the same software, but honestly can't recall if they happened then.

[gtm55]

Awesome! We'll give it a try. What resolution do you run at? Will this look okay at all three resolutions? Also, would you mind posting some screen shots for us? :D

screenshots on all three resolutions:

[Pawel062]

screenshots on all three resolutions:

http://www.sentraaldruk.com/uapa/capturetease.bmp
this looks better. covered up not to expose any secrets but to still tease :P

[TwoPlus1]

No fair...looks great though!

[Confucious]

Considering what went into 2 the amount of bugs was minimaland pretty much all sorted now. Looking forward to 3 but away in Madrid for a few days next week and won't be able to install it - unless it's released Monday - nudge, nudge ;) ;)

Only joking - we all respect the amount of work going into this release and eagerly await it when you guys are happy with it.

Thanks for all your efforts!

[cjwilber]

I've noticed two things, and I don't think they've ben mentioned prior in this thread. I don't know if they are unique to my device, an issue with WM6 generally or a consequence of PK2. I'm running PK2 with the replacement comm manager on a black HTC X7500.

1. Soft resetting through software normally doesn't power back on. I have to hold the power button down for a couple of seconds, and then it starts booting as normal.

2. If I leave the wifi on and the unit powers off, wifi is not usable afterwards. It says it's connected, but it isn't. The unit runs very slowly, as if it's running a process in the background. Switching wifi off clears that, but then it won't switch the wifi back on. Soft resetting fixes this.

This is similar to a problem I have had. I installed PK2.0 ROM and was going through gradually installing various of the additional packages, some of which reset te device.
I know that on 2 occasions the device appeared to lock up. I never tried holding down the power button to recover it, I just used the reset "switch". On both occasions the device failed to recover and I had to reflash the ROM.
It seems to be OK now, and to be honest I had put it down to a low battery condition. Nonetheless I have only applied limited cabs this time and it has not locked up.
One I specifically didn't install was the HTC Home PLugin and Customizer because, so maybe that was the culprit? The reason I didn't install this is because the email notification is broken, and that is a fundamental requirement of my device as I get rather a lot of email.
Note that the fix touted in various locations for this incorrect email notification is to install a POP account, but I can confirm that this doesn't fix things for me - my main account is an Exchange push account.

[Mahmood]

screenshots on all three resolutions:

thanks i was looking for this for a long time and also the green color is nice and has n ice theme. i hoop that pk 3.0 has it as addon !!!

[sergiopi]

Is the same I have in the DOPOD wm6 rom....

[beginner]

I still having an issue with the time zone of the clock. I adjust to mine (gm +1) but after reset ever comes to +2. It is not related any connection, as far as I know, that could readjust it.

Is the same for you?

[LTxda]

I still having an issue with the time zone of the clock. I adjust to mine (gm +1) but after reset ever comes to +2. It is not related any connection, as far as I know, that could readjust it.

Is the same for you?

So after a soft reset it reverts back to +2 even after you change it to +1? Or are you saying after a hard reset?

[docraj]

I still having an issue with the time zone of the clock. I adjust to mine (gm +1) but after reset ever comes to +2. It is not related any connection, as far as I know, that could readjust it.

Is the same for you?
@beginner

please refer to the following post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1494106&highlight=ShowNITZPage#post1494106

[beginner]

So after a soft reset it reverts back to +2 even after you change it to +1? Or are you saying after a hard reset?

yes, after soft reset.

[edeplano]

yes, after soft reset.

I have this problem when I am in France and using an Orange France sim. When the phone connects to the network the network gets it to change time.

I have not been able to fix it, I even played with the registry to tell the phone not to sync time with the network but not worked!

When I am in the UK on Orange UK, no problem!

To see if it is your operator in Spain try disabling the radio then soft reset to see if the time stays ok, then reactivate the radio, wait 10 min and check again.

[sergiopi]

I tested on my VGA 128 DPI athena Ftouch. 60 Kb, works fine and add the same finger gestures implemented into the Kaiser.

More info here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=338143

[Pawel062]

I tested on my VGA 128 DPI athena Ftouch. 60 Kb, works fine and add the same finger gestures implemented into the Kaiser.

More info here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=338143

hmm i have enough space to fit this. everyone 3.0 is ready. Was going to release yesturday but had to go to sleep and also ltxda was not home to upload to somewhere everyone can download this from. I have the post for 3.0, addons, and rom ready. the only thing im going to do while i wait for ltxda to come on is test out ftouch as i have tried it when it first came out and it didnt work on athena but will try latest to see how it is and if its stable will add to rom. get ur phones ready this will be out within a few hours. watch athena mobile 6 closely!!

[Pantaloonie]

Woohoo!

It's been a bit quiet in the Athena forum recently, this should spice things up a bit!
Looking forward to checking out the new Rom...

[irus]

I tested on my VGA 128 DPI athena Ftouch. 60 Kb, works fine and add the same finger gestures implemented into the Kaiser.

More info here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=338143

I tried it on my athena 192DPI and it does not work. :(

[LTxda]

I tried it on my athena 192DPI and it does not work. :(

Have you tried both 1.0 and 1.1? If one didn't work try the other and see and let us know if you can and have time. ;-)

[irus]

well you called it. 1.0 works great except for opening the apps which i working on right now

[apap]

Hello,

Given it appears that PK3 is coming soon I thought of suggesting a new midlet manager that I have tried on my htc p3300 (artemis) called Esmertec Jbed.

It allows the use of the full screen area. I tried to install it on PK2 but it seems to install separately from your standard midlet manager and when I try to install midlets to it they go to the default manager.

Here is a reference to the new midlet and a link to download the cab http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=337273&highlight=midlet .

I think it would be a great addition to PK3.

Thanks,

[Abram]

well you called it. 1.0 works great except for opening the apps which i working on right now

Same here! scrolling on 1.0 seems to work great. Can't seem to get the apps lauched tho. v1.1 just freeze the device (running @ 192dpi). maybe a bit unstable to include in a rom. An addon perhaps?

[fards]

Same here! scrolling on 1.0 seems to work great. Can't seem to get the apps lauched tho. v1.1 just freeze the device (running @ 192dpi). maybe a bit unstable to include in a rom. An addon perhaps?

i cant get 1 or 1.1 to work.. still on 0.4a works does work stunningly well in all dpi

[Abram]

i cant get 1 or 1.1 to work.. still on 0.4a works does work stunningly well in all dpi

I've actually got left-right & right-left apps to work so far (after modifying the config text); not up-down or down-up yet (only installed this evening). So they may work as described as well.

[LTxda]

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=338409

Enjoy peeps!

[Madhadder]

Hello all...

Looking at the screenshots of this ROM on the 1st pages shows a blue version of the backround design - Link (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=329992)

Now I've looked thru the ROm image and extracted the Ap Touch.tsk
file, but the blue verserion is not there. Was it left out/changed before final release? Or am I looking in the wrong place?

Id like to use the blue backround image, or a blue version of the current green ver.

Anybody know where I can find these images?

[Pawel062]

Hello all...

Looking at the screenshots of this ROM on the 1st pages shows a blue version of the backround design - Link (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=329992)

Now I've looked thru the ROm image and extracted the Ap Touch.tsk
file, but the blue verserion is not there. Was it left out/changed before final release? Or am I looking in the wrong place?

Id like to use the blue backround image, or a blue version of the current green ver.

Anybody know where I can find these images?

that is the mack 14 tsk found in the addons of 2.0 and 3.0

[Madhadder]

Thanks for the info... Ill have a look

[boydd_uk]

Is there a solution to the problem where the font is displayed incorrectly unless you change to realvga 96dpi mode?

[Confucious]

Is there a solution to the problem where the font is displayed incorrectly unless you change to realvga 96dpi mode?

Try using 3.0 Dual!

[rudingp55]

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[D1ab70]

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You have no right what so ever to share any prerelease ap4 roms or to advertise so.This is clearly a violation after a moderator warned in the ap4 prerelease thread not to share this rom as did irus.The only people allowed to give rom is the ap team (ltxda,pawel062,cmonex,olipro) and that there is no communication of ap4 outside of designated irc channels.It has been made clear inside those designated irc channels to prerelease tester not to share ap4 rom ,and if you are one of those tester you would have not only went against what the mod said but as well as the ap team.This is totally disrespectful to the ap team as well as the athena community.
If you think you are slick by posting in ap2 thread you are wrong.The mod is notified and ap team will be notified as well.You deserve the same fate irus got by the ap team and community.
You are now the proud winner of the Dickhead of the week award!

[Brau0303]

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Please wait for the official AP4.0 release or you could brick your Athena!! it will be bug free and have supporting documentation, the post above is a pre-release and comes with NO Support!! Think Please!!

Cheers
BR