Touchflo-less "Clean ROM" with Biotouch

[fzzyrn]

I'm thinking about two things. I dont really use touchflo, but i want a rom thats not program filled, like the stock ones. Touch-IT and PDAViet are sort of fulfilling in this sense, but they include touchflo.

I would be looking for a rom without ANY extra programs, but WITH biotouch (the finger scrolling thing)

Is this possible?

[falconeyez]

I agree. The cube is nice visually, but it's really kind of pointless.

[fzzyrn]

concur. Maybe we can get somebody of higher knowledge to make us a wing rom with the specified modifications "cough*Itje*cough*. No pressure though.

[ttran001]

I'm thinking about two things. I dont really use touchflo, but i want a rom thats not program filled, like the stock ones. Touch-IT and PDAViet are sort of fulfilling in this sense, but they include touchflo.

I would be looking for a rom without ANY extra programs, but WITH biotouch (the finger scrolling thing)

Is this possible?

If you have a wing like me, you can try the following.
Just an idea, but what about installing the t-mobile rom with just touchflo.
Which does not have all of the extra apps, then go to TF setting and disable all except for Enable Scroll.

[fzzyrn]

Actually, i need the RAM AND the memory that is being taken over by touchflo. Biotouch is useful as hell, but touchflo, even when installed, takes up space. Also, other apps still run in the background. A fully optimized one would run no other apps in the RAM other than those required to function + Biotouch.

[neptune]

Actually, i need the RAM AND the memory that is being taken over by touchflo. Biotouch is useful as hell, but touchflo, even when installed, takes up space. Also, other apps still run in the background. A fully optimized one would run no other apps in the RAM other than those required to function + Biotouch.

AFAIK this should not be that difficult, you should be able to seperate biotouch files from the HTC_touchflo oem. Drop a line to PDAViets Tom Codon (he is is the one that created the touchflo oem for cooks) and ask him what the situation is, I am sure he will be glad to help you with a file list that is associated with biotouch. After that it is simple as running a kitchen once and just dropping in the files.Get a list of associated files and I could cook one for you...but I wouldn't take my time with it like itje does, I would just add that and thats it. There is much to be done other than that, mainly registry setting and a clean up of the rom. Should consider checking out the hypercore kitchen thread, it is very easy once you get the hang of it, just very time consuming.

edit:just checked out the oem and most of the files say biotouch before it, the only ones I am not sure about but I think you should include are the.brn files...anyone care to comment on the use of these files

also here is a link for anyone interested in the oem

http://rapidshare.com/files/47474833/HTC_TouchFlo.zip

[FZZF]

I'm thinking about two things. I dont really use touchflo, but i want a rom thats not program filled, like the stock ones. Touch-IT and PDAViet are sort of fulfilling in this sense, but they include touchflo.

I would be looking for a rom without ANY extra programs, but WITH biotouch (the finger scrolling thing)

Is this possible?

that would be nice I never use the cube myself, a vanilla bare bone rom is what I am looking for just like what anichilus did for the wizard I actually started cooking one 2 days ago but I could not get the kitchen to work and the fact that I never cooked a rom does not help much, but a rom based on the T-mo one without any T-mo stuff and all the extra Micro$oft crap and a few basic tweaks would be fantastic I will just keep dreaming for now, I am using the touch-it light I removed most T-mo stuff and all extras that I could remove, changed the pagepool to 4 MB and it's running great thanks again itje, hmmmmm.......whispering vanilla..:)

[fzzyrn]

I believe the .brn files are animation files for the cube. Dunno how to do this though. I'm clueless in HyperCore. If nobody's asked Tom_Codon, i'll ask him.

[neptune]

I believe the .brn files are animation files for the cube. Dunno how to do this though. I'm clueless in HyperCore. If nobody's asked Tom_Codon, i'll ask him.

no need to ask him, got it on the first attempt. I've made a WM6 Herald Rom with the only change being the added biotouch. I'm gonna spend the next few weeks trying to remove all the extra stuff. Unfourtunately I don't have a wing so I won't be cooking a clean rom for the wing(unless someone wants to write down exactly all the files they want me to remove), not familiar with all the stuff they put on there. Although, I can cook t-mobile rom with just biotouch enabled...but who would want to use that with all the extra crap they put in there.

[itje]

the bm files is the cube

[neptune]

the bm files is the cube
ye figured it out thanks...do you know how I could remove internet sharing completely??

EDIT:I've been able to find and completely remove 100's of files associated with voice speed dial,adobe,audiomanager,windows live&msngr,midletmanager,winzip

the programs I am having trouble fully removing are:
*internet sharing (i know in SYS folder there is INTERNETSHARING...anything else associated with this app) "
mediaplayer (i know its mediaOS but not sure if I can delete the .dll also in these folders)


I'm also planning to remove the games aswell.

EDIT:you think its alright to remove the transriber folders, (3 of em) i notice some picture files in there that might still be needed unless there is another version of them of the rom

[fzzyrn]

If i'm not mistaken, which i probably am, the only difference between the wing and the herald is the keyboard. But i'm probably wrong.

Maybe Itje can provide us with a list of things he changed to make Touch-it for wings.

[itje]

if you remove to much, the os.nb will become smaller then the 50mb limit and wont work. So if you remove very much, add stuff too :)

[neptune]

if you remove to much, the os.nb will become smaller then the 50mb limit and wont work. So if you remove very much, add stuff too :)

wasn't aware of such a limit. at one point I had it tested and working at 43mb. added batterystatus,a theme and some other stuff. Currently I am sitting at 48mb and am looking to have it at around 40mb if possible. By removing WMP and Powerpoint I should get a little closer.

Who told you about this limit btw???

[fzzyrn]

Huh. Sound good. Shame about the potential 50mb limit, thought it would be nice if it wasn't true.
But anyway, what ARE the differences between the herald and the wing? It'd be nice to know, so maybe we can make some cab fix.

[itje]

wasn't aware of such a limit. at one point I had it tested and working at 43mb. added batterystatus,a theme and some other stuff. Currently I am sitting at 48mb and am looking to have it at around 40mb if possible. By removing WMP and Powerpoint I should get a little closer.

Who told you about this limit btw???


Meschle (chef on artemis section, and moderator)
but maybe thats just on the artemis....
If you get it to work on lower mb, thats just good :) herald owns artemis :)

btw, I managed to port a rom (sys folder) from a artemis to herald, I flashed it today and it worked great.
Im gonna port a rom to the wing when im done with the ones im working on now. Currently working on getting the Kaiser sys ported to herald, if this is success ill do one for wing too.

[fzzyrn]

dang. hopefully it IS just for artemis
Oh and i worship you.

[neptune]

let me know how that kaiser port comes port comes along. I would love to play around with that in a kitchen.

cheers

[neptune]

btw itje whats the memory situation on your latest rom after a fresh flash for the storage and program memory, both the total and in use...just curious for comparison

[itje]

Ill give an answer to that later tonight (gmt +1) Im gonna test a new build then :)

[trallala]

Any news about a clean touchless rom? TIA

[tiksister]

Uhm... I would go even farther and ask for a CLEAN ROM with only what's needed to make the pocket and phone work as for all the rest can be installed, even the biotouch.

Anyone?

[zacwhite15]

Uhm... I would go even farther and ask for a CLEAN ROM with only what's needed to make the pocket and phone work as for all the rest can be installed, even the biotouch.

Anyone?

i absolutely agree... though we should keep xbutton... but the only question is can we go under the 50mb limit on the rom size??? if we can find a way around that then imagine how much storage we would have :)

[xavier6303]

I concur, a clean "bare bones" rom would be great with the os.nb file available so we can all cook our own. That would be awesome!

[ttran001]

I'm thinking about two things. I dont really use touchflo, but i want a rom thats not program filled, like the stock ones. Touch-IT and PDAViet are sort of fulfilling in this sense, but they include touchflo.

I would be looking for a rom without ANY extra programs, but WITH biotouch (the finger scrolling thing)

Is this possible?

Try this, it's my first rom rebuild.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=FZ1M0WEG

TMobile Wing with Biotouch
4MB Page Pool

Notes: I did not do any thing special, I just removed the touchflo stuff and rebuilt the rom, and changed the page pool to 4MB.
I take no credits for any of the stuff, just trying to learn and help others.

Enjoy,

[trallala]

Thanks ttran001 !
I suppose this only works with a TMO Wing and not a "regular" herald/P4350 ?

[ttran001]

Thanks ttran001 !
I suppose this only works with a TMO Wing and not a "regular" herald/P4350 ?

This rom was based on the TMObile wing Rom.
I will recook a rom for the regular herald later on today.


Thanks,

[xavier6303]

This rom was based on the TMObile wing Rom.
I will recook a rom for the regular herald later on today.


Thanks,

I am trying to run throught the kitchen and I may have run into a problem. I am just trying to get comfortable with the kitchen right now so I took the T-Mobile ruu_signed.nbh and dumped it for the os.nb. Then I ran the extraction through the kitchen and had no errors. I built my new os.nb and I'm in the process of flashing my version to my phone. I got a bunch of "the system cannot execute the specified program" errors and then it started copying (CopyFiletoTFFS). I am going to let it finish and see what happens but Im pretty sure it wont boot. If it doesnt, mind if I throw some questions at you?

Thanks
Kevin

EDIT** Sweet!! It flashed!! Im not sure what all the error messages were during the start of the flash but it booted up fine. Now to test my build!

[tiksister]

No one?

Is there a way to get a clean ROM with only the essencial to make the pocket and the phone work?

[xavier6303]

No one?

Is there a way to get a clean ROM with only the essencial to make the pocket and the phone work?

Im not good enough yet to know what is essential and what is garbage...

sorry

[tiksister]

Hum... sorry bout that... what I ment was something like the original ROM without t-mobile's stuff. Kinda like a unbranded ROM with the original wm6 programs as it would come in any wm6 device. 'Cause all the rest can be installed and I would rather have the choice to install and uninstall everything so I could test and decide if I want or not touchflow, biotouch, windows live, office, etc... but this is just me... grumpy young man... hehehehe