New Software: Windows Mobile 6 - IMSMS (Instant Messaging SMS)

[IMSMS]

Site Moved!: IMSMS PPC Pro edition and Smartphone is now released 1.0!

So many features, just see the home site for info! :)
(see link below)

Skinning INfo: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=333619&page=24

Hi,

I spent some time writing this app and would love your feedback/testing. The UI is still being tweaked but the core engine is working fine. Of course, there's more customisations to do but I feel the overall app works. There's quite a bit of undocumented features but I am in the process of improving/documentation. If you can give me some feedback on this, that would be great. This project was meant from day 1 to be FREE and accessible to everyone. I just hope you enjoy using it as much as I enjoy building it!

I've written specifically for HTC S620 (aka TMobile Dash). Uses WM6/.NET CF 2.0 (which is built into ROM) so you should be able to run it. Everything else is in the .cab file package. It can be oriented to portrait but prefered to be run in landscape mode. Supports emoticons and more along with message backup.

Tutorial (UPDATED) and download:
Tutorial and DOWNLOAD LINK (http://dsosoftware07.googlepages.com/imsms-instantmessagingsms)

Disclaimer:

as always, use at your own risk - you lose your data, I'm not responsible. You kill your phone, your loss - the usual deal - but rest assured, it's harmless.

[yaron316]

it says that the cab installation was unsuccessful on WM6

[geezer78]

Hi,

looks really cool... do you think it can work while sending sms over IP, through voipbusterpro or a similar provider? that way we can text for free using your app!

gijs

Edit: Yaron316 is right, can't install on WM6...

[Trekvogel]

Installation fails.

[IMSMS]

Hmmm..

sorry folks - I just reposted the .cab installer - It's strange, it works fine - I installed it on another wm5 device and it worked. If you guys don't mind, I have the installer reuploaded and hopefully this time it will work. The final build will be signed - right now, it's not signed so if your device asks you about running it unsigned, say yes (for those who don't know)

Thanks again,
DSO

[yaron316]

sorry man, same error....
still doesn't work

[IMSMS]

sorry man, same error....
still doesn't work

What model phone and what ROM version do you have?

What is the specific error or is it a general app install failure message?

Is your device application unlocked as well?

Again, I apologize for the failed install. I will grab another WM6 device to try out.

---DSO

[yaron316]

well it's a wizard with TNT 5.0 WM6 rom. the error is still "cab installation was unsuccessful". i think the cab packing is wrong.

[IMSMS]

well it's a wizard with TNT 5.0 WM6 rom. the error is still "cab installation was unsuccessful". i think the cab packing is wrong.

I am going to see if I can grab a retail WM6 device to test the install. I will see what the hell is happening. The .cab is compressed but not signed - so app unlocking is necessary. But i will see what the retail WM6 device reports back.

---DSO

[pvillasuso]

it says that the cab installation was unsuccessful on WM6}

Same here .. HTC Touch WM6 Pro :(

[fzzyrn]

huh.. it says it was made for the dash, which is a smartphone, not a ppc.
anybody try this on a smartphone?

[Carnivor]

Any chance of porting this over to PPC with VGA and maybe WVGA compatibility? It's exactlly what im looking for!!!!!

[IMSMS]

Hi,

This is a rough start - you know how software development can be at times - nothing seems to work as planned lol. But believe me, the version build is stable enough to warrant a release. I scrapped the installer and recreated the packaging fresh. Nothing seems to be wrong with it initially (no unusual errors in the .log file). I just scrapped it and redid it just to be sure.

Just also make sure you device is application unlocked because this is unsigned release. It was designed to work on an HTC S620 but will adjust to screen orientation at least in Windows Mobile 6 (standard/pro).

I reuploaded the installer (IMSMS_Install.cab) and hopefully it will work. I am in the process of acquiring another Windows Mobile 6 smartphone to test installer. THis is really pissing me off because the app is seriously worth the time ;)

I am still improving but having limited budget (no surplus of phones to test) sucks as well (being realistic). Give it a chance and see if it really suits your needs - I know I needed something like this for a while - something that is fast and easy to use.

I'll be back later to confirm if indeed this installer will work. I may just recompile on another workstation since this (x64 vista visual studio) may be having problems as well.

---DSO

[IMSMS]

Any chance of porting this over to PPC with VGA and maybe WVGA compatibility? It's exactlly what im looking for!!!!!

I need some more feedback - but I don't see why not - the core engine can work with any component - I just did not spend too much time tweaking a custom UI (limited in power on the HTCS620 - possible UI lag issues). I'm very sure it can be made to accomodate a widescreen device as well.

I just need this damn installer to work!

---DSO

[petervbeck]

Hey guys,
i tried to install and it ended up with the same error (unsuccessful) -
Then i opened the cab file - there is an entry "Maximum OS version" - i changed the build number to 0, saved the cab and i was able to install the IMSMS.
Also changed the location for the shortcut (was %ProgramFiles%), now it's %StartMenu_Programs%. Hope this info will help you.
Added the rebuilt cab to my post...

seems to be a nice tool, thanks!

Cheers

cab deleted....

52783

[IMSMS]

FIXED!

Seems like the STUPID COMCAST hosting corrupted my .cab file! I was pulling my hair out - until I realised it was corrupted every time I uploaded the file!

Please go to the main site and download the IMSMS_Install.zip

It will INSTALL now :) (like you haven't heard that one before ;)

---DSO

[IMSMS]

Hey guys,
i tried to install and it ended up with the same error (unsuccessful) -
Then i opened the cab file - there is an entry "Maximum OS version" - i changed the build number to 0, saved the cab and i was able to install the IMSMS.
Also changed the location for the shortcut (was %ProgramFiles%), now it's %StartMenu_Programs%. Hope this info will help you.
Added the rebuilt cab to my post...

seems to be a nice tool, thanks!

Cheers

52784

52783

Hi, can you please remove the link to the altered file please? I have the new installer that has the shortcut to the Start Menu folder as well ;)

Thank you for your support!!

PS:

IM Messages saved:

All messages are saved in your DEVICE\My Documents\IMSMS_Logs\ folder (or \My Documents\IMSMS_Logs\ ) full path. They are saved internally as XML files – with the core engine rendering them into an HTML file for viewing. In the next release, there will be an archiving function that will generate the backup files for you on the fly and allow XSLT translations into readeable offline message logs. You can now just drag & drop any of the log files you see in your \My Documents\IMSMS_Logs\ folder for viewing on your desktop.

[Carnivor]

Ok, a bit of progress, and some possible failure,

Its installed fine, on the whole looks fine on WVGA, the name box is ok, the black text entry box has writing thats to big for it, i loose some of the writing into the white area underneath,

now here's the possible failure, i cant send what ive written, is there a trick to this i'm missing? i looked through the tutorial but couldnt see anything obvious.. also the built in help goes off the bottom of the screen, maybe a scroll bar required? I see the create sms in the menu is to "NOT" use IMSMS to send a text so i dont know how to send what ive typed in. I've tried the SIP enter key, and the hardware enter key, nothing sends :(

The program wont start when im in landscape, but starts fine in portrait which is odd.

but all in all not really much wrong with using the app in WVGA, cept i cant send sms's lol

[yaron316]

Ok, a bit of progress, and some possible failure,

Its installed fine, on the whole looks fine on WVGA, the name box is ok, the black text entry box has writing thats to big for it, i loose some of the writing into the white area underneath,

now here's the possible failure, i cant send what ive written, is there a trick to this i'm missing? i looked through the tutorial but couldnt see anything obvious.. also the built in help goes off the bottom of the screen, maybe a scroll bar required? I see the create sms in the menu is to "NOT" use IMSMS to send a text so i dont know how to send what ive typed in. I've tried the SIP enter key, and the hardware enter key, nothing sends :(

The program wont start when im in landscape, but starts fine in portrait which is odd.

but all in all not really much wrong with using the app in WVGA, cept i cant send sms's lol

same here, the install works now but i can't send the messege

[pvillasuso]

same here, the install works now but i can't send the messege

HTC Touch WM6 Pro

OK now its working 90% .. but same as mate ... dont have a tool to send the messege after writing it on black area text .. (already hit the ENTER key or the middle button on the navigation keypad ) but nothing happens..cursor stays there....

I actually like , its gonna be a Hit ! great work ...

[IMSMS]

Hi guys-

The app is built on the HTC S620 (tmobile Dash). I did not have the resources at the moment to check on an HTC touch or advanced touchscreen device -

To send a message is super easy:

On the HTC S620 and other smartphones, just highlight the black text message input (the long black textbox). Start typing your message. YOU HIT the MIDDLE navigation button (OR ENTER on your keyboard). It will send the message.

BUT you have to be sure that there is a FRIEND (which is your system contact) added to the ORANGE friend's list box. That's it.

TO verify, you will see your text entered into the chat log with that FRIEND (from the Orange box) displayed; it's displayed right below the text input box (the long black text box - quite obvious).

EVEN if you have an incorrect MOBILE TELEPHONE number setup in your system contact book for that FRIEND listed in the ORANGE box, the engine will still send but return an error message if message was not sent successfully.

What are you guys seeing (those who have WVGA/Touch screens?). What happens to your text (in the black text input box) after you hit the MIDDLE navigation button/or the ENTER button on your keyboard?

I need to know so I can guestimate the bug on your particular device. Again, this app was never tested on touchscreen platforms - but should work the same way.

I'll respond when I get some more feedback from ya'll. Thanks again so much for the feedback!

ALSO:

Be sure all your contacts contain a MOBILE TELEPHONE number. The format will have to be : +14251234567
+1 = country code
425 = area code
1234567 = 7-digit calling number.



When you send a message (image below): just hit "ENTER" or "RETURN" key or "the middle navigation button (on smartphones)":
It's real easy...
http://home.comcast.net/~ddtsoft/IMSMS/Instant_Messaging_SMS_files/image002.gif

[Carnivor]

im definatly using the correct dialing +44 111 1234567

the layout is 90% correct only a font issue it seems on the text entry box,

Just cant find any keys to actually send the message,

Also ive noticed now, that an incomming text is not being picked up by the app, i had the intercept option ticked and still the normal notification popped up and nothing in the logs

[IMSMS]

Keyboard issues (send message for PPC/Touch/WVGA users)

Redownload the IMSMS_Installer.zip

I have correct a keycode that may fix your problem. Simply reinstall - it will preserve your settings/friends AS LONG AS YOU select MENU->Settings->Save Data/Settings.

When you restart the app, it will load your settings saved.

Try it out!

[IMSMS]

im definatly using the correct dialing +44 111 1234567

the layout is 90% correct only a font issue it seems on the text entry box,

Just cant find any keys to actually send the message,

Also ive noticed now, that an incomming text is not being picked up by the app, i had the intercept option ticked and still the normal notification popped up and nothing in the logs

The font issue is fixed. The new .zip contains the updates. It will actually rotate to landscape or portrait now. The target platform was incorrect in previous build due to my compiling haste.

THis new build contains the Enter Keycode and REturn keycode so you can try both. It fixes the font height/box as well.

Please use the number WITHOUT spaces so:
+441111234567
:)

[IMSMS]

The "MENU->Chat Logs->Enable Msg Instant Update" feature explained:

When you have a FRIEND selected in the ORANGE friends list box, you are conversing with that person. Their chat log will be displayed. Let's say you have the "Enable MSG Instant Update" turned off (not checked), when someone else sends you a text message, your current chat log (the messages between you and the FRIEND listed in the ORANGE list box) WILL NOT GET OVERWRITTEN (not overwritten as in erased but overwritten meaning the new message won't be displayed instantly) - rather you will get a RED ALERT icon on the upper right hand corner.

NOte: if this is turned on, your "chat log" will instantly be updated with other sender's messages - this can be useful to some and distracting to others. That's why it's an OPTION to be ON or OFF ;)

You will either scroll your FRIENDS LIST (left or right) until the notification disappears. IF IT STILL REMAINS after you circulate thru your list of FRIENDS, that just means the message received is not from one of your friends you have added. It's an "anonymous" sender. Just view the ANONYMOUS log via the (MENU -> Chat Logs -> View Anonymous Log). That will instantly clear the nofication AND display who just messaged you. ANYONE THAT IS NOT SETUP TO BE YOUR FRIEND (that is added to the ORANGE list box) will get their messages dump in the Anonymous Log.

It's designed to be easy to manage - hopefully this will clear things up!

Just remember, IMSMS WILL INTERCEPT ALL SMS TEXT MESSAGES. IT WILL EITHER DISPLAY THE FRIEND'S CHAT LOG RESPECTIVELY OR DUMP THEM IN THE 'ANONYMOUS LOG' - IF THAT NUMBER DOESN'T MATCH YOUR CONTACT'S MOBILE NUMBER: again, +14251234567
(no spaces, no parentheses)

Menu Item shown (with feature off - notice the SMS ALERT(1) which means you have ONE MISSED SENDER's MESSAGE(s). It does not mean you have ONE MESSAGE waiting - it's based on SENDER COUNT):
http://home.comcast.net/~ddtsoft/IMSMS/Instant_Messaging_SMS_files/image004.gif

Notice below that with the feature turn ON, any incoming messages will be overwriting your current chat log view with your FRIEND. Notice I'm speaking to Michael Jacksun, and I get an anonymous sender's text which is interrupting the chat log with Michael Jacksun and I...sometimes you want to be interrupted (waiting for someone to text you) and sometimes you don't want to be so you can choose either:
http://home.comcast.net/~ddtsoft/IMSMS/Instant_Messaging_SMS_files/image005.gif

[Carnivor]

Text in the black box is much much better!! maybe remove the bold, but perfectly acceptable.

Ive corrected the number, it had spaces in it, but still cannot sent the msg, dpad button, sip enter, and hardware keyboard enter, none send msg,

Screen rotation is sweet now!! flipping P2L and L2P effeciently.

Incomming Texts not appearing in the Anon Log

Definatly much improved over the earlier version, its unfortunate that the sending isn't quite fixed. This app has alot of scope!!

[IMSMS]

Text in the black box is much much better!! maybe remove the bold, but perfectly acceptable.

Ive corrected the number, it had spaces in it, but still cannot sent the msg, dpad button, sip enter, and hardware keyboard enter, none send msg,

Screen rotation is sweet now!! flipping P2L and L2P effeciently.

Definatly much improved over the earlier version, its unfortunate that the sending isn't quite fixed. This app has alot of scope!!

Hmmm..what device do you have right now?
I need to find out the hardware mappings...

[IMSMS]

I'm off for the day - I'll be back later!

some questions regarding:
Emoticons are in the software - just type them out:

Go to the MENU->Emoticons-> you will see a small listing (I just put in most common emoticons at the moment) - when you click on the menuitem, it won't add it for you - it does however display the text needed to type in for the emoticon you selected. Just type it in.

NExt build will be better - I just need the core engine running smoothly - before I add more UI tweaks, visual enhancements. Actually the option to set color for text, date/time format, sizes, is already in this new .2833 build. I just need a bit more time to make sure it's not bugged.

Thanks again for all your feedbacks. Enjoy it and don't rack up too much $ for sending IM lol (lucky for me, I have a Tmobile messaging package :D)

[IMSMS]

New updates:

Build 2900:
Much Improved! Pre-set TEXT MESSAGES are the way of the future - you can now archive your logs, set custom preferences, custom pre-set text messages - and more internal fixes to make it a bit more stable than before!


Since 0.9.2833:
===============
* Now includes chat log archiving
* Fixed save data/settings and load data/settings
* Improved internal engine error message handling
* Custom Text Messages (pre-set text messages)
* Custom Log folder saving
* Enable/disable sounds


Since 0.9.2831:
===========

* PocketPC WM6 Devices - fixed SEND MESSAGE ("ENTER","RETURN" key would not work)
* Added "SEND MESSAGE" to ACTION menu to allow send in case of PPC not being able to use "ENTER"/"RETURN" keys
* Fixed internal engine generating chat log bug - would cause exception when XML data were empty
* Fixed Send Text input box (would clip the Chat log interface)
* Fixed screen auto rotation

[cfds]

Downloaded latest build version...cannot unpack Rar...always get a msg about an damaged file...

It locked up my Qtek 9000 twice...

EDIT: After running App unlock, installed without a problem...

[IMSMS]

Please take another look:

http://home.comcast.net/~ddtsoft/IMSMS/Instant_Messaging_SMS.htm

I have updated build to .2950! BRAND NEW GUIDE!

Includes ONE VIEW!
check out the tutorial for more fixes, etc.

You'll like it more! :)

[IMSMS]

Please take another look (Friday, 10/5/07):

http://home.comcast.net/~ddtsoft/IMSMS/Instant_Messaging_SMS.htm

I have updated build to .2990! ** DYNAMIC ALERTS ** AND NEW GUIDE!

Includes ONE VIEW!
check out the tutorial for more fixes, etc.

You'll like it more! :)

[berndhufmann]

Can i change the income/outcome jingle to my private one? Thanks, your app is great!!

[pvillasuso]

cab file is corrupted !

***NEW 10/5/07*** Download Build 0.9.2991 (.CAB)

:(

[IMSMS]

SOrry guys, I was uploading again -

It's now there - and should not be corrupted.

Build 2991 fixes the dreaded pocketpc user's can't send button!

now fully works on HTC touch, pocket PCs, and other wm6 devices!

[pvillasuso]

SOrry guys, I was uploading again -

It's now there - and should not be corrupted.

Build 2991 fixes the dreaded pocketpc user's can't send button!

now fully works on HTC touch, pocket PCs, and other wm6 devices!

Im sorry , but "ZIP file" still corrupted :(

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m241/pvillasusom/zip.jpg

Still waiting to try this new version in my TOUCH ...

Seriously, It looks AWSOME ! I see money coming 4 u man ! :D
Great programmer !

[IMSMS]

Im sorry , but "ZIP file" still corrupted :(

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m241/pvillasusom/zip.jpg

Still waiting to try this new version in my TOUCH ...

Seriously, It looks AWSOME ! I see money coming 4 u man ! :D
Great programmer !

WTF!!?

I hate this stupid comcast - I have no $$ to get a proper hosting site - I have to resort to this piece of shxt!

I am going to REUPLOAD ONCE AGAIN. Try again in about 2 minutes
ARghhghghghhgh

[IMSMS]

OK - it should be uploaded. I tested this using another computer borrowed and the .zip is intact!

(I hope)...

please let me know what you think - feedbacks, suggestions, etc.

.2991 has a lot of features! and check out the manual online to help you go thru the features! ;)


Just to let everyone know - don't worry about your SMS messages - once you have IMSMS installed and running, it will keep all your chat logs. You can then ARCHIVE them (saving you tons of space) and then viewing them on your desktop computer using the archive viewing tool (also on the download site). Your messages can easily be extracted as well and kept forever - so rest assured about NOT losing your SMS text messages when using IMSMS!

[pvillasuso]

Downloaded ! :D

Gonna Try it now ! :cool:

Feedback soon !

[wacky.banana]

Hi,

I have been looking for a tool like this for a while that would give threading/chat like capabilities. Congratulations so far.

Problems I have testing this on a Tytn (Hermes) running WM6 is as follows:

Trying to send a message to a given friend gives the error message "trouble writing xml data - index out of range exception". If you click ok on the error message the text message then gets sent. However all responses back from the recipient, even though they have been selected as a friend and should therefore drop into thieir own chat log, seem to go only into the anonymous chat log.

Similarly messages that I originate do not seem to appear in any logs at all. So if I respond to a message within the anonymous log I don't get to see my response as part of the thread, which is different to what is shown in your tutorial.

Any ideas as to what the problem is? I am running build 09.2991.

When the SMS alert shows up the number of alerts is hidden by the black text entry bar. You may need to tweak this at some point.


Thanks

WB

[IMSMS]

Hi,

I have been looking for a tool like this for a while that would give threading/chat like capabilities. Congratulations so far.

Problems I have testing this on a Tytn (Hermes) running WM6 is as follows:

Trying to send a message to a given friend gives the error message "trouble writing xml data - index out of range exception". If you click ok on the error message the text message then gets sent. However all responses back from the recipient, even though they have been selected as a friend and should therefore drop into thieir own chat log, seem to go only into the anonymous chat log.

Similarly messages that I originate do not seem to appear in any logs at all. So if I respond to a message within the anonymous log I don't get to see my response as part of the thread, which is different to what is shown in your tutorial.

Any ideas as to what the problem is? I am running build 09.2991.

When the SMS alert shows up the number of alerts is hidden by the black text entry bar. You may need to tweak this at some point.


Thanks

WB

The error message is mainly due to the fact that you need to have the mobile telephone number in the correct format. It's a requirement for this build. You must have it in this format: +14251112222 (no spaces, no (), just like that.

If it gets dropped into the "anonymous chat log", that just means the number is not looked up in your system's contact book (simply, you either don't have the +14251112222 format correct under that contacts mobile telelphone number).

The UI is designed for the HTC S620. I will probably end up porting this over officially to the PPC/HTC touch world since I do know at the moment there may be a few clipping issues with the labels/icons.

You don't have to use the ALERT NOTIFICATION, you can use the DYNAMIC ALERTS - which will alert you on direct level - aka SMS Caller Missed ID.

It's important that you should follow the numbering format for now: +1425111222 for all MOBILE TELEPHONE numbers only! You can enter in (), hyphens, etc. BUt you must include COUNTRY CODE (with a +) and the AREA CODE. The online tutorial/manual tells you how to do this.
http://home.comcast.net/~ddtsoft/IMSMS/Instant_Messaging_SMS_files/image002.gifhttp://home.comcast.net/~ddtsoft/IMSMS/Instant_Messaging_SMS_files/image003.gif
http://home.comcast.net/~ddtsoft/IMSMS/Instant_Messaging_SMS_files/image004.gif

When you "ADD" contacts, you will see their MOBILE NUMBER listed next to their name. If you don't see your contact, that means they don't have a MOBILE TELEPHONE NUMBER. IMSMS currently (not for long though) requires a MOBILE TELEPHONE NUMBER.
http://home.comcast.net/~ddtsoft/IMSMS/Instant_Messaging_SMS_files/image008.gif


Thanks for your support - the manual is a good resource to use as well!

[IMSMS]

You can also use the new feature: Dyanamic Alerts:
http://home.comcast.net/~ddtsoft/IMSMS/Instant_Messaging_SMS_files/image031.gif

[kongocui]

The Chinese do not support. In support to the Chinese coding?

[berndhufmann]

Incoming sms didn´t show the correct german characters äöüß. How can i correct this issue? Thanks for reply.

[wacky.banana]

IMSMS,

Thanks for the response.. At least I now know the answer to the question I posed.

I'm a little peeved by this as, mindful of your comments on having telephone numbers in the correct format, I spent over 2 hours last night editing over 600 contacts to get this done. I used Outlook for the job as my contacts are synchronised to that.

Following your response I have now discovered that Outlook Contacts will accept the format +00123456789 but then pushes a space between the +00 and the 12345 when you save each contact. This is a real pain in the rear and means I am going to have to do this manually, on the phone, all over again!

Is there any reason why your tool uses such a rigid format template for contact numbers?

Good tool, btw, and I think the tutorial is excellent. You obviously thought the release process through properly before letting this out. Well done.

I will report back once I have sorted my contact numbers out.

WB

PS - I cottoned onto dynamic alerts pretty quickly last night, but thanks for the tip. :)

[IMSMS]

Build 3160 released! **mandatory install**

For those who haven't installed this yet, go ahead and download BUILD 3100 from the download site (post #1).

The build IMPROVEMENTS ARE HUGE.

I have gone thru hours and hours to fix many bugs and performance related issues. Biggest internal engine problem in past builds were the chat log threading issues. I am very happy to report they are all resolved!

Here are the highlights:

* Number format CAN INCLUDE SPACES, () PARENTHESES, DASHES/HYPHENS. **BUT** IN THIS BUILD, YOU STILL MUST HAVE COUNTRY CODE AND AREA CODE. Please see the online manual for instructions! I have updated the online tutorial as well!

* CUSTOM FEATURES include color customisations! Now you can make IMSMS look and feel the way you want - at least the look part ;-)

* fully resolved the threading deadlock issues!!

* optimised send/receive!

Here is the changelog:

Newest build (0.9.3100):
Since 0.9.3100:
===============
* Fixed internal engine causing DYNAMIC ALERTS TO fail when numbers in phone book contain (), spaces, hyphens, etc.
* Added new features:
* Added "Auto display" - when messages arrive and you are at your home screen, it will bring up IMSMS to the top level
* Added "Sound Notification Alert" - when set, even if you are not around to view your phone, IMSMS will play a sound every 60 secs alerting you of new messages
* Added "SMS Notify Other Applications" - when set (after setting this and restarting IMSMS- will allow system inbox to receive a copy of the message as well as IMSMS tracking the message.


Since 0.9.2995:
===============
* CUSTOM FEATURES ADDED!
* Fixed internal engine threading deadlock issues
* Fixed internal engine UI-threading issues
* Optimised engine sending and receiving messages (now much more robust!)
* Optimised Phone book add to friends list (fixed auto load from saved settings where old contacts not in system book were added)
* Mobile Telephone number still required - however format can be: +1 (425) 111-0001 or which ever way you want as long as it includes country code and area code
* Added CUSTOM COLORS!!
* Reorganized menu items such as Viewing/Archiving/Deletion of chat logs
* Revised internal engine message error handling (report CODE: numbers if encountered)

If you have any comments, questions, feature additions (yes, I hear you about having multiple numbers rather than mobile telephone number only) ;-) let me know! Email me anytime!

---DSO

[IMSMS]

The Chinese do not support. In support to the Chinese coding?

Right now, I am working on a multi-language version. Currently, pre-1.0 is for English only - or 7-bit text.

I am also working on PPC specific platform. Right now, you will not be able to view the character encoding (Chinese) - but not for long ;)

[IMSMS]

Incoming sms didn´t show the correct german characters äöüß. How can i correct this issue? Thanks for reply.

I am working on a multi-language version. thank you for your patience!

:)

[wacky.banana]

IMSMS,

This is excellent work. I have to say I was not looking forward to recoding my 600 odd contacts to fit into your original, rather restrictive, numbering template. Also making a copy of the incoming text in the system inbox is a good one; this was going to be one of my requests to you.

I will download, test and report back (well I would but Comcast is giving this message; Page URL Not Found!! The requested page does not exist on this server. The URL you typed or followed is either outdated or inaccurate). Can you sort please; thanks.

If its not already there you might want to consider a toggle to switch the 60 second reminder on or off.

Thanks

WB

[berndhufmann]

Sorry, your download link for the cab file didn´t work. Your provider couldn´t find the site. Pls help. Thanks!

[pvillasuso]

IMSMS,

Download link not working ! :confused:

[IMSMS]

IMSMS,

Download link not working ! :confused:

I had to take it down due to a very very very stupid issue with the add/remove feature - (due to a last minute feature addition) - and wasn't bug-checked properly.

I just uploaded it (~12.14pm).

Try it again!

BUILD .3162

[wacky.banana]

Some of the tutorial, from Customized Features down, is missing?

Thanks

WB

[wacky.banana]

IMSMS,

Have done some initial testing on the latest version posted, seems to work as designed.

Couple of observations: the SMS alert is still partially obscured by the black text input bar. Very minor issue this so don't bust a gut fixing it. I notice the quick help does not have the ability to scroll down through the window which means you can't see all of the help text available. Also, for some strange reason, you can move the quick help window around the screen but not size it so that you can see all of the help text.

Other than these minor gripes this is looking good. Have you thought about having a dropdown box to be able to select an alternative directory (say, on a memory card) to store the chat logs?

Once again many thanks for developing this tool. There have been an awful lot of people go for the ripped Palm SMS threading app, then discovered a bunch of issues when running on devices other than a Treo. Your app might just change all that. :)

Cheers

WB

PS Color options settings don't work on the Tytn as you can't see/access the left/right scroll arrows. This happens irrespective of viewing mode, i.e portrait or landscape.

PPS - Have you thought about having a visual notification written to the Today screen? That would be most helpful in picking up the fact that messages are waiting (plus the sound reminder, which is already there). Thanks.

[sunkey]

Nice program, but it doesn't support Chinese character display

[IMSMS]

IMSMS,

Have done some initial testing on the latest version posted, seems to work as designed.

Couple of observations: the SMS alert is still partially obscured by the black text input bar. Very minor issue this so don't bust a gut fixing it. I notice the quick help does not have the ability to scroll down through the window which means you can't see all of the help text available. Also, for some strange reason, you can move the quick help window around the screen but not size it so that you can see all of the help text.

Other than these minor gripes this is looking good.



Have you thought about having a dropdown box to be able to select an alternative directory (say, on a memory card) to store the chat logs?


There is already an option to store your logs in another directory other than the default. Please check out the online tutorial! :)



Once again many thanks for developing this tool. There have been an awful lot of people go for the ripped Palm SMS threading app, then discovered a bunch of issues when running on devices other than a Treo. Your app might just change all that. :)

Cheers

WB

PS Color options settings don't work on the Tytn as you can't see/access the left/right scroll arrows. This happens irrespective of viewing mode, i.e portrait or landscape.

PPS - Have you thought about having a visual notification written to the Today screen? That would be most helpful in picking up the fact that messages are waiting (plus the sound reminder, which is already there). Thanks.
[/quote]

There is a PPC pro version - this is specifically for PPC users!


Please see post #1:

[IMSMS]

Nice program, but it doesn't support Chinese character display

Multilanguage is coming real soon.

[IMSMS]

Hi -

My ISP is currently having an upgrade - I cannot access the site to upload the newest builds: 3170 so get it from attachments in POST #1 of this thread

it's now for smartphone (installer for smartphone) and one for PPC (separate) installer.

I will move everything off my current ISP and everything will reside on a proper site with a help forum as well.

Thank you,
DSO

[wacky.banana]

IMSMS,

Quite looking forward to the dedicated PPC version when its out.

Re the change directory thing, I am aware of how you have set this up currently; however what I was asking for is the ability to click in the directory box then see a cascade of available directories (bit like a mini windows explorer); however this is a minor issue. I'm hoping you will see merit in this idea sufficient to include in a future release.

How long is it going to take you to move ISP's (I'm an impatient man)? :) :)

Said several times but said again; thanks for the tool. Good to finally see something I have been searching around for ages come to life. Incidentally I have spread the word to the boys using the Palm SMS threader so they know this is here.

Cheers and thanks for the good work.

WB

[eatonjb]

so I don't get this program.

when I get a SMS from my AIM fowarded messages they end up an the Anonymous thing, and I cant read the message..

I don't get this program. is there a website with the info that works. Comcast keeps saying there is nothoing here.

[widigol]

Doesnt work.......on dopod 810 WM6.....cannot read anything...only black & orange screen.....

[raymondu999]

The link is dead/moving?

[wacky.banana]

Guys,

He is moving ISP's hence the dead links. My advice is to be patient.

Unfortunately the welll written tutoral is also on that site so access is not available at this time.

As for all MS going into Anonymous, you need to "import" your friends into the application first, then it will slot incoming messages into logs linked to the contact who sent them in.

Open the application, click on the action button, then choose add/remove friend.

WB

[Fightthegoodfight]

Anyone got new link or could post the new verison for download?

[IMSMS]

IMSMS is now 1.0b1!


(go to post #1) for new link!
here's what's happening:

Changes in 1.0b1:
==============
TOO MANY TO LIST HERE:

But, highlights are:

* 100% compatible with you phone book! That means whatever number you have in your phone book for the person you are messaging will be tracked by IMSMS!

* No more +1 country codes, etc. You leave your phone book as-is!

* AUTO START IMSMS when incoming messages arrive - that means you don't have to start IMSMS program to receive messages - when an incoming message arrives, it will auto start IMSMS and track your messages ;)

* Accepts all incoming messages regardless if they are in your friends list or not. No more anonymous logs to deal with!

* 90% code revision to the IMSMS engine - (there's a separate library to work with in the future) - released 1.0 final.

* improved multi -threading fixes and now should be a bit more robust

* Menu system is compacted

* Easier to manage friends list

* Dynamic alerts are super improved!

* new incoming/outgoing sounds


...there are many internal fixes - and bugs are still being tracked and optimisations are still ongoing.

Some notes:
==========
* in this current version, you will experience some slowdown issues when searching for contacts via your phone book (Action->Manage->Manage Friends). This is due to lack of optimisations - I had to bug out other core engine issues first - this is really minor because you don't spend much time managing your list anyway in this improved version!

* Emoticons are a pain in the butt - I will revise a different approach to this. It's off by default - due to the way PocketIE handles images on smartphones

* You will notice a "lag" when you hit the middle button to SEND/or the from the ACTION->SEND MESSAGE - You will hear a sound to identify your message is sending....but you will lag for a second or two - this is part anti-spam/flood feature - but also an IMSMS engine threading issue - that is still being decided at the moment. It's totally normal.

* AUTO START ON MESSAGE RECEIVED (inside, the MENU->Settings->Preferences menu, is where you should check if you want IMSMS to auto start whenever you get an incoming SMS. You will need to restart IMSMS after you enable this in order for it to work. You will also do the same when you disable it.

* The "HELP" menu will be redone.
* Custom sounds is coming real soon
* Multi-language is being tested right now
* PocketPC specific version is almost finished as well
* SMS data counters are coming in b2
* group send feature is being worked on as well and will be in b3
* Last but not least, due to the 90% code revision, it was decided this way because in version 2.0, there will be another IMSMS version that will utilize
custom graphics - the UI will be utilizing the IMSMS library.

There may be one or two buggys left out - but if you find them, please let me know. My email address is in the HELP->About menu. It's also on the new website.

TUTORIAL IS COMING SHORTLY. If you feel that you are a hogwarts supreme wizard, go ahead and try 1.0b1 without a manual. It should be the same as the previous builds except that it's much improved. The manual will include video demonstration for the ones who don't want to read text ;)

Thank you all for your support, email me anytime for comments - good and bad :)

---DSO

[Fightthegoodfight]

Wow, lots of new features, cant wait for pocket pc verison!

[IMSMS]

Wow, lots of new features, cant wait for pocket pc verison!

Pocket PC version .3171 is already released. I have the link somewhere, but you can get the 1.0b1 when I push it out this week. the PPC will be revised again before 1.0 final because i will utilize many advanced features on the ppc platform not available on the smartphone :(

Thank you for your support! :)

[IMSMS]

Pocket PC and a NEW slightly modified build of the SMARTPHONE edition are both online!

See post #1 for download link!
Instruction manual soon to be uploaded as well.

Thanks,
DSO

[wacky.banana]

IMSMS,

Good to hear from you again. I was just begining to think you were deserting us. :) I too am waiting for the PPC version whenever its due out.

If you have not already done this then an area for improvement is the text bar. Its fine writing text on a single line so it does not hide the thread underneath; however there needs to be a way of viewing the text written out, in its entirety, before its sent.

One way of doing this might be to create a dynamic text input window which starts life as a single line but when you tap the window it opens up/drops down into a bigger window to allow the viewing of written text. Tapping the window again should revert it back to single line state and so on.

What's your view on this? Single line at the moment is the only irritant on an otherwise excellent tool.

Keep up the good work.

WB

PS damit. You posted while i was still typing away :)

[wacky.banana]

Pocket PC and a NEW slightly modified build of the SMARTPHONE edition are both online!

See post #1 for download link!
Instruction manual soon to be uploaded as well.

Thanks,
DSO

Error 404 - page cannot be found.

Applies to both smartfone & ppc downloads.

[Fightthegoodfight]

Error 404 - page cannot be found.

Applies to both smartfone & ppc downloads.

Same issue here, cant wait to get my hands on this!

[IMSMS]

Yes, they are both uploaded - had to iron out the Dynamic Alert buggies - pain in the arse really!

---DSO

[IMSMS]

IMSMS,

Good to hear from you again. I was just begining to think you were deserting us. :) I too am waiting for the PPC version whenever its due out.

If you have not already done this then an area for improvement is the text bar. Its fine writing text on a single line so it does not hide the thread underneath; however there needs to be a way of viewing the text written out, in its entirety, before its sent.

One way of doing this might be to create a dynamic text input window which starts life as a single line but when you tap the window it opens up/drops down into a bigger window to allow the viewing of written text. Tapping the window again should revert it back to single line state and so on.

What's your view on this? Single line at the moment is the only irritant on an otherwise excellent tool.

Keep up the good work.

WB

PS damit. You posted while i was still typing away :)


Hi,

thanks for your feedback - The original design was intended for the puny HTC620. However, the entire engine is now re-written so that it can accomodate any graphical UI. It's not limited to what I have presently - in version 2.0, it will be a graphical UI instead of intrinsic components - due to time shortage, I did not write any custom components - but intend to do so in V2.

Use the PPC version. It's a bit faster than the smartphone - and hopefully, I kick the crap out of some stupid annoying issues still plaguing even the previous builds before 1.0B1-5101!

I apologize that it may be hard to type out your text and review - but I will improve this 10x in the next v2 debut.

I want everyone to know - this is not your average IM client app. It is your sms management tool as well. Because you can archive and view all your messages and the core engine supports many features not found in other IM clients - such as dynamic alerts! What is important to focus on is that it is meant to be fast and can handle your incoming messages just like a real IM client can. But using SMS. It's meant to be fast to switch logs and because it was designed to work 100% on the HTCS620 (tmobile dash), it's really fast to view friends list and switch chat logs on the fly.

I hate MSFT's pocketIE browser - I don't have enough time to make my own component but I will focus on this in the next release because POCKETIE is slow and a memory hog. As well as being unstable when you make it do things it's not really meant to do! ;)

BUT by using system components, you are almost guaranteed to have upgrade compatibility - when there's a new system component released from the windows mobile team, you can just reap the benefits of the new component rather than having to re-write your app to make it work for WM6.5 or whichever version is updated.

I appreciate you're time and suggestions/feedbacks/comments! I don't mind - just send me an email about anything - I'm always open to hear out what you all would like. I designed this application to meet my own needs - but i thought everyone could use something that is good and FREE :)

And it will always be FREE!

[IMSMS]

Seems like I spoke too soon ;)

those who have downloaded the 10.15.07 1PM installer, go back and REDOWNLOAD the new link : 10.15.07 2PM installer version.

The 1pm file is incorrect - because it does not contain the fix to correctly show your incoming messages time. the 2PM file download (uploaded already) has the fix for you.

Sorry for the blunder - I need to make sure I organize my files properly!

--DSO

[Fightthegoodfight]

Alright been fiddling with this for a good hour, works very well! I would love this to function similar to the Palm threaded app but without all the errors, and I think this is getting pretty close.

Only things i have problems with you have already meantioned (using pocket IE) once you have your own component this will be an even more solid app. And im assuming loading times will decrease?

It would also be neat to have some sort of "browse contacts" button for people you want to text but dont want to add to friends quick list.

Have you ever released source code for this?

Thanks thats all and I cant wait for future releases!

[IMSMS]

Alright been fiddling with this for a good hour, works very well! I would love this to function similar to the Palm threaded app but without all the errors, and I think this is getting pretty close.

Only things i have problems with you have already meantioned (using pocket IE) once you have your own component this will be an even more solid app. And im assuming loading times will decrease?

It would also be neat to have some sort of "browse contacts" button for people you want to text but dont want to add to friends quick list.

Have you ever released source code for this?

Thanks thats all and I cant wait for future releases!


Thanks for your feedback!

I never used the PALM program - but I have seen the text word here and there. I created this to be used myself - because I send text messages ~3000 or so more a month.

I will explain a few things before the official help guide is released:

Back in previous 1.0 builds, incoming messages were handled differently. In pre-1.0 builds, you have to enter a friend into your contact list in order for it to work. I've got several complaints about modifying numbers to fit IMSMS' standards which I have to agree is quite retarded back then: +1 country code, area code, prefixes, etc. I basically gave up that design because it is very limiting to how you deal with sms on our phones. Besides, no point in blocking anyone because you can't - unless you get your network to enable sms barring - you will receive every sms message regardless and will be charged even if you don't view it. So with that in mind, why not just accept everything?

Friends not added to your list use to show up in the anonymous log file. Which is deprecated in the newest builds. Here is how it all works in a nutshell:

Assuming you have "auto start" off (with it ON, IMSMS will start itself upon new messages that arrive):

You get an incoming text message from someone in your system contact book. IMSMS will know that. That person will now show up with a name or whatever name is assigned to that number.

Then you get an incoming text message that isn't in your contacts book or just formatted incorrectly even windows mobile cannot find a matching name to the number, IMSMS will still add that to your friends list box but without a name - just the sender's service number.

You can send directly to that person if you choose, or you can edit a new name for that particular number. It's up to you. (You do this thru the manage friends menu).

To sum it up in one word, all messages will arrive and IMSMS will handle all of them. There IS a "BLOCK" user function built into the new engine - I did not turn it on because it requires a bit more tweaking and not just ready for public. You have to also understand that there is a balance between being fast and easy and having to deal with each of your contacts individually - which is not very easy to do on a smartphone. ON the PPC, it's easy - because you have touch screen ;)

The design of IMSMS is based solely on the HTC S620. WIthout a touch screen. I released a PPC version for now (that includes small features not found on the smartphone) - but will completely overhaul it in beta3 release.

PPC is so much more powerful than smartphone - so I will utilize those advance features.

PocketIE sucks - but rather than having to reinvent the wheel - I needed something to do what I wanted - and more - PocketIE helps big time. Just don't make it work overtime ;) This is all in retrospect that IMSMS is again designed around the HTC S620.

As for load time, the app is not fully optimized - but memory usage should be lower, and the installation is 60% smaller than before (due to stupid audio streams).

I will release the engine library for public use in v2 release time frame. For now, I don't intend on making this open source at this time. The app is free and will be forever.

I stand by my work - and support it 100%. Just fire over any questions/comments anytime.


thanks again for your support!
---DSO

[wacky.banana]

IMSMS,

No apology necessary on the text input idea. Was simply a suggestion to improve the tool even further.:) As I said earlier, been looking for something like this for ever so I'm not going to complain now! :)

Off to download and test (hope the link is ok). Will report back presently.

Cheers

WB

[Fightthegoodfight]

I seem to have run across one bug, when I get a message ( I have IMSMS settings to start when i get a message) it doesnt show which person it has come from. So I have to scroll through the list and find which one (in this case i knew who it was from).

Perhaps I'm missing a setting?

Sorry for all the feedback, but i do love this program becuase i too send 3000 msgs a month!

Thanks FTGF

[wacky.banana]

OK,

Been testing and bugs found on the PPC version are as follows:

- With IMS running and a text message coming in results in the error messag "Unexpected error has occurred in IMSMS.EXE. Select quit and restart...". More detail is as follows:

NullReferenceException at n.u(0 at system.reflection.runtimeMethodInfo.InternalInvoke .....

- Also what tends to happen is as IMSMS has intercepted the text message but not been able to process it, the text message is effectively lost.

- In Settings, preferences, none of the following options get saved even when you try to:

auto display when message arrives
sound notification alert
sms notify other apps
auto start on message received
show emoticons.

If you save data settings then go back and check that the tickboxes are ticked then they remain that way. If you load data settings then nothing is found. If you save data settings, check, come out of the app and reload then nothing gets saved.

Hope this is enough for you to get on with.

Cheers

WB

[IMSMS]

I seem to have run across one bug, when I get a message ( I have IMSMS settings to start when i get a message) it doesnt show which person it has come from. So I have to scroll through the list and find which one (in this case i knew who it was from).

Perhaps I'm missing a setting?

Sorry for all the feedback, but i do love this program becuase i too send 3000 msgs a month!

Thanks FTGF

IMSMS will lookup who sent the message - it is based the same way WINDOWS MOBILE handles all name lookup in your system address book. Unless the number sent from (the sender's sms service number) is really not in your phone book - OR that you have it listed incorrectly - you still need at least an area code in order for the system to lookup the sender's name. without it, your system phone book will also fail to give you the sender name.

I will take a look at this later tonite - and I still need to process a few more feedback issues I've seen so far. Thanks again!

---DSO

[IMSMS]

OK,

Been testing and bugs found on the PPC version are as follows:

- With IMS running and a text message coming in results in the error messag "Unexpected error has occurred in IMSMS.EXE. Select quit and restart...". More detail is as follows:

NullReferenceException at n.u(0 at system.reflection.runtimeMethodInfo.InternalInvoke .....

- Also what tends to happen is as IMSMS has intercepted the text message but not been able to process it, the text message is effectively lost.

- In Settings, preferences, none of the following options get saved even when you try to:

auto display when message arrives
sound notification alert
sms notify other apps
auto start on message received
show emoticons.

If you save data settings then go back and check that the tickboxes are ticked then they remain that way. If you load data settings then nothing is found. If you save data settings, check, come out of the app and reload then nothing gets saved.

Hope this is enough for you to get on with.

Cheers

WB


The error message pertains to a threading issue with pocketIE - I am seriously about to dump PocketIE support and go with my custom component. I will re-run the binary tonite and test this issue - it seems to affect PPC users only at the moment.

The data saving should work - I will take a look again - but you can always redo your settings this way: go to your device's \My Documents\IMSMS\ folder - delete the data.dat file and restart IMSMS. It will load all default settings.

Try it and let me know if it fixes for you - the reason being is that the older data.dat file may be corrupted.

Thanks, I'll take a look at these issues and post up my findings.

DSO

You can help me out: AFTER CLEARING your data.dat file, go ahead and add YOUR OWN NAME to the friends list. Then send yourself a text. You should receive it without issue.

[ghufi]

tried your app, but sorry, after receiving incoming sms the app is throwing .net errors and thats it. the message itself is lost, which i think is very bad.
maybe you make some "fail-safe" into the app, that after receiving / intercepting the message, first of all is to save it somewhere in a log or something like this; after fully processing the message and successfully displaying it in your app you could delete the message in the log

this would help that we don't loose messages! btw: if you want a ppc tester on wm6 please send me pm!

[IMSMS]

tried your app, but sorry, after receiving incoming sms the app is throwing .net errors and thats it. the message itself is lost, which i think is very bad.
maybe you make some "fail-safe" into the app, that after receiving / intercepting the message, first of all is to save it somewhere in a log or something like this; after fully processing the message and successfully displaying it in your app you could delete the message in the log

this would help that we don't loose messages! btw: if you want a ppc tester on wm6 please send me pm!

Sorry about that - IMSMS is designed around the HTC S620 - I have limited resources for PPC - however, I am getting many feedback (bug reports) from other users as well.

Send me an email and I'll add you to the list of PPC WM6 testers! Thank you for your support - the newest build is 5150 - which has fixes that is related to some internal engine problems that cause unhandled load up exceptions.

Give 5150 a shot and let me know if you still get an exception when you receive incoming messages. The log is usually written before the exception is thrown - but I will investigate this issue further and send you a test sample for your PPC edition.

thanks again,
DSO

[wacky.banana]

The data saving should work - I will take a look again - but you can always redo your settings this way: go to your device's \My Documents\IMSMS\ folder - delete the data.dat file and restart IMSMS. It will load all default settings.

Try it and let me know if it fixes for you - the reason being is that the older data.dat file may be corrupted.

You can help me out: AFTER CLEARING your data.dat file, go ahead and add YOUR OWN NAME to the friends list. Then send yourself a text. You should receive it without issue.

Right,

Went testing again as follows:

Completely cleared out all known references to IMSMS on the PPC including logs and dat files, just as I did yesterday. I then reinstalled IMSMS PPC from scratch and selected my own telephone number as a friend. I was able to send myself an sms without problems.

Next I set all the preferences that would not work yesterday, saved and exited the programme, came back in and.....it worked!

I then selected all the friends/contacts I wanted to be shown within IMSMS, and exited the programme.

Next I sent myself a text from another phone, with the application not running in the background. This failed to auto initialise IMSMS and I got an error similar to yesterdays. I opened up IMSMS and the text message then came into both IMSMS as well as the standard SMS inbox.

So what does not seem to work so far, and may be connected to the threading issue you referred to before, is the option to auto start when a message arrives. Does not work if the app is not already running in the background.

BTW I like the way you have improved on the text input box. This is much better than the single line entry item from previous versions. However I still think that the idea I suggested here will be a real winner when you get round to implementing for PPC.

I'm afraid I don't like the new sound scheme you have now installed. The previous sound scheme was much better. Any chance of being able to get the original sounds back please?

Thanks.

BTW, also happy to be/continue to be a tester for you for the PPC platform. I run WM6 (see my sig for details).

WB

[IMSMS]

I need to post the damn tutorial fast...


Here's how auto start works.

When you first install IMSMS, auto start feature is disabled. Go to the MENU->Settings->preferences and check it (it's the last option on that preference menu page).

It will prompt you that you need to restart IMSMS. When you exit, go ahead and answer YES to SAVE settings. When you restart IMSMS AND SHUT IT DOWN, it will auto start IMSMS the next time new messages arrive (and IMSMS is shut down)

That's it. To disable, have IMSMS running already - go to MENU->SEttings->Preferences menu and then UNCHECK the AUTO START option (again, at the very bottom of the page). Exit IMSMS (and SAVE when prompted to again).

When you restart IMSMS, it will unregister itself to AUTO START.

HOpe this clears it up!

As for SOUNDS

You will be able to use your own MP3 files shortly. Vibration feature as recommended is in the works - however, I have to access the shell library and it doesn't seem to work for PPC's - only smartphones! I'll try something else.

I just need this new engine to work right then I can go ahead and push off the next builds that includes all the requested items :)

Note:
Some users claim the messages don't get captured by IMSMS and instead go straight to the outlook inbox. This is TRUE - just REBOOT/RESTART your phone. It's a strange issue when you update programs (IMSMS) and you don't restart, sometimes the registration hooks fail and IMSMS will not be able to register it's internal hooks correctly - this is not the fault of the software - but most likely a WM issue. So just RESTART it if something seems odd.

(like the settings issue you are having w.banana)

Let me know how things go - I am off until tomorrow.

PS - AUTO START is a feature to enable IMSMS to automatically start up when it's shut down and track your message(s). AUTO DISPLAY when messages arrive is a feature that will bring IMSMS to the foreground (if you're at your home screen) when the new messages arrive. You know how it gets hidden when your phone times out (no activity) - with this feature on, it will automatically show itself.

AUTO START obviously is working when you have IMSMS running when it was shut down when messages arrive. It shouldn't do anything else when IMSMS is already running - only functions when IMSMS is SHUT DOWN. Hence the feature name: AUTO START.


God Bless,
DSO

[ghufi]

this build is working on my phone.
first time i set the settings, saved them, exit the program without saving, the settings are gone :). after this i click yes on saving the settings while exit the program. this is working fine.

- sounds, you already know. :)
- received sms are also in the normal inbox, which is for backup etc. very nice

is there a way to put also the sent sms to the normal sent box?

another thing: for sending the sms, you have to click to action and then send. is there a way to make this by just one click? i think primary use of the software is to send the sms.

[wacky.banana]

IMSMS,

Re auto start, I did all the things in post 85 before I posted. The concept is pretty straightforward and lots of us are now quite familiar with this tool so the need to rush out the tutorial isn't as critical as when you first launched it.

As I reported, it did not work although I am still testing it out. I will post up the exact error message next time I'm on here.

New problem: the time stamp given to text messages coming in is an hour out, ie an hour behind real time. Where does the tool get its time stamp information from? Btw, this is after several complete closedowns of IMSMS and after at least one device reboot.

Cheers

WB

[tcassada]

I have turned off and turned back on numerous times and inbound SMS messages still do not get captured by IMSMS. They go to the standard Windows Mobile SMS inbox. Any thoughts?

[IMSMS]

IMSMS,

Re auto start, I did all the things in post 85 before I posted. The concept is pretty straightforward and lots of us are now quite familiar with this tool so the need to rush out the tutorial isn't as critical as when you first launched it.

As I reported, it did not work although I am still testing it out. I will post up the exact error message next time I'm on here.

New problem: the time stamp given to text messages coming in is an hour out, ie an hour behind real time. Where does the tool get its time stamp information from? Btw, this is after several complete closedowns of IMSMS and after at least one device reboot.

Cheers

WB

Hi WB,

First, I want to be sure you are running 5150 build.

As for the time stamp, it is the exact time stamp from your SMS Service center but converted to local time. This is precise and not IMSMS' own algorithm. It's based on your phone locale setting and the service centers location.

Please give me the error message when it doesn't function (the AUTO START feature). IMSMS will register a hook with your registry to auto start itself when enabled. IT only happens when you set the feature ON, then EXIT, THEN RESTART IMSMS. After you restart, it registers itself. Then all you have to do is shutdown (if you want to exit IMSMS) and the auto start will happen. If you don't shut down, obviously you don't need auto start.

Please let me know any other problems you encounter - thanks a bunch!
God Bless,
DSO

[IMSMS]

this build is working on my phone.
first time i set the settings, saved them, exit the program without saving, the settings are gone . after this i click yes on saving the settings while exit the program. this is working fine.

- sounds, you already know.
- received sms are also in the normal inbox, which is for backup etc. very nice

is there a way to put also the sent sms to the normal sent box?

another thing: for sending the sms, you have to click to action and then send. is there a way to make this by just one click? i think primary use of the software is to send the sms.

Hi,

I will recheck the settings - saving - although it has been tested pretty thoroughly since build 2551 pre-1.0.

Placing SMS sent mail to the outlook sent mail inbox is superfluous. This program is meant to be SMS Management as well. I did not design it to pass thru to other apps - but put a function you already tested for others who would like that option. But of course depending on the # of requests on this, I can make it another add on feature.

Sending mail on the PPC can be three ways:

1) The middle button on your navigation directional keypad. After typing your message on the text input box, ensure focus is still on that box. Hit the middle navigation button

2) The enter key on your keyboard will also send. Be sure focus is set on the text box.

3) The ACTION MENU -> Send Message menu item. This is the last resort.

Again, I will need you to help me test the functionality on the ppc along with others because I do not have the hardware at this time. I am looking for a new phone (the p4550 htc) in taiwan and hopefully will get one soon enough to replace my HTC S620 - shoot, "accompany" this wonderful HTCS620 ;)

I'm working on a new build - that includes some more optimisations and custom sounds.

I'll be posting within a week or so - testers get them first this time around.

Thank you for your help! Those that are on my email list will get their name as credit when 1.0 is release :) I can't express enough gratitude :)

Cheers,
DSO

[IMSMS]

I have turned off and turned back on numerous times and inbound SMS messages still do not get captured by IMSMS. They go to the standard Windows Mobile SMS inbox. Any thoughts?

What model phone and which build are you running (go to the ACTION -> HELP -> About menu item to find build number.)

Unless your phone is running something other than WM5/6, it should work fine - IMSMS will register an internal hook to receive all incoming sms messages. I've seen this problem happen even on my phone but that was thru many many hacks and copy-overs and updates without restarting my phone. I finally had to restart it (after 3 weeks uptime) and it works as planned.

Give me a bit more information so i can try to help you,
Thanks,
DSO

[tcassada]

What model phone and which build are you running (go to the ACTION -> HELP -> About menu item to find build number.)

Unless your phone is running something other than WM5/6, it should work fine - IMSMS will register an internal hook to receive all incoming sms messages. I've seen this problem happen even on my phone but that was thru many many hacks and copy-overs and updates without restarting my phone. I finally had to restart it (after 3 weeks uptime) and it works as planned.

Give me a bit more information so i can try to help you,
Thanks,
DSO

I am running your latest build V1.0 beta build 5150 (just downloaded today) on a WM6 TMo Dash.

[IMSMS]

I am running your latest build V1.0 beta build 5150 (just downloaded today) on a WM6 TMo Dash.

It shouldn't go to your outlook inbox - if it does, something is wrong with your Dash - either uninstall IMSMS (manually), restart your dash after uninstalling IMSMS, then after your dash restarts, reinstall again.

IMSMS registers the hooks and if it goes to your inbox when you didn't specify the option in IMSMS - that's something wrong with the OS. Give it a shot...

---DSO

[IMSMS]

WB-

Thank you for bringing up the subject of auto start -

There is an incorrect event handled in IMSMS that may cause your auto start sometimes to fail to save (fail to save your option being CHECKED ON). I have fixed that in 5200.

Build 5200 is due for tomorrow/evening -
** It will include a big slip on my end - a fatal crash when no friends are loaded in the friends list and you attempt to send (hit send).

** Custom sounds is in this release

** Dynamic overlay message counters (being tested) - will draw some counters for you on the fly while you compose your text message (counts # of characters etc.) - this may make it into .5200 if I can get it to work without bugs and no performance hit.


Thanks!

--DSO

[tcassada]

It shouldn't go to your outlook inbox - if it does, something is wrong with your Dash - either uninstall IMSMS (manually), restart your dash after uninstalling IMSMS, then after your dash restarts, reinstall again.

IMSMS registers the hooks and if it goes to your inbox when you didn't specify the option in IMSMS - that's something wrong with the OS. Give it a shot...

---DSO

Still a no go on this. Would love to use this app, but with no messages showing up in IMSMS it us useless. Have completely uninstalled, rebooted, reinstalled, rebooted again, and still doesn't work. Cant really see how there could be anything wrong with this OS, since the only thing I have done us unlock it and install your app.

[wacky.banana]

IMSMS,

Re your post #94, have to say I'm glad you have identified the problem re auto start. I was just beginning to doubt my own sanity on this (phew). :)

Really looking forward to build 5200. I will be back tomorrow evening.

One request: please do not throw away the SMS Notify Other Applications option. I use this to get a copy of the incoming message placed into my system inbox as a standard text. Strange as it may sound, for most instances I need a discrete text message as well as the message dropping into IMSMS. In fact this is one of my default settings.

Btw, sending you my email addy so you can slot me onto your testing programme.

Do keep up the good work.

Cheers

WB

PS Re your question on which version IMSMS I'm using, that happens to be the latest build for PPC (5150).

I use a Tytn (hermes), not a Smartphone.

Cheers

PPS - Suggestion for your next build: Ability to change the font size used within IMSMS.

[IMSMS]

WB and others:

Build 5200 is out now (Custom sounds):
(do not use sounds that are more than 5 seconds - otherwise, you will be playing it for a long time!)

It's a critical fix - so for those who have not installed IMSMS, use this build version. For those that already have pre 5200 builds installed, reinstall with this version. See home site for release notes!


http://dsosoftware07.googlepages.com/imsms-instantmessagingsms

[wacky.banana]

IMSMS,

Thanks for this. Testing at the moment. With autostart ticked and the application rebooted then closed again, 1st text message in gave the following error:

"Unexpected error has occurred in IMSMS.EXE
IMSMS.exe NullReferenceException at 0.u() at System.Reflection.RuntimeMethodInfo.InternalInvoke () at System.Reflection.RuntimeMethodInfo.InternalInvoke () at...repeats itself.

I will carry on testing and update this post.

FYI, the old IMSMS was completely deinstalled, all previous logs deleted, etc, befoe installing 5200.

WB

Update - Deinstalled 5200 ppc completely, soft reset, manually cleared any logs, etc, reinstalled 5200, soft reset again, then went to preferences.

Selected the following preferences: show emoticons, auto diaplay when message arrives, sound notification alert, sms notify other app, auto start on message received.

Saved settings killed the app, went back in, nothing saved. Reselcted the same, this time exited the app which forces you to save, killed the app, soft reset, went back in, no selected options ticked.

Not sure what the problem is but you are no further forward on this one.

Cheers

WB

[IMSMS]

IMSMS,

Thanks for this. Testing at the moment. With autostart ticked and the application rebooted then closed again, 1st text message in gave the following error:

"Unexpected error has occurred in IMSMS.EXE
IMSMS.exe NullReferenceException at 0.u() at System.Reflection.RuntimeMethodInfo.InternalInvoke () at System.Reflection.RuntimeMethodInfo.InternalInvoke () at...repeats itself.

I will carry on testing and update this post.

FYI, the old IMSMS was completely deinstalled, all previous logs deleted, etc, befoe installing 5200.

WB

Hi WB -

You should never have to delete any log files - they wont' affect the IMSMS engine at all with new builds being updated all the time - let me run a test sample in the ppc emulator.

Be right back...

[IMSMS]

WB -

I am updating the build to 5201 - there's an internal misprint - I'm correcting now and will repost again -

Very sorry about that -

---DSO

Edit: I just also realised I uploaded the incorrect binary lol - talk about poor file management skills! I'm reuploading again - BUT THIS TIME, the correct binary (that contains the fixes)...<charlie brown voice: good grief!>

[wacky.banana]

OK. Let me know when its uploaded. Meanwhile I will delete 5200 off.

Cheers

WB

[IMSMS]

What a goof -up -

Edited: 10/19/07:
Build 5202 - is the real deal - 5200 contained the wrong assemblies. Discard 5200 and use 5201.

It's been posted on the home site -

Let me know if you still can't get autostart to work for ya.

Thanks again - thanks for bringing this to my attention too WB!

Cheers,
DSO

[wacky.banana]

@IMSMS

Morning,

Just loaded up version 5202 off your site. Nothing has changed. The tool will NOT save preferences and the position is exactly as it was in my post above.

What now?

Thanks

WB

[IMSMS]

@IMSMS

Morning,

Just loaded up version 5202 off your site. Nothing has changed. The tool will NOT save preferences and the position is exactly as it was in my post above.

What now?

Thanks

WB

HI WB-

Seems like this is a PPC bug only - it's been caught - hopefully, this is specifically what you are talking about:

Build 5203:
* PPC fix only - custom sound preferences not saved
- When you first to go settings menu - > preferences and choose custom sounds then hit DONE soft key, IMSMS will save your custom sounds. THe next time you restart IMSMS, and you go back to the settings -> preferences menu your custom sounds settings are gone.


As for the exception, I'm tracing thru the ppc edition and I did not encounter it yet. You don't have to delete your logs ever - but you can delete your settings file (data.dat in your \My Documents\IMSMS folder).

Back in previous builds, there was an uncaught bug - if the saved friends list when starting IMSMS was loaded and any of the entries did not match your phone book, the exception would result and was not handled properly - but it should be fixed already since 5203. I will re-trace again and see if this is happening for ppc's.

Thanks again for your help -

DSO

[IMSMS]

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[IMSMS]

FOr PPC users: There's a new version out:

Build 5300 allows the text entry input box to be expanded to whatever size of your preference! For those who always wanted a larger size input text area - this version gives you that. Be sure to use your stylus to expand the splitter control bar - you will see it in your standard control color (whatever you current theme color is, the splitter will appear in that color). Drag it up/down and you will expand the text area.

Thank you,
DSO

[berndhufmann]

HI @IMSMS, with 5.2 smartphone edition my incoming sms´s are not directly shown. I must activate IMSMS manually via the icon to get the actual sms shown. Why?
a.) auto display, sms notify, auto start are activ
Thanks!

[IMSMS]

HI @IMSMS, with 5.2 smartphone edition my incoming sms´s are not directly shown. I must activate IMSMS manually via the icon to get the actual sms shown. Why?
a.) auto display, sms notify, auto start are activ
Thanks!

The full manual is not online yet - read the section on AUTO START feature.

* AUTO DISPLAY - has nothing to do with IMSMS starting up automatically.
* SMS notify other applications has nothing to do with IMSMS starting up automatically.

* AUTO START feature is what you want to enable. Follow the instructions on the home site and it will work 100%.

Email me directly rather than posting here for help please! Thank you!
---DSO

[wacky.banana]

IMSMS,

Just tested ver PPC 5301 off your site; all previously reported problems still exist. I have emailed you with the details.

I like the scroll bar option for changing the size of the input screen; very nice.

Let me know where we go next with this please.

Thanks

WB

[IMSMS]

IMSMS,

Just tested ver PPC 5301 off your site; all previously reported problems still exist. I have emailed you with the details.

I like the scroll bar option for changing the size of the input screen; very nice.

Let me know where we go next with this please.

Thanks

WB

WB - and others:

New Update Builds PPC/Smartphone (ppc-5360, smartphone-5260): 10/20/2007 1.30PM PST/USA:
==================================
* Fixed save settings issue - when you have NO FRIENDS in the friends list box and you attempt to save settings, the settings set will be ignored.
* Send message threading optimizations (this is semi-transparent - meaning you may or may not notice when sending messages)
* small improvements to text selection (affects preset text messages)
* added Send last text message option (allows you to paste previous sent text into text input box - so you don't have to retype previous message.


Here's what was happening:

Scenario 1: When you don't have a data.dat (IMSMS settings file) -
When you start up IMSMS, the defaults settings (options and preferences) will be loaded. When you change one or more of the options and/or preferences and you attempt to save (either by selecting the SAVE SETTINGS manually from the menu OR you let IMSMS auto save when exiting), your settings WILL SAVE. HOWEVER -

THIS WAS DEPENDANT ON THE FRIENDS LIST. If the friends list was empty, the settings would be ignored. This is a BUG. Credit goes to WB!

Scenario 2: If you have a settings file (data.dat) BUT your friends list was empty (Action menu -> Manage Friends List -> Clear friends list was selected), the settings will be IGNORED. This again was a bug that is now fixed.

Thank you WB for again looking deep into this!

---DSO

[wacky.banana]

Excellent news. I will download the latest version presently, test, and report back.

WB

[IMSMS]

YOu can download the newest build: 5370 for PPC, 5270 for smartphones:

Improvements in these builds are internal engine threading optimizations - this will impact the user interface (when sending messages) significantly - with these new builds, users can now experience no "lag" when sending messages - however, anti-flooding (part of the engine) is still enabled - so you can't send the same message more than once at a time (you can send the same message XX amount of time you want - just that you can't send it more than once (to prevent flooding).

These improvements will impact your IMSMS usage positively and I would recommend using this new version. I am still testing these new enhancements out - so let me know if you experience any threading related issues - you will see an error message if something goes awry - the latest build is very robust.

God Bless,
DSO

[tnemec]

May I ask for the reason why the width of the main text input box is less then the screen? I could imagine that moving the character count to the upper right corner and extending the input box would make sense, or?

Another experiance: lots of contacts slows friends list management extremely down - maybe a direct read of the contacts would be better...

Cheers,
Thomas

[wacky.banana]

IMSMS,

Now testing 5370. Options selecting and save preferences now seems to work. Have not yet tested the custom sounds options.

The option to change the storage path isn't working. Also got what I think is a threading issue error. Have emailed you with the details.

I am still testing the rest of the app out. Will report back in due course.

WB

[Fightthegoodfight]

Well im back and testing new verison, i can send messages but not recieve them. Let me go into more detail.

I use S2U2 and when i get a message the phone will light up but IMSMS will not start up (when auto start is on) or notify (when i leave IMSMS up and have display option on).

I open the program and it wont show the message from the person i sent it from (i used my roomates phone to send messages to myself).

Now when i send a message it works prefectly.

Thanks for your time!

[IMSMS]

Well im back and testing new verison, i can send messages but not recieve them. Let me go into more detail.

I use S2U2 and when i get a message the phone will light up but IMSMS will not start up (when auto start is on) or notify (when i leave IMSMS up and have display option on).

I open the program and it wont show the message from the person i sent it from (i used my roomates phone to send messages to myself).

Now when i send a message it works prefectly.

Thanks for your time!


HI,

Download the 5371 for your PPC if you haven't already. WB and others have reported an issue with the AUTO START feature as well.


Here are some other notes:
What's different since 5360 is that the send message is now threaded. I expected errors to show up in the debug process - This is what happens:

It has everything to do with the outlook library reference. Technically speaking, when the message gets sent - (the library called to send it), it breaks the incoming message hooks already registered. THis is indeed a strange issue - and has alot to do with threading the process - I am suspecting this behavior to cause the same issues with motorola Q MOL 2/3 equipped phones - seems like I have gotten many emails regarding issues with the Moto Q.

It depends on how the thread process is created - I have debugged it and found a better solution - which on the smartphone should work as intended - on the ppc, I am awaiting more feedback (including yours here).

Non-technically speaking - this is what you should expect if you have problems: When you first load up IMSMS, and you try to send a message out, the incoming hooks break. You won't get any incoming messages - except when you EXIT IMSMS - they will all come and drop into your outlook inbox. BUT when you FIRST RECEIVE a message (didn't send anything out when you start out IMSMS), everything will work. This behaviour is due to threading issues with the outlook library when sending.

I will address this issue soon enough - it's part design of the engine and the strange phenomenon is really strange indeed. I have no control of how the outlook library send process - but I contact the .net team and ask them about this.

Thank you for your time!
---DSO

[IMSMS]

IMSMS,

Now testing 5370. Options selecting and save preferences now seems to work. Have not yet tested the custom sounds options.

The option to change the storage path isn't working. Also got what I think is a threading issue error. Have emailed you with the details.

I am still testing the rest of the app out. Will report back in due course.

WB

WB -


Data paths do save - but it's a bit tricky to note it visually - here's how it works:

Go to SETTINGS -> Preferences -> Action Soft key -> "Change Log Storage Path".

A directory browser will open up. SELECT the directory by choosing the directory of choice. You must double tap (if on PPC) the directory you want, it will show up at the above text box. When you see the directory, you can then go to the ACTION -> SELECT.

YOU MUST TAP THE DIRECTORY - a mere HIGHLIGHTing will not select that directory. You must traverse INTO the directory (you will know you have it selected when it shows up on the top text input field). Then choose action soft key, select.

[IMSMS]

May I ask for the reason why the width of the main text input box is less then the screen? I could imagine that moving the character count to the upper right corner and extending the input box would make sense, or?

Another experiance: lots of contacts slows friends list management extremely down - maybe a direct read of the contacts would be better...

Cheers,
Thomas

IMSMS was never intended for the PPC - the PPC edition will get a major overhaul utilizing hardware and features not found on the smartphone editions - it is primarly built to accomodate PPC users at the present time because the smartphone release isn't designed for the PPC interface.

Here's what to expect from the PPC overhaul-

Notification ballons, UI redesign, optimized custom features that seperates it from the smartphone edition.

It is expected in Beta 2/3 (which is right around the corner ~1month).

Multi-language support is in testing - but I don't know if I can get it out in time for a 1.0 release. Primary language support is English.

Thanks!
---DSO

[wacky.banana]

Imsms,

Yhm

Wb

[Fightthegoodfight]

IMSMS was never intended for the PPC - the PPC edition will get a major overhaul utilizing hardware and features not found on the smartphone editions - it is primarly built to accomodate PPC users at the present time because the smartphone release isn't designed for the PPC interface.

Here's what to expect from the PPC overhaul-

Notification ballons, UI redesign, optimized custom features that seperates it from the smartphone edition.

It is expected in Beta 2/3 (which is right around the corner ~1month).

Multi-language support is in testing - but I don't know if I can get it out in time for a 1.0 release. Primary language support is English.

Thanks!
---DSO


Ooo I just can't wait!

[wacky.banana]

Guys,

Build 5385 for the PPC seems to have resolved a lot of the problems I was reporting back to the OP, IMSMS (DSO).

There is still some way to go yet (I'm still testing this release); however if you are having problems then I suggest you upgrade to that build for PPC.

Thanks to DSO for all the hard work he has been putting into this, and at least having the grace to listen when I have insisted that something he thought was working was in fact not doing so. Quite looking forward to the "B" build and its various optimisations, when its ready.

This is looking pretty good. Congratulations to DSO.

Cheers

WB

PS: It would be appreciated if any of you with PPC's and some spare time could test this app and give feedback to DSO. He does not have the resources to test on the PPC plaform so any help would be gratefully received.

Thanks

WB

[eatonjb]

anyone have any pictures of IMSMS on a Tilt? a few weeks ago I tried it , it would not work.

[to0]

I get a 404 error anytime that I try to download either of the CABs. Can this be fixed?

Thank you.

[Shep]

I get a 404 error anytime that I try to download either of the CABs. Can this be fixed?

Thank you.
Same here - but I think he is updating and uploading right now..

Shep

[IMSMS]

HI All-

I have just released Build 5400 - it is pre-beta 2 release and this is a milestone release. It includes a bunch of items (see home site for release notes).

If you are still having some annoying issues, please email me directly and I will try to help you the best I can. Beta 2 for PPC will include an overhaul - it be different than that of the smartphone edition. Smartphone will be final 1.0 when tests confirm everything is working to specific parameters.

This new 5400 includes the emoticons directly from menu selection - no need to type it out - I did not put this in until now because it was still being debated. Do note if you have emoticons turned on, for the HTC S620 models, the chat log display (aka web browser/pocket IE) has some issues trying to load them - the issue is that it may slow your viewing down (due to loading of emoticon graphics). This is something that happens on smartphone PocketIE - the way the graphics are loaded. Simply archive your logs and clear them (starting fresh) will take care of some potential "lag".

Please let me know if you have any issues - I'm here to assist. Thank you and GOD BLESS all of you!

---DSO

[deenice]

Hey IMSMS, this is an awesome program. Kudos to you and your hard work. I was wondering (haven't tested this 'cause I just installed) if IMSMS app has the ability to resend/send-when-have-signal messages if your phone's signal is lost, something along the lines of a true messaging Outbox?

I was originally using the Palm threaded app which has this feature (unfortunate that WM5/6 doesn't have this out-of-the-box, Nokia does!!!). But since it was not made for other PPCs, the screen real estate suffers when using the virt keyboard. I, at times, am on the subway (NYC) where I lose/don't have signal but want to send some text msg to family and friends.

Again, keep up the awesome work and thanks for a cool product!

[IMSMS]

Hey IMSMS, this is an awesome program. Kudos to you and your hard work. I was wondering (haven't tested this 'cause I just installed) if IMSMS app has the ability to resend/send-when-have-signal messages if your phone's signal is lost, something along the lines of a true messaging Outbox?

I was originally using the Palm threaded app which has this feature (unfortunate that WM5/6 doesn't have this out-of-the-box, Nokia does!!!). But since it was not made for other PPCs, the screen real estate suffers when using the virt keyboard. I, at times, am on the subway (NYC) where I lose/don't have signal but want to send some text msg to family and friends.

Again, keep up the awesome work and thanks for a cool product!

Let me share some technical info with all of your in this regard:

IMSMS engine is unique - it has the ability to send out any outgoing mail that has accumulated - the feature is designed into IMSMS' core engine - there can be some logic functionality written in to activate this - it is very simple to do because IMSMS' core engine function's this way - like a true outbox - any outgoing mail gets stacked into the outbox and will send right away if activated - which it is by default - which means any mail that is sent gets sent right away.

The UI will NOT send however if there is a network problem - or any problem preventing the message from being sent. So by default, the UI turns off the "outbox" feature inside IMSMS' core engine - it never gets a chance to mail out accumulated mail in the outbox because the UI never sends it to the engine for processing.

I can see why you would want this feature - but also, I can see that it will create many logic problems as well - I will have to accomodate features that will deal with the outgoing box - which by design, IMSMS' engine already has built in. The reason these features are off is because it takes lots of time to
ensure everything works out in reality. In theory and design spec, it is written to do just that - but it's all in theory -

I need the core functionality of IMSMS to work to my spec parameters so I can push out more features later - for now, I really need everyone to use it enough to ensure it actually works based on my spec parameters. AFter that, I can then focus on other feature enhancements because it was already designed in the core engine since the beginning :)

I hope this clears things up for those who are wondering. Thank you for your patience!

---DSO

[IMSMS]

Hi,

I know in BUILD 5400, there is a new process/functionality - it is the caching of the system contacts book. There are a few reasons for this.

By default, when you compose an SMS message in Windows Mobile (smartphone), you would have to select a contact from your systems contact book - now that is ONE AT A TIME - there is no MULTIPLE SELECTION available.

This is fine and dandy for normal SMS. In IMSMS, you have a contacts management functionality that is different from the system's contact book UI. It is a custom UI that loads up the contacts and allows you to manually add/remove contacts to your friends list. The dilemma for me is:

a) I need to be able to manage the contacts efficiently. Everytime you add/remove a contact via the MANAGE FRIENDS menu, you get the loading of the custom contacts page UI that loads all the system contacts so you can choose multiple selected contacts to add to the friends list.

Before 5400 build was released, I have written out a very slick process - that allows you to load up the contacts quickly - basically zero load times. However it will load dynamically when you scroll thru the list. I am working on another process that will allow you to jump to specific contacts based on letter of name (just like the system contact book - press J to jump to (J)ason, (J)ack, etc.). This process did not get finished in time for 5400.

b) I created a caching page - when you first startup IMSMS - it will multi-thread cache your system contacts - it uses more memory but allows you to view your entire contacts page (allowing you to add/remove) on the fly - without slowdowns. The only caveat is that on some smartphones with REALLY LARGE contacts, 1000+, it can take up to a few minutes (this is multi-threaded though).

I know that option A is the best - I need to refine it more. However, with option B in place in build 5400, I think I will put in a temporary solution - to allow you to select "NO CACHING OF SYSTEM CONTACTS" when IMSMS start's up. This will help some of you who have large contacts.

Now note this: You never need to add ANY CONTACTS to your friends list. When you receive an incoming message and for example that sender is already in your system contact book, it will automatically be added to the friends list with their name. If it's a stranger (not listed in your system contact book), it will still get added but without a name. Everything is tracked - logs will be assigned respectively to each sender.

Even if you don't save your friends list, the chat logs don't get erased unless you manually delete them. So the next time you start up IMSMS without any friends and the same sender sends you a message, their chat logs will reappear. Now the only thing is if you would like to converse with someone in your contacts list, you simply can add them (VIA THE QUICK ADD FRIEND) menu under the MANAGE menu. This will allow you to use the system contact book to add each contact to the friends list - ONE BY ONE - the same way the system SMS message composer does. This way, you can bypass the Manage Friends menu option. However, you can imagine if you wanted to add 10 friends at once, it can get tedious with the "QUICK ADD FRIEND" menu option - so using the custom contact (MANAGE FRIENDS) is still the best option.

I will most likely implement option A above and I know for sure all of you will appreciate the extra effort - I just wanted to be a bit long winded to let you all know that I do in fact hear your suggestions and I actually incorporate all of your feedback into the design aspect of IMSMS. I appreciate all of your support - and like always - email me if you have any questions please!

Sincerely,
DSO

[wacky.banana]

IMSMS,

Its a vote for option A; its the sensible choice.

WB

[IMSMS]

Build 5500

Now released - "caching" is now removed. There is a brand new contacts management for those that have contacts in the 1000+. You will like it - at least you get almost no delays now when starting up (when loading saved friends).

This release is a solid build - install for those who haven't - if you have previous builds, I strongly recommend you install this update. (see home site for release notes)

This will be the many last updates I will push out - I will collect the feedback from testers and then compile a final release build. It was fun making this - now it's time to focus on PPC builds and v2 redesign.

Please email me or private message me if you have any questions. Thanks again for all your support - it's been a fun development cycle.

:)

God Bless,
DSO

[pdafre4k]

The page you have requested could not be found. (404)

cannot download the smartphone program and the ppc program

[EVRiNOM]

The page you have requested could not be found. (404)
cannot download the smartphone program and the ppc program
Same for me...

[IMSMS]

Sorry for the confusion - when you see "Updating..." next to the build #, that means it's not available. The .cab files will also be offline until you see a directly link available again (that's up top on the main home site).

It's back online, I had to do a last minute update on somethings internally - 5501 is the latest.

Thanks for your patience.

[EVRiNOM]

Thanx a lot!

P.S. No Cyrillic support? :'(

[sunkey]

can i know when the Chinese displaying can be supported? i am waiting for that day.

[jasoraso]

I'm trying to use the program on a Verizon Q9m (with wm6). I'm not sure if my Q9 suffers from the same problems with the dreaded MOL2/mol3 update. Messages sent to my phone/IMSMS only seem to get the first line. A message replied from GOOGLE sms only displays the first line. I am able to use the IMSMS program to send messages, with some problems. Messages sent to Google are not received properly (I get a help message in reply to my query to Google SMS). Messages sent from IMSMS to a MSN Messenger user disply properly. Messages sent using the "Create Normal SMS Message" option are sent fine (test sending a message to Google SMS).

I'm sending 2 logs, one with messages to Google sms; you can see the reply at 1:15 in response to a message sent using "Create Normal SMS Message".

I'm also sending a log from communicated with a MSN Messenger user. Those messages were received properly on the other end.

Also, is the option "SMS Notify Other Applications" supposed to pass the message onto the default SMS program? It is not doing so if that is the case.

Jason

[IMSMS]

I'm trying to use the program on a Verizon Q9m (with wm6). I'm not sure if my Q9 suffers from the same problems with the dreaded MOL2/mol3 update. Messages sent to my phone/IMSMS only seem to get the first line. A message replied from GOOGLE sms only displays the first line. I am able to use the IMSMS program to send messages, with some problems. Messages sent to Google are not received properly (I get a help message in reply to my query to Google SMS). Messages sent from IMSMS to a MSN Messenger user disply properly. Messages sent using the "Create Normal SMS Message" option are sent fine (test sending a message to Google SMS).

I'm sending 2 logs, one with messages to Google sms; you can see the reply at 1:15 in response to a message sent using "Create Normal SMS Message".

I'm also sending a log from communicated with a MSN Messenger user. Those messages were received properly on the other end.

Also, is the option "SMS Notify Other Applications" supposed to pass the message onto the default SMS program? It is not doing so if that is the case.

Jason

I'll take a look the logs - Moto phones have issues - I have not received word back from Motorola regarding these "issues".

SMS NOTIFY OTHER APPS works - you must restart IMSMS for this to take effect.

Email me if you have any questions.

Latest build is 5505 - beta 2 for smartphone edition.

Thanks again,
DSO

[IMSMS]

can i know when the Chinese displaying can be supported? i am waiting for that day.

If you want to be a tester for Chinese edition, let me know - I have been testing with Chinese emulator for some time now - I hope I can squeeze into 1.0 release - but I'm not sure yet - because I need to work out the engine details to ensure the proper codepage encoding is working right.

Hang in there :)

---DSO

[IMSMS]

IMSMS Video Tutorials (http://pages.google.com/edit/DSOSoftware07/imsmshelptutorial) now available - see home site for details.


Thanks again,
DSO

[EVRiNOM]

And what about the cyrillic encoding?..

[IMSMS]

And what about the cyrillic encoding?..

It's very rough right now - I'm getting schooled designing to fit the Chinese encoding...multi-language is the most difficult part right now :(

[IMSMS]

Hi,

This is almost final 1.0 build (for smartphones):

BUILD 5510

Fixes the "enable msgs Instant update" feature. It works now properly.

Also, please see the online video guides - they are updated!

http://pages.google.com/edit/DSOSoftware07/imsmshelptutorial

Thanks again!
---DSO

[wacky.banana]

IMSMS,

What's happened to the change log on your site that lets us know what's changed/whats been fixed please?

Thanks

WB

[IMSMS]

Hi,

I am very happy to announce IMSMS is now MULT-LANGUAGE SUPPORTED!! Yes, that means all the Chinese language devices can now send and receive in Chinese, the Japanese language devices can send/read with IMSMS - even Russian, Italian, etc.

However, IMSMS is NOT localized with menus adapting to your regional language. So you will have to view the tutorials to get an understanding of the features - although it's easy to understand (I hope) ;)

Custom preset text messages do however support your language setting - and everything else works with your language defaults.

In simple terms, IMSMS can now read and write in your specific language. It does not mean that an ENGLISH/US only language phone can read CHINESE. Your phone MUST support the default code page (language) in order to do so. For those who want to use this version (I'm assuming everyone who is NON-USA or even if you are in the US), you will enjoy this version for sure!

Please go to the IMSMS home site for download links. Both .zip and .cab files are ready to for download. Please report any bugs to me via email or private message. I want to thank all of you who have waited for multi-language support for being so patient!

Thanks again for all of your support,
DSO

[berndhufmann]

Hi, if IMSMS is installed, an incoming sms is stored at the HTC Inbox and in your program. No matter, but to clear the sms icon at the bar i must de-activate the income sms via HTC. Is there a possibility to enable icon/sms clearing via your tool? That happens also too a "Send Note notification" sms. Thanks!

[IMSMS]

Hi, if IMSMS is installed, an incoming sms is stored at the HTC Inbox and in your program. No matter, but to clear the sms icon at the bar i must de-activate the income sms via HTC. Is there a possibility to enable icon/sms clearing via your tool? That happens also too a "Send Note notification" sms. Thanks!

When IMSMS is run without any other 3rd party message intercepting application running, IMSMS will swallow the message by deafult. Your default outlook inbox will NOT receive the message IMSMS receives UNLESS you have the "SMS Notify Other Application" turned on. When turned on, IMSMS will pass the message to any other intercepting application - if no 3rd party application besides IMSMS is running, your default outlook inbox will intercept the message IMSMS passed to it.

This is a a standard notification icon is from your outlook inbox when it receives the message IMSMS passed to it- IMSMS cannot dispose of the icon since the default outlook inbox receives the sms message - IMSMS will pass the message to all the applications which can receive incoming messages - but after the message is passed, the programs that intercept the messages will have to manage the notification icons - IMSMS has no control over that (for obvious reason).

Either disable IMSMS' "SMS Notify Other Application" feature or just deal with the outlook inbox notification icon. IMSMS is an sms management system as well - passing the message along to other applications is meant as "courtesy option."

Thanks,
DSO

[IMSMS]

IMSMS,

What's happened to the change log on your site that lets us know what's changed/whats been fixed please?

Thanks

WB

All release notes are located with the .ZIP file's comments. When you open the .zip file, you will see the comments (with winzip/winrar).

The release notes are also posted near the bottom of the home site page as well.

---DSO

[burrzoo]

@IMSMS-->
This is brilliant! I really appreciate all of the work you have done!! Some of the "little" touches like allowing to send the message after clicking the enter key. So handy! So many nice features like this. Very impressive. Now I can use your application and still be able to use the Phone MMS feature on my TyTN II. I could not send an MMS whatsoever with the Palm Threaded SMS application (but did use it for awhile and appreciate the work that went into it too.)

Maybe I missed this in the tutorial but can the Font Size be changed, made larger?

Thanks again!!!:D

[EVRiNOM]

Thank you!

[deenice]

Let me share some technical info with all of your in this regard:

IMSMS engine is unique - it has the ability to send out any outgoing mail that has accumulated - the feature is designed into IMSMS' core engine - there can be some logic functionality written in to activate this - it is very simple to do because IMSMS' core engine function's this way - like a true outbox - any outgoing mail gets stacked into the outbox and will send right away if activated - which it is by default - which means any mail that is sent gets sent right away.

The UI will NOT send however if there is a network problem - or any problem preventing the message from being sent. So by default, the UI turns off the "outbox" feature inside IMSMS' core engine - it never gets a chance to mail out accumulated mail in the outbox because the UI never sends it to the engine for processing.

I can see why you would want this feature - but also, I can see that it will create many logic problems as well - I will have to accomodate features that will deal with the outgoing box - which by design, IMSMS' engine already has built in. The reason these features are off is because it takes lots of time to
ensure everything works out in reality. In theory and design spec, it is written to do just that - but it's all in theory -

I need the core functionality of IMSMS to work to my spec parameters so I can push out more features later - for now, I really need everyone to use it enough to ensure it actually works based on my spec parameters. AFter that, I can then focus on other feature enhancements because it was already designed in the core engine since the beginning :)

I hope this clears things up for those who are wondering. Thank you for your patience!

---DSO

Thanks for clarification. I look forward to all the neat forthcoming features!

[IMSMS]

Hi All-

I'm releasing version 1.0!

Thanks to everyone who has tested IMSMS - it's now officially released!

I suggest everyone to download this version if they haven't already. Here are the list of changes for the 1.0 release:

October 31, 2007 - 10/31/2007:

IMSMS Build Version 1.0.100:
========================
* Initial Release

Release Notes:
============
* Optimized Options menu - color options should load slightly faster
* IMSMS Engine Error output enabled - the core engine is now enabled to write messages to a log file (see your program files/IMSMS directory)
* Fixed IMSMS exit routines - now will properly dispose of resources
* Error handling added for all XML functions
* Fixed Sound asynchronous playback issues - will now play one sound at a time
* Fixed unicode double encoding - some users who send out mutlibyte characters will see a ? question mark - this issue is now fixed
* Fixed AUTO START - when enabled, IMSMS will auto start itself upon receive of new incoming message(s). It will also display an alert for the new message properly.
* Fixed internal "QUICK ADD" unicode encoding issue
* When setting chat log storage path, be sure to RESTART IMSMS so that the chat logs path will register properly.
* History file added - now ALL messages will be capture in RAW format into a text file. You can view this by selecting the MENU->Chat Logs->History Log
* Added UI background color option
* Added chat log display background color option
* Added option to confirm SAVE upon exit of IMSMS
* Disabled Dynamic Group Send feature (until future update)
* Disabled internal SMS counters (until future update)
* Optimized memory usage (10-15% less memory usage)

AUTO START FEATURE explained:
=============================
AUTO START in IMSMS allows any new incoming text message to auto start IMSMS - even when IMSMS is NOT RUNNING. To allow this feature, you must enable it in the SETTINGS -> PREFERENCES MENU option. You must then SAVE your settings and then SHUT DOWN IMSMS. After shutting IMSMS down, you must RESTART IMSMS. This will turn on the auto start feature. Now you can simply EXIT IMSMS. The next incoming message will auto start IMSMS. To disable this feature, you must have IMSMS running. Go to the SETTINGS -> PREFERENCES MENU and disable the AUTO START option. Save your settings, and then shut down IMSMS. Next, restart IMSMS back up and AUTO START will be cleared.


AUTO DISPLAY FEATURE explained:
===============================
AUTO DISPLAY feature in IMSMS will automatically bring IMSMS to the foreground if it is hidden. This happens when a new incoming message arrives and IMSMS is hidden. It will not bring itself to display if you have your phone locked. It will auto select the default friend in your friends list when it brings itself to the foreground. Any new messages that is not coming from the selected friend shall be displayed in a notification alert and dynamic alert (Menu->Alerts).

Chat Log Storage Path:
======================
When changing the path to where the chat log files are stored, be sure to RESTART IMSMS in order for the new data path to be set. If you have old chat log files in a directory you wish to have IMSMS load, simply set the chat log path in the MENU->PREFERENCES and RESTART IMSMS. The program will reload all your existing chat log files.

Please visit:
http://dsosoftware07.googlepages.com/imsmshelptutorial

for feature explanation and quick start guide.

[IMSMS]

Hi,

If there are not fatal crashes occuring, I will return in about a week or so. I have posted the newest build which now includes a "mute" function - which should satisfy some users that are annoyed with the loud sounds (even though it is set to your volume ear piece level).

Newest build and release notes are posted on the home site:

http://dsosoftware07.googlepages.com/imsms-instantmessagingsms

Thanks again and feel free to email me anytime.

Cheers,
DSO

[IMSMS]

Attention ALL TMOBILE DASH USERS (how to fix your "not receiving incoming problems":

IMSMS may not work on your phone due to the fact if you have upgraded from WM5 to WM6 yourself, there is broken interface in Windows Mobile 5 that prevents standard sms message interceptions. In order to fix this, go ahead and try the following:

Navigate to your phone's system registry:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Software\Inb ox\Svc\Sms\Rules

Within the above entry will be two:

{1000BC1C-F4A3-4210-B197-4AEBF2CEE6F5}

{77990A0E-60B8-4103-B9AF-17157E4274FD}

Or anything else that may be listed in that registry entry -

make sure you back up your registry before you proceed:

DELETE THEM ALL ***EXCEPT THE TWO ABOVE***. All of the entries listed under:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Software\Inb ox\Svc\Sms\Rules

REBOOT your Tmobile Dash - then everything should work with IMSMS and other applications.

(the source was from Peter Foot's Windows Mobile Blog).

[IMSMS]

For those who have waited, it's finally here for you:

IMSMS now supports VIBRATION feature.

Please visit the home site for download and release notes. For those devices that support the vibration feature, you will see the feature automatically available - if not, it will not be selectable (from the main Menu)


PS - this is for SMARTPHONE users ONLY. PPC editions will not have this function.
Thanks,
DSO

[Fightthegoodfight]

Hey! Well after my long absense im back and just tested newest version on PPC. Now I am recieving messages with no problems and they are instant. Some things I would like to see.
-Vibration for PPC, this would sell it for me.
-Have an option to "quick minimize" on right soft key so when i have S2U2 running and i get a message i can minimize it quick, otherwise it gets all glitchy.

Thanks for the hard work and take a week off for once!

[sparticus]

I like the app, but It seems..umm, really ugly, lol...and I think it only works if its running in the background.

[IMSMS]

IMSMS Core Performance Update:

THere is a PERFORMANCE UPDATE - this will be the ONLY time there is a revision in the core engine - enough to warrant an ARCHIVE and DELETE process of your chat logs. Please follow the instructions below:


Release Notes Build (1.0.210):
==============================
*** IMPORTANT *** - YOU must ARCHIVE all our chat logs and DELETE THEM ALL before you can use this version.

* IMSMS Core Engine performance update - the core engine is modified and is even more robust and quicker than ever before.
* Fixed pre-set text message focus - when browsing your chat log, focus is lost when selecting a preset message to send.
* Fixed Unicode issue - affects PRE-1.0.210 builds only


Please, if you are using PRE 1.0.210 versions, archive your logs and then delete them all before sending messages. This is the only time you will need to do this ever - there is an internal performance rewrite - this is necessary.

This will be last update for weekend - Thanks again for your support,
DSO

[dash7869]

is the sent messages meant to be saved? that is,will we view it in the 'Sent' folder of the Messaging application?

[IMSMS]

is the sent messages meant to be saved? that is,will we view it in the 'Sent' folder of the Messaging application?

ALL MESSAGES ARE SAVED - both incoming and outgoing.

You can view them when you have archived them - on your pc desktop. I can implement a view chat log feature as well inside IMSMS - or you can parse the XML yourself and create your own viewer if you'd like.

The log viewer too is being updated right now- but the old version should work fine to view your archived logs.

[IMSMS]

PPC Vibration is NOW SUPPORTED!
Version 1.0.211 for PPC - Smartphone editions already have it enabled.

Thanks for waiting on this feature - it will work 100% on HTC devices - but some devices may not have vibration so let me know your device brand and I can create a solution for you.

Please read the RELEASE NOTES on the Home site - very important instructions before you start using IMSMS.

Thanks again,
DSO

PS - for real this time, I'm off for the weekend ;)

[queer~dude]

excuse me, does IMSMS mean to send SMS through internet right, i mean take me for an example, i have unlimited monthly GPRS package, so does it mean i can send SMS as many as i can without Extra charges right??
Thanks in advance

[dash7869]

ALL MESSAGES ARE SAVED - both incoming and outgoing.

You can view them when you have archived them - on your pc desktop. I can implement a view chat log feature as well inside IMSMS - or you can parse the XML yourself and create your own viewer if you'd like.

The log viewer too is being updated right now- but the old version should work fine to view your archived logs.

thanks for the prompt response.. what i mean was, will the sms be saved inside the native Messaging app of WM6, not in the xml/htm file of IMSMS? (can i see it in inbox/outbox)

[wacky.banana]

excuse me, does IMSMS mean to send SMS through internet right, i mean take me for an example, i have unlimited monthly GPRS package, so does it mean i can send SMS as many as i can without Extra charges right??
Thanks in advance

IMSMS is just another way of receiving and sending text messages. The main difference is that you get threading within IMSMS, which you don't get with your standard text inbox.

In all other respects it works the same as when you send and receive texts via your standard inbox. You will get charged in the same way as with your standard inbox, or whatever charging arrangement/package you have with your service provider.

IMSMS is not about getting you something for nothing, I'm afraid.

WB

[wacky.banana]

Guys,

This developer has been talking about taking a break for a while now without it happening. I have been corresponding with him separately by email on other matters and have reminded him about him doing so.

A lot of the developers on here are very enthusiastic people who put in shedloads of their time, over and above their daily jobs, to get things done. The problem is they don't recognise the personal impact that kind of intense schedule has until it's too late. This has already happened to a very well known ROM developer on here who, in the end, had to take an enforced time-out.

This message is simply to ask you all, as a community, to help ensure that these gifted people who give their time on here for free don't burn themselves out.

So bottom line is this - if DSO returns to this board before the end of next week can we all do our bit to persuade him to take the break he has been craving for a while now.

Meantime please post up your test results of IMSMS as normal.

Thanks for your support.

WB

[queer~dude]

IMSMS is just another way of receiving and sending text messages. The main difference is that you get threading within IMSMS, which you don't get with your standard text inbox.

In all other respects it works the same as when you send and receive texts via your standard inbox. You will get charged in the same way as with your standard inbox, or whatever charging arrangement/package you have with your service provider.

IMSMS is not about getting you something for nothing, I'm afraid.

WB
thanks for such great explanation.....i got it worked on my DopodD810, so far i don't see errors happened....will test for few more days...thanks

[dash7869]

The 'Confirm SAVE on Exit' cant be unchecked.... even though i saved the settings and restarted the IMSMS.. (not a biggie though, i just manually edited the data.dat file)

Also, at the Menu -> Settings -> Preferences, there is not option to cancel any changes, so there will always be a prompt telling us to SAVE and RESTART the app..

so far so good.. itz super fast! great job

[Fightthegoodfight]

Alright hope your enjoying the vacation!

I have the new version with vibration, but doesnt seem to vibrate, otherwise the program is flawless and quite fast. I'm running a Att 8525(Tytn) with vp3gs 3.62 ROM.Perhaps I dont have the right settings before I tick the "Vibrate function"?

Thanks!

[deenice]

Alright hope your enjoying the vacation!

I have the new version with vibration, but doesnt seem to vibrate, otherwise the program is flawless and quite fast. I'm running a Att 8525(Tytn) with vp3gs 3.62 ROM.Perhaps I dont have the right settings before I tick the "Vibrate function"?

Thanks!

Vibrate only works on the Smartphone platform at the moment. Check out the release notes above. :)

[IMSMS]

Guys,

This developer has been talking about taking a break for a while now without it happening. I have been corresponding with him separately by email on other matters and have reminded him about him doing so.

A lot of the developers on here are very enthusiastic people who put in shedloads of their time, over and above their daily jobs, to get things done. The problem is they don't recognise the personal impact that kind of intense schedule has until it's too late. This has already happened to a very well known ROM developer on here who, in the end, had to take an enforced time-out.

This message is simply to ask you all, as a community, to help ensure that these gifted people who give their time on here for free don't burn themselves out.

So bottom line is this - if DSO returns to this board before the end of next week can we all do our bit to persuade him to take the break he has been craving for a while now.

Meantime please post up your test results of IMSMS as normal.

Thanks for your support.

WB

WB - thank you for the kind words and thank you for YOUR support time as well :)

I appreciate all the comments/feedbacks! I am really going to get on a small time off period (probably 1 day lol). But yes, I try to constantly work on a project to ensure it's all functioning properly.

Thanks again :)
---DSO

[IMSMS]

The 'Confirm SAVE on Exit' cant be unchecked.... even though i saved the settings and restarted the IMSMS.. (not a biggie though, i just manually edited the data.dat file)

Also, at the Menu -> Settings -> Preferences, there is not option to cancel any changes, so there will always be a prompt telling us to SAVE and RESTART the app..

so far so good.. itz super fast! great job

YES - on the PPC model, I believe I did leave it out by accident - the event is not set when you check the CONFIRM SAVE ON EXIT - some users find it annoying to have to answer "save settings" every time they exit the app.

I will correct this minor issue on the next build for PPC version 1.0.211.

Then I will introduce some new features into the next revisions. You will all like the new features very much so.

:)

[IMSMS]

Vibrate only works on the Smartphone platform at the moment. Check out the release notes above. :)

Sorry - I added it into PPC version already. The home site has the updated release notes.

This feature is on when you check the Vibrate Only menu item. If you are using an HTC (which you are), it should work fine. It's only when you have NON-HTC PPC's, that I may not work because the code is OEM specific to vibrate - on HTC's, it's a known "code" to vibrate - but on other devices, I may have to set a different code to vibrate.

Hope this makes sense. All Smartphones should vibrate incoming/outgoing. PPC's that use HTC brand should do the same.


PS - If you're phone doesn't support vibrate, you will not see it enabled in the menu. Or if it does and it's not an HTC (or IMSMS cannot find the right code for your phone to vibrate, it will not be enabled in the menu as well)

Thanks,
DSO

[burrzoo]

I first want to say THANK YOU again for this wonderful application. This latest version (1.0.211) seems to be working fine on my TyTN II now (had an issue after install that the texts went into the default HTC appl). Also, this latest version somehow fixed an issue I had with AT&T Text Alerts that come in at specified times throughout the day. I was only receiving the headers & no message then with Ver.1.0.200 I would get the complete message but when another alert came in I would only see the headers in the thread (although the History Log displayed all text :confused: ). Fear not, Ver. 1.0.211 fixed this before I could even tell you about it.

I do have a couple of questions and/or requests.
Do we have the ability to forward existing messages?
is it possible to paste text into the text entry field?
Is there a way to edit the registry and make the font bigger within the threaded messages?
If any of these can be done could someone explain how? If not, then I guess they are on my wish list! :D

Oh, by the way, heard you are overworked :eek: and should get some rest...I hope you are having that chance this weekend. ;)
Secondly, do you have a PayPal account? If so, please Post if possible or PM me because I'd like to make a "donation" to the [*list your choice here*] fund.

This is definitely the app that so many of us have been searching for and finally it's here.
Much appreciated,
burrzoo

[dash7869]

some feedback.. after installing the v1.0.211, i find that the not SMS notify other apps lag by like at elast 5-10sec.. is this intentional? cus i tried the v1.0.200 version and the notifications from the native Messaging app and the IMSMS came almost at the same time..

also, I am using the ppc edition on the HTC TyTN II, and vibrate doesnt seem to work..

[plucky10]

How do I make it where when I click on the message icon on HTC Home it will automatically go to IMSMS? Also, I wanted to thank you for all your time and effort that you put into making this great app!!! Keep it up...

P.S. Breaks are good...

[IMSMS]

Hi Everyone-

Yes, I'm going on break now :) Officially.

BUT before I do....

I have one version to release before I go on break - this release will benefit both PPC and smartphone users - PPC users get the same internal fixes and optimizations as the smartphones BUT the smartphones have something different!

Build 1.0.220


Please review the home site RELEASE NOTES. I strongly recommend those who have previous versions upgrade to this version - it has much improvement and a fix for the Dynamic Alerts.

http://dsosoftware07.googlepages.com/imsms-versionreleasenotes

Thanks again - I'll be re-reading all posts and emails when I get back in a day or two. Cheers everyone - and don't hesistate to ask questions! I'm sure at least ONE person here can answer your question(s).

Thanks again!
DSO
:)

[dash7869]

this guy is great! in 1.0.220, the Confirm Save Settings is indeed fixed.. :)Really lookin forward to your ver 1.1 for ppc, and it would really be great if the sms can be added to the Sent folder as well, the same thing that you have intercepted and passed it on to the Inbox.. just for backup purposes... cheers.. Thanks a whole bunch and have a great holiday!!


one thing though, for those who have tried texting in other languages, hope you can help me out:
i tried to send a message in japanese and it displays ok in the Textbox.. after i sent it, it displays as a series of question marks in the chat area..

I cant see any options to change encoding when i pull up the context menu.. what am i missing? thanks in advance!

[GermanGuy]

It seems that IMSMS coexists with the built-in SMS. Whenever i get a SMS, it goes both into IMSMS as well as the built-in SMS which is somewhat of a pain since i need to dismiss the alarm and notification for the built-in SMS. Is this supposed to behave like that. With Palm Threaded SMS, the program replaced the built in SMS which i liked.

[berndhufmann]

see post #145 and his reply

[dash7869]

It seems that IMSMS coexists with the built-in SMS. Whenever i get a SMS, it goes both into IMSMS as well as the built-in SMS which is somewhat of a pain since i need to dismiss the alarm and notification for the built-in SMS. Is this supposed to behave like that. With Palm Threaded SMS, the program replaced the built in SMS which i liked.

just make sure the 'SMS Notify other applications' is unchecked at Settings -> Preferences..

Remember to save settings and restart the IMSMS application

[GermanGuy]

Cool. Danke Bernd.

[IMSMS]

Next Revision Features:

I'm back! ;) but I'll be off and on because I am pushing a HUGE release in the next version - right now, 1.0.220 is the most stable version which also reduces memory usage more so than any previous builds. You guys will love the feature list coming up! ( I only list a few because there are more secrets to unveil when it's ready;))


PPC Version 1.1!!
Dynamic Group Send capability - send messages to groups - but with a twist! ;)
CUSTOMIZABLE RENDERING ENGINE!
AUTOBOT mode


The most significant will be the CUSTOMIZABLE RENDERING ENGINE. It will allow you to never before in any other threaded chatting program to fully CUSTOMIZE the way IMSMS will look! Is this something of a gimmick? NO, you will see how it works when I push this out in the next release (THIS WEEK!).

That's all for now -

Note: I'm working on bettering the multi-language support - so those that use languages other than english - use as is for now - hang in there :)

It will be very nice when You get the next release! The best version!!

---DSO

[IMSMS]

^^^
HI,

Will anyone submit for me an HTML template with the graphics that you would like to view as an example? I'm not a graphic designer - but if you think you'd like to take part in history ;), feel free to send me a template.

What I will need in the template - Anything you can design - that you think would be a hot skin for the rendering of incoming/outgoing text messages.

So you would basically design an html page with graphics included (if you'd like) and for now, just put in dummy values - such as the date/times, sender names, chat text etc. It's a mock up so that I can present to the world -

I will be selecting a few submissions - to be used as a primary skinning example in the next release. I normally never "ask" for anything - but this time, I think it will serve everyone very well if you think you have the design skills and want to take part in history ;)

thanks again, feel free to ask me more details if you aren't quite clear about the request.

---DSO

edit: forgot to add: you will work with resolution of 320x(unlimited)

[blazie151]

is there a way to make this compatible with finger friendly friends? I click the send sms button in that app and it still sends me to the default messaging inbox.

[dash7869]

DSO, you are simply amazing!

cant wait to see the new work!

already there are updates to v1.0.300 in progress!

[IMSMS]

Build 1.0.300

This one is great - as promised, this version supports FULL SKINNABLE interface - don't let the word skin fool you - What I mean to say is that there are numerous complaints about aesthetics - well, now you are on your own ;) IMSMS now supports full SKINNING of the log files! It's as easy as HTML and CSS and whatever you wish to throw at it! ;)

Please see home site for guidance on this new feature - it's a first for any sms threaded application to support this! (I hope so)

There is one default HTML template file I have included in this release. It is located in the \My Documents\IMSMS\SKINS\ folder. Navigate there and you will see a skin.htm file. Open it up - read it - it's just plain CSS with a simple table - the design is totally up to the end user now.

Dress up the incoming/outgoing text as you like - then simply upload the new skin.htm file into the directory of your choice - you can set this via the "SETTINGS->PREFERENCES->Enable Custom Skin menu option.

Check that box, a directory loading screen will show up - just load the directory where you're skin.htm file is. IMSMS will render the rest whenever there is NEW incoming/outgoing text. YOu can make changes ON THE FLY by simply dropping a new skin.htm file back on your phone!

It's cool.

What's new in 1.0.300 - PPC is now legit - The UI has been dressed up a bit (cleaned up) and now you have full notifications! In the very next build release, you will see IMSMS harness the power of the ppc - for now, just enjoy what you didn't have before because PPC editions were on the backburner ;)

There's a bunch of fixes/additions - check out the release notes for details. I am still working on the SKIN GUIDE - so email me if you have questions. Enjoy this release - at least you have a choice to dress up your own chat program!

List of changes for 1.0.300

SMARTPHONE UI Adjustments (very clean)
PPC UI adjustments! (very clean)
PPC Dynamic Notifications! (color coded Alert Icons) - CLICK functionality is in next release (when you click on the colored icon, a list of missed senders (dynamic alerts) will be shown. When you click on the sender's name, nothing will happen - UNTIL next release!
Fixed Dynamic Alerts/Notification Alerts - when starting IMSMS without any friends loaded; You choose to add friends from the manage friends OR "quick add friend" menu; you load the friends into the list; when a message arrives, Dynamic/Normal Alert is not shown and the respective chat log does not appear. This is fixed in both Smartphone and PPC editions.
Added new feature: Skinning! - See online help tutorial!
Added One View mode (convenience feature): when you send outgoing messages in ONE VIEW mode, the name of the friend you sent the text to will appear in the ONE VIEW chat log next to your name (Me): (Johnson, Jacksun) Hi there!
Adjusted UI size - smaller friends list font size, smaller text input entry area, to give way for larger chat log viewing * Added new ring tone when incoming messages arrive and you have proper friend already selected - but IMSMS is hidden in background, additional ringtone will be played (if enabled).
Internal AUTOBOT functionality is being tested in this version (not enabled yet)...
Internal Dynamic Group Send is being tested in this version (not enabled yet)...
Still investigating some minor issues with Unicode text - I am still working on reported claims of Chinese simplified fonts not working. Also note that there is no language support for your PPC/Smartphone unless your phone operates using the same code page as the incoming text messages. That means you cannot expect to read Chinese if your phone does not support the Chinese encoding.


What's next is 1.1 release for PPC and smartphone - it will be exciting because not only is IMSMS very robust and fast, it's going to get better - you have my word!

And it's FREE!

SO - if you haven't already gotten a the 1.0.300 version, please download and use it - you dont' have to use custom skins to get it to work - it's very cleaned up and the UI is better (even if it's subtle). You will like it!

Thanks,
DSO

Thanks to WB - and others for all your support - hope you guys like it - if you don't, go have a hamburger!

[IMSMS]

SKIN GUIDE JUST POSTED! - it's simple enough with an image to get you started ;)


See online help tutorial page

[dash7869]

in 1.0.300, i get an exception when trying to archive chats. this was working previously.. have the imsms custom skin (the one provided) on..

[GermanGuy]

Hmmm. I still have the problem of SMS going both into IMSMS and Pocket Outlook. I have the box "SMS notify other applications" unchecked, saved and restarted. And i repeated this several times. Any thoughts why this keeps happening?

[dash7869]

Hmmm. I still have the problem of SMS going both into IMSMS and Pocket Outlook. I have the box "SMS notify other applications" unchecked, saved and restarted. And i repeated this several times. Any thoughts why this keeps happening?

could u download the latest cab and reinstall? try again? it happened to me before but after i reinstalled it worked fine.. i am not sure what happened actually..

[Zack84a]

Question, when IMSMS logs incoming messages, does each contact get their own log file or is it all thrown into one??? (sorry if this has already been answered... just setting up my question)

Reason being, would it be possible to show a view of which log files (or individual chats) were last updated... in theory this would be more or less similar to the inbox of most of other sms applications, but when you click on the log file last updated, you would go to that chat....

If this was possible, you could apply your dynamic alerts to perhaps highlight logfiles (chats) that have been updated..... so you know where you have new messages...

Not sure if this would require a lot of code changing or not, or if its even a feature others would be interested in...

Let me know if this makes sense of not... if not Ill try to come up with something graphically to better explain..

[jomo25]

Wow, this app is looking better and better all the time. I'm always in awe of folks who can build these apps so quickly and for the general benefit of the public :) I am close to taking the plunge on this and moving from the Palm threaded SMS app. But I have a few questions I haven't seen answered yet:

1. if I turn off the "notify other apps" option, and let IMSMS handle everything, will the SMS counter on the HTC Home screen (I have a TyTN II) stil lupdate appropriately?
2. and if so, will tapping on the SMS counter icon in the HTC Home launch IMSMS, say if I wanted to start a new message?

If those are supported, I'll probably make the switch. And since I'm in awe, I would show my appreciation by getting you some coffee :)

[dash7869]

how does the custom skinning work with OneChat?

[IMSMS]

in 1.0.300, i get an exception when trying to archive chats. this was working previously.. have the imsms custom skin (the one provided) on..

To confirm if you have SMS NOTIFY and/or AUTO START activated, check the EngError.txt file in your application directory (where IMSMS.exe is located)

SEnd me the file and I will take a look for you - for PPC/SMARTPHONE, it should function as described- but I will take a look for you.

[IMSMS]

Question, when IMSMS logs incoming messages, does each contact get their own log file or is it all thrown into one??? (sorry if this has already been answered... just setting up my question)

Reason being, would it be possible to show a view of which log files (or individual chats) were last updated... in theory this would be more or less similar to the inbox of most of other sms applications, but when you click on the log file last updated, you would go to that chat....

If this was possible, you could apply your dynamic alerts to perhaps highlight logfiles (chats) that have been updated..... so you know where you have new messages...

Not sure if this would require a lot of code changing or not, or if its even a feature others would be interested in...

Let me know if this makes sense of not... if not Ill try to come up with something graphically to better explain..

Please see the online tutorials/video guides/feature explanations -

IMSMS has all of that and more - dynamic alerts, icon notifications is what you are asking about - all included since pre-1.0 builds.

If this isn't what you are asking about, email me directly I'll explain.

[IMSMS]

in 1.0.300, i get an exception when trying to archive chats. this was working previously.. have the imsms custom skin (the one provided) on..

Any time you have a strange error or don't know if something is working when you set it in the settings, send me your EngError.txt file.

It's an internal log kept by the engine so I can trace errors for you much easier.

Thanks!
---DSO

[IMSMS]

Wow, this app is looking better and better all the time. I'm always in awe of folks who can build these apps so quickly and for the general benefit of the public :) I am close to taking the plunge on this and moving from the Palm threaded SMS app. But I have a few questions I haven't seen answered yet:

1. if I turn off the "notify other apps" option, and let IMSMS handle everything, will the SMS counter on the HTC Home screen (I have a TyTN II) stil lupdate appropriately?
2. and if so, will tapping on the SMS counter icon in the HTC Home launch IMSMS, say if I wanted to start a new message?

If those are supported, I'll probably make the switch. And since I'm in awe, I would show my appreciation by getting you some coffee :)

SMS Notify - again (written in the tutorials/VIDEO GUIDE) is a "courtesy" option - that is IMSMS will not be greedy and keep all messages - it will forward a copy to any other app requesting it (mainly your default sms inbox). You turn it off, IMSMS will keep all messages - you also have a HISTORY LOG - a raw file that contains ALL MESSAGES INTERCEPTED BEFORE IMSMS ENGINE PROCESSES IT.

What is the SMS COUNTER? You mean character count or what specifically?

[IMSMS]

how does the custom skinning work with OneChat?

When you use custom skins, it renders for all views - One View mode, Instant Msgs Update, etc.

[IMSMS]

If you want different chat text color, font size, etc., do it yourself with a custom skin!

This is how easy you can have it work:

<html>
<body bgcolor=#F24446>
<div style="color:'RED'>#IMSMS_INTERNAL CODES#
</body>
</html>

Some simple HTML and you get what you create!

:)

[wacky.banana]

Guys,

Given that we now have the ability to skin the beast do we want to start throwing up/sharing our custom skins?

I'm looking for one that gives a slightly larger font so i don't go cross-eyed. :)

Cheers

WB

[IMSMS]

BUILD 1.0.400

Will be released TODAY -

THIS IS AN IMPORTANT UPDATE - reason being - some of you were RIGHT - the data settings seems to be overwritting the wrong data - it is left behind code from previous builds - my source version system is malfunctioning causing some new code NOT to be implemented. I caught this piece of crap and it will be 100% flawless in version 1.0.400 I GUARANTEE IT. THis is in regards to the SMS NOTIFY not saving/being disabled, etc.

Also, you guys have been patient and you are in for a real treat!

Build 1.0.400 includes the AUTO BOT mode - You will LOVE it.

I will post the update /download and new VIDEO GUIDE for this feature (it's big) when I finish - which is by today.

Thanks,
DSO

PS - WB, I will throw in a new template for you - to increase font size ;)

[Zack84a]

Please see the online tutorials/video guides/feature explanations -

IMSMS has all of that and more - dynamic alerts, icon notifications is what you are asking about - all included since pre-1.0 builds.

If this isn't what you are asking about, email me directly I'll explain.

so i don't think i was clear explaining what I am interested in, and I apologize completely. I have gone through the videos already and tutorial, and pretty sure this is a feature not already built in.. If I am wrong... call me dumb.. and I totally apologize. Been interested in this project since day one, and thought I would finally contribute..

I have attached a thumbnail of what I tried to explain before...

Basically, what you would see when you start IMSMS would be the names of the latest chats you would have had, and a brief part (basically what has room to show) part of your last message. From here you could click on any of the chats, and then the screen would go to the actual chat itself.... This is similar to the OEM SMS APP, or Palm Threaded... in the way they look when you open them... Of course OEM SMS isn't threaded sms, and palm threaded for me is flaky as can be.... So IMSMS is the best option for threaded sms.. Not only that we now we have a much more customizable program especially with skinning :D ....

I do know, that in theory all I am doing is saving some key presses to find some info... or I could switch to OneView, however all of the chats as a whole would be mixed together, which isn't what i am asking for either....

Personally this is something I would like much more then having to go through a couple clicks to see who sent me an SMS to get to their conversation, or just to see what the last person had said... However I do know that you have your own intentions and vision for the program, and I do not meant to step on your toes... and I am not sure if what I am asking is even possible to implement at this stage of the game... Let me know what you think..

[IMSMS]

BUILD 1.0.400 RELEASED!

See home site for download/release notes:

This version includes all previous builds enhancements AND additional Auto Messaging System!

It is a really stable and robust version to use if you haven't already upgraded. You will enjoy the new features!

[IMSMS]

IMSMS is very special to me - personally - I never intended to "copy" anyone elses ideas - as you can see from the progress thus far, IMSMS has already exceeded many expectations and I'm very sure many can agree you can't get ANYTHING out on the market today as much as IMSMS for FREE. That's not even a debate - and I'm not coming off to you in a bad way- never are my intentions bad period! (or else I would not spend so much time on this program for everyone!)

I accept all ideas - in fact, I have tweaked and modified IMSMS so that those ideas I have received can be shared with everyone. Smartphones are so limited - both in hardware resources and screen space. PPC on the other hand is fantastic - I have to juggle both platforms - so it's quite difficult for me to ensure that both receive equal treatment in terms of features -

The screen listing feature is a no brainer for the PPC - for the smartphone, I will think about it and decide on how to design it properly - of course incorporating your idea into the design. I don't want to make promises, but I am working on a few designs for others right now - so whatever I can get tested and finished in time will be released.

Also, I'm sure most of you here are delighted with IMSMS updates - because every update now and until I say I'm done will contain NEW features, LESS BUGS (hopefully), and an improved overall experience with IMSMS.

I will take your idea and really think about it - I appreciate all your feedback and thank you for your support! I have to deal with skinning now - because I know that once I open up the application to more skinnable options, the next thing you know will be someone asking me to allow them to skin the entire interface ;)

Lastly, give "Instant Msgs Update" a chance - it's located in the MENU->CHAT LOGS->Enable Msgs Instant Update

That feature is similar to what you are describing - aside from ONE VIEW mode, Enable Msgs Instant Update will allow any incoming messages to arrive without you having to switch to the logs to see the text messages. In fact, it is a frequently used feature by some of my testers - they like it, and you have the option to turn it off as well.

The new features I have implemented in 1.0.400 is awesome (I feel). It's really worthy of a look - now you have something in addition to the other features that will aid you in your day-to-day sms joys.

Let me know if my babbling sucks - you can always email me and we can discuss about features/etc.

Thanks,
DSO

so i don't think i was clear explaining what I am interested in, and I apologize completely. I have gone through the videos already and tutorial, and pretty sure this is a feature not already built in.. If I am wrong... call me dumb.. and I totally apologize. Been interested in this project since day one, and thought I would finally contribute..

I have attached a thumbnail of what I tried to explain before...

Basically, what you would see when you start IMSMS would be the names of the latest chats you would have had, and a brief part (basically what has room to show) part of your last message. From here you could click on any of the chats, and then the screen would go to the actual chat itself.... This is similar to the OEM SMS APP, or Palm Threaded... in the way they look when you open them... Of course OEM SMS isn't threaded sms, and palm threaded for me is flaky as can be.... So IMSMS is the best option for threaded sms.. Not only that we now we have a much more customizable program especially with skinning :D ....

I do know, that in theory all I am doing is saving some key presses to find some info... or I could switch to OneView, however all of the chats as a whole would be mixed together, which isn't what i am asking for either....

Personally this is something I would like much more then having to go through a couple clicks to see who sent me an SMS to get to their conversation, or just to see what the last person had said... However I do know that you have your own intentions and vision for the program, and I do not meant to step on your toes... and I am not sure if what I am asking is even possible to implement at this stage of the game... Let me know what you think..

[dash7869]

To confirm if you have SMS NOTIFY and/or AUTO START activated, check the EngError.txt file in your application directory (where IMSMS.exe is located)

SEnd me the file and I will take a look for you - for PPC/SMARTPHONE, it should function as described- but I will take a look for you.

Hi, I have checked the EngError file and there was no log of the exception. Does so says my Normal STart and AutoStart were all successful...

The Exception I get when I try to archive (All) my logs is:

Failed to Archive!
Archiving Interrupted
NotSupportedException

==========================================
Let me try out the new version first

thanks!

==========================================
same thing with v1.0.400... no log in the EngErr file

[IMSMS]

Hi, I have checked the EngError file and there was no log of the exception. Does so says my Normal STart and AutoStart were all successful...

The Exception I get when I try to archive (All) my logs is:

Failed to Archive!
Archiving Interrupted
NotSupportedException

==========================================
Let me try out the new version first

thanks!

Let me look at the all archiving functionality - there shouldn't be an issue - DO NOT PLACE XML OR HTML FILES in the same directory as your templates!

I need to make a big sign - the log files should sit in a directory alone - nothing else but IMSMS log files should be there - or you risk deleting something things you don't want! Throwing your skin.htm file in the same directory as your log file is a no-no; there may be a locking issue as well if it sits inside the same directory as the log files.

I looked at the code - there seems to be no troubles - be sure you don't have anything else but the LOG files in the assigned chat log data path.

[IMSMS]

dash7869-

I just ran a full archive fine without error - just make sure you tell IMSMS when it prompts you to enter a directory that the directory is EMPTY - doesn't contain anything - and ensure your skin.htm file or anything XML/HTML isn't in the same directory as your chat logs are.

Let me know if you are having troubles - still

DSO

[dash7869]

When you use custom skins, it renders for all views - One View mode, Instant Msgs Update, etc.
The Emoticons are not showing up.. is there a tag I can change the directory? or something? i already read the online tutorial, but not sure how to get the emoticons showing in One View mode (i just get a blank image box )

[dash7869]

dash7869-

I just ran a full archive fine without error - just make sure you tell IMSMS when it prompts you to enter a directory that the directory is EMPTY - doesn't contain anything - and ensure your skin.htm file or anything XML/HTML isn't in the same directory as your chat logs are.

Let me know if you are having troubles - still

DSO

Thanks for the prompt response! :) I will try it out again
==========================================

still the same exception.

I tried to create a new (empty) folder on both main memory and storage, tried with the default folder.. but I still get the popup exception..

I do think that the archiving was done, but not sure why I get the Exception dialog box..

[IMSMS]

The Emoticons are not showing up.. is there a tag I can change the directory? or something? i already read the online tutorial, but not sure how to get the emoticons showing in One View mode (i just get a blank image box )

Emoticons show up automatically - you do not need to specify a path - however, due to the skinning engine in place, I don't deny that you are not seeing emoticons - the emoticons turn on when the NEXT SEND/RECEIVE is done - so if you turned on EMOTICONS - it won't show up - UNTIL the next SEND/RECEIVE.

[IMSMS]

The Emoticons are not showing up.. is there a tag I can change the directory? or something? i already read the online tutorial, but not sure how to get the emoticons showing in One View mode (i just get a blank image box )

Just tested this out without skinning - it's there - even with skinning on, it should be there - the skin engine is independant of the emoticons render engine - you should see them fine - just make sure your skin is not broken - make sure you insert the #IMSMS_BASE_HREF# link before every image path:

<img src=#IMSMS_BASE_HREF#\myImage.gif>

If you leave out the #IMSMS_BASE_HREF#/ you will see an X in your skin as well.

you need the trailing "\" - that is a BACKSLASH, not the ? forward slash (/)

thanks.

[IMSMS]

If you guys end up trying out the new Auto Messaging system, let me know - it's quite useful when you are driving your car or when you are in a meeting or just when you don't want that person to bother you.

;)

You can also switch away messages DYNAMICALLY - you just switch the message in the menu - it's super fast too.

Thanks,
DSO

[jomo25]

See the attached pic. The circled counter is what I am talking about. In the HTC Home app, this is the new SMS message counter/indicator. I realize that if I do pass the messages thru to the default messaging client it will likely keep accurate count. But, then I'd have to delete messages out of the default messaging client also. I'm wondering if the counter will still function if I DON'T pass the message thru to other apps.

Also, touching this indicator in the HTC Home also opens up the messaging client. In the Palm threader app, this button does open the Palm messaging client. I'm asking others who may be using this with HTC Home if installing this prog will somehow remap this button, or if there is a way to do it via the registry.

Thanks again for the great work and quick responses...

[IMSMS]

See the attached pic. The circled counter is what I am talking about. In the HTC Home app, this is the new SMS message counter/indicator. I realize that if I do pass the messages thru to the default messaging client it will likely keep accurate count. But, then I'd have to delete messages out of the default messaging client also. I'm wondering if the counter will still function if I DON'T pass the message thru to other apps.

Also, touching this indicator in the HTC Home also opens up the messaging client. In the Palm threader app, this button does open the Palm messaging client. I'm asking others who may be using this with HTC Home if installing this prog will somehow remap this button, or if there is a way to do it via the registry.

Thanks again for the great work and quick responses...

Thanks for the pic - it's clearer now -

IMSMS does not update that counter - it's part of your system messaging counter - however, I'm working on some new counters inside IMSMS - whether or not it will function depends on how that home screen application ties in with the default messaging program - bottom line is almost anything is possible - but depends on how much time you want to invest in making it work.

Let me know if you have any more questions, etc.
DSO

[IMSMS]

The short HELP guide for the AUTO MESSAGING SYSTEM is online - please see help tutorial page:

http://dsosoftware07.googlepages.com/imsmshelptutorial

I'm going to take a break - I need to time off - there's a few more HUGE features to add - I'm beginning the work after my short break - it will be Dynamic Group Send (along with WB's idea) and also some nifty features - such as electric shock when you press the button S.

Good nite and God Bless,
DSO

[jomo25]

Thanks for the pic - it's clearer now -

IMSMS does not update that counter - it's part of your system messaging counter - however, I'm working on some new counters inside IMSMS - whether or not it will function depends on how that home screen application ties in with the default messaging program - bottom line is almost anything is possible - but depends on how much time you want to invest in making it work.

Let me know if you have any more questions, etc.
DSO

Cool, thanks again. Glad that helped explain it. So, just for your knowledge, the counter probably IS connected to the default messaging counters. Because it does work with the Palm messaging app (which of course was intended for the Palm WM phones and not the HTC phones), and it works without any customization on either app. So, likely, it would work if a future version of IMSMS does integrate into that.

As for launching IMSMS from that button, I bet that's a registry entry somewhere on the phone. Basically, the Palm app does also get launched as it should from there. I think there's an entry somewhere for what program to run for the default msging app. and the Palm installer likely sets that. So, it would just take a similar change to launch IMSMS executable. I'll look into that if no one else knows off hand, once the first change discussed is made...

thanks again!

[dash7869]

Just tested this out without skinning - it's there - even with skinning on, it should be there - the skin engine is independant of the emoticons render engine - you should see them fine - just make sure your skin is not broken - make sure you insert the #IMSMS_BASE_HREF# link before every image path:

<img src=#IMSMS_BASE_HREF#\myImage.gif>

If you leave out the #IMSMS_BASE_HREF#/ you will see an X in your skin as well.

you need the trailing "\" - that is a BACKSLASH, not the ? forward slash (/)

thanks.

Thanks for being so patient and thanks for this fantastic pic of work! :) ave a good break!

[dash7869]

any one tried the v1.0.400 yet? is the data settings saving and loading working ok for you guys?

[dash7869]

can someone post a default data.dat for me please? thanks!
==================================================
nvm i managed to dig up by restoring some older sprite backup..

anyway i do confirm that the save settings option in this build is somehow broken.. the data.dat is truncated to 1k and the xml nodes are hence incomplete.. and the next time imsms starts up, there will be a prompt saying resource cant be loaded.. basically imsms cant be used anymore

[IMSMS]

can someone post a default data.dat for me please? thanks!
==================================================
nvm i managed to dig up by restoring some older sprite backup..

anyway i do confirm that the save settings option in this build is somehow broken.. the data.dat is truncated to 1k and the xml nodes are hence incomplete.. and the next time imsms starts up, there will be a prompt saying resource cant be loaded.. basically imsms cant be used anymore

Hey there,

the save features in version 1.0.400 is NOT BROKEN - DELETE you data.dat file and it will load all defaults. Do not use your own or any passed down (hand me downs from the net) data.dat file (even though old files are compatible) - there aren't all options included in the old data.dat file.

If you need help, please email me directly. I can assist you personally :)

---DSO

[IMSMS]

I cannot seem to find a break lol.

Build 1.0.401

Thanks to Dash7869 - he deserves all the credit - he sent me his EngError.txt file - there is a data file corruption that occurs with PPC users ONLY. The new builds should repair the corrupted data file for you - if IMSMS cannot recover the settings you saved, go ahead and resave them again - OR send me your data.dat file and I will repair for you.

It is users like dash7869 that deserves praise because if he didn't bring this to my attention, I wouldn't of caught this problem - its the versioning system I use that is causing all the headaches - I have stopped using it from now on!

Thanks to dash7869 for the sherlock investigation and his persistence on telling me I need to wake up and fix the problem(s) - I'm being sarcastic ;) he's great :)

--Thanks again!
DSO - I'll be off and on - don't hesitate to email me anytime.

[dash7869]

Cheers man and no need to thank me, i added to your work.

To confirm, it does work now - PERFECTLY! thanks for your great work and efforts!

have a GOOD BREAK.. I promise i wont bug you... so soon! hahaha

Thanks again!

[IMSMS]

Cheers man and no need to thank me, i added to your work.

To confirm, it does work now - PERFECTLY! thanks for your great work and efforts!

have a GOOD BREAK.. I promise i wont bug you... so soon! hahaha

Thanks again!

Somehow when you mentioned the word: BUG, I actually had goose bumps lol.

I'll be back soon enough - enjoy and keep the feature request coming in! And please, use the SKINNING features - I will improve optimizations on that - but help each other out - supply the templates :)

[wacky.banana]

Dso,

Are You Ever Going To Take This Break Or What!!?? :)

Oh, and thanks for the template, btw. Will see if it makes a difference. :)

WB

[IMSMS]

Dso,

Are You Ever Going To Take This Break Or What!!?? :)

Oh, and thanks for the template, btw. Will see if it makes a difference. :)

WB

Break? sure, I was on it - lol - but I'm still off and on so I'll be lurking around. I have a new build for smartphone users only (at the moment) -

Build 1.0.405

Just some new enhancements (if you can call it that): you can dynamically adjust your sound level in this latest build.

Thanks!! PS - I will try to get some more templates in to demonstrate how versatile the customization really is - I've been experimenting with just CSS + HTML and you can make the display look terrific! (you can just create two lines of HTML and you'll get yourself something cool as well).

Edit: Both platforms updated

[barty128]

I have downloaded and installed this on to a c600 running wm6. It all works, can send and receive but when I type in the text box it keeps going on one line, i.e. it goes of the edge of the screen so you can't read it. I am using the latest version but can't believe this is how it should function????

[blackwrx]

Installed fine, but for some reason i can't add any contacts to my friends list because they don't show up. It's only showing the default contacts that came on the phone when I first got it, i.e. Sprint CS, Voicemail, ETC.

edit: Nevermind I figured it out. Apparently outlook deleted all my contact info when I imported them from thunderbird, and left just the names there.

[IMSMS]

I have downloaded and installed this on to a c600 running wm6. It all works, can send and receive but when I type in the text box it keeps going on one line, i.e. it goes of the edge of the screen so you can't read it. I am using the latest version but can't believe this is how it should function????

It was designed to fit the screen of the HTC S620 - Versions 1.0.300+ have the text box enlarged a bit - so the next builds, I will shrink it back to fit the screen without any clipping issues on non-HTCS620 model phones.

Thanks for letting me know!
---DSO

[IMSMS]

Hi,

Just wanted to let you all know, Version 1.1 will be the final release of IMSMS - I will continue to support the program, but Version 1.1 is expected to be a fully polished/optimized version that will include some new features (such as Dynamic Group Send) and a few more here and there.

I will conclude this journey until I get enough support for Version 2.0 or when unexpected bugs pop up.

There's a personal reason for this departure - and I may share it with you all soon enough. Thank you for your patience and continued support!

Sincerely,
---DSO

[Fightthegoodfight]

Hi,

Just wanted to let you all know, Version 1.1 will be the final release of IMSMS - I will continue to support the program, but Version 1.1 is expected to be a fully polished/optimized version that will include some new features (such as Dynamic Group Send) and a few more here and there.

I will conclude this journey until I get enough support for Version 2.0 or when unexpected bugs pop up.

There's a personal reason for this departure - and I may share it with you all soon enough. Thank you for your patience and continued support!

Sincerely,
---DSO

Beautiful program! I hope the personal reason is a good thing in your life and I wish you the best, thanks for IMSMS!!

[dash7869]

I want to thank you for such an awesome program. Creative ideas and you reply your emails so faithfully too!

All the best and sure hope you come back here.. Take care!!

PS: v1.0.410 build is perfect! ;)

Hi,

Just wanted to let you all know, Version 1.1 will be the final release of IMSMS - I will continue to support the program, but Version 1.1 is expected to be a fully polished/optimized version that will include some new features (such as Dynamic Group Send) and a few more here and there.

I will conclude this journey until I get enough support for Version 2.0 or when unexpected bugs pop up.

There's a personal reason for this departure - and I may share it with you all soon enough. Thank you for your patience and continued support!

Sincerely,
---DSO

[IMSMS]

IMSMS Skinning Guide

Here's what skinning can do for you in IMSMS ;) You can totally change the way the application looks - to your liking - change fonts, text size, coloring, graphics, the list is endless. A few simple HTML/CSS lines of code wrapped with some INTERNAL IMSMS CODES, you have yourself something a bit more elegant! YOu can then share your skin to anyone - just create it and pass it around - the reason for this post is so that you can truly understand how IMSMS is different than ALL OF THE SMS THREADING programs out on the market - this feature is very original and unique to IMSMS!

Here's what it can look like for you (the template is provided in the skinning tutorial on site)

http://dsosoftware07.googlepages.com/SkinDefault.jpg/SkinDefault-full.jpg

Download the template and review - you can make it whatever you want - (Do note: optimizations are coming - try to not get too fancy - because you may run out of memory/slow down your display before you can say, DAMN!" :)

CHeck out the skinning guide:

http://dsosoftware07.googlepages.com/imsms-skinningguide

The template file download (in a .zip) is underneath the image on that tutorial page. Instructions on how to install is written on bottom of page.

Enjoy!
---DSO

[berndhufmann]

Hi DSO, there is a green and orange envelope icon at the bar. What does this means? Thanks!!

[jomo25]

Hi DSO, there is a green and orange envelope icon at the bar. What does this means? Thanks!!

Click this link:
http://dsosoftware07.googlepages.com/imsms-versionreleasenotes

Scroll about halfway down to the section called: Release Notes Build (1.0.220)

It explains the envelopes and the colors.

[IMSMS]

Build 1.0.455 Released

For both PPC/Smartphone - it's getting near version 1.1 release - I am working on some key goals - mainly optimizations and the Dynamic Group Send is still coming - expect to see it in 1.1 because it is a big feature.

There will be another useful feature added in the next build - more convenience features.

What's new in 1.0.455

* for those who haven't already, install 1.0.455 - it will give you a better UI view of the chat display - the rendering engine is now retrofitted with a new template design. Be sure to LOAD DEFAULT COLORS in the Color Options menu - to see the new template colors - or else you will be seeing your own saved color settings. This is very fitting because it makes everything look way better (font size, etc)

This is a new skin that is BUILT IN. I have also done a few tweaks to the rendering engine - so you should gain a bit of performance (though you may not really notice in terms of speed compared to 1.0.410).


Edit: 1.0.455 additional fix to text entry and SMS Character count after sending a text message - now the SMS character count screen updates and you can now enter text after you send a message. Previous versions would not focus the text entry area causing you to have to select the text entry area in order to type a message after sending one. The sms character count also did not update properly. Also in 1.0.455 is the fix for ONe View mode - the chat logs would not show up with the new built-in template - see home site for release notes.


Enjoy, email me if you have questions!

PS - jomo25 is right - there are some images in the release notes describing the different colored icons - as well as in the MAIN TUTORIAL PAGE, the video feature describing the Dynamic Alerts will also list out the ICON declarations.

Thanks!!!

[amders]

hi, i really like your program (IMSMS) but until now I haven't installed it yet... I wondering if your program just for sms only or it can be used for sms too? and another one, User Interface for pocket PC i think it's too mess.. I prefer UI like palm threaded sms.. it's more simple.. and easy.. btw sorry for commenting but I admit that your program really nice... maybe you can add mms support in future developmetn?

[IMSMS]

hi, i really like your program (IMSMS) but until now I haven't installed it yet... I wondering if your program just for sms only or it can be used for sms too? and another one, User Interface for pocket PC i think it's too mess.. I prefer UI like palm threaded sms.. it's more simple.. and easy.. btw sorry for commenting but I admit that your program really nice... maybe you can add mms support in future developmetn?

Hi,

I'm never offended - you are free to use any software you wish on your device. If you like the buggy palm threader, you are free to use that as well. I spent quite a bit of time accomodating features and design so that it will fit a majority of users - and best of all it's FREE. You can always pay $ to use other software - but if you can find one that is as feature packed as this one, let me know :) I'm just kidding - it's all nice to have things in life for free.

Enjoy and be sure to check out the home site's tutorial's and soon to be FAQ.

Thanks,
DSO

[soda97]

how come I follow to add the register key on my Dash but still can't receive it from IMSMS?
I have no problem sending it out...
what else am i missing?


soda

[IMSMS]

how come I follow to add the register key on my Dash but still can't receive it from IMSMS?
I have no problem sending it out...
what else am i missing?


soda

Many users have messaged me regarding this and many have incorrect keys registered - be sure you have the proper keys created - and then each key having the proper DWORD VALUE created respectively.

They are KEYS - so they should appear as a 'directory' underneath the Rules path specified in the help guide. If you do it correctly, it will work.

You just have to be sure you have it correctly created.

Email me if you are still having issues.
---DSO

[IMSMS]

Build 1.0.460 released

Some new additions as well as fixes - caught by some of the users - thanks to quicksand for messaging me in regards to a small mistake made by me when you archive all your chat logs.

See release notes for more info - download and notes on home site.

Thanks again!
---DSO

[amders]

Hi,

I'm never offended - you are free to use any software you wish on your device. If you like the buggy palm threader, you are free to use that as well. I spent quite a bit of time accomodating features and design so that it will fit a majority of users - and best of all it's FREE. You can always pay $ to use other software - but if you can find one that is as feature packed as this one, let me know :) I'm just kidding - it's all nice to have things in life for free.

Enjoy and be sure to check out the home site's tutorial's and soon to be FAQ.

Thanks,
DSO

yep you're coorect, palm threaded is buggy.. oh yah.. i wonder if your IMSMS can be MMS client also?? and can the message archieve put on storage card.. not phone memory?

[amders]

hello there, i've already installed your apps on my tytn (softbank x01ht a.k.a htc tytn)..
i've few comment for your program:
- why don't you give user freedom to put contact number using keyboard or any other input methods, so user doesn't need add friend list for sending message.. for example... when you want to send message for 1111111 (example) your needed to add as friend list first.. or.. you can give user too choose from built in wm6 contact manager...
- and i think there a bug.. when i'm choosing menu --> create normal sms message, it show error window
the message like this

An unexpected error has occured in IMSMS.exe
Select Quit and the restart this program, or select Details for more information.
Native method call failed


and this is the detail

IMSMS.exe
Win32 Exception
Native methods call failed.

at
Microsoft.WindowsMobile.PocketOutlook.Utilities.Ch eckHRESULT()
at
Microsoft.WindowsMobile.PocketOutlook.MessangingAp plication.DisplayComposeForm()
at b.ch()
at b.bn()
at System.Windows.Form.MenuItem.OnCLick()
at System.Windows.Form.Menu.ProcessMenuProc()
at System.WIndows.Form.WnProc()
at System.Windows.Forms.Control_InternalWnProc()
at Microsoft.AGL.Forms.EVL.EnterMainLoop()
at System.Windows.Forms.Application.Run()
at q.a()


fyi i've disabled a sms and mms registry located at
HLM\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Svc
MMS and SMS key i've renamed these keys...

[berndhufmann]

Hi, i looked to the skinning guide to see if i can solve my problem myself, but i need help. Thanks!
Running IMSMs on S710 with the actual version, getting at portrait view problem by not splitting long message lines. At this view the message line isn´t displayed correctly meaning couldn´t read. Switching to landscape no problem everything is fine. How can i prevent IMSMs to "run out" of the viewing window in portrait mode?

[IMSMS]

amders-

Email me directly - I am not clear on your "registry" fixes.

As for inputting numbers, etc. You don't input numbers directly - you do it from the manage menu. Either QUICK ADD FRIEND or from the Manage Friends listing.

I don't see why there can't be a method to input a phone number directly either. I will look at this suggestion and let you know what I plan to do :)

Thanks for the tips :)
-DSO

[flynbryin]

I have a few questions on how IMSMS deal with notifications. When recieveing a SMS I get a popup notification which state "Recieving Messsage". I get a similar "Sending Message" popup notification as well. I am having an issue, where the the popup notifications dont go away (ie. on my today screen the left soft key is set to "Notification"). When press the notification soft key it will state "Sending / Recieving Message" and the only softkey option is hide. Anyone else having issues with this? Is there a way to disable the sending / receiving popups?

Edit: Sorry, forgot to mention what I am running Sprint Mogul running WM6.

[IMSMS]

Hi, i looked to the skinning guide to see if i can solve my problem myself, but i need help. Thanks!
Running IMSMs on S710 with the actual version, getting at portrait view problem by not splitting long message lines. At this view the message line isn´t displayed correctly meaning couldn´t read. Switching to landscape no problem everything is fine. How can i prevent IMSMs to "run out" of the viewing window in portrait mode?

THat depends on how your set your width adjustments. I recall using the table width to 100% - so it should auto size properly both in portrait/landscape - but the "run out" could be because of the <TD> being adjusted too short or too long. You will have play around with the adjustments to see how it affects the look. I will be redoing some of the custom skin features - one most important is to have it refresh manually rather than having to send a message to see the new changes (which at the moment I have to agree is stupid).

---DSO

[IMSMS]

I have a few questions on how IMSMS deal with notifications. When recieveing a SMS I get a popup notification which state "Recieving Messsage". I get a similar "Sending Message" popup notification as well. I am having an issue, where the the popup notifications dont go away (ie. on my today screen the left soft key is set to "Notification"). When press the notification soft key it will state "Sending / Recieving Message" and the only softkey option is hide. Anyone else having issues with this? Is there a way to disable the sending / receiving popups?

Edit: Sorry, forgot to mention what I am running Sprint Mogul running WM6.

Let me look at it again real quick - I have not received responses yet from the PPC platform - but I will take a look and run it thru the emulator again - because notifications are different on the PPC than on the smartphone.

I'll be right back.
---DSO

[IMSMS]

Yes, there is just a small timer issue - I am posting up 1.0.461 for PPC users only.

Be right back,
DSO

[IMSMS]

Hi (FlyinBryin) - and all:

Build 1.0.461 for PPC has been posted - fixed the issue with the notificaiton icon when sending/receiving messages - it would stick and not go away- in this release, it will work fine - it was due to a timer issue with the notification that caused the icons not to be loaded (instead the default icon loaded) and the the notification would stay forever (you can only hide it).

Thanks to FlyinBryin for bring this up!

---DSO

[flynbryin]

Hi (FlyinBryin) - and all:

Build 1.0.461 for PPC has been posted - fixed the issue with the notificaiton icon when sending/receiving messages - it would stick and not go away- in this release, it will work fine - it was due to a timer issue with the notification that caused the icons not to be loaded (instead the default icon loaded) and the the notification would stay forever (you can only hide it).

Thanks to FlyinBryin for bring this up!

---DSO

No problem! Im am amazed at how quickly you've responded! Thank You! I've deleted the palm threaded sms and will try solely run IMSMS and provide more feed back. I do have another question:

Are there plans to move away from PIE rendering the chat history to a custom built in solution? My concern here deal with memory consumption as I am running a Sprint Mogul and have little memory to spare.

[flynbryin]

Ok, I'll strike while the iron is hot. The update fixed some of the notification issues. Found another notification / SMS from email address. Use a great google firefox extension to SMS messages from my computer to my phone. On my phone the message is received from "sms-extension-user@google.com". I don't have address in my address book, nor would that contact have a mobile number. IMSMS seems to have trouble handling the case where a SMS sender's from address is an email address. Upon receipt of the SMS message I get the brown envelope and notification popup. Clicking on either does nothing. In IMSMS under menu > alerts there is a "sms-extension-user@google.com", but selecting does nothing. If I got into menu > Chat logs > Show History Log I can see the unread / undisplayed SMS message. The notification of Missed Senders remains on until I exit the IMSMS app.