a "U" where the "G" used to be

[equlizer]

K ya know beside the signal bar it shows a "G" then if you click on it it asks if you want to turn on wireless, well now there is a "U".

Is there someplace that can tell me what all these symbols mean?

[mr_skot_a]

Wow.... seriously... where do you live?

The U means that you now are connected to UMTS which gives you the "broadband" access through your provider. Make sure you have unlim data plan. It will start to eat it up when you realize what you get to do with all that bandwidth. Have FUN!!! :)

[equlizer]

well does it eat up data if you "dont" use messenger or web browse? AKA: just use the phone?

I do have a data plan for unlimited text messaging and i use Wifi when i wanna surf.

[mitch1974]

Quick guide:
Starting with the slowest.

Second Generation:
GSM
GPRS (the G symbol)
EDGE (the E symbol)

Third Generation:
UMTS (the U symbol or depending on localisation, 3G symbol)
HSDPA (the H symbol, if you've got this, then you're in for some fast download speeds)


It all depends on which network you're on and proximity to a tower as to what speed you will actually get.
There are other types, but these are the ones you're more likely to come across using a Hermes.

[mccreath]

ROTFLMAO.... I thought I had a bug in my ROM after flashing it, even went to the trouble of rolling back.

What a freakin' idiot I am!....

:rolleyes:

[Doom Tints]

I live in an area where i see U and H fairly often up there.

However, to me it makes little difference, I don't download large files with the device. Web browsing seems mostly unaffected by the connection type.

[pasan]

Having the device in 3G or 3.5G modes does however drain the battery somewhat faster. I saw the difference in my Uni. Can't comment on EDGE as the Uni doesn't have it, I'll be getting my Hermes today so I should be able to comment on that.

[Doom Tints]

It would be logical that the faster connection speeds would drain the battery faster, but I don't know how much faster we're talking about.

However, if battery life is a concern at all for anyone reading this, I would recommend turning off 3G altogether. Why? Web pages are going to render just as fast. Surfing the web is painful on these things regardless of the connection type.

[kaidian]

On T-Mobile at least - here is a rough guide for the download speeds for different connection types. These are averages and do change and vary with signal strength. I work for T-Mobile, so these are accurate ^^

GPRS - around 44 kbps
UTMS (3G) - around 386 kbps
HSDPA (3.5G) - up to 1.8 mbps (increasing to 3.6 soon)

If you are on T-Mobile, and in a 3G area, then you will be most likely connected to HSDPA as it covers the whole of their 3G network.

Hope this is of some interest....

[saimhe]

if battery life is a concern at all for anyone reading this, I would recommend turning off 3G altogether.

But how? AFAIK it's not trivial with my unit: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=337485.

[Doom Tints]

From your network type, select 'GSM' instead of 'Auto', which I'm sure it is on now. That will do the trick. You might see an 'E' if you service provider offers EDGE, but this won't be an issue, otherwise you will just see the 'G' again.

[saimhe]

Thank you. Now I know that in this sense, WCDMA = UMTS = "3G" icon.

[pasan]

From your network type, select 'GSM' instead of 'Auto', which I'm sure it is on now. That will do the trick. You might see an 'E' if you service provider offers EDGE, but this won't be an issue, otherwise you will just see the 'G' again.

That looks notoriously like one of my posts earlier in another thread :P

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=337485

[Doom Tints]

Yeah. Someone said OH MY I HOW DO I DO THIS IT'S HARD OMG and then pasted a link to your thread, which says clearly how to do it.

A simple cut and paste seemed in order. :)

[homerjay1981]

Hmmm...u poor guys..in Austria the speeds are different:

HSDPA : 7,2 MB (yep MegaBits) DL and 1,7 Mbits UL

BTW: HSDPA is not 3.5G its just a bunch of new coding schemes and NodeB software mods :.)

[kaidian]

Hmmm...u poor guys..in Austria the speeds are different:

HSDPA : 7,2 MB (yep MegaBits) DL and 1,7 Mbits UL

BTW: HSDPA is not 3.5G its just a bunch of new coding schemes and NodeB software mods :.)


T-Mobile UK will have these speeds by the end of 2008 all going well :)

[equlizer]

Well my phone bill is the same so thats good :)

Text messages get sent a tiny bit faster, surfing is a bit faster. I dont see what the big deal about the HW upgrade was. oh well :)