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Imanoltxo
06-10-2007, 04:16 PM
Hello. I've bought the kaiser and after the first batterie charge, i've seen that by the morning has the 100 per cent and 4 hours after it has the 74 per cent.
it's normal the consum?. why its consum is so big?.
I'm spanish. I'm sorry for my english.
Thanks.
jcespi2005
06-10-2007, 04:20 PM
Hello. I've bought the kaiser and after the first batterie charge, i've seen that by the morning has the 100 per cent and 4 hours after it has the 74 per cent.
it's normal the consum?. why its consum is so big?.
I'm spanish. I'm sorry for my english.
Thanks.
Check the ussuall parameters that affect the consum for the device, like "Transfer", Wifi, Data Connection, BT, power save parameters, etc....
In the night, i left the PDA at 100%, and in the morning 8 hours later i have 96%... only 4% all night...
Regards.
Imanoltxo
06-10-2007, 07:02 PM
Check the ussuall parameters that affect the consum for the device, like "Transfer", Wifi, Data Connection, BT, power save parameters, etc....
In the night, i left the PDA at 100%, and in the morning 8 hours later i have 96%... only 4% all night...
Regards.
Hello and thanks for your answer. the wifi is of, bt is on but I'll power off, over the power save, in two minutes the kaiser is of. It shows in the top the icon with "3g" (I can't remove for the "g" normal...is this one motive for the excesive consum?.) and I think that no conixion es maked. In practice I don't make nothing for the consum. Other thing, please. The gps...why I have to connect to "gps fast" (gps rapido in spanish) before to make something with the gps. Each 6 days I have to connect to internet (wifi or gprs or lan or etc.).?.
Thanks.
Slade8525
06-10-2007, 07:07 PM
the program you are referring to is merely a sattelite update utility; set it to automatically update and forget about it. i dont know that you HAVE to update it all the time, but it does make connecting and finding sattelites much easier.
As far as the battery, a new battery needs to charge and discharge several times before it will reach its maximum battery life, so it being discharged faster than you would expect is actually normal. you should notice its life will be extended after you charge and discharge it a few times, nothing to worry about
jcespi2005
06-10-2007, 07:12 PM
Hello and thanks for your answer. the wifi is of, bt is on but I'll power off, over the power save, in two minutes the kaiser is of. It shows in the top the icon with "3g" (I can't remove for the "g" normal...is this one motive for the excesive consum?.) and I think that no conixion es maked. In practice I don't make nothing for the consum. Other thing, please. The gps...why I have to connect to "gps fast" (gps rapido in spanish) before to make something with the gps. Each 6 days I have to connect to internet (wifi or gprs or lan or etc.).?.
Thanks.
Well, you need to take care about all the parameters, Trasnfer (Transferir en castellano) waste a lot of battery. 3G conection take more battery that GPRS, and you must be sure that no process access internet in background. Try to switch between GSM and UMTS to see if you get better results.
About GPS, GPS Rapido starts every time you power on the device, so you don't need to start it before to use TomTom or any other GPS app. Simply start TomTom and have fun ;)
you dont have to connect every 6 days, its just recommended to get super speedy locks thats all
I have BT on always and see about 4% loss of battery each night. I use the comm manager with a 3G button and turn off 3G, using EDGE most of the time unless I need a fast connection. I think this 3G connection is the main reason for higher battery consumption over night, EDGE is lower. Always keep WiFi off unless you are actively using it.
As far as Quick GPS/ Rapido, if you use active sync regularly with your PC, it updates every time so it will seldom if ever need to get a update over GSM since it gets 6 days of data at each update.
Regarding new lithium batteries, they don't need cycling like nicads to get full capacity, just charge and go but never leave them dead, ever.
Imanoltxo
07-10-2007, 06:08 AM
the program you are referring to is merely a sattelite update utility; set it to automatically update and forget about it. i dont know that you HAVE to update it all the time, but it does make connecting and finding sattelites much easier.
As far as the battery, a new battery needs to charge and discharge several times before it will reach its maximum battery life, so it being discharged faster than you would expect is actually normal. you should notice its life will be extended after you charge and discharge it a few times, nothing to worry about
Thanks. Is the same the cable who comes with the kaiser (usb) that the cable normal for the qtek 9100 or qtek s100 for to charge it?.
Bye.
Imanoltxo
07-10-2007, 06:11 AM
Well, you need to take care about all the parameters, Trasnfer (Transferir en castellano) waste a lot of battery. 3G conection take more battery that GPRS, and you must be sure that no process access internet in background. Try to switch between GSM and UMTS to see if you get better results.
About GPS, GPS Rapido starts every time you power on the device, so you don't need to start it before to use TomTom or any other GPS app. Simply start TomTom and have fun ;)
Hello and thanks. I can't quit de "3g" button for to change to "G" (gprs). I don't know and I've looked for all the setup.I can't only gsm, it must to be gsm+umts (in differents bands).
Today at 00:00 100 per cent. Today at 05:00 95 per cent. It appear too much, or not?.
jomo25
07-10-2007, 10:27 AM
Hello and thanks. I can't quit de "3g" button for to change to "G" (gprs). I don't know and I've looked for all the setup.I can't only gsm, it must to be gsm+umts (in differents bands).
Today at 00:00 100 per cent. Today at 05:00 95 per cent. It appear too much, or not?.
Go to Settings, Phone, Band tab. Select "GSM" in the "Select your network type" (the first) pick list. Leave the second "Select your GSM/UMTS band" as Auto.
Doing this will force your Kaiser to use GSM/GPRS/Edge and not allow it to use UMTS or HSDPA (3G). Try this to see if it makes your battery last longer.
This change will reduce battery consumption the most. However, you can't use 3G speed network, unless you change it back. To do so, set the first pick list back to Auto.
THere's a way to add a selection in the Comm Mgr to do this, but not sure if you would be comfortable doing it. It simply does the same thing as the above with a button press.
syntetisk
07-10-2007, 12:45 PM
THere's a way to add a selection in the Comm Mgr to do this, but not sure if you would be comfortable doing it. It simply does the same thing as the above with a button press.
Could you please describe or link how this is done?
jcespi2005
07-10-2007, 04:47 PM
Thanks. Is the same the cable who comes with the kaiser (usb) that the cable normal for the qtek 9100 or qtek s100 for to charge it?.
Bye.
Yes, the same cable...
jcespi2005
07-10-2007, 04:53 PM
Go to Settings, Phone, Band tab. Select "GSM" in the "Select your network type" (the first) pick list. Leave the second "Select your GSM/UMTS band" as Auto.
Doing this will force your Kaiser to use GSM/GPRS/Edge and not allow it to use UMTS or HSDPA (3G). Try this to see if it makes your battery last longer.
This change will reduce battery consumption the most. However, you can't use 3G speed network, unless you change it back. To do so, set the first pick list back to Auto.
THere's a way to add a selection in the Comm Mgr to do this, but not sure if you would be comfortable doing it. It simply does the same thing as the above with a button press.
Here is one post that helps adding 3G button into the commManager... to switch on/off the UMTS connection.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1543416&postcount=23
Dinty
07-10-2007, 06:10 PM
Hi all,
Just another quick battery question... While I know on my Jasjam that having the Wifi switched on drains the battery like no tomorrow, was wondering how long the battery on the Tytn II / Kaiser lasts with Wifi. Is it similar a similar length of time to the Tytn / Jasjam?
A friend is looking at getting it, but has said that he will be using Wifi almost all the time.
Penske MB
07-10-2007, 08:33 PM
Does AT&T's Tilt and 8525 share the same battery? or just like TyTN and Kaiser using different battery??
jomo25
07-10-2007, 10:02 PM
Does AT&T's Tilt and 8525 share the same battery? or just like TyTN and Kaiser using different battery??
No, they are different batteries.
Imanoltxo
07-10-2007, 10:47 PM
Here is one post that helps adding 3G button into the commManager... to switch on/off the UMTS connection.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1543416&postcount=23
Hello. I can see that without 3g the batterie go better.
Thanks to all for your help.
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