[UPDATED] Tilt keyboard fix - Download here

[TaurusBullba]

I've updated the Tilt keyboard fix to address the apparent issue with the Smartdialer keys also being incorrectly mapped when flashing a non AT&T ROM onto the Tilt. This will also fix the FN character issues being incorrectly mapped too.

This was tested on a Tilt flashed with the (current) HTC ROM and worked perfectly.


Install -> Soft Reset

Enjoy! :)


IMPORTANT:

Some people have reported that this cab didn't fix their Smartdialer issue. It's important that you uninstall the older cab that was posted here (if you even installed it), then soft reset. Then install the new one and soft reset one more time. That should do it.

Do not unzip/decompress this .cab file on your desktop and move the files over to your device. It won't work. You need to copy the .cab (as is) onto your device and tap to install.

[stress1ner]

Great job thx.

[dweinstock]

Thanks! :)

[roameo]

This is great! Any tips on how to accomplish the reverse...if someone say, wanted to put the Tilt ROM on their Kaiser?

[pof]

This is great! Any tips on how to accomplish the reverse...if someone say, wanted to put the Tilt ROM on their Kaiser?

Remove the registry key and soft-reset.

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\HARDWARE\DEVICEMAP\KEYBD]
"CWSLayout"=dword:00000001

[TaurusBullba]

This is great! Any tips on how to accomplish the reverse...if someone say, wanted to put the Tilt ROM on their Kaiser?

You "should" be able to just navigate to:

HKLM\HARDWARE\DEVICEMAP\KEYBD and delete CWSLayout, then soft-reset.

EDIT: Dang, Pof beat me to it. :)

[roameo]

Awesome. Thanks guys!

[reitjam]

i got the tilt at 12 today and took it home and startedripping it apart, I put the htc rom on with msvc 1.6, live search, the nice battery icon and the home plug-in customizer, thats it, on my hermes i needed so maney things to make it function, i like the tilt now that the keyboard is fixed.

damn i can not edit the title, well crap

[gregross]

This was created by myself and sirsycho. This will fix the FN character issues when flashing a non-ATT carrier ROM on the Tilt.

Install -> Soft Reset

Enjoy!


What exactly does it do?

Thanks,

g

[TaurusBullba]

What exactly does it do?

Thanks,

g

When you flash the HTC ROM (or any non-ATT ROM) onto the ATT Tilt, some of the alternate (FN) characters on the keyboard are mapped incorrectly. This fixes that.

[gregross]

When you flash the HTC ROM (or any non-ATT ROM) onto the ATT Tilt, some of the alternate (FN) characters on the keyboard are mapped incorrectly. This fixes that.

oh ok - thanks. Is that a registry update?

Was curious becuase i couldn't find and "...\qwerty" entries in the registry.

[TaurusBullba]

oh ok - thanks. Is that a registry update?

Was curious becuase i couldn't find and "...\qwerty" entries in the registry.


It is a registry entry. I was originally looking for the same "qwerty" entry (like in the 8525), but instead the following was the culprit:


[HKLM\HARDWARE\DEVICEMAP\KEYBD]
create - CWSLayout - value (1)


:)

[gregross]

It is a registry entry. I was originally looking for the same "qwerty" entry (like in the 8525), but instead the following was the culprit:


[HKLM\HARDWARE\DEVICEMAP\KEYBD]
create - CWSLayout - value (1)


:)

ahhh - i have a feeling there will be many registry differences from 8525 to 8925....

Thanks for the knowledge

[robroth]

i got the tilt at 12 today and took it home and startedripping it apart, I put the htc rom on with msvc 1.6, live search, the nice battery icon and the home plug-in customizer, thats it, on my hermes i needed so maney things to make it function, i like the tilt now that the keyboard is fixed.

damn i can not edit the title, well crap

which HTC rom did you put on it? Got a link to it? I think it's time to de-ATT mine.

[TaurusBullba]

which HTC rom did you put on it? Got a link to it? I think it's time to de-ATT mine.

Not hard to find, it's stickied (http://rapidshare.com/files/57816419/RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_1.56.405.5_radio_sign_22.45.88. 07_1.27.12.11_Ship.rar.html) in this forum. ;)

[robroth]

Not hard to find, it's stickied (http://rapidshare.com/files/57816419/RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_1.56.405.5_radio_sign_22.45.88. 07_1.27.12.11_Ship.rar.html) in this forum. ;)

Already downloaded that one, but I just wanted to make sure that's the one to use on the 8925. Better safe than sorry with something so new :).

[bigthingspoppin215]

How do I install this?It keeps showing up as a xml file that opens the web browser

[TaurusBullba]

How do I install this?It keeps showing up as a xml file that opens the web browser

You're trying to install it from your computer, don't. Move it over to your phone using activesync then tap to install. :)

[robroth]

How do I install this?It keeps showing up as a xml file that opens the web browser

its a cab file, try right clicking and save/as. stick it on your PPC and then run the cab. it worked fine here.

[thomassster]

I have a bit of an issue when on phone mode. This fixes the FN issue, but doesn't fix the caps issue when on the phone mode. I'm trying to search for a name and the W is a Q, T is a V, there is no S, D is a F, and so on...

[sstrunks84]

i'm having the same issue and while it's not too big of a deal with me, it still bothers me

[samkhazary]

thankssssssssssssss

[cirion]

I dont have the Tilt, I have the HTC TyTnII Norwegian model.

Fn Mappings are all wrong, and this fix for the Tilt does not work :( Well, the mappings change, but it is still wrong...

Anyone have any idea on how to fix it?

[cirion]

Found it! For those with HTC TyTn II with Norwegian char set on the keyboard, don't install this patch! If you already have, just remove the registry setting it added.

Use a registry editor like PHM Registry Editor and change the following:
Hardware\Devicemap\Keybd\CurLang to 1044

This should work on other Kaiser models too but you will have to find the correct CurLang setting either by guessing, or like I did, I was lucky enough to have a friend who wanted me to flash his phone and I found the setting in his registry before flashing.

[stinger32]

Found it! For those with HTC TyTn II with Norwegian char set on the keyboard, don't install this patch! If you already have, just remove the registry setting it added.

Use a registry editor like PHM Registry Editor and change the following:
Hardware\Devicemap\Keybd\CurLang to 1044

This should work on other Kaiser models too but you will have to find the correct CurLang setting either by guessing, or like I did, I was lucky enough to have a friend who wanted me to flash his phone and I found the setting in his registry before flashing.

HMM that didnt work for me

[TaurusBullba]

Smartdialer problem fixed. Check the first post for updated .cab

Just be sure to uninstall the old one first. :)

[ecltech]

TarusBullba,
Thanks for the fix... works great. :)

[austinsnyc]

Thanks Big Bull!! Don't have a Tilt but I'm sure lots of people are happy campers now becasue of this.

[skola28]

Smartdialer problem fixed. Check the first post for updated .cab

Just be sure to uninstall the old one first. :)

Taurus, you the man...

[lewcamino]

I have to ask; Why the drastic size increase?

Original = 1.04 KB
New = 21.6 KB

Later, Lew

[sstrunks84]

hey, just wanted to say thanks for being so helpful to the community. cheers!

[thomassster]

wow...fixed my speed dialer problem. thank you so much taurus.

[Doug2873]

Thanks again for this fix taurus, did a soft reset and worked like a charm

[TaurusBullba]

Glad to be of service guys. :)

[sirooga]

much appreciated...this is the first phone i've done stuff like this to and i would have long ago given up if it wasnt for the people like you in these forums.

[chenga]

Found it! For those with HTC TyTn II with Norwegian char set on the keyboard

Use a registry editor like PHM Registry Editor and change the following:
Hardware\Devicemap\Keybd\CurLang to 1044

I just wanted to add that Chinese Traditional (Taiwan) has a value of 404 for this registry key if anyone else is flashing a Kaiser from CHT to English.

[tomX2]

IMPORTANT - It's important that you uninstall the older cab first, then soft reset. Then install the new one and soft reset one more time. That should do it.


would someone be so kind as to help me with what cab (or registry value?) that i need to uninstall?

this is what i have:
[HKLM\HARDWARE\DEVICEMAP\KEYBD]
CalVKey
ContLessVKey
ContMoreVKey
CurLang
DriverName
FirstCalibration
TaskManVKey

Tilt flashed to...
ROM: RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_1.56.405.5_radio_sign_22.45.88. 07_1.27.12.11_Ship.exe

[TaurusBullba]

would someone be so kind as to help me with what cab (or registry value?) that i need to uninstall?

this is what i have:
[HKLM\HARDWARE\DEVICEMAP\KEYBD]
CalVKey
ContLessVKey
ContMoreVKey
CurLang
DriverName
FirstCalibration
TaskManVKey

Tilt flashed to...
ROM: RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_1.56.405.5_radio_sign_22.45.88. 07_1.27.12.11_Ship.exe

I was just referring to a previous cab that I posted in this thread. It didn't include the smartdialer fix. So, if you didn't install the older Tilt Keyboard Fix that was first posted, there's nothing to uninstall or edit.

[tomX2]

thanks for the reply. it worked like a charm! really appreciate your efforts.

[yocheckit]

thank you!

[turtle2472]

Just to add in, thanks so much for posting this fix!

[keitai]

Ok so I transfered this via activesync and tapped the xml, then it just opens the browser. What am i doing wrong?

[TaurusBullba]

Ok so I transfered this via activesync and tapped the xml, then it just opens the browser. What am i doing wrong?

It sounds like you're decompressing the .cab on your desktop and moving the files over to your Tilt. Don't do that. Move the .cab over as-is and tap it to install,once on the device.

[keitai]

Ah ok gotcha! thanks!

[ForeverRunin]

Thanks so much for all your hard work.. Newbie here succesfully just installed Kaiser Hard Spl followed by a flash of the HTC rom and now finally figured ... lol after realizing not to unzip fule on comp..out how to use this cab all is well so far stable for about 20 minutes ...gonna tinker with it all night long.... Again many THANKS ... you guys are all unbelievable... im gonna have to donate to you and pof and a few others that have made this possible this month when i get my paycheck..

Again thanks ...lol took my tilt and turned it into a real tytn II !!!!

[TaurusBullba]

Read 2 posts above yours. ;)

[Doug2873]

someone should get the mods to sticky this also...

[Catala1999]

Somebody know why with "Letter Fn+Space" doesn't change the caracters. I have to put accents. In my 8525 was working.
Thanks

[electrocorp]

Just got an AT&T Tytn II from the states & I am in Australia. I have loaded the three htc rom & all works except the function key mapping is wrong.

**updated**

Just loaded the key fix above & worked perfectly,

Thanks!

[saulo866]

I have the opposite issue: I have HTC and flashed with ATT ROM
Now key mapping is uncorrect, but your cab cannot work, since it is done for ATT devices!

I did the upgrade to ATT ROM simply because I needed Radio 1.12.14 to fix the known problem of "kaiser freezing after a call"

Now the freezing problem is gone! I am happy.

But I now have a HTC device and ATT ROM. The mapping of keys is uncorrect:

I have tried your cab: it does not improve/

I have tried to tweak the registry, implementing the french key mapping, the key English mapping, the Chinese key mapping, which I found in another thread.

Even after resetting Kaiser KEEPS the current mapping: when I press FN+Q I receive a "!" instead of "@"
Viceversa, if I press FN+W I receive a "@" instead of "!"

If I press FN+Sym I CANNOT receive the symbol list, as before upgrade!

Please help

[Doug2873]

I have the opposite issue: I have HTC and flashed with ATT ROM
Now key mapping is uncorrect, but your cab cannot work, since it is done for ATT devices!

I did the upgrade to ATT ROM simply because I needed Radio 1.12.14 to fix the known problem of "kaiser freezing after a call"

Now the freezing problem is gone! I am happy.

But I now have a HTC device and ATT ROM. The mapping of keys is uncorrect:

I have tried your cab: it does not improve/

I have tried to tweak the registry, implementing the french key mapping, the key English mapping, the Chinese key mapping, which I found in another thread.

Even after resetting Kaiser KEEPS the current mapping: when I press FN+Q I receive a "!" instead of "@"
Viceversa, if I press FN+W I receive a "@" instead of "!"

If I press FN+Sym I CANNOT receive the symbol list, as before upgrade!

Please help

geez, read this damn thread...like the 4th post down pof explains how to do what youre asking...

[chichoas]

Somebody know why with "Letter Fn+Space" doesn't change the caracters. I have to put accents. In my 8525 was working.
Thanks

I can´t get the punctuated characters...
With this cab (tilt keyboard fix) it doesnt work "Letter Fn+Space".

Please, any sugestion?

[technod]

Im using Fixed Dutty's TouchFlo Rom 2 Final on my tilt.
My "End Call" key is not working properly...

Any solution would be highly appreciated...

Regards...

[maiahsdad]

I don't know if this has been covered cerning the Fn button. But when I used to press the Fn + Sym tab, I could get the symbols that I needed. Now, it just brings up the keyboard.

If the keyboard fix cab was supposed to fix that, I was unsuccessful. If I'm doing something wrong or accidentally disabled the function somehow, would someone please help me get back on track?

Thanks so much...

[Ramzay]

I am so new to Tilt. Could somebody prime me on how to:
1. install CAB
2. uninstall CAB
3. do "soft reset"
4. do "hard reset"?

Thanks.

[str202]

First, I would like to say I already search for this but came up empty. My question is, I want to get the Tilt but I do not want to sign up for the $39 data plan to use free Wifi. If I load the OEM Rom on this phone will it enable me to access free Wife where ever it is available without signing up for a data plan from AT&T?

Thanks.

[turtle2472]

First, I would like to say I already search for this but came up empty. My question is, I want to get the Tilt but I do not want to sign up for the $39 data plan to use free Wifi. If I load the OEM Rom on this phone will it enable me to access free Wife where ever it is available without signing up for a data plan from AT&T?

Thanks.

First off, why ask that question in this thread? It has nothing to do with the keyboard fix.

Secondly, You don't need to flash you phone so it will only use WiFi and not at&t. Disable the data connection and you'll be fine.

[str202]

First off, why ask that question in this thread? It has nothing to do with the keyboard fix.

Secondly, You don't need to flash you phone so it will only use WiFi and not at&t. Disable the data connection and you'll be fine.

Sorry for posting in the wrong thread. I have been clicking on links after links and they keep taking me to other links. I was not certain as to what thread I was posting in. But since I have already posted here can you give me a little bit more info about this disabling the data connection. I call at&t and they told me I will not be able to use the free wifi unless I sign up the the data plan. This has been the only reason preventing me from buying this phone.

Thanks.

[turtle2472]

Check you're PMs. :)

[ilordvader]

Sorry for posting in the wrong thread. I have been clicking on links after links and they keep taking me to other links. I was not certain as to what thread I was posting in. But since I have already posted here can you give me a little bit more info about this disabling the data connection. I call at&t and they told me I will not be able to use the free wifi unless I sign up the the data plan. This has been the only reason preventing me from buying this phone.

Thanks.

My Cousin has the Tilt & did not get the monthly data plan
& was useing his home wifi & latter got a bill for $600

& he had to sign up Minium data plan thats $20 per month
& was credit his money to his a/c so still had to pay
but will be adjusted per month in his a/c

It seems like AT&T is a big Bully, but we cant do shit about it

[str202]

turtle2472, thanks for the info. I will know buy one and cross my finger that this will work. Thanks to everyone else for his or her inputs.

[laaban]

Found it! For those with HTC TyTn II with Norwegian char set on the keyboard, don't install this patch! If you already have, just remove the registry setting it added.

Use a registry editor like PHM Registry Editor and change the following:
Hardware\Devicemap\Keybd\CurLang to 1044

This should work on other Kaiser models too but you will have to find the correct CurLang setting either by guessing, or like I did, I was lucky enough to have a friend who wanted me to flash his phone and I found the setting in his registry before flashing.

This did the trick - thanks!
All the language codes can be found here:
http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/reference/winxp/xp-lcid.mspx

[stainlesspc]

I have a tilt from AT&T and flashed to the HTC rom
ROM 1.56.405.5 Protocal 22.45.88.07H Radio 1.27.12.11
I tried both without and with the "Tilt keyboard fix.cab"
with it installed my function keys when expanded are screwy :)
Key layout
QWERTYUIOP
ASDFGHJKL
ZXCVBNM
.
with function key should be
!@?/*123()
_;:-+456&
' "=#789
0,

what I get is
@!?/123()
_"%-+456=
'&:*789
SYM does nothing $ gets Sym popup 0,


Wifi key gets File manager.


Hope this in understandable.

So now how do I fix it ??

[stainlesspc]

I can open and edit the xml file
I just need the codes so I know what I am looking at.

[cucchiarellid]

Hi dears,
I have a Tilt with inside an HTC rom....
I have installed the fix and the Fn function of the keyboard is ok now..but the fn function of "Sym OK" doesn't work now.
Only this button has this problem.
Is there someone who know the solution?

Thanks a lot and regards
Daniele

[deviusdragger]

You guys must be doing some weird stuff with the cab or loading it wrong. i loaded mine up into my tilt running duttys v3 and everything worked just fine.

[santiargy]

I can´t get the punctuated characters...
With this cab (tilt keyboard fix) it doesnt work "Letter Fn+Space".

Please, any sugestion?
Same issue here. Fn+Space doesn't get me anything but a space. Any solutions?

[santiargy]

++++****++++

[juanwen]

sorry,.. but i'm noob here.... i just unlock de CID using kaiser-HardSPLv1 as i read yesterday an put the ROM RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_1.56.405.5_radio_sign_22.45.88. 07_1.27.12.11_Ship

everithing is fine.. and i have the problm with the key FN soo i tryed to move the fix key file to the mobile. but nothing happend....

where i need to put it? anywhere? how i star the installation? how i unistall the old one???

i'm totally lost.... plz... help wit a guide or tell me the steps...

[juanwen]

aaammm,.. do some one have a ROM or cooked ROM wit the FN key fixed????
tooo make my life more easy xD ??? i'm getting streeeessssed...

[santiargy]

sorry,.. but i'm noob here.... i just unlock de CID using kaiser-HardSPLv1 as i read yesterday an put the ROM RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_1.56.405.5_radio_sign_22.45.88. 07_1.27.12.11_Ship

everithing is fine.. and i have the problm with the key FN soo i tryed to move the fix key file to the mobile. but nothing happend....

where i need to put it? anywhere? how i star the installation? how i unistall the old one???

i'm totally lost.... plz... help wit a guide or tell me the steps...

Couple of things: you have to copy the fix in a folder in your device. Then with the file explorer, find it, and click on it (on your device, not on your PC). This will install the cab.

After that, you have to choose in Advanced Config or Kaiser Tweak, the appropriate keyboard layout for your device (i.e., Tilt, HTC, etc).

BTW, if you happen to have a Tilt, the keyboard will work fine with the exception of one thing: the Fn+Space combination won't work. Have been trying to get an answer but nobody has responded so far.

[juanwen]

Couple of things: you have to copy the fix in a folder in your device. Then with the file explorer, find it, and click on it (on your device, not on your PC). This will install the cab.

After that, you have to choose in Advanced Config or Kaiser Tweak, the appropriate keyboard layout for your device (i.e., Tilt, HTC, etc).

BTW, if you happen to have a Tilt, the keyboard will work fine with the exception of one thing: the Fn+Space combination won't work. Have been trying to get an answer but nobody has responded so far.


Thx,.. i have done installing the .CAB but the note said that the progrm that i intall is esigned for a previous version of WinMobile

waht i'm doing wrong??? or the fix.cab is wrong/? =/ where is the advance config? and wat tweak you u recomend me???

[santiargy]

Thx,.. i have done installing the .CAB but the note said that the progrm that i intall is esigned for a previous version of WinMobile

waht i'm doing wrong??? or the fix.cab is wrong/? =/ where is the advance config? and wat tweak you u recomend me???

I got the same message. Probably bc' fix was written for WM 5.0.

There are a couple of small programs that allow you to easily/safely tweak your device by making changes to the registry.

I've attached Schap's Adavance Config. Copy it to your device just like you did with the fix. Run it. And go to Keyboard and then select the one that applies to your device layout.

[juanwen]

I got the same message. Probably bc' fix was written for WM 5.0.

There are a couple of small programs that allow you to easily/safely tweak your device by making changes to the registry.

I've attached Schap's Adavance Config. Copy it to your device just like you did with the fix. Run it. And go to Keyboard and then select the one that applies to your device layout.

how is performance of your kaiser with the rom that you're using...?

[santiargy]

how is performance of your kaiser with the rom that you're using...?

Schap's has one of the best ROM's. I've only had problems with the keyboard. Other than that, it's very stable and smooth performance. Others have a different set of applications, but you can over time play with those, adding the ones you like.

[libove]

Thanks to everyone for sharing in this thread. I now feel confident that, if I buy either a Tilt or a Kaiser, I can make it jump through pretty much any hoop!

My question is, what is the benefit of flashing a Tilt with a Kaiser ROM? (Is it necessary to flash the ROM in order to undisable HSDPA?)

I'm still deciding whether to get a Tilt or a Kaiser. The Kaisers are a bit more expensive at the moment. (Before anyone points out that a Tilt with a contract is relatively cheap, please note that I need the device unlocked for use on T-Mobile in the US and various carriers in Europe, all on their own SIMs, so I have to pay market prices to get an unlocked device).

Thanks,
-Jay

[Megavvolt]

Is it possible to add this fix as an OEM package to add it to a ROM being cooked with Alex's Kaiser ROM Kitchen?

[tex_tech_monk]

Thanks!!!:)

[peterfnet]

I'm having a weird issue. Don't know if it's due to this install, so I'll throw it out here before I thread it up

I'm having a weird problem when I type fast. Everything comes out is in order except for the space character. it comes one character too late.

My text ends up looking like this

Ia mt ryingt ot ypea s entance

[bryangauvin]

Im having the same spacing issues

[grizzlymint]

Same spacing issues. Also the Fn does not work with the Tilts number pad. Everything worked fine with 6.0, I noticed the problem after I flashed Dutty's 6.1

[pjbongco]

You guys must be doing some weird stuff with the cab or loading it wrong. i loaded mine up into my tilt running duttys v3 and everything worked just fine.

Hello Gentlemen! Pardon my ignorance but im just new here. I recently obtained an AT&T Tilt and would like to flash the HTC Rom. Can you please assist me where will I get the best/most compatible HTC Rom for the Tilt? I will really appreciate if tou can post the link including the fix for the keyboard for easy downloading. I understand the keyboard for the Tilt has a different lay-out from the HTC TyTNII.

Incidentally, any idea if after flashing the HTC Rom the Tilt will now have now have the video call option normally found in the dial pad of an HTC TyTN II? I just noticed that the dial pad of Tilt has no video call option. I usually use the video call option of my Dopod 383pro here in the Philippines.

Thanks a lot in advance!

[gaiden]

Same spacing issues. Also the Fn does not work with the Tilts number pad. Everything worked fine with 6.0, I noticed the problem after I flashed Dutty's 6.1

i have a HTC and flashed dutty's 6.1, Rom is great got problem with the FN. seems it map all the fn characters all wrong.. when in typing (sms) mode the fn numbers are all wrong but in the dialing mode i pressed the fn numbers it all good??? any body having he same issue?

[aznlovefool]

thx for the cab it work like a charm.

[SCSweeps]

has anyone been having trouble with the backspace button? Every now and then it will delete the character in front of it instead of the one behind it even though the function key has only been pressed once.

[drewcopeland]

has anyone been having trouble with the backspace button? Every now and then it will delete the character in front of it instead of the one behind it even though the function key has only been pressed once.

having that problem too, the like fn is still active, even though it's not. Also, having problems with my space bar. it takes too long for the space to show up after I press it.

[aabose]

The upgrade went fine

But pressing 1 no longer gets me to VM. If I get a VM, I am able to get to VM by pressing the 'voicemail' prompt if get a voice message. Any idea how to fix this problem?

Another annoying problem is that my 'Contacts' are no longer available as an option to tie to a hard button. I had it mapped to the PTT button with the initial ROM.

Thanks

Amit

[Goanna]

I cant get this cab to install. I move it to my device, click on it, and nothing happens. I tried downloading again, thought maybe the download got corrupted somehow, and same thing, no install screen comes up, no changes to my device, etc. Anyone else having a problem installing it?

[santiargy]

Nope. No problems at all. Only issue I have is the mapping of the Fn+Space combination. Doesn't work at all... :(

Edit: Have you copied the cab file and then clicked on it on File Explorer?

[Goanna]

Yep, copied it over the storage card, clicked on it, nothing. Then I deleted it, downloaded a new copy, copied it to the main memory, browsed to it on the device, clicked and nothing happened again, lol.

[santiargy]

Yep, copied it over the storage card, clicked on it, nothing. Then I deleted it, downloaded a new copy, copied it to the main memory, browsed to it on the device, clicked and nothing happened again, lol.

Take a look at post 12/13 where they show what the cab does. You can do that yourself, directly working on the registry.

[santiargy]

The fix changes the layout to make it work for Tilt. But misses the Fn+Space combination. Weird...

[beta247]

Whoa... that fn keyboard mapping was driving me nutz..thanks for this. :)

[santiargy]

confirmed, the keyboard fix fixes the layout but kills one thing: the Fn+Space. When you install it, the Fn+Space combination stops working. That combination works before applying the fix.... I guess it's installing a layout that it's not 100% right.

[KRUPTD316]

I got reamed for asking a question the other day, so I have poured over every document i can find.. I've installed the cube rom works great just need the keyboard fix, copied it to my device and installed it...no change. Is there anywhere its supposed to be in the device?

[ceevee369]

the tilt keyborad fix does not fit the tytn II Uk version as other KB lay out.

i use currently Alex's v5.2 though keyboard Fn + wifi / fn + opendoc and fn+space doe not work.

is there a Tytn II layout Keyboard fix around. Could not find in the search pages :(

[wannan]

thaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaanx man

[santiargy]

Does anyone know how to change the layout on the Tilt Keyboard Fix? It's not 100% right. The Fn-Space key combination is not working...

[rapaholikz]

thankz..just what i needed..!:):):)

[morsti]

This did the trick - thanks!
All the language codes can be found here:
http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/reference/winxp/xp-lcid.mspx


I've changed the HKLM HARDWARE DEVICEMAP KEYBD CurLang value to 1044 but it didn't change the bad fn-problem at all. I've got a Norwegian TyTNII and Duttys ROM WM6.1 5.2.19209.

No good so far. My tilt keybord layout is still all wrong.

[crazysim]

Thanks for this. Appreciate it.

[jhapos_13]

thanks so much will give it a try.

[mytyb]

This works very well. Thanks.

[digitalextremes]

I have a tilt from AT&T and flashed to the HTC rom
ROM 1.56.405.5 Protocal 22.45.88.07H Radio 1.27.12.11
I tried both without and with the "Tilt keyboard fix.cab"
with it installed my function keys when expanded are screwy :)
Key layout
QWERTYUIOP
ASDFGHJKL
ZXCVBNM
.
with function key should be
!@?/*123()
_;:-+456&
' "=#789
0,

what I get is
@!?/123()
_"%-+456=
'&:*789
SYM does nothing $ gets Sym popup 0,


Wifi key gets File manager.


Hope this in understandable.

So now how do I fix it ??

I have the exact same isse, I flashed the AT&T Tile with this rom: RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_3.03.405.0_radio_sign_25.70.40. 02_1.64.06.04

the keys were messed up exactly how explaied above, I applied the keyboard fix but it didn't help.

Please let me know what to do, I can fix it manually in the registry or there is a different fix for the 8925?

[cc91222]

worked for me!

man i was like a crackhead! needed this fix! :p

[digitalextremes]

worked for me!

man i was like a crackhead! needed this fix! :p

what worked for you? the fix in this post?

I have a tilt and the rom I am installing that HTC made is for the kaiser.....so I need the fis to change the keyboard layout from kaiser to tilt (including the WiFi function button that the kaiser doesnt have)

Can you tell me which ROM you used?

[cc91222]

im using udk's rom and i have a tilt also

[neptyr]

To you who are trying to get the Norwegian keyboard to work, do this:

1: Open your fav register editor
2: Go to "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\HARDWARE\KEYBD\ "
3: Open "CurLang"
4: Change to decimal and enter 1044 as the value. (or you could try 414 in hexadesimal)

This works perfectly for me.
The FN+space is giving me a comma, the fn + wlan functions, aswell as the file explorer button :)

[leo76dragon]

I have a tilt from AT&T and flashed to the HTC rom
ROM 1.56.405.5 Protocal 22.45.88.07H Radio 1.27.12.11
I tried both without and with the "Tilt keyboard fix.cab"
with it installed my function keys when expanded are screwy :)
Key layout
QWERTYUIOP
ASDFGHJKL
ZXCVBNM
.
with function key should be
!@?/*123()
_;:-+456&
' "=#789
0,

what I get is
@!?/123()
_"%-+456=
'&:*789
SYM does nothing $ gets Sym popup 0,


Wifi key gets File manager.


Hope this in understandable.

So now how do I fix it ??




I have the same exact problem... any suggestions on how to fix this would be greatly appreciated... I applied the cab fix... still not working...

thanks
:)


'L26 WM6.1 PROV4 (3.51.502.0 WWE) Multimedia'
radio 1.58.16.27
ATT Tilt

[redbandana]

I have the same exact problem... any suggestions on how to fix this would be greatly appreciated... I applied the cab fix... still not working...

thanks
:)


'L26 WM6.1 PROV4 (3.51.502.0 WWE) Multimedia'
radio 1.58.16.27
ATT Tilt

you gotta do a soft reset after the install

[leo76dragon]

you gotta do a soft reset after the install

Mr Redbandana,

thank you... it worked... but I ended up going the long route just doing a hard reset... applied the fix again... and did the soft reset... and it worked.....


thanks
leo76dragon

'L26 WM6.1 PROV4 (3.51.502.0 WWE) Multimedia'
radio 1.58.16.27
ATT Tilt

[sheducerrr]

thanks a lot man..:)

[eugene159]

I have an AT&T Tilt flashed with English ROM WM6.1 from Dutty.
I've turned on Cyrillic (Russian) symbols by adding Hardware\Devicemap\Keybd\CurLang 0419(1049) to registry and installed Tilt Keyboard Fix. Everything works fine except $Tab key. In original Russian TYTNII with Russian ROM this key is used to swich Latin characters to Cyrillic and back. Now when I press this key keyboard switches to Russian and spaces appear (tab works). I don't need this tab for this key. Can I fix this by modifying the registry ?

[outlogic]

I have an AT&T Tilt flashed with English ROM WM6.1 from Dutty.
I've turned on Cyrillic (Russian) symbols by adding Hardware\Devicemap\Keybd\CurLang 0419(1049) to registry and installed Tilt Keyboard Fix. Everything works fine except $Tab key. In original Russian TYTNII with Russian ROM this key is used to swich Latin characters to Cyrillic and back. Now when I press this key keyboard switches to Russian and spaces appear (tab works). I don't need this tab for this key. Can I fix this by modifying the registry ?
I have exactly the same problem

[santiargy]

The HTC Rom's have a different keyboard layout than the Tilt, but the Fn+Space key combination works: it puts accents on letters, and cycles through characters. However, the layout is not 100% right, since many Fn keys are swapped (for example the "!" with the "@").

When you install the Tilt Keyboard Fix, all the keys show up in the right place but the Fn+Space combination disappears. Sounds like the Tilt keyboard is missing that one... It was working fine with my old Hermes, but on this one ATT must have screwed up.

There should be a way to modify the Tilt keyboard to add the Fn+Space... I'm just not smart enough to do it....:confused:

[bl117]

others have already said it, but thank you. works great on an ATT Tilt which i recieved today. Only booted it to wipe ATT's crap off it and and put a nice clean 6.1 rom on. ;)

[cushcalc]

The HTC Rom's have a different keyboard layout than the Tilt, but the Fn+Space key combination works: it puts accents on letters, and cycles through characters. However, the layout is not 100% right, since many Fn keys are swapped (for example the "!" with the "@").

When you install the Tilt Keyboard Fix, all the keys show up in the right place but the Fn+Space combination disappears. Sounds like the Tilt keyboard is missing that one... It was working fine with my old Hermes, but on this one ATT must have screwed up.

There should be a way to modify the Tilt keyboard to add the Fn+Space... I'm just not smart enough to do it....:confused:

Tilt has FN-OK for Symbols - does that not give you the characters and accents you need?

[lewcamino]

Tilt has FN-OK for Symbols - does that not give you the characters and accents you need?

They are referring to a slightly different functionality. If you had a Hermes (8525) maybe you noticed that you could type a forward slash then press fn then space and it would swap to a back slash. Well, that applied to a bunch of other characters as well. I too miss that fn+space...

I will look into it.

[deejaynyc]

I just wanted to say "Thanks." My Tilt, running the DCS 1.7 ROM, went off mysteriously, requiring a re-install of WM 6.1., The keyboard then was mapped incorrectly, and this fixed it perfectly.

Thanks again.

DJ

[peterpaulgumpal]

Hi, I'm very thankful with your great work! I was on the verge of despising my Tilt because of this wrongly mapped keys of the keyboard, you're a real hero! heheheh

By the way, when I did a soft reset on my device, it was looking for an "Activator.EXE" file that can't be found or opened (?). I did a lot of soft reset this morning and this didn't occur, it is only after installing the Cab file. Please help.

[santiargy]

Tilt has FN-OK for Symbols - does that not give you the characters and accents you need?

It's not the same. When you type in spanish or french or other languages you're constantly using accents, and other characters like "ç". It's impossible to go to Symbols and get the character from there. The way the HTC keyboard works is that you press Fn+key and it changes. For example the c changes into a ç, and the a into an á. The Tilt keyboard layout just kills the feature. If you don't install it, keyboard is all screwed up on the Fn keys, but at least you have access to the Fn-Space combination.

[Macsek]

It took me some days but this registry change finally solved it:

I changed the registry manually (two keys mentioned bellow), soft reset and it worked.
As a "side effect" sms TO: popup list works now as well.


Originally Posted by Bardia Garsha
Originally Posted by ProphetUser07
As far as I've been able to find out, this is caused by XT9 being enabled. I've disabled XT9 on my prophet which has successfully re-enabled word completion and also autocomplete when entering names in the To: field on messages. I've done this by changing the following registry entries and powering the device off and back on:

With XT9 Enabled I Had:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Layouts\e0010409]
"Ime File"="\windows\eT9Ime.dll"
"Layout Text"="eT9 IME"

With XT9 Disabled I Now Have:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Layouts\e0010409]
"Ime File"="\windows\compime.dll"
"Layout Text"="COMP IME"

*The last 3 digits of the registry key (ie 409) may vary depending on the language code used.

[santiargy]

It took me some days but this registry change finally solved it:

I changed the registry manually (two keys mentioned bellow), soft reset and it worked.
As a "side effect" sms TO: popup list works now as well.

This didn't do it for me. I'm stuck where I was. Two alternatives: the ATT Keyboard layout (the ATT keyboard doesn't have the Fn+Space key combination working) or a non ATT with most of the Fn keys mapped incorrectly, but the Fn+Space combination working.

[blessanjoseph]

Thanks a lot....

[CLShortFuse]

I have a problem, but to be honest, I'm not sure if it's because of the Tilt keyboard fix. The problem is that when you are typing a message and press space and then a character, if you don't pause before putting the character, the space will come late. I'm a quick typer so this can get really annoying. What would happen is something like this:
Instead of
The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog.
You'll get
Theq uickbr ownf oxju mpedov ert hel azyd og.

It happens on two phones already and can get annoying, both with non original AT&T firmware. I could go back to test, but I wanted to see if somebody else has this problem before I go about wiping my phone. I literally have to wait until the space appears on the screen before I can type another word.

[frank109]

wow thanks. i came on today looking for a keyboard fix and found it right off the back. ty much taurus

[santiargy]

Anyone figured out how to get the Fn+Space combination not working with the Tilt keyboard fix applied?

[broly]

I'm experiencing keyboard lag with my Tilt, anyone else?

[DaveShaw]

I'm experiencing keyboard lag with my Tilt, anyone else?

Try disabling xT9 (search for a cab, there are loads). Unless you use an xT9 sip.:)

Ta
Dave

[konminx60]

I have a problem, but to be honest, I'm not sure if it's because of the Tilt keyboard fix. The problem is that when you are typing a message and press space and then a character, if you don't pause before putting the character, the space will come late. I'm a quick typer so this can get really annoying. What would happen is something like this:
Instead of
The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog.
You'll get
Theq uickbr ownf oxju mpedov ert hel azyd og.

It happens on two phones already and can get annoying, both with non original AT&T firmware. I could go back to test, but I wanted to see if somebody else has this problem before I go about wiping my phone. I literally have to wait until the space appears on the screen before I can type another word.

it happens to me too. anyone has fix for this? i switch several roms, but this keep on happening :(

[TyJaMo]

Upgraded my rom to Dutty's WM6.1. And this cab fixed issues with the keyboard and fn keys!

Thanks man! You are an asset to XDA!

[eisenpat]

Where can I get this cab file to fix the problem?

[jordinho]

look at first post.

[santiargy]

I have been looking in the forum for a solution for the Tilt keyboard. Everytime I ask, someone usually responds pointing me to the Tilt Keyboard Fix cab.

However, installing that fix, results in the keyboard being mapped with the ATT layout, by enabling the CWS layout in the registry. This makes every key work as it should, but it kills the Fn+Space combination.

The Fn-Space key combination, typed after a character, changes it to others, as per what is defined in sym049.txt (or whatever symxxx.txt file you have in the windows directory).

For example, if you type an "a", press Fn+Space, you get an á, then à,â, etc. Same with all other characters. This, as you can imagine, is important for those that type in languages other than English, that require accents. And for those that want to use characters not in the keyboard often (like the Euro sign "€" or the british pound sign, "£", the ç, etc.).

I think the issue is with the CWS layout (CWS being Cingular/ATT). That layout doesn't have the Fn+Space in it. The Hermes keyboard had a blue "á" and "ü" written on the top left corner of the Space bar. The Tilt doesn't have those. In fact, if you install the original ATT Rom (no need for keyboard fix there), the Fn+Space combination doesn't work.

The only way I've seen to get Fn-Space back to life is NOT to use the CWS layout that comes from the ATT Keyboard Fix. Using any non ATT Rom will allow you to get Fn-Space, but at the cost of getting many of the other Fn keys mapped wrong. For example, the ! and the @ are swapped, the ; gives you a %, and so on.

Sounds like there should be a new keyboard layout that is 99% like the one resulting from the keybord fix (CWS layout) but that adds the Fn-Space combination to it.

Any suggestions?

[caderyn19]

I have a problem, but to be honest, I'm not sure if it's because of the Tilt keyboard fix. The problem is that when you are typing a message and press space and then a character, if you don't pause before putting the character, the space will come late. I'm a quick typer so this can get really annoying. What would happen is something like this:
Instead of
The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog.
You'll get
Theq uickbr ownf oxju mpedov ert hel azyd og.

It happens on two phones already and can get annoying, both with non original AT&T firmware. I could go back to test, but I wanted to see if somebody else has this problem before I go about wiping my phone. I literally have to wait until the space appears on the screen before I can type another word.

I'm having the same problem. It also makes my backspace key start with delete until i hit Fn+Delete. I had the _Alex_ TyTN II Keyboard Fix and that fixed the symbols, but not the lag. After adding the Disable xt9 cab it made my on-screen keyboard only type symbols and numbers unless I was on the stock keyboard. I uninstalled both and it stayed the same so I did a hard reset. Now I'm back to looking for a lag fix other than what I've tried.

[Travito]

I have this problem as well. It's not as bad if I don't install the fix, though at times it is still present. I can get past having to relearn symbol positions, but it would be nice to have a fix for the lag, as I'm unsure if it's just the keyboard fix causing it or a limitation of the tilt specific hardware.

[Anonymous09]

@Travito

updating hardspl fixed my lag issue

[Travito]

@Travito

updating hardspl fixed my lag issue

I'm running Jocky's 3.56

[axellink]

I'm running Jocky's 3.56

This lag is annoying since i'm also a fast typer as well.

EDIT: LOL the cab fixed it, very nice!

[scotchua]

I have a problem, but to be honest, I'm not sure if it's because of the Tilt keyboard fix. The problem is that when you are typing a message and press space and then a character, if you don't pause before putting the character, the space will come late. I'm a quick typer so this can get really annoying. What would happen is something like this:
Instead of
The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog.
You'll get
Theq uickbr ownf oxju mpedov ert hel azyd og.

It happens on two phones already and can get annoying, both with non original AT&T firmware. I could go back to test, but I wanted to see if somebody else has this problem before I go about wiping my phone. I literally have to wait until the space appears on the screen before I can type another word.

Do any or all of the following to fix the lag issues:
Use Kaisertweaks to disable xt9
decrease the predicted words to zero
turn of autocorrect spelling

[chris247]

Does any of you have the problem that fn+space command is not working in Pocket Informant (and only in this app, for the others it is fine). This happens in the note section of every items, when you have more than about 10 lines of text.

[Mike7801]

I'm having keyboard issues with all Diamond ROM's, I'm currently using L26 V9 and I've tried countless times with this cab with no correction to the keyboard. Is anyone else having this problem with the Tilt? Is there a solution or another key config. cab?

[santiargy]

Unfortunately, my happiness was short lived... I installed, and as I was expecting, all the Fn characters work perfect. All but one: the Fn+Space. So we're still unable to have the Tilt layout and the Fn+Space working at the same time. Sounds like the mapping of the keys needs to be adjusted to include that.

I've updated the Tilt keyboard fix to address the apparent issue with the Smartdialer keys also being incorrectly mapped when flashing a non AT&T ROM onto the Tilt. This will also fix the FN character issues being incorrectly mapped too.

This was tested on a Tilt flashed with the (current) HTC ROM and worked perfectly.


Install -> Soft Reset

Enjoy! :)


IMPORTANT:

Some people have reported that this cab didn't fix their Smartdialer issue. It's important that you uninstall the older cab that was posted here (if you even installed it), then soft reset. Then install the new one and soft reset one more time. That should do it.

Do not unzip/decompress this .cab file on your desktop and move the files over to your device. It won't work. You need to copy the .cab (as is) onto your device and tap to install.

[im2slpy]

thanks, this have fixed my keyboard issue.. at least for texting.. not sure what the others are having issues with yet..

[GURUGTS]

Not sure if any of you have experienced the backspace key not working when composing an Email. I'm using Dutty's 1.4 Diamond and everything works so far except the backspace key. I press it and nothing happens unless i push FN+Backspace once then it will work after that but just for that session. I misplaced my sync cable so I will test this cab and let you guys know once I have a verdict.

UPDATE
Fixed Backspace Issue

[police22]

Just wanted to say thanks so much for this fix. I have been wondering if there was a fix for this and here it is.. I have dutty's rom installed and had to always hunt and find the fn keys..

Works like a charm...;)

Thanks again;)

[aurfawce]

Anyone figure out any fix for the lag on the Tilt Keyboard?

[veyron3]

Anyone figure out any fix for the lag on the Tilt Keyboard?

An Excellent Question



Answer:confused::confused::confused::confused::con fused:

[btercero333]

The file fixed my problem! Great work man!

[aurfawce]

It fixed your keyboard lag?

[Snowreaper]

Thanks! Worked for me on L26 V10. Tried Alex's fix and no go but this one worked. Haven't seen any keyboard lag yet either.

[12345a]

Great help, tks.
It's very annoying me and now it fixed.

[cushcalc]

It's not the same. When you type in spanish or french or other languages you're constantly using accents, and other characters like "ç". It's impossible to go to Symbols and get the character from there. The way the HTC keyboard works is that you press Fn+key and it changes. For example the c changes into a ç, and the a into an á. The Tilt keyboard layout just kills the feature. If you don't install it, keyboard is all screwed up on the Fn keys, but at least you have access to the Fn-Space combination.

I realize it's 3 months later now, and maybe you've found a fix, but I don't see any fix in this thread . . . here is a very nice workaround, if you're willing to spend a few bucks for a small program called MagicKBLite - it allows you to assign up to 4 extra characters to each key, and cycle through them as you hold down a particular key.

Attached is the program, my 8925.lay keyboard layout, and instructions. You can try for 7 days, then purchase from http://www.mobiion.com/magikblite.html for $14.95 if you wish.

I have no affiliation with this company or reward for promoting it - I just use it myself and like how it works.

[santiargy]

I realize it's 3 months later now, and maybe you've found a fix, but I don't see any fix in this thread . . . here is a very nice workaround, if you're willing to spend a few bucks for a small program called MagicKBLite - it allows you to assign any number of characters to each key, and cycle through them as you hold down a particular key.

Attached is the program, my 8925.lay keyboard layout, and instructions. You can try for 7 days, then purchase from http://www.mobiion.com/magikblite.html for $14.95 if you wish.

I have no affiliation with this company or reward for promoting it - I just use it myself and like how it works.

Thanks. Nobody had looked at this and nobody seems to care either. It's weird... I would think that there should be a quick fix related to overlaying a new layout. But I'm not knowledgeable enough to figure that out myself.

[cushcalc]

Thanks. Nobody had looked at this and nobody seems to care either. It's weird... I would think that there should be a quick fix related to overlaying a new layout. But I'm not knowledgeable enough to figure that out myself.

Well, I think it may actually be a hardware limitation of the Tilt as specified by AT&T. Just like they deleted the front cam. They may think us dumb ugly Americans just don't need to ever deal with another language, and their market for the Tilt is the good old US of A.

[santiargy]

Well, I think it may actually be a hardware limitation of the Tilt as specified by AT&T. Just like they deleted the front cam. They may think us dumb ugly Americans just don't need to ever deal with another language, and their market for the Tilt is the good old US of A.

I think it's a software issue. I had it working but for that to happen, the layout needs to be different from the AT&T one. But that means most of the fn key combinations get screwed up.

[Draconis68]

I've updated the Tilt keyboard fix to address the apparent issue with the Smartdialer keys also being incorrectly mapped when flashing a non AT&T ROM onto the Tilt. This will also fix the FN character issues being incorrectly mapped too.

This was tested on a Tilt flashed with the (current) HTC ROM and worked perfectly.


Install -> Soft Reset

Enjoy! :)


IMPORTANT:

Some people have reported that this cab didn't fix their Smartdialer issue. It's important that you uninstall the older cab that was posted here (if you even installed it), then soft reset. Then install the new one and soft reset one more time. That should do it.

Do not unzip/decompress this .cab file on your desktop and move the files over to your device. It won't work. You need to copy the .cab (as is) onto your device and tap to install.

Thank you very much and sorry for the question.... but how do I install those file on my Tilt? :confused:


thanks for the help...

[aahmedoo]

thanks man

[J_Kirk]

All my keys work fine except Backspace/Del.. when Fn is pressed, this key doesn't nothing at all. Is that normal? Shouldn't it delete, as Del is written in blue on it?