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Zxurian
17-10-2007, 06:43 PM
Given that I believe the hardware as far as the touchscreen itself goes, are there any plans to try and migrate the TouchFlo / TouchFlo II ROM or application layer over so it'll work with the Mogul?

I love the Touch Flo's inteface, but there's no way I would ever give up my full keyboard.

snowman8
17-10-2007, 07:15 PM
You can find the touchflo application at this post

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334965&highlight=pcm+keyboard

Make sure to download a4, this is the most recent release. Also, read the entire first post before installation. I have the HTC 6800 (mogul) from sprint and I successfully installed this software this morning.

mrgeoff
17-10-2007, 08:32 PM
I have also installed A4 on my mogul. It is running great! I modified the config file a tiny to give a longer delay and to add SSContact.

jpshook
17-10-2007, 11:38 PM
I can get the touch scrolling to work but still cannot figure out the cube. I can access the audio manager and the home screen (with tabs) but do not see any of the other full screen touch menus or animations.

I have installed the following files:

FTouchFlo_a4.CAB
HomePlugin WM6.cab
HTC_Audio_Manager.cab
HTC_Audio_Manager_Today_Plugin.cab
JT ButtonFlo.cab
Touch Flo (Alpha).cab
Touch Settings v1.22.CAB

I changed the registry key so that audio manager is the music player and also deleted the bio.lnk and mediahub.lnk from the windows/startup. I even went as far as to copy .brn files to make sure they were there. Even Touch settings is working fine.. BUT any time I slide LR or click the button I get the stupid black screen. (WTF, it is killing me!)

Has anyone figured this out on Sprint Mogul???

mrgeoff
18-10-2007, 01:18 AM
I didn't try too hard on the cube because I couldn't get the gestures to work. Maybe this is something that will be improved in later versions.

primenall
18-10-2007, 01:30 AM
I can get the touch scrolling to work but still cannot figure out the cube. I can access the audio manager and the home screen (with tabs) but do not see any of the other full screen touch menus or animations.

I have installed the following files:

FTouchFlo_a4.CAB
HomePlugin WM6.cab
HTC_Audio_Manager.cab
HTC_Audio_Manager_Today_Plugin.cab
JT ButtonFlo.cab
Touch Flo (Alpha).cab
Touch Settings v1.22.CAB

I changed the registry key so that audio manager is the music player and also deleted the bio.lnk and mediahub.lnk from the windows/startup. I even went as far as to copy .brn files to make sure they were there. Even Touch settings is working fine.. BUT any time I slide LR or click the button I get the stupid black screen. (WTF, it is killing me!)

Has anyone figured this out on Sprint Mogul???


Well this Flash version of the Touchflo 3D Cube it seems to work really well so far on my mogul, like I said it's not the real cube but it's really neat just the same.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=328010&highlight=ByKa+Cube+Launcher

jpshook
18-10-2007, 02:55 AM
Yeah, Byka's Flash version is cool, but it uses lots of system resources and just isn't quite the same.

Someone having the black screen issue has to have found a fix by now?

elgreek84
18-10-2007, 04:44 AM
I've tried the BYKA cube but it jsut looks tacky. It works great but I guess I just have a problem with the icons and the background. Slither is working on a cub which looks exaclty like the TOUCHCUBe but it still has a way, although he's working very diligently. I would love to see the original cube, hopefully some cab extracted in combination with the touchfloa4. That would be ideal.

ScottC
18-10-2007, 02:50 PM
I tried it yesterday and was not impressed. So I installed SPB Pocketplus V.4 which also has "touch" features and works much better to be honest...

wandrerx
18-10-2007, 05:12 PM
this is from my post in: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=333513

BEGIN

I got this working on my mogul (close to barebones w/o ext_rom) seemingly perfectly... I did it on a fresh hard hard reset because of some conflicting software and my remove programs list being blank (this is not related to anything with touchflo btw... so don't worry)... I mapped touchflo.exe (on Ftouchflo) to left-right(to make cube both initialize and rotate with my finger dragging left right) and it works like a charm! I also mapped up-down to efrost's minimize program(efrostminimize.exe) that I got from Slither's cube, this brings me back to the Today screen. Not sure what the "ns.exe" is for in your config files but it seems to be working fine for me so far following the instructions. I'm thinking with the mogul black screens there must be a conflicting software involved.

I only have:

HTC plugins + Audio/Comm Manager
Total Commander
TCPMP+FlashVideo
PHM_Reg
Memmaid
Palm Msging
Oxios
Slide 2 Unlock 2 0.53
Ftouchflo alpha 4
Adobe Flashlite 2.1

Edit: Be careful how fast you retry using finger swipes upon the initial initialization (from closed) as it will run two instances if the touchflo did not fully initialize yet. (they both load though... phew* still no black screen)

Edit 2: Remember, if you map left-right and use Slide 2 Unlock 2(S2U2), to exclude s2u2.exe in the Ftouchflo config.


will post if black screen comes up in the future

elgreek84
18-10-2007, 06:46 PM
I w as going to try this after midterms, how is it working? Is it pretty awesome? Is it worth it? does it bogg down your system? Are you afraid of installing other apps for fear of it "blacking out"? I'm very interested in the cube but it seems out of reach right now because of the bugs.
this is from my post in: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=333513

BEGIN

I got this working on my mogul (close to barebones w/o ext_rom) seemingly perfectly... I did it on a fresh hard hard reset because of some conflicting software and my remove programs list being blank (this is not related to anything with touchflo btw... so don't worry)... I mapped touchflo.exe (on Ftouchflo) to left-right(to make cube both initialize and rotate with my finger dragging left right) and it works like a charm! I also mapped up-down to efrost's minimize program(efrostminimize.exe) that I got from Slither's cube, this brings me back to the Today screen. Not sure what the "ns.exe" is for in your config files but it seems to be working fine for me so far following the instructions. I'm thinking with the mogul black screens there must be a conflicting software involved.

I only have:

HTC plugins + Audio/Comm Manager
Total Commander
TCPMP+FlashVideo
PHM_Reg
Memmaid
Palm Msging
Oxios
Slide 2 Unlock 2 0.53
Ftouchflo alpha 4
Adobe Flashlite 2.1

Edit: Be careful how fast you retry using finger swipes upon the initial initialization (from closed) as it will run two instances if the touchflo did not fully initialize yet. (they both load though... phew* still no black screen)

Edit 2: Remember, if you map left-right and use Slide 2 Unlock 2(S2U2), to exclude s2u2.exe in the Ftouchflo config.


will post if black screen comes up in the future

wandrerx
18-10-2007, 07:16 PM
it works fine... no real big load on system resources (it was designed for a slower processor actually). No, I'm not really afraid of installing other programs. I was just stating that it's obvious that all those people complaining about black screens have something that conflicts with the cube somehow (or they didn't install according to instructions). Most likely something that runs in the background...

jpshook
19-10-2007, 12:34 AM
wandrerx, how do you actually get the cube? What application does it get installed with?

Can you send links to the exact apps you are running that are minimum requirements for this to work?

wandrerx
19-10-2007, 06:02 PM
The original detailed instructions (by mikewtw) and files are in: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=333513

This is really just a summary of instructions and issues since it's getting messy there...

You need all the files from the original instructions:
TouchFlo.zip
AL_xx_Touch.zip
Touch Settings v1.22.CAB

Installation:

Prereq (To be installed first...):
HTC Home Plugin - I used the one from here... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=319308
HTC Audio Mgr - I got it from the touchflo.zip
HTC Audio Plugin - I got it from the touchflo.zip


Installation Process
1)Install "Touch Flo (Alpha).cab"
2)Install "JT Buttonflo.cab" (This is needed because it causes a script to run at startup which makes it actually work)
3)Install "Touch Settings v1.22.cab"
4)Delete "Mediahubmini.lnk" from "\windows\startup"
5)Unzip all of the files from "AL_xx_Touch.zip" to "\touch" (this step may not be needed but it was mentioned in the original post and I did it anyways)
6)Copy those "AL_xx_Touch.zip" files into "\windows"
7)Now might be a good time for a soft reset
8)Run "Touch Settings" from programs once but do not touch anything just yet... click on save option at the bottom" (this step apparently saves the icons you just installed so they'll appear... I think)
9)Soft reset

Touchflo is now installed you can either:

A) Map it to a button thus making it buttonflo

B) Install Ftouchflo Alpha 4 and use the touch screen to launch and rotate left to right (one way only currently)

If you decide to use Ftouchflo Alpha 4 I've enclosed:

"FTouchfloConfig.txt" - To be copied into "\Program Files\Ftouchflo_a4"...this also makes it compatible with s2u2
"efrostminimize.exe" (by efrost duh!) - To be copied into "\windows"

FTouchflo usage:
Using my config you can bring up the cube by swiping down-to-up (like the real one) or you can do the same going left to right. You can also minimize the cube by swiping up-to-down(via efrostminimize.exe)

Notes:
1)Upon initial run from either being closed or soft reset, try not to swipe it activated too much otherwise it will open twice. Once started swipe all you want. Of course you could just activate touchflo another way first.
2)Installing Touchflo alpha takes away HTC Home contacts
3)This does not seem to be a killable app via "memory"
4)I'm trying to figure out whether I can make some script to make it run smoother
5)Audio Mngr seems to be the only resource killer as it also loads into the cube
5)Yes it only goes one direction, this was a modified touchflo designed to work with buttons. As I said, this is the one we have to use till a cooked rom with the cube comes out.
6)This does not run on initial boot, you've got to either run it from Ftouchflo or "touch flo" in programs
7)If you run "Touch flo" without button mapped or "Ftouchflo"(configured for it) it will stay on the first screen
8)Can also be minimized by using the "red hangup button" (buttonflo-method as opposed to using my config for Ftouchflo)
9)Using HTC Home Plugin Customizer requires a soft-reset because it disables the Home Plugin temporarily
7)Icons not installed correctly is one very big cause of black screen
8)Conflicting programs may also be a reason for black screen as I did this all on a hard reset

Ftouchflo Alpha4
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334965

jbmoneys
19-10-2007, 11:03 PM
Followed these steps exactly. 3 attempts, 3 blackscreens. 0 fun. Guess we'll just have to wait for a rom...

dagger969
20-10-2007, 01:19 AM
Followed these steps exactly. 3 attempts, 3 blackscreens. 0 fun. Guess we'll just have to wait for a rom...

thats pretty humorous.

Ncruze
20-10-2007, 06:33 PM
Ive installed the touchflo a4, that's the most recent one. but what is touch flo alpha, does it go with the touch flo app I installed? what is the cube, was I suppose to install all three together? right now the app works fine but when im scrolling on the net it accelerates out of control. how do I slow it down? Please respond..

mprocto
22-10-2007, 08:42 PM
Ive installed the touchflo a4, that's the most recent one. but what is touch flo alpha, does it go with the touch flo app I installed? what is the cube, was I suppose to install all three together? right now the app works fine but when im scrolling on the net it accelerates out of control. how do I slow it down? Please respond..


dont get the a4 get touchflow v1.3 from the link below.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=338143

if you want a cube, I highly recommend slithers cube.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=336234

I have been using both of these programs and they work together flawlessly on the Mogul

mshnayde
22-10-2007, 10:22 PM
For anyone who has tried both.
I am currently running the HTC Home on mine and it works very well. Power consumption is normal. Good quick response. No complaints overall.
However, I am somewhat intrigued by the Cube and have been contemplating trying it out.
How is the CPU/Power consumption. Responsiveness. Stability? Thanks for your thoughts in advance.

Michael

crevans99
23-10-2007, 08:57 AM
I have tried both the Home plugin and the cube. If youuse the home plugin, do a search for the six tab "fixed" kaiser plugin. Fixes some memory leaks and has more functionality. The Cube here is very unstable and not too quick. I had to hard reset to get it to work, and it will not work with some other apps installed. For me, it would not work with SPB Pocket Plus. I would recommend getting the cube Slither has in development. It runs on flash, is quick, and does not seem to have compatibility issues.

Ncruze
23-10-2007, 09:06 AM
the touch flo works great throughout my files. but soon as I hit the net, scrolling the web pages is a hassle. the page accelerates out of control. CAN ANYONE TELL ME HOW TO SLOW IT DOWN???

efarmer
24-10-2007, 11:44 PM
New here but ran acros this app
is this more easy
http://www.touch-commander.com

lrosado
25-10-2007, 02:12 AM
tried the touch commander and it works pretty smooth, i like it

UGZILLA
05-11-2007, 09:24 AM
hey all,

I just wanted to thank you all for letting me join and the touchflo app that someone put on here was the main reason why I got this htc mogul.

Is the cube function on the htc touch part of this a4 as well, or just the sliding part?

Sorry if I sound excited but this thing has everything I need minus a little slow connection on internet.

Does anyone have any suggestions on other applications that are handy?

thanks again all!

Ugzilla

Ceger
10-11-2007, 10:48 PM
dont get the a4 get touchflow v1.3 from the link below.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=338143

if you want a cube, I highly recommend slithers cube.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=336234

I have been using both of these programs and they work together flawlessly on the Mogul

What is the difference? I have tried FTouchFlo 1.4.1 and a4 and neither does anything in terms of launching an app I associated to the down up action. I am trying to have it launch Touch Commander

Edit: I got it to work using 1.4.1. I missed the fact that I needed to disable scrolling. Question is, can I still use the scrolling feature? In FTouchFlo A4, you had a tiny icon to switch modes with, or could us a down-up-down gesture to change the mode. Does 1.4.1 have anything like this?

Ceger

EMale1965
02-12-2007, 08:49 PM
The original detailed instructions (by mikewtw) and files are in: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=333513

This is really just a summary of instructions and issues since it's getting messy there...

You need all the files from the original instructions:
TouchFlo.zip
AL_xx_Touch.zip
Touch Settings v1.22.CAB

Installation:

Prereq (To be installed first...):
HTC Home Plugin - I used the one from here... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=319308
HTC Audio Mgr - I got it from the touchflo.zip
HTC Audio Plugin - I got it from the touchflo.zip


Installation Process
1)Install "Touch Flo (Alpha).cab"
2)Install "JT Buttonflo.cab" (This is needed because it causes a script to run at startup which makes it actually work)
3)Install "Touch Settings v1.22.cab"
4)Delete "Mediahubmini.lnk" from "\windows\startup"
5)Unzip all of the files from "AL_xx_Touch.zip" to "\touch" (this step may not be needed but it was mentioned in the original post and I did it anyways)
6)Copy those "AL_xx_Touch.zip" files into "\windows"
7)Now might be a good time for a soft reset
8)Run "Touch Settings" from programs once but do not touch anything just yet... click on save option at the bottom" (this step apparently saves the icons you just installed so they'll appear... I think)
9)Soft reset

Touchflo is now installed you can either:

A) Map it to a button thus making it buttonflo

B) Install Ftouchflo Alpha 4 and use the touch screen to launch and rotate left to right (one way only currently)

If you decide to use Ftouchflo Alpha 4 I've enclosed:

"FTouchfloConfig.txt" - To be copied into "\Program Files\Ftouchflo_a4"...this also makes it compatible with s2u2
"efrostminimize.exe" (by efrost duh!) - To be copied into "\windows"

FTouchflo usage:
Using my config you can bring up the cube by swiping down-to-up (like the real one) or you can do the same going left to right. You can also minimize the cube by swiping up-to-down(via efrostminimize.exe)

Notes:
1)Upon initial run from either being closed or soft reset, try not to swipe it activated too much otherwise it will open twice. Once started swipe all you want. Of course you could just activate touchflo another way first.
2)Installing Touchflo alpha takes away HTC Home contacts
3)This does not seem to be a killable app via "memory"
4)I'm trying to figure out whether I can make some script to make it run smoother
5)Audio Mngr seems to be the only resource killer as it also loads into the cube
5)Yes it only goes one direction, this was a modified touchflo designed to work with buttons. As I said, this is the one we have to use till a cooked rom with the cube comes out.
6)This does not run on initial boot, you've got to either run it from Ftouchflo or "touch flo" in programs
7)If you run "Touch flo" without button mapped or "Ftouchflo"(configured for it) it will stay on the first screen
8)Can also be minimized by using the "red hangup button" (buttonflo-method as opposed to using my config for Ftouchflo)
9)Using HTC Home Plugin Customizer requires a soft-reset because it disables the Home Plugin temporarily
7)Icons not installed correctly is one very big cause of black screen
8)Conflicting programs may also be a reason for black screen as I did this all on a hard reset

Ftouchflo Alpha4
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334965
I have installed all the apps and still get the black screen. I got it to work once but now I just get the black screen. I even went into the registry and deleted the: HKLM/Software/HTC/Biotouch/Biotouch ver, but it keeps reappearing in the registry even after a soft reset. I think deleting this file is the key to getting it working, but I don't know how to permanently delete this file, it keeps popping up. Does anyone have a solution for this or will I just have to wait until there is further development?