cheap at&t data plan?

[dudah85]

so i'm upgrading my wizard to an 8525. up til now i've managed to get by without a data plan and only text messages. i'm curious how to get cheap data plans on at&t. i called them and they said $29.95/mo JUST for data.

i've heard people getting unlimited data for like $6 a month using proxies or something? i've had no luck perusing google and forums for info on this so hoping somebody here has some answers. thanks!

[cjchriscj]

The cheapest plan I know you can get for unlimited data is the mediaNet unlimited for 19.99 a month, and thats if you get someone thats nice enought to give you that plan since they aren't supposed to give that plan to people with PDAs

[8thcivic]

so do you know if the mediaNet unlimited for 19.99 a month with work with a hermes? i used to have that with my 8125, but when i bought the 8525 they changed it...if i change it back to the media net plan...will it work? without getting any strange overages on my bill?

[intrglctcrevfnk]

so do you know if the mediaNet unlimited for 19.99 a month with work with a hermes? i used to have that with my 8125, but when i bought the 8525 they changed it...if i change it back to the media net plan...will it work? without getting any strange overages on my bill?

Yeah it will work. I've used for the last several months! The only thing to remember is to ONLY connect through wap.cingular, NOT isp.cingular.

I've noticed no problems with mine! When you get the phone the sales rep always tells you that you have to have the pda plan to use the phone. It is against the rules to use the MediaMax plan but between my phone and my wifes phone spending an extra 100 bucks a month for data started to really suck the wallet dry.

Now we both use Media Max 200 +Unl m2m texts. 24.99 Text and data all you want!

There are some other threads out here about this, search media max and you'll find them.

Now your not supposed to do this but many of us get away with it. Just make sure after every rom flash that youve got your connections setting on wap.cingular and UN: WAP@CINGULARGRPS and Pw: Cingular1


Reps and Phone people will not let you get this plan, GO ONLINE to att.com/mobile and add it there!

[fb401]

tell the reps that you're switching to a razr or something and ask to be switched to a Media Max option which gives you unlimited data and either 200 messages (19.99) or 1500 messages (29.99). MUCH cheaper than getting a PDA data option.

[galaxys]

If your unlocked and have the coverage in your area, I would check T-Mobile data rates. I saved a bunch not going with AT&T.

[fb401]

If your unlocked and have the coverage in your area, I would check T-Mobile data rates. I saved a bunch not going with AT&T.

while that's true, you do miss out on using 3G. especially if the prices you get can be close to the same.

[8thcivic]

so wat u r sayin is that i will lose my 3g connectivity if i get the media max plan instead of the pda......right now i have the 39.99 plan with unlimited internet and messaging.....so do u guys think it will be worth it to switch to the media max??

[themilkman]

from the sounds of it no, you can still use 3g. please connect me if i am wrong... anyone?

[singhnx]

from the sounds of it no, you can still use 3g. please connect me if i am wrong... anyone?

You're right. You won't lose 3G by going with the lower priced plan. The person who said that you'd lose 3G was comparing using T-Mobile's lower cost plans to AT&T plans.

[fb401]

Oh, sorry if I confused anyone. I meant you lose 3G if you go to T-Mobile for a lower priced data plan. You absolutely will not lose 3G by getting a Media Max plan. I have the Media Max 1500 plan and I was using the Hermes (now Kaiser) and love it.

[Judgementand]

The cheapest plan I know you can get for unlimited data is the mediaNet unlimited for 19.99 a month, and thats if you get someone thats nice enought to give you that plan since they aren't supposed to give that plan to people with PDAs


screw someone that's nice enough.

Do all of your business with AT&T online if possible. Go to the site and select MediaMax from the list (unlimited internet and like 200 text messages I believe) or the upgraded version that's exactly the same except 1500 text messages (for $29.99 instead of $19.99 a month). Do it online and nobody can say no.

[charlie71]

If I go online and order the cheaper 29 dollar plan (or was it 39) anway, can I connect my AT&T 8525 to my laptop (tether) and use it for internet service? The AT&T rep told me this cost $80! My AT&T phone is running factory ROM, mobile 5 (mobile 6 when ever it comes out)

[volcomnator999]

If I go online and order the cheaper 29 dollar plan (or was it 39) anway, can I connect my AT&T 8525 to my laptop (tether) and use it for internet service? The AT&T rep told me this cost $80! My AT&T phone is running factory ROM, mobile 5 (mobile 6 when ever it comes out)

wm6 is out.....

[singhnx]

wm6 is out.....

There's some people who still are waiting for the "official" release from AT&T. I guess that it all depends on your comfort level and what you're willing to do to/for your Hermes.

[funkadesi]

i have a cingular 8125, with T-mobile service, and i pay 6 dollars a month, (i dont think i even have to pay that_ because the proxy settings are from MMS settings, hmm.... but yea its super fast, but for 6 bucks, i cant complain :-)

[damoisture]

If I go online and order the cheaper 29 dollar plan (or was it 39) anway, can I connect my AT&T 8525 to my laptop (tether) and use it for internet service? The AT&T rep told me this cost $80! My AT&T phone is running factory ROM, mobile 5 (mobile 6 when ever it comes out)

I would be interested to know the answer to this as well...

[singhnx]

I would be interested to know the answer to this as well...

Here's what I've heard ... you can tether on the $20 plan ... but do so at your own discretion since tethering isn't a part of the plan. There's a lot of discussion about this on hofo. So far no one has been charged that I know of.

[tw1nky]

i have a cingular 8125, with T-mobile service, and i pay 6 dollars a month, (i dont think i even have to pay that_ because the proxy settings are from MMS settings, hmm.... but yea its super fast, but for 6 bucks, i cant complain :-)

How did you set up/ where is the $6 tmobile internet?

[mayavi]

I just Called At&T and told them to add [Media Max 200 Bundle for $19.99] to my account. they told me that I have 8525 PDA phone. and I told them that I am going to change the phone to razr. Then they added it for me and I reset the phone after changing the setting to wap.cingular

Now it is working fine. with 3G Connection. :)

[sprice82]

I actually had an argument with a store rep about this once..... I won.

[BerettaFreak]

Please elaborate on what it was and why you won...

[DIE_HARD]

My AT&T data plan is great! $25/mo for Unlimited Data.

However they broke the 3G network authentication for "AT&T Legacy", "Cingular Blue", AT&T Blue SIM cards. (http://forums.wireless.att.com/cng/board/message?board.id=cingular&thread.id=55356)

And Edge is WAY slow! I can't get anyone at AT&T to help!

I haven't switched plans because they still have nothing that can compete with my current plan!

[Gyngabread Man]

hey if you guys want i actually am an AT&T rep and i'll put you guys on the media max no hassle it helps me out with quota and it helps you save money PM me.. only info i need to make the switches would be the normal info as when you call in or see a rep in the store and that is phone number name and last four/passcode... easier way to get it done i think... i can e-mail the CSS that prints out. like i said just let me know and save the hassle :)

[c0v3rr1d3]

excellent find, just added the media max 200 to my account for 19.99 configued the phone and now have unlimated data , woot!!!

[GPFerror]

excellent find, just added the media max 200 to my account for 19.99 configued the phone and now have unlimated data , woot!!!

me too, last Tuesday, so much nicer then trying to find an open access point. and lot better then the media net 1mb for $4.99 i was using :)

Troy

[Gyngabread Man]

if u guys PM me i can do it too and it helps me with quota c'mon help a brotha out

[BK8525]

if u guys PM me i can do it too and it helps me with quota c'mon help a brotha out

It isn't hard to do online so why would anyone need you to do it? Stop spamming.

[Xyberz]

It isn't hard to do online so why would anyone need you to do it? Stop spamming.


Because, it's easy as a rep to just tell the company what you guys are doing and they can easily stop it. So do us reps a favor and don't be a jack@ss and add it on yourself. It takes one call and we just put it on and it helps us so we can continue to help you guys. Reps have families that they need to take care of too and by you calling in to add on the service, helps their monthly income.

If you were in the same position, you wouldn't want someone just doing it themselves and only putting money into the pockets of the company and letting them keep it all when some of it can help someone else.

Don't be a greedy @ss! Cause it takes one call to the top and, BAM you won't be able to take advantage of doing such a thing at a low price.

Think about it this way, $39.99 for unlimited data or $19.99?

I also work for AT&T and I know how the reps feel. We ALL have quotas we have to hit and by people like yourselves adding crap on yourself, doesn't help anyone but the company.

[brivent]

Yeah it will work. I've used for the last several months! The only thing to remember is to ONLY connect through wap.cingular, NOT isp.cingular.

I've noticed no problems with mine! When you get the phone the sales rep always tells you that you have to have the pda plan to use the phone. It is against the rules to use the MediaMax plan but between my phone and my wifes phone spending an extra 100 bucks a month for data started to really suck the wallet dry.

Now we both use Media Max 200 +Unl m2m texts. 24.99 Text and data all you want!

There are some other threads out here about this, search media max and you'll find them.

Now your not supposed to do this but many of us get away with it. Just make sure after every rom flash that youve got your connections setting on wap.cingular and UN: WAP@CINGULARGRPS and Pw: Cingular1


Reps and Phone people will not let you get this plan, GO ONLINE to att.com/mobile and add it there!


ok i'm new to all this PDA stuff-anyway i went to change it to MEdia Max 200 Bundle for 19.99-now whats the diffeerence between this plan and the PDA plans-when i click on them to read about them the PDA one says unlimted data connect, where the MEdia Max 200 Bundle says UNLIMITED MEdia Net. whats the difference. i just want to make sure i dont get any suprise charges on my next bill. thanks

[BuckAv]

ok i'm new to all this PDA stuff-anyway i went to change it to MEdia Max 200 Bundle for 19.99-now whats the diffeerence between this plan and the PDA plans-when i click on them to read about them the PDA one says unlimted data connect, where the MEdia Max 200 Bundle says UNLIMITED MEdia Net. whats the difference. i just want to make sure i dont get any suprise charges on my next bill. thanks


This is my question as well. I would love to cut my monthly charge down to 19.99, but I want to make sure that I won't be losing anything. I would also be more than willing to make the change through one of you reps.

[intrglctcrevfnk]

ok i'm new to all this PDA stuff-anyway i went to change it to MEdia Max 200 Bundle for 19.99-now whats the diffeerence between this plan and the PDA plans-when i click on them to read about them the PDA one says unlimted data connect, where the MEdia Max 200 Bundle says UNLIMITED MEdia Net. whats the difference. i just want to make sure i dont get any suprise charges on my next bill. thanks

With the Media Max setup the only APN you can connect to is wap.cingular.
You CANNOT use isp.cingular. If you do use isp.cingular you can get charged for that. The unlimited wap.cingular is fine for me.
This is what I use wap.cingular for and have no problems(provided you run the disable proxy (which takes away the MediaNet home crap))
Here we go:
-Normal web browsing (PIE, Opera, etc.)
-Streaming ORB from my comupter (through PIE and WMP)
-Slingbox(LOVE IT! But watch your data consumption, NEITHER of the plans are truly 'unlimited';pda or not.)
-Xpress Fail as a mail client.(I know it sucks but it syncs my html email if I delete an email I don't want.)
-Mocha VNC for remote desktop viewing.
-Internet sharing
-Others I can't think of.
All of these work perfectly through the wap.cingular connection. I've been using it for a long time now, I'm sure there are achived threads about this here.....
Anyway it's all good!
A little caveat though... My wife left the slingbox 'slinging' to her phone for 8 hours the first day we got it, used damn near 1 gig in a 48 hour period! So im being cautious and viewing my account untill the next billing cycle. Normal usage of 300-500MB a month for me has never caused any problems. Used to stream with orb all the time and never got noticed. But I figure HUGE data jumps like that might get red flagged..

I started another thread around here wondering what the magical number is when the 'unlimited' data plans no longer become unlimited.
I know it's 5 Gigs in a month for Verizon....

But anyway with wifi on the 8525 I just get onto the unsecured wifi at my work and use my slingbox mainly through there. So I'm at 175MB and the wife is at 1200MB, halfway through the billing cycle.

Long winded I know but I just wanted to explain what kind and what amount of data I've used with no problem. Saves a ton of money per month. Besides all the horror stories about getting charged were usually resolved with a call to customer service and a switch to the proper plan, thereby getting away scott free...

[BK8525]

Because, it's easy as a rep to just tell the company what you guys are doing and they can easily stop it. So do us reps a favor and don't be a jack@ss and add it on yourself. It takes one call and we just put it on and it helps us so we can continue to help you guys. Reps have families that they need to take care of too and by you calling in to add on the service, helps their monthly income.

If you were in the same position, you wouldn't want someone just doing it themselves and only putting money into the pockets of the company and letting them keep it all when some of it can help someone else.

Don't be a greedy @ss! Cause it takes one call to the top and, BAM you won't be able to take advantage of doing such a thing at a low price.

Think about it this way, $39.99 for unlimited data or $19.99?

I also work for AT&T and I know how the reps feel. We ALL have quotas we have to hit and by people like yourselves adding crap on yourself, doesn't help anyone but the company.

So then why even have your website then if it pulls money out of reps pockets? So schmoes can order products/accessories and fill your pockets? I'd be ashamed to be a rep who cared only about quota and not customer satisfaction. Call the wahmbulance buddy.

[brivent]

With the Media Max setup the only APN you can connect to is wap.cingular.
You CANNOT use wap.cingular. If you do use isp.cingular you can get charged for that. The unlimited wap.cingular is fine for me.
This is what I use wap.cingular for and have no problems(provided you run the disable proxy (which takes away the MediaNet home crap))
Here we go:
-Normal web browsing (PIE, Opera, etc.)
-Streaming ORB from my comupter (through PIE and WMP)
-Slingbox(LOVE IT! But watch your data consumption, NEITHER of the plans are truly 'unlimited';pda or not.)
-Xpress Fail as a mail client.(I know it sucks but it syncs my html email if I delete an email I don't want.)
-Mocha VNC for remote desktop viewing.
-Internet sharing
-Others I can't think of.
All of these work perfectly through the wap.cingular connection. I've been using it for a long time now, I'm sure there are achived threads about this here.....
Anyway it's all good!
A little caveat though... My wife left the slingbox 'slinging' to her phone for 8 hours the first day we got it, used damn near 1 gig in a 48 hour period! So im being cautious and viewing my account untill the next billing cycle. Normal usage of 300-500MB a month for me has never caused any problems. Used to stream with orb all the time and never got noticed. But I figure HUGE data jumps like that might get red flagged..

I started another thread around here wondering what the magical number is when the 'unlimited' data plans no longer become unlimited.
I know it's 5 Gigs in a month for Verizon....

But anyway with wifi on the 8525 I just get onto the unsecured wifi at my work and use my slingbox mainly through there. So I'm at 175MB and the wife is at 1200MB, halfway through the billing cycle.

Long winded I know but I just wanted to explain what kind and what amount of data I've used with no problem. Saves a ton of money per month. Besides all the horror stories about getting charged were usually resolved with a call to customer service and a switch to the proper plan, thereby getting away scott free...

thanks for explaining the difference-helped out alot but which setting do you use wap. or isp i think you are saying use wap-one question which i am sure is so simple i should know how to do it, is how do you switch from isp to wap. thanks again for all the help

[ChrisFB]

For what it's worth I was on the MediaNet $19.95 plan with my 8525. Pretty reasonable data usage per month - sub 50meg (99% exchange sync etc...). All of a sudden after 4 months my internet/data stopped working right on the data of a billing cycle. I called in and they had disabled it (after first trying to tell me that plan wouldn't work and giving me related lines of shit) and required that I sign up for the $39.95 plan. No rebates or deals were involved. I'm guessing they are starting to audit accounts.

[intrglctcrevfnk]

@brivent: Modify the My ISP settings. connection name:wap.cingular
UN:WAP@CINGULARGRPS.COM
PW:CINGULAR1


@ChrisFB: I've heard this can happen. But you just had to change your plan back to the 'correct' plan right? No overages?

[ChrisFB]

@ChrisFB: I've heard this can happen. But you just had to change your plan back to the 'correct' plan right? No overages?

No overages that I know of at this point. Haven't seen my bill but the rep mentioned nothing about them.

As far as changing it back. At this point, I've had a conversation with the company so I probably won't. That said, they never actually "warned" or "informed" me. There was no notice at all and I spent the whole morning troubleshooting. To be honest, the lady told me a bunch of stuff that was totally wrong and said the plan shouldn't work at all even when it had for months. I could probably swap it back and tell them, it got turned off, I talked to a rep who obviously knew nothing, and to get service I allowed her to turn it on and then changed it back to the plan I was using successfully before.

That said, obviously my account has already been looked at and the chances of it happening again might be higher (might be random too, but very obviously something made them look at mine). How far do I really want to push on them for $20 a month. I'm not sure I want to deal with it.

[Gyngabread Man]

So then why even have your website then if it pulls money out of reps pockets? So schmoes can order products/accessories and fill your pockets? I'd be ashamed to be a rep who cared only about quota and not customer satisfaction. Call the wahmbulance buddy.

they do it so they can make money that much easier. it is a fortune 500 company and before i worked for them i did everything online because i was already on the computer and would notice ads about promos and i would just hop onto their website and make change!!! either way the company makes money off of you. why not just help some1 with their things it doesnt cost you money and if anything then if anything happens the blame falls on the rep and not you.. i did a switch for somebody today and i made sure it was properly done i chenged the IMEI on the account and put in a note about the customer switching to a SYNC as to not get flagged and i even went as far to make sure it all happens with the billing cycle to not give them proration.. i think the last part shows im not being greedy yes it does help me with my numbers but it also helps you out as and makes sure that everything is done right..some people can be jerks... as for the audits the i did notice last month that the system was doing an automated account sweep on features that might be why they caught on to you... and also you will no longer be able to do it online or thru care starting on the 17th of november. they are updating policies and systems to no longer allow media max plan on PDA's so only way to get it on there after next week will be thru a rep in a store anyways... just giving you guys a head up on that...

[Gyngabread Man]

Because, it's easy as a rep to just tell the company what you guys are doing and they can easily stop it. So do us reps a favor and don't be a jack@ss and add it on yourself. It takes one call and we just put it on and it helps us so we can continue to help you guys. Reps have families that they need to take care of too and by you calling in to add on the service, helps their monthly income.

If you were in the same position, you wouldn't want someone just doing it themselves and only putting money into the pockets of the company and letting them keep it all when some of it can help someone else.

Don't be a greedy @ss! Cause it takes one call to the top and, BAM you won't be able to take advantage of doing such a thing at a low price.

Think about it this way, $39.99 for unlimited data or $19.99?

I also work for AT&T and I know how the reps feel. We ALL have quotas we have to hit and by people like yourselves adding crap on yourself, doesn't help anyone but the company.

thanks man and what part if the company work for

[jazzster]

hey Gyngabread man, thanks for helping me out with my data plan....checked my account and it's been switched over....you the man!!! fyi to those who'll say, I tried first to change my settings online but the pdaunlimted was fixed and wouldn't let me so I took the man up on his offer.....again thanks so much....

James

[Xyberz]

For all you haters out there, shame on you and your mother! Your mother should've taught you to share.

It's completely true that if you add anything or purchase it through the website, you TRULY are taking money out of the reps pockets! Everything that goes online is all profit besides cost for AT&T. The reps don't see one fricken red cent of ANY of that!

So yeah, go ahead, add it all on yourselves, then when they start firing reps cause all the business goes online, you'll be crying like a bitch having to either send your phone in to get it serviced and or waiting hours just to get help in stores cause there aren't enough reps.

Maybe someone should go to your job, make it super efficient for the company so they earn all the profits without the need of workers like you and me, then fire your @ss for having such a stupid attitude about helping reps out.

Maybe you should rethink your disposition about helping reps out. Truly if we add it on and help you out like we are, it only benefits YOU and we get a little something out of it also.

So PM myself or any of the other reps posting in this thread to add on your feature. It will only take but a few minutes to add it on.

[Xyberz]

@brivent: Modify the My ISP settings. connection name:wap.cingular
UN:WAP@CINGULARGRPS.COM
PW:CINGULAR1


@ChrisFB: I've heard this can happen. But you just had to change your plan back to the 'correct' plan right? No overages?

The Tilt (8925) comes with the WAP@CINGULARGPRS.COM setting on it. It's not isp.cingular no more, at least with this phone.

[mmartin9]

Hey I just wanted to chime in and say that I took Gyngabread Man up on his offer and he changed my plan and sent me the official ATT receipt showing the changes, so I know it's legit.

I just made a skype call and it was great, hopefully I changed ISP to WAP correctly though.

Also I use to work as a rep at ATT so I know how hard those quotas can be. If you've got a couple of minutes just let one of the reps do it.

[BuckAv]

Hey I just wanted to chime in and say that I took Gyngabread Man up on his offer and he changed my plan and sent me the official ATT receipt showing the changes, so I know it's legit.

I just made a skype call and it was great, hopefully I changed ISP to WAP correctly though.

Also I use to work as a rep at ATT so I know how hard those quotas can be. If you've got a couple of minutes just let one of the reps do it.

Same here. Everything looks good to me, and all of the paperwork looks legit. Now I just have to make sure that my settings for WAP are correct.

Thanks Gyngabread Man!

[Gyngabread Man]

no problem guys and thanks for giving me the chance to help you guys out and backing me up =)

[BuckAv]

Quick question. Is Media Net wap or isp?

[Gyngabread Man]

i believe it is wap

[Reaper29]

I have two 8525's running on a four phone plan and only one was purchased from ATT and one off Ebay yet when I check my plan info on thier site it shows 8525's on both the # I have them working on and my exwife got my daughter a phone from a used reseller and that phone model show's up in my account information so I would be a little cautious about things as it seems they are pulling your model info from the IMEI #'s

Remeber you can only play with a dragon so long before you get burned

[Xyberz]

I have two 8525's running on a four phone plan and only one was purchased from ATT and one off Ebay yet when I check my plan info on thier site it shows 8525's on both the # I have them working on and my exwife got my daughter a phone from a used reseller and that phone model show's up in my account information so I would be a little cautious about things as it seems they are pulling your model info from the IMEI #'s

Remeber you can only play with a dragon so long before you get burned

Mine hasn't recognized it yet. I keep resetting it to a Razr that I also have and it switches it back to another LG phone I also have. Hopefully this deters them in a way.

[Gyngabread Man]

yea i noticed this too... also when i click on a support link it shows me phone a customer is really using depite what is registered to the account... but i think any flags will be raised

[Goanna]

What I want to know is why there is a differance in price in the first place. Why is the exact same plan more money if you use a PDA then if you were to use a SmartPhone? Stuff like that really annoys me.

[jonrobertd]

seriously that is a great question!

[Xyberz]

Well from a business standpoint, you wouldn't charge a Ferrari the same price to change the oil from a Pinto would you?

A PDA phone is meant to be upscale and the next level above. So honestly I can see why they charge so much more for it, even though technically they will both bring you to the same internet.

Is it fair, maybe, maybe not. I guess it's who perceives it for what it is.

[armedmetallica]

Well from a business standpoint, you wouldn't charge a Ferrari the same price to change the oil from a Pinto would you?

A PDA phone is meant to be upscale and the next level above. So honestly I can see why they charge so much more for it, even though technically they will both bring you to the same internet.

Is it fair, maybe, maybe not. I guess it's who perceives it for what it is.

it probably has to do with support issues. ppl that have a pda phone w. internet that AREN'T computer saavy probably call a whole lot more than the folks that have a razr or something with internet. Like you said, it depends on the complexity of the machine in question.

[Goanna]

Yeah but people without a PDA phone who are using an unlimited data plan are most likely tethering to a PC, or using a smartphone which is still running windows or palm.

If it's a case of support issues (which I doubt in this case), then they should have multiple plans, one w/ support for people who need it, one without support for those who dont.

[jlebeane]

Ok the difference between the PDA connect plan and the media net plan are vervy minimal. If any at all. If your using your phone for simple everyday internet use, you will never be able to tell the difference. The only thing i have notice between the two is that when i am trying to send emails i have a hard time getting them to send. I get the emails just fine. But it all depends on what you choose to do with your phone. I do everything from visit msn, cnn, msn money, espn, the golf channel, my online banking, and paying bills all on a $19.99 media net plan. And I connect at over 750 kbs. I have even been upwards of 1.2 - 1.5 mbs in chicago. And saving $20.00 per month on my phone bill is great. Except it goes in my gas tank now.

[MC1983]

I took Gyngabread Man up on his offer and he took care of everything for me. If you guys need anything done, I wouldn't hesitate to hit up Gyngabread Man.

[chedlin]

Ok the difference between the PDA connect plan and the media net plan are vervy minimal. If any at all. If your using your phone for simple everyday internet use, you will never be able to tell the difference. The only thing i have notice between the two is that when i am trying to send emails i have a hard time getting them to send. I get the emails just fine. But it all depends on what you choose to do with your phone. I do everything from visit msn, cnn, msn money, espn, the golf channel, my online banking, and paying bills all on a $19.99 media net plan. And I connect at over 750 kbs. I have even been upwards of 1.2 - 1.5 mbs in chicago. And saving $20.00 per month on my phone bill is great. Except it goes in my gas tank now.

There are no differences between the plans. I went with DataConnect after a rep threatened to notate my account (and presumably drop me to pay per use) from a store visit. I wanted to use the isp AP for some advanced networking, but it wouldn't work. The only way to get that is to have a tethering plan.

That confirms that there is NO difference between PDA connect and Medianet unlimited. I made my change online several months ago, so I can't take up Gingerbread man on his offer.

[Goanna]

I am wondering now if when T-Mobile launches their 3G network in a few days (supposedly) if the $5.99 T-Zones trick will wind up getting people full 3G speeds.

I am still in my 30 Day trial period with ATT. If that winds up being the case I am probably going to head back to T-Mo.

[ChrisFB]

Well from a business standpoint, you wouldn't charge a Ferrari the same price to change the oil from a Pinto would you?

If it took the same oil, same amount, and was just as easy to install I fail to see the justification of charging more despite wanting to get paid more simply because a company believes they can charge more because one drives a nicer car. Unlimited is unlimited - they merely want to justify charging some people more. And very obviously they are getting away with it.

[Goanna]

Unlimited is unlimited - they merely want to justify charging some people more. And very obviously they are getting away with it.
Class action suit anyone? :D

[ChrisFB]

Class action suit anyone? :D

Given the murkiness of the guidelines and differentiation in phones there's probably a case to be made. For a while it was only the PDAs that couldn't use medianet (whereas the Smartphone OS flavor was okay with it). Then as Smartphones got popular they wanted them on the more expensive plans so they said, any phone with a keyboard - I have yet to see a keyboard access the internet. Problem is some non-keyboarded smartphones i.e. MPx220 etc...don't have full keyboards but use the exact same OS.

It really comes down to them trying to charge more to people with perceived higher end devices based on the proposed higher usage. Plus, it's the whole "new" thing. These phones are only now hitting the mainstream so they want to make money off it and people are used to paying up for new stuff so they take it a bit easier. They already have had many business customers with Blackberry and data is the new frontier of charges now that minutes is largely commoditized.

[Goanna]

I actualy just ran the idea to a class action attorney. Waiting to hear back from them.

[twist]

I just wanted to say that Gyngabread Man was totally legit and totally cool, he was able to get all my problems resolved, if I ever have any issues in the future with my Atnt service I will be contacting him before I bother waiting on hold and getting a less that satisfactory level of service!

Thanks Gyngabread Man!!!!

[stevebonning]

Another option is to just go online and sign up for the $19.95 MediaMax service as I did.

Steve

[ChrisFB]

Another option is to just go online and sign up for the $19.95 MediaMax service as I did.

Steve

If you read the thread you'll find that it appears AT&T is now scanning some of their accounts to detect this. This happened to me, you'll find my account a page or so back.

[xxjabberwockxx]

Thanks Gyngabread man!! works great. when I first got this 8525 upgrade from an 8125 they told me the internet wasn't working because I didn't have the pda plan. They put me on it and it still didn't work initially. Proof that you don't 'need' the pda plan. Gyn is legit. Thank you again!

[tdm850]

Hi,
Does anyone know the ISP connection setting for T-Mobile?
I've been thinking to sign up T-zone.

Thanks.

[viperflyer]

they do it so they can make money that much easier. it is a fortune 500 company and before i worked for them i did everything online because i was already on the computer and would notice ads about promos and i would just hop onto their website and make change!!! either way the company makes money off of you. why not just help some1 with their things it doesnt cost you money and if anything then if anything happens the blame falls on the rep and not you.. i did a switch for somebody today and i made sure it was properly done i chenged the IMEI on the account and put in a note about the customer switching to a SYNC as to not get flagged and i even went as far to make sure it all happens with the billing cycle to not give them proration.. i think the last part shows im not being greedy yes it does help me with my numbers but it also helps you out as and makes sure that everything is done right..some people can be jerks... as for the audits the i did notice last month that the system was doing an automated account sweep on features that might be why they caught on to you... and also you will no longer be able to do it online or thru care starting on the 17th of november. they are updating policies and systems to no longer allow media max plan on PDA's so only way to get it on there after next week will be thru a rep in a store anyways... just giving you guys a head up on that...
I have a question. Say I tell a rep to change my phone IMEI to that of another non-PDA phone and then have them add unlimited MediaNet plan, can't AT&T check to verify whether I am using a PDA phone or the other one that they change registration to, to access the internet? If they can, wouldn't that create problems and give them another reason to disable internet access and have you sign up for the more expensive plan? I paid 40.00 for over a year for getting to the same net that I could have with another phone, mini Opera and half the money - count me in for a class action lawsuit.

[zcink]

T-mobile is the way to go. Unlimited access for $19.99 a month is the best you can do. If you invest in 3 watt booster from Wilson Electronics the speed is quite good. I get download speeds of over 200 upload is like 90, on my Laptop.

I tried to switch to AT&T a year ago. Its sucks. Glad I stuck with T-Mobile.

[galaxys]

Yes, the $19.95 T-Mobile unlimited is a great plan!

[Gyngabread Man]

I have a question. Say I tell a rep to change my phone IMEI to that of another non-PDA phone and then have them add unlimited MediaNet plan, can't AT&T check to verify whether I am using a PDA phone or the other one that they change registration to, to access the internet? If they can, wouldn't that create problems and give them another reason to disable internet access and have you sign up for the more expensive plan? I paid 40.00 for over a year for getting to the same net that I could have with another phone, mini Opera and half the money - count me in for a class action lawsuit.

sad to say but the company can and does see what phone you are using each and every single time your sim card is in a phone and powered on...sounds creepy but its true I almost got fired for having 5 IMEI's on my cou that weren't registered by the company for use on that line.... man this thread sure has grown

[elsmacko]

Yes, the $19.95 T-Mobile unlimited is a great plan!


Yeah...well I like the $5.99 plan (tzones, t-mobile), just put the proxy server settings in the phone and you are set.

$6/mth, unlimited internet, and YES my exchange push email is working over it too hehehe :-)

[galaxys]

Yeah...well I like the $5.99 plan (tzones, t-mobile), just put the proxy server settings in the phone and you are set.

$6/mth, unlimited internet, and YES my exchange push email is working over it too hehehe :-)

Cool...glad it's working for u! My package also includes unlimited world wide t-mob wifi hotspots access since I travel often. Can't wait for t-mob to get 3G going...

[Goanna]

Once T-Mobile gets 3g launched, if they keep that $5.99 T-zones plan on there, I will probably switch back to them, and just pay the cancelation fee from AT&T.

[scasper76]

Anyone know if this plan is offered to "Pay as you Go" customers? Hopefully one of the reps can answer this for me or maybe even hook me up with it, if not available to us pay as you go customers... :D

[inneyeseakay]

So... There is a way... although very illegal, but you can change you IMEI's right? So, couldn't you always go buy a busted up POS razr or something and change the IMEI of your PDA to that? That way, even AT&T doesn't know that you have a PDA?

[DLStahl]

hey Gyngabread man, thanks for helping me out with my data plan....checked my account and it's been switched over....you the man!!! fyi to those who'll say, I tried first to change my settings online but the pdaunlimted was fixed and wouldn't let me so I took the man up on his offer.....again thanks so much....

James

would also like to say thanks to Gyngabread man for his help switching my account over - I have full 3G service in SF just as before - nothing changed except for the extra $20 a month in my pocket!!!

[rad_dsm]

sad to say but the company can and does see what phone you are using each and every single time your sim card is in a phone and powered on...sounds creepy but its true I almost got fired for having 5 IMEI's on my cou that weren't registered by the company for use on that line.... man this thread sure has grown

Gyngabread Man,
Can you hook me up for the $19.95 data plan, my number is in a PM to you.

I saw that online they have the dual phone for $49 with free shipping, can you match that.

Thanks

[meyekulbayrd]

I'm using a T-Mo phone through ATT. I'll never sign a contract again. A Rep I know put me on the 19.99 Unlimited data plan when I got my MDA.

[rad_dsm]

Is anyone still using the AT&T Media Max plan for $19.95 on a PDA?
Did you sign up online or via a rep?

Thanks

[inneyeseakay]

Be careful, they are supposed to be charging you correctly as of the 20th. That means if you are using MediaMax with a PDA, you will still be charged for the data because it's not covered on that plan :O

[Rogue9]

Since AT&T recently overhauled their data plans I'm looking at the cheapest "unlimited" plan, here's the options I'm seeing on their site. with the explanations for each option...


Data Connect with WiFi $60.00 :mad:
Data Connect add on with WIFI access. Used in conjunction with voice plan

PDA Personal Add-on Unlimited Messages $50.00 :mad:
This plan is available as an add-on to voice plan for PDA devices only and includes unlimited data connect plus unlimited messaging (including text, picture, video messages and instant messaging). International messages not included.

PDA Personal Add-on 200 Messages $35.00
This plan is available as an add-on to voice plan for PDA devices only and includes unlimited data connect plus 200 instant messages (including text, picture, video messages and instant messaging).

PDA Personal Add-on $30.00
PDA Personal Add-on This plan is available as an add-on to voice plan for PDA devices only and includes unlimited data connect.


Whats with the "w/ WiFi"??? :confused:
Is $30/mo the cheapest plan out there ffrom AT&T that will work with PDA's?