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coolVariable
22-10-2007, 08:28 PM
I sometimes get a triangle icon in the taskbar, next to the E / 3G icon.
Any idea what it means?
I cannot click it ... or better: nothing happens.

wizzzard
22-10-2007, 08:35 PM
This is the Roaming indicator.

coolVariable
22-10-2007, 09:23 PM
Mmmmh.
And why am I seeing this in Beverly Hills and the network is "AT&T"?

austinsnyc
22-10-2007, 09:46 PM
call up AT-T and ask lol.. But that is the roaming Icon sometimes phoines will pick the closest tower to use since it has the best signal and just maybe t-mobile owns that tower Only AT-T will know.

Camstech
24-10-2007, 11:01 AM
I have a similar issue in Oz. I travel o/s a lot and am used to the roaming signal appearing whilst I am out of the country. However, this is happening right here at home. I have a Telstra 3G SIM card and all too frequently my Kaiser brings up this "Roam" Signal. Generally I then lose 3G as well, dropping back to HSDPA. Even more strangely, it is still showing that I am connected to Telstra. A soft reset usually brings back the 3G signal. I never had this problem with my Trinity and my work is only a few hundred metres from a Telstra tower so signal strength is not a problem. A bug I think, and damned annoying.

VTECaddict
24-10-2007, 12:13 PM
you are picking up T-Mobile. AT&T users can still use T-Mobile towers currently as a result of the deal they made when AT&T (Cingular) sold them the 310-170 network in CA/NV. (its now properly renamed to 310-260 by TMO)

the phone's alpha tag says AT&T regardless of what carrier's network you're on when you're roaming. unless you have the 4EON code applied to your account, in which case it would say Off Network when on non AT&T towers.

coolVariable
24-10-2007, 08:10 PM
any idea how I can fix this?
I am fine with it roaming if there is indeed not 3G network but my issue is that it doesn't drop the roaming as soon as it could.

matt_g
24-10-2007, 11:09 PM
I have a similar issue in Oz. I travel o/s a lot and am used to the roaming signal appearing whilst I am out of the country. However, this is happening right here at home. I have a Telstra 3G SIM card and all too frequently my Kaiser brings up this "Roam" Signal. Generally I then lose 3G as well, dropping back to HSDPA. Even more strangely, it is still showing that I am connected to Telstra. A soft reset usually brings back the 3G signal. I never had this problem with my Trinity and my work is only a few hundred metres from a Telstra tower so signal strength is not a problem. A bug I think, and damned annoying.

I have the same issue - sometimes I have "3G Telstra" (no roaming symbol, and will use HSDPA if needed) and other times I have "3 Telstra" and the roaming symbol displaying. One thing - as I understand it, you are not 'dropping back to HSDPA' - this is actually a service that is on top of the 3G networks, and provides greater download speeds.

I checked with my Telstra reseller who said that this would not change the call rates or data rates. Not sure what causes this though...

Have put this question on Whirlpool as well: http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=846691#bottom

jeffmurray
26-10-2007, 08:44 AM
I have the same issue on Telstra. Hope a new ROM fixes this.

Camstech
28-10-2007, 12:42 PM
Hmmm, I hate it when stupid people post garbage about which they know little. Problem is, this time the stupid person was me!
The 3G symbol shows the phone is within range of a UMTS signal. The H symbol means it is in range of a HSDPA signal, the high speed data version of UMTS so "H" is better than "3G". Oops, so my phone was roaming to a better signal.
This roaming issue appears to only affect a small number of people whose service providers have a crossover deal with another provider. This appears to apply to those with the AT&T/T-Mobile crossover in the US and here in Oz where the phone will pick up either the Telstra Next G network (UMTS 850Mhz, shown as 3G Telstra) or, in big cities, the Hutchinson "3" Network, (UMTS 2100Mhz with HSDPA, shown as 3 Telstra). I was uncertain about this as I never saw the roaming symbol with my Dopod 810, which always showed 3G Telstra. I think the TyTN II, like the original TyTN, has some different software seetings which means that the phone will try the "3 Telstra" network when it can, and this shows as roaming, whereas my D810 either didn't roam to 3 Telstra, or, if it did it didn't show it as roaming. In any case, it's not actually a problem, and as Telstra have indicated, it makes no difference to the data/call rates. I'm chilled on this. Now if they can fix the "hang-up" bug...

TheCritic
28-10-2007, 08:02 PM
I've been wondering about the elongated triangle pointing up too. I have very poor/no reception in my office at work... though sometimes enough to get a voicemail notification (not enough to be able to call and check, usually don't have a missed-call notification).

I'd thought it might have to do with being connected to Active Sync. Sure would be smart if the phone could get notifications of even calls over an alternative data connection when the cellular couldn't connect... even if ATT charged regular minutes for it would be so much better than no signal, period.

just2584
21-02-2008, 08:36 AM
I'm having this issue for some reason on my second Tilt that has been sent to me. The first doesn't show it at all but the second does. I don't understand what its doing.

rohanmaini
21-02-2008, 08:42 AM
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