New Sprint Rom Is Here ???

[riviera]

New sprint rom?? http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=10293&page=3

http://download.america.htc.com/RUU_...PL106_Ship.exe

[Existentialism]

It's been confirmed. That is the new official ROM for Sprint. It fixes the Bluetooth issues among others. No Rev. A or GPS of course, but that was expected.

[Dishe]

question is, is this really "better" than the alltel rom that has been available for a long time already over at PPCgeeks...
The alltel rom fixed the BT and alarm problem as well. I'm excited to see that Sprint finally caught up, but I'm wondering if this is better than the setup I currently have.

[ppcboyz]

Well I for one am happy and upset.. I would like to see REV A , as I need the faster upload speeds for sending big files from my 4gb micro sd.

[papped]

I havent tried the Alltel rom, but the new sprint rom fixes the keyboard lag + wm6 responsiveness problems.

[kmartburrito]

After reading all of the threads over at PPCGeeks, it seems like there are some mixed results on the ROM (to be expected I guess, you can't appease everyone.)

-Most are reporting the BT fix worked correctly.

-I didn't see anyone say that the Alarm fix didn't work

-People are reporting that the OS seems a little faster and better at managing memory, such as reclaiming more when you close an app, etc.

-The radio version on the Sprint ROM is 1.47, compared to 1.40 of the Alltel, some were reporting better reception between this one and the stock rom (1.32 I believe)

-the most widely spread issue I saw was that some users were having issues with their dpad not working. At first, someone pinned it down to sprinttv, as it worked after they removed it, but then others said that the problem returned.

-YMMV, but some reported that when they skipped the sprint customization of the rom (when it starts initially, after the 3 second delay where you can soft reset) it caused issues on their phone. One person said that a workaround for this was to let it install EVERYTHING initially, and then do a hard reset and skip the customization process. It makes sense that if it were something with the EXTRom that it might put something in there that you needed, but again, not sure on this one.

-I can't believe how many people were stuck on the idea that they would be able to use Sprite Backup or SPB Backup to restore all of their stuff. Let me say this again, because I don't think it can be said enough. Unless you are just restoring folders such as your documents or something non-system related, you CANNOT use these programs. You WILL overwrite the new files with the old ones, causing a boatload of issues, if it even works at all. So don't do it, or you will cause yourself some headaches. Activesync remembers the apps you have installed, so just sync afterwards and click the boxes. For your other stuff such as contacts, back those up with a contact backup app or sync with outlook if you've got it.

just my two cents.

[hay112]

After reading all of the threads over at PPCGeeks, it seems like there are some mixed results on the ROM (to be expected I guess, you can't appease everyone.)

-Most are reporting the BT fix worked correctly.

-I didn't see anyone say that the Alarm fix didn't work

-People are reporting that the OS seems a little faster and better at managing memory, such as reclaiming more when you close an app, etc.

-The radio version on the Sprint ROM is 1.47, compared to 1.40 of the Alltel, some were reporting better reception between this one and the stock rom (1.32 I believe)

-the most widely spread issue I saw was that some users were having issues with their dpad not working. At first, someone pinned it down to sprinttv, as it worked after they removed it, but then others said that the problem returned.

-YMMV, but some reported that when they skipped the sprint customization of the rom (when it starts initially, after the 3 second delay where you can soft reset) it caused issues on their phone. One person said that a workaround for this was to let it install EVERYTHING initially, and then do a hard reset and skip the customization process. It makes sense that if it were something with the EXTRom that it might put something in there that you needed, but again, not sure on this one.

-I can't believe how many people were stuck on the idea that they would be able to use Sprite Backup or SPB Backup to restore all of their stuff. Let me say this again, because I don't think it can be said enough. Unless you are just restoring folders such as your documents or something non-system related, you CANNOT use these programs. You WILL overwrite the new files with the old ones, causing a boatload of issues, if it even works at all. So don't do it, or you will cause yourself some headaches. Activesync remembers the apps you have installed, so just sync afterwards and click the boxes. For your other stuff such as contacts, back those up with a contact backup app or sync with outlook if you've got it.

just my two cents.

i took the plunge yesterday, i skipped out on all the sprint customization and everything turned out ok....haven't tested bluetooth yet but everything you said seems to be on point...

[ImCoKeMaN]

-YMMV, but some reported that when they skipped the sprint customization of the rom (when it starts initially, after the 3 second delay where you can soft reset) it caused issues on their phone. One person said that a workaround for this was to let it install EVERYTHING initially, and then do a hard reset and skip the customization process. It makes sense that if it were something with the EXTRom that it might put something in there that you needed, but again, not sure on this one.

Just to clarify this is part. A hard reset will completely erase any carrier customizations there is absolutely no reason for installing extrom, hard resetting then skipping. Just start out with the hard reset, skip customizations and you'll be good to go.


Although there are still the other bugs with the update =)

[sefstrat]

Just installed it a while ago, skipped the sprint customizations, everything seems to be running good and actually noticeably quicker than before. New startup screen is cool too, no problems thus far =)

[cbunting]

do yourself a favor and wait for the next rom. If you didn't already experiance it, your device will lock up and go to sleep requiring a soft reset...very unusable. and BT will turn off after a few minutes randomly.

load the colonel's rom on, it's much better imho

[papped]

Seems to only happen to some people though. I have had my phone on pretty much straight since the rom update.

[diomark]

there seems to be a major bluetooth issue where the BT just shuts off periodically.. Not sure how,but they found a way to make bluetooth even worse!

I can't carry on a conversation without BT shutting off on me.. (or use the gps without it shutting off/etc..)
-mark

[GoodThings2Life]

I haven't updated yet, plan to over the weekend, but I would suggest anyone having problems to stop and consider their setup first...

1. What programs are installed that could cause problems?
2. What registry hacks have been done that may cause problems?
3. What configuration settings might need reset that may cause problems?


For example, after a hard reset, Enhanced Network over USB is enabled by default, and this often causes Active Sync to have issues. Likewise, power management tweaks will have reverted to defaults and you may like a more finely tuned setup.

As for memory leaks being better/worse, you may have programs installed that are out of date/buggy.

I realize it's easier to jump on the "this sucks" bandwagon, but it doesn't help you or other users with legitimate problems when no consideration is given to what is causing a given problem.

These situations are precisely why the instructions tell you that EVERYTHING will be erased. This is a good thing since it forces you to clean house, but it also means you have to pay attention to those things you often neglect or may have changed ages ago and forgotten.

Finally, if all else fails, try the ROM update again. Sometimes things go wrong.

Sorry if this seems like a rant, I just want people having issues to place blame where it truly belongs. After considering these matters, if you still have problems, definitely let HTC and the rest of us know.

Best Regards,
Aaron

[wsparvis]

I haven't updated yet, plan to over the weekend, but I would suggest anyone having problems to stop and consider their setup first...

1. What programs are installed that could cause problems?
2. What registry hacks have been done that may cause problems?
3. What configuration settings might need reset that may cause problems?


For example, after a hard reset, Enhanced Network over USB is enabled by default, and this often causes Active Sync to have issues. Likewise, power management tweaks will have reverted to defaults and you may like a more finely tuned setup.

As for memory leaks being better/worse, you may have programs installed that are out of date/buggy.

I realize it's easier to jump on the "this sucks" bandwagon, but it doesn't help you or other users with legitimate problems when no consideration is given to what is causing a given problem.

These situations are precisely why the instructions tell you that EVERYTHING will be erased. This is a good thing since it forces you to clean house, but it also means you have to pay attention to those things you often neglect or may have changed ages ago and forgotten.

Finally, if all else fails, try the ROM update again. Sometimes things go wrong.

Sorry if this seems like a rant, I just want people having issues to place blame where it truly belongs. After considering these matters, if you still have problems, definitely let HTC and the rest of us know.

Best Regards,
Aaron

My experience is as simple and "vanilla" as it gets:

-Loaded new ROM
-Hard reset
-Stopped customizations
-Installed NO apps, did not turn on BT, made no calls, did nothing else
-3 DSODs in 4 hours

-Did a second flash (from a second computer with a freshly downloaded ROM)
-Hard reset
-Allowed customizations to run
-Again no apps, BT or calls
-DSOD within an hour

[GoodThings2Life]

My experience is as simple and "vanilla" as it gets:

-Loaded new ROM
-Hard reset
-Stopped customizations
-Installed NO apps, did not turn on BT, made no calls, did nothing else
-3 DSODs in 4 hours

-Did a second flash (from a second computer with a freshly downloaded ROM)
-Hard reset
-Allowed customizations to run
-Again no apps, BT or calls
-DSOD within an hour

Sounds atypical to me, given that most users are updating without issue and experiencing better results. I have no reason to doubt your experience though... it sounds like you have faulty hardware, but here's a download link to the previous firmware if you're interested in trying it out first:

http://www.htcamerica.net/support/mogul/software-downloads.html

[mitsu@syntheticzero.com]

No, "most" users are not experiencing better results. I've been using this ROM with poor results, as have many others. Read this thread for many sad tales of woe:

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=10302

Basically, the new ROM does fix a bunch of things, but breaks others, so I would not recommend installing this ROM.

1) Locks up when changing from Sprint to roaming. You can test this by manually switching from Sprint to roaming and back a few times, you WILL get a phone lockup.

2) BT turns off randomly for many users.

3) Turn on BT, let unit sit for a few minutes until it goes to sleep, turn unit back on, dpad no longer works. I have seen this myself many times.

Don't install this update --- use the Alltel ROM or wait for another update.

[wsparvis]

Sounds atypical to me, given that most users are updating without issue and experiencing better results. I have no reason to doubt your experience though... it sounds like you have faulty hardware, but here's a download link to the previous firmware if you're interested in trying it out first:

http://www.htcamerica.net/support/mogul/software-downloads.html

1) You're incorrect in stating that most users have no problems, etc. Some do, some don't. Read the posts at ppcgeeks, pdaphonehome, BAW, hofo. I am not at all alone in having problems.

2) I downgraded 2 days ago, and my Mogul runs fine again - just exactly like it did for the 1st 3 months I had it. It's not my hardware! It's a bad ROM release.

[papped]

Not everyone uses the phone in the same way at all. So of course some people will not see the same problems that others do.

[mitsu@syntheticzero.com]

If you never use Bluetooth and never roam, then this ROM will work for you. Otherwise, it will cause problems. For me, Bluetooth works much better in 2.09, and I rarely if ever see lockups as I have with 2.16. So, I'm going with 2.09 for now. The alarm problem IS fixed in 2.16 but I never use alarms on my phone so it's not an issue for me. Freezes when roaming ARE a problem.

[vst_ace]

do yourself a favor and wait for the next rom. If you didn't already experiance it, your device will lock up and go to sleep requiring a soft reset...very unusable. and BT will turn off after a few minutes randomly.

load the colonel's rom on, it's much better imho

is colonels rom built on the alltel core rom? if so it may be our best bet as of now.

[vMAC]

I'm sorry to all of those that are having problems but mine isn't. I use the phone a lot too, before this ROM update I was having tons a problems with the battery life and the alarm. Both problems are now fixed. I never had a problem with the bluetooth it worked fine from the beginning on my phone and I use it for everything from Activesync to my H700 which never leaves my head. As for those people having lockups, I've had 1 lockup since loading this ROM, before loading this ROM my phone would lockup everytime I ran SPB Backup and would also lockup randomly every day or so. Having this ROM loaded on my phone for the last 4 days I've only had one which is a huge + in my book.

So I'm sorry that you are having problems but the majority of people aren't just check out the polls on ppcgeeks.com

[dew.man]

So I'm sorry that you are having problems but the majority of people aren't just check out the polls on ppcgeeks.com

Last I checked, nearly half the respondents were having problems!

Personally, I was fine with the upgrade over a weekend until I had to drive to work when I found that it would lock up when switching/crossing through a 1X area.

Downgrading the radio to 1.40 with the Sprint 2.16 ROM seems to have fixed the problem for me, but the released Sprint ROM is definately flawed!

[vMAC]

That's what I said, the majority aren't having the problems. Nearly half is less than a majority.

[sefstrat]

Running mine with this ROM for one week now, I have none of the problems mentioned with bluetooth/roaming either. The one problem I do have is wifi cutting off sometimes, but it had that problem with the old ROM as well.

[dew.man]

That's what I said, the majority aren't having the problems. Nearly half is less than a majority.

My point was that you made it sound like it was safe to upgrade to the new rom which, in reality, is a crap-shoot. This is evidenced by the fact that HTC has removed the update from their site (at least as it was linked from Support).

As for the poll, if you take the number of people who have not upgraded and combine them with the people having problems, you get a much larger number than the people that are running the upgrade w/o issue...