no prophet acts the same

[gullum]

Ok strange thing here

I have 2 prophets with same set up
IPL 2.20.0001
SPL 2.20.0001
Radio rom 2.20.21

flashed with the same WM5 the prophet touch IX

dow to the strange thing
prophet 1 26.8Mb Memory ideal at 103mA after soft reset
prophet 2 25.8Mb Memory ideal at 86mA after soft reset

so battery drain is not only related to rom but also hardware and why does one have 1 mb more free memory?

this is just a strange opservation I made

[RiWaLE]

both have the same cell operator ?

If not ... maybe GPRS or EDGE is available for one of them.

Or the date of manufacturing is different.

[hma4]

when you look at their battery consumption ,did both batteries had the same amount of charge ? charge both of them to 100% then soft reset, then wait for os dll to get unloaded .. ( wait for 1 min) then look at their battery consumption :)

[tb146]

when you look at their battery consumption ,did both batteries had the same amount of charge ? charge both of them to 100% then soft reset, then wait for os dll to get unloaded .. ( wait for 1 min) then look at their battery consumption :)

Hi Gullum,

I think it is because of the hardware itself since the manufacture cannot make 100% hardware similiarity.

New hardware will better than old hardware, the operational time will effected to the performance. Just like you have 2 cars with the same manufacture but different production year, the new one will better than old one.

Even they produced in the same time, the hardware not 100% the same. may be only 95% similar.

Twins person not the same also :D but looks alike.

Because of this hardware, so everyone who is using the prophet will have different problem.


Cheers

[gullum]

Well this is good news for me :D but bad news for some

now I know that some problems are not software related always.
and then there is no way that I can make rom that has the same power useage on all phones.

the bad news is that if the battery useage is good for some and not for you there isn't much you can do about it :(

[tb146]

Well this is good news for me :D but bad news for some

now I know that some problems are not software related always.
and then there is no way that I can make rom that has the same power useage on all phones.

the bad news is that if the battery useage is good for some and not for you there isn't much you can do about it :(

Just additional information for electronic hardware.
Every electronic part has own MTBF - Mean Time Before Failure, so if you use bluetooth frequently, the bluetooth hardware will fail faster than others part.

If you charge your electronic frequently, the battery will be broken sooner.
As i know PDA battery will last after you charge around 500-1000 times depend on the manufacture. Let say you charge the battery every 2 days, so the battery will last between 1000 - 2000 days.

So everybody will get different problem with their electronics because it depend on what they have done to their things.

Cheers

[lastnikita]

Did you test both after hard reset with SIM card off ? You should give it a try :)
But consumption differences can easily be explained by different mainboard & components revisions & firmwares..

now I know that some problems are not software related always

Well, this is not really a problem. The problem is when the battery drains an additional 50/100mA over another prophet or other ROMs..
That is for sure a driver problem.

The really strange thing for me is that 1mo !!!
Where's it gone ? :D

[panda88]

For battery drain, i always get more than 1% per hour. Until one day, i removed all my today items(in fact only device lock) and left only home plugin. After a full charge, I experienced only 5% drop over the next 10hours. I was using Crystal V3 and radio rom 2.19.21. The battery drain is slightly more when tested with 2.69.21. I am quite sure it works since I have tested this method on both G3 (mine and my buddy's).

Another thing. While it is achievable, you must ensure Activesync is not running in the background. There was once instance the battery drained 14% within half an hour and I realised it was Activesync that run in the background. Strange it does not terminate itself when i pulled out the USB cable???

Anyway the above is based on my observation so you may give it a try. Hope it helps.

[gullum]

Did you test both after hard reset with SIM card off ? You should give it a try :)
But consumption differences can easily be explained by different mainboard & components revisions & firmwares..



Well, this is not really a problem. The problem is when the battery drains an additional 50/100mA over another prophet or other ROMs..
That is for sure a driver problem.

The really strange thing for me is that 1mo !!!
Where's it gone ? :D


Yes it's a realy strange thing I tried to swap battery and checked then change sim cards but made no differance there is still the same battery and mb differance.

[lastnikita]

Hey would you test both of them in same config (same rom, HR, sim off & suspend timeout off) with spb benchmark or any other ? Could be interesting..
It's about 1h job (disable built-in applications tests, because they often fail) for main test, the best would be to test battery too but I suppose it will be too long for you.