Guide on how to unlock an Orange TyTN II (T-mobile Vario III, HTC P4550, Tilt)

[lkw]

Guide on how to unlock an Orange TYTN II by UKBATMAN (from post #55)

Want another guide? See post #217 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2121052&postcount=217)

Please note this phone is also known as: HTC Kaiser (T-mobile Vario III, HTC P4550, HTC TyTN II, AT&T Tilt)
On your phone do the following START / SETTINGS / CONECTIONS / USB TO PC. Remove the tick “Enable advanced network functionality”
Using Activesync 4.5 to copy all your contacts / phone data to outlook Activesync 4.5 can be downloaded here: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/activesync/activesync45.mspx
Removing the “SIM LOCK”, the mobile network provider of your phone could have added a “SIM LOCK”.
An easy way to check this is by inserting another network provider’s Sim into your phone, if your phone works please jump to the next step.
If not I was able to unlock my phone using the following link:http://www.imei-check.co.uk/kaiser-unlock.php
Additionally I believe user tupisdin can also provide this service for a nominal fee.
Or you could use OliPro's SIM/CID Unlocker (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=375583) or Jockyw2001's SIM Unlocker (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=361039)
Removing the “CID LOCK”, the mobile network provider of your phone would have added a “CID LOCK”.
POF has the answer for this, follow this link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334679
New ROM, once the “CID LOCK” has been removed you will need a new ROM, follow this link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=331900
Locate and download RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_1.56.405.5_radio_sign_22.45.88. 07_1.27.12.11_Ship.exe.
Connect your TYTN II to your pc wait for the green ActievSync symbol and run the RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_1.56.405.5_radio_sign_22.45.88. 07_1.27.12.11_Ship.exe file.
The only thing I do not like is you get a splash screen saying “smart Mobility” Splash ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Uploads/Kaiser/Splash/Additional information and Rom’s can be found here
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser

I hope this helps, If anyone can locate new / updated roms please post the links. PS. I'm a newbie at flashing but I hope I have made it as plain and simple as possible for my fellow newbies.

Many thanks for xda-developers as I now have an Orange TYTN II unlocked and rid of Orange software.

Enjoy UKBATMAN.

ROM version: 1.56.405.5
ROM date: 08/28/07
Radio versio: 1.27.12.11
Protocol version: 22.45.88.07H

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Original post by lkw:


Hi,

I've got myself an orange branded kaiser last week and managed to CID-unlock (thanks pof) and and SIM-unlock (thanks tupisdin) the device. but I've read few threads mentioning not to flash any rom to it no matter what. Just wanted to know if anyone has managed to flash a cooked rom sucessfully to an orange branded kaiser. Any gotchas, also is there an Orange rom as backup just in case for warranty.

Regards
lkw

[bigchemist]

Please help!
I hard-spl'd and ran the HTC RUU.. and after that the phone nicely restarted and asked me for an unlocking Simlock code...

WHAT? which sim card lock? I didnt change the sim...its an Orange UK one..

I tried looking for answers..but the topic seems to be all over the place!

is there a short answer?

Thanks

[sl_uk2]

yes the short answer is you have your phone locked out of all networks

you should have read the forum before

but as you found the forum if you contact tupisdin and make a donation to xda he will unlock it for you

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=314547

you can get it from orange for £20.00 but it will take 3 weeks

sorry

steven

[bigchemist]

Thanks alot for the informaiton,

I got in contact with that member and he told me what donation I need to make... That its just after I got off the phone from Orange CS. I managed to get it off them for free (They tried charging me, but as im a silly heavy user +£100 a month for the past three years, they decided to let it off for free)

However, as you say, it might take 5-15 working days... therefore, I will have a rather fancy TomTom Navigator without a phone!!!.

I am trying to understand what went wrong.. how come it got locked up? and is there a way to undo this?

[Deathace]

Taking a wild stab in the dark I would guess that orange have managed to do more than just change the os keeping the simlock in place however flashing to another rom may have scuppered that setup and as it has not found the orange rom it sees it as incompatible and therefore pops up the sim unlock feature of the phone to release the phone from orange.

bit of a sneaky way of doing things but highly possible if they have all the developer kit from HTC as to what they can do with the phone. It seems that the sim was linked to the rom somehow.

Russ

[UKTamo]

Hi

I plan on doing the same think with my Orange UK TyTn II tomorrow when I get it.


I am only flashing the OS...am I correct in assuming you flashed everything including the radio stack?

Thanks

Thomas

[bigchemist]

I guess I did...

although I sepnet like 4 hour reading about what needs to be done... until when the sh$£ hit the fan..only then i started see all the bells and whistels mentioneing CAUSION... WARNING... DO NOT FLASH ORANGE UK!!!

Oh Welll

Now what is puzzelling me even more the following:

On the TYTN II box, there is a sticker with the IMEI number.. which is exactly the same as the one on the tag under the battery...

NOW.. after having flashed the thing...I checked IMEI thru Hardware details in settings... and surpise surprise: there are two more digits at the end of that same IMEI! so its the same number but with a 01 at the end...

What happend here? I thought a simple flash will not touch your imei...

Yet another thing to screw things up for OS Changers!

[bigchemist]

All Resolved.. IMEI code entered.. Phone unlocked.. Everyone lives happily Ever After!

[benl2k]

A couple of weeks ago I was all ready for getting my new Kaiser from a website offering unbranded HTCs on Vodafone. The price of these was not cheap at £210 for the phone and £40 a month line rental but I was prepared to pay that just so I could get an unbranded, un-tainted version of the Kaiser, that is until I rang up Orange to cancel my contract and obtain the PAC code that lets you keep your existing number. During this call they offered me a free Kaiser plus a better contract if I stayed with them. I had a feeling that Orange might have screwed around with the software so I said that I would go into the Orange shop and have a look at one before I took them up on this offer. When I managed to get to check out the Orange Kaiser I saw that as expected Orange had completely ruined a perfectly good phone, AGAIN!

My question is how easy is it to debrand the Orange Kaisers. I've seen all the messages saying there's a big risk of sim locking etc etc. But I want to know from people that have unlocked their phones successfully/unsuccessfully how difficult it is. I've de-branded phones in the past so I have a decent understanding.

I also want to know how much of the Orangeness can be removed. Is it removed totally or are there still traces of the rubbish software left? Also how does the de-branding affect the phones features? Do you lose any of the features by de-branding?

Finally what are peoples opinions on whether to go for the free branded Kaiser and unlocking it or spending £210 for the unbranded?

Your replies will be much appreciated

Ben

[cappuccino]

everything of the orange shit can be removed. If you flash your ROM with one of the cooked here -or even the offical HTC ones- it's gone. Done it myself, now running Dutty's ROM. Go for the cheapest and get your cooked ROM's on this forum :)

[mmm_ok]

You can install the HTC shipped ROM on an orange phone... I did this because I use windows live messenger and Orange have removed it from their ROM.

BUT...

You will have to pay to SIM unlock your phone (£20 from EMEI-CHECK or £25 from this site - don't even get me started on that)

That's ok if you build it into your calculations of the cost of the phone. Just remember, "de-branding" your phone with the HTC ROM will cost ya.

I'd highly recommend it... and downloading the TomTom taster too (another thing orange have removed - doh!)

[cuboosh]

why would he have to pay? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334679

[ratcom]

why would he have to pay? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334679
Because that only CID unlocks the phone which is different to the sim card lock which I believe engages itself when flashing a rom onto a orange kaiser the first time around.

[cuboosh]

correction;

FEATURES

SuperCID / Security Level=0
Does not check NBH signatures
Based on 1.50 MFG bootloader, rtask enabled
Accept any password
Model ID check only 4 chars
SPL overwrite DISABLED (to bypass, use SSPL-KAIS.exe)

SUPER-CID is mean can unlock carrier too. example.. use at&t tilt on t-mobile and so on

[ratcom]

correction;

FEATURES

SuperCID / Security Level=0
Does not check NBH signatures
Based on 1.50 MFG bootloader, rtask enabled
Accept any password
Model ID check only 4 chars
SPL overwrite DISABLED (to bypass, use SSPL-KAIS.exe)

SUPER-CID is mean can unlock carrier too. example.. use at&t tilt on t-mobile and so on
Sorry I not going to bite on this one :rolleyes: I'm just ask you to think long and hard about what you have just said and if you have any free time read up on the differences of CID lock and SIM lock.

[bigchemist]

Im gonna have to agree with Ratcom...

I tried it myself..i got out of business for three days (that being my phone simlocked)

The CID unlock thread mate-y is talking about doesnt seem to leave Prange UK TYTN II any happy!...

I am now Running Duttys latest (with two russian imperfections lol) and its beautiful...If orange are offering it to you for fre.. id go for that and by loading duttys ROM.. you'd be well pleased!

[sub69]

If benl2k is happy to stick with Orange and use an Orange SIM , then (s)he won't need to SIM unlock it (although I'm sure that free SIM unlocking will come along in time if you keep checking out XDA-Devs).

The question was about getting rid of the Orange rubbish/crippling, and that can be done easily using the info on this forum...

[benl2k]

bigchemist, what are the 2 imperfections you mentioned? Also how exactly did you get rid of the sim-lock. Am I correct in understanding that when you flash the Orange ROM it locks the phone so that not even your Orange sim will work with the device?

[silent_killa]

HARDSPL should be installed before flashing any ROM on your device.
Orange UK seemed to have made substantial changes to the Radio ROM of this device.
Any Orange UK Kaiser user should only flash the OS part of the ROM. DO NOT flash any Radio ROM until this has looked into further. Flashing any Radio ROM on an Orange UK device will result in the device being completely SIM Locked (even to Orange), unless you SIM unlock your device first. You can SIM unlock if you have already flashed an alternate radio but atm there are no free ways to do this. Have not tried flashing Splash screens but one would assume that this would be OK.
HARDSPL does not SIM unlock your device. It CID unlocks your device so you can flash alternate vendor ROMs.

[crystal_clear]

so i take it once you unlock the sim lock - cost 20 quid, you can then do anything you want, like cid removal without any fear of locking the phone out again??? once its unlocked the first time, you never have to worry about a second lock popping out the blue????

[silent_killa]

Unless a carrier releases a ROM that can re-lock your SIM, then thats correct.
Haven't ever seen a ROM release that can do that so you should be safe.

[forza]

I guess I did...
On the TYTN II box, there is a sticker with the IMEI number.. which is exactly the same as the one on the tag under the battery...

NOW.. after having flashed the thing...I checked IMEI thru Hardware details in settings... and surpise surprise: there are two more digits at the end of that same IMEI! so its the same number but with a 01 at the end...

What happend here? I thought a simple flash will not touch your imei...

Yet another thing to screw things up for OS Changers!

I haven't flashed my new Kaiser from Orange UK (yet!) and the IMEI number shown in Device Information also has an '01' at the end which the sticker on the box and under the battery does not have. Therefore I do not think that flashing a different radio and ROM affects the IMEI on the device.

To be clear to anyone reading this - it is the flashing of a different RADIO rom that appears to cause the problem, an OS only flash seems to be fine.


All Resolved.. IMEI code entered.. Phone unlocked.. Everyone lives happily Ever After!


IMEI code entered where?

[UKTamo]

I've flashed mine : )

Just make sure you flash the OS only. you'll be left with a orange splash screen...that's it! If you need a hand IM me...

Such a difference from the orange rom!

[bigchemist]

silent_killa got it right... flashing the radio on your Orange UK TYTN II will cause the simlock to reject any sim..even Orange one.

Now, asfter I had the simlock... I paid to get it unlocked..and since then I flashed the phone 3 times in one day! lool a bit crazy..but im trying to figure out the best ones...

So far Dutty's latest is absolutely great.. fasst.. long battery . the two little imperfections so far are the russian writing in the 'To' and 'Subject' lines in SMS.. which do not bother me at all.. its wither that I downloded the ROM before he put the fix, or the mirror file i got still had the old ROM on it.

One thing..which I am still unsure about is the following:

After unlocking the device @ 2345 5/Nov/07 I Had the Dopod ROM that was posted on the forum... it seemed to be a far asia ROM as far as i could tell... The one thing I noticed was the Super fast download rate.. I was straming from audio from a site and SPB GPRS Monitor was showing download rate of 450Kb.s! I was Stunned! Now..scene No2: @ 22:30 06/Nov/07 Flashed with Duttys ROM.. tried the same site.. the Max it would go to was 140KB.s.

Will keep an eye on that and let you know

I know that there are alot of factors that could affect the download speed.. but i still reserve my opinion about that point until i test them both in the same night

[bigchemist]

Sorry about the confusion...
IMEI Code = The code generated from IMEI to unlock the sim.. its the code i paid £25 to get!

[crystal_clear]

so we have now established that once unlocked it cant relock and cause problems....

however, can someone help me out with an unlocking tool to unlock it...

then some pointers on the next stages in the process - end result being to get a phone back from an orange rom state!

will be putting htc's shipping rom on it, unless someone can offer another better solution to use...

open to offers, need good instructions and links please

cheers

[benl2k]

Right, my Orange Kaiser is now ordered and will be arriving Friday. I'm now trying to ensure that I know exactly what I'm doing before I risk bricking my brand new piece of kit. These are the steps as I understand them, please correct me if I'm wrong.
1. Get my phone unlocked to any network.
2. Backup my Orange ROM in case I need to send it back for any reason.
3. Download Duttys ROM, what is the difference between this and the standard HTC ROM?
4. Flash my OS ROM (NOT the radio one) with Duttys ROM (Could anyone give me a link to the software I use to do this?)
5. Enjoy my Orange free phone.

Any links to the threads where the relevant guides can be found would be much appreciated.

Cheers

Ben

[chrisnash]

I've got an HTC brandednTyTN II with an Orange SIM. The generic Radio with it is awful on the Orange network. Do you think its worth upgrading the radio to theOrange shipped one?

[edgley]

When I asked I was told there wasnt any real differance between the orange and htc rom.
I am still using the orange one and cannt see anything wrong with it.

[crystal_clear]

so what i need now is a rom, that leaves the radio well alone, links please.......

but not ones that alter the radio side of things.....

[Behold]

I have an Orange UK Kaiser and i too hate the Orange Branding.

I am slowly removing all traces of the orange branding.

At present I have done

HTC Default Theme
Windows Live install
HTC Sim Manager to the Latest
Schen Kaiser 3G dialer for the black dialer (Best i have found so far)
HTC Home
and the JUVS HTC Album from the touch

The only bits still orane are a few icons they made more orange in colour. Assessories and Address book (Only ever seen in the program menu)

and the start up screen. Ooooh and the back cover.

I find the rom is stable and no running issues.

I have also added the KTweeks and black keyboard to me device to alter the device further. all thats left now is the calculator.....

[benl2k]

Could you please post links to where you got these from behold? Have you not flashed the ROM at all then?

[dbkid]

everything of the orange shit can be removed. If you flash your ROM with one of the cooked here -or even the offical HTC ones- it's gone. Done it myself, now running Dutty's ROM. Go for the cheapest and get your cooked ROM's on this forum :)

Hi All,

please excuse my ignorance about all this....I myself have been duped into buying an Orange version of the HTC TyTn II.....sans TOMTOM, MSN & Home Screen.... :(

I didn't even know it was any different until i got it home!

But I do love this phone so far, and has ALL the right features.....

However, I'm just a bit wary of rom cooking my brand new deviceto make it like the original....especially since this all invalidates the warranty!

Can anyway pls humour us poor Orange HTC TyTn II users and explain in full detail how to do it....step by step?

Thanks in advance....or maybe there's a link on here that someone can point me to?

Btw: I had a go at an Orange Customer services guy about the branding and software hacking they do - taking away the soul of the machine they're selling......he was very apologetic, but said maybe I should just go to Offcom and complain about it as that's all one can advise. Criminal! haha

Why should branded phones be any different to the reviewed and original HTC versions? All it does is make for a lesser phone....in my humble opinion....am i wrong?

Just seems a bit rushed in time for the iPhone release date.

The HTC TyTnII is the iPhone killer, but not with crappy networks ruining it's software for everyone....

Peace dBkid:cool:

[benl2k]

Wow! I'm really impressed, the people at www.imei-check.co.uk REALLY did unlock my phone in about 10 minutes! I was really dubious about whether it was legit or not, especially as they asked me to email them a copy of my driving licence or other id to prove my pay pal account was legit. I will let you know if I get frauded but so far so good.

Anyway, now that I have unlocked my Orange Kaiser to any network does that mean that I can install other ROMs, including the radio ROM without bricking/sim locking my phone, or is this still a big no no on Orange?

[silent_killa]

Wow! I'm really impressed, the people at www.imei-check.co.uk REALLY did unlock my phone in about 10 minutes! I was really dubious about whether it was legit or not, especially as they asked me to email them a copy of my driving licence or other id to prove my pay pal account was legit. I will let you know if I get frauded but so far so good.

Anyway, now that I have unlocked my Orange Kaiser to any network does that mean that I can install other ROMs, including the radio ROM without bricking/sim locking my phone, or is this still a big no no on Orange?

You can flash any ROM now which includes a radio. Ensure you read the wiki first and put hardspl on before you flash anything else.
Other users with a simlocked Orange handset (like me), can still flash OS only.
To be honest, there is no radio with any significant improvements than what we have yet.
Hang in there people, a workaround/sim unlock tool will eventually surface. Just be careful what you flash.

[benl2k]

Cheers Silent Killa, I will give it a go tomorrow. First though I want to back up the Orange ROM so I can go back to it if needs be. I've read a few posts on this but couldn't see anything that told me how to do it. Can tools such as spb and sprite be used for this or do they only back up the data?

[svssolutions]

Hi,
I have just taken delivery of a New TYTN II from Orange UK due to the first one being sim locked by me and trying to flash the rom. I want to get rid of the orange stuff and use the HTC generic one but I want to make sure that I dont screw this one up.

what do I need to do?

do I need to dump the rom first in case of any screw ups or am I supposed to just change the OS file and leave the radio etc alone? if so how to I do this?

I have got the HTC rom that I want to put on the device I just need to know how I am meant to do this.

Thanks

[crystal_clear]

i have a strange feeling the htc rom, has the radio bits within - you might be better leaving that rom alone, try dutty's rom, that deffo doesnt alter the radio bits

hope that helps you some

[benl2k]

hi,
dont know if you got an answer to you questions elsewhere cos I notice your post is a couple of weeks old but yes you can and people have successfully flashed other ROMs onto their Orange branded Kaisers. What you have to be careful about is sim locking the phone which can be avoided either by flashing only the OS ROM and not the radio ROM or get you phone sim unlocked before you flash it which can be done for £20 at http://www.imei-check.co.uk/kaiser-unlock.php. I did this myself yesterday and got an unlock code within about 10 mins. they do ask that you email them some id to prove that the paypal account is yours (as you have to pay via paypal). I thought this was a bit strange but I know a lot of people have recommended the site so I sent the ID and got an email pretty much straight back with the unlock code.

I am going to flash the phone today and apparently now its unlocked to any network I can now flash all parts of the ROM without sim unlocking it. I also want to back up my Orange ROM for warranty purposes like you. I have read about some software (sprite and spb) but Im not sure if these can be used to backup the ROM or not.

This thread might be useful for you to read if you havent already flashed your phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=342630

[lkw]

Thanks mate, appreciate the response. I did managed to flash dutty's RTM version and works fine. I even managed to dump and reconstruct my original rom in case for warranty

[Behold]

Once i have a full detailed list and it is perfect it will all be posted. its still a working progress. i have now found i have no ringtones working.....

[benl2k]

ah right, how did you dump the original rom? thats what im trying to do at the moment.

[lkw]

I used this method from pof

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334680

[benl2k]

Cheers. I found it in the end anyway. Got Duttys ROM on now. So much better than Orange crap!!! What a set of idiots!

[BumFluff]

hey every one,

ive just ordered my tytn ii on orange and just like the rest of you i didnt know until after ide signed that it has none of the features installed that it was advertised with as orange have removed them all :mad:

now i have spent all day reading on how to do this rom flashing and im more confused than i was before. there's about 3 ways i can see to do it and 20 diff programs you can use :confused: so like the last few posts im interested in a noobs walk through for doing this with out bricking my new baby :D

Luke

[benl2k]

Here are the steps i went through

1. Sim unlock your kaiser at http://www.imei-check.co.uk/kaiser-unlock.php
Costs £20, code will get sent very quickly but they do ask you to email them some id in the form of driving license or passport to verify your paypal account. (Bit weird I know)

2. Hard-SPL flash your phone as in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334679
The file kaiser-HardSPLv1.zip is attached to the bottom of the first post. All you need to do is run the exe and follow the steps in the thread. It tells you to re-connect your kaiser to active sync and wait for it to go green after you unplug the usb cable. For me this didn't work, I just carried on with the steps anyway and it worked.

3. Backup your Orange ROM for warranty purposes (OPTIONAL) using this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334680
You will need to download isutils from here:
http://www.xs4all.nl/%7Eitsme/projects/xda/tools.html

isutils contains pdocread which is the software you run to do the backup.
One thing to be aware of here is that the first step reads the RAW files from your phone and lists them, you then need to make sure the codes match up when you run the second set of commands which backup the RAW files to your PC.

Pdocread is a command utility tool which you use by going to run->cmd on your desktop, navigate to the folder where isutils is (e.g. cd c:\isutils) and then run the code from the thread.

4. Install new ROM such as Duttys which can be downloaded here:
http://rapidshare.com/files/68847617/Dutty_s_Hybrid_Build_No.4_RTM.zip

All you need to do for this is run the exe and follow the steps, quite simple really.

Make sure you read through these threads thoroughly before you do any flashing and don't forget, anything you do is up to you so don't blame me if your phone gets bricked. Not that it will.

[bigstick]

Thanks for the info everyone has posted so far, very helpful.
I am not a WM6 expert, so I need a little more info before I start, so please bear with me :)

If I go through this process, I assume I will have to do a hard reset, or that the process will do one.

What will I lose with this process in terms of preferences and installed applications? I'm assuming that it is everything, but how much will be restored via Activesync?

I am assuming that I will need to reinstall and configure all my applications.

How clear is is that we will flash only part of the ROM, and not the radio ROM?
Is this straightforward in the installation process?

Once the phone is unlocked, am I disconnected from Orange? Do I need to do anything at any stage to re-enable the e-mail, sms, internet, GPRS, HSDPA settings?

Thanks!

[Sleuth255]

SIMLock is a part of the radio rom. You can safely flash any cooked rom here except Kyphur's without SIM locking your Kaiser. Kyphur's ROM is derived from the aku 0.4.4 AT&T ROM which requires a matching radio.

Your steps to de-brand Orange would be:

1. Install HardSPL
2. Flash the cooked rom of your choice from either Dutty or myself.

Page 1 of my ROM thread contains step by step instructions along with all necessary links. I also have links to TomTom, VoIP and several other useful utilities you can use once you've divested yourself of the Orange propaganda...

[invictive]

Thanks for the info everyone has posted so far, very helpful.
I am not a WM6 expert, so I need a little more info before I start, so please bear with me :)

If I go through this process, I assume I will have to do a hard reset, or that the process will do one.

What will I lose with this process in terms of preferences and installed applications? I'm assuming that it is everything, but how much will be restored via Activesync?

I am assuming that I will need to reinstall and configure all my applications.

How clear is is that we will flash only part of the ROM, and not the radio ROM?
Is this straightforward in the installation process?

Once the phone is unlocked, am I disconnected from Orange? Do I need to do anything at any stage to re-enable the e-mail, sms, internet, GPRS, HSDPA settings?

Thanks!

Yes you will lose everything stored on your phone. Activesync will bring back your contacts, calendar, emails, notes, files and anything else you have it setup to sync. All of your personal settings will be lost, as will all of your programs.

Different Rom's flash different things, dutty's rom (the best imo) flashes just your OS, but the original HTC rom flashes your OS and your Radio. You can also extract parts of a ROM before flashing it if you want (read the forums).

Once the phone is unlocked you can use it with ANY carrier, including your old one. However likely all of your settings will be lost (for internet, mms, sms, etc) so you may have to re-enter it (info should be available on here or from your telco)

[benl2k]

Thanks for the info everyone has posted so far, very helpful.
I am not a WM6 expert, so I need a little more info before I start, so please bear with me :)

If I go through this process, I assume I will have to do a hard reset, or that the process will do one.

What will I lose with this process in terms of preferences and installed applications? I'm assuming that it is everything, but how much will be restored via Activesync?

I am assuming that I will need to reinstall and configure all my applications.

How clear is is that we will flash only part of the ROM, and not the radio ROM?
Is this straightforward in the installation process?

Once the phone is unlocked, am I disconnected from Orange? Do I need to do anything at any stage to re-enable the e-mail, sms, internet, GPRS, HSDPA settings?

Thanks!

You will lose all your applications and all your data. Backup all your contacts, pictures etc etc via activesync first. Once the flash is complete your phone will reconfigure itself with the Orange settings. I'm not sure about your other question about flashing radio only as I've only tried one ROM.

[cjkerr]

Thanks for the posts. Would you be able to share the standard Orange UK ROM to save the rest of us ammatures buggering up our phones? :confused:

[Henrybank]

I'm exactly in the same situation as you

Got my Kaiser from Orange UK, sim unlocked, installed Hard-SPL and now ready to install the original HTC shipped rom with radio and splash screen. (exe version)

I read the answer that silent_killa gave you and I think I should be able to upgrade the radio as well now.

But before proceeding I was just wondering:

did you do it n the end? or are you still with the original radio from orange?

Thanking you in advance

Enrico

[Sleuth255]

Those of you who are considering the original TyTN II ROM should use mine instead. It is the original TyTN II ROM but with 15 megs more storage along with necessary reghacks and fixes identified in this forum. As an added benefit, it won't change your radio so paying for a SIM unlock is unnecessary.

[sonny-67]

Have any of you with Orange Kaisers received the message

"Could not update itsutils.dll to the current version, maybe it is inuse? try restarting your device, or restart activesync or maybe your device is application-locked."

I know that the post on backing up your ROM gives instructions to do a registry tweak to resolve this issue, but I am not yet comfortable with doing a reg tweak. Is there any way round this, or maybe a detailed description of the steps required for the registry tweak.

Also, can anyone post a screenshot of the "two little imperfections so far are the russian writing in the 'To' and 'Subject' lines in SMS", so that I have an idea of how minor this is.

Thanks.

[bigstick]

Afew more questions, sorry!

I am in the process of unlocking my phone. Can I still use it as normal after that?

[Edit: should have read benl2k's post about Orange settings reconfiguring automatically - the following is no longer relevant if he is correct]

Where do I get the Orange connection settings from? Is there some sort of neat little app which does it automatically? If so where do I get it from?

Failing that, does anyone have any information for re-entering the settings?

[bigstick]

Yet more stupid questions-
What benefits do I get from removing the Orange branding?
I am hoping that it will improve the sluggish performance, but I believe there are other benefits too.

Also, which is the best ROM to use. On the thread relating to Dutty's modified ROM, I see lots and lots of problems. Some get fixed, but others arise. Most worryingly a problem with an inability to hard reset.

Is it really worth it? Is Sleuth's ROM less trouble? It also appears to me that both Sleuth and Dutty's ROMs are based on WM5, but my Tytn II has WM6. Is this downgrading?

[Sleuth255]

All ROMs here are based on WM6. My ROM is directly based on the released TyTN II ROM. By this I mean that there have been no additions/removals. I've only changed the registry to cook in fixes to known bugs, downgraded a PIE dll to fix a scroll delay issue and built with tadzio's bigstorage tools to give you 15megs more storage ROM. I believe this makes my ROM the most compatible alternative to a production ROM that you can install on a Kaiser atm.

[bigstick]

I have successfully unloacked and flashed my Orange HTC Tytn II (kaiser)! Thanks to everyone for all the help and advice. It wasn't as scary as I feared, but you do need to do some research and make sure you follow the instructions.

As advised, the Orange network settings automatically installed without prompting.

So far, stable, as you would expect, but in terms of benefits, yes the system seems faster, and there are a couple of additional apps, but I had these anyway. You can remove the crappy Orange home screen by selecting it in the Today options, so apart from the speed, which is nice - obviously, I'm not sure what advantages I have got.

Regarding the question of, "Is it really worth it?", well, actually I'm not 100% convinced - yet...

I risked 'bricking' my phone, and had to spend hours reconfiguring everything, and just for a bit more speed. However it is early days yet, and if I come to a firm conclusion either way, I'll let you know.

[Edit: First ever WM6 crash - not what I was expecting...]

[daz.clayton]

this is a fix for when you are a noob like me and naff things up like i did and lock myself out my TYTN II where it says enter sim code to unlock.

Note: This Will Only Work with the original sim and is not an unlocker for all networks..


it seems the problem lies with the radio code

thanks to dutty for the fix ;0)

hopefully this helps a few people out


download this FILE HERE (http://www.cinetsystems.com/xda/Kaiser%20Radio%20Only%20Upgrades/KAIS_Radio_Only_1.27.14.09_CustomRUU.rar) and run it and it will fix the problem and let you back in






downside is??? no sound or camera?


but at least it gets u back on to wait for an unlock code lol

[mands1a]

Question for TyTN II (On UK Orange network) users that have used imei.com to sim unlock -

I paid my money and got my code but:

I followed the steps below but I do not get a message asking for the NETWORK CODE - I just have the message saying “The SIM card is missing. You can still make emergency calls if your service provider supports it.”

Instuctions from the imei.com website:

Questions:
How do I enter the code received from you?
Answer:
Please switch your phone off, take battery out.
Please insert the disallowed SIM card (If phone is Orange for example, please insert ANY other sim card EXCEPT Orange)
Put battery back in, power on the phone.
If the you have set up a PIN code on your SIM card, the phone it will ask to enter SIM PIN. Please enter it!
Now phone is asking for NETWORK CODE.
Please enter the code received from us (********).
Phone unlocked now
If you don't have a different SIM card or if the phone has a long timeout to enter the code, power on the phone and when is connected to active sync run on the pc: KAISERv1Unlock.exe ******** .

Am I missing something really obvious - I emailed the support email address but have not had a reply 2 days later and I go on holiday on monday and need this sorted. Any help appreciated.

[florin_m]

Your support question was answered!
We answer EVERY support mail.

Just a general note to all "email" users... "In case you wait for a reply to a mail.... PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE look in YOUR OWN BULK/SPAM FOLDER"
This applies in general to any online experience when using "email" with a spam filter.

And like you can read in your own phone user manual the message "Invalid or missing SIM card" means "Invalid or missing SIM card" it does not mean "Network is locked please enter unlock code..."
The invalid/missing SIM card message can have the following reasons:
- no SIM card in phone (insert a SIM card)
- SIM card inserted wrong in phone (remove SIM card and insert correct way)
- the SIM card has a hardware defect (check if the SIM card is working in another phone)
- SIM card holder or OTHER hardware fault!
- you use a very OLD SIM card (5 Volt version, pre 2003). All new HTC phones can handle 3 Volt SIM cards ONLY (call your provider, get a FREE replacement SIM card, phone number will stay the same)

In case you wait for a reply mail ... PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE look in YOUR OWN BULK/SPAM folder


Question for TyTN II (On UK Orange network) users that have used imei.com to sim unlock -

I paid my money and got my code but:

I followed the steps below but I do not get a message asking for the NETWORK CODE - I just have the message saying “The SIM card is missing. You can still make emergency calls if your service provider supports it.”

Instuctions from the imei.com website:

Questions:
How do I enter the code received from you?
Answer:
Please switch your phone off, take battery out.
Please insert the disallowed SIM card (If phone is Orange for example, please insert ANY other sim card EXCEPT Orange)
Put battery back in, power on the phone.
If the you have set up a PIN code on your SIM card, the phone it will ask to enter SIM PIN. Please enter it!
Now phone is asking for NETWORK CODE.
Please enter the code received from us (********).
Phone unlocked now
If you don't have a different SIM card or if the phone has a long timeout to enter the code, power on the phone and when is connected to active sync run on the pc: KAISERv1Unlock.exe ******** .

Am I missing something really obvious - I emailed the support email address but have not had a reply 2 days later and I go on holiday on monday and need this sorted. Any help appreciated.

[mands1a]

Thanks for your prompt reply - I decided to try one more time before replying and I got...further! (I guess I didn't have the simcard pushed ALL the way into the slot) Now I have a message asking for a SIMLOCK code but I do not have a code set up on the SIM card. If I put the sim card in my old phone I do not get a message asking for a code. Now I am really confused!

[florin_m]

In case you have a support question just write to our support (using a working email address)!!!

[ukbatman]

Guide on how to unlock an Orange TYTN II :)

Please note this phone is also known as: HTC Kaiser (T-mobile Vario III, HTC P4550, HTC TyTN II, AT&T Tilt)

1.
On your phone do the following START / SETTINGS / CONECTIONS / USB TO PC. Remove the tick “Enable advanced network functionality”

2.
Using Activesync 4.5 to copy all your contacts / phone data to outlook Activesync 4.5 can be downloaded here: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/activesync/activesync45.mspx

3.
Removing the “SIM LOCK”, the mobile network provider of your phone could have added a “SIM LOCK”.
An easy way to check this is by inserting another network provider’s Sim into your phone, if your phone works please jump to the next step.
If not I was able to unlock my phone using the following link:
http://www.imei-check.co.uk/kaiser-unlock.php
Additionally I believe user tupisdin can also provide this service for a nominal fee.

Or you could use OliPro's SIM/CID Unlocker (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=375583) or Jockyw2001's SIM Unlocker (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=361039)

4.
Removing the “CID LOCK”, the mobile network provider of your phone would have added a “CID LOCK”.
POF has the answer for this, follow this link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334679

5.
New ROM, once the “CID LOCK” has been removed you will need a new ROM, follow this link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=331900
Locate and download RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_1.56.405.5_radio_sign_22.45.88. 07_1.27.12.11_Ship.exe.
Connect your TYTN II to your pc wait for the green ActievSync symbol and run the RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_1.56.405.5_radio_sign_22.45.88. 07_1.27.12.11_Ship.exe file.

6.
The only thing I do not like is you get a splash screen saying “smart Mobility” Splash ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Uploads/Kaiser/Splash/

Additional information and Rom’s can be found here

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser

I hope this helps, If anyone can locate new / updated roms please post the links.
PS. I'm a newbie at flashing but I hope I have made it as plain and simple as possible for my fellow newbies.

Many thanks for xda-developers as I now have an Orange TYTN II unlocked and rid of Orange software.

Enjoy UKBATMAN.

ROM version: 1.56.405.5
ROM date: 08/28/07
Radio versio: 1.27.12.11
Protocol version: 22.45.88.07H

[Sicilian]

Is it ok to flash the rom on Orange branded Tytn II then? I read somewhere that they were getting bricked.

Out of interest, what rom did you flash back?

[ukbatman]

SicIlian, I used the steps above to sucess, I'm now running the
WWE 1.56.405.5 version until I can find a newer version, Must admit I do have an Orange Rom incase of any issues.

[Sicilian]

Thanks for your guide, i'm assuming I should remove the sim lock before attempting this?

Are you able to post the orange rom?

[Ma.rkus.nl]

The SIM and CID locks are independant of eachother, so no :)

Also, you can dump your current ROM as a backup. See this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=337066) for details.

[tuntang]

:confused:

Can anyone ouut there with a bona fide Orange contract Kaiser tell me what ROM they are using that actually works all roms apart from those below make my phone completly silent.

before anyone jumps to tell me to read wiki, or hard spl my phone- i have. the only dutty one that works is Duttys Touch dated 28/8/07.

The only other ROM that works is Alex's latest MM ROM

Am i mad, is it my phone? , is it both, maybe i'll just have to stop flashing

cheers

[tsadek]

From my understanding any ROM that changes the radio locks the fone.

So any ROM that just flashes the OS and not the radio SHOULD work.

I am of course open to correction but that was my understanding of it all. Thats said I haven't flashed my Kaiser yet. :D

[_DrG_]

i have a uk orange tytnII and have flashed numerous roms, i generally stick to duttys as they suit me best, currently i am running 7b. non touch, which is superb and quick, previously i was running duttys no.3, no.4, final hybrid, touch flo final, no.6, no.7 and now 7b.
I have also used Helmi kaiser rom and qmobile 1.0 and 1.1.
All above roms have functioned as intended on my device.
I have never flashed the RADIO and my phone is sim locked still.

Hope this helps out.

Cheers

[ukbatman]

Please check out this link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=357592

[stoo1701]

Hi folks,
Dr G, are you saying you just flashed the roms without hard spl? Did they all change the radio firmware? My Uk TTyN II coming tomorrow. If not, is there anything specific to watch out for when flashing a Orange version?

Im sure these are obvious but your advice would be appreciated,
cheers

[tsadek]

Hi folks,
Dr G, are you saying you just flashed the roms without hard spl? Did they all change the radio firmware? My Uk TTyN II coming tomorrow. If not, is there anything specific to watch out for when flashing a Orange version?

Im sure these are obvious but your advice would be appreciated,
cheers


I think the point he is making is that a lot of the ROMs here only flash the OS and not the radio.

HardSpl, to keep it basic, stops you bricking your phone and allows ROMs to be flash.

With the Orange UK Kaisers/TyTN II the reports I saw back in october seem to indicate that the ROMS flashed BOTH the OS and changed the radio and resulted in a sim-locked fone.

I don't know if this has changed allowing radios to be flashed to these orange kaisers or if we still have to stick to OS only flashes? anyone care to shed some further light/correct me??

[hugorudd]

I was rather wondering whether this issue (Orange Kaisers locking with noew radio) mattered if one had an unlock code. Isn't it possible just to unlock it if it gets locked/ or does the Orange phone brick in some way?

[tsadek]

Again, this is only regurgitated from other sources but I think (emphasise think) that if you have unlocked your phone you should be ok.

Having not flashed my kaiser yet ( I'm going to cook my own ROM once some pesky exams are out of the way) I can't be sure.

[silent_killa]

I got the Orange UK Kaiser mate.
Do not flash the radio, flash OS only ROM's. Dutty's most recent is good, Touch Dual version 2 or 3. Hard SPL your phone before you start flashing (this doesn't touch the radio and you only need to do it once).
Flashing the radio on a sim locked Orange UK Kaiser will result in phone being sim locked to all networks (will have to pay to unlock then).
Only flashing a certain AT&T radio without the supported OS rom will result in a muted phone.

Need any more answers, PM me mate. Im on here every other day :)

[matteath]

I have an Orange branded TyTnII.

When I got it, first step was Hard-SPL the thing. From there I put many a ROM on the phone without a problem.

All was good until I put a ROM on there which also updated the radio. Next reboot, phone stated it was SIM locked. :( At the time you couldn't get the Orange Radio ROM on download anywhere so I had to fork out the £20 from imei-check or whatever the site is.:rolleyes:

Long and short is you can put whatever ROM you want on it, as long as it doesn't upgrade the radio.

Now mine's unlocked I can put whichever Kaiser ROM I feel the urge to use on it without worry.:D

[ukbatman]

I got the Orange UK Kaiser mate.
Do not flash the radio, flash OS only ROM's. Dutty's most recent is good, Touch Dual version 2 or 3. Hard SPL your phone before you start flashing (this doesn't touch the radio and you only need to do it once).
Flashing the radio on a sim locked Orange UK Kaiser will result in phone being sim locked to all networks (will have to pay to unlock then).
Only flashing a certain AT&T radio without the supported OS rom will result in a muted phone.

Need any more answers, PM me mate. Im on here every other day :)


Hi, Just to clear the confusion, if you follow the steps I show on this link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=357592
you will have a TYTN II No simlock, not bricked and fully working. thanks to the HARD SPL you are able to add any Rom or Radio you desire. the links I have added are using the ROMS i have on my TYTN II. There is also a follow up on my thread where in the event you need to return the phone original roms are available.

Regards
Jerry (UKBATMAN)

[tuntang]

I'm currently on dutty's touch 28/8/07 with radio 1.27.14.09 and i also hard spl'd before putting this on. What you're all saying is that if i flash without flashing the radio then i should be fine. how do i not flash the radio?

[tsadek]

Its not something you choose, you have to check each ROM. Usually it will say quite clearly whether its an OS ROM or an OS + Radio ROM.

With regards to following the steps in the other thread the key step is the SIM unlock which will allow radio updates to an Orange TyTN II.

So in summary:

If you have a sim-locked Orange TyTN 2 ONLY flash the OS (check each rom)
If you are unlocked do what you feel.

[Sicilian]

Thank you for the guide, followed it to the T, including the sim lock. At last got rid of the orange rubbish!

Thank you very much. :)

[stoo1701]

WOW, thanks for the tons of advice and info, you guys kick ass. Ok, gonna Hard SPL, then choose an os-only rom and i'm off. Will post with results soon.

Can't believe Borange crippled it in the first place, I was lookin' forward to touchflo.. BA&*$rds...

Thanks again :)

[tuntang]

My non scientific, non senior opinion is that you'll be fine as long as you stick to AT&T ROMs if you are orange uk. its something to do with the drivers clashing- as mentioned at other forums.

goodluck

[sambartle]

Am I understanding right that after you have SIM Unlocked the phone with IMEI-Check..

a) You CAN safely flash radio ROM's onto the Orange TyTN II?

b) You CAN flash an OS/Radio or any combination of the above without relocking the phone?

I've got a TyTN (M3100) and my Orange TyTN II should be arriving soon.. basically as far as I can see if I get it SIM unlocked and HardSPL it then it becomes as safe to flash things as with the Hermes/TyTN/M3100? (IE Impossible to break it)

Also can anyone confirm if the voicemail notifications fail once you flash a non orange ROM..(IE the symbol doesnt appear for a new voicemail and doesnt go when you have listened to them all - instead you get a text message with funny symbols in it) I'm guessing they will and so ill have to cook that solution into the ROMs too everytime..

[forza]

My non scientific, non senior opinion is that you'll be fine as long as you stick to AT&T ROMs if you are orange uk. its something to do with the drivers clashing- as mentioned at other forums.

goodluck

I'm not sure that's entirely correct. The Orange UK phones should only have ROMs flashed that work with the 1.27.12.x radios. The later AT&T ROMs use the 1.27.14.x Radio ROM - these won't work with the Radio ROM the Orange phone ships with (which is the one you should keep).

The only safe method is to only flash ROMs which do not include a Radio - if the ROM works for you, great, if not, try another one. If you do flash a different Radio ROM you'll be sim locked which you will have to sort (imeicheck etc.).

I'm currently using udk's (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=353910) and am very pleased with it.

[sambartle]

..The Orange UK phones should only have ROMs flashed that work with the 1.27.12.x radios. The later AT&T ROMs use the 1.27.14.x Radio ROM - these won't work with the Radio ROM the Orange phone ships with (which is the one you should keep).

The only safe method is to only flash ROMs which do not include a Radio - if the ROM works for you, great, if not, try another one. If you do flash a different Radio ROM you'll be sim locked which you will have to sort (imeicheck etc.).


Just to be 100% clear here since you seem to know what you are talking about.. You can flash any version OS as long as its OS only, or are you saying that some more recent OS builds (ones that ship with a later radio) actually NEED the later radio to work and therefore wont work on the orange TyTNII?

"The later AT&T ROMs use the 1.27.14.x Radio ROM - these won't work with the Radio ROM the Orange phone ships with"
Seesm to suggest that if i split the Os only from a later AT&T rom it wont work even if i flash it alone without touching the radio.. (I dont think this is what you meant but its how i read it.. just looking for clarification)

(i understand fully that the radio cant be upgraded as that sim locks it)

[tsadek]

Interesting question on the answerphone symbol. Worth asking one of the cooks because I experienced the same thing with my HERMES and it was a PITA.

[sambartle]

Im only asking as I dont have a kaiser yet.. should be arriving thursday! (If no one replys by then ill try it myself and see)

I had a hermes too so I guess it'll be the same fix and ill just cook it into my kaiser rom once i've built one..

[sambartle]

Ok,

Just to mix things up a bit my Orange TyTN II has just arrived.. and has radio: 1.27.14.32... now i'm officially confused. (I should probably mention its Orange branded on the back and HTC on the front.. are they all like that?)

[MickyMax]

Ok,

Just to mix things up a bit my Orange TyTN II has just arrived.. and has radio: 1.27.14.32... now i'm officially confused. (I should probably mention its Orange branded on the back and HTC on the front.. are they all like that?)

Are you sure ? 1.27.14.32

[tekerleki]

Ok,

Just to mix things up a bit my Orange TyTN II has just arrived.. and has radio: 1.27.14.32... now i'm officially confused. (I should probably mention its Orange branded on the back and HTC on the front.. are they all like that?)
Which Orange operator got that radio

[sambartle]

Are you sure ? 1.27.14.32

Yep.. Boot screen and the Device Manager both say: 1.27.14.32

[sambartle]

Which Orange operator got that radio

Orange UK.. Delivered this morning.

[tekerleki]

Orange UK.. Delivered this morning.
Thank for prompt reply...(I'm also in orange uk but strangely my radio is 1.27.12.29 and it's 4 days old!!!)

As far as what rom to use, I've used Dutty's V3 it's safe no Radio-included. Works like charm, much better than Orange rom.

Make sure you hard-spl or soft-spl...

Good luck

[tsadek]

Very interesting. I wonder if we could flash this new radio without sim-locking the device?? Is it any better??? I too have 12.29

[sambartle]

Certainly seems to be working fine for me, I haven't had it long enough to say if it drops out anywhere but as its stock on my phone I guess Orange are happy with it.

By the way just to make it clear I didn't flash to this radio.. It came as standard on my phone as delivered brand new from Orange UK. I have no idea what will happen if anyone flashes to it.. It may lock your phone up again as they are reported to do.

The phone came direct from Orange but I did notice it wasnt sealed as they usually are.. I assumed it was so orange could stick the sim card in the box as it was just sitting on the top loose (in its plastic surround as they come) with the paperwork for the upgrade.

Maybe they are also re-flashing phone stocks (as opposed to just getting newer radios in new batches) before sending them out with later radios for some reason.

Can you confirm your phones are HTC branded on the front fascia and orange only on the back cover? (im thinking maybe they ran out of orange spv branded ones.. though none of them ive seen seem to have the orange branding like the hermes did)

[tekerleki]

Certainly seems to be working fine for me, I haven't had it long enough to say if it drops out anywhere but as its stock on my phone I guess Orange are happy with it.

By the way just to make it clear I didn't flash to this radio.. It came as standard on my phone as delivered brand new from Orange UK. I have no idea what will happen if anyone flashes to it.. It may lock your phone up again as they are reported to do.

The phone came direct from Orange but I did notice it wasnt sealed as they usually are.. I assumed it was so orange could stick the sim card in the box as it was just sitting on the top loose (in its plastic surround as they come) with the paperwork for the upgrade.

Maybe they are also re-flashing phone stocks (as opposed to just getting newer radios in new batches) before sending them out with later radios for some reason.

Can you confirm your phones are HTC branded on the front fascia and orange only on the back cover? (im thinking maybe they ran out of orange spv branded ones.. though none of them ive seen seem to have the orange branding like the hermes did)
Yes my phone is just as yours (it's cost saving exercise, instead making new housing for branded Orange they just made battery cap-back cover with Orange insignia). By the way the only difference between HTC and Orange is the insignia at the back and of course OS and Radio, hardware is absolutely the same. ...

...and the way you explained it's sure that phone had a OS/radio upgrade just before it was shipped to you, surely they must have found a glitch with the previous one...

What is OS-version you got in phone

[sambartle]

1.81.61.2
CE Version: 5.2.1620 Build 18125.0.4.2

Same as the others I've seen on here.

[tekerleki]

1.81.61.2
CE Version: 5.2.1620 Build 18125.0.4.2

Same as the others I've seen on here.
Same here, therefore you should not have any problems with flashing your device..

If you can dump your radio rom that would be great, I would like to see if there is any difference in quality reception with older version

Good luck

ps you can always go back to your older OS see link...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=337066

[Jamesb4uk]

Ive just got my Orange Tytn 2 - flashed it with Dutty's V3 ROM & everythings great

OS 5.2.1933 (build 18533.Dutty's) V3

ROM date 01/01/08

Radio Version 1.27.12.29

looks like i got an older radio version

J

[forza]

Just to be 100% clear here since you seem to know what you are talking about.. You can flash any version OS as long as its OS only, or are you saying that some more recent OS builds (ones that ship with a later radio) actually NEED the later radio to work and therefore wont work on the orange TyTNII?

"The later AT&T ROMs use the 1.27.14.x Radio ROM - these won't work with the Radio ROM the Orange phone ships with"
Seesm to suggest that if i split the Os only from a later AT&T rom it wont work even if i flash it alone without touching the radio.. (I dont think this is what you meant but its how i read it.. just looking for clarification)

(i understand fully that the radio cant be upgraded as that sim locks it)

That is correct, *if* your Orange phone came with the 1.27.12.x Radio ROM - which I see yours didn't!

In theory the 1.27.12.x based ROMs will not work with your Radio, but the later AT&T ROMs possibly will (as they are based on the 1.27.14.x Radio). None of us Orange UK TyTnII owners have a device with the new radio you have so I'm afraid you're all on your own at the moment - I can't tell you what will happen if you flash *any* of the available ROMs.

To be honest, the worst known outcome is that you have to pay to get your phone sim unlocked - but that is based upon what we know on the phones we have experimented with. If you're feeling brave give it a go (putting Hard SPL on first of course) - otherwise leave it for others to experiment first :)

Either way, get a dump of your ROM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334680) before you do anything - even though your ROM version doesn't seem any different to the Orange ROM shipped on our devices it is at least compatible with the 1.27.14.x Radios, it would be nice to be able to try and find out how and why.

[sambartle]

I should have replied to this last night.. I actually was in the process of building my custom ROM (using my TyTN v8 modifications) for the TyTN II while posting those answers..

I flashed it late last night and it works fine.. using the plain HTC base ROM as my starting point.. so it would appear at least that the TyTN II I have works with the 'old' ROM's just fine. (I flashed only the OS of course so I still have the newer Radio)

I will flash the OS of a recent AT&T one as a test if anyone is interested?

(I did a dump as soon as i got it so I have that all safely stored)

[sambartle]

Please ignore this post - it turns out I was talking rubbish here through lack of proper testing by myself.

Since this is turning into the catch all Orange UK TyTN II thread.. It seems the problem with VoiceMail notifications is actually worse in the TyTN II than in the TyTN..

They simply dont work at all if you flash to a different ROM.. you dont even get the weird charactors SMS messages anymore..

I'll try the fix from the hermes but im not too sure its going to work.. in which case.. does anyone have working notifications on a newer ROM?

[tekerleki]

Opsi, on mine notifications are fine
:confused:

[sambartle]

You are absolutely right they do work.

What happened is that I already had messages (that I wasnt aware of because of the bug on my tytn that I hadnt fixed in the test rom I had on there) so when i left a message it didnt send the text to set the icon.. (i assumed wrongly that it always sends the text.. it must remember its been sent and not bother)

When i went to voicemail and deleted it it sent the text telling the phone to remove the icon.. which it obviously recieved.. discarded because the icon wasnt there on the new phone and didnt show the sms because it knew its not meant too..

Ive gone back and tried again knowing I had no messages and its working fine!

Thanks,
sam

[tekerleki]

Sam almost forgot just to remind you, if you could dump your radio rom that would be much appriciated.

Thanks

PS how to dump radio see link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=359015

[sambartle]

I'll give it a go.. bit more complex than the OS dump by all accounts.. and i'm not sure QPST is legal for download.

I'd like to look into what the commands you have to run too before I go running them. It's expensive after all!

[Fogster]

Hi guys,

Can anybody help me with getting the 1.27.14.32 radio stack from the Orange TyTn II.
I have, like a complete r-tard after reading all these threads, just managed to flash my device with the wrong ROM, i.e. one with a radio stack included.
Good news is that I didn't have my SIM in at the time so I am hoping that it won't be locked.
More good news is that I have a second TyTn II with the above radio version on so I can get it from there. I have followed the instructions in
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=359015
but after Step 5 MTTY just sits there consuming 99% of the CPU and nothing happens.
QPST is installed and all devices are recognised.

The thread does say that it isn't for n00bs and to be honest whilst I have flashed plenty of devices this is something new so I thought I would come the the for community for assistance, after all I guess I can provide the updated radio at that point.

Cheers

[Mark Crouch]

As an alternative, on the device you flashed with a new radio, you might want to try running @jockyw2001's Kaiser SIM unlocker (see here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=361039)) - the by product of this is that you can then flash any radio, even if you are a UK Orange user (as reported by several people in that thread). So, the theory is that you run the unlocker, re-flash your current radio version (the one from the ROM flash) and it should all be fine....

Dumping the 1.27.14.32 radio will be great, and once again, @jockyw2001 is your man; he's actually working on a "radio dump" tool, but there's no news on when it will be released. You could try sending him a PM about your current MTTY predicament, or maybe he'll see your post anyway?

Hope this helps,

Mark.

[c.b]

Another UK orange TYTN II owner here. Am currently using Duttys V3 Final. I have found it to be a very good ROM and does all that I need to. I found V4 RTM and the latest 6.1 BETA ROM to be slightly problematic so for now have reverted to V3 final.

I have done plently of testing various bits of software on it and this is what I am currently running if anyone is interested.

Rom = Duttys V3 final rom.

Cube = HTCCube_FTouchFlo_TFloCubeCtrlv110_Config-xplode.cab

HTC Task manager

HTC GPS TOOL

Touch Settings Fix

Schaps_CyberonVoiceSpeedDial_1_2_b070917_0_WWE

Duttys adobe reader

Unofficial HTC Wait animation cursor

[pheckles]

I have an Orange TYTN II, and have not unlocked SIM but have succesfully maaged to flash to Radio 1.27.14.09.

Downloaded from here (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_Radio)

[jt3009]

all you need is the correct radio......i had same problem
if you search through the posts youll find what your after
i used one of alex's roms and got new radio then everything hunky

[WilkesMcD]

Many thanks for xda-developers as I now have an Orange TYTN II unlocked and rid of Orange software.

Enjoy UKBATMAN.Hi UKBATMAN,

I see that you flashed your Orange 'crippled' phone a little while ago now. Have you found any issues with your phone now?

I'm just about to take the plunge but everyone seems to send me links to sites where people have bricked their phone in doing so (something to do with the 'radio ROM' (?)

Wilkes

[cgjones]

Hi UKBATMAN,

I see that you flashed your Orange 'crippled' phone a little while ago now. Have you found any issues with your phone now?

I'm just about to take the plunge but everyone seems to send me links to sites where people have bricked their phone in doing so (something to do with the 'radio ROM' (?)

Wilkes

Take the plunge. I have had no issues whatsoever with Dutty or Schaps ROMS

[Prufrock]

One thing I disagree with, ukbatman, is step 5 where you say you have to change the rom on your phone. You don't have to change rom to unlock the phone. I've got a Vario III, which I have unlocked, but I haven't changed the rom.

[angel-78]

I disagree with having to pay someone when there are free ways to unlock your phone. There is a sticky that talks about a great free program and if you have a tilt you can call ATT and have them unlock it for you.
A lot of people are having success with this:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=361039

[ahmadashar]

Well, i have tried Dutty's v4 RTM, Dutty's wm6.1 and Alex WM6.1 Home. They all worked perfectly fine for me.

[Loserboy0711]

I have an Orange branded TyTnII.

When I got it, first step was Hard-SPL the thing. From there I put many a ROM on the phone without a problem.

All was good until I put a ROM on there which also updated the radio. Next reboot, phone stated it was SIM locked. :( At the time you couldn't get the Orange Radio ROM on download anywhere so I had to fork out the £20 from imei-check or whatever the site is.:rolleyes:

Long and short is you can put whatever ROM you want on it, as long as it doesn't upgrade the radio.

Now mine's unlocked I can put whichever Kaiser ROM I feel the urge to use on it without worry.:D

Ditto, i have done the same

[baconsarni]

Hi

I have a HTC TYTN II locked to the orange network in the UK. I would like to unlock it. My Radio rom version is 1.27.14.32 . I have been told by an friend that I can use 1.27.12.32 instead when flashing the phone as I cannot find the original version. Will this enable me to unlock my phone without bricking it?


Many Thanks

[foobar1977]

Ok, I'll save you from the flames for not searching ;-)

I think the answer to this question depends on what you want to achieve...

If you want to SIM unlock so that you can stuff another providers SIM card in then I very much doubt you'll achieve that by flashing the 1.27.14.32 radio (and i don't know if that would avoid SIM locking the device), even if you can find a copy of 14.32, and believe me I have tried. I think it's unavailable because it has to be dumped from an Original Orange Rom which are not released... could be wrong on that though.

If you simply want to run a cooked or some other OS ROM then you'll need to hardSPL and CID unlock first:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334679

Then get an OS only rom, MAKE SURE its OS only!

Of course, if you are not concerned with being able to return it for warranty repair then just once you've hardSPL'd and CID unlocked, use this...

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=361039

Then you can flash whatever you like :)

I take no responsibility for you doing any of this, I'm pretty new to it myself. You MUST read, read and read some more. When you fully understand what it is you are doing and the associated risks then go for it.

I accidentally flashed the wrong ROM to my Orange Tytn II the other night which unfortunately included a radio rom. This resulted in a SIM Locked phone. I got around that easily enough but I'm now in a position where I can't get hold of the original radio rom and will be unable to return my device for repair should it develop a fault.... having said that, there are other ways and means to get a faulty phone repaired/replaced ;)

[ukbatman]

All,

My phone has now been running for sometime with no problems.
The first time I installed the Orange Sim all the networks configuration was dowloaded.

A colleague at work has recently purchased a HTC TYTN II unbranded, on a quick check I found all of his configuration Roms and Radios to be the same as mine.

ROM version:1.56.405.5
ROM date:08/28/07
Radio version:1.27.12.11
Protocol version:22.45.88.07H

:):):):)

[ukbatman]

I disagree with having to pay someone when there are free ways to unlock your phone. There is a sticky that talks about a great free program and if you have a tilt you can call ATT and have them unlock it for you.
A lot of people are having success with this:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=361039

Hi

The steps i have added are for owners of Orange TYTN II phones, If you read the steps you have to follow unlock both CID and SIM unlocks.

Unlike ATT and some other companies Orange generally will not remove the locks on your phone.

[ukbatman]

One thing I disagree with, ukbatman, is step 5 where you say you have to change the rom on your phone. You don't have to change rom to unlock the phone. I've got a Vario III, which I have unlocked, but I haven't changed the rom.

Prufrock
The poor Orange owners are not so lucky as you T-Mobile customers, If you don't re-flash the software on your phone it remains slow and has some god awful graphics that do not do this phone any justice.

Please note step 5 can be replaced by any Rom designed for the TYTN II / KAISER

[NFRCER]

Dear ukbatman the splash screen link you provided doesnt work...i would like to have this splash screen, can you point me to the right link?

6.
The only thing I do not like is you get a splash screen saying “smart Mobility” Splash ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Uploads/Kaiser/Splash/

[mazta]

my rom is the same,

need an unlocking tool man, i have 20 of these sitting here, all locked up, would rather send donations than 20 quid a pop to imei

someone must crack it soon

[Mark Crouch]

my rom is the same,

need an unlocking tool man, i have 20 of these sitting here, all locked up, would rather send donations than 20 quid a pop to imei

someone must crack it soon

Someone did crack it.....on Jan 20th :D

See this post (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=361039) for all the details on how to SIM unlock for free....donations gratefully accepted ;)

Cheers,

Mark.

[lodger]

Just to add ...

I had to sent my orange branded phone back to htc at xmas (broken usb port)

when i got my phone back it has radio 1.27.14.32 on it to

[UKTamo]

To be fair....I have mine done up. i'm on DCS WM6.1 v1.4. Radio flashed to some 6.1 radio (can't mind version) and I've had no issues....
Hard SPL > Flash OS > Flash Radio

[Happy_Shrimper]

Was about to attempt the SIM unlock on my Orange Kaiser, but went off to seek the 1.27.14.32 radio rom and can't find one!
Does this mean I should not unlock until one is available?
Help ... !

[c.b]

Was about to attempt the SIM unlock on my Orange Kaiser, but went off to seek the 1.27.14.32 radio rom and can't find one!
Does this mean I should not unlock until one is available?
Help ... !

Here's a free search result on me then....http://www.4shared.com/dir/5551593/20b4549a/sharing.html

[tof270284]

Hi

I need a rom orange fr. R 1 27 12 29
G 22 45 88 07H
D 1 81 00 00
Because, I've change my rom and I don't save my original rom.


Thank you

[Happy_Shrimper]

Here's a free search result on me then....http://www.4shared.com/dir/5551593/20b4549a/sharing.html

You're a gentleman! Thanks. My searching abilities seem weak!
My searches on these forums only seem to work for full words, not part???
i.e. Kais wouldn't find kaiser for example. Maybe I need some sleep :o

[Happy_Shrimper]

Blast! 1.27.14.32 wasn't there so opted for 1.27.14.09 instead. Now I don't get sound on the earpiece when making a call. Any suggestions for a radio rom for Orange in the absence of 1.27.14.32?
Is this lack of sound a common/known problem?
Thanks

[Teppic24]

I've had no problems with 1.27.12.17, and I believe that 1.27.12.32 also works on Orange UK, although I haven't tried that one myself.

Edited to add: Since posting this I've flashed 1.27.12.32 to my phone and everything seems to be working fine.

[Happy_Shrimper]

Thanks Teppic24, I'll try 1.27.12.17 tonight and see if the sounds comes back.
Did get an incoming call today and earpiece sound was fine. Maybe its just outgoing?
Any advances on 1.27.12.17? 1.27.12.29 anyone?

[mjed2006]

...bona fide Orange contract Kaiser ...

I'm using Schap's v4.40 as a 6.1 ROM.

Everything works ok - I have no issues with this ROM to date.

[dave_a]

I've had no problems with 1.27.12.17, and I believe that 1.27.12.32 also works on Orange UK, although I haven't tried that one myself.

I used 1.27.12.32 after unlocking my Orange UK Kaiser and have not noticed any problems during calls and HSPDPA works fine

[Pummy]

1.27.12.32 runs fine on the Orange ROM.

[Happy_Shrimper]

Thanks All, problem resolved by installing 1.27.12.32. Found a thread that confirmed that radio roms can cause the loss of sound. Its detailed in the Radio Roms thread linked from the Unlock sticky.

[rochi]

Just followed the istructions but it wouldn t unlock...
Help me please
May i put the earlier radio??

[bigdyl69]

I managed to do it first time after I upgraded to the HTC standard ROM and got the sim lock message, thought I'd bricked my phone. I just followed the instructions to the letter and it worked first time so I'm not sure where u might be going wrong

[airacutie]

Hi,

I've tried yesterday new Duttys 6.1 ROM with radio 1.64.06.04 on my Orange branded Kaiser, no problem yet. Everything is working fine. My Kaiser wasnt SIM locked, only HardSPL was required.

[kubia]

are you telling me i should not worry about this:
http://www.modaco.com/content/Pocket-PC-Professional-News/260831/WARNING-Do-NOT-flash-your-Orange-TyTN-II-to-the-HTC-ROM/

[kubia]

well? what do you think?

i'm still considering sticking with the original orange rom, not sure yet...

[Teppic24]

are you telling me i should not worry about this:
http://www.modaco.com/content/Pocket-PC-Professional-News/260831/WARNING-Do-NOT-flash-your-Orange-TyTN-II-to-the-HTC-ROM/

You don't have to worry. Just make sure that you install HardSPL first (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334679) before running the unlock procedure (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=361039) and you should be fine. Plenty of people here (myself included) have unlocked Orange UK phones using the unlocker and after that you should be able to flash any ROM you like.

I have the HTC standard ROM on my phone and it works fine.

If you don't get your phone unlocked then flashing a different ROM will sim-lock it, unless you flash an OS only ROM.

[kubia]

thanks for the tip.
anyone from poland made it work on an polish orange kaiser?

[airacutie]

Hi,
Teppic24 is right, you dont need to be scared. I was ;-) But everything worked like charm. HardSPL, new ROM, new radio and ... thats it :-) I also checked if my phone is SIM locked (it wasnt), just for sure.

[buntyfrobisher]

Other than inserting a different operator's SIM, is there a way to check if my Orange UK Kaiser is SIM Locked?

[music]

You don't have to worry. Just make sure that you install HardSPL first (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334679) before running the unlock procedure (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=361039) and you should be fine. Plenty of people here (myself included) have unlocked Orange UK phones using the unlocker and after that you should be able to flash any ROM you like.

I have the HTC standard ROM on my phone and it works fine.

If you don't get your phone unlocked then flashing a different ROM will sim-lock it, unless you flash an OS only ROM.

Just to confirm unless it's a mistake; Hard SPL FIRST THEN unlock? Just wanted to do this in the right order :)

[qaiserjaved]

Hey Guys,

I have solved the problem of HardSpL. Thts done but now when i run KaiserCustomRUU from step 1 folder, for unlocking, it pops a message "Desktop\kaiser-unlocker\step1\kaiser-radio-patched.nbh" and after when i press ok, it gives an "ERROR 238: FILE READ. The update Utility can not open the requested file. Please check your update utility".

Please some body help me. I really dont understand why i am getting this error as i have successfully done the HardSPL.

Thanks

[tleaf100]

managed to save my bricked kaiser,not quite sure how exactly,but phew..big relief,cant afford big bill from orange for returned brick.
still cant get it to unlock and not realy in mood to try for a 31st time,it just wont take on mine,suspect i have problem with pc as every single dosbox,no matter how started just black flashes across screen.
a question to anyone who has managed to unlock a late series orange uk,when using jockyw2001 simunlocker when you get to step two and 8 digit box comes up on phone are we meant to enter anything in box or leave blank before reset,readme walk through not realy clear at that point..
now running dutty 6.1( official) rom with polaris 1.58.25.14 radio,only combination that A) doesnt bring up simlock box on home screen, and B) gives me any sound at all. have worked my way through most of available radios in last three days but this only one that works properly,not noticed any probs with this combination yet,apart from finding way around dutty,having just got used to orange rom layout. am tempted in next few weeks to do a REALY comprehensive walk through on what and what not to do to beat unlock on orange uk kaisers ,just to save other peoples nerves and finger nails !!! i know much better coders than me out there are are working on prob so should be much easier soon,i should think more than possible to write single tool that is much safer,kinder on nerves and does more ,ie,seen mention of radio dumper coming soon and would have hoped someone can back engineer orange uk rom and make available as single package so "ordinary" folk can reconfigure back without having to crash learn about dodgy coding tools.
not having a go at anyone,but chasing round forums from thread to thread trying to find how other people have got round various probs,such as white screen issue and others is time consuming and too easy to miss what we need.one big walkthrough would do it..it could all be so much easier.. am sure lots of folk just want a phone unlocked for any network and not realy interested in running homebrew roms etc..and cant afford to pay for commercial unlockers,if i could i would rather than nearly brick phone..
not realy a rant,more frustration at orange etc..
back later if phone still up and working.......

[andaroo]

if you cant be bothered to look, i doubt anyone can be bothered to help you out!

[geoff.sim]

I have just successfully updated my Orange Locked Kaiser using the following:

ROM: DCS1.7 WM6.1
Radio: 1.64.08.21

See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=365066

My original setup was:
ROM: 1.81.61.2 WWE
Radio: 1.27.12.29

So far (after a hard reset and a couple of hours), I have had no problems apart from not being able to play my avi's - but I couldn't with the previous rom either...

After about 3 hours reading threads, it took about 20 mins to do the actual update - and that included having a shower while flashing the ROM ;-)

[edwardscdr]

I have the orange uk kaiser which i bought already sim unlocked therefore i am able to use all roms and radios without it bricking :D

[tleaf100]

if you cant be bothered to look, i doubt anyone can be bothered to help you out!
shouldnt need to spend 3 days hunting,also if you read properly,i said i was having prob with pc.

[unwired4]

So I didnt use my vista laptop - I used an xp desktop instead but sim-unlocked using Jabbr's unlock, then flashed Dutty's 6.1 rom, then flashed 1.64.08.21 radio and all fine.

[bandit2xx]

Hello! I was wondering if anyone can give me any help in how to sim unlock a Orange kaiser. I follow the steps but the device cant even get flashed, the bar shows 0% and then tells error. When i try to do hard spl i get something different (SPL-1.81.0000 instead of SPL-1.0 OliPo), and on the white bar of the 4 colored screen it#s written serial.... Any help any guess? has anyone flashed this deviced sucessfully?

[rjefferis]

have you actually flashed hard spl ?

[unwired4]

I have flashed mine fine.

A month ago I flashed hard-spl. Then I flashed Dutty's V3 WM6 rom.

Then Sunday I ran Jabbr's simunlocker fine, then flashed Dutty's 6.1 rom and a 6.1 radio.

[patthehostman]

Hello! I was wondering if anyone can give me any help in how to sim unlock a Orange kaiser. I follow the steps but the device cant even get flashed, the bar shows 0% and then tells error. When i try to do hard spl i get something different (SPL-1.81.0000 instead of SPL-1.0 OliPo), and on the white bar of the 4 colored screen it#s written serial.... Any help any guess? has anyone flashed this deviced sucessfully?

I can only recommend http://www.imei-check.co.uk/kaiser-unlock.php
It's worth it...

[angel-78]

Don't waste any money try this link there is actually some Orange specific info. A lot of people have had success with this

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=361039

Good luck

[Teppic24]

Hello! I was wondering if anyone can give me any help in how to sim unlock a Orange kaiser. I follow the steps but the device cant even get flashed, the bar shows 0% and then tells error. When i try to do hard spl i get something different (SPL-1.81.0000 instead of SPL-1.0 OliPo), and on the white bar of the 4 colored screen it#s written serial.... Any help any guess? has anyone flashed this deviced sucessfully?

You need to FLASH HardSPL to your phone first (read this thread to learn how to do it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334679)

The way the instructions in the unlock thread are written makes it look like you install HardSPL by powering on your phone and holding down the camera button. This DOES NOT install HardSPL - it is merely a way of checking that you have it installed.

If you see anything other than SPL-1.0 OliPof then you DO NOT have HardSPL installed, and need to follow the instructions in the above thread before running the unlock procedure.

[bandit2xx]

O.k Thanks i managed to unlock it finally. The way it's was explained looked it was something else... Hey. Does anyone know if it`s possivle to flash HTC unbraded ROM to this mobile? I heard there are some radios issues with Orange...

[tleaf100]

So I didnt use my vista laptop - I used an xp desktop instead but sim-unlocked using Jabbr's unlock, then flashed Dutty's 6.1 rom, then flashed 1.64.08.21 radio and all fine.

have you found a different sim unlocker?

[andrew-in-woking]

Hi,
Unwired4, can you please explain what you mean by Jabbr's unlock? I've done a search but it doesn't seem to come up with anything.
Thanks,
andrew-in-woking

[tleaf100]

Hi,
Unwired4, can you please explain what you mean by Jabbr's unlock? I've done a search but it doesn't seem to come up with anything.
Thanks,
andrew-in-woking

did a google last night, (jabbers unlock ) can only find on iphone sites iii
so far

[ggjohn]

Hello guys

Can somebody pls. help me

Have an orange Kaiser
ROM 1.81.61.2 WWE
Radio 1.27.12.32

I want to flash a new ROM can anybody suggest a stable ROM
( Shipped preferable ) and should it be done along with radio flash?
I also read on the forum that i cannot flash the radio or the phone will be locked ( as it is Orange )

would like to play divx on the phone , so which player do you all recommend DIVX player or any other OR can i upgrade the codecs and play in windows media player only.

AND HOW TO HAVE TOCHFLO

Pls. Help

[the_passenger]

help, some one please help this poor soul. I'm too lazy to search for him. LOLz

[nicholasendean]

help, some one please help this poor soul. I'm too lazy to search for him. LOLz


SAME HERE!

[ggjohn]

guys

c'mon do noy bully a noob

WMV 6 5.2.1620

[airacutie]

Hi,
I have an orange kaiser too. I've flashed Dutty's Official WM6.1 Releases with Radio 1.64.06.04. Works like charm. No problem found yet, i have it over week. You can find it here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=369505
Just don't forget to use HardSPL first. And also my kaiser wasn't SIM locked, i read a lot this can cause a problem.

[rslgtown]

Hello guys

Can somebody pls. help me

Have an orange Kaiser
ROM 1.81.61.2 WWE
Radio 1.27.12.32

I want to flash a new ROM can anybody suggest a stable ROM
( Shipped preferable ) and should it be done along with radio flash?
I also read on the forum that i cannot flash the radio or the phone will be locked ( as it is Orange )

would like to play divx on the phone , so which player do you all recommend DIVX player or any other OR can i upgrade the codecs and play in windows media player only.

AND HOW TO HAVE TOCHFLO

Pls. Help


Dutty's ROM is very stable, and already has touchflo. As for the rest of your questions, the best answer I can give is read the wiki, read dutty's flash instruction, and read read read! I spent three weeks or so reading posts and wiki topics before I flashed for the first time. It is better to spend a few days learning how to do these things properly than to rush it and brick a new phone.

[tleaf100]

Hi

The steps i have added are for owners of Orange TYTN II phones, If you read the steps you have to follow unlock both CID and SIM unlocks.

Unlike ATT and some other companies Orange generally will not remove the locks on your phone.
hi ukbatman,sorry to appear dense but is this link for orange rom,did,nt know you could dump original rom,now have semi crippled tytn{orange uk}want to reflash back to original setup and start again on a different pc,realy only want tytn sim unlocked .
finaly got through to rapidshare,no not orange orig.
my orange was : rom=1.81.61.2
op version = 28.181.1.162
protocol 22.45.88.07 H
radio 1.27.14.32
this is what I want to return to and staft again,so need proper orange rom. cheers to anyone who can help.

[Teppic24]

Just to confirm unless it's a mistake; Hard SPL FIRST THEN unlock? Just wanted to do this in the right order :)

Correct. Without HardSPL you won't be able to flash another Radio or ROM, and the unlock procedure needs to flash another Radio in order to work.

[rlatarche]

run a simple search for sim unlocker on this forum you'll get your hands on a bit of software (that works) and instructions on how to unlock your phone so that you can flash any radio and rom without locking your phone up. One hint though . . . when you follow the instructions and it asks you to insert a foreign sim card dont worry because the ornage simlock kicks in so just keep the same sim card in. also its advisable to take off any sim lock codes (if you have any) before you do this as it only complicates matters.. . . good luck it works - - - i know i've done it and can now use any sim card, radio or rom with no problems. PM me if you hit any probs

[ggjohn]

my phone is already unlocked


Am using a non orange connection

Thank You guys

I am reading the forum

' airacutie ' -

i am using WM 6.0 so can i use 6.1ROMS ?

Which latest shipped ROM can b used

[music]

Thanks Teppic24!

[ggjohn]

my kaiser does not have GPS either

[geoff.sim]

my kaiser does not have GPS either

???? My Orange Kaiser (aka TYTN2) has GPS.

[shadowlabs9]

Hi,
I guess you guys should read this:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=369282

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Flashing%20Guide


cheers

[tilla]

All of the Radio issues go away once the phone is Sim Unlocked :)

I was able to upgrade to the HTC WM 6.1 WWE which incorporates a new Radio version and all is working fine.

[davidcollins01]

Hi All,
I've done a fair bit of searching on here but cant find 100% definitive answers to my questions, so i thought I'd ask them outright :)

1) Can i install a WM6.1 ROM (excluding radio ROM) on an Orange TytnII without changing my Radio ROM from 1.27.12.29
2) I see the above mentioned ROM has not been extracted yet, and i was looking to possibly SIM unlock the device but the last step is to replace with the Unlocking Radio ROM with the version of the ROM you originally had. Is there a way around this final step if i have 1.27.12.29, or do i have to wait for this to be released?
3) Is there anywhere an Orange UK original ROM is stored on this site in the event of needing to have a warranty repair and flash back to normal?

Apologies if these have been covered elsewhere before, its just i'm having trouble finding full reasoned answers.

Many thanks in advance and keep up the excellent work! It is much appreciated!

DC

[_Alex_]

Perhaps you and the other Orange members should create a wiki page instead asking slightly different questions?

I'm sorry I can't be of any help, as I'm not an Orange user and I don't keep Orange related info in my head.

Just giving helpful suggestions that would benefit others....

[Teppic24]

Hi All,
I've done a fair bit of searching on here but cant find 100% definitive answers to my questions, so i thought I'd ask them outright :)

1) Can i install a WM6.1 ROM (excluding radio ROM) on an Orange TytnII without changing my Radio ROM from 1.27.12.29
2) I see the above mentioned ROM has not been extracted yet, and i was looking to possibly SIM unlock the device but the last step is to replace with the Unlocking Radio ROM with the version of the ROM you originally had. Is there a way around this final step if i have 1.27.12.29, or do i have to wait for this to be released?
3) Is there anywhere an Orange UK original ROM is stored on this site in the event of needing to have a warranty repair and flash back to normal?

Apologies if these have been covered elsewhere before, its just i'm having trouble finding full reasoned answers.

Many thanks in advance and keep up the excellent work! It is much appreciated!

DC

To answer your questions in turn:

1. According to the post below from mjed2006, yes you can.

2. There isn't any way around this step, but you don't need to flash 1.27.12.29 back to your phone. Once SIM unlocked it will happily accept 1.27.12.11, 1.27.12.17 or 1.27.12.32 Radios. However, if you want to flash 1.27.12.29 back for a warranty return you are screwed as it is not (currently) available for download. My phone was an eBay purchase (and therefore had no warranty with Orange) so personally I didn't have any problem with doing this.

The only other option for unlocking if you don't want to go down the D.I.Y. route or if you really want to keep the 1.27.12.29 Radio is to throw £20 in the direction of there guys: http://www.imei-check.co.uk

3. The original Orange UK ROM is NOT available. However, there is a reconstructed Orange UK ROM (available in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1586817&postcount=2) which should do the job in the event of a warranty return. This ROM does not feature the Radio, so if you change the Radio you'd still need to find the 1.27.12.29 Radio to flash back.

Hope this helps.

[mjed2006]

The answer is actually YES!

I am currently running Schaps 4.40beta (why its a beta I don't know) it runs absolutely perfect on my Orange TyTN II using the original radio.

See my signature for my current setup - 6.1 can, will and does run on the Orange original radio - I have living proof.