ATT tilt streaming

[Chem E Sam]

I need help tryign to figure out how to get streaming to work on my tilt. i have done a search and have found no solutions to this problem. people have talked about it but no one has posted a way to get streaming to work. any ideas?
Thanks

[marm0lade]

What kind of data do you want to stream and from where to where do you want to stream it? Also, you should be aware that it is against AT&T's TOS to stream video over their network and will get you terminated.

[Chem E Sam]

i woudl liek to stream XM from this site http://mobile.musicdock.com

[argoldst]

bad post.. sorry

[mzahiri]

there is already an XM app for WM6. from what I have read it is not possible to stream XM via PIE.

Someone correct me if i am worng.

[drellmsu]

When they give you cellular video for free?

Thats video streaming.

[grizzley]

The best I know of is a website that will stream XM for you. From what I recall, it is pretty limited but it will do some channels.

[Tech55]

This one works best for me

http://www.xstreamxm.com/mobile/

[Flapjack]

When they give you cellular video for free?

Thats video streaming.
+1 on that. How the heck is it not allowed??

[Chem E Sam]

i cant stream anything, every time i try to stream for some reason it tries to reconnect then done not buffer over 0%. very frustrating. :mad: i have done a lot of reserch on this and have found this:

http://forums.cingular.com/cng/board/message?board.id=cingular&message.id=23969&view=by_date_ascending&page=1

but it does not work i still cant stream. there has to be a fix for this. anyone?

[Doug2873]

most problems I see with streaming not working on the Tilt is that if you have a medianet plan (not a PDA connect plan) streaming media will not work UNLESS you go into your connection settings and uncheck the box that says "my connection uses a proxy to connect" or something like that. Hope this helps. It will be in Settings --> connections --> connections ---> My ISP: Manage existing connections

[Chem E Sam]

got it to work, i changed the Mideanet settings. to:

use the access point name isp.cingular

On the next page, enter either ISP.CINGULARGPRS.COM or ISP@CINGULARGPRS.COM (either will work) for username and CINGULAR1 for password (make sure they are all in caps)
Leave Domain name blank
Under advanced, make sure the only things selected are "Use server assigned IP address" and "Use IP header compression" - leave everything else unselected.
Click ok and then finish

[Flapjack]

I cannot connect at all using these setttings. I have the unlimited PDA plan.

The only thing that works is the default MEdiaNet connection with proxy unchecked.

Why is this?

[roverman]

With medianet
I use access point WAP.CINGULAR and username WAP@CINGULARGPRS.COM. Don't know why, or what it means vs. isp.cingular...but it works.
What's the difference? (yes...I don't know jack about phones)

[Chem E Sam]

some one smarter then me needs to figure this out. :)

[marm0lade]

There are two unlimited data plans available thru AT&T. They are:

PDA Personal MAX Unlimited and PDA Connect Unlimited.

PDA Connect Unlimited is not advertised on the website. You need to call and ask for it. Why you ask? The PDA Personal MAX plan only gives you access to the wap.cingular APN (MediaNet settings). The PDA Connect plan gives you access to the isp.cingular APN (My ISP settings).

What is the difference between the two APNs? The wap.cingular APN uses a proxy to route the traffic. This is bad if you are trying to stream anything as they can see that you are streaming and kill it. This is hit or miss as they do not always monitor your traffic so some people get away with it, others do not. This is also bad if you need to connect to a VPN. But this is exactly why they have the isp.cingular APN - for business users.

The isp.cingular APN does not use a proxy and actually assigns an IP. If you are a business user and call and explain that you need to connect to a VPN you can get switched over to the PDA Connect plan. If you are a really smooth talker and get a nice rep, you can convince them to open you up the the isp.cingular APN on your PDA Personal MAX plan.

Hope this helps.

[Flapjack]

Thanks for the reply. After reading this, I called AT&T and talked to business customer service (since I'm a gov't employee). The rep was very firm when they said I need to pay $79.99 a month for the PDA Connect plan. The price is RIDICULOUS, even though you get unlimited messages and tethering.

I could care less about streaming video. It works just fine for me. I connect to my Slingbox at home and am able to watch baseball/football when I'm out and about.

The thing that kills me is no VPN connectivity. I have a home VPN that I would love to be able to connect to. I had no idea why it wasn't working for me. When I click and hold the connection for the VPN and select (connect), it shows me connecting, but then nothing happens.

I was under the impression that VPN would work regardless of connection.

**EDIT**
Since I'm a business user still under a 2-year contract, they offered me a $59.99 a month plan that only covers unlimited data on isp.cingular (no messaging). My current plan is the PDA Personal Max, which add $5 a month to get unlimited m2m (in addition to the 1500 messages included). So if I were to go with the $59 plan, I'd still have to add at least $5+5 to get 200 messages and unlimited m2m.

I'm thoroughly disgusted and disappointed in how expensive it is, just to be able to access a VPN once in a while....

There are two unlimited data plans available thru AT&T. They are:

PDA Personal MAX Unlimited and PDA Connect Unlimited.

PDA Connect Unlimited is not advertised on the website. You need to call and ask for it. Why you ask? The PDA Personal MAX plan only give you access the the wap.cingular APN (MediaNet settings). The PDA Connect plan gives you access to the isp.cingular APN (My ISP settings).

What is the difference between the two APNs? The wap.cingular APN uses a proxy to route the traffic. This is bad if you are trying to stream anything as they can see that you are streaming and kill it. This is hit or miss as they do not always monitor your traffic so some people get away with it, others do not. This is also bad if you need to connect to a VPN. But this is exactly why they have the isp.cingular APN - for business users.

The isp.cingular APN does not use a proxy and actually assigns an IP. If you are a business user and call and explain that you need to connect to a VPN you can get switched over to the PDA Connect plan. If you are a really smooth talker and get a nice rep, you can convince them to open you up the the isp.cingular APN on your PDA Personal MAX plan.

Hope this helps.

[marm0lade]

That price is pretty whack. I was told over on the AT&T forum that they have a lower priced PDA Connect plan for $49 a month. This plan is data only tho, no messaging and no tethering (even tho we all know how to bypass that :p ). He probably only told you about the most expensive plan. I would call back and see about getting the cheaper one if you don't need messaging.

Edit: Didn't see you got the price quote for data only. $60 a month is rape just to be able to access the isp.cingular APN. Shame on you AT&T.

[Flapjack]

I was first told about the $79 plan. I told them that was ridiculous. He said that was all he could offer. I asked for manager.

Manager was much more knowledgeable. Manager told me about $59 plan, but stressed that it had no messaging included. He said I could add $5 for 200 anywhere messages, and another $5 to get unlimited messaging to other AT&T users (like my girlfriend, on my other account).

The only reason he said I could have the $59 plan was because I was still within my 2 year contract....

Absolutely outrageous.

That price is pretty whack. I was told over on the AT&T forum that they have a lower priced PDA Connect plan for $49 a month. This plan is data only tho, no messaging and no tethering (even tho we all know how to bypass that :p ). He probably only told you about the most expensive plan. I would call back and see about getting the cheaper one if you don't need messaging.

Edit: Didn't see you got the price quote for data only. $60 a month is rape just to be able to access the isp.cingular APN. Shame on you AT&T.

[bgflores]

Your best bet with plan changes is to find a local rep in a store who has a clue. When I called to change my data plan, the prices I was quoted on the phone were $20 higher than the same plans on the web. The rep told me that only an in-store rep could give me the web prices.

I was first told about the $79 plan. I told them that was ridiculous. He said that was all he could offer. I asked for manager.

Manager was much more knowledgeable. Manager told me about $59 plan, but stressed that it had no messaging included. He said I could add $5 for 200 anywhere messages, and another $5 to get unlimited messaging to other AT&T users (like my girlfriend, on my other account).

The only reason he said I could have the $59 plan was because I was still within my 2 year contract....

Absolutely outrageous.

[bgflores]

If you read their data plan terms, it says something along the lines of, "Except for content formatted in accordance with AT&T standards, the use of data plans for streaming audio/video/yadda yadda is prohibited". CV and MobiTV and their XM Radio apps are undoubtedly content formatted in accordance with their standards. They don't say, "Don't stream"; instead, they tell you, "Stream only what we provide (and charge you extra for)".

When they give you cellular video for free?

Thats video streaming.

[Chem E Sam]

There are two unlimited data plans available thru AT&T. They are:

PDA Personal MAX Unlimited and PDA Connect Unlimited.

PDA Connect Unlimited is not advertised on the website. You need to call and ask for it. Why you ask? The PDA Personal MAX plan only gives you access to the wap.cingular APN (MediaNet settings). The PDA Connect plan gives you access to the isp.cingular APN (My ISP settings).

What is the difference between the two APNs? The wap.cingular APN uses a proxy to route the traffic. This is bad if you are trying to stream anything as they can see that you are streaming and kill it. This is hit or miss as they do not always monitor your traffic so some people get away with it, others do not. This is also bad if you need to connect to a VPN. But this is exactly why they have the isp.cingular APN - for business users.

The isp.cingular APN does not use a proxy and actually assigns an IP. If you are a business user and call and explain that you need to connect to a VPN you can get switched over to the PDA Connect plan. If you are a really smooth talker and get a nice rep, you can convince them to open you up the the isp.cingular APN on your PDA Personal MAX plan.

Hope this helps.

i am using the ips.cingular and i have a BBC plan with tethering. not the business plan you talk about.