Extreme Battery Drain

[WayneC003]

I have an ATT Tilt purchased almost 10/25/2007. I am running Duttythroy latest ROM, the one from after the crash. I have installed the following software:

Duttythroy HTC Voice Recorder
Silent Service BtIO
TCPMP the Core Pocket Media Player
Resco Today Skin Smile
Resco Today Skin Compact
Resco Today Skin Alfa
Resco Today Plug-in
Resco Registry Add-in
Resco FTP Add-in
Resco Explorer
WedIS FlexWallet 2006 rev5
BCR World Card
Telenav for Windows Mobile
Cingular WAP Media Net Setting
TaurusBulba Tilt keyboard fix
EffComm Today Radio Device Toggle
Aspecto Software WiFiFoFum
Geeks Toolbox.com SiriusWM5
Google Maps
Emunutz HTC Home Customizer
Spb Time
Omega One 1-Calc full
David Andr Batti
HTC HomePlug
HTC HTC Home
Xda-developers HTC Homeplug
The EquinoXe Wizard retouched Dialer
MoDaCo CamerAware
JottoSoft Finger Friendly Friends

I have keep track of my battery usage. And it is miserable.
Yesterday 11/01/2007 @7:16am battery is at 100% by 8:50 pm battery is @ 14% the only thing I had on is Bluetooth.
Today 11/02/2007 @ 9:06am battery is @100% by 9:17pm battery is at 5%.
Both days I had to hit reset twice due to screen freeze that every time led to eventual screen pixilation.
Does anyone know of issues with any of the software I have installed or what is causing the extreme battery drain? Any help will be greatly appreciated, as 12 hour standby time is simply unacceptable.

[yi3o8]

Might not help, but have you tried Kaiser Tweak?

It is a simple app that will turn off your data connections after they idle along with a couple of battery savers. You might just need to condition your battery a little but don't expect the phone to last more than a few days of normal use (I don't even have bluetooth on all of the time.)

[PhilipL]

Hi

Bluetooth drains the battery quickly as the device needs to remain fully on (even though the screen is off) in order for Bluetooth to work.

When the device is on then any other applications that like to do things will use processor power as well making matters worse.

Regards

Phil

[belchie]

Just for a reference point, if it's a help, I'm using the same ROM and have had bluetooth, 3G and wifi on all day.

At 9am battery was 100%
At 5pm battery was 78%

[duttythroy]

Just for a reference point, if it's a help, I'm using the same ROM and have had bluetooth, 3G and wifi on all day.

At 9am battery was 100%
At 5pm battery was 78%

tHATS impressive battery results are you using kaiser tweaks and which one are you using

[Doug2873]

ya please let us know how youre getting that kind of battery life because at by about 5pm my battery is somewhere around 50%

[dbaser]

Also don't let the HTC Home Weather Plug-in automatically update the weather. I had that enabled and saw my battery drain very rapidly.

[jaingram]

I think alot has to do with how strong the cell signal is in your area. The stronger it is, the less searching, the searching will kill a battery

[chrisnash]

I think alot has to do with how strong the cell signal is in your area. The stronger it is, the less searching, the searching will kill a battery

Agreed. Problem is the radio is so cr@p that it really struggles on my home network. I might try another Sim from a different carrier and see if it helps.

[WayneC003]

Ok, guys What kind of battery life do you get with bluetooth ACTIVE? You really don't expect me to believe that you only get 12 -13 hours of battery life. :confused: My wizard gets 2 1/2 days and that device is 1 1/2 years old. Are you telling me bluetooth tech has gotten worst in a year and a half. Please respond. And belchie Please explain how you manage get such inpressive battery life. Just for a reference point, if it's a help, I'm using the same ROM and have had bluetooth, 3G and wifi on all day.

At 9am battery was 100%
At 5pm battery was 78%

[blueskysafes]

Battery life?

I have to keep it plugged in to appreciate the phone. Data usage, TeleNav, are all battery killers.

[cars4978]

Even if you aren't connected via data connections, do you have the 3G radio on the phone turned off? Simply having that radio on and available drains the battery like you can't believe. The first day that I had that one, my battery drained like crazy. But turning that off and leaving blue tooth running all day my battery drop is considerably less.

[njmarchetti]

12 hours battery life is pretty much what I shoot for with an active 3G connection. Where the technology stands today, it simply annilihates battery life.

If you want to see battery life like your wizard, then simple turn off the 3G bands. Your device will have no problem lasting 1-2 days.

As new ROMs keep coming out battery life should continue to improve, but you won't see anything comparable to your wizard unless you turn off the 3G or use a Bandswitch app to deactivate it when not in use.

[mike19722]

I got the same rom and the tilt.....same problem:confused: :mad:

[WayneC003]

12 hours battery life is pretty much what I shoot for with an active 3G connection. Where the technology stands today, it simply annilihates battery life.

If you want to see battery life like your wizard, then simple turn off the 3G bands. Your device will have no problem lasting 1-2 days.

As new ROMs keep coming out battery life should continue to improve, but you won't see anything comparable to your wizard unless you turn off the 3G or use a Bandswitch app to deactivate it when not in use.

I have it turned off 3G with the Comm Manager should I be turning it off some other way. According to the Comm Manager the ONLY thing I have on is bluetooth. I have 3g off, data connection off, MS push off, Beam off, WLAN off. As I said when i turned the bluetooth off I dropped only 2% power but once I turned on the bluetooth within an hour i was down to 83%.

[njmarchetti]

Was the device in sleep mode the entire hour and still drained that much??? :confused: If that is the case maybe you have a bad battery, because otherwise you should not see that much power drain.

When I turned 3G off on my 8525 I could easily get 1-1/2 days with bluetooth on. Haven't used much bluetooth since getting the Tilt, however, so maybe there are some power management issues with the bluetooth.

Does turning BT off help your battery drain?

[energy59]

Discarge totally the battery 10 time, and recharge at maximum and more time.

The battery work 3 day, no prob.

Bye:D

[belchie]

tHATS impressive battery results are you using kaiser tweaks and which one are you using

I'm using your Rom: Dutty's Hybrid 10/15/07
Radio: 1.27.12.11
Protocal version: 22.45.88.07H

Plus KaiserTweak (Version 0.4 - October 9, 2007) with all settings as advised.

I'm very impressed with the speed and battery life and am sure there's a big imrpovement on the standard TMobile UK rom replaced.

[jeffreycentex]

If you want to see battery life like your wizard, then simple turn off the 3G bands. Your device will have no problem lasting 1-2 days.

Not necessarily. EDGE eats up more more battery life for me as it has a very poor signal strength versus the full strength 3G signal I get. I get about two days on 3G (if I can keep it on 3G) and I get maybe 10 hours on Edge...

[squiggs1982]

Just for a reference point, if it's a help, I'm using the same ROM and have had bluetooth, 3G and wifi on all day.

At 9am battery was 100%
At 5pm battery was 78%

Have to say, that's pretty close to what I'm getting too. 3G on wit push mail, but other than that, I'm quite pleased with the Kaiser's battery life.

[energy59]

Put new radio version in my signature, bye

[scottwilkins]

As much as I love the HTC line of devices, sometime I just gotta wonder about some things, like how good is the radio in these devices. Those who know me know I think their camera's are utter c.r.a.p. Oh well..

Here's the best post on battery life and such:

http://forums.wireless.att.com/cng/board/message?board.id=cingular&thread.id=60187

[WayneC003]

This morning I flashed with DuttyThroy new beta 3 and I only installed 1-Calc, Flexwallet, HTC Home Customerizer, Telenav and PocketToolman. I turned off everything except Bluetooth and I am getting much better battery performance. 8:17am battery at 100% , 5:56pm battery at 86%. I must admit I have been charging at night and running down to under 15% before I charge again. I don't know if the three days of doing this, logging battery performance has affected the performance over all. I will continue to charge and drain and log my daily results.

[drjekyll]

WayneC003: Looks like it's been a week. Any trend or change in the results?

Anyone else: Did you attempt energy59's 10x drain suggestion? What were your results?

Reason I'm asking: my 8925 just arrived, so I might as well use best practices from the beginning. :D

Best regards,

[energy59]

WayneC003: Looks like it's been a week. Any trend or change in the results?

Anyone else: Did you attempt energy59's 10x drain suggestion? What were your results?

Reason I'm asking: my 8925 just arrived, so I might as well use best practices from the beginning. :D

Best regards,

10 drain for me, charge complete and descharge complete, put phone in gsm mode, 3 day working perfect, bye

[AllTheWay]

WayneC003: Looks like it's been a week. Any trend or change in the results?

Anyone else: Did you attempt energy59's 10x drain suggestion? What were your results?

Reason I'm asking: my 8925 just arrived, so I might as well use best practices from the beginning. :D

Best regards,

Right from the begining you should let it die and then fully charge it about 5 times...I did that and the battery is working just fine...I did notice that by turning off the 3G that my battery life has inmproved signifigantly...I am now running Duty's Touch Tilt BETA ROM w/ new radio. Everything is working great.

[Sane]

3G eats more battery, thats a known fact. There isnt a phone in the market today that has a 2-3 day battery life with 3G on. How good is your coverage has a huge impact in it also.

In weekdays I talk around 1-2h every day, have my email sync going on from 9am to 6pm in every hour + I do manual checks 3-4 times a day and i do some random web searching. Evening I have 20%-30%, thats not bad.

Naturally if I would dig up some of my old Nokia's that doesnt have 3G or any functions in it, im looking a battery time of at least 3 days...

In my opinion Kaiser battery should last for a full day in any normal use...

[l7777]

10 drain for me, charge complete and descharge complete, put phone in gsm mode, 3 day working perfect, bye

Which is great that it has worked for you, but has anyone else been able to get similar results? That seems like a pretty big jump since most people claim that a day's battery life is good on a device that gets used heavily. How much do you do with your phone? I have weather updates, bluetooth, direct push e-mail, two imap e-mail accounts checked every 10 minutes, all with 3g turned on and only get about 12 - 14 hours. Changing from 3g to edge and turning off bluetooth doesn't yield a significant battery increase for me. It also plummits from those levels if I use wireless or the GPS with live search or google maps.

[Moe5508]

10 drain for me, charge complete and descharge complete, put phone in gsm mode, 3 day working perfect, bye
Here's a dumb question: is there a way of accelerating the 10x battery? or do you just wait (with Bluetooth ON, 3G ON, HSDPA ON) for battery to drain on its own?

[RemE]

Sorry energy59, I must disagree, lithiums don't need to be cycled, this 10x is a waste of time and battery life, Bye!

The big power hogs are 3G and WiFi. Bluetooth has little effect on battery life as well, under 10% per day. My Kaiser, restricted to Edge, bluetooth ON, drops 10-20% per day. I usually keep 3G off unless I need the speed for a specific task.

I have found WiFi when left on has sucked my phone dry in a few short hours and I wasn't connected to anything and am now very carefull to turn it off when not in use. When I use WiFi with an application like Slingbox, I get approx 4 hours operation with continuous use.

I'm finding Kaiser to be on par with my 8525 for battery life. I will be trying Dutty's final Cube ROM soon and hope things remain the same.

[drjekyll]

Thanks for the follow-up, everyone. :)

[Vexamus]

Have you guys seen this bug ugly ass thing? I'm considering getting it because having batt life AND all my necessary technologies is highly important in my work(roaming voip systems, push email, etc.. are all required by my employment). But good lord is it hideous!!!!!

http://www.boxwave.com/products/highcapacitybattery/electraspan-high-capacity-extended-battery-htc-kaiser_2642.htm

Anyone try this bad boy yet?