View Full Version : Dell Axim X51v WM6 A03 (Football) Kitchen
lennysh
12th November 2007, 12:00 PM
Before I plan a release, I have a kitchen that, with Football's permission, I am working on. I was just wondering how many people would even download and use this?? I'm just not sure how many people would even be interested in this. As of right now, I believe it is using his WM6 A03 as the base. As of right now, it works perfect. Just gotta add a few more features. I have flashed my Axim like 15 times so far in the last two day's testing.
Just wondering how many people are even interested....
This kitchen is using the same version BuildOS that PPCGeek's released for the Apache (6700) on 11/05/07.
Not sure on the release date. If there doesn't seem to be anybody that even want's it, then there will probably not be a public release...
Let me know what ya think!
HappyMM
12th November 2007, 02:31 PM
Just wondering how many people are even interested....
Thanks for your effort.
As far as now, I use vivi4700.exe for X51V A03 RTM.
Waiting for your version.
lennysh
12th November 2007, 02:39 PM
The PPCGeeks-BuildOS that I'm using does it all. It does pagepool automatically.
You load it, choose your OEM's that you want, and hit the play button, and then when it's done, the NB0, and CRC file is in a new folder on your desktop. All you would have to do then, is format your SD to FAT32, and copy the files to your SD, put it in your X51v, and load the SD loader, and then flash. That's it.
icevapor
12th November 2007, 03:25 PM
I'd use it. I've been waiting for a kitchen for my x51v.
lennysh
12th November 2007, 03:35 PM
Ok, kewl.... now just need 4998 more people that want it...
Just joking...
lol...
keep em coming..
EDIT: Also, if there is anything anybody would love to see in this kitchen, let me know. I'm thinking of even including some OEM's that I, and soon, other's have tested to be released as a seperate download. So if there is any OEMs you may want me to include in this, let me know so I can test...
makuu
12th November 2007, 04:27 PM
I have my own to build a french rom, but if your's is easier to use, I'll use it.
I plan to include x50 mix and aximwireless power, but I guess you should ask for permission the creators of these apps.
the0ne.john
12th November 2007, 05:01 PM
I would love a kitchen. I know many people that would love to tinker with it. Thank You for your efforts! :D
lennysh
12th November 2007, 05:15 PM
I have my own to build a french rom, but if your's is easier to use, I'll use it.
I plan to include x50 mix and aximwireless power, but I guess you should ask for permission the creators of these apps.
Yeah, there is a special directory where the ROM, SYS, and OEM directory's go. All of your user/custom/optional OEMs go in a different folder. So, for your french base rom, you could probably just add those three folder's with only the core stuff to that directory, and move all of your optional oems to the USER_OEM directory, and it will probably work good for you. The only thing is, the Axim has a very small partition where the flash is saved on the device. I had to make seperate OEM's out of the few apps that I do not use that actually came on the device Stock like Odyssey, the switcher bar, the HTC home app, office, windows update, cutomer care, modem link, internet connection sharing, and a few more so that i could have more room for the apps i actually do use..
The OS partition on the Axim is only 33.75 megs... I'm used to my Apache which has 55 - 60 megs. But it werks. Trying to add some more stuff, and make a few more oems b4 release... And o/c, gotta let Football do some major testing to see if it's "up to snuff". Would love to integrate his future A05 into this b4 release..
MadMic
12th November 2007, 05:53 PM
I've been wondering about embedding my security app into the ROM so if some *insert nasty word* nicks it and figures out how to do a hard-reset then they're stuffed :D unless they're smart enough to figure out how to flash from the SD card... in which case they know what they're doing and quite frankly good luck to them :eek: :eek: :eek:
So dude... gimme! hehe - seruiously a realase would be wicked...
lennysh
12th November 2007, 05:56 PM
I've been wondering about embedding my security app into the ROM so if some *insert nasty word* nicks it and figures out how to do a hard-reset then they're stuffed :D unless they're smart enough to figure out how to flash from the SD card... in which case they know what they're doing and quite frankly good luck to them :eek: :eek: :eek:
So dude... gimme! hehe - seruiously a realase would be wicked...
Well, unless I can find an app to convert the NB0 to the IMG file that the Dell Updater uses' to flash the rom over activesync, this kitchen only works using the SD card flash method.
So any idea's on the NB0 to IMG conversion?
HappyMM
13th November 2007, 07:07 AM
Any idea's on the NB0 to IMG conversion?
IMG is not necessary.
NB0 with SD is the best and fastest way to flash ROM, right ?
makuu
13th November 2007, 09:20 AM
Yeah, there is a special directory where the ROM, SYS, and OEM directory's go. All of your user/custom/optional OEMs go in a different folder. So, for your french base rom, you could probably just add those three folder's with only the core stuff to that directory, and move all of your optional oems to the USER_OEM directory, and it will probably work good for you. The only thing is, the Axim has a very small partition where the flash is saved on the device. I had to make seperate OEM's out of the few apps that I do not use that actually came on the device Stock like Odyssey, the switcher bar, the HTC home app, office, windows update, cutomer care, modem link, internet connection sharing, and a few more so that i could have more room for the apps i actually do use..
The OS partition on the Axim is only 33.75 megs... I'm used to my Apache which has 55 - 60 megs. But it werks. Trying to add some more stuff, and make a few more oems b4 release... And o/c, gotta let Football do some major testing to see if it's "up to snuff". Would love to integrate his future A05 into this b4 release..
I have no doubt it'll work for me as I am building both EN and FR rom, using bepe tools.
Well, unless I can find an app to convert the NB0 to the IMG file that the Dell Updater uses' to flash the rom over activesync, this kitchen only works using the SD card flash method.
So any idea's on the NB0 to IMG conversion?
I was involved in the img2nb0 project, so I could try to contact markyoung the developper that made the tool, maybe he could create the reverse tool to build IMG from NB0, however I still think it's more convenient to upgrade via SD than USB.
Antineutrino
13th November 2007, 09:36 AM
An easy kitchen for x51v...
Thanks...
It would be really useful!!!!!
:D :D :D :D
lennysh
13th November 2007, 11:03 AM
I have no doubt it'll work for me as I am building both EN and FR rom, using bepe tools.
I was involved in the img2nb0 project, so I could try to contact markyoung the developper that made the tool, maybe he could create the reverse tool to build IMG from NB0, however I still think it's more convenient to upgrade via SD than USB.
Kewl! I do not mind the SD Flash method at all. But If it's possible to do the IMG flash, it would make kitchen more n00b friendly...
Thanks!
lennysh
13th November 2007, 11:59 AM
IMG is not necessary.
NB0 with SD is the best and fastest way to flash ROM, right ?
Yes, I agree it is the best way, and unsure as of which is faster but.... I'd prefer it if the Axim could be in the cradle, load kitchen, pick the oem's you wanna install, hit play, and when it get's done, it start's the flash process right then, and with just a click or two, start's flashing the Axim right there. This BuildOS has a list of different flash methods that you can choose from before hitting play. So only the real n00b's would need to use the cradle flash method. Everybody else could choose SD Flash method as their option.
This kitchen also supports the saving of all your selections, and other options. So you would only need to pick your flash method once, and then save it to your own personal txt file. Then you would just load kitchen, and then open your saved txt file with your selections/options in it. So you do not have to keep repeating yourself with this kitchen for anything. Pagepool, OEMs, and all other options are savable.
BTW, this kitchen is designed for each and every device that can be flashed. As long as the setting's are correct, anything's possible. :eek: So if there is a kitchen you would like, pm me, and let me know...
nonpaq
13th November 2007, 09:58 PM
Count me as someone who would love to have a x51v kitchen.
but .... what's a kitchen (just kidding).
Steven855
13th November 2007, 10:20 PM
Yes, I agree it is the best way, and unsure as of which is faster but.... I'd prefer it if the Axim could be in the cradle, load kitchen, pick the oem's you wanna install, hit play, and when it get's done, it start's the flash process right then, and with just a click or two, start's flashing the Axim right there. This BuildOS has a list of different flash methods that you can choose from before hitting play. So only the real n00b's would need to use the cradle flash method. Everybody else could choose SD Flash method as their option.
This kitchen also supports the saving of all your selections, and other options. So you would only need to pick your flash method once, and then save it to your own personal txt file. Then you would just load kitchen, and then open your saved txt file with your selections/options in it. So you do not have to keep repeating yourself with this kitchen for anything. Pagepool, OEMs, and all other options are savable.
BTW, this kitchen is designed for each and every device that can be flashed. As long as the setting's are correct, anything's possible. :eek: So if there is a kitchen you would like, pm me, and let me know...
Could you please add support for the QVGA axim X50 (mid)? That would really give it a much needed support boost. Can you also add support for dumping rom images from devices?
kenneth11414
14th November 2007, 02:15 AM
heyy is it possible if you can do it for the x50v please i kno there are others besides me that would like to take away all of the default crap with the orginal rom. please you will make me more happy axim owner. thanks =]
nellyspageli
14th November 2007, 03:14 AM
definitely interested!
lennysh
14th November 2007, 12:00 PM
Could you please add support for the QVGA axim X50 (mid)? That would really give it a much needed support boost.
:) Yes, I have thought about adding the X50.
1. One question tho, as with the X3 series, I'm assuming that the same ROM can be installed on the X50, and the X50v ?? If so, then it would def be possible...
2. The main problem with that, is I'll prob more than likely need a tester since I do not personally have the device...
3. Also, I'll need any links to pages that have any information like the PagePool address (if diff than the X51v) and stuff like that so I can make sure all the settings are correct in the kitchen. Any other information like the exact resolution (240x320 ??) and stuff like that....
Can you also add support for dumping rom images from devices?
:cool: Can anybody point me to any links that show this process?? (Never actually done this myself with my Axim X51v. I have with me X3i, but it was with the Dell Rom Utility.) If so, I can prob more than likely add it to the menu's as a tool to use from within buildos..
Steven855
14th November 2007, 10:57 PM
:) Yes, I have thought about adding the X50.
1. One question tho, as with the X3 series, I'm assuming that the same ROM can be installed on the X50, and the X50v ?? If so, then it would def be possible...
2. The main problem with that, is I'll prob more than likely need a tester since I do not personally have the device...
3. Also, I'll need any links to pages that have any information like the PagePool address (if diff than the X51v) and stuff like that so I can make sure all the settings are correct in the kitchen. Any other information like the exact resolution (240x320 ??) and stuff like that....
:cool: Can anybody point me to any links that show this process?? (Never actually done this myself with my Axim X51v. I have with me X3i, but it was with the Dell Rom Utility.) If so, I can prob more than likely add it to the menu's as a tool to use from within buildos..
To answer some of your questions, X50 rom and the X50v rom are not the same. I think this is because the X50v has a 3d accelerator and VGA resolution and the X50 doesn't (not sure about difference between X50 mid and X50 low, imagine they're both the same but I am not sure). If you look around here and Aximsite, you will find threads about people who bricked their X50 trying to trying to flash a X50v rom image. Also, there is the Grab-it tool here at XDA-Devs that can be used to get a rom dump, but you manually have to use hex editor to get the rom into a flashable format. Try to find out if anyone involved in the IMG to NB0 project can help you make a version of the program for X50 roms (using the Grab-it tool is a pain and I keep getting error messages saying cannot create file). For pagepool, have you looked on handhelds.org at the X50(1) status page yet (it mainly has linux information, but also has valuable hardware information too)?
jflick35
15th November 2007, 03:52 AM
OK I'm a total newb....... whats a kitchen and I DID a search too.
Kevin1a
15th November 2007, 10:09 AM
Pardon my ignorance, but what is a "kitchen." Is this just another way of designating a ROM as cooked?
fernandosaez
15th November 2007, 10:52 PM
HELL I WOULD LOVE IT!!!!
A kitchen lets u build yor own rom with your apps installed inside the rom. Cant say for shure, but this makes it run faster, since there is less memory involved.
Kevin1a
16th November 2007, 03:28 AM
Sounds good. I never want to have to install Resco Explorer or WA2 again. And that pesky default file explorer, msn messenger, and a whole bunch of other crap can go.
Antineutrino
16th November 2007, 03:13 PM
Sounds good. I never want to have to install Resco Explorer or WA2 again. And that pesky default file explorer, msn messenger, and a whole bunch of other crap can go.
I agree...
The real bad thing of the official released ROMS is that they are full of crap... There are many useless programs that can be replaced by most performing ones. The original File Explorer is one of this... I'm wondering why M$ continue to put that also on WM6. Resco Explorer is WAY BETTER (IMHO the BEST) than the M$ File Explorer!!!
The other sh*t is the way 'close button' acts... Magic Button or Wisbar Advance are the programs to use!
:D :D
Cheers
GameDoctor
17th November 2007, 12:07 PM
Put me on the list as voting for the kitchen release. I have an X51v.
Thanks for the effort and testing!
lennysh
19th November 2007, 02:02 PM
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mirskym
20th November 2007, 11:08 PM
Count me in on the kitchen! That's a great idea! :) I'm getting tired of manually reloading every app after flashing a new ROM. (And if you think you can just reload from a backup - think again).
If I can throw out the junk apps and include as many of the good ones (like Resco file-explorer) it would save loads of time!:p
jordiboy
21st November 2007, 08:23 PM
I would also love to see a kitchen for the x50V.
just_jeepin
21st November 2007, 08:56 PM
Count me in!
pre112
22nd November 2007, 04:06 AM
now only 4968 peeps to go!!!!!
im down for it!!!!!!!
x51v
lennysh
23rd November 2007, 03:29 AM
Beta Release will be available soon.... Still waiting for a few additions to the BuildOS... May have to release without these additions... but hopefully not... It works now, but just waiting for a memory meter to let you know it's too full before you build since the Axim X51v has a very small ROM Partition :eek: (like 39 - 40 megs).
Also, may only be distributing beta to only a select few... Still working on how to decide whom... Maybe the first certain number of people that actually replied to this message... May even start a public poll for beta testers to vote on... hmmm....
pre112
24th November 2007, 01:09 AM
count me in too!!!!!
dk2
18th December 2007, 09:55 PM
Any updates on a release date?
lennysh
19th December 2007, 12:23 PM
Any updates on a release date?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=346677
Updates will be posted there to help me from having to post more than once.
Technology
28th December 2007, 04:50 PM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=346677
Updates will be posted there to help me from having to post more than once.Yes, please count me in!
JayNewlin
28th December 2007, 07:19 PM
Count me in ... Ready and willing to be a tester, too!
CSOS
28th December 2007, 11:48 PM
Before I plan a release, I have a kitchen that, with Football's permission, I am working on. I was just wondering how many people would even download and use this?? I'm just not sure how many people would even be interested in this. As of right now, I believe it is using his WM6 A03 as the base. As of right now, it works perfect. Just gotta add a few more features. I have flashed my Axim like 15 times so far in the last two day's testing.
Just wondering how many people are even interested....
This kitchen is using the same version BuildOS that PPCGeek's released for the Apache (6700) on 11/05/07.
Not sure on the release date. If there doesn't seem to be anybody that even want's it, then there will probably not be a public release...
Let me know what ya think!
Can i please see the link to this ?
Ap[ache 6700 ?
I assume it can be used to work on the PPC6700 by sprint "utstar r similar name " ?
AND YES, I too am looking forward to a new build as i still cannot connect to any wireless network.
Does anybody have the last original ROM from Dell for the Axim 51V ?
I need to access my wireless network for surveilance cams.
Thank yu.
madi123
31st December 2007, 08:38 AM
I'm in. Please include me as a beta tester.
james31554
1st January 2008, 04:16 PM
I would also like to be included as a beta tester.
hkfriends
2nd January 2008, 02:57 PM
count me in for tester :)
icdguy
15th January 2008, 12:24 AM
count me in
nellyspageli
15th January 2008, 01:40 AM
Can i please see the link to this ?
Ap[ache 6700 ?
I assume it can be used to work on the PPC6700 by sprint "utstar r similar name " ?
AND YES, I too am looking forward to a new build as i still cannot connect to any wireless network.
Does anybody have the last original ROM from Dell for the Axim 51V ?
I need to access my wireless network for surveilance cams.
Thank yu.
try installing the a03 sp1.
the a12 rom is available on the dell website last time i checked.
you can count me in as a beta tester!
Qbix
15th January 2008, 08:34 AM
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the a17 rom is available on the dell website last time i checked.
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if I remember WM05 A17 is non official Football ROM
Can you post a direct link to it I can't find it on dell site
CSOS
15th January 2008, 03:19 PM
if I remember WM05 A17 is non official Football ROM
Can you post a direct link to it I can't find it on dell site
To my knowledge, that particular Rom is only in russian..:(
nellyspageli
17th January 2008, 10:38 PM
sorry, i meant a12 that was a typo :D
ericksonlk
21st January 2008, 12:52 PM
I'll wait for the kitchen release 'cause I'm always late to get Beta Testing tickets... plz keep us up to date. Thx:confused:
seribe
21st January 2008, 11:50 PM
sorry, i meant a12 that was a typo :D
Hi
you can fin the A12 in this link http://support.euro.dell.com/support/downloads/download.aspx?c=pt&l=pt&s=gen&releaseid=R129272&SystemID=PDA_AXIM_X51&servicetag=&os=PPM&osl=EN&deviceid=7643&devlib=0&typecnt=0&vercnt=4&catid=-1&impid=-1&formatcnt=1&libid=7&fileid=172104
bbsux
22nd January 2008, 12:48 PM
Count me in...
johnnyok
28th January 2008, 03:24 PM
yes......thanx
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