Android on Universal

[xb]

Android is a new open source mobile operating system that Google developed and an SDK has just been made available.

It would be great to see this ported to the Universal if its possible.

[Falk]

I don't see why it would not run since the Universal can already run Linux (to some extent) and Android is just based on that. Whether and to what extent the hardware can be supported is another question that only our programmers can answer. As we can surely count HTC out on supporting their legacy devices it might not be worth anybodies time in the end.

[mamaich]

SDK for Android would not help at all. It is just a set of headers and import libraries. To port something to a device you need complete source codes of its kernel, software, etc. Even more - we don't know hardware requirements for Android. It may require the NOR flash to run from it - and we don't have it on our device at all.

[cr2]

Even more - we don't know hardware requirements for Android. It may require the NOR flash to run from it - and we don't have it on our device at all.

Nobody uses NOR these days, it's too expensive and provides no real
benefit over NAND. The XIP days are over.
I hate java with passion, but i don't see any reason why Android software
will not be running on the universal.

[DJ Palmis]

Any news? I mean: can Universal run an Android ROM?
I saw something on tytnII, is there an hope?

[wizzmaster]

can anyone confirm if android requires a customised hardware or minimum requirements....

[OllieD]

By The Looks Of It I Shouldnt See Why Not...
I Saw That Video Of It On The Tytn And It Looks Like Its Just A Linux Based Kernel Booting Though Haret.

Theirs Already Some Pretty Good Progress With Linux On The UNI And I Dont See Why It Shouldnt Be Possible To Patch This Up. (Wish I Could But Im Not A Linux Coder :()

[Terramoto]

maybe something like this :D (http://androidcommunity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=129)
(click on the emote)
could be done for univ.

[OllieD]

I Get My Replacement XDA Exec On Monday Hopefully So Ill See If I Can Do Anything. No Promises Though ;)

Regards,

OllieD

[sev7en]

It looks promising but I am also awaiting the Ubuntu Mobile edition for PCC: it looks awesome!

[jackokring]

hi a .CAB solution should be possible. tis my prefered choice at present. KVM with class jar anyone??

[al_3sjad]

any news ?

[orb3000]

In this thread we have Android ported in to a Kaiser, hope someone is working on an Android ROM for UNI!!

It looks very nice the interface

Does anyone knows more info about this?

Thanks

Gracias

[jakobnord]

Any news on Android for Uni?
I've been trying to get it to work on my ELFin too, but i gave up when i only managed to get the Linwizard running without startx... (i dont know how to telnet and startx -.-)

[screwhead89]

Any news on this?

I'm thinking of getting a universal but i'm gathering info on it atm!

[nihutams]

Has anyone been able to get some real progress on this matter?

[khawn]

I installed this (http://www.myhtcphone.com/downloads/14-files/3-file-for-automatic-and-easy-installation) onto my main memory, but when I run it I get a blank screen and the phone vibrates continuously, what am I doing wrong? I think this version is supposed to work on the Universal.

[dj_in_k]

hye !
i also tried to install android on my universal, but it didn't work at all, i only had a black sreen and it vibrate without stopping. if someone has an idea, or a new thread were we can find out a running android os for uni... i take it !

[NightFallTech]

Is there a project? .. I'm a developer and would be willing to assist, but i haven't got enough experience with these devices to start the project off myself...

[orb3000]

Count me in as a beta tester

It would be great to have Android on Uni!!

So this news means that very soon developers can start working on android to be ported on other devices!!!

http://android-developers.blogspot.com/

[Win_XP]

I'm in too :) would be nice to see how our Uni's will handle Android :)

[ZaurusUser]

I installed this (http://www.myhtcphone.com/downloads/14-files/3-file-for-automatic-and-easy-installation) onto my main memory, but when I run it I get a blank screen and the phone vibrates continuously, what am I doing wrong? I think this version is supposed to work on the Universal.

this is android for the htc touch. To make it run on a universal you need a different kernel (zImage). I tried the debian kernel and the poky kernel but both of them are not working (I don't get the "blank-screen-and-vibrating" situation with those kernels).
Anyone planning on compiling a kernel for the uni ?

Z.

[bull90000]

I own universal and tried wm6, wm6.1, moko linux but i am not satisfied as wm6 and 6.1 / linux is slow and it also do not give video call support plus my device turns off automatically at 75% of my battery power. any help / sugeestions ?

[domi007]

I own universal and tried wm6, wm6.1, moko linux but i am not satisfied as wm6 and 6.1 / linux is slow and it also do not give video call support plus my device turns off automatically at 75% of my battery power. any help / sugeestions ?

Have a look at the Wiki pages<- there are many solutions for your battery problem.

[enigma1nz]

Tested Android for Touch - doesn't work. In fact, didn't even install, let alone run.

[domi007]

Hi Everybody,
I am also a Universal owner. I read through the whole night and find out, what is the main obstacle we have to jump over:
For the Universal the latest kernel, which really works is the kernel from handhelds.org, this is the 2.6.21-hh20 kernel. It boots up, without any problem.
But the Android support only the kernels above 2.6.23 (some sources say above 2.6.25) because some system services of the Android requires the new kernel stuff , which can be only founded in the newer kernels.
So, therefore as I tried to run Android on my Universal, using the one and only kernel it failed, because the init-script couldn't call the proper services.
Now, we have two ways:
1. We port the 2.6.25 kernel to our Universal (it requires many work-afaik because there are lots of drivers, special codes, and so on..)
2. We grab the required stuff from the 2.6.25 kernel, and implement it into our working kernel (it is also not a small weekend job)

Alone I couldn't do this. I think, the 2. version is the better, but to be honest: I don't know. There are some reference guides (How they did port the android for the BlueAngel, which has also the 2.6.21 kernel (http://markmail.org/message/fn7dl4sdhlebsmwh?q=2.6.21-hh20+android&page=1&refer=eqt7skhcop5vwy7g))

If someone can add something to this, please feel free.
DOMy

[orb3000]

Thanks for that info

Hopefully the great chefs can do something about it!

[tomal]

My 1st thought is...why we need Android in Uni....are there any additional advantages?

Uni has a similarity with BA in some areas, for instance they are both uses the same WLAN controller.

[Tutanchamun]

I would like to test any version of an ported Android.

But if there are the described problems with the old/newer kernels android uses....we have to build a kernel with the improvements of the newer, but based on the old kernel, shouldn't we?

In fact i dont understand so much of programming and writing a codebased thing...but maybe i can test any version?...

The main advantage of the android platform might be the point, that it has a big community and many people developing solutions for problems, like we know it from the WinMo-community....ist't it so?

Bye....Tutanchamun...:)

[domi007]

First of all: thank you!

Testers will be needed in the future.
I tried to do the porting, but after 7 days and nights without any success I feel very sad.
I did my best, but it was not enough...

DEVELOPERS:
Why don't you do this little job for us: make a 2.6.25 kernel ready for the Universal??
After that it wouldn't be a big thing to make this kernel Android-compatible...

DOMy

[domi007]

Hi everybody,
How are you?
Good? Okay.

Oh well, what did I want to say....please help me.... oh, yes, I know already:
First on the world:I GOT ANDROID BOOTING ON MY HTC UNIVERSAL!!!!

Yes, yes, your dreams are now true, the Android boots on the Universal!
Kernel is still 2.6.21-hh20
Android version: 0.8

Notices:
It is a very-very-very ALPHA version: no touch screen, you can only use the built-in keyboard. Slow as the hell (because of it is only version 0.8). Screen driver is not very Android friendly: the displayed picture does some little jumpings (you can see it on the video above).
Nothing works:
GSM-it connects to the network (my friend could ring me, but I didn't see anything on the screen, such as "XY calling you..." and I couldn't aswer with the keys). Outgoing calls: they do not work (Android says: Calling.... and then you get back to the dial pad)
BT/WiFi-I didn't find any setting to control them. I think, it is because of the version of Android.

Programs included in this version of Android:
-Maps: without WiFi and GSM it is equal to nothing
-Browser: same as Maps
-Developer Apps: nothing special
-Dialing: explained above
-Contacts: nothing

So, I must say, that this is only a proof-of concept, that shows us: Android can run on the Universal.

Stay tuned, because I am trying to work on the 1.0 version also.
YouTube Video: Android 0.8 booting on the HTC Universal
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYb2nZyC4nA) (youtube has removed my music :(:mad:)

If anybody needs the files, PM me for them.

Yours,
DOMy

[orb3000]

Congrats domi007!!

It´s a very good start
Keep up the good work!

I´ll wait to a stable version to test it

[Win_XP]

Great, waiting for files to test it :)

[the_fish]

Stay tuned, because I am trying to work on the 1.0 version also.


it will only work if the SD drivers are fine! so if it locks up, its because of the sd drivers...

[wovens]

I get to the red dot going up and down and then ...nothing! Deep freeze.
Can you share your default.txt file, please?

[ivorh]

Do you think the kernel still needs updating to 2.6.25? who built the .21 kernel? are there known issues building the later kernels? (i.e. is there any more information on this anywhere?)

Is it worth setting up a wiki page for building/running android to get more people involved?

--edit: ah found the kernel info: http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/UniversalKernel
I'll have a rummage and look at what a newer kernel needs when I have some time.

--edit: ok I got the 2.6.21-hh kernel source compiled for arm. I'll see if I can work out what the patches are that need applying to a later kernel.

Thanks
Ivor.

[3eggert]

--edit: ah found the kernel info: http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/UniversalKernel


I'm afraid the http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/UniversalKernel page is not maintained anymore, in the fooder you can read:
Immutable page (last edited 2007-09-09 07:48:07 by PadSki)

greetings

Thorsten

[F_R_I_T_Z]

Waw good news, someone still trying..
doesnt work in mine G3..
but hoope listen news from this front. i cant wait the day i can ride off wm from mine device.

Thanks..

[ivorh]

I'm afraid the http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/UniversalKernel page is not maintained anymore, in the fooder you can read:
Immutable page (last edited 2007-09-09 07:48:07 by PadSki)

Hi, yes sure I noticed that although I did successfully build the 2.6.21-hh kernel following those instructions.
I just wondered if the information was being updated anywhere else? or if anyone was already patching a more recent kernel before I spend too much time doing so myself.
Does anyone know if there are details of the individual patches in the "-hh" kernel? (the only page I found was again very outdated) or what patches are still required and which have made their way upstream?

domi007 I've dropped you a PM.

Many thanks,
Ivor.

[domi007]

In 2 days I will give you a detailed post about the connection between kernel versions and Android versions, patches etc. everythinbg in this topic

But now I am doing practicing exercises for my German Language exam, which I will try to get today and tomorrow (it is a high level exam and takes 2 days to pass) and I want to ignore everything non-German.

DOMy

[domi007]

Hello Everybody,
As I said, I am giving now a detailed post about the kernel versions and the Android:
So, for the Universal the latest kernel I know is the kernel from handhelds.org, with the version number: 2.6.21-hh20. This kernel is not Android compatible, because Android needs at least the kernel 2.6.25.
My Android version is 0.8 and I could run it on the original, not-patched handhelds.org kernel. Why? Because this version of Android is an alpha version (or beta-tester, or how do you wanna call it) and therefore it can run on every machine, and on every kernel.
But for the full Android, which has a version number of 1.0 we need the kernel 2.6.25 and above, WITH APPLIED Android patches.
What are these patches?
-First of all some specialities for Android: OpenBinder (or Binder), LowMemoryKiller (it is not mandatory, since Linux has its own) and ashmem (without this you get a segmentation fault)

-Some patches for the Android-emulation hardware-We do not need these
If somebody interests:
The Android emulator uses Qemu to emulate an Android environment. In this environment the machine, which you are emulating, called goldfish, and has an ARMv5 processor, and so on. So if you want to run the Android on a real hardware you do not need these patches.

A complete list of google's changes with very good notices can be found here:
http://www.nthcode.com/pubs/porting-android-to-a-new-device.html

So, our task is:
Try to get running a 2.6.25 kernel on the Universal, because many of Google's changes cannot be applied to our old kernel, because they are using the new, and modified API, which is included only in kernel 2.6.25 and above.
If we will have this kernel then we will be able to run any version of Android (included 1.0 and later 1.1)

Good news:
I saw some htcuniversal patches in the Linux on the Universal thread aaaand: they said: "These patches are for the kernel 2.6.26".
So I think, our task won't be very difficult, if these patches are working!

Stay tuned, and ask everything you do not understand!
DOMy

[happytomato]

Okay, right. I would really like to help this and I have some coding and linux experience. I assume I need some sort of toolchain for xScale to compile the kernel. Where can I get that?

[domi007]

Okay, right. I would really like to help this and I have some coding and linux experience. I assume I need some sort of toolchain for xScale to compile the kernel. Where can I get that?

http://www.codesourcery.com/sgpp/lite/arm/portal/release644

[F_R_I_T_Z]

Iam in to try help. ( iam not a coder) but at last to test.

I hemmber to find someone on mirc at xda or ppcgeeks that already do some work in linux/universal. iam to try find who..
I really wish to get our uni with android

[ivorh]

quick update... I've got a 2.6.25 kernel patched and built with htc updates. I'm just trying to figure out the android patches now.

[whit3boy]

so...its possible that?:|
how can I install android on my universal?:|
someone help me step by step explanation?

[domi007]

so...its possible that?:|
how can I install android on my universal?:|
someone help me step by step explanation?

As you can see on my video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYb2nZyC4nA) nothing works properly, so I don't reccommend you to try this on your phone. It wouldn't brick your PDA, but you can not do anything with it...
But, if we will be ready with a better version (for example with a working touchscreen and GSM) we will sure provide you an easy to follow guide, how to do it. ;);)

DOMy

[Tichy]

Superb, thanx for your hard work. This proves Andriod can and will run on the Uni. I look forward to a Beta for us non programing lot to test and feedback on.

[whit3boy]

As you can see on my video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYb2nZyC4nA) nothing works properly, so I don't reccommend you to try this on your phone. It wouldn't brick your PDA, but you can not do anything with it...
But, if we will be ready with a better version (for example with a working touchscreen and GSM) we will sure provide you an easy to follow guide, how to do it. ;);)

DOMy

thanx for info:)

[domi007]

Kernel status:
ivorh is currently working on our new kernel, so stay tuned, he said, that he will be ready in 2-5 days.

DOMy

[orb3000]

Kernel status:
ivorh is currently working on our new kernel, so stay tuned, he said, that he will be ready in 2-5 days.

DOMy

Great news!
I´ll be aware

Thanks a lot!

[domi007]

Kernel status (5th March, 2009):
ivorh has some problems with the kernel, which he compiled, but we are working on it.
Perhaps in one week we will find a solution.

DOMy

[orb3000]

Kernel status (5th March, 2009):
ivorh has some problems with the kernel, which he compiled, but we are working on it.
Perhaps in one week we will find a solution.

DOMy

Good to know
Keep the good work!

[Tichy]

Im really looking forward to seeing the back of Windows Mobile. Can't wait to test. Bring on the App store.

Is it in High Quality VGA? I only found out the Dream and Magic are QVGA the other day.

Tichy

[dj_in_k]

well done guys. I'm looking forward to the release version ! i'm following this thread since the moment i learned about the project. I realy hope to try it !
thanks a lot for your hard work.
really, you can count on me fot beta testing and report.
(not a programmer sorry)

[F_R_I_T_Z]

Besides this thread, you guys have another place to be updated about this?

:cool:

[hotchillypepper]

Even I like to join in with you guys. I have some linux based Embedded experience. . Can we have a summery about what we are trying to do and what is done yet.

[dreamknight]

I also have experience in embedded Linux systems, work in this area for some time. I would like to help :D

[domi007]

Hi everybody,
First of all, THANK YOU for supporting us! It was a really gooood feeling to read your comments, and posts!

Short status report:
We are currently working on the porting of the 2.6.25 kernel for the Universal. To be honest: ivorh is working on it now, because I didn't have enough time for it. If we get the .25 kernel working on the Uni, we will be able to boot Android 1.0 or even 1.1.
What do we have:
-We have a Proof-Of-Concept Presentation (kernel: 2.6.21-hh20 standard, without Android patches+Android 0.8)
-ivorh has all the Universal related patches for the kernel 2.6.25 (he will send me them soon)

What's the problem?
ivorh's toolchain is not working properly (we wonder, why?), so therefore he does a cleaning-up, and tries it again.

If nothing helps, he sends me the Universal-patches-for-kernel-2.6.25, and I will apply them and the Android patches against the stock kernel, and try to compile it.

That's it guys!
DOMy

ps: No, we don't have anything else, only this topic, and we post our updates only here.

[louyaorong]

Hi everybody,
First of all, THANK YOU for supporting us! It was a really gooood feeling to read your comments, and posts!

Short status report:
We are currently working on the porting of the 2.6.25 kernel for the Universal. To be honest: ivorh is working on it now, because I didn't have enough time for it. If we get the .25 kernel working on the Uni, we will be able to boot Android 1.0 or even 1.1.
What do we have:
-We have a Proof-Of-Concept Presentation (kernel: 2.6.21-hh20 standard, without Android patches+Android 0.8)
-ivorh has all the Universal related patches for the kernel 2.6.25 (he will send me them soon)

What's the problem?
ivorh's toolchain is not working properly (we wonder, why?), so therefore he does a cleaning-up, and tries it again.

If nothing helps, he sends me the Universal-patches-for-kernel-2.6.25, and I will apply them and the Android patches against the stock kernel, and try to compile it.

That's it guys!
DOMy

ps: No, we don't have anything else, only this topic, and we post our updates only here.
really good job!!!

[mozart]

really good job!!!

But hey guys! We dont want to rush you or anything, but we are all dying of curiosity here since domi007 last mail on ivorh's progress on 8 march.

Any news?

[domi007]

But hey guys! We dont want to rush you or anything, but we are all dying of curiosity here since domi007 last mail on ivorh's progress on 8 march.

Any news?

You are totally right, I have sent already 2 PMs for ivorh, asking him for THE kernel, but he has not answered yet.
I am sorry, but without him, and his patches we cannot jump to our next step. :(

DOMy

[DenverYao]

Great works already!
I am also a Uni owner and if any test works I can help please let me know.
Thanks again for your contribution to Uni!
I'm sure you will achieve the success! :)

[domi007]

A small report:
I worked until now on it, used these (http://folks.o-hand.com/sameo/patches/htc/) patches against the linux-2.6.25-android-1.0 kernel, but without any success.
It is because of such a stupid problem:
In every .h file is written: "include/asm", but this is a general expression, therefore before everything starts the compiler changes it for "include/asm-arm". Somehow this actually happens, but nevertheless it says: Cannot find file include/asm!"->without the -arm tag.

I am full with it now, so I am thinking of waiting for ivorh's answer (btw I add him to my WindowsLiveMessenger contacts, so if he enters, I will be able to ask him for the patches).

Tonight that was it guys.
DOMy

[orb3000]

A small report:
I worked until now on it, used these (http://folks.o-hand.com/sameo/patches/htc/) patches against the linux-2.6.25-android-1.0 kernel, but without any success.
It is because of such a stupid problem:
In every .h file is written: "include/asm", but this is a general expression, therefore before everything starts the compiler changes it for "include/asm-arm". Somehow this actually happens, but nevertheless it says: Cannot find file include/asm!"->without the -arm tag.

I am full with it now, so I am thinking of waiting for ivorh's answer (btw I add him to my WindowsLiveMessenger contacts, so if he enters, I will be able to ask him for the patches).

Tonight that was it guys.
DOMy

Keep up the good work!
You guys are making a great jobe here!
Hope to have good news soon!!:)

[ivorh]

sorry all!
I've been swamped at work at the moment and just haven't had any spare hacking time at all. I think it's probably a really simple problem with my environment - keep making dead kernels. :(
hopefully I can just figure that out and can proceed.

[domi007]

As you can read, we keep working on it. ;)

I can't write anything else, than: stay tuned! :D:D

DOMy

[DenverYao]

Hey, guys, it seems like someone have migrated Android to their PPC successfully. Just found below 2 links, 1 for Dell X51V, another for HTC Touch HD:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&hl=en&v=VM7jf-iUHYU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=related&hl=en&v=0lwDT3rDnV8

[dj_in_k]

It may be stupid but... do we need windows mobile to run android ??? does it take more place in the flash memory then ?
is there a possibility to cook an android rom like a windows one ?

[domi007]

It may be stupid but... do we need windows mobile to run android ??? does it take more place in the flash memory then ?
is there a possibility to cook an android rom like a windows one ?



In our situation it wouldn't be a good idea, because with Android you cannot use your phone (absolutely not).

But there are some works in progress, for example they are coocking (actually they say: "cocking" :D:D) an Android for the Kaiser. So if we get also so far, we will be happy to try to cook an Android ROM for the Uni ;).

DOMy

[dj_in_k]

ok ! so, in th end, there will be a possibility to shoot windows mobile ? At the very end ?

[Ruuuub]

is there a possibility to post a download link for the alpha-version of android for the universal?

[domi007]

ok ! so, in th end, there will be a possibility to shoot windows mobile ? At the very end ?

Yes, sure.

is there a possibility to post a download link for the alpha-version of android for the universal?

I will throw you a PM. ;)

DOMy

[Leptir_011]

@domi007

Can you please send me a link.
Thanks in advance.

[Hanzo_]

domi007,
I'll be glad to receive it too ...

[jsoleil]

@domi007
I would be glad if you can send me that link. Thanks

[pvanbrakel]

HI,

I was wondering, is there any progress report, etc. I was cheering to see the video on youtube. Hopefully it comes....

[rubendiamond]

Is it possible to send me the link too?
Thanks

[DJaYKaY]

Is possible to have the link for this Android-Test-Rom?
Thank's a lot

[domi007]

Hi everybody,
I saw the last 2-3 posts, and decided to write this small notice:
So, unfortunately, there is nothing new with the porting process. I couldn't get in touch with ivorh (who get the nearest to a full-Android-compatible kernel). I keep on trying, but I cannot promise you anything.

Now, we are having only a test-alpha Android, which boots from the SD card, so please, do not expect anything like an Android-ROM.
Also another note for volunteer testers: please, do not expect more, than you saw on my youtube video, because there was no development in the meantime, so you can only get the same Android as I got :(.

For the people, who asked me for the PM: I am sending them for you now.

DOMy

[RILuse]

Thanks for the link, but are a small problem, I don't have a Linux on a big brother, just on uni.. as it's possible to fill in files from Android.img on a flash card, and how to do it?... And what file system should be there... Thanks once again)) I'm a new in Linux...

[orb3000]

Hi everybody,
I saw the last 2-3 posts, and decided to write this small notice:
So, unfortunately, there is nothing new with the porting process. I couldn't get in touch with ivorh (who get the nearest to a full-Android-compatible kernel). I keep on trying, but I cannot promise you anything.

Now, we are having only a test-alpha Android, which boots from the SD card, so please, do not expect anything like an Android-ROM.
Also another note for volunteer testers: please, do not expect more, than you saw on my youtube video, because there was no development in the meantime, so you can only get the same Android as I got :(.

For the people, who asked me for the PM: I am sending them for you now.

DOMy

Thanks domi007 for your notice
Hope in the near future your great work can move forwards:)
I´ll be aware of this project

Congrats!

[pvanbrakel]

can you send the link to me as well?

Pieter

[Hanzo_]

domi007,
I'll be glad to receive it too ...
For the people, who asked me for the PM: I am sending them for you now.
I'll have it too? ;)

[domi007]

Thanks for the link, but are a small problem, I don't have a Linux on a big brother, just on uni.. as it's possible to fill in files from Android.img on a flash card, and how to do it?... And what file system should be there... Thanks once again)) I'm a new in Linux...


Because it is only a test-version I am not planning to release a normal, and easy installation guide, or without-linux-tut, as they would be completely worthless.
Later, if we get enough near to beat WM, than you will certainly get everything you need.

DOMy

[pvanbrakel]

Because it is only a test-version I am not planning to release a normal, and easy installation guide, or without-linux-tut, as they would be completely worthless.
Later, if we get enough near to beat WM, than you will certainly get everything you need.

DOMy



Thanks! iam really looking foward to drop windows.

[ostiaputa386]

i´m interested too, i´ll be following you, and hope to be a betatester

[pjc007]

i just tried one of the other linux-on-uni builds, and it's very interesting. Would love to give this a go, whether as-is now, or later in beta testing...

-pjc

[kEviN.H]

Hi everybody,


For the people, who asked me for the PM: I am sending them for you now.

DOMy

can you send the link to me as well?
Thank's a lot!

[blackSVK]

pls send me link too

[DangeriN]

Please Send me link for testing

[eaglo]

please send me your link too!!

[domi007]

All PMs have been sent :)


Status:
Vegetating :(

[grlayouts]

can u send me a link

[slaptas1]

Please send link for me ;)

[damir-bosna]

can u send me the link too

[satimsa]

Hi everybody,
I saw the last 2-3 posts, and decided to write this small notice:
So, unfortunately, there is nothing new with the porting process. I couldn't get in touch with ivorh (who get the nearest to a full-Android-compatible kernel). I keep on trying, but I cannot promise you anything.

Now, we are having only a test-alpha Android, which boots from the SD card, so please, do not expect anything like an Android-ROM.
Also another note for volunteer testers: please, do not expect more, than you saw on my youtube video, because there was no development in the meantime, so you can only get the same Android as I got :(.

For the people, who asked me for the PM: I am sending them for you now.

DOMy

Please send link for me too

[Ersill]

Any news? a friend of mine is using the (about) 1.2 version on his TytnII.
Could I use the same ROM? Have you got bootloader and ROM for me?
10x

[errhec]

Hi
Could you send it link to me ?
Also where can I find the htcuniversal_defconfig file on the net?


Thank you

[domi007]

Hi
Could you send it link to me ?
Also where can I find the htcuniversal_defconfig file on the net?


Thank you

You just have to use Google to find it, with the keyword:
"htcuniversal_defconfig"

For example here is a direct link to it. (http://briosix.org/tsdogs/defconfigman/htcuniversal_defconfig)

[vester]

nice job !!!:eek::eek::eek:

[l2tp]

hi, i want to test it, pm me please! :)

[orb3000]

You just have to use Google to find it, with the keyword:
"htcuniversal_defconfig"

For example here is a direct link to it. (http://briosix.org/tsdogs/defconfigman/htcuniversal_defconfig)

hi, i want to test it, pm me please! :)

Have you read the previous page?:eek:

[dreamtheater39]

Any luck on this guys? It looks interesting and definitely love to have android running on my uni :)

cheers

[domi007]

Hi everybody,
A small report:
I am currently very busy, but ASAP I will do my best to install OpenEmbedded in a virtual Linux PC, and try to get the latest kernel for the Uni.

I heard, that there is a new development version of the kernel in the OE repositories..so I will try to find and compile it.


DOMy

ps: of course I will send out the PMs in 1-2 days

[domi007]

Have you read the previous page?:eek:

Actually there is small misunderstand:
The google link is to the file htcuniversal_defconfig

The Android files aren't on the net, only I can provide them through PMs....


DOMy

[orb3000]

Actually there is small misunderstand:
The google link is to the file htcuniversal_defconfig

The Android files aren't on the net, only I can provide them through PMs....


DOMy

Oops
My apologies for that
keep up the good work!

[oofol]

In my opinion the best thing to do would be tomake a totay new kernell 2.6.25. I know it's quite a big problem - it is one for my selve - but it would give the best effects...
I hope there is some one who coud do it for us...

I think I could do tests of the Android in the future without problems - hope to have something to test....

[domi007]

Interesting News:

Yesterday finally I could connect to the #htc-linux IRC channel, and could talk with some people "from the inside" :-).

I got an info, that a very new, 2.6.31 kernel will be reelased soon, AND perhaps there is a possibility to test a better WiFi-driver.

I have no release dates, no concrete information, but I hope!

DOMy

ps: check out http://linuxtogo.org
Information about the new kernel will be published there..

[blackSVK]

HI.
Any news?

[domi007]

I got a compiled kernel from the internet, it seems, that it is a 2.6.22 or .23. Perhaps it will be enough for Android, I don't know, but I hope.

Personally I compiled a 2.6.26 kernel, but it doesn't boot, so I have to work on it some more.

Stay tuned, in the "Linux on Universal" topic I got some very good information, and I also chatting in the #htc-linux IRC channel. So hopefully I will be able to present you a better Android for the Uni.


DOMy

[orb3000]

I got a compiled kernel from the internet, it seems, that it is a 2.6.22 or .23. Perhaps it will be enough for Android, I don't know, but I hope.

Personally I compiled a 2.6.26 kernel, but it doesn't boot, so I have to work on it some more.

Stay tuned, in the "Linux on Universal" topic I got some very good information, and I also chatting in the #htc-linux IRC channel. So hopefully I will be able to present you a better Android for the Uni.


DOMy

Thanks a lot mate!
I´ll be aware of your news
Great work!

[domi007]

SLD and I have united our forces, so now both of us work on this project. Hopefully we will have success (two Hungarians find always a way :D;)).

Yours,
DOMy

[scholbert]

Hi there!

SLD and I have united our forces, so now both of us work on this project. Hopefully we will have success (two Hungarians find always a way :D;)).

Don't know if you knew already, but there's some guy who ported Android to Zaurus devices. Basically these gadgets share some basics with the Universal.
May have a look here:
http://www.omegamoon.com/blog/static.php?page=ZaurusAndroid

All the best for your project!

scholbert

[TallPaul86]

Hi there - long time reader!

I'm certainly interested in running an Android OS/ROM on my O2 XDA Exec however after reading this (lengthy!) thread im pretty sure this has not been asked hopefully!

Will this require my Uni to be upgraded to 128Mb RAM Upgrade or will this run ok on the stock 64mb RAM?

[domi007]

Hi there - long time reader!

I'm certainly interested in running an Android OS/ROM on my O2 XDA Exec however after reading this (lengthy!) thread im pretty sure this has not been asked hopefully!

Will this require my Uni to be upgraded to 128Mb RAM Upgrade or will this run ok on the stock 64mb RAM?

Actually for Android Google reccommends 128MB RAM, but our Linux kernel can only handle 64 MB yet. So don't worry, 64 MB will be enough. ;)

DOMy

[orb3000]

Good to know this!:D

Hope soon you can bring us good news!
Thanks,

[3eggert]

Actually for Android Google reccommends 128MB RAM, but our Linux kernel can only handle 64 MB yet. So don't worry, 64 MB will be enough. ;)

DOMy

Hi, generally there is a linux kernel for the uni, which supports 128M, only a few lines in the power management have to be adjusted to the new address space.

greetings

Thorsten

[domi007]

Hi, generally there is a linux kernel for the uni, which supports 128M, only a few lines in the power management have to be adjusted to the new address space.

greetings

Thorsten

I know, but this kernel is only version 2.6.21 which is absolutely worthless for Android porting. First of all we need a newer kernel, and it seems this new kernel will only support 64 MB of RAM. Perhaps later we will be able to release a better and more optimized kernel for the Uni, but now there is no hope for 128 MB.
SLD is on holiday now, therefore there is still no activity, but he will come back in 1-2 weeks.

DOMy

[phazzi]

any news?
please can send me the link of last zImage ?

thanks!

[r0ck40k]

can you send me the last build too? Because i want to try it =)

[domi007]

I get home right now, but I got an e-mail from SLD, and it seems he had some very interesting experiences during my holiday.

I hope we will be able to announce sooner or later success (maybe end of summer).

DOMy

[domi007]

Hi everyone,

We are working on our kernel day and night, and it seems, that we only need to take one more step to finish with the kernel. Of course this is the hardest step.

Current problem:
We have included all Universal and Universal-related drivers into the 2.6.26-rc4 kernel. But the problem is: it doesn't boot....

We have no idea, why not, perhaps something is missing (we thought we have included everything), we have to find out what.

DOMy

[orb3000]

Thanks for keeping us updated!
Hope you can go ahead with this fantastic project!

Cheers,

[ostiaputa386]

thanks for the hard work!!!

[tkf]

Great Work. Maybe it will be better if firstly include only main drivers and continue testing and adding new, so it will be easier to find error.

[BLRplex]

In english:
Sorry, i can't find a link to download last (or once exists) Android. Can anybody post a link here or in PM? I was looked all pages but don't find a link...

In my own (russian) language:
Извините, я не могу найти ссылку на скачку последнего (или существующего) андроида. Может кто-нибудь дать ссылку или отослать ее в ПМ? Просмотрел все страницы и ничего не нашел...

[domi007]

Great Work. Maybe it will be better if firstly include only main drivers and continue testing and adding new, so it will be easier to find error.

We are doing it right now, but thank you! ;)

DOMy

[gquipster]

Hi,

Wanted to thank all of you working on this for your efforts.

Android might tempt me back to using the Universal again having abandonded it for a seperate phone and blackberry.

I'm a Perl developer by trade so can't help with Kernel development, but wanted to let you know that all of us on this forum appreciate your tireless pursuit of this.

Regards

[bimbim]

Hi,

I have been a regular visitor on this site, have only been reading so far but I have to join the others in encouraging you guys.

Great job so far, keep it up, I'm really interested in the progress!

...and I'm particularly happy that a fellow Hungarian is doing such a great job! ;)

[domi007]

We are working on it as hard as we can, but SLD has another project to do, therefore the kernel development has been slowed down.

But, don't worry, we are trying to do our best, so perhaps you will get a special Christmas present from us :eek: ;);)

DOMy & SLD

[orb3000]

so perhaps you will get a special Christmas present from us :eek: ;);)

DOMy & SLD

Thanks!
That would be great:D

[dj_in_k]

that's a great news !!! in french: j'kiffe les mecs !!!

[hplos]

is there any news about android on a universal? Is there a newer version jet thats running more propperly?

[domi007]

is there any news about android on a universal? Is there a newer version jet thats running more propperly?

Actually I am taking part in a student exchange program, therefore I am in the USA right now. But we are still working on the project with SLD, but seems that there must be something we don't know, and therefore the new kernel cannot boot. I mean we unchecked everything not important, and compiled 2 kernels: a .21 and a .22. The .21 is able to boot with this small amount of drivers, but the .22 isn't. And we have no idea what's the big difference between them that makes things so hard.

DOMy

[nontrivial]

I wish I could help with the kernel issue to speed things up but unfortunately that's beyond me. However, once you have something to test I would be happy to help.

James

[raid996]

I can only say that u rock domy.
Anyway I'm gonna save me some little money and buy a Universal, hoping i'll be of some help in testing the whole thing. I'm sure you'll get through...!!!
Keep up the good work!

R.

[blackSVK]

hi, any news?

[orb3000]

We are working on it as hard as we can, but SLD has another project to do, therefore the kernel development has been slowed down.

But, don't worry, we are trying to do our best, so perhaps you will get a special Christmas present from us :eek: ;);)

DOMy & SLD

hi, any news?

That is the news

[domi007]

Hey guys,
Just a small update: we are working now as hard as we can, so keep your eyes open, I think that the success isn't so far anymore.

Also good news that we have a new group member, joined just 2 days ago, please say HELLO and WELCOME! to disintegration76!

Now we are working as a team like this:
domi007-Group Leader, starter of the project, coordinating and testing, forum posts :)
SLD-first member, developer & tester
disintegration76-second member, developer and tester

I hope sometime I will be able to set up a homepage for this project.

DOMy

[xiyan2127]

They Laughed at the Man when he first discovered the penicilin!!!:D

[domi007]

They Laughed at the Man when he first discovered the penicilin!!!:D

:p:p

Both team members have disappeared, I hope I can get them back to work on this project. :D:D:D:D

[proxxyfoxxy]

Can you send me a link too, for test .. thanks in advance :):)

[Matieu66]

Hey there !
I've been following your project for some time, and just registered to say HELLO to didintegration, Domi and SLD !

And thanks a lot for your great work (that must be :) ) !

[Matieu66]

Hey there !
I've been following your project for some time, and just registered to say HELLO to disintegration, Domi and SLD !

And thanks a lot for your great work (that must be :) ) !

[disintegration76]

Thank you all for the welcome!
and, of course, i did not disappear! :D but ubuntu gave me a lot of problems in the last days.
However it seems that now my pc is up and running again!

[Tichy]

I have managed to borrow a polaris device and have been testing Android on that, I have to admit that I'm very much looking forward to Android working on the Uni. I have much faith in your abilities and am keen to alpha/beta test any builds if needed.

I have access to 4 or 5 64MB Uni's via work (old business phones) to try software on.

Regards,
Tichy

[domi007]

I have managed to borrow a polaris device and have been testing Android on that, I have to admit that I'm very much looking forward to Android working on the Uni. I have much faith in your abilities and am keen to alpha/beta test any builds if needed.

I have access to 4 or 5 64MB Uni's via work (old business phones) to try software on.

Regards,
Tichy

Hello, and welcome,
First of all, thank you very much for your support, and second of all thank you again for putting together the only usable Linux solution to the uni, the Titchy Mobile (was that you? I am not sure, i only know, that some guy from the UK did it :o:o)

DOMy

[Tichy]

Gosh, I wish I were... sorry to disapoint you.