tytn 2 on O2

[gospelflyer]

Hi,
I have seen a couple of threads of people enquiring about the Tytn2 on O2 network. "Aparrently" O2 are releasing their version of the Tytn2 the XDA Steller on the 26th November.
Has anyone heard ant different.
Cheers

[jftilbury]

My man at O2 Corporate has told me the Stallar will be released on the 19th of November, but the shops don't seem to know that yet.

[darklondon]

I was hopeless, then decided to upgrade to Nokia E90 a week ago.
sigh...

[Steve-C]

I'm sure they had release dates in September and October that went by without a result! Still
coolsmartphone.com (http://www.coolsmartphone.com/news3629.html)

modaco (http://www.modaco.com/content/HTC-Kaiser-Kaiser-MoDaCo-com/261676/XDA-Stellar/#entry857068)

And a picture thanks to 4winmobile.com (http://www.4winmobile.com/forums/4wm-news/12893-o2-xda-stellar-review-coming-soon.html)

http://www.4winmobile.com/tg/Xda_Stellar/Thumb/DSCF0415.jpg

Actually, seem to be a lot of pics if you look through the directory listings Here (http://www.4winmobile.com/tg/Xda_Stellar/)

Cheers

Steve

[inthemicz]

Now on 02's site coming soon.....
http://shop.o2.co.uk/ComingSoon

[mattwong2120]

it's called the stella?!
all the while i thought it's called the stellar!

[roks]

I gave up...heard so many dates........now the o2 website says december 2007.

Also on the website, the title is Stella and the writing below says Stellar...which is it?

[Steve-C]

I gave up too and bought a BT GPS receiver for my HTC Universal. I was really only looking to this device for the integrated GPS and didn't want to loose the keyboard of the Uni by going to another device without. Now I have that I really don't know if I'll bother upgrading unless O2 offer me a really good deal!

I hope it is the Stellar though as if it's the Stella it'll probably be "reasuringly expensive" :) :p

Until it's on the available phones list, I'm not holding my breath...

[StellaDel]

it's called the stella?!
all the while i thought it's called the stellar!

There's only one Stella and it comes from Belgium and it's nice and refreshing (especially after ten pints) :)

Who would buy a Tytn 2 on O2 in the UK, the phone has been designed for high speed comms, which O2 don't have and when they do have it they charge a fortune for it with there excessive data charges. :mad:

[roks]

Phoned the 0800 number on the xda site and they have them in stock now....on business tariffs though....

Called the normal user number, they say its due this week and their systems have not been updated yet, will take 48hrs or so.

[churchwa]

Got mine ordered, should be with me tomorrow apparently, but i have a feeling it wont be (dont ask me why)

Got it free on a £36 12 month contract
800 mins
1000 texts

Chuffed

[mattwong2120]

I'm an upgrade customer and this is what they gave me

600 mins
1000 text
unilimted o2 to o2 calls
18 month contract

the tarrif is 20 quid
i added premium insurance for 7.50 quid
i added web bolt on for 7.50 quid
and they are willing to throw in a 2gb memory card for an extra 10 quid

oh, and i get the phone for free...

happy man, i am

[jcwacky]

I called earlier and the best they could offer me was:

18 month
£90 for Phone
£35/month
600mins
300texts

I told them I'd think about it.

Just called orange and they offered me:

18month
FREE phone
£30/month
300mins
400texts

Did you guy's speak to the retention department and/or ask to leave so you could get those deals?

[jcwacky]

Just my luck! O2's customer service systems are now down and I can't upgrade!!

1 lady told me they prob won't be fixed till 2mo, I called immediately and a guy told me they reckon it would be fixed by 7pm!

I want to order my Stellar! It's not fair! :(

[churchwa]

Good deal, but i will never get an 18 month contract. They were offering me everything to get me to jump to an 18 month

[vicks]

any one got co-pilot with their order

[churchwa]

Funny, they never mentioned it when i placed my order.

[jcwacky]

Yay! Their systems came back up and I managed to get the following:

18month
FREE phone
£30/month
600mins
1000texts

Just saved myself £180!!

I wasn't keen on the 18 month either, but because I am an O2 Select customer I can upgrade after 15 months, not too bad.

I asked O2 a couple of times about CoPilot but was told that it is not included with this phone. Only with the Orbit. Still considering using the money I just saved to purchase it tho, if only there was a demo.

[roks]

Got mine ordered, should be with me tomorrow apparently, but i have a feeling it wont be (dont ask me why)

Got it free on a £36 12 month contract
800 mins
1000 texts

Chuffed

Thats a damn good deal....hey I'm on a upgrade, my current tariff is 800min£40/m 'Select Customer' what ever that is.... do you think they will give me free Stellar?

[jcwacky]

do you think they will give me free Stellar?
Not sure if they'd give it to you free to start with, but tell them Orange will give you it for free and they will almost certainly change their minds.

[eyebeebe]

Did you guys, who have ordered the Stellar order an upgrade from retentions? They have just told me that it still hasn't been launched!

[churchwa]

Got it from the Select customer retentions, i don't know about the regular O2 retentions. They all run on different systems.

[roks]

Got it from the Select customer retentions, i don't know about the regular O2 retentions. They all run on different systems.

Hi,

How much did you pay for the stellar? if free, what tariff are you on.

Thanks

[churchwa]

Roks,
Have a look on page 2

[roks]

Roks,
Have a look on page 2

Sorry dude, shoould have looked.....

[HPJ]

FYI ordered my Stellar yesterday at 16:30.

Arrived 30 mins ago, very impressed with that service.

Also paid nothing for it as on o2 select and my call volume is (too) high.

Charging now....can't wait to test....

HPJ

[churchwa]

Cant wait, we have not even had the post here in central London and it is nearly Midday.

Hope it comes today!

[jcwacky]

Due to O2's system going down I only managed to order it at about 7.30pm yday, so not expecting it till 2mo.

HPJ: When did you recieve the e-mail saying it had been dispatched?

eyebeebe: Yeh, Spoke to normal Select O2 upgrade person and told them about Orange plan, she said she couldn't do anything for me but would pass me over to retentions who then bettered the plan for me.

I'm thinking now tho that I would have preferred less mins and texts for less per month, prob too late to try and change that now tho.

Bring on tomorrow!

[paulnorth]

I've just ordered the XDA Stellar. O2 retentions have offered me (after threatening to move to t-mobile):
--------------
Free Phone
600 mins
1000 texts
Unlimited O2 calls

For £35 / month
18 month contract
--------------

Normal spend about £35
Customer for about 3 years
O2 select for 2 years

All in all i'm very happy with the deal. Cant wait for it to arrive!

Paul

[churchwa]

Got mine at about 3pm, it is so much faster than the Trion, Just wondering why they have left half the theme from HTC on it and they have removed the comms button. Also the camera has no flash :(

[churchwa]

Does anyone know how to get the HTC theme (black) on the device.
Can i just use the one from my trion?

EDIT: yes you can use the old theme.

Anyone know where/what the latest HTC home is?

[eyebeebe]

I finally got mine sorted through retentions at half 4.

After lots of arguing about the offer I got a month ago not being valid anymore, I got the following deal:

12 Month contract
500 mins per month
100 texts
Unlimited Blackberry and Web browsing

£30 per month
Free Phone

Co-Pilot isn't an option yet but I think I might treat myself to it when it comes out. The deal is exactly the same as I have at the moment but £15 a month cheaper!

Only problem is they had my old address when I ordered and I've had to cancel it and will be reordering it tomorrow. If it's already gone to the courier I may have to wait til the middle of next week before it gets back to O2 and they get a new one sent out to me :(

[Hyins]

O2 Xda Stellar :D

http://shop.o2.co.uk/phone/O2/Xda_Stellar

[ScottCowan]

I got mine delivered at lunchtime yeterday

-theres a little o2 app at the bottom of the today screen to kill processes
-theres no htc home screen
-it includes a screen protector
-it includes a miniusb-esk to 1/8" headphone connector with a controller for volume up, down, next, prev, pickup,hangup,play/pause which talks to the audio manager (trying to get that to work with pocket player). It really quick too
-theres an annoying open and close sound which has its own settings menu item called keyboard sliding sound

**The battery is in the leather holdster***

[HPJ]

jcwacky: got a few emails in the evening after ordering...including the email with the parcel tracking link on it.

I haven't done too much testing yet but in general the phone seems great.

I do have one question however, which I have a feeling will, in hindsight, be a very stupid thing to ask, but where the hell is the TouchFlo app?? I can't find it anywhere!!! I can only find a setting in Settings>system. Is it on the CDs to be installed? I haven't checked them out yet....

EDIT: yes just as I thought a very dumb question. I worked it out...there is no 'app' (the cube), you can just scroll up down left right with your finger...now, to find that cube.

HPJ

[eyebeebe]

I finally got mine sorted through retentions at half 4.

After lots of arguing about the offer I got a month ago not being valid anymore, I got the following deal:

12 Month contract
500 mins per month
100 texts
Unlimited Blackberry and Web browsing

£30 per month
Free Phone

Co-Pilot isn't an option yet but I think I might treat myself to it when it comes out. The deal is exactly the same as I have at the moment but £15 a month cheaper!

Only problem is they had my old address when I ordered and I've had to cancel it and will be reordering it tomorrow. If it's already gone to the courier I may have to wait til the middle of next week before it gets back to O2 and they get a new one sent out to me :(

The phone will be with me tomorrow, which is good, as I've missed the TyTn II I gave back to Orange.

Scott: It sounds like the package is identical to the Orange one, but with a different sleeve. Even as far as not being able to find the battery!

HPJ: I think you'll need to install a new ROM like Dutty's if you want the cube etc to work. Have a look at the upgrading forum, but don't forget to use HPL first!

EDIT: When putting on the screen protector make sure that it aligns perfectly with the (in Potrait mode) right hand and upper edges of the screen. It's about 2mm too small for the screen and if you don't have it right against those edges it can be a bit tricky to use the scroll bars with the stylus, as I found out the hard way.

[duncstar]

just ordered mine thru the o2 upgrade line:D should be with me tomorrow:D
cant wait...:D

[jcwacky]

Mine arrived about an hour ago! :)

Very nice looking device I must say! Fast too!

My only niggles are the keyboard and scroll wheel. I've just come straight from a Hermes and the Kaiser keyboard does not seem as good, sometimes you get hardly any tactical feedback from a button causing you press it again thinking you missed it only to have pressed it twice. It's just not click enough. And the space bar seems like it's 2 buttons joined together, as you can get 2 clicks from it if you press it in the middle, the Hermes didn't do that and it's a bit off putting (altho it doesn't seem to enter 2 space characters). Also the jog wheel seems to scrape the site as you are scrolling it only at a certain point.

Hopefully these issues are just because it is new and I need to wear it in, but currently it does not seem as well made as the hermes.

Shame O2 didn't keep HTC Home, gonna need to find that sometime too.

All in all tho, I am impressed!!!

[eyebeebe]

Shame O2 didn't keep HTC Home, gonna need to find that sometime too.

With the Orange one I had if you went into settings>today screen>second tab you could untick the 'Orange' item and tick HTC home and it would bring up the Home screen. Does that not work with the Stellar?

[churchwa]

HTC home for the Hermes work without a hitch. I am using it now with the black HTC theme.

Works a treat

Looking forward to WM 6.1 ;)

[pczdogxx]

Mine arrived about an hour ago! :)

Very nice looking device I must say! Fast too!

My only niggles are the keyboard and scroll wheel. I've just come straight from a Hermes and the Kaiser keyboard does not seem as good, sometimes you get hardly any tactical feedback from a button causing you press it again thinking you missed it only to have pressed it twice. It's just not click enough. And the space bar seems like it's 2 buttons joined together, as you can get 2 clicks from it if you press it in the middle, the Hermes didn't do that and it's a bit off putting (altho it doesn't seem to enter 2 space characters). Also the jog wheel seems to scrape the site as you are scrolling it only at a certain point.

Hopefully these issues are just because it is new and I need to wear it in, but currently it does not seem as well made as the hermes.

Shame O2 didn't keep HTC Home, gonna need to find that sometime too.

All in all tho, I am impressed!!!


Does the phone unlocked?

[jcwacky]

I'm sorry, I don't get what you mean, unlocked from what? SIM unlocked?

[adthor]

Is the phone SIM locked, or will it work with any network SIM card?

[jcwacky]

I think all XDAs are not SIM locked (I def read that somewhere), however I don't have another sim to test this out on.

[roks]

Anyone know how long it takes for returned phones to go through o2's system?

I sent back my Nokia n95 last friday.....phoned today to order Stellar, they say its not showing on their system as being returned.. :(

[japher]

I'm on O2 and was intending to switch to T-Mobile to get a TyTN II. If O2 are now shipping these, maybe I don't need to switch.

I'm interested to know what kind of data deals you guys are getting. T-Mobile web & walk has unlimited, HSDPA speed data. O2 site doesn't seem to mention anything about data when looking at their tariff details.

Getting this phone without unlimited data just doesn't appeal :D

[jcwacky]

Are you sure you have unlimited with T-mobile? Looking in the web & walk small print it looks like the limits range from 1GB to 10GB depending on your tariff.

With O2, you have a couple of data options:
- £7.50/month gives you 200MB
- £30/month gives you 3GB + a data card

Funnily enough O2 calls those plans 'unlimited' aswell!

More info here: http://www.o2.co.uk/mobilestariffs/tariffs/consumerdatabolton

[churchwa]

I get HSDPA on O2 everywhere is go, seems to be much better than their 3G service as fas as speed goes.

[pczdogxx]

I think all XDAs are not SIM locked (I def read that somewhere), however I don't have another sim to test this out on.

Anyone can advise whether O2 TyTn2 is SIM locked or unlocked?

[japher]

Funnily enough O2 calls those plans 'unlimited' aswell!

Unlimited browsing! (with a 200MB fair usage policy)

LOL

I think the T-Mobile deal is a lot more reasonable. Although I have heard that they block services like YouTube and other streaming radio/tv unless you're on a 'plus' package. Do O2 do the same?

[Xx spooks xX]

Seriously thinking of upgrading to the Steller in a few days but never really got on with the XDA Mini S with its bulk and software glitches so returned to a normal phone and seperate PDA, so im kind of unsure if I will get on with it.
Played around with the t mobile version and like it with the HTC home etc and cannot believe O2 have removed this. Would I be able to get this function enabled? Pretty niave about Rom's and CAB's really.
Comparing T-mobile and O2 at the moment as I may end up taking T-mobile's offer of free phone on flext 35 rather than O2 saying it will cost me £130. Geez its a minefield really.
How are you guys that have it on O2 finding it so far?

[japher]

If you're going to go with T-Mobile, check out www.quidco.com for £40 caskback.

I've also just noticed that Vodafone are now offering this phone:
http://www.vodafonebusinessshop.co.uk/Details-Phone-Vodafone-v1615-2964.html

Anyone got a Vodafone Kaiser? I can't find any mention on their site about the data packages available, even though I read a while back that they were the first to get HSDPA.

[Steve-C]

Well just ordered mine through O2 Select.

£35 a month tariff
600 mins, 1000 texts, free calls Sat, Sun and Mon to all networks
Free phone
and Free 2gb memory card.

Wouldn't budge on the Co-pilot software tho. Not really bothered as I have a stand alone Sat-Nav which I prefer, the Stellar is mainly for running other GPS software that the Sat-Nav can't help with, and realistically, MS Pocket Streets or Google should suffice.

All in all, well pleased with the deal and I didn't even have to fight, they offered the phone free from the off, and when I mentioned the card, they gave that free too!

Overall really pleased with the experience!

The post delivery, first charge time is going to be torture!

[Xx spooks xX]

Well ordered mine with O2 today after a brief call got what I consider a good deal
£35 tarrif
1200 mins (unlimited to any 02)
500 texts
£35 refund onto my bill ......... god knows
and most importantly free phone

As Steve said above gonna be a long wait to recieve and charge, need to get a memory card and sort out Navigation as well as find out if I can get HTC home installed on this

[pczdogxx]

Well ordered mine with O2 today after a brief call got what I consider a good deal
£35 tarrif
1200 mins (unlimited to any 02)
500 texts
£35 refund onto my bill ......... god knows
and most importantly free phone

As Steve said above gonna be a long wait to recieve and charge, need to get a memory card and sort out Navigation as well as find out if I can get HTC home installed on this

12 or 24 months contract? and SIM unlocked?

[roks]

Ordered on Monday, got told that I will receive it on Wednesday, 5th.

Yesterday afternoon I got a text msg saying they are out of stock...huh? New stock due on the 6th.

Well pissed off, travelling on the 12th dec. so I thought I'd have few days to play around with the stellar and get used to it before I take it with me.

Has anyone else been told their out of stock? I hope I get it before the weekend.....

[Steve-C]

Yep mines out of stock too. Got the text message, but I'd already called O2 by that point and was told the same thing, new stock on the 6th, could take 3-5 days from then though.

That said, I've been onto the O2 website and used the order tracking section and it shows as being dispatched at 6am this morning. DHL's site confirms that they have picked up a package just before 9. So it looks like there are stocks in and delivery is progressing! Just have to wait and see now what turns up tomorrow as once DHL have it, the delivery should be next day...when I said the first charge wait was going to be torture, I didn't realise the overnight delivery would be too!

[roks]

Steve, can you give ma link to the order tracking pls.
Thanks


EDIT: Its Ok, I've got. thanks

[eyebeebe]

My replacement was despatched today for delivery tomorrow.

[deanmitch79]

HTC home for the Hermes work without a hitch. I am using it now with the black HTC theme.

Works a treat

Looking forward to WM 6.1 ;)


Where can i find the HTC Home Plugin and black HTC Theme?

[ipaqowner]

I'd like them as well.

[Xx spooks xX]

12 or 24 months contract? and SIM unlocked?

18 month unfortunately, was told they had discounted a £50 tarrif for me. Unsure if its sim unlocked as still waiting on the phone to arrive, outa stock :(

[amygdalo]

have a look here:

http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-htc-home-plugin-v1-0.html

you can get both and they are free too!!!

[Steve-C]

Thankyou!

DHL says my phone is on a van somewhere, this waiting is torture!

[ipaqowner]

have a look here:

http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-htc-home-plugin-v1-0.html

you can get both and they are free too!!!

Many thanks, much appreciated.

John.

[Steve-C]

It's here! It's gorgeous! I'm on into hiding for the rest of the week to play now... :-)

[qwerty1gr]

18 month unfortunately, was told they had discounted a £50 tarrif for me. Unsure if its sim unlocked as still waiting on the phone to arrive, outa stock :(

it is sim-unlocked! I use it with a T-Mob sim (better internet rates)

[roks]

Its been delivered today......Cant wait till I get home tonight :) ....I hope I am not dissaponted as i think I have set too a high.

lot of pple are having issues....hope HTC release a update rom or something.

[ipaqowner]

lot of pple are having issues....hope HTC release a update rom or something.

What sort of issues...my XDA Stellar does everything it's supposed to :confused:

[Steve-C]

Well, 24 hours of ownership later and I'm pleased enough with the device. Everything runs quick, no hangs. Pleased with the GPS performance. Not so sure about the free screen protector, it seems to interfer with the screen. That may be coming off soon.

Not 100% sure I prefer it over my old XDA Executive. I think if you could put the guts of the Steller inside the Executive casing, keeping the screen, keyboard and IR of the Exec it would be perfect.

The "free" case that comes with seems good enough for a freebee, and I'm rather impressed with the handsfree since it allows you to plug the Stellar into a car stereo so it functions as an MP3 player. Don't think any other UK network gives you that part. Now to continue browsing the forums for tweaks!

[2108]

Well, 24 hours of ownership later and I'm pleased enough with the device. Everything runs quick, no hangs. Pleased with the GPS performance. Not so sure about the free screen protector, it seems to interfer with the screen. That may be coming off soon.

Not 100% sure I prefer it over my old XDA Executive. I think if you could put the guts of the Steller inside the Executive casing, keeping the screen, keyboard and IR of the Exec it would be perfect.

The "free" case that comes with seems good enough for a freebee, and I'm rather impressed with the handsfree since it allows you to plug the Stellar into a car stereo so it functions as an MP3 player. Don't think any other UK network gives you that part. Now to continue browsing the forums for tweaks!

Hi Steve, i too have had my O2 stellar for 24 hours now, but I havent been able to work the GPS yet, all I get is some program called QuickGPS which only gives me the option to download something, after the download completes thats just about it - dosent do anything else :( I believe the O2 stellar does not come packed with the tomtom taster CD like the HTC one. Could i ask how you managed to get your GPS working? The help would be much appreciated.

Thanks :)

[Steve-C]

I have a couple of programs that take GPS info. Microsofts Pocket Streets, Google Maps, Memory Map and a program called Crux View (the last one only shows GPS info, doesn't actually work as a Sat Nav.)

If you go into Start > Settings > System and select external GPS, firstly I set the GPS program port to COM5, then went into Access Tab and selected "Manage GPS automatically". Then in the GPS settings for the above programs I set them to look for a GPS device on COM5. Looks like there isn't any way to actually power on the GPS (no point, there isn't any programs that the Stellar ships with), it just comes on automatically when a program demands it. Quite clever really, I'm happy that it does this, though it could have been nice to have this better explained in the manual. The GPS bit in the manual is just about useless and I only found this out after putting Crux View on there andplaying about to see if I was getting NMEA data fed into it.

I've attached the Crux View program, it's a demo version, but useful for checking the thing is working! Just rename it to Crux_View.exe and copy the file to somewhere on your device. No installation needed!

Steve

[pczdogxx]

Any update on O2 Stella Sim Unlock?

[ipaqowner]

Any update on O2 Stella Sim Unlock?

It's the O2 XDA Stellar
Who told you it was sim-locked?