OH MY GOD ! Line 2 support in WM6 Pro

[rjefferis]

Wow, i just upgraded my OS to Dutty's final rom, leaving my radio rom as the standard Orange one. And, hang on, what is that 1 up the top next to the G.
Go into the phone app, hold down # and hey presto. Line 2. WOW

This is the first ever phone/os combo that has line 2 support on a pocket pc phone. Has been supported from day 1 in smartphones but not in the pocket pc, why, i dont know, but now it is. Hurrah.

This probly doesnt apply to most people on here but anyone else with line 2 then get stuck in.

Cheers

rob.

[victoradjei]

rjefferis post a screen shot.

[rjefferis]

here you go

[Penske MB]

it is hard to find a dual SIM card....

[jhego]

Hmm, nothing happens when i hold #:(

[xmoo]

Could you give us your radio number :S
I don't have this option and I got duttyroy's final touch flo rom.
And the holding # in phone did not help :S

[raymondu999]

not a dual simcard, guys... single but with 2 lines.

[y2whisper]

yeah rogers has a feature like this as well, but not sure how/if it works with the kaiser

[rjefferis]

yeah it is just a single sim card with 2 different phone numbers.

You can recieve calls on both numbers and it tells you which line it comes in on.

You can also make calls on both numbers by holding # to select which line you want it to go out on.

Orange have offered it as a feature for years, Tmobile in the UK used to as well back in the One2One days, might still do. That is where i got mine from. I was on a One2One precept time plan which came with a priority line free. Back then all the second line could do is recieve calls. It was so you could divert all your calls to voicemail if you were in a meeting or something, but the priority line would still ring through.
When i moved to Orange i got them to match my plan and they did and gave me my line 2. Then when virgin mobile started up i got Orange to put my second line onto that timeplan pricematch so i can keep it forever and not pay any line rental on it, just the call cost. Have had it for years and years. Always wondered why it wasnt supported on Pocket PC's when it was on smartphones.

So there you go, that is the story of my second line.

[Nikumba]

I think it will only work if your have Orange Line2 SIM

[akash_84]

As mentioned, it is one single simcard with two lines/contracts
Orange currently do this and as far as I know, are the only ones that do it - It is in theory two numbers, two contracts (two lines)

[FloatingFatMan]

As mentioned, it is one single simcard with two lines/contracts
Orange currently do this and as far as I know, are the only ones that do it - It is in theory two numbers, two contracts (two lines)


No it's not. It's 2 lines, ONE contract, ONE number. You can put a call on hold and make/receive another call.

[rjefferis]

Well not unless they do 2 different sorts, but mine is as stated by akash_84. It is 2 different numbers and 2 different contracts. Obviously under the same account though. When you get your bill though you get 2 bills as if it were a second phone.

[kyphur]

No it's not. It's 2 lines, ONE contract, ONE number. You can put a call on hold and make/receive another call.

I can do that with 1 line, it's called "Call Waiting" & "Conference" functions.

Our Brit Friends are talking about something totally different. When I worked a Motorola (12 years ago) they had the ability to offer this to their employees but I've never heard of a US Carrier offering such a feature.

Basically is is like having 2 lines at your home or business. They function a two seperate lines. If you silence the first line line2 still rings.

[PsychodelEKS]

This feature is called ALS (automatic line switching) it is a part of GSM standart, but though not all operators support it. It is like "software dual-sim". You actually have two numbers on one sim and can have two different contracts. One for talking and one, with cheaper traffic, for surfing for example.
I do not know if it is actually working on Kaiser, as I do not use it, but though I have this annoying "1" sign in my taskbar =( An I do not know how to get rid of it.

[Blackhorse]

As said a few times Orange UK have offered this service for years, its probably not as popular as it was, its effectivley two differany contracts and numbers on 1 sim card.

It used to be VERY popular a few years back when Orange UK offered a service called everyday 50. meaning you go 50 mins of evening calls free every days for a very cheap price.
The catch was expensive calls during the day.

To combat this, people had an any time tariff on line 1 (first number) and the offpeak tariff on the second line (second number)
A couple of times i would of been on the phone for 20 mins during the day time to finish the call and find i was using the wrong line and got stung for the day time usage!

Whichever line you dialled out would be displayed at the other end.
Works quite well also for seperating business and plesure as you can disable calls coming in on one of the lines (ie the weekend)

[Northred]

I have a AT&T Tilt, modded with Dutty's Final ROM as well... but under SETTINGS>Phone there is no ALS tab like the one you show....

am i missing something?

(Using on Rogers Wireless Canada with a Sim Card with two lines/numbers)

I cannot call out on the 2nd number, which is important.

I used to have a HTC 621 (aka Dash/Excalibur) which didnt have this option either but at least when people called the Line2 number it would have a distinctive ring... the Tilt/Kaiser makes no distinction with either number...

Help

[PsychodelEKS]

Northred, you can try to enable it by setting "ShowALSPage" to 1 in your registry under HKLM/Software/OEM/PhoneSetting.

[roks]

I beleive 2nd line is a Orange thing, you get 2 numbers.....one simcard

[kostas-k]

I have a Cosmote (Greece) SIM card which has 2 numbers in it (2in1) but the Line 1 or 2 doesn't work whether I use First number of SIMcard or Second,the "1" remains there.

[suze]

I do have an Orange Line 2 on my SIM, and using Dutty's rom I can see both lines, and hve the ability to switch and make outbound call on either line 1 or line 2. However, anyone calling line 2 is either call dropped instantly or receives a message saying the service is not available on this line. The Sim and Line 2 works fine in a HTC S710 Vox.


Any suggestions?

[Farsquidge]

Whenever you first get your contract it usually just a one line active.

To get two lines working on one SIM card you have to call your carrier and request them to activate it for you but remember, it is just like having two contracts. They will be completely separate phone numbers.

It is standard for most business users to request this so you can have one line as a private line to keep your bills apart for expenses. :)

You can even request another completely different fax number and there are app's out there that will receive them and display them on your phone.

[suze]

I do have the line 2 service and have been using it on a S710 with no issues. The screen shows you whether the inbound calls are one L1 or L2.

The problem is that I've changed phones and have a Tytn II (Kaiser) now. With Dutty's rom I can access both lines outbound, but cannot receive any calls on L2 inbound as per the previous post. It seems that while WM6 supports the service, perhaps the Kaiser hardware cannot?

[Farsquidge]

I do have the line 2 service and have been using it on a S710 with no issues. The screen shows you whether the inbound calls are one L1 or L2.

The problem is that I've changed phones and have a Tytn II (Kaiser) now. With Dutty's rom I can access both lines outbound, but cannot receive any calls on L2 inbound as per the previous post. It seems that while WM6 supports the service, perhaps the Kaiser hardware cannot?

Hmm, that is a poser!! It's working fine on mine (Stock European TyTnII not carrier tied).

Anyone know the answer to that?? :o

[suze]

Hmm, perhaps I will try the standard HTC Rom and see if that makes any difference. worth a try.

[suze]

Terribly odd. Have installed the HTC original ROM and I still have the line 1 and 2 icons. I can change lines using the # key and make outgoing calls from either line okay. Inbound calls come in fine on line 1, but when you try to call inbound to line 2 it goes pear shaped. Calling from a landline (BT) you get the message: "This service is not compatable on this line". Calling from another mobile the call is simply dropped after a second or two. The Kaiser doesn't react at all.

so close and yet so far.

Hoping someone can assist :)

[Farsquidge]

Terribly odd. Have installed the HTC original ROM and I still have the line 1 and 2 icons. I can change lines using the # key and make outgoing calls from either line okay. Inbound calls come in fine on line 1, but when you try to call inbound to line 2 it goes pear shaped. Calling from a landline (BT) you get the message: "This service is not compatable on this line". Calling from another mobile the call is simply dropped after a second or two. The Kaiser doesn't react at all.

so close and yet so far.

Hoping someone can assist :)


Go to 'Settings' 'Phone' 'Services' and see if you have any call barring or anything else set up by accident on your line 2. Worth a try! :)

[suze]

thanks for the suggestion but no luck i'm afraid - nothing barred or otherwise amiss.

even put the sim back in my S710 to check - both line 1 and 2 work fine in that phone - both inbound and outbound.

[licht77]

You can even request another completely different fax number and there are app's out there that will receive them and display them on your phone.

I cant see the ALSPage - although its activated in registry per default (german T-Mob ROM). Any ideas how to activate that feature?

And for the faxline.... i HAVE a second data line for fax purposes but could never locate a working fax application. any hints highly appreciated!

[Farsquidge]

I cant see the ALSPage - although its activated in registry per default (german T-Mob ROM). Any ideas how to activate that feature?

And for the faxline.... i HAVE a second data line for fax purposes but could never locate a working fax application. any hints highly appreciated!

Per you first question, I am not sure. It may be determined by your operator firmware.

As to your second question, there used to be some old Fax software around for Pocket PC's but as to the compatability with WM I can't say.

The latest talk is that FAX will be supported in the latest Mobile Office in WM 6.1 http://http://www.itweek.co.uk/itweek/news/2191636/windows-mobile-support-office so lets keep our fingers crossed. :)

[philhs]

thanks for the suggestion but no luck i'm afraid - nothing barred or otherwise amiss.

even put the sim back in my S710 to check - both line 1 and 2 work fine in that phone - both inbound and outbound.

The best that I have come up with is to forward all line 2 calls to voicemail. At least that way I know who has called.

phil

[suze]

The best that I have come up with is to forward all line 2 calls to voicemail. At least that way I know who has called.

phil

Thansk - thats a good idea philhs. Lets hope maybe a firmware update in the future will sort this for us :)