'Touch Settings' Program for Vogue (aka Sprint Touch)

[Haggar]

First - thank you to Carlos for his hard work on the original version and now for taking the time to update it for those of us using Sprint's touch. I'm starting this as a separate thread since the new beta version will have many issues unrelated to the original versions.

And, unfortunately, I get to start off with my first issue which occurs upon execution of the program.

A few moments after starting the program I get the follow error message...

System.ArgumentException: An error message cannot be displayed because an optional resource assembly containing it cannot be found at Microsoft.AGL.Common.MISC.HandleAr() at System.Drawing.Bitmap._InitFromMemoryStream() at System.Drawing.Bitmap..ctor() at TouchSettings.Form1.load PBpictureFromPath()

And then the error message scrolls off the screen without scroll bar for me to see what else it says... :(

Upon clicking the "OK" button, the program continues to load to the App Launcher screen.

Upon load, the App Launcher screen is empty. The screenshot, icons, path and program title are not populated.

When I click on the empty box where the screenshot should be located I get the same as as before and the program exits.

I can populate the App name and path fields and can also ad an Icon -- but only for one program. When I save and reset however, the app name, path and icons are not retained.

When returning to the program after the first entry, I continue to receive the same error and the App Launcher screen is again blank.


In Media Hub:

First - the screenshot displayed is from the other version of the Touch screens...with the bluegreen icons -- not yellow. I assume you know that, but just wanted to mention it.

The "Sprint Music" fields default to the ATC Audio Manager which, to my understanding, does not come on the Touch. I've already installed AudioManager so the link worked fine -- but I'd suggest defaulting it to Sprint's Java-based Music ap just like the stock set up (less confusion for noobs)

Sprint TV seems to work as expected.

On Demand also worked as expected.

I changed the settings for On Demand to point to \windows\HTCAlbum.exe, however, and upon re-boot I received the following error when trying to run it from the cube:

The file " cannot be opened. Either it is not signed with a trusted certificate, or one of its components cannot be found. If the problem persists, try reinstalling or restoring this file.

(and that single quotation mark after the words "The file" is exactly what displays)

Weather appears to display properly. I haven't had a chance to test the auto update feature yet.

On the bright side - the About screen works perfectly. It's just as easy to send Carlos a beer as it was before!

Given that we'll soon have a Vogue forum started I also assume you'll probably want to update the Support Thread to include a link for "Sprint Support"??

Whew. That's all for the first 10 minutes. :)

THANK YOU CARLOS! Your hard work is appreciated!

[jbrail]

My experience is exactly the same on the sprint touch.

Joe

[Russellhi]

I just wanted to drop in and say thanks for all your work Carlos!

[poe019]

Same problems still having problems with the app loader portion of the settings. The other settings work as they should.

[ambush276]

ok well i made custom PNG's for Slingplayer mobile and opera, if anyone needs custom images let me know im makin em. BUt i need the sprint program to implement the images!

[utexascg]

the original "Touch Settings" program that you're referring to will work with the Sprint Touch without any problems. You just have to know what you're doing....

Step 1: Download TaskMgr and copy to your phone. Place TaskMgr in the \windows\start menu\programs\ folder of your device.

Step 2: Run the TaskMgr program you just put on your device. Upon opening TaskMgr, a list of running processes will be displayed. You want to terminate the following processes; biotouch.exe, quickdial.exe, mediahubmini.exe and aplauncher.exe. To do this, select each one individually and then tap the "Close" button on the bottom of the screen.

Step 3: Download and install the TouchFlo Alpha cab below.
- 3a: upon successful completion of the installation you will be prompted to "Reset" your device. Click "NO".

4. navigate to the \windows\startup folder and delete any new links that were created.

5. navigate to the \windows\start menu\programs folder and delete "touchflo"

6. Download and install the Touch Settings Cab below. Again, at the completion of the installation it will prompt you to restart your device. SELECT NO!. You are not ready to reset your device just yet.

7. Now that you've killed the 4 processes, installed the touchflo alpha cab and the touch settings cab, we're almost done. Navigate to the \windows\startup folder and delete the mediahubmini link.

8. Soft Reset Device.

9. Launch "Touch Settings" program from the Start Menu.

10. BEFORE MAKING ANY CHANGES TO THE CUBE CLICK "SAVE". WAIT APPROXIMATELY 1 MINUTE AND THEN SOFT RESET AGAIN.

11. Run Touch Settings again and start customizing.

Hope this helps.

Later

[abeery]

the original "Touch Settings" program that you're referring to will work with the Sprint Touch without any problems. You just have to know what you're doing....

Step 3: Download and install the TouchFlo Alpha cab below.
- 3a: upon successful completion of the installation you will be prompted to "Reset" your device. Click "NO".

...

6. Download and install the Touch Settings Cab below. Again, at the completion of the installation it will prompt you to restart your device. SELECT NO!. You are not ready to reset your device just yet.

...



Not sure what and where to get these cabs... can you provide links? (especially first one)
TouchFlo Alpha cab? Touch Settings Cab (is ths 1.22 or 1.29?)

[carlosp_uk]

I'm starting this as a separate thread since the new beta version will have many issues unrelated to the original versions.

Hi guys and thx Haggar and others for bug reports - I think I may have some theories as to what's going wrong.

I made a new test build for you to try out - the CAB is attached below. (REMOVED, SEE LATER POST FOR UPDATED VERSION) Please install and let me know how you get on. It should create a log file called log.txt in the app directory which you can attach to your post in case of any problems:

QUESTIONS:

1. Does it now work?
2. If not, what happens?
3. If not, please attach the log file.
4. When you go to the "About" screen, it says "Detected Device:" at the top - what is the detected device?


@utexas - I'm not sure what your instructions are referring to, but please ignore these peeps, as it would be best for us to try to get the app working properly with the Sprint without resorting to loading older versions of the TOuchFLO software onto your devices.

Finally, does anybody have a Sprint that they HAVENT yet installed Touch Settings onto? If so, please could somebody zip up a copy of \Windows\MediaHubMini.exe for me from your Sprint device and send it to me? This should be BEFORE installing any Touch Settings software, as this patches over the executable, and I'd like a copy of the NEW MediaHubMini.exe that comes with your device, so I can see if I need to release a new patch. If anyone has recently hard reset their device, then the file will be on your device unaltered.

Thanks for the nice comments peeps.

Carlos

[mark1581]

Here you go Carlos. I have never installed Touch Settings on my Sprint Touch.

What exactly is Touch Settings? Could someone tell me, or point me to the original thread? Thanks.

[abeery]

Thanks Carlos... I've attached the log.txt file... still generating errors... looking for bitmaps (brns) that it cannot load... example... looking for \windows\AL_03.brn... this file is indeed located in the indicated location so not sure what the problem is...I tried to make and save a change to the launcher and now I get no images in the 3x2 launcher.

[Haggar]

Thanks Carlos... I've attached the log.txt file... still generating errors... looking for bitmaps (brns) that it cannot load... example... looking for \windows\AL_03.brn... this file is indeed located in the indicated location so not sure what the problem is...I tried to make and save a change to the launcher and now I get no images in the 3x2 launcher.

Other than the time of day, his log file looks identical to mine...so I won't bother uploading...

[handlez]

Thanks Carlos... I've attached the log.txt file... still generating errors... looking for bitmaps (brns) that it cannot load... example... looking for \windows\AL_03.brn... this file is indeed located in the indicated location so not sure what the problem is...I tried to make and save a change to the launcher and now I get no images in the 3x2 launcher.


same here. but what i figured out about "no images in the launcher" is the path are all set to "\\" instead of just one "\". so i use memmaid to fix it in the registry and the cube is fine again.

[carlosp_uk]

OK everyone

Thanks for all the log files etc. It's now very clear what the issue is - simply that the newer version of the touch uses BRN files instead of PNG files for its icons! BRN is a proprietary format, basically a BMP with header information removed and some other changes; there's information elsewhere on this site about it.

So... ...to get Touch Settings working on the Sprint, I'll have to build BRN support into the program, which is going to involve:

1. Studying the file format and finding out more info. (this thread is a good starting point)
2. OR approaching the author of the BMP2BRN program to ask if he'd allow me to use his source code inside Touch Settings.

....if anyone can help with either of these, please do! Touch Settings is written in vb.net CF.

Until then, might I suggest you go about trying to use .PNG files instead for the time being, and report back to the forum to let us know if they work instead of BRN files! I will release a new build of Touch Settings asap which side-steps the error messages and displays blank icons for the time being, just so as you can use the program.. ..it will work fine, it just won't display the icons for you!


Carlos



Here you go Carlos. I have never installed Touch Settings on my Sprint Touch. What exactly is Touch Settings? Could someone tell me, or point me to the original thread? Thanks.

Mark, thanks ever so much for this - will be very helpful! Original thread about Touch Settings - and what it is - here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=324556

[killabee44]

My log file also had the same info. Thanks for all your hard work Carlos. A friend of mine also has a touch that does not have any settings program installed. Let me know if you need any other files.

[ambush276]

lol i had a post earlier about PNG and BRN files. Basically i want to be able to just chang the icons text and path. I dont care about the BG color, how how the cube rotates. I made my own CUstom PNG's for the 3X2 launcher, and i made a custom one for the media hub. I made them all the same size on accident, but for the sprint touch do i need to convert the PNG's to BRN files then where do i save them in my phones directory?

anyone have the dimensions for the 3X2 and the media hub. I made them all

119 by 105. ?? Is there an easy way to change the size to the size for the media hub because i believe that is the size for the 3X2. Any help is appreciated!

[abeery]

OK everyone

Thanks for all the log files etc. It's now very clear what the issue is - simply that the newer version of the touch uses BRN files instead of PNG files for its icons! BRN is a proprietary format, basically a BMP with header information removed and some other changes; there's information elsewhere on this site about it.


Carlos,

I see from reading another thread you've already got the source code for "BrnConvert"... does this meet your needs or do you need anything else?

Let us know what we can do to aid your efforts... 1.29c was close but I had to clean up my registry to remove all the double slashes in the image and program paths and obviously the brn issue you noted...

Again thanks for you great work on this...

Everyone else... don't forget to buy this man a beer at his Fatattitute.com web site

[KOTULCN]

is there any new news on a possible fix?

[ojmbrooklyn]

Is version 1.29c worth installing at this point? Any recommendations??

[carlosp_uk]

Hello everyone - I think I may be nearly there!

I've certainly got BRN support working on my original touch, anyway, so let's see if this new build works for you.

CAB file attached below, usual installation instructions apply. (see this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=324556)

Please let me know if the icons are displaying correctly, and any other feedback re: usage. Should be the correct colour mediahub logo too!

Carlos

PS: Sprint owners, for completeness, you may want to copy the newer mediahubmini.exe into your \Windows\ directory (attached) as my prog overwrites it with a slightly older version. My tests have shown this shouldn't be a problem, but it's up to you. Note to older Touch users: do NOT use this newer version of mediahubmini.exe you will run into problems with your touch screen.

[ambush276]

so we install the cab then just replace the EXE file after.

also carlos, if i want to make my own icons

1. can they be the same size for the media hub and 3X2

2. Do they need to be BRN style, i made them PNG (but i can convert to BMP then to BRN.)

3. Where do i save them on my phone.

4. i have the sprint touch!

thanks carlos

[kkumar99]

so i'm having trouble installing this program...i'm using memmaid to try and shut down mediahub, but it doesn't show up in memmaid...i can't delete it either, cause it says it may be write-protected...so i try just running the touch settings cab, and that doesn't work (installation unsuccessful)...I was able to load the old version manually previously (3x1 working, 3x2 not), but it seems I can't use the cab file directly...is there a manual way to install the new version? Anyone else having this problem?

[retrobits]

I used Task Manager 2.7 @ http://buzzdev.net/file.php?27,file=228
to kill mediahubmini.exe, then the cab file installed perfectly.

And... the program works great too! (beer has been bought)

thanks so much for this Carlos!

[ambush276]

what about the task manager already built into the touch the X button, or is that only on the sprint version? would that work for the prog?

also can someone answer my earlier post

so we install the cab then just replace the EXE file after.

also carlos, if i want to make my own icons

1. can they be the same size for the media hub and 3X2

2. Do they need to be BRN style, i made them PNG (but i can convert to BMP then to BRN.)

3. Where do i save them on my phone.

4. i have the sprint touch!


THANKS!!!!!!

[KK20]

After successful Touch Settings 1.29d cab install, I reinstalled the newer mediahubmini.exe in the \Windows\ directory with the following results on my Sprint Touch...

Touchflo seems to have restored it's original touch sensitivity as it didn't seem to be the same (less sensitive) after Touch Settings install (maybe only a perception).

The screens and fonts on the Mediahub screen have been restored to their original state with slightly smaller fonts. The font on the lowest (#3) button ran off the screen prior to the reinstall.

[carlosp_uk]

also carlos, if i want to make my own icons
1. can they be the same size for the media hub and 3X2


Ambush

Glad it's working for you. In terms of icons for the 3x1 media hub, I'm not entirely sure about changing these, as the functionality isn't currently built into the 'Touch Settings' program to do this. I need to look into which bitmap files they're stored in and how the HTC apps display them, i.e. on top of the animation bitmaps? B0.BRN, A0.BRN and C0.BRN.... ....or not at all. I know from experience that the HTC apps don't always behave as you imagine they will.

What you also need to bear in mind is that, even if you change these, the animations of the cube rotating will still display the old icons, unless you change the individual animation files too. (\Windows\A0.BRN, A3.BRN, B0, C0, etc...)

One day, when I have time, I hope to develop Touch Settings further so that it automatically generates the BRN animation files. This has now come a step closer to reality with my integration of the brn file format into the code.


2. Do they need to be BRN style, i made them PNG (but i can convert to BMP then to BRN.)


I'd actually like to know this myself! I know that you CAN'T use BRN icons on an older touch, but can you use PNG icons on the Sprint Touch? Try loading one in using the newest version of "Touch Settings", reset, see if it displays on the 3x2 APLauncher, and let me know.


3. Where do i save them on my phone.

In general, everything seems to go in the \Windows dir, but for icons you can probably put them anywhere on the device (pref. not storage card) and point "Touch Settings" to the right place.


4. i have the sprint touch!


Good. I wish I did. Or a Touch Dual. Now that'd be nice. Mmmmm ;-)

Carlos

[abeery]

so i'm having trouble installing this program...i'm using memmaid to try and shut down mediahub, but it doesn't show up in memmaid...i can't delete it either, cause it says it may be write-protected...so i try just running the touch settings cab, and that doesn't work (installation unsuccessful)...I was able to load the old version manually previously (3x1 working, 3x2 not), but it seems I can't use the cab file directly...is there a manual way to install the new version? Anyone else having this problem?

In MemMaid you need to show "processes" in order to stop mediahub

Carlos... 1.29d works like a champ! Thanks my friend! Now go out and enjoy the beer (or cidar as the case may be)

[ambush276]

ok i c what you are saying about the animations still displaying the old style. I guess my next question is..

if i install BRN files into my windows directory, like icon BRNS, will it still animate with the old Icons. What about if i copy the old icons to my desktop as a backup copy, and rename my new icons to the old icons? Will it then use those as the animations?? or if i just select the icons in touch settings and they are BRN's will the animations be ok?? just a question. Ive been using my friends touch to mod, because mine is in the mail... he is out of town right now, so i cant try it out?Anyone ?

[kkumar99]

I used Task Manager 2.7 @ http://buzzdev.net/file.php?27,file=228
to kill mediahubmini.exe, then the cab file installed perfectly.

And... the program works great too! (beer has been bought)

thanks so much for this Carlos!

thanks...i used task manager...worked great.

[KK20]

On the Launcher page of Touch Settings, I have successfully changed the Application on the cube for Program 1, and the first icon can choose a brn file, however, when changing the highlighted icon (2nd icon from the left on the launcher page), only png files are selectable and brn files can't be previewed.

Am I missing something or is this an issue as the icon is viewable on the cube, but it does not highlight when selected.

Thanks!

[mza4]

I agree it appears that BRN support was only added for the default icon, the selected icon is still expecting a PNG file. Besides that it looks great. Thanks

[ambush276]

ok wait wait... Let me get this straight...

when i scroll onto the icon, its still PNG... But when i click on it or flip the cube, it ends up being a BRN file? What if i just make a icon and an icon_HL a BRN file. It will it pop up normal and animate well?

[pp18]

may i know whether the cube in Sprint Touch is same as Touch Dual? here's the version numbers i got from my Touch Dual (the Biotouch registry key):

APLauncher: 2.0.29038
BioTouch: 2.0.28597
MediaHubMini: 2.0.28927
MHubMiniWMPPlugInDLL: 2.0.28308
QuickDial: 2.5.28927

although i've manually set up my custom cube (in particular the applauncher targets and all images), i can't deny that it's a painful process which i don't want to do it manually again. it'll be great if the new Touch Settings runs on Touch Dual as well.

carlos if you're interested, i'm more than happy to tell the detailed manual steps so that you can code it into the program.

thanks in advance.

[ambush276]

anyone know???

[carlosp_uk]

On the Launcher page of Touch Settings, I have successfully changed the Application on the cube for Program 1, and the first icon can choose a brn file, however, when changing the highlighted icon (2nd icon from the left on the launcher page), only png files are selectable and brn files can't be previewed.

Oops! Sorry chaps, will release a new build to fix this.. ..also have some very exciting new features about to be released in the next few days!

Carlos

[carlosp_uk]

Dear All

I have uploaded a new build, v1.29e, to www.fatattitude.com/software - which fixes the Pressed_Icon_BRN issue reported, sorry about that. There's also a sneak preview (see screenshot below) of a very big feature that I'm about to add in the next release.... ;-)

Carlos



@pp18 - I'll try and get around to checking for you, but I don't see any reason why it shouldn't work! If you try loading it, see whether it picks up your current settings; if it does then the chances are you'll be fine. Do let us know if you take the plunge and report back! And, yes, i would certainly be interested in your manual procedure if it doesn't work for you.

@ambush - the A0,A1,A3...C5 BRN files are displayed when the cube rotates. The icon files (which used to be PNG but are now BRN in the Sprint Touch) are overlaid on top of these. So, to get your new icons as part of the spinning cube animation, you need to change the BRN files on your desktop PC... see the sticky thread in the Elf forum....or wait a few days ;-) (screenshot attached)

[jsampalok]

i tried installing the cab but get this message when installing it.

"Installationwas unsuccessful. The program or setting cannot be installed because it dose not have sufficient system permissions."

what did i do wrong? thanks!

j

[ambush276]

ic so in a few days.. w. the new touch settings, if i create a BRN file for an icon, i just load it up to my phone, and tell touch settings where it is. THen it will rotate with the new icons and press with the new icons asumming i have a img and an img_HL?

also icons still same size for 3X2 and Media hub??

or do i need someone to make me a photoshop PSD. of a blank cube, then take each side of the cube and customly add the images in each spot, then save the BRN's Make an HL verison. So then i have 4 files (media hub and media hub HL / 3X2 and 3X2 HL)??? just a quick clear up lol

[abeery]

i tried installing the cab but get this message when installing it.

"Installationwas unsuccessful. The program or setting cannot be installed because it dose not have sufficient system permissions."

what did i do wrong? thanks!

j

Look around on this thread for additional instructions but basically you need to use a program like memmaid (free 15 day trial) to stop the biotouch and minimediahub (bad memory at the moment... something m????hub) ... in MemMaid the key is to look for running processes (not programs)... once you stop these two you will be able install the cab.

Carlos... you dog!... are you adding support to regenerate animations based on slected images!!! Cannot wait... I may have to buy you another beer for this one!

[nitty917]

i tried installing the cab but get this message when installing it.

"Installationwas unsuccessful. The program or setting cannot be installed because it dose not have sufficient system permissions."

what did i do wrong? thanks!

j


same here on a sprint touch

[carlosp_uk]

i tried installing the cab but get this message when installing it. "Installationwas unsuccessful. The program or setting cannot be installed because it dose not have sufficient system permissions."




same here on a sprint touch



From www.fatattitude.com (Support section) :

Error - could not install the cab because of "insufficient system permissions'

This error message can occur for several reasons. Try these steps to cure it:

1. Firstly, Open a process explorer such as MemMaid, or SK Tools and make sure that you kill the process MediaHubMini.exe before installation. You could also kill BioTouch.exe as well to be double sure.

2. If you get the error, just reset your device and try installing again - this honestly worked for me!

3. If you're installing to Storage Card, try installing to the Device instead.
Check there is enough free storage space on your device.



Can you try these and let me know if it still doesn't work? Please report back, in case there's a special issue with the Sprint Touch that I'm unaware of.

[carlosp_uk]

ic so in a few days.. w. the new touch settings, if i create a BRN file for an icon, i just load it up to my phone, and tell touch settings where it is. THen it will rotate with the new icons and press with the new icons asumming i have a img and an img_HL?


ambush, pretty much - all the information you need is on this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=325424


also icons still same size for 3X2 and Media hub??


See if you can do some research and tell us what you find.



or do i need someone to make me a photoshop PSD. of a blank cube, then take each side of the cube and customly add the images in each spot, then save the BRN's Make an HL verison. So then i have 4 files (media hub and media hub HL / 3X2 and 3X2 HL)??? just a quick clear up lol

At the moment, this is pretty much what you would have to do, yes, to make a proper animation with all your icons and contact photos on... ....or wait a small while for the next Touch Settings! ;-)

C

[pp18]

Dear All
@pp18 - I'll try and get around to checking for you, but I don't see any reason why it shouldn't work! If you try loading it, see whether it picks up your current settings; if it does then the chances are you'll be fine. Do let us know if you take the plunge and report back! And, yes, i would certainly be interested in your manual procedure if it doesn't work for you.


just tried with v1.29e.

1. the MediaHubMini.exe installed by the cab is obviously older than the one shipped with my Touch Dual (mine of timestamp 13 Nov 2007). right after installing TouchSetting, if i launch the cube now, the MediaHubMini side becomes just a whole black screen with only the 3 captions. i must manually removed the MediaHubMini.exe come with TouchSetting cab in order to return to my shipped one.

2. run Touch Settings -> got error "Cannot read existing Quickdial Contacts" (i then click ok to close the error msg and go into the TS prog)

3. Launcher tab:
as shown in the attached screenshot, my customised app launcher could not be displayed properly. after all, the target app and parameters are retrieved from registry properly (i could see the manual changes i made).

4. Media tab:
not sure whether it's on purpose or not, the thumbnail on the top-right corner is the original ones shipped with the handset rather than my cutom images.

5. Cube tab:
i first saw the "Building Cube..." screen (cube1.png), but within a second i got an error msg (cube2.png) and the TS prog exited in a second. here's the translation of the error msg:
System.IO.FileNotFoundException: The error message cannot be displayed because the optional resource component containing the error message is not found.
in System.IO.__Error.WinIOError()
in System.IO.FileStream.ctor()
in System.IO.FileStream.ctor()
in TouchSettings.BrnReader.BRNtoBitmap()
in TouchSettings.BrnReader.A.... <-- below unreadable


re #2 above, FYI the registry key being used by QuickDialer on Touch Dual is:
HKLM\Software\HTC\Contacts\0 .. 8

re #3-5 above, is the Touch Settings program trying to access AL_01..06.brn? in Touch Dual there is a Color Skin concept, where:
{color} = "HKLM\Software\HTC\ColorSkin\Color" key value
all cube .brn files (AL_*.brn, [ABC][0-5].brn, [ABC][01-05].brn and MH*.brn) should carry the {color} prefix in file name.
e.g. when using default bluish color scheme, we'll have Color key = "Blue", the BioTouch Path[n] key = "AL_01.brn" and should have corresponding image file "\Windows\BlueAL_01.brn"

hope this helps.

[carlosp_uk]

just tried with v1.29e.
hope this helps.

@pp18 - this is incredibly helpful feedback, thanks! I shall get to work making the App compatible with the Touch Dual. Is there anything else I need to know? Does your weather info display OK?

I think I'm going to change the install process so that mediahubmini.exe is only overwritten if older.

Also, is there a registry key that identifies your device as a Touch Dual? DeviceID?

On the 'about' screen, what is your detected device? I'm assuming "Original".

Finally.. ...do you have \Windows\A0.BRN, \Windows\A3.BRN etc or is it \Windows\BlueA0.BRN etc.

I might get back to you with a couple more questions later, but thanks again. Look forward to working with you to get this, um, working!

[nzgman]

i also installed version e and got the same issues as "CC18" did

mine is the New Zealand version of the phone labled "Okta touch"

previously had tried version d and did not get those error's but now have the issue of no icon's being displayed and cant get it back to the original settings by removing the programme and coping back my original "MediaHubMini.exe" file back on (copyed the original to my pc before i installed the programme)

Looks like your getting close though, keep up the great work

Thanks

[ambush276]

hey carlos thanks for all the help just a quick last question... with the new updated cube animation touch settings, will we still need the different .exe to download for the sprint touch. You said he have to download another exe becaue the one we get w/ touch settings is out of date? is that going to be fixed? or not?

[dabs]

Can I jump in on this one, will help to test anything.

Got my HTC branded touch Dual (ROM: 1.31.405.09)

Anything I can do to help?

[carlosp_uk]

hey carlos thanks for all the help just a quick last question... with the new updated cube animation touch settings, will we still need the different .exe to download for the sprint touch. You said he have to download another exe becaue the one we get w/ touch settings is out of date? is that going to be fixed? or not?

Ambush, this will be fixed in the next release and your .exe will be left un-patched.

Anything I can do to help


Thanks dabs, I shall be releasing a test version for Touch Dual later this week, will post here and would be grateful for help testing.

Best

Carlos

[pp18]

@pp18 - this is incredibly helpful feedback, thanks! I shall get to work making the App compatible with the Touch Dual. Is there anything else I need to know?

note sure whether it's the same as in Sprint Touch, there are more interim states for the cube transition in Touch Dual than that in Touch.

left right: X0, X1, X2, ... X5
up down: X01, X02, ... X05
(where X = A, B or C; if 4th side is used, it can be D as well)
so totally 33 brn files for a 3-side cube.


Does your weather info display OK?

(a) i'm using Celsius display in HTC Home. Yet, when first navigate to the Weather tab, Fahrenheit is being shown. i suppose it should display my currently used option instead?

(b) a strange behaviour:
use Touch Settings to choose another city (i used the Get From File tab) --> Save --> back to Today screen --> the newly selected city is being shown on the weather tab of HTC Home --> click on city bar on HTC Home to switch back to home town --> i tried a couple times but no effect (seems it thought i didn't change another city) --> using the HTC Home built-in city selector screen, i must first choose to a third city before i can switch back to my home city.

I think I'm going to change the install process so that mediahubmini.exe is only overwritten if older.

yes, maybe can use the version registry key for this purpose.

Also, is there a registry key that identifies your device as a Touch Dual? DeviceID?

so far not found. how did you try to differentiate Touch and Sprint Touch? i'm thinking whether the "BioTouch Ver" registry key is helpful. yet, need to know the value for Touch and Sprint Touch first.

On the 'about' screen, what is your detected device? I'm assuming "Original".

you mean the "About" tab of Touch Settings, right? it's detected as "Sprint". :P

Finally.. ...do you have \Windows\A0.BRN, \Windows\A3.BRN etc or is it \Windows\BlueA0.BRN etc.

it's BlueA0.brn.
there're totally 4 sets shipped with my Touch Dual, "Blue", "Red", "Green" and "BlueCSL" (specific to a network operator here). the forth set has more .brn as this is a 4-side cube.

I might get back to you with a couple more questions later, but thanks again. Look forward to working with you to get this, um, working!

thanks so much for your work, carlos. very excited to the coming transition generation feature. :)

btw, is the normal/highlighted images on App Launcher automatically generated based on an icon with transparent background? if yes, it'll be much helpful if the same can be applied on the Touch Dual Action Screen (the one displayed when keypad is slided out) as well so as to keep consistent look between the App Launcher and the Action Screen.

meanwhile, here's the list of relevant registry keys on Touch Dual for your reference:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\Biotouch]
"MediaHubMini"="2.0.28927"
"RandomAccess"="09072007 V4.0"
"MHubMiniWMPPlugInDLL"="2.0.28308"
"QuickDial"="2.5.28927"
"BioTouch Ver"="2.0.28597"
"APLauncher"="2.0.29038"

; there are quite some keys here, repeated for the 3 sides. i only quote one set here
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\Biotouch\Biotouch]
"Cube1"=hex:07,01,02,03,04,05,06,07,0A,C8,C9,CA,CB,13,14, 15,16,17,01
"Cube2"=hex:07,07,08,09,0A,0B,0C,0D,0A,C8,C9,CA,CB,18,19, 1A,1B,1C,07
"Cube3"=hex:07,0D,0E,0F,10,11,12,01,0A,C8,C9,CA,CB,1D,1E, 1F,20,21,0D
"TotalCubes"=dword:00000003
"TotalBMP"=dword:00000021
Path1="A0.brn"
Path2="A1.brn"
Path3="A2.brn"
Path4="A3.brn"
Path5="A4.brn"
Path6="A5.brn"
Path19="A01.brn"
Path20="A02.brn"
Path21="A03.brn"
Path22="A04.brn"
Path23="A05.brn"

; for simplicity, only show you one of the 6 app here
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\Biotouch\APLaunche r\App1]
"Height"=dword:00000069
"Width"=dword:00000077
"yPos"=dword:0000006B
"xPos"=dword:00000000
"Type"=dword:00000000
"Name"="Internet Explorer"
"Path"="\\Windows\\iexplore.exe"
"Param"=""
"IconPath"="AL_02.brn"
"IconPressPath"="AL_02_HL.brn"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\ColorSkin]
"Color"="Blue"

[carlosp_uk]

note sure whether it's the same as in Sprint Touch, there are more interim states for the cube transition in Touch Dual than that in Touch.

Thanks, and looking forward to the rest. I should get some time over the next couple of days to build you a test version - which will also animate the cube!

Another question too:

When you talk about the 'Skin' reg key, is this something changeable by yourself, or does it come pre-installed by HTC? In other words do you have \Windows\YellowA0.BRN and \Windows\BlueA0.BRN or just one of them?

[pp18]

oh sorry, i forgot to provide the color key. added to post #48.

all these in \Windows\ shipped with my Touch Dual:
BlueA0.brn
RedA0.brn
BlueCSLA0.brn <-- specific to handsets sold thru specific network operator

there is no UI program to switch to another color scheme. seems can only be changed from registry.

one interesting observation: the built-in Green set is incomplete. there're only those for the Action Screen, but none for the cube.

[ambush276]

bump this puppy to the top!

[carlosp_uk]

bump this puppy to the top!

Hi guys, it's going to be a few days now until I get something back to you as am struggling to find the time with a heavy workload in my day job. But I'm on the case, I promise!

[pp18]

btw, carlos, any interest to support the 4th side AppLauncher? ;)

it's built-in supported by the version on Touch Dual (the necessary 4th .exe called by BioTouch is there). mine is disabled now (the 4th side is specific to a network operator and hence i uninstalled it), but i guess i can call it back manually after some trial and error. if u have interest, maybe i can supply the details after a successful experiment. :D

[chAz15]

Is the animation drop down menu operational? Where do I drop my cube animation files so they show up in the list?

Thanks,

[ambush276]

ok carlos or anyone can you clear this up for me. I understand now i need to make .BRN files for my icons. But what are the "animations" is that just the cube rotating? If i dont mind the way it rotates am i ok? If i have custom icons on the APp launcher and Media Hub do i need to do anything to animations? or am i ok ?? thanks in advance.

[carlosp_uk]

Hi all

I have a new beta of Touch Settings v2.0 that I'd really like a couple of people to test for me, in particular people with Vogues and Touch Duals, especially pp18 and that other kind person who volunteered.

BUT.. .....can we move the conversation back to the original thread now please so it doesn't get confusing.

I have posted the new version back in the original thread:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1722439#post1722439

Thanks,

Carlos

[flyhighusa]

I got everything installed and found the Opera Mobile PNG files and applied them in touch settings, however it does not show the correct files, instead it is just BLACK background in the cube even though the program launches.

any thoughts?

[carlosp_uk]

I got everything installed and found the Opera Mobile PNG files and applied them in touch settings, however it does not show the correct files, instead it is just BLACK background in the cube even though the program launches.

any thoughts?

please post in the correct thread. (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=324556&page=24)

If you're using a Sprint Touch (Vogue), I think you might need to use BRN rather than PNG.

You weren't trying the pre-release were you? (v2.11pre) This was, as I said, for expert users only. If you have, there was a bug in this release that could have caused this behaviour. If so, please restore your registry values from the backup you made before installing it.