Effects of ROM Flashing

[ecltech]

Hi all,

Does anyone know of any ill effects that ROM Flashing may have on the 8925? Specifically, is there any issue with continually flashing the device -- any possibility of corrupting anything and not being able to flash any ROM?

Just curious as I've been testing quite a few ROMs and I'm thinking of start testing my own ROMs just for the learning process.

Appreciate any feedback.

-Mike

[jcespi2005]

Hi all,

Does anyone know of any ill effects that ROM Flashing may have on the 8925? Specifically, is there any issue with continually flashing the device -- any possibility of corrupting anything and not being able to flash any ROM?

Just curious as I've been testing quite a few ROMs and I'm thinking of start testing my own ROMs just for the learning process.

Appreciate any feedback.

-Mike


For what i know, you can do till 100.000 write operations to NAND flash, so don't care about the number of flash you make ;)

The real risk if not having the HardSPL...

Cheers.

[ecltech]

jcepsi2005,

Just wanted to make sure. :)

Thanks for the reply.

-Mike

[BeyondtheTech]

Every time you flash a device, a baby kitten dies. Please do it sparingly. :)

[goestoeleven]

Perhaps the biggest effect of flashing comes from the amount of time we all waste playing with our toy phones!

[cuboosh]

^^ for sure

[micdoc]

What about a black out during flashing....:eek: :eek: :eek: on a desktop with out ups ???
Is bootloader a real protection?

[dan13l]

I'm pretty sure there's a way around flashing a device that's had the power cut half way through. You can still get to the bootloader and flash again. Something to do with MTTY...if I remember rightly.

Could be wrong though.

[RemE]

Besides the increasing addiction to this site, you're probably OK. Personally I'd suggest that anyone using a PC to flash anything should consider using a UPS, a power bump is never a good thing and UPS's are pretty cheap insurance.

[_Alex_]

Since I like to cook and flash alot (as you may know if you've been hanging around the Kaiser upgrade forums :)), I've managed to disconnect my device more than a couple of times while flashing. I also managed to cause a short in my USB cable that caused my laptop to reboot every time ActiveSync began transferring files, which was *REALLY* fun when flashing until I figured out what was causing it...

Getting back on topic, as long as you installed OliPro/Pof's HardSPL there is nothing to fear. All you have to do is press the reset button with the camera button to bring up the boot menu and re-flash.

There are other 'advanced' cases of flash failure which I have not encountered, which will require the use of mtty.

[Hdstreetglide]

Perhaps the biggest effect of flashing comes from the amount of time we all waste playing with our toy phones!

AMEN......wife looks at me suspicious everytime I get on this site!:rolleyes:

[KMFM$]

^^ Your's too. :D

[emtcharlie]

Your wives only shoot you a look? Lucky bastards... :D

[thomassster]

the rom can take all the flashing...flashing your life away, thats a different story.

[jbmorales]

Holy crap! I thought I was the only one that was having issues with being on this site and the wifey getting all moody!

Maybe it was my response to her when she said to me "well since you spend so much time on that site and flicking and flashing that stupid phone then why don't you go live with it since you're always playing with it"

My response: "Maybe I will!...if only dutty can make a ROM for women then I would have more fun playing with you! Every time I get tired of you I would just flash a new ROM and have a totally different girl on the inside but the same beautiful exterior on the outside"

That comment landed me on the couch hence the reason why I'm posting at 2:20am...haahhah

jb

[tsadek]

Holy crap! I thought I was the only one that was having issues with being on this site and the wifey getting all moody!

Maybe it was my response to her when she said to me "well since you spend so much time on that site and flicking and flashing that stupid phone then why don't you go live with it since you're always playing with it"

My response: "Maybe I will!...if only dutty can make a ROM for women then I would have more fun playing with you! Every time I get tired of you I would just flash a new ROM and have a totally different girl on the inside but the same beautiful exterior on the outside"

That comment landed me on the couch hence the reason why I'm posting at 2:20am...haahhah

jb


If I didn't know better I'd say we married the same woman.

[briggs81]

Perhaps the biggest effect of flashing comes from the amount of time we all waste playing with our toy phones!

And how many times our significant others scold us doing so.

[jbmorales]

If I didn't know better I'd say we married the same woman.

haha you know how they always say theres always another you on the other side of the world somewhere.

[cutoffcirc]

I currently have the AT&T original WM 6.0 Rom (minus bloatware). I want to upgrade to a WM 6.1 ROM but don't want to spend alot of time reinstalling software. If I backup with Sprite Backup, should it be relatively smooth? Does it matter if I go with a "plain" WM 6.1 ROM or one with alot of programs already on the ROM which I may or may not have on the Backup file? Thanks...

[Brau0303]

I think most of our wives have the same SPL Locked boot loader (Un flashable) Mine used to tease me about having some buttons installed before she finally gave up and left me to my toys..

[adem_7]

Holy crap! I thought I was the only one that was having issues with being on this site and the wifey getting all moody!

Maybe it was my response to her when she said to me "well since you spend so much time on that site and flicking and flashing that stupid phone then why don't you go live with it since you're always playing with it"

My response: "Maybe I will!...if only dutty can make a ROM for women then I would have more fun playing with you! Every time I get tired of you I would just flash a new ROM and have a totally different girl on the inside but the same beautiful exterior on the outside"

That comment landed me on the couch hence the reason why I'm posting at 2:20am...haahhah

jb

Thanks jbmorales, you really made me laugh.

I am from Kosovo (independent since day before yesterday), but it just bears witness to the fact that all women (and men, for that matter) are the same everywhere. It is a dead replica of the kind of conversation I have with my wife, though I have to admit, I'm not as bold as you. No couch, therefore risking more.

Cheers.

[adem_7]

Guys,

Seeing the kind of problems with have with our wives, maybe we could start a thread on how to deal with it and share some best practices. :D:D

[Erbid]

XDA-Wife thread: :D

Mine seems to work this way: Stay online too much, spend the night with the PC. (win/win)

Fiddle with the phone instead of paying attention to life in general: Hang out regretfully with someone you'd rather not be around, until they get over it.

BTW, what are the numbers below? I figured out the Radio version is the R number... but what are the G and D numbers? (I see these after a soft reset or a power on)

Tilt
(just repaired - Reset hole too close to USB port!)
R 1.27.14.09
G 22.45.88.07H
D 1.61.00.00

[jon_k]

For what i know, you can do till 100.000 write operations to NAND flash, so don't care about the number of flash you make ;)

The real risk if not having the HardSPL...

Cheers.

100 write operations isn't very much. I don't know why you tried to make it look bigger by adding decimal places of 0.

100,000 is more reasonable. (I understand you probably live in a euro country in which . is the seperator for digits. Heh.)

[schulzj]

I'm pretty sure there's a way around flashing a device that's had the power cut half way through. You can still get to the bootloader and flash again. Something to do with MTTY...if I remember rightly.

Could be wrong though.


From personal experience, I was flashing on my computer and about half way throught the flash my computer reset, BSoD. So natural, I freaked, but remained calm enough to keep the phone plugged in. Once the system started back up I re-opened the rom file and everything worked fine. Maybe a fluke, but this is first hand testimony that it's not the end of the world if it happens.

[Gibbs]

Reading this thread today has been good for a few laughs.

I AM the wife, so my husband is the person who complains about me spending time flashing new ROMs to my tilt! :D

[T-MobTim]

I AM the wife, so my husband is the person who complains about me spending time flashing new ROMs to my tilt! :D


DAMN! You're already taken... =)

[gasman858]

One of the things I worry about with flashing addiction is bad NAND blocks. Some versions of HardSPL like this one for the Hermes: OliPro's HardSPL 2.10 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296722) appears to be quite a bit more advanced than the Kaiser version in that it can perform "task 2a" (from mtty?) which can repair bad blocks - see below. I am not mtty-savvy enough to determine whether the Kaiser version can perform these functions and I don't know if these versions are device or platform specific... Nor am I brave enough to find out on my own Tilt.

Hard-SPL-2.10 (V7)
CURRENT FEATURES
-SuperCID
-no file signing required
-no password required to authenticate with bootloader
-bad NAND can be recovered with "task 2a"
-bad NAND can be recovered by flashing an OS
-SPL protected from all HTC retail SPLs being flashed by accident (to bypass, use SSPL)
-IPL protected from all flashes; protection against bogus NBH's
-bad NAND can again be checked for with "info 8"
-version displays 2.10.Olipro
-no longer tries to read bad NAND - should fix whitescreen issue

Here is the file for the HERMES if anyone wants to peek at it. Perhaps some of the features could be copied into the Kaiser version.
Cheers-

[HHumbert]

Holy crap! I thought I was the only one that was having issues with being on this site and the wifey getting all moody!

Maybe it was my response to her when she said to me "well since you spend so much time on that site and flicking and flashing that stupid phone then why don't you go live with it since you're always playing with it"

jb

Not commenting on your last name, but Mexican girl? I have one, and this is word-for-word, exactly what she would say.

-Humbert

[tacticalmedicokc]

I'll have to have a chat with my wife. I didn't realize that she was married to all these other people too. Not cool!

[lindsaydr]

Hi
I had a Vario 3 which i had flashed quite a few ROMs to including 6.0 and 6.1 versions. After 3 months, the phone refused to connect to t-mobile 3g and i was reduced to using GPRS only. I have since returned this phone to factory rom and SPL version before switching the handset with a new one. My question is, would the problems be related to ROM flashing and if i was to start flashing my new Vario 3 would i have the same issues?

Thanks

[Geezer]

I've got a T-Mobile MDA Vario III, a PC with Win2k and MS-Activesync 4.5
Synchronization worked fine with WM6.0 but ceased to work properly after upgrade to WM6.1
I've used a HTC shipped ROM - RUU_Kaiser_HTC_PLK_3.29.464.0_radio_sign_25.83.40. 02_1.65.16.25_Ship.zip

Everything went smoothly but now I get this strange sync:
> NOT ALL of my calendar entries go from Outlook to my Kaiser
> NOT ALL of my contacts go from Outlook to my Kaiser
> NONE of my tasks go from Outlook to my Kaiser

It's really annoying... :(

---------------
I guess I'll have to help myself...

It seems a GLOBAL issue that WM6.1 and ActiveSync 4.5 (+ Outlook) don't collaborate properly. Contacts or calendar appointments which include some NOTES do not get synchronised !
http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.aspx?dg=microsoft.public.pocketpc.activesy nc

MS does nothing to release a new version of its sync tool...

[richabi]

Holy crap! I thought I was the only one that was having issues with being on this site and the wifey getting all moody!

Maybe it was my response to her when she said to me "well since you spend so much time on that site and flicking and flashing that stupid phone then why don't you go live with it since you're always playing with it"

My response: "Maybe I will!...if only dutty can make a ROM for women then I would have more fun playing with you! Every time I get tired of you I would just flash a new ROM and have a totally different girl on the inside but the same beautiful exterior on the outside"

That comment landed me on the couch hence the reason why I'm posting at 2:20am...haahhah

jb

that is totally something i could say hahaha. a man can dream, right?

[darocsfinest1]

It Voids Your Contract!!!

[AllTheWay]

It Voids Your Contract!!!


Not if you return your phone with factory / default configuration :)

[raiisak]

Not if you return your phone with factory / default configuration :)

Aye, its called hiding evidence hehe. But its like ATW says, just search up the propper tread and rollback everything. I had my P4350 fixed last year and I was riding custom, just whent backt to stock :D

[mikeeey]

lol the title makes it sound like long-term effects of a drug or something on your phone.

[fergusstrachan]

God I'm so glad I don't spend too much on this site. If I ever start comparing my devices to my wife/GF you can shoot me. :-)