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kareem9nba
02-12-2007, 08:05 AM
I was watching Transformers yesterday and today i watched another movie on my tilt. I realized that the movie lags a bit and quality isn't that good. The movies are dvdrips, however when playing you can see a lot of blurry squares at times. Also the sound is horrible. The sound about half a second later after the character actually mouths what is being said. So i can i fix these two problems? I am using TCPMP so any help with the settings on how to solve the issues would be great. Thanks
UnicornKaz
02-12-2007, 08:56 AM
Join the crowd here & sign the petition ;)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=342500
Farsquidge
02-12-2007, 09:17 AM
I know people here are saying they are having media problems with the Kaiser and the video hardware could be implemented better, but I must have a different WM device because I don't have half of these problems!
First of all check the file you have converted by watching it on your PC. Some freeware conversion packages are crap and audio lagging and 'blocking' are present in the converted files.
Secondly, make sure you have converted to a reasonable screen resolution and frame rate. Playing anything above a 640x480 res on any PDA causes it to convert 'on the fly' and slows down playback.
I have many films in avi (not DivX!) format on a WLHDD2.5 wireless HDD and can play them very well over WiFi (use Resco Explorer to access network drive).
FDARCE
29-01-2008, 06:10 AM
Hello Kareem I Just Read Your Post And I Have A Question , How Can You Download A Movie To Your Tilt I Have One And Im Having Trouble With That , And Do You Know A Good Website ? I Tried Vongo But They Told Me That The Tilt Does Not Work With Them. Thank You Very Much!!
yzf750
29-01-2008, 06:30 AM
I know people here are saying they are having media problems with the Kaiser and the video hardware could be implemented better, but I must have a different WM device because I don't have half of these problems!
First of all check the file you have converted by watching it on your PC. Some freeware conversion packages are crap and audio lagging and 'blocking' are present in the converted files.
Secondly, make sure you have converted to a reasonable screen resolution and frame rate. Playing anything above a 640x480 res on any PDA causes it to convert 'on the fly' and slows down playback.
I have many films in avi (not DivX!) format on a WLHDD2.5 wireless HDD and can play them very well over WiFi (use Resco Explorer to access network drive).
Amen, If you re encode movies correctly they play just fine on a tilt. I watch mine all the time even with BT headphones on which stress the cpu and the tilt even more. I change the audio sync to -0.500 for the headphones and -0.250 for regular viewing in coreplayer and the audio and video is perfectly in sync. I tryed the new version of coreplayer and the quality is superb. I quess thats why I have a dvd player also. I really dont need to watch a 4 gig dvd file on my tilt when a few minutes encoding it properly works just fine to throw it on my 6 gig sd card at a puny 250 meg file then. I have no skips, artifacts, or crappy picture. Most people are amazed when they see it playing on my tilts screen. Its a ppc phone. If I want a cinematic experince, I fire up my HD dlp projector and watch it on the 12 foot screen at home.
kareem9nba
29-01-2008, 06:34 AM
Me too :D. I'm watching live free or die hard now. Have seen about 3 movies on my Tilt and s9 headphones and it's great! PM me if you want the link for the movie(s).
Farsquidge
29-01-2008, 06:38 AM
Hello Kareem I Just Read Your Post And I Have A Question , How Can You Download A Movie To Your Tilt I Have One And Im Having Trouble With That , And Do You Know A Good Website ? I Tried Vongo But They Told Me That The Tilt Does Not Work With Them. Thank You Very Much!!
Wow, must have dug deep to find this old thread!! :)
kareem9nba
29-01-2008, 07:02 AM
lol, that's what i realized to. I saw transformers like a couple months back! Now watching other movies.
Audio
29-01-2008, 07:22 AM
Re-encoding and audio syncing covered in this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=357330)
246810
29-01-2008, 07:52 AM
Hello Kareem I Just Read Your Post And I Have A Question , How Can You Download A Movie To Your Tilt I Have One And Im Having Trouble With That , And Do You Know A Good Website ? I Tried Vongo But They Told Me That The Tilt Does Not Work With Them. Thank You Very Much!!
Although not addressed to me, you ought to convert a dvd that you already have, or rip if off a website first. In order to convert a dvd movie, you do need conversion software. There are literally numerous recommended software to enable you to do this.
Although this one is not perfect, I use a software called 'super' on my laptop. It is freeware by the way and probably is not as top notch as paid for products. I've also never converted a full movie length video as well, just clips. But I assume it would work.
Once its converted, copy the converted movie to your memory card (if you have one) or your device. (The former is more ideal however)
I think it has also been inferred that you don't have to have conversion software to play a dvd movie on your device, but it will consume alot of your memory if you put a 700MB movie on your device
Audio
29-01-2008, 08:15 AM
Which is why you use software such as Ashampoo Movie Shrink & Burn to shrink the file down to 320 x 240, turning an 800MB file to 200MB.
Also with Ashampoo, you can tell it what size you're aiming for, so if you want the file to shrink to 100MB, it will tell you what sort of quality it will be. but I usually shrink mine down to between 170MB - 300MB, depending on the length of the film.
Farsquidge
29-01-2008, 08:29 AM
Which is why you use software such as Ashampoo Movie Shrink & Burn to shrink the file down to 320 x 240, turning an 800MB file to 200MB.
Also with Ashampoo, you can tell it what size you're aiming for, so if you want the file to shrink to 100MB, it will tell you what sort of quality it will be. but I usually shrink mine down to between 170MB - 300MB, depending on the length of the film.
Audio..I have never tried Ashampoo, you have me intriged now as I usually two a two step process.
Cheers. :)
246810
29-01-2008, 09:08 AM
Audio,
How is the video playback when you shrink your movie down to 170MB - 300MB? Do you get lags and a lip sync effect?
Audio
29-01-2008, 09:16 AM
Video playback is fine. No lag, it's just like watching a standard movie on a tiny screen :). I have my audio synced at -200 in TCPMP which solves any delay. Everything can be found in this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=357330)
246810
29-01-2008, 09:32 AM
Video playback is fine. No lag, it's just like watching a standard movie on a tiny screen :). I have my audio synced at -200 in TCPMP which solves any delay. Everything can be found in this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=357330)
Thanks for this Audio! I'm about to try it now
One more question, do you use Ashampoo Movie and Shrink or Kingdia Video Converter? On this thread you mentioned Ashampoo, and on the other thread you mentioned Kingdia Video Converter
Audio
29-01-2008, 09:40 AM
I use Kingdia to convert my files to .avi format, then Ashampoo to shrink them down to 320 x 240. Although thinking about it, i've never actually tried to shrink any other type of file format using ashampoo, perhaps you can shrink .mp4/.wmv/etc straight to .avi using ashampoo, give a try and let me know!
246810
29-01-2008, 09:51 AM
I use Kingdia to convert my files to .avi format, then Ashampoo to shrink them down to 320 x 240. Although thinking about it, i've never actually tried to shrink any other type of file format using ashampoo, perhaps you can shrink .mp4/.wmv/etc straight to .avi using ashampoo, give a try and let me know!
I should have your read your first post in the other thread properly. Yes, I see why you use both Ashampoo and Kingdia. I'll try it. May take me a while though
I don't normally have my video clips at AVI format. I normally have it a 3GP or MPG. Why AVI?
"I have my audio synced at -200 in TCPMP which solves any delay. Everything can be found in this thread"
I was wondering if to sync your audio at -200, do you have to go to 'Settings' and then 'buffering' and then change the figure in 'preload for audio' to '-200 kb'
Audio
29-01-2008, 10:04 AM
Well I use .avi as it's good compression, you could have a film in .wmv that is about 2GB, whereas in .avi it'd only be 700MB.
As for your seconf question, to sync your audio in TCPMP, go to Options > Select Page > Advanced, and you're looking for the "Manual A/V offset +/-" box. And I actually lied, mine's currently set to -270, not - 200. But it depends how much faster your eyes work compared to your ears :)
246810
29-01-2008, 10:30 AM
Well I use .avi as it's good compression, you could have a film in .wmv that is about 2GB, whereas in .avi it'd only be 700MB.
As for your seconf question, to sync your audio in TCPMP, go to Options > Select Page > Advanced, and you're looking for the "Manual A/V offset +/-" box. And I actually lied, mine's currently set to -270, not - 200. But it depends how much faster your eyes work compared to your ears :)
I'll be putting those values in now. Thanks again. But I still would have thought converting a movie to '3GP' would save alot more space, but the quality of the video would probably be poorer. I've noticed this when using the programme 'Super' to convert video clips to 3GP in comparison to converting the very same video clips to MPG. I assume that AVI and MPG file sizes can't be too different...
And I just stumbled upon this in your other thread:
Hi plchan,
to be perfectly honest, I've no idea how other file types play, as all the films I "Source" are mostly .avi's anyway. However TCPMP has codec for loads of different file types, so I don't see a problem with Shrinking different file types straight to 320 x 240.
I'll try keeping the video type to its original if TCPMP will play it anyway. Plus, the quality of the video always detoriate whenever you encode.
A random question- In your sig, I notice you are endorsing 'mini opera'. I was wondering which out of 'mini opera' or 'mobile opera' is the better for a kaiser
Audio
29-01-2008, 11:09 AM
For web browser's, you're probably better off reading this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=360716). The reason I use Opera Mini, is because I enjoy the zoom ability that you get. I.E when you open a webpage, you see all the webpage, then you can just press on the bit you want to zoom into. But the minute Opera Mobile 9 comes out, I'll be getting it :). That Skyfire that's made an appearance also seems to look VERY interesting, probably going to be a good competitor for Opera Mobile 9, as is Microsoft's Deepfish browser. It's all very exciting.... lol.
ellergek
29-01-2008, 12:46 PM
I use a product called "Wondershare Pocket DVD Ripper" (which is part of a suite that also includes "Wondershare Pocket Video Converter") to rip DVD's and I am very happy with the results. Also, I have noticed that when syncing a movie via "Windows Media Player" that some type of compression occurrs. For example, I recently ripped "The Bourne Ultimatum" and ended up with a 691 MB file. However, when syncing, Windows Media PLayer performs some type of conversion, and the resulting file on my TYTN II is only 295 MB. I rip them at 30 FPS and view using the new CorePLayer with nice results. I have also then used Ashampoo to convert these to MPEG 4.
246810
29-01-2008, 01:04 PM
I use a product called "Wondershare Pocket DVD Ripper" (which is part of a suite that also includes "Wondershare Pocket Video Converter") to rip DVD's and I am very happy with the results. Also, I have noticed that when syncing a movie via "Windows Media Player" that some type of compression occurrs. For example, I recently ripped "The Bourne Ultimatum" and ended up with a 691 MB file. However, when syncing, Windows Media PLayer performs some type of conversion, and the resulting file on my TYTN II is only 295 MB. I rip them at 30 FPS and view using the new CorePLayer with nice results. I have also then used Ashampoo to convert these to MPEG 4.
How did you know how many frames per second you should convert your movie to?
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