M600 W800 Cannot receiving SMS, only send SMS!!!. Rom available.

[jjae6]

My name is jjae6, and I have some experience with pna (acer d100) in another forum (spanish)

I bought one of these mobile. cectc w800 ????¿¿¿¿
http://cgi.ebay.es/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=140181272179

This mobile seems Artemis P800 model or htc P330 model o Dopod W800 or Cect model, but and "Control Panel -System" mark M600 ??¿¿¿ Artemis M600????, the system is a windows mobile 5 english.

In phone -Settings- Services i select "Voice Mail and text messages" and the system returns with "get seetings" the number service center....all ok.

I have access to the SIM system .. SIM contacts, I do voice calls and receive voice calls, gps ok, all ok.. except...

1 found 1 problem: cannot receive SMS!!! with "Messaging Program" (only send ok)

I try this : the sms found (receive) via "SIM manager" program ,but not displayed in INBOX folder Automatically of "Messaging" program. ¿¿¿????

I think it must be a software problem (bad rom update WM5 english) or settings missing in the registry...., Or anything else corruption or fault software.... Sim manager, tmail or another dll

He made hard reset, reset, remove battery, and I installed other SMS readers and sender, but all are based on "tmail" system....

I even installed another mail handler "tmail" independently: "flexmail" and the same, cannot receiving SMS, only send SMS!!!.

Does anyone know how to fix this? (sms inbox cannot receive) .

I searched all over the forum and I have not found anything. Are there other models that will pass something similar?

I have done a ROM DUMP (itsutils pdocread) if someone wants to see.., znd I can also search the registry. Please help.

Any solution, Please.

Excuse my bad english.

Thanks.
jjae6

[jjae6]

Here is my system rom dump
I think that is not like anything in a artemis system...¿¿???
I think it is a system based on ETEN rather than a artemis... At control panel system mark M600 and the default programs installed write PREI-ETEN...
and In bootloader section, there is a hex mark that puts
"G500 Booter(LB) v0.2 (for PCB v.0.4) Build Date: Nov 22 2005 Total 64MB DRAM Total ??MB DRAM Total 32MB DRAM ..."


#1. Someone I can help with the issue of SMS reception? Thanks.
and
#2. This ppc is a Artemis or Eten system?

Thanks.


Heres is my W800 system Registry::
http://rapidshare.com/files/75575299/registryw800.zip.html

Rom and boot loader backup:
http://rapidshare.com/files/75574602/romW800.zip.html


============my rom part list================================

C:\itsutils>pdocread -l

118.13M (0x7620000) FLASHDR
| 1.87M (0x1dfc00) Part00
| 1.63M (0x1a0000) Part01
| 35.88M (0x23e0000) Part02
| 78.75M (0x4ec0000) Part03
952.50M (0x3b880000) DSK1:
| 952.44M (0x3b86fe00) Part00
STRG handles:
handle e352beba952.44M (0x3b86fe00)
handle 63a3bc16 78.75M (0x4ec0000)
handle a3a3b502 35.88M (0x23e0000)
handle a3a3b3fa 1.63M (0x1a0000)
handle a3a3b2d2 1.87M (0x1dfc00)
disk e352beba
0 partitions, 0 binary partitions
customerid=00000000 uniqueid= 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
disk 63a3bc16
0 partitions, 0 binary partitions
customerid=00000000 uniqueid= 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
disk a3a3b502
0 partitions, 0 binary partitions
customerid=00000000 uniqueid= 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
disk a3a3b3fa
0 partitions, 0 binary partitions
customerid=00000000 uniqueid= 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
disk a3a3b2d2
0 partitions, 0 binary partitions
customerid=00000000 uniqueid= 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

==============my rom backup=================================

C:\itsutils>pdocread -w -h 0x63a3bc16 0 0x4ec0000 part3.nb

C:\itsutils>pdocread -w -h 0xa3a3b502 0 0x23e0000 part2.nb

C:\itsutils>pdocread -w -h 0xa3a3b3fa 0 0x1a0000 part1.nb

C:\itsutils>pdocread -w -h 0xa3a3b2d2 0 0x1dfc00 part0.nb




EDITED AT 02/26/2008:
In subsequent posts clarifies that the seller Chinese have loaded a original ETEN G500 ROM in a different hardware (Cect? W800), almost that does not work.....

[ikar]

I have the same problem with sms. In my cect w800 don't work reset switch. I think cect w800 it's clone of eten g500

[aot]

So no way to upgrade to WM6? I have a problem once do a soft reset by reset button , Mobile doesn't work until you remove the battery and put back. Anyone help . The system says M600 . CPU samsung 400MHz ROM 128M SDram 64M.
Appreciate your help

[ikar]

So no way to upgrade to WM6? I have a problem once do a soft reset by reset button , Mobile doesn't work until you remove the battery and put back. Anyone help . The system says M600 . CPU samsung 400MHz ROM 128M SDram 64M.
Appreciate your help

My w800 has the same problems.
After software reset devices: RIL1, GSM7, GSM9 are unloaded. Manual start don't work.

[jjae6]

I have the same problem with sms. In my cect w800 don't work reset switch. I think cect w800 it's clone of eten g500

He made several roms dumps from binary file:. (eten m500, m600, m700 and w800 system)

I read the contents of these files through a hex editor

#1. m500_wm5 and file:Rilgsm.dll
d:\wm511\platform\m500\src\drivers\rilgsm\atcmd.cp p

#2. m600_spanish215 and file:Rilgsm.dll
d:\wm511\platform\m600\src\drivers\rilgsm\atcmd.cp p

#3. M700_WWE_0354 and file: RilgsmAKU3.dll
g:\wm530\platform\mn1\platform\mainstoneii\src\dri vers\rilgsmaku2_net_20061226\ttpcom\gsm\atcmd.cpp

And finally:

#4 W800 and file:Rilgsm.dll
e:\wm522\platform\m600\src\drivers\rilgsmaku2\atcm d.cpp

Comparing other files, I can say it is based on a system M600, but without WiFi, and possibly with other distribution chip hardware.

I have read in this forum and eten: and even the M700 and X500 Eten systems have problems receiving messages, I found some patches that replace some files: rilgsm and mux. Patch for those systems M700 and X500, but not operate in the W800.

That's all for now.
jjae6.

[jengitsme]

Hi everybody,
I have an w800 too, to get the sms try at "SIM Manager" and then touch on "Menu"/"SMS Management"
I have Spanish version with WM5, have you guys discovered how to put WM6 on it?
What do you think it will happen if i install an htc p3300 rom on it (it may not have the same hardware)? i would like to upgrade to wm6 with b&b, but i'm afraid if i install it, it won't work the xda at all
I have made a rom backup up with itsutils, do you think i will be able to recover the xda with it if things go wrong? (i don't know how to use that .pak files...)

Hope the info would be useful to you.
Thanks for your replies!

[aot]

This W800 has peculiar problem. Once you do a soft reset the GSM fails to come back up until battery is removed and put back. Any one knows this issue and any fix? Also the voice quality is not that good and takes quite some time may be 10mins to sync up with GPS program. Gps is detected by sync up with satellite takes 5 to 10mins sometimes even longer

[samsungq1]

Hi,

I too have the CECT W800 also bought of ebay. I have it on the virgin network in the UK and all ok so far. I've also tried it on Orange network with no problem sending and recieving texts. I have noticed a few times it does lose signal and it wont come back on till i remove and replace the battery. Does any know of a way to power off the CECT W800 without having to remove the battery?

I too want to try different roms but i'm afraid to try them incase they damage the CECT W800 or i cant get it back to original settings if they go wrong.

Has anyone else in the UK got one of these phones?

Thanks,

Mick

[ikar]

Hi,

I too have the CECT W800 also bought of ebay. I have it on the virgin network in the UK and all ok so far. I've also tried it on Orange network with no problem sending and recieving texts. I have noticed a few times it does lose signal and it wont come back on till i remove and replace the battery. Does any know of a way to power off the CECT W800 without having to remove the battery?

I too want to try different roms but i'm afraid to try them incase they damage the CECT W800 or i cant get it back to original settings if they go wrong.

Has anyone else in the UK got one of these phones?

Thanks,

Mick

Mick back up Your registry and send us (me) please.
Use http://ceregeditor.mdsoft.pl/ceregedit_setup.exe

[samsungq1]

Hi Ikar,

How do i back up my registry and send it to you? send me details how to do it and i'll send them to you.

thanks,

Mick.

[ikar]

Hi Ikar,

How do i back up my registry and send it to you? send me details how to do it and i'll send them to you.

thanks,

Mick.

Install and run CeRegEditor (http://ceregeditor.mdsoft.pl/ceregedit_setup.exe). Connect your w800 to pc - click conection -connect,and now click tools - create image backup - save image to file.
Back up your registry and upload it on http://rapidshare.com/

[ikar]

I try sms tests with sim card from another operator (orange pl) - settings automatic.
Sms works fine . Problem is in sim card ?

[samsungq1]

Hi Ikar,

I've done registry back up and uploaded it onto my PC, is it quite safe to upload it onto rapidshare? will anyone be able to get into my private details such as my contacts?

[ikar]

Don't upload your registry. I think we have the same registry and firmware. SMs in my cect works
great with another sim card (orange pl)

[samsungq1]

I'm pleased you have got SMS working now Ikar.

I've just put FTouchFlo Cube on mine but dont know how to get it working.

Anyone help pls?

Thanks

Mick

[jjae6]

I try sms tests with sim card from another operator (orange pl) - settings automatic.
Sms works fine . Problem is in sim card ?

I tried to 3 Vodafone Spain SIM.
Even I asked Vodafone with a new sim, and appears the same mistake, only sends sms, not receiving!!!.
Vodafone Spain said his SMS Vodafone Server is configured well, and should be a terminal problem. ???¿¿¿ Soft or hard problem ¿¿??

I have good news:
I got my ROM dump (w800) and compare with another dump (eten m600+), and is practically a ROM copy of eten M600+, but seeing the plastic casing outside, it looks like another model (HTC p3300)


Ikar, can you write in this forum, your windows mobile version? (Start - Settings - System Tab - About)
My system is WM5.0 ver OS 5.1.195 (Build 14928.2.2.0). Thanks.


Best Regards.
jjae6

[ikar]

I tried to 3 Vodafone Spain SIM.
Even I asked Vodafone with a new sim, and appears the same mistake, only sends sms, not receiving!!!.
Vodafone Spain said his SMS Vodafone Server is configured well, and should be a terminal problem. ???¿¿¿ Soft or hard problem ¿¿??

I have good news:
I got my ROM dump (w800) and compare with another dump (eten m600+), and is practically a ROM copy of eten M600+, but seeing the plastic casing outside, it looks like another model (HTC p3300)


Ikar, can you write in this forum, your windows mobile version? (Start - Settings - System Tab - About)
My system is WM5.0 ver OS 5.1.195 (Build 14928.2.2.0). Thanks.


Best Regards.
jjae6


My system is the same:
OS 5.1.195 build 14928.2.2.0

[jengitsme]

I have the same problem with my w800, if the battery gets empty and i turn on the phone again it does not get any signal until battery is removed... if you can solve the problem, please tell me.
Have you tried to look for your new sms at "SIM Manager" and then on "Menu"/"SMS Management", i think you can get your new sms, but the phone does not give any advice about new messages.
My system version is the same as yours.
Do you think a eten m600+ rom will work on the cect w800? i would like to put wm6 on my terminal...
I have found that the "cect w800" is also known as "zhi zun w800"
I have uploaded a registry backup of the CECT W800 REGISTRY for those who want to help us here: http://rapidshare.com/files/80283810/Registry_backup_image_CECT_W800.ceimg.html

[jjae6]

I have the same problem with my w800, if the battery gets empty and i turn on the phone again it does not get any signal until battery is removed... if you can solve the problem, please tell me.
Have you tried to look for your new sms at "SIM Manager" and then on "Menu"/"SMS Management", i think you can get your new sms, but the phone does not give any advice about new messages.
My system version is the same as yours.
Do you think a eten m600+ rom will work on the cect w800? i would like to put wm6 on my terminal...
I have found that the "cect w800" is also known as "zhi zun w800"
I have uploaded a registry backup of the CECT W800 REGISTRY for those who want to help us here: http://rapidshare.com/files/80283810/Registry_backup_image_CECT_W800.ceimg.html

Yes, in the first announcement I write that: only works with simmanager.
The Rom M600+ files... appear to be the same W800 rom files... but certainly within the "bootloader mode" will not let you enter and update another ROM (m600+)... Because a hardware model W800 verification...

and What is the company of your SIM? Vodafone?

Best Regards.

P.D: you have a private message in Spanish (quehacemoslosdosaquíhablandoeningles ;-) ).

[ikar]

I tried to 3 Vodafone Spain SIM.
Even I asked Vodafone with a new sim, and appears the same mistake, only sends sms, not receiving!!!.
Vodafone Spain said his SMS Vodafone Server is configured well, and should be a terminal problem. ???¿¿¿ Soft or hard problem ¿¿??

I have good news:
I got my ROM dump (w800) and compare with another dump (eten m600+), and is practically a ROM copy of eten M600+, but seeing the plastic casing outside, it looks like another model (HTC p3300)


Ikar, can you write in this forum, your windows mobile version? (Start - Settings - System Tab - About)
My system is WM5.0 ver OS 5.1.195 (Build 14928.2.2.0). Thanks.


Best Regards.
jjae6

Are You sure - rom w800 is copy of rom eten m600+?
There isn't gps in M600+.

[ikar]

Is fm radio working in your w800 ?

[jengitsme]

I haven't tried using the fm radio, but i have read that you must plug the earphones because it's the radio's antenna.

[ikar]

I haven't tried using the fm radio, but i have read that you must plug the earphones because it's the radio's antenna.

Try plugin headphones and run radio program.

[ikar]

My cect w800 (icool w800) rom backup:

C:\itsutils>pdocread.exe -l
118.13M (0x7620000) FLASHDR
| 1.87M (0x1dfc00) Part00
| 1.63M (0x1a0000) Part01
| 35.88M (0x23e0000) Part02
| 78.75M (0x4ec0000) Part03
952.50M (0x3b880000) DSK1:
| 952.44M (0x3b86fe00) Part00
STRG handles:
handle 63a7a8f2952.44M (0x3b86fe00)
handle 63aa5f92ERROR: ITTFFSGetInfo - The parameter is incorrect.

WARNING: using default 512 bytes for sectorsize

handle 63a3bc46 78.75M (0x4ec0000)
handle 23a3b552 35.88M (0x23e0000)
handle e3a3b44a 1.63M (0x1a0000)
handle c3a3b2d2 1.87M (0x1dfc00)
disk 63a7a8f2
0 partitions, 0 binary partitions
customerid=00000000 uniqueid= 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
disk 63aa5f92ERROR: ITTFFSGetInfo - The parameter is incorrect.

disk 63a3bc46
0 partitions, 0 binary partitions
customerid=00000000 uniqueid= 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
disk 23a3b552
0 partitions, 0 binary partitions
customerid=00000000 uniqueid= 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
disk e3a3b44a
0 partitions, 0 binary partitions
customerid=00000000 uniqueid= 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
disk c3a3b2d2
0 partitions, 0 binary partitions
customerid=00000000 uniqueid= 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00


C:\itsutils>pdocread -w -d FLASHDR -p Part00 0 0x1dfc00 Part00.raw
CopyTFFSToFile(0x0, 0x1dfc00, Part00.raw)

C:\itsutils>pdocread -w -d FLASHDR -p Part00 0 0x1dfc00 Part00.raw
CopyTFFSToFile(0x0, 0x1dfc00, Part00.raw)

C:\itsutils>pdocread -w -d FLASHDR -p Part00 0 0x1dfc00 Part00.raw
CopyTFFSToFile(0x0, 0x1dfc00, Part00.raw)

C:\itsutils>pdocread -w -d FLASHDR -p Part01 0 0x1a0000 Part01.raw
CopyTFFSToFile(0x0, 0x1a0000, Part01.raw)

C:\itsutils>pdocread -w -d FLASHDR -p Part02 0 0x23e0000 Part02.raw
CopyTFFSToFile(0x0, 0x23e0000, Part02.raw)

C:\itsutils>pdocread -w -d FLASHDR -p Part03 0 0x4ec0000 Part03.raw
CopyTFFSToFile(0x0, 0x4ec0000, Part03.raw)

C:\itsutils>

links:
http://rapidshare.com/files/80369254/Part00.raw.html - part00.raw
http://rapidshare.com/files/80369654/Part01.raw.html - part01.raw
http://rapidshare.com/files/80373139/Part02.raw.html - part02.raw
http://rapidshare.com/files/80380345/Part03.raw.html - part03.raw

[jengitsme]

I also made that rom backup, but does anybody know how to put it back into the device in case of installing a wrong ROM? or something?

[dAV84]

Hello i buy from ebay my w800


Can you change language for other? spanish?, french? italian?

It's a copy of HTC P3300 or ETEN M600?

Can you flash with WM6? in language?

Thanks

[dAV84]

http://www.flashgsm.ro/index.php?id_brand=117&id=2970&nume_model=Zhi%20Zun%20Bao%20W800%20PDA

[samsungq1]

Hi Ikar,

My FM radio wont work either, its first time i tried it since i got it. I've also noticed some of the preinstalled programs have the word ETEN before their names. If you go into the and and remove programs they ae listed there.

They are,

ETEN OEM Customization,
ETEN GPS Indicator,
ETEN FM Tuner,

Is there another FM tuner we could download and try using the supplied headphones?

[jengitsme]

My w800 does not come with any program with ETEN word on them, it does not come with any extra applicacion i think...
In wich language is your wm version? Mine is Spanish.

[jjae6]

My cect w800 (icool w800) rom backup:

C:\itsutils>pdocread.exe -l
118.13M (0x7620000) FLASHDR
| 1.87M (0x1dfc00) Part00
| 1.63M (0x1a0000) Part01
| 35.88M (0x23e0000) Part02
| 78.75M (0x4ec0000) Part03
952.50M (0x3b880000) DSK1:
| 952.44M (0x3b86fe00) Part00
STRG handles:
handle 63a7a8f2952.44M (0x3b86fe00)
handle 63aa5f92ERROR: ITTFFSGetInfo - The parameter is incorrect.


Hi ikar, I now downloading & Unpacking & testing your dump version.
Note: Pdocread show in your console ROM backup "The parameter is incorrect", this is due to pdocread looking for a extendend partition TrueFFS, and the W800 does not exist this partition (that is correct)


Are You sure - rom w800 is copy of rom eten m600+?
There isn't gps in M600+.


Not absolutely, I think w800 is based on the same base M600+ source code.

The file rilgsm.dll of M600+ version show:
d:\wm522\platform\m600\src\drivers\rilgsmaku2\atcm d.cpp

And all the files I dump so far are identical. (also etmux.dll )

[jjae6]

HOW TO: Replace / add a file in Windows folder.
======================================
Copy the .cab file to /SDMMC and install in your W800.
This .cab install a "Privileged Execution Trust Authorities".

Now, for example, you can copy a "tmail.exe" different, and copy over the old file tmail.exe

Also this procedure allows testing with another files, .. differents etmux.dll or rilgsm.dll... but I must say that ... By now I failed to receive SMS with the file changes. (various rilgsm and *mux.dll)

http://rapidshare.com/files/80669496/sdkcerts.cab.html

DANGER: to undo, we must make a hardreset

[jjae6]

I also made that rom backup, but does anybody know how to put it back into the device in case of installing a wrong ROM? or something?

Yes i have the dump.... but I even cooked the reverse process ( With files found on the forum eten.)
...I got to cocking a ROM ETEN type file, but in bootloader mode does not recognize as the system (W800 rom system), because in bootloader mode, it checks your hardware W800 version with the new create W800 software... and rejects the update operation.( W800 is based on the M600 +, but not the same thing)

That is, by now, I do not know a cook rom that the W800 system supports.

[dAV84]

Mine is in english

I search a French or a Spanish version to change language

can i change only the WM5 or to WM6 in other language?

[difylos]

I have the same problem with my w800, if the battery gets empty and i turn on the phone again it does not get any signal until battery is removed... if you can solve the problem, please tell me.
Has anyone fixed this problem yet ;

[metro202w]

I seem to be having the same issues with the battery and SMS messages. However, I know I don't have the expertise to fix those problems, but I am desperately trying to find a cable USB driver for this device. I've been searching for days! Can any one help with this?

Thanks!

[ikar]

I seem to be having the same issues with the battery and SMS messages. However, I know I don't have the expertise to fix those problems, but I am desperately trying to find a cable USB driver for this device. I've been searching for days! Can any one help with this?

Thanks!

cable USB driver ? ??????????????????

[difylos]

You mean usb cable ;

[metro202w]

cable USB driver ? ??????????????????

Hello Ikar...What I mean is the phone has the capability to use as a modem connection for my Laptop. When I plug the phone in with Modem Link enabled, Windows does realize a connection has been made. However, it does not find a suitable driver to interact or talk to the device. I have tried to use the drivers for the HTC P3300, but with no success. This device is very confusing it has the characteristics of the P3300 but does it not understand the driver software for it.

Thanks!

[difylos]

Try Microsoft ActiveSync
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/activesync/activesync45.mspx

[metro202w]

Try Microsoft ActiveSync
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/activesync/activesync45.mspx


Active sync does work but will not work when the Modem Link is enabled. I have no problems syncing my device to windows. But the problem lies when I want to use my phone as a modem so that my Laptop can connect as a client.

[dAV84]

Our ICOOL W800 is considered a real copy of DOPOD P800W

http://www.kosarit.com/other-phone/similarity-high-100-pirated-mobile-phone-brand-impersonation-show.html

Then i now testig :confused: a ROM for ARTEMIS

At first i clean the ROM, but's how format it?

[jjae6]

Our ICOOL W800 is considered a real copy of DOPOD P800W

http://www.kosarit.com/other-phone/similarity-high-100-pirated-mobile-phone-brand-impersonation-show.html

Then i now testig :confused: a ROM for ARTEMIS

At first i clean the ROM, but's how format it?

No, only external case is a similiar copy.
I think W800 is based on ETEN M600 + hardware. (Eten M600+ rom files are equal )

And furthermore, I think that may have made or distributed by a Chinese company called CECT, but its is only an assumption.

[jjae6]

For all the people who have asked:
I found a usb modem driver for W800 !!!!! :-)
Now, WindowsXP recognizes W800 as a "M600 usb modem"
I will do more tests and write the results here.
jjae6

[nuso]

Hello to all,

I have been following this thread for some days because I bought this pda last year. Finaly, last week I received it but I'm sure it is faulty.

First, I cannot syncronize the pda with any pc. I installed active sync but when I connect the pda to the pc nothing happens. I verified the modem link is desactivated.

The GPS doesn't works. I cannot get valid GPS signal. TOMTOM is configured with "other NMEA GPS receiver", baud rate 9600 and to S2410 COM1.

The others problems are the ones reported by the users wrote here - receiving SMS, the radio and soft boot.

Can you please help me? I think I tried everything to solve the problems reported by me but anything works... I even tried to restore to the default settings but it didn't help. WM5 is in english.

Nuso.

[jjae6]

Hello to all,

I have been following this thread for some days because I bought this pda last year. Finaly, last week I received it but I'm sure it is faulty.

First, I cannot syncronize the pda with any pc. I installed active sync but when I connect the pda to the pc nothing happens. I verified the modem link is desactivated.

The GPS doesn't works. I cannot get valid GPS signal. TOMTOM is configured with "other NMEA GPS receiver", baud rate 9600 and to S2410 COM1.

The others problems are the ones reported by the users wrote here - receiving SMS, the radio and soft boot.

Can you please help me? I think I tried everything to solve the problems reported by me but anything works... I even tried to restore to the default settings but it didn't help. WM5 is in english.

Nuso.

I think we should return the phone to the seller now. (Telephone with a lot of problems.) But if you want, you can test it:

1.- Download and Install Activesync with same language in PC (english).
(turn off firewall and turn off Virus detector program)

2.- My application GPS works well with: NMEA - COM4 - 9600 bauds

3.- The phone does not receive sms is a known problem.
Manually workaround: Start - Programs - Phone - Simmmanger - Sms management.

4.- Fm radio: Not working either. (With headsets and without them.)

jjae6

[jjae6]

How to Recognize a "W800 usb modem driver" in Windows XP, for chinese W800 by jjae6
================================================== =============
What is usb modem driver?
Driver program allows for example, to connect your PC or Laptop with cable to the PDA, and through the PDA have an Internet connection via GSM/GPRS. (internet in your PC)

We assume that we have configured correctly W800 (with the data provider's GPRS and have access to the Internet in your explorer W800).
In my case the "modem link" program appears always in a continuous loop, and could not be accessed from XP.

The problem is without these notes, Windows XP does not recognize our PDA because W800 shows some internal software conflicts with modem link. ( W800 is a "perfect system" as everything that is expected of a Chinese clone. ;-) )

Here are the notes.

#1.- Disconnect the cable from the PC to PDA

#2.- In PC windows Xp:
- Activesync 4.5: " File" -"Connection Settings" - Uncheck the box "Allow USB connections"

#3.- In W800:
"Start"- "Settings" - "Connections" - "BEAM" - Uncheck the box "Receive all incoming messages" <--- Important.

#4.- In W800:
Now, execute Modem link- "Start" -"Programs" -"Modem Link"
Select in "Connection" "USB" and press "Activate"
If the system shows error, or an icon waiting appears (continuous loop) , make a W800 reboot and repeat process.
And so the system will remove activesync and other pda memory processes...

#5.- In PC
Well, NOW we connected the cable to the pda and PC....and WindowsXP display a new device detected....
Tell the hardware wizard: no search through the Internet. And we need to indicate the path to the folder where we saved the file "USBMDM.INF".
Windows will install the driver and surely we will reset XP.

If windows XP system reboot, now, deactivate Activesync as #2 point, disconnect and connect W800 cable to PC, and system show

"M600 usb modem"... (Internal Registry "VENDOR_ID and PRODUCT_ID" are identical to G500.) and ........W800 is detected ok.

jjae6

Excuse my bad english, I am Spanish and my English is self-taught.

edited: m600+ to G500

[nuso]

jjae6, thanks for the help but the main problems persists.

The GPS still cannot find any satellite. In settings -> System -> GPS, I have COM1 for the GPS program port, COM4 for the GPS hardware port with baud @ 9600, and with or withot the box checked in manage GPS automatically the TOMTOM don't show any satellites.

I still cannot connect PDA with PC, even after configuring PDA and PC as you said. I have windows xp in english, active sync in english and pda in english.
Modem link is not in look, as I see it is activated.

I think I will return it to the seller, because of the problems reported earlier.

What is a pda if I cannot use anything except for receive and make calls?

Muchas gracias por todo,
Nuso.

[jengitsme]

I couldn't make the gps work with tomtom, but i installed "mio map 3.2" and it works fine.
Be sure you are not inside a building or something when you try to get satellite signal.

[difylos]

Has anyone fixed this problem yet ;
If the battery gets empty and i turn on the phone again it does not get any signal until battery is removed.
im getting this error:
" a wireless radio must be attached to use the phone "

[nuso]

I couldn't make the gps work with tomtom, but i installed "mio map 3.2" and it works fine.
Be sure you are not inside a building or something when you try to get satellite signal.

Hello jengitsme,

can you please tell me where I can find that program? If possible post the ed2k or torrent link to it.

Can I install it without activesync?

Thanks.

[jjae6]

Has anyone fixed this problem yet ;
If the battery gets empty and i turn on the phone again it does not get any signal until battery is removed.
im getting this error:
" a wireless radio must be attached to use the phone "

My Tip for W800 phone:
Workaround: Before making a reset, disconnect the phone manually (turn on flight mode, It shows a cross ), and also remove the battery.
So the next time you boot will signal (recognizes and load the phone)

jjae6.

[jjae6]

This patch install new version of "sdmemory.dll" and "sdbus.dll" files.

Modus Operandi: decompress the zip on the PC.
1.- Copy and install sdhc.cab with activesync to W800.
or
2.- In your PC. execute SDHC.bat. (Of course connect the cable to W800)

and make a W800 Reset....

In the next boot, This .dll detects the new high-capacity micro SD cards.
(Tested with a 4gb SDhc)

jjae6.

[jcostantino]

Couple questions about this phone... I'm really on the fence because the price is so cheap (USD$270 w/ 1gig TF) and the next cheapest phone is the Mio A501 for $100 more. I've even found one seller for $250 w/o the 1 gig card - which I wouldn't use anyway.

Is this EDGE or just GPRS? What is the GPRS Class?

About the radios not coming back online, is it only when the battery runs out? I never let my phone run out of battery so it wouldn't really concern me but it would be irritating if it was a frequent thing.

How stable is the OS on this phone? Is it OK for day to day stuff or will I be fighting with it non-stop? Right now my Wizard is really showing its age and it'll lock up randomly in my pocket. It's also had significant problems staying connected to GPRS - it "forgets" the connection and needs to be reset often.

I'm very interested in this phone due to the price and features but to be honest, I'm REALLY leaning towards the Mio. For $100 more, I get quad-band, I know it's EDGE, all the applications in the phone tie into the GPS (SMS and photo are location aware and tag the coordinates), and I know who the Mio company is.

But I'm still interested in this because 100 bucks is still 100 bucks.

[mugglesquop]

hi, The Artemis is not EDGE. unsure about the class of GPRS, just Google it, or look on HTC website. The ROM is very stable, and you always have the option of putting a cooked ROM on if you dont like it :) I've personally never had a problem with the radio not connecting, and i've had the phone completely run out (back-up battery too lol). The only downside i have found is the crapness of the camera.

If you want another phone to look at to tempt you, have a look at the HTC Touch Cruise: http://www.htc.com/product/03-product_htctouch_cruise.htm

Good luck!

[jjae6]

After a long time, and many hours employees ....

I managed to upgrade the W800 with latest several roms (M600 source based system) from Eten rom original files, with several different results:

#1.- Rom M600 loaded in W800:
Results. No rom update because bootloader show Bad Id hardware, and stop by hardware check, because the w800 system has a modified bootloader of G500.

#2.- Rom M600+ loaded in W800:
Windows mobile boots with some failures, and show a displaced screen.

#3. - Rom G500+ loaded in W800:
Windows mobile boots and works, but does not recognize the microSD card (SDMMC not shown)

#4. Rom G500 (G500_WWE_0110) in W800:
Windows mobile boots and works perfectly
But you see the same mistake: not receiving sms.( The W800 ROM must be identical to G500 installed )

So, I saw the bootloader file shows some G500 texts...

So, NOW, I can say :

The W800 is a internal hardware clone of Eten G500 (If it is not the same)


That's all for now.
Excuse my bad english.

[testing123456789]

Hi,

I wonder what the dimensions of this phone are. Various ebay listings and sites provide all kinds of sizes: from the huge and heavy 119x62x23 mm, 191g to the thin and light 106X58X14MM, 107g.

So what are the real dimensions?

[jjae6]

Hi,

I wonder what the dimensions of this phone are. Various ebay listings and sites provide all kinds of sizes: from the huge and heavy 119x62x23 mm, 191g to the thin and light 106X58X14MM, 107g.

So what are the real dimensions?

Approx. 110 x 58 x 19 mm and 145g ( including battery),

I bought a HTC P3300 leather case, and fits perfectly....

Regards.

[jengitsme]

I have used that one:
ed2k://|file|MioMap_v3.2_(PDA)+mapas%20ESP.POR.WE+radares %20robser.rar|169917543|AFA467F7A8B5DFCF108584ACFE E6DA0C|/
but you must look for another one with the maps you want.

[ikar]

He made several roms dumps from binary file:. (eten m500, m600, m700 and w800 system)

I read the contents of these files through a hex editor

#1. m500_wm5 and file:Rilgsm.dll
d:\wm511\platform\m500\src\drivers\rilgsm\atcmd.cp p

#2. m600_spanish215 and file:Rilgsm.dll
d:\wm511\platform\m600\src\drivers\rilgsm\atcmd.cp p

#3. M700_WWE_0354 and file: RilgsmAKU3.dll
g:\wm530\platform\mn1\platform\mainstoneii\src\dri vers\rilgsmaku2_net_20061226\ttpcom\gsm\atcmd.cpp

And finally:

#4 W800 and file:Rilgsm.dll
e:\wm522\platform\m600\src\drivers\rilgsmaku2\atcm d.cpp

Comparing other files, I can say it is based on a system M600, but without WiFi, and possibly with other distribution chip hardware.

I have read in this forum and eten: and even the M700 and X500 Eten systems have problems receiving messages, I found some patches that replace some files: rilgsm and mux. Patch for those systems M700 and X500, but not operate in the W800.

That's all for now.
jjae6.

Maybe problem is in radio-rom, not in base rom ?

Jjae6 could you explain how backup and restore orginal w800 rom, and how change rom (g500_wwe_0110) ???
You try apply G500_BT_Audio_patch1_2 on rom g500_wwe_0110 ?
How rebuild cab G500_BT_Audio_patch1_2 to apply it on w800 ?

[difylos]

I am still getting this error
" a wireless radio must be attached to use the phone "
every time i make a soft reset and i must remove the battery and put it back in
else the phone is not working
:(

[jjae6]

Maybe problem is in radio-rom, not in base rom ?

Jjae6 could you explain how backup and restore orginal w800 rom, and how change rom (g500_wwe_0110) ???
You try apply G500_BT_Audio_patch1_2 on rom g500_wwe_0110 ?
How rebuild cab G500_BT_Audio_patch1_2 to apply it on w800 ?

I think that the Fm radio problem is due to the radio-ROM, radio-ROM independent of windows mobile rom (another rom)

I find a file called "G500_GPS_Firmware_Update.zip", this file update the GPS FM-ROM , I am studying this too.

----------------

Soon, I think, will make a tutorial for backup and restore A ROM W800 phone.


----------------

Well,
I have installed the patch, I see.. this "G500_BT_Audio_patch1_2(2).CAB" install a two files:

1.- A old "rilgsm_6db.dll" (downgrade?)
Internal hex shows a wm511 compilation for M600:
d:\wm511\platform\m600\src\drivers\rilgsm\atcmd.cp p

This file:rilgsm_6db replaces the file rilgsm.dll (wm522 based)
And, I do not know exactly what it does, maybe 6 dB improvement?

and

2.-wavedev_g500_audio2.dll
And, I do not know exactly what it does, wave improvement for bluetooth or speaker sound?


Best Regards.
jjae6

[basitelefona]

Hello there,

I also have a cect w800 and the same problems:
-not receiving sms-es
-no gsm signal after soft reset

-Can't get tomtom to work(I'll try with IGO if i fix the Activesync)

-and activesync crashes if i download activesync from microsoft.com
(can't synchronize my contacts, messages etc). If I install the activesync version that i got from china i can browse the phone but just that. Can't synchronize and if i click on tools(to open the applications) again (crash). When i connect the phone to the pc the loading of ActiveSync appears and stays there in an infinite loop. If i use the china ver i can press ESC and can browse the phone. If the standart ActiveSYnc everything crashes. Please help me at least tell me where the contacts are stored(which folder in the phone) so I can copy them from my pc manually.

I'm following everyday the forum if eventually you guys fix the chinese bugs and am sorry that i can't help you with this(I'm not experienced)

[jjae6]

Hello there,

I also have a cect w800 and the same problems:
-not receiving sms-es
-no gsm signal after soft reset

-Can't get tomtom to work(I'll try with IGO if i fix the Activesync)

-and activesync crashes if i download activesync from microsoft.com
(can't synchronize my contacts, messages etc). If I install the activesync version that i got from china i can browse the phone but just that. Can't synchronize and if i click on tools(to open the applications) again (crash). When i connect the phone to the pc the loading of ActiveSync appears and stays there in an infinite loop. If i use the china ver i can press ESC and can browse the phone. If the standart ActiveSYnc everything crashes. Please help me at least tell me where the contacts are stored(which folder in the phone) so I can copy them from my pc manually.

I'm following everyday the forum if eventually you guys fix the chinese bugs and am sorry that i can't help you with this(I'm not experienced)

Soon, i hope, I write how to upgrade the W800 with any rom from Eten G500.
But I do not know if this procedure will solve your problem.

jjae6

[Ally153]

Hi people, I’ve been trying to search around the net for info, but it is very hard to come by for this mobile. Sorry if anything I ask/mention has been covered elsewhere, but I promise I’ve looked before posting!

In addition to the soft-reset phone problem I have noticed the following:


The screen seems to chop off around 1-2px from the left hand side of the screen – it looks like the entire display has been shifted a few px to the left. Normally you don’t notice, but occasionally icons etc get chopped off if too close to the side.

The screen stylus re-calibration software hangs WM5, so your forced to reboot.


Anyone know fixes to either prob?

Finally, what connector does the mobile use for it’s data cable? Want to know so I can buy extra cables or things like headphone converters if needed later.

Thanks.

jjae6, looking forward to the info on upgrading - kudos for all your research so far

[jjae6]

Well, here are the indications (in the file .pdf)

Index:
1. Get "temp.dat" from Eten official Update
2. RESTORE ROM with Activesync
3. RESTORE ROM without ActiveSync
4. DUMP ROM (base BACKUP)
5. Create your W800 ROM from “imgfs_raw_data.bin”
6. Extract files (dump files)
7. Extract "ExtRom custom OEM files"
8. Modify your ExtRom
9. Put a bootloader in your life.


DANGER: These indications can leave your phone unusable, and you can have a beautiful brick. cannot take responsibility for a accidental damage....


This information is for chinese Cect W800 system,
and Possibly for the Eten G500 and others Eten source based.

jjae6.

http://rapidshare.com/files/85729619/FILES_tips_jjae6.zip.html

[hellrazer]

Can somebody please help me to find a free GPS software for my ICOOL W800??? Also how do I surf the net (somewhere that has wireless connection)on this thing??? I got the internet plan but how do I configure the network?? It's Rogers AT&T

[solatges]

Hello,
the sdhc patch seems to not work with my 8 gb micro sd card. The phones only sees 3,6 gb. Can you fix that?
thanks

[ikar]

Well, here are the indications (in the file .pdf)

Index:
1. Get "temp.dat" from Eten official Update
2. RESTORE ROM with Activesync
3. RESTORE ROM without ActiveSync
4. DUMP ROM (base BACKUP)
5. Create your W800 ROM from “imgfs_raw_data.bin”
6. Extract files (dump files)
7. Extract "ExtRom custom OEM files"
8. Modify your ExtRom
9. Put a bootloader in your life.


DANGER: These indications can leave your phone unusable, and you can have a beautiful brick. cannot take responsibility for a accidental damage....


This information is for chinese Cect W800 system,
and Possibly for the Eten G500 and others Eten source based.

jjae6.

http://rapidshare.com/files/85729619/FILES_tips_jjae6.zip.html

Your manual is great job.
I load russian ver g500 rom http://www.etenclub.ru/files/G500/EtenClub_ROMS/G500_EC_G5V0100_WWE_R01.exe
Problem are the same. Gps work, fm radio -not
Now i try restore w800 rom.
Restore base w800 rom based on eten temp.dat.
Jjae6 you knou how change boot wallpaper (in w800 mobile in ubuntu style) ?

[TorAll]

Your manual is great job.
I load russian ver g500 rom http://www.etenclub.ru/files/G500/EtenClub_ROMS/G500_EC_G5V0100_WWE_R01.exe
Problem are the same. Gps work, fm radio - not

ikar, if I understood you correctly, W800 works with the russian g500 ROM normal, except for the FM-radio?

[ikar]

ikar, if I understood you correctly, W800 works with the russian g500 ROM normal, except for the FM-radio?

With russian rom w800 has the same problems

[TorAll]

This may seem ridiculous, but at the forum etenclub.ru polus2003 wrote: "when remove any software (in extrom) or perhaps one help-file - cannot sending SMS"
http://etenclub.ru/board/index.php?showtopic=8757

[ikar]

This may seem ridiculous, but at the forum etenclub.ru polus2003 wrote: "when remove any software (in extrom) or perhaps one help-file - cannot sending SMS"
http://etenclub.ru/board/index.php?showtopic=8757

Rom from this link (http://etenclub.ru/board/index.php?showtopic=8757[/QUOTE])
no change - w800 has the same problems.
Russian eten perl scripts works great - replacement bootlogo isn't problem

[jjae6]

Very bad news:

After about 15 flashs ROMs, my W800 has died. (Bad block write chip error). :(

W800 R.I.P.


Now I have a beautiful white screen and now I no longer have bootloader. :mad:
This can happen, you remains warned!!!! . The process, as you have seen, is very dangerous.

Unfortunately, I can no longer continue experiencing & Writing..

If you think my amateur work has been worth it. Help me buy another W800, and continue with my help.

Donations accepted $0.5 or more $, through paypal.
( With five hundred donations of $0.5 will have enough :) :) )
Send me a private message. thanks.

Best Regards.
jjae6.

[TorAll]

The terrible news jjae6, I am shocked. :mad:
I had planned to buy W800, in April-May.
Your sad experience gives rise to serious doubts about the wisdom of such a purchase.

[jjae6]

Your manual is great job.
I load russian ver g500 rom http://www.etenclub.ru/files/G500/EtenClub_ROMS/G500_EC_G5V0100_WWE_R01.exe
Problem are the same. Gps work, fm radio -not
Now i try restore w800 rom.
Restore base w800 rom based on eten temp.dat.
Jjae6 you knou how change boot wallpaper (in w800 mobile in ubuntu style) ?

Have the same mistake (fm radio) because it, i think, must be the same ROM.
I think, but I can not verify that, if we do a GPS ROM update should be open the FM radio.

At http://www.trendsmobile.com/main/showsection.asp?SectionID=156&ParentID=140 see file: "GPS Firmware Updated":
"The firmware update improves the FM Radio Tuner quality. Instructions for the update is attached in the zip file."

and file: "Eten G500 FM Tuner"
" FM Tuner which would be bundled in the future ROM upgrades.
As the FM Tuner utilises the TMC (component of the GPS) protocol, best reception is obtained when outdoor.
Copy all the 3 files in the zipped file to a directory in the internal memory. For convenience in lauching the program, create a shortcut in the \Windows\Start Menu\Programs folder. You will need to insert the stereo wired headset included with the G500 to activate the FM Tuner."

But beware, this is for the G500, and I do not know what results will be released on the W800 firm.......

[jjae6]

The terrible news jjae6, I am shocked. :mad:
I had planned to buy W800, in April-May.
Your sad experience gives rise to serious doubts about the wisdom of such a purchase.

yes, terrible.... teeeeerrrrrriiiibllllleeeeeeee....
:(

[ikar]

SMS TRICK

In my w800 sms are working now !!!!!!!!!. It's no solution but after them sms are working ok. I found information there (URL="http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=279862&highlight=sms+skschema+script)
In our w800 problem is in radio state after reboot. When we use after start script radio off from skschema - w800 is getting sms normally. I think our problems are in registry settings , not in software-firmware(rom)

jjae6j your news is very bad ,

[jjae6]

SMS TRICK

In my w800 sms are working now !!!!!!!!!. It's no solution but after them sms are working ok. I found information there (URL="http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=279862&highlight=sms+skschema+script)
In our w800 problem is in radio state after reboot. When we use after start script radio off from skschema - w800 is getting sms normally. I think our problems are in registry settings , not in software-firmware(rom)

jjae6j your news is very bad ,

Excelllleeeeeeeeeeeeeeentttttt

Please try it this: "radiooff.exe"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=252380&page=2

and this registry is for another pda...

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\HTC\FlightMode]
"IsFMCheckEnable"=dword:00000000
"WarningMsg"="Please turn Flight Mode off first"

Change "IsFMCheckEnable"=dword:00000001 to "IsFMCheckEnable"=dword:00000000

I think that this registry will not work on your W800.

You can try & put "the desconector fm radio " on "windows/startup/" so every time the system starts, fm will be Disconnected / off.

[ikar]

Excelllleeeeeeeeeeeeeeentttttt

Please try it this: "radiooff.exe"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=252380&page=2

and this registry is for another pda...

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\HTC\FlightMode]
"IsFMCheckEnable"=dword:00000000
"WarningMsg"="Please turn Flight Mode off first"

Change "IsFMCheckEnable"=dword:00000001 to "IsFMCheckEnable"=dword:00000000

I think that this registry will not work on your W800.

You can try & put "the desconector fm radio " on "windows/startup/" so every time the system starts, fm will be Disconnected / off.

In w800 aren't this registry keys and i didn't find similar

[winer22]

I have a few problems.
1. I can't load w800 without loader.
2. When i load it with loader w800 do not accept any sim card.
I think i do not load to a battery. But how can it be? I tried both batterys and it is the same :(

Please help me

[dAV84]

In http://www.trendsmobile.com/main/showsection.asp?SectionID=156&ParentID=140

The FMradio is the same in the w800

For GPS FIRMWARE UPDATE, need tester.

I think for update rom you must be

1) install the update rom 097 and after the rom 110

For the SMS is very simple

You must go to program settings and sim card, he take directly to the sim the parameters to send and received.

In mine in 2 second maes, after total reboot. never problem

[souley]

Hello,

this happens:

- after a hard reset, i have a frozen screen with a win logo and W800, yellow backround, this happens after the second soft reset

- the bootloader is available

- tried several G500 roms from http://files.eten-users.eu/, the bootloader shows OS does not work with this hardware


i hava nice pm conversation with jjae6, up to now we find no solution

anyone out there with an idea?

Who ist the manufacturer of this phone?

Sorry, bad English hopefully everything is clear

[ikar]

In



For the SMS is very simple

You must go to program settings and sim card, he take directly to the sim the parameters to send and received.

In mine in 2 second maes, after total reboot. never problem

Could you explain this ? :

[jjae6]

Hello,

this happens:

- after a hard reset, i have a frozen screen with a win logo and W800, yellow backround, this happens after the second soft reset

- the bootloader is available

- tried several G500 roms from http://files.eten-users.eu/, the bootloader shows OS does not work with this hardware


i hava nice pm conversation with jjae6, up to now we find no solution

anyone out there with an idea?

Who ist the manufacturer of this phone?

Sorry, bad English hopefully everything is clear


You can try this:

Rom loader SDcard method:

Format your microSD as FAT (microSD: less or equal than 1 GB)

Rename "temp.dat" to "temp.bin" and copy to microSD card.
copy your "USBDLUpdate_Console.exe" (found with temp.dat in %temp% PC directory) to microSD card.

Put your W800 in bootloader mode.

(The battery must be charged, or the power cable connected.)

Warning:This is the ultimate solution, I have no responsibility for this procedure. You can lose your bootloader.( If this procedure goes wrong.)

Luck!!!
jjae6.

[dAV84]

This procedure works with my sim and the W800

(i'm living in French Guyane, my sim is ORANGE)

First :

GO to Settings

In PERSONAL (down screen) push to take the icon PHONE

Go to SERVICES (down screen)

Select 1 step by step

CALL BARRING
CaLLER ID
CALL FORWADING
CALL WAITING
VOICE MAIL AND TEXT MESSAGES (in this step you must enter n° phone to voice mail)
FIXED DIALING

With this procedure the sim parameter the phone, i can use the SMS (send and received), GPRS and phone without problem.

[ikar]

This procedure works with my sim and the W800

(i'm living in French Guyane, my sim is ORANGE)

First :

GO to Settings

In PERSONAL (down screen) push to take the icon PHONE

Go to SERVICES (down screen)

Select 1 step by step

CALL BARRING
CaLLER ID
CALL FORWADING
CALL WAITING
VOICE MAIL AND TEXT MESSAGES (in this step you must enter n° phone to voice mail)
FIXED DIALING

With this procedure the sim parameter the phone, i can use the SMS (send and received), GPRS and phone without problem.

And before did you have any problems with sms ?
In Poland in polish Orange text messages works great.

[TorAll]

Linux now work with G500, who want to try?
http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/EtenG500Status

[souley]

You can try this:

Rom loader SDcard method:

Format your microSD as FAT (microSD: less or equal than 1 GB)

Rename "temp.dat" to "temp.bin" and copy to microSD card.
copy your "USBDLUpdate_Console.exe" (found with temp.dat in %temp% PC directory) to microSD card.

Put your W800 in bootloader mode.

(The battery must be charged, or the power cable connected.)

Warning:This is the ultimate solution, I have no responsibility for this procedure. You can lose your bootloader.( If this procedure goes wrong.)

Luck!!!
jjae6.


Hello,

it is done, works great! I´m happy .

10 minutes sweated, and the boot screen appears
with G500!

bootloader is also installed.

Thank´s to jjae6, he invested a lot of time to a stupid German.

:)

[aqualogic]

Hi, I also have a W800, have had it for a few months now but i never used it because the first day i received it, everybody told me that my phone was switched off due to the sim not being recognised after reset, i then found out that it will work if you remove the battery and replace it. Being very angry with the phone and also since the fm radio does not work i just left it in the box.

Is there any difference installing G500 097 rom for the fm radio to work or another rom?.

Also since not all of us are capable of making a backup of our own rom, if it is possible can someone host a backup of the w800 rom so we can download etc.. and use on our own phone if something happens etc.. also if you have found a better rom for w800, it would be nice if you could host this too so that ppl like me can download and use especially after you have made it work on w800, becaus ei have no idea how to convert a rom.

Regards

[ikar]

Hi, I also have a W800, have had it for a few months now but i never used it because the first day i received it, everybody told me that my phone was switched off due to the sim not being recognised after reset, i then found out that it will work if you remove the battery and replace it. Being very angry with the phone and also since the fm radio does not work i just left it in the box.

Is there any difference installing G500 097 rom for the fm radio to work or another rom?.

Also since not all of us are capable of making a backup of our own rom, if it is possible can someone host a backup of the w800 rom so we can download etc.. and use on our own phone if something happens etc.. also if you have found a better rom for w800, it would be nice if you could host this too so that ppl like me can download and use especially after you have made it work on w800, becaus ei have no idea how to convert a rom.

Regards

Read this (http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=66905&d=1201019213)
and all messages in this topic

[solatges]

I havent understood too.. Whats the good thing with the g500 rom now? The telephone has less bug now? Has he got all the old fonction too?
Regards

[ikar]

I havent understood too.. Whats the good thing with the g500 rom now? The telephone has less bug now? Has he got all the old fonction too?
Regards

nothing - its the same

[hellrazer]

How in the world can I receive sms with my Icool W800?? Another thing is I need the GPS software and the map of Canada. Somebody please help, i've been searching forever for these stuff and no clue so far.

[aqualogic]

Ikar, i have read all the topic posted here and I understand that all remains the same if g500 rom is installed!

Only JJae6 has said that he has loaded latest g500 rom then his w800 went bust, the rest just mentioned loading a russian rom which is not neccessarily a new rom!!

I had also read jjae6's pdf files but i still find it hard to make my own backup rom or convert g500 rom for w800, is it not possible for someone to host these roms after they are made, so as to help ppl like me who do not understand so much these things?

I also would like to add that my w800 has no problem receiving SMS's and I have same version of wm5 as mentioned in beggining of topic

[aqualogic]

I have checked to receive and send sms you must go to-

settings under personal click phone, then go to services and highlight ''voice mail and text messages'', now click get settings, you should now have the mobile provider text messages service center number, if not ask mobile service provider and enter manually. In my voice mail box i have not any number so I assume if i try voice mail it will not work but i have never used voice mail here.

[ikar]

Ikar, i have read all the topic posted here and I understand that all remains the same if g500 rom is installed!


YES all remains the same. I tested 3 G500 roms:
- EUU_ETEN_G500_WWE_R22_105_0110.EXE
- G500_WWE_0110.EXE
- G500_EC_G5V0100_WWE_R01.exe - russian

Only JJae6 has said that he has loaded latest g500 rom then his w800 went bust, the rest just mentioned loading a russian rom which is not neccessarily a new rom!!

I had also read jjae6's pdf files but i still find it hard to make my own backup rom or convert g500 rom for w800, is it not possible for someone to host these roms after they are made, so as to help ppl like me who do not understand so much these things?

My tested w800backup rom - based on russian 110 rom (boot logo from this rom) - http://rapidshare.com/files/86726527/temp.rar.html
Mymodified rom (tested) - my logo, added cabs to extrom: sdhc.cab,psshutxp, lastcallo2 - http://rapidshare.com/files/86728753/temp.zip.html


I also would like to add that my w800 has no problem receiving SMS's and I have same version of wm5 as mentioned in beggining of topic

I think you also have problem receiving sms's - problem is only with sim cards some mobile operators ( In my country i tested sim cards from 4 mobile operators - in only one case (era -sim card) - sms's receiving is problem

[ikar]

I have checked to receive and send sms you must go to-

settings under personal click phone, then go to services and highlight ''voice mail and text messages'', now click get settings, you should now have the mobile provider text messages service center number, if not ask mobile service provider and enter manually. In my voice mail box i have not any number so I assume if i try voice mail it will not work but i have never used voice mail here.

With sim my mobile operator - your solution not working

[dAV84]

Ok, we knows now, the W800 is a copy of ETEN G500
He have the program to listen FM RADIO (not runs)
Problem with SMS received in most country on the world.
Problem with Phone if stop the baterie at start.

Now.
1) A ROM is composed into 2 parties
a) FMRADIO (is the drivers of phone and pda)
b) ROM OS (The windows and program)

anything knows how extract in 2 parties this?

If we take THE ROMRADIO(drivers) with the las rom for ETEN G500 and the last ROM OS for ARTEMIS in WM6
Can we make a special ROM for W800?

For newers (me) the rom must be in .EXE for install directly from SDCMM card, no take wtih the DOS or other from PC......

A solution? Anything kows how make it?

[dAV84]

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=327203

[ikar]

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=327203
It's tutorial for artemis:
"How to make an extended rom - a tutorial."

and better read this :http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=297263&highlight=eten+perl+scripts

[jjae6]

Ok, we knows now, the W800 is a copy of ETEN G500
He have the program to listen FM RADIO (not runs)
Problem with SMS received in most country on the world.
Problem with Phone if stop the baterie at start.


Yes, that right now. :-(


Now.
1) A ROM is composed into 2 parties
a) FMRADIO (is the drivers of phone and pda)
b) ROM OS (The windows and program)

anything knows how extract in 2 parties this?



It is not known, there is no application loader (and original rom) for the W800 ROM.

I only got how to extract the "base ROM" ( part of your "b" part = imgfs_raw_data.bin) with pdocread....

The problem is that party (his b) should be cooking to be loaded on ROM (temp.dat).

For that, we take the "temp.dat" G500 template file, and placed inside the file created by pdocread (w800 data file imgfs_raw_data.bin).

That means "temp.dat" is a container (imgfs_raw_data.bin) with much more information including the bootloader.....


If we take THE ROMRADIO(drivers) with the las rom for ETEN G500 and the last ROM OS for ARTEMIS in WM6
Can we make a special ROM for W800?

For newers (me) the rom must be in .EXE for install directly from SDCMM card, no take wtih the DOS or other from PC......

A solution? Anything kows how make it?

The matter is now known that the W800 is not a artemis ...Ie only pick what they serve for a Eten G500

In previous post, I wrote a file that updates the G500 ROM RADIO.
I think "G500 rom radio"= "GPS firm" + "radio FM"
So far nobody has charged this firm (g500 rom radio) in your W800.

I only got to load a coocked ROM "temp.dat" through: (read my .pdf)
1. ActiveSync
2. Without activesync
3 .- through microSD.

That is all ,I Until I broke my W800.... I am not able to help more, this is what I know.

[jjae6]

Hello,

it is done, works great! I´m happy .

10 minutes sweated, and the boot screen appears
with G500!

bootloader is also installed.

Thank´s to jjae6, he invested a lot of time to a stupid German.

:)

I am glad that this information is good for you.
Greetings.
jjae6.

[jjae6]

Ikar, i have read all the topic posted here and I understand that all remains the same if g500 rom is installed!

Only JJae6 has said that he has loaded latest g500 rom then his w800 went bust, the rest just mentioned loading a russian rom which is not neccessarily a new rom!!

I had also read jjae6's pdf files but i still find it hard to make my own backup rom or convert g500 rom for w800, is it not possible for someone to host these roms after they are made, so as to help ppl like me who do not understand so much these things?

I also would like to add that my w800 has no problem receiving SMS's and I have same version of wm5 as mentioned in beggining of topic


Hello.
If your system run well....not neccessarily a new rom!!!
and...
Yes, My W800 broke, I loaded at least 15 times the ROM. And I believe that this chip RAM is not ready for such charges ....
I think that the system "mark blocks damaged" ( Every time start a Rom load procedure) and you run out of memory useful for upcoming charges of ROMs ....

[aqualogic]

JJAE6 or Ikar, can you upload the G500 english 110 rom that is modified to work on our w800 as i have very bad reception on my w800 and many times when i miss a call the phone freezes and i have to reset, aka remove battery....

I am hoping that reception and this minor problem of phone freezing when i miss a call will be solved, none of you mentioned it maybe because you are running the g500 110 rom??

Regards and thanks in advance

[jengitsme]

I have found something that could be a rom backup, i have found it at soft4mobi.com, i have uploaded it (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=U3PACMAL), take a look if it is right.

[jjae6]

JJAE6 or Ikar, can you upload the G500 english 110 rom that is modified to work on our w800 as i have very bad reception on my w800 and many times when i miss a call the phone freezes and i have to reset, aka remove battery....

I am hoping that reception and this minor problem of phone freezing when i miss a call will be solved, none of you mentioned it maybe because you are running the g500 110 rom??

Regards and thanks in advance


I think the ROM G500 is identical to W800, except the bitmap W800 boot.

You can download the G500 v110:
http://www.eten-users.eu/index.php?showtopic=25

I think that if you have problems, will having it....I believe that in your W800 ROM is loaded a G500 v110 rom.

I think it would require a review of some dll files, Among others "etmux.dll" and "rilgsm.dll", dll communicating with the sim card.....While not have an updated ROM for W800 or G500, I think we will have the same problems....

[jjae6]

I have found something that could be a rom backup, i have found it at soft4mobi.com, i have uploaded it (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=U3PACMAL), take a look if it is right.

Thanks for the link, but I do not think it serves.
This .bin file is a unknown format and very different to G500 rom.
This .bin not responding to decompression through "viewimgfs.exe"..

I find hex text as "Accelerated Technology Internal Use Only - Serial Number: NP0000 ..... Copyright (c) 1993-2000 ATI - Nucleus PLUS - Version ARM 7/9"

And a search to google... this is a RTOS Embedded Systems from memtor.com... i think this rom is not a windows mobile system

[jjae6]

Another news:

In previous days (Before bricking my W800 in my rom update), I bought in a Internet Bazaar a USB charger cable for Cect P168 (iphone clone Chinese).
For people who interested him, the connector is the same externally to W800, but internally the pinout connections are different. The connector can be disassembled and could weld in the adequate 4 pins....

[aqualogic]

JJAE6, I tried to update my w800 with g500 wwe 110 rom but it said non compatible hardware as i expected. ( i do not know how to modify it to work for w800)

I asked you or Ikar to upload if possible a modified version of g500 wwe 110 rom that will install on w800 because i would like to try it!!

Regards and Thanks

[aqualogic]

Hi there,

I finally sat down and followed JJAE6's instructions and flashed my w800 with eten wwe v110, activesync method.

Regarding the radio it do not work as all of you said and i think it can never work because the gps chip inside w800 is probably not the same as in g500, the g500 is sirf3 + extra radio chip or whatever, the w800 nobody know but if it were the same the radio would work. Regarding simcard not being recognised after reset, this is prbably also due to different gsm/gprs chip inside w800 , I think all the probs are hardware related not software related although maybe could be fixed by software but not by usung g500 rom or modifying g500 rom with and parts of w800 rom because i think and so does jjae6 that both roms are identical. For all of us to be sure someone needs to open w800 and identify what gps and gsm/gprs chips are used inside w800 and compare them to that of g500.

Thanks

i am staying with g500 rom as all works, the same as w800, tested gps and it does seem faster but maybe i am imaging i dont know, reception on gps also seems better without antenna but again maybe i am imaging.

any comments...

My final opinion is for the price of the w800 i think it is a true bargain as gps works 100%, windows programs 100% also, and gsm capabilities at the moment seems ok.

When calling other party say to me that volume is very low anybody have same problem, maybe it is only my microphone that is not so good??

[jjae6]

Hi there,

I finally sat down and followed JJAE6's instructions and flashed my w800 with eten wwe v110, activesync method.

Regarding the radio it do not work as all of you said and i think it can never work because the gps chip inside w800 is probably not the same as in g500, the g500 is sirf3 + extra radio chip or whatever, the w800 nobody know but if it were the same the radio would work. Regarding simcard not being recognised after reset, this is prbably also due to different gsm/gprs chip inside w800 , I think all the probs are hardware related not software related although maybe could be fixed by software but not by usung g500 rom or modifying g500 rom with and parts of w800 rom because i think and so does jjae6 that both roms are identical. For all of us to be sure someone needs to open w800 and identify what gps and gsm/gprs chips are used inside w800 and compare them to that of g500.

Thanks

i am staying with g500 rom as all works, the same as w800, tested gps and it does seem faster but maybe i am imaging i dont know, reception on gps also seems better without antenna but again maybe i am imaging.

any comments...

My final opinion is for the price of the w800 i think it is a true bargain as gps works 100%, windows programs 100% also, and gsm capabilities at the moment seems ok.

When calling other party say to me that volume is very low anybody have same problem, maybe it is only my microphone that is not so good??


Soon I hope to open my bricked W800 and take some pictures and I Report to the forum.


PS: I still needed some $0.5 paypal donations ;-)

[aqualogic]

JJAE6 GIVE ME YOUR PAYPAL ADDRESS I WILL GIVE YOU A DONATION, I HOPE ALL OTHERS FOLLOW SUIT.....

Regards

[jjae6]

JJAE6 GIVE ME YOUR PAYPAL ADDRESS I WILL GIVE YOU A DONATION, I HOPE ALL OTHERS FOLLOW SUIT.....

Regards

Thanks aqualogic for your support,

My paypal address:

jorgejuan6
@
aim . com


=============

He made a pdf file with internal photos of my bricked W800:
"w800_strip_jjae6.pdf "

About 21 mb of high-resolution digital images.

I recover my W800 through donations....I hope ... :-)

To all the people who help me by a $0.5 or more $...... I will send the private link to the pdf file.

Current Donations: $ 0.92

Sample .pdf photo:

[difylos]

The biggest problem of this phone :
If the battery gets empty and i turn on the phone again it does not get any signal until battery is removed.
im getting this error:
" a wireless radio must be attached to use the phone "

[dAV84]

I'm install DESTINATOR 7 (illegal donwload, no good by just for test), but can't install maps*****

But's the good new "the TMC.EXE" runs and the gps take information from radio with the external antenna...

[jjae6]

I'm install DESTINATOR 7 (illegal donwload, no good by just for test), but can't install maps*****

But's the good new "the TMC.EXE" runs and the gps take information from radio with the external antenna...

I think that by now, the best gps application navigator is Igo / Miomap, but this is a matter of taste....

On the other hand the TMC is good news.

Best Regards.

[aqualogic]

i am running tomtom on w800 and it runs fine!! The only thing is that without external antenna sat reception is very low.

Regards

ps. I will send you $10.00 on your paypal JJAE6, the info you have given us so far merits more than that. If you decide not to buy new w800 then no probs for me , if you do buy a new one then even better so we can continue this work. By the way when you send me the pdf i would like to see what flash eeprom it uses maybe we can fix your old w800 by changing flash with new flash, simple...

[jjae6]

i am running tomtom on w800 and it runs fine!! The only thing is that without external antenna sat reception is very low.

Regards

ps. I will send you $10.00 on your paypal JJAE6, the info you have given us so far merits more than that. If you decide not to buy new w800 then no probs for me , if you do buy a new one then even better so we can continue this work. By the way when you send me the pdf i would like to see what flash eeprom it uses maybe we can fix your old w800 by changing flash with new flash, simple...


Hi AquaLogic.
Yes, without the external antenna this gps is very bad...

PS: Thank you, I hope your future donation with open arms. :-) . I will send you a private message with the link to the pdf file.
Current Donations: $ 0.92

[aqualogic]

Radio will never work on w800 because w800 uses Antaris 4 chipset for GPS whilst g500 uses sirfstar3 with fmTMC receicer. So in w800 there is no fm receiver due to use of Antaris chipset for gps.

[jjae6]

Radio will never work on w800 because w800 uses Antaris 4 chipset for GPS whilst g500 uses sirfstar3 with fmTMC receicer. So in w800 there is no fm receiver due to use of Antaris chipset for gps.


No fm receiver due to use of "antaris chipset": Ho ho ho!! :D :D :D :D

Then .. We must take, search, the original ROM of china !!!

I think...Chinese? person who turned this model into different languages (English, Spanish, German ...) simply took a firmware compatible (g500), but not at 100%.... Good job boy!!! :-(

Until we have that firm Chinese, I believe that there is nothing to do.
( sms problems..., GSM start problems.... and fm discarded offcourse)

This is my opinion.
jjae6

P.S: Thanks souley & ikar for ... current donations: $10.92
Incidentally... I have put up "for sale" on ebay, my cutting "Cect W800", only to europe at the moment. ( If someone wants to make a donation, gets a part gift .search on ebay "cect w800")

[samali13]

I just bough a W800 during my recent trip in China and also found its SMS not receiving. I have gotten it to work, but need more testing.

This is how I tried:

Try to send SMS to your own number, on mine, the first SMS is going nowhere but the second and so is ok, however when the unit is on standby sometimes it bis not receiving.

This is what I did:
1. Apply the Autosuspend patch.cab (from eten)
2. copy the new SMS_Providers.dll using Total commander to the \Windows subdirectory
3. Add these entries in the registry:
HKLM\comm\cellular\sms\protocols\Class2
AppName=tmail.exe
DLL=SMS_Providers.dll
ExportPrefix=Class2
Name=Microsoft SMS Class2 Protocol
Params=-Class2
Priority=19 (Dec)

All are string, except Priority is Dword

I did this based on looking at registry entries of my other windows mobile phones and they were included but missing from the W800.

I do not have a clear understanding of exactly what I did, but after resetting the unit, it is now receiving SMS, if any, missing the first one and there after never miss ones even during standby ....

However, someone with better knowledge must know better, I welcome anyone to test/report as how their unit perform

Sam

[difylos]

Anybody knows where we can find an extra usb charging cable ;
:)

[Ally153]

Has anyone tried pairing a bluetooth GPS unit with the W800?

I bought one for better reception, but sadly the handset doesn't even see the GPS unit! I've managed to pair the GPS unit to my PC and a Sony K700i.

I've been looking for extra USB cables for this unit too!

I noticed jjae6 mentioned that one of the CECT imitation iPhones has the same connector, but wired differently. As I'm not so hot with re-wiring/soldering cables like that it would be nice if I could buy one which works from the get go!

[winer22]

Anyone have these problems?
I can load phone only by USB cable. It do not work without USB cable.
If i leave phone to load it loads until i get message that 1% battery left and stops loading.
Also i can't activate USB cable with my PS and when i insert sim card, phone do not recognize it :(

Is it possibly to repair these problems?

[Ally153]

Winer, I had a similar problem with my unit - it turned out to be a faulty battery, mines came with two, so I use the spare now. The mobile won't sync with your comp unless you have ActiveSync/Device Centre installed. The sim one I don't know unless it's inserted wrong?

[jjae6]

I just bough a W800 during my recent trip in China and also found its SMS not receiving. I have gotten it to work, but need more testing.

This is how I tried:

Try to send SMS to your own number, on mine, the first SMS is going nowhere but the second and so is ok, however when the unit is on standby sometimes it bis not receiving.

This is what I did:
1. Apply the Autosuspend patch.cab (from eten)
2. copy the new SMS_Providers.dll using Total commander to the \Windows subdirectory
3. Add these entries in the registry:
HKLM\comm\cellular\sms\protocols\Class2
AppName=tmail.exe
DLL=SMS_Providers.dll
ExportPrefix=Class2
Name=Microsoft SMS Class2 Protocol
Params=-Class2
Priority=19 (Dec)
......


Hi samali...I can not verify this (sms reception), but .... i see

The new sms_providers.dll is a dll "signed" and 6 difference found. (and the added certificate difference)
Offsets: hexadec.
new old
138: 5C 00
139: 5F 00
13A: 01 00
179: 8C 00
17C: 50 00
17D: 05 00

Well in http://ozekisms.com/index.php?owpn=223, i find that:

SMS message types Class2
SMS:TEXT:GSM7BIT:CLASS2 ===> A text SMS message. Class2 indicates that the message should be stored on the SIM card.

I think.....
The registry "HKLM\comm\cellular\sms\protocols\Class2" , this record makes the method of access to the "SMS", ie with the sim card directly.... so if we could access the sms by "simmanager" workaround, But not through tmail ( so far) by that branch missing (class2) of the registry.... This may be a good explanation...


jjae6.

[jjae6]

Has anyone tried pairing a bluetooth GPS unit with the W800?

I bought one for better reception, but sadly the handset doesn't even see the GPS unit! I've managed to pair the GPS unit to my PC and a Sony K700i.

I've been looking for extra USB cables for this unit too!

I noticed jjae6 mentioned that one of the CECT imitation iPhones has the same connector, but wired differently. As I'm not so hot with re-wiring/soldering cables like that it would be nice if I could buy one which works from the get go!

I think it is possible, I think it was modifying the registry and associating the COM6 ... But now I can no longer check.

[jjae6]

Anyone have these problems?
I can load phone only by USB cable. It do not work without USB cable.
If i leave phone to load it loads until i get message that 1% battery left and stops loading.
Also i can't activate USB cable with my PS and when i insert sim card, phone do not recognize it :(

Is it possibly to repair these problems?

I think that your battery does not make good contact with the 3 pins.
Remove the cover, remove the battery, place the battery and push the battery upwards until you hear a little "click". Try it.
For your sim card... close de gsm phone with your up icon "flight mode ---> x appears", make a softreset....and remove the battery.. put your battery and start.

[winer22]

I think that your battery does not make good contact with the 3 pins.
Remove the cover, remove the battery, place the battery and push the battery upwards until you hear a little "click". Try it.
For your sim card... close de gsm phone with your up icon "flight mode ---> x appears", make a softreset....and remove the battery.. put your battery and start.

Thanks for trying to help, but didn't worked :( I have 2 batterys but it is the same problem. It shows what charging, but after some time battery shows 1% and stop charging. I do not understand why marker --> on USB cable which conects to phone have to be under. Usually it is above.

I am ready to pay some $ for help, if my phone begin to work normal!!!

[jjae6]

Thanks for trying to help, but didn't worked :( I have 2 batterys but it is the same problem. It shows what charging, but after some time battery shows 1% and stop charging. I do not understand why marker --> on USB cable which conects to phone have to be under. Usually it is above.

I am ready to pay some $ for help, if my phone begin to work normal!!!

Try to install this .cab in your W800.
But before save everything, or make a backup, since, if not working must be make a reset..

DO NOT extract this file, copy this .cab in your memory card or memory phone and run.

PS: Current donations: $10.92

[dAV84]

http://www.atmel.com/dyn/resources/prod_documents/doc4630.pdf

a rom possible?

[ikar]

I just bough a W800 during my recent trip in China and also found its SMS not receiving. I have gotten it to work, but need more testing.

This is how I tried:

Try to send SMS to your own number, on mine, the first SMS is going nowhere but the second and so is ok, however when the unit is on standby sometimes it bis not receiving.

This is what I did:
1. Apply the Autosuspend patch.cab (from eten)
2. copy the new SMS_Providers.dll using Total commander to the \Windows subdirectory
3. Add these entries in the registry:
HKLM\comm\cellular\sms\protocols\Class2
AppName=tmail.exe
DLL=SMS_Providers.dll
ExportPrefix=Class2
Name=Microsoft SMS Class2 Protocol
Params=-Class2
Priority=19 (Dec)

All are string, except Priority is Dword

I did this based on looking at registry entries of my other windows mobile phones and they were included but missing from the W800.

I do not have a clear understanding of exactly what I did, but after resetting the unit, it is now receiving SMS, if any, missing the first one and there after never miss ones even during standby ....

However, someone with better knowledge must know better, I welcome anyone to test/report as how their unit perform

Sam

In my w800 - your solution don't work;

[Ally153]

http://www.atmel.com/dyn/resources/prod_documents/doc4630.pdf

a rom possible?

Do we need a rom? The unit works fine after-all - unless the reception has somehow been reduced from using the G500 rom. That may be a point though - even with the patch antenna installed I find the recpetion to be wanting at best. It takes a good few minutes to get a fix, where my parent's Garmin will do so in under a min. Is there any way for WM devices to take advantage of the A-GPS?

I think it is possible, I think it was modifying the registry and associating the COM6 ... But now I can no longer check.

That part should be fine - my problem is when searching for bluetooth devices the GPS unit doesn't even show up :(. I know I'd doing the pairing right because it works with other devices (PC etc). And my W800 works because I use a Jabra BT320 regularly.

[Ally153]

Did a little more digging - the Antaris chips don't have as good sensitivity to sirfstar without the SuperSense firmware loaded. I'm doubtful that the better firmware is loaded given the additional costs. Shame we can't attach a JTAG connector and had the 'better' firmware handy to flash up it's firmware!

I take it there would be no other way of flashing the GPS chip?

[jjae6]

That part should be fine - my problem is when searching for bluetooth devices the GPS unit doesn't even show up :(. I know I'd doing the pairing right because it works with other devices (PC etc). And my W800 works because I use a Jabra BT320 regularly.

I can not prove this, but ...You can add a modem profile bluetooth with a:
Pocket Bluetooth Tools: http://bluetooth.i-networx.de/index_e.html
and
Guide: http://bluetooth.i-networx.de/guide_e.html

[Ally153]

I can not prove this, but ...You can add a modem profile bluetooth with a:
Pocket Bluetooth Tools: http://bluetooth.i-networx.de/index_e.html
and
Guide: http://bluetooth.i-networx.de/guide_e.html

Thanks for the advice, sadly I already have that installed and it doesn't help. The problem is it won't even see there is a device there to pair with when searching.

My PC finds the GPS unit fine though - so does another phone - why not the W800?

[aqualogic]

Hi There,

I have paired a BT-308 bluetooth GPS with my w800 without any probs at all and tested on tomtom, it works perfect. Regarding the onboard Antaris gps chipset I think it probably has the new firware inside and they are or should be on par with sirf3, so i think it takes time to lock on satellites due to no antenna, i dont know exactly but is there an antenna inside where the antaris is attached to give more reception maybe JJAE^ can reply he took his apart.

when i tested w800 with its external antenna it will lock on sats in the same time as my bt-308 bluetooth gps , and this proves that w800 internal antenna is the problem for slow or no sat lock... ie. bt gps and ext. antenna have nearly same size metal antenna inside, i doubt phone has and metal antenna inside

PS. I am running g500 wwe 110 soft and found it to work identical to w800 soft. The windows version is the same so i think they are both identical roms just changed the header when resetting.

[jjae6]

Hi There,

I have paired a BT-308 bluetooth GPS with my w800 without any probs at all and tested on tomtom, it works perfect. Regarding the onboard Antaris gps chipset I think it probably has the new firware inside and they are or should be on par with sirf3, so i think it takes time to lock on satellites due to no antenna, i dont know exactly but is there an antenna inside where the antaris is attached to give more reception maybe JJAE^ can reply he took his apart.

when i tested w800 with its external antenna it will lock on sats in the same time as my bt-308 bluetooth gps , and this proves that w800 internal antenna is the problem for slow or no sat lock... ie. bt gps and ext. antenna have nearly same size metal antenna inside, i doubt phone has and metal antenna inside


Hi Aqualogic, I see

Antenna 1.
In the file I sent you "w800_strip_jjae6.pdf", on page 10 there is a metallic coating (that protects all the chips), the coating makes contact through two metal wings above until the two sides of the outer metal of our W800 casing

Antenna 2.
On page 1, 2
In the casing that brings speakers and is open to the battery at the bottom has two contact with a metal surface hidden.


PS. I am running g500 wwe 110 soft and found it to work identical to w800 soft. The windows version is the same so i think they are both identical roms just changed the header when resetting.

YES IDENTICAL ROMS, except some data of bootloader...

jae6.

[arti4]

Please how to enter in bootloader.
I have the same cect w800 .

[jjae6]

Thanks for the advice, sadly I already have that installed and it doesn't help. The problem is it won't even see there is a device there to pair with when searching.

My PC finds the GPS unit fine though - so does another phone - why not the W800?


1 .- Is it possible that the bluetooth is blocked by anything application? Make a reset.
2 .- Look for the "taskmanager" ((TaskMgr.exe) pocket application at internet, and see services and drivers installed and available.. and put here your data...Maybe some service is not started.

But before you test point 1.

[jjae6]

Please how to enter in bootloader.
I have the same cect w800 .

You already can enter in bootloader mode with the combination:

“Stylus reset in the hole reset” + “power button” (3 seconds) , and now release only “powerbutton” (Keeping the stylus in the hole)

Now you can view various texts in your boot:
USB Downloader 0013h
USB Downloader Ready.
USB Host is not connected yet. .........

[solatges]

I know that I m off topic but I have seen that a sdhc patch is already post for the W800. But,it only detects 3,7 gb of my 8gb card (like a 4gb card in fact). I discoverd that the driver works only fine under windows mobile 6. So,can you make a such driver for the W800 for wm5? or can we upgrade the w800 with windows mobile 6?
regards

[solatges]

Help !!
I have tested a lot of sdhc patch and now my w800 cant read a card (2gb or 8gb...). I have changed the value of HLM\System\storagemanager of the unload and waitio Delay.. can somebody tell me the full registrery in HLM\System\storagemanager and in HLM\System\storagemanager\profiles and send me the defaut "sdbus.dll" and "sdmemory.dll".
I fear that the reader is dead..
Regards

[solatges]

I have made a hard reset :( And it works again ^^ Just need to reinstall the programs..
But still need a 8gb patch.
Regards

[jjae6]

I have made a hard reset :( And it works again ^^ Just need to reinstall the programs..
But still need a 8gb patch.
Regards



If the patch does not work, you should make a hardreset!

Try this, first: SDHC.777.cab and sofreset

jjae6.
PS: Current donations: $10.92

[difylos]

What about the gsm error
Has anyone fixed this im loosing calls every day :confused:

[arti4]

What about the gsm error
Has anyone fixed this im loosing calls every day :confused:
Thank you for help about the bootloader.
I like change the windows mobile 5 eng with WM5 or WM6 french.

[basitelefona]

Originally Posted by samali13
I just bough a W800 during my recent trip in China and also found its SMS not receiving. I have gotten it to work, but need more testing.

This is how I tried:

Try to send SMS to your own number, on mine, the first SMS is going nowhere but the second and so is ok, however when the unit is on standby sometimes it bis not receiving.

This is what I did:
1. Apply the Autosuspend patch.cab (from eten)
2. copy the new SMS_Providers.dll using Total commander to the \Windows subdirectory
3. Add these entries in the registry:
HKLM\comm\cellular\sms\protocols\Class2
AppName=tmail.exe
DLL=SMS_Providers.dll
ExportPrefix=Class2
Name=Microsoft SMS Class2 Protocol
Params=-Class2
Priority=19 (Dec)

All are string, except Priority is Dword

I did this based on looking at registry entries of my other windows mobile phones and they were included but missing from the W800.

I do not have a clear understanding of exactly what I did, but after resetting the unit, it is now receiving SMS, if any, missing the first one and there after never miss ones even during standby ....

However, someone with better knowledge must know better, I welcome anyone to test/report as how their unit perform

Sam
Don't work with me:(
but I'll try to search in the registry. Maybe we shoudl modify somewhere else.

[basitelefona]

Maybe it's stupid to post that. Maybe it's unusefull and not for the right phone, but i tried to find all the related keys for messaging:
It's not for the Cect but may come handy:

http://www.nicque.com/hatena11/RemoveMessaging.reg.txt

REGEDIT4

[-HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Notifications\{283E 0018-E5C9-44e4-9864-4C4A3DED3BC3}]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\PushRouter\Registratio ns\ByCTAndAppId\application/vnd.wap.mms-message;]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\PushRouter\Registratio ns\ByGenericId\PC3]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\PushRouter\Registratio ns\ByGenericId\PC10]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\PushRouter\Registratio ns\ByGenericId\PC2]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\Cellular\SMS\Protocols\Raw]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\Cellular\SMS\Protocols\Not ification]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\Cellular\SMS\Protocols\Tex t]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\Cellular\SMS\Protocols\Bro adcast]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\Cellular\SMS\Protocols\Sta tus]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Shell\Rai\:M ESSAGING]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Today\Items\"Messaging"]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Inbox\Svc\SM S]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Inbox\Svc\SM S\Rules]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Inbox\Svc\SM S\MsgClasses]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\Inbox\ExternalAccounts\M MS]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\Inbox\ExternalAccounts\S MS]
[-HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{325087C5-9BBE-4f07-8F5B-2ACEFD1C4B68}]
[-HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{325087C5-9BBE-4f07-8F5B-2ACEFD1C4B68}\InprocServer32]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Palm\Varnish\Messaging \MMS]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Palm\Varnish\Messaging \SMS]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Palm\Varnish\Messaging \General]

Also maybe it can be from :
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\Cellular\SMS\Protocols\Raw]
some tweeks have to be done there.

I'm not experienced as you are but i'll continue searching.

Thanks to all of You.

[basitelefona]

Maybe we should change also the files:
sms.dll
smsdrv.dll

The original sms_providers.dll was smaller than the one that i replaced.

[jjae6]

I think we should work on finding the original ROM chinese for this model.

We can imagine the original W800 & ROM chinese will not be based on G500 ROM english that we sold them all.

Once I found that, all these problems will disappear and the only possible work would translate this chinese rom into English language or all other flavors....

In other words I can imagine that the G500 Rom is fully compatible for a Eten g500 hardware and not for this W800....

Does anyone have the ROM Chinese version? or Anybody can write and ask your salesperson for the ROM chinese original ?


Thanks souley & ikar & winer22 for ... Current Donations $15.92

[Danijel_HR]

Hi All,
Can someone answer does GPS navigation works without connecting external gps antenna.
I'm planning to buy one but i read that you must connect external antenna to have signal in navigation software.
BR

[Ally153]

Hi All,
Can someone answer does GPS navigation works without connecting external gps antenna.
I'm planning to buy one but i read that you must connect external antenna to have signal in navigation software.
BR

You don't HAVE to plug in the external ariel, but it does help the signal - especially at the start of your journey when the handset is trying to get a lock on the satelites. I find mines takes about a minute or two beforeit starts tracking.

Also in some build-up areas it's hard to get a lock without the external ariel.

[Danijel_HR]

You don't HAVE to plug in the external ariel, but it does help the signal - especially at the start of your journey when the handset is trying to get a lock on the satelites. I find mines takes about a minute or two beforeit starts tracking.

Also in some build-up areas it's hard to get a lock without the external ariel.

That should be ok since usual gps devices has 45 seconds cold star so minute is acceptable.

Also, is there any known large bugs in that cell

[samali13]

I think we should work on finding the original ROM chinese for this model.

We can imagine the original W800 & ROM chinese will not be based on G500 ROM english that we sold them all.

Once I found that, all these problems will disappear and the only possible work would translate this chinese rom into English language or all other flavors....

In other words I can imagine that the G500 Rom is fully compatible for a Eten g500 hardware and not for this W800....

Does anyone have the ROM Chinese version? or Anybody can write and ask your salesperson for the ROM chinese original ?


Thanks souley & ikar & winer22 for ... Current Donations $15.92


I found this on the chinese forum,

http://bbs.3gzx.net/Thread.aspx?ThreadID=123205

I do not read chinese , but I was able to download it it expand into 128.mb w800.bin files. Could this be the original chinese rom. May be someone who can read chinese chek this out. BTW you have to register to download, just use web translation to do it...

[jjae6]

I found this on the chinese forum,

http://bbs.3gzx.net/Thread.aspx?ThreadID=123205

I do not read chinese , but I was able to download it it expand into 128.mb w800.bin files. Could this be the original chinese rom. May be someone who can read chinese chek this out. BTW you have to register to download, just use web translation to do it...

Google translate.... chinese to english
http://209.85.135.104/translate_c?hl=en&langpair=zh%7Cen&u=http://bbs.3gzx.net/Thread.aspx%3FThreadID%3D123205

ummm.... This seems to have good appearance ... :):)

[solatges]

http://209.85.135.104/translate_c?hl=en&langpair=zh%7Cen&u=http://www.m8cool.com/mobile/1/632/3516.html

I think we can download windows mobile 6 on this site (if the rom 6 as they said is really windows mobile 6 ^^ ).

" You have 6.0 ROM, Hey, for a long time, have been brush-off, GPS positioning more than 5.0 Express: Oh you to the top, here is 6.0 ROM

thunder://QUFodHRwOi8vc2QuNTFzcHNvZnQuY29tL2RubS8yMDA3MDcvRX Rlblg1MDBXTTZDSFNWMS4yLnJhclpa Thunder: / / QUFodHRwOi8vc2QuNTFzcHNvZnQuY29tL2RubS8yMDA3MDcvRX Rlblg1MDBXTTZDSFNWMS4yLnJhclpa

用讯雷下载以上网址的倚天５００　６．０ＲＯＭ -- Lei downloaded by more than 500 at the sky 6.0ROM

1.用FAT格式化一张大于128M的TF卡. 1. Formatted with a FAT than the TF 128 M card.
2.将解压所得文件中的USBDLUpdate_Console.exe和temp.bin两个文件拷贝到 卡上.注意只能拷贝这两个文件到卡上.卡上不能再有其它文件. 2. Extract from the document and temp.bin USBDLUpdate_Console.exe two documents copied to the card. Attention to the only copy of these two documents to the card. Card must not make any other documents.
3.将卡插入机器.同时按下电源+录音,打针.(捅重新启动的那个) 3. Insert their cards into machines. At the same time pressing the Power + recording injections. (Disclosing that the restart)
4.耐心等待直到机器的EDGE Downlaod state 完成,机器显示usb.......yet 4. Wait patiently until the EDGE Downlaod state machinery completed, machinery show usb yet .......
注意,在刷机过程中最好插上充电器,免得刷机中电池没电.......后果..... Note that in the process of brush stuck in the best charger, so no battery in the brush machine, the consequences ..... .......
如果,不想安装Eten自带的乱七八糟的软件,请在安装系统软件倒计时按住照相键.这样可以跳过安装,如果 想用扩展rom中的某个软件,可以在"程序"中"常用工具"中"Eten软件安装"中找到并安装. If, do not want to install Eten onboard messy software, system software installed in the countdown to hold down the camera button. Installed so you can skip if you want to use the expansion of a software rom can be in the "process" of the "common tool" "Eten software installation," to find and install. "

Anyone can try that? I think it can be cool,
Regards

[jjae6]

Google translate.... chinese to english
http://209.85.135.104/translate_c?hl=en&langpair=zh%7Cen&u=http://bbs.3gzx.net/Thread.aspx%3FThreadID%3D123205

ummm.... This seems to have good appearance ... :):)



He managed to register at the forum Chinese.--ok,

I downloaded this "w800.rar" and...

This is file with a 79.4 Kb compressed and 131072kb uncompressed!!!
I saw that in the header file [0...fff] is the G500 bootloader, everything below data is filled with zeros..... FAKE!!!

On the other hand, I followed another link in the same post (m8cool), and I installed also a thunder program (in chinese) to download a thunder:// link (thunder is a application similar to a emule for china)...
But this link is for a Eten X500 with WM6 .. BAD NEWS for now....

jjae6.

PS: Thanks souley & ikar & winer22 for ... Current Donations $15.92

[solatges]

Send me the Thunder program, Ill test that rom.
Thanx (my mail is SOLATGES2@HOTMAIL.COM )

edit:
I have found it finally ^^ I will test that

Edit: Tested >>> 100% Fake rom for w800 ... :(

Can somebody upload the sms.dll from an other wm5 mobile which can receive sms?
Does it exist a program to have a sim sms incoming notification? Or is it possible to make a simple one?
Regards

[samali13]

Send me the Thunder program, Ill test that rom.
Thanx (my mail is SOLATGES2@HOTMAIL.COM )
Can somebody upload the sms.dll from an other wm5 mobile which can receive sms?
Does it exist a program to have a sim sms incoming notification? Or is it possible to make a simple one?
Regards

Here is sms.dll if you want to try:

It seems like we are the minority here, cooking custom rom is not that hard, however since the W800 is not widely available and most of the expert probably do not have them so it is up to us to get anything going if it worth our effort and time.

I did some more test on the W800,
On mine, it received sms but not stable, more often, the first sms send to it self failed, and there after it is ok but, especially after the system goes to standby mode for extended period of time, it is not receiving anymore. I tried several things, replacing sms.dll, sms_providers.dll even ril.dll. so far the best combo that I have is using the attached sms.dll and seems like sms_providers.dll does not affect much. But changing the ril.dll from XDA atom makes the gsm portion not working.

After doing some research , I found out that the ril.dll (Radio interface layer) is customized to the gsm hardware. It is the layer that sits between the various application to the gsm module. From the rom, it seems like the w800 gsm module(eten) is made by CMCS (Chi Mei Communication System). However, the one eten used in the G500 is Quadband GSM module, while the one used in W800 is Tri-Band version, meaning there is some differences in the GSM module between eten G500 and W800 (minor so as most function works). I believe this is the reason for GSM module not available after reset, and various sms behavious that we are experiencing. I am trying to locate a tri-band cmcs driver to try, and I found that the moto mpx200 might as well using tri-band cmcs gsm module. But I was not able to locate the ril.dll driver.
Also if we can locate the rillog.dll, we can enable the gsm log and can found out what's going on between the gsm and the unit.. Please look at this link

http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa922988.aspx
http://blogs.msdn.com/cenet/archive/2005/09/27/474650.aspx

I do not believe the W800 were selling in china and can not received sms. So after the Chinese New Year is over I am going to contact my friend in china and ask him to see if he can get me the chinese rom from the seller.

Mean while there is so many WM5/WM6 rom kitchen out there in the web including XDA-Developers. So if any one who are experts enough might be able to cook one for W800 that would be nice..

[jjae6]

Here is sms.dll if you want to try:
......

I do not believe the W800 were selling in china and can not received sms. So after the Chinese New Year is over I am going to contact my friend in china and ask him to see if he can get me the chinese rom from the seller.

Mean while there is so many WM5/WM6 rom kitchen out there in the web including XDA-Developers. So if any one who are experts enough might be able to cook one for W800 that would be nice..


Hi samali13
Yes, I have been saying this for some time.... We need the original ROM.
The software is tied to the hardware

For the other hand, for those who do tests,. Dll must be signed (certificated).

A good program to see if the "Dll" have started is "taskmanager"

http://www.dotfred.net/TaskMgr.htm

http://www.dotfred.net/TM/images/svcmgr.gif

This program allows you to view the "services" and "drivers" TAB and
- Start/Stop service
- Set automatic or manual
- Enable/Disable

For example, you can view the new test file pilot "ril.dll" and see if it is loaded or not, and if he has not loaded, forcing manually to load....This is what I remember, since I can not experience more. Before the crash, I had installed all Dll from all Eten models without success....should seek other DLL from a similar hardware ...

jjae6.

PS: if anyone is interested in some parts of my W800, send me a private message. ( LCD sold ) , or make your donation by paypal....Current donations: $15.92

[Lekkie]

Hi Guys, although I am an electronics design fella, the software side still slows me down, and this CECT W800 is driving me mad. It was supposd to be sent as an English phone, mine is Italian. Looking to edit or replace mxip_lang.vol and I just cannot copy it to the PC for editing. Do you guys know of a better way or am I wasting my time. Like the phone but its a pain in the neck trying to navigate in a language I don't understand. Thanks.

[jjae6]

Hi Guys, although I am an electronics design fella, the software side still slows me down, and this CECT W800 is driving me mad. It was supposd to be sent as an English phone, mine is Italian. Looking to edit or replace mxip_lang.vol and I just cannot copy it to the PC for editing. Do you guys know of a better way or am I wasting my time. Like the phone but its a pain in the neck trying to navigate in a language I don't understand. Thanks.


If you want to put the W800 in another language: english .
You must make a change in the internal REGISTRY. ( WITH A REGISTRY EDITOR PROGRAM, the taskmanager application of the previous post can serve with "Regedit" tab, see photo.)

Navigate to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\MUI and change "SysLang" value to "0409" (dword hex)....

Must see this:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\MUI]
"SysLang"=dword:00000409

and make a soft reset!

Obviously should have files in the folder "windows" ending with "*.0409.mui" example "bbresdll.0409.mui" , "commdlg.0409.mui".... (but with the expolorer windows may not see the file extension because file explore hides, you should take another "file explorer program", eg: "resco", "total commander"..)

So the windows mobile system boots and pick the language "0409" English.

With this procedure will have a "mixed system" language, because there are still many things to translate .. But rather improved.

jjae6.
PS: if anyone is interested in some parts of my W800, send me a private message. ( LCD sold ) , or make your donation by paypal....Current donations: $15.92

[Lekkie]

Many thanks JJae6, I would have been thrashing around all over the place.

[Lekkie]

Hi guys and many thanks to jjae6. I installed Task Manager which really made the job much easier, so the registry is set up. Looking through the windows file there are no 0409 files, just 0416.
Heck of a question but would you happen to have or have access to bbresdll.0409.mui and commdlg.0409. Maybe you have a WM5 sys with these files.
Many thanks. (So near but so far from fixing it!)

[jjae6]

Hi guys and many thanks to jjae6. I installed Task Manager which really made the job much easier, so the registry is set up. Looking through the windows file there are no 0409 files, just 0416.
Heck of a question but would you happen to have or have access to bbresdll.0409.mui and commdlg.0409. Maybe you have a WM5 sys with these files.
Many thanks. (So near but so far from fixing it!)

Yes, I had the ROM in English and I can get rid of all 0409.mui files..
Once you have this files, you have to copy them with a external file explorer in the /windows folder.

OR

You can also, although it is more dangerous, you can load the Eten G500 English-ROM in your W800.....But I would not make this step, if your mobile works well.

PS: if anyone is interested in some parts of my W800, send me a private message. ( LCD sold ) , or make your donation by paypal....Current donations: $15.92
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[SamThGreat_PT]

Hi there :) I've just registered in the forum.

I bought a W800 last week, and ... its does not inform when a sms arrives as also reported in this thread by many other people.

My question is, would it be worth and possible, to make an application that accesses the SIM card and notifies in the OS the user that a NEW sms has arrived? Does any described ROM's in the thread put SMS receiving notices working?

Thank you for any help you can give.
Carlos

[jjae6]

Hi there :) I've just registered in the forum.

I bought a W800 last week, and ... its does not inform when a sms arrives as also reported in this thread by many other people.

My question is, would it be worth and possible, to make an application that accesses the SIM card and notifies in the OS the user that a NEW sms has arrived? Does any described ROM's in the thread put SMS receiving notices working?

Thank you for any help you can give.
Carlos



Another for the collection!!! :eek:

There is no available ROM that works OK for now.... only original W800 chinese ROM is supposed to work fine.

I think all the programs that are designed to interact with the software at "a low level ", type "ril.dll" "etmux.dll"..., all these do not work...Because the firm loader in your W800 is another device (eten g500), and not the ROM genuine chinese.

But there is a workaround, "Simmanager" application from your W800 has an option to interact with the SIM card and manually retrieve SMS messages.

Someone could debug & disassemble (assembler machine code) simmanager.exe and see exactly who makes the program, and write a time loop program code verification with the party that takes the SMS......Ie, very difficult. :rolleyes:

My advice, return the phone to the sheller or write to your vendor and say that the phone is not working... and ask and ask for the chinese ROM...There are real mysteries to be solved.

PS: if anyone is interested in some parts of my W800, send me a private message. ( LCD sold ) , or make your donation by paypal....Current donations: $15.92

[SamThGreat_PT]

I already messaged the entity who sold it to me at ebay.

I thought in doing a Windows Mobile Service, implemented in C++ (the service part) and doing some DLL in VB.NET. My objective is too check the SIM card, for instance, on every 30 secs, and in case of checking that a new sms has arrived, would inform the user of it. I've never programmed for mobile devices, but it doesn't seem impossible..

about disassembling, I must confess I know nothing about it.. maybe a guru at work knows something about it...

PS: Sometimes the damn device loses conection to the SIM card, and that can make the proposal I did before into a complete loss of time :(.

Another thing that I've noticed is that is IMPOSSIBLE to turn off the PDA activelly.. am I right? or...

[jjae6]

I already messaged the entity who sold it to me at ebay.

I thought in doing a Windows Mobile Service, implemented in C++ (the service part) and doing some DLL in VB.NET. My objective is too check the SIM card, for instance, on every 30 secs, and in case of checking that a new sms has arrived, would inform the user of it. I've never programmed for mobile devices, but it doesn't seem impossible..



Yes, that's the idea.


PS: Sometimes the damn device loses conection to the SIM card, and that can make the proposal I did before into a complete loss of time :(.

Another thing that I've noticed is that is IMPOSSIBLE to turn off the PDA activelly.. am I right? or...


I can already test it, but you have tried to hold power button 5 seconds?
but... I think that can only be disconnected completely removing the battery.


P.S: Thanks souley , ikar , winer22 & ja_2008 for ... Current Donations $17.92

[hansworst]

Hello everyone.
Like I said, I just bought an icool800 it is the same as the w800.
In the next week it will arive.

I bought it here;
http://www.mp4mobile.net/icool800-Phone-With-smartphone-pda-bluetooth-Cellular-Phone-mobile-phone-telephone-mp3-GSM-NETWORK_P60935/

What should I do and what don't for a good working PDA and phone?

I'am Dutch, with a Dutch XP computer and a German XP computer. So! for the activesync I can choose the language.

I hope this will help me for a good working device.

Greetings Eddy

[jcostantino]

Another thing that I've noticed is that is IMPOSSIBLE to turn off the PDA activelly.. am I right? or...


Since the firmware is based on the Eten device, they (Eten) don't have an actual power button - you have to remove the battery or the battery cover itself has a magnet that trips a reed switch on the motherboard.

I was hoping the problems with this phone would have been licked by now! I ended up buying an Eten x600 and I have my share of problems, too... the ROM on the x600 isn't very mature and it just acts odd compared to a HTC device.

[jjae6]

Hello everyone.
Like I said, I just bought an icool800 it is the same as the w800.
In the next week it will arive.

I bought it here;
http://www.mp4mobile.net/icool800-Phone-With-smartphone-pda-bluetooth-Cellular-Phone-mobile-phone-telephone-mp3-GSM-NETWORK_P60935/

What should I do and what don't for a good working PDA and phone?

I'am Dutch, with a Dutch XP computer and a German XP computer. So! for the activesync I can choose the language.

I hope this will help me for a good working device.

Greetings Eddy

Yes, you can download the activesync version of their native language....
that is not the problem... :)
The problem may occur in some W800, among other problems, Not alert you when an SMS text has arrived ... ...
Since the W800 seller has made a botched eten G500 clon. (W800 Hardware is different from the original Eten G500), yet the dealer had charged that firmware within the W800 (possibly by the availability of ROM in English or other languages other than W800 Chinese original).. Good job W800 boy!! :eek:

P.S: Thanks souley , ikar , winer22, ja_2008 & Lekkie for ... Current Donations $22.92

[hansworst]

Yes, you can download the activesync version of their native language....
that is not the problem... :)
The problem may occur in some W800, among other problems, Not alert you when an SMS text has arrived ... ...
Since the W800 seller has made a botched eten G500 clon. (W800 Hardware is different from the original Eten G500), yet the dealer had charged that firmware within the W800 (possibly by the availability of ROM in English or other languages other than W800 Chinese original).. God job W800 boy!! :eek:

P.S: Thanks souley , ikar , winer22, ja_2008 & Lekkie for ... Current Donations $22.92

Thank You jjae6

I read all your postings, all your efforts to get the w800 properly working and your broken w800. All this I did before I bought the Icool800 and still I bought it.
Further I think that this Chinese company capable enough is too make a properly working rom. Maybe a Chinese forum can help for the search for a good rom. I found plenty of this forums!.

Other thoughts, I read somewhere that this machine has a firewall and the most problems are signals from outside; radio. sms gps. Are the hardware parts not blocked by this firewall?

Kind Chinese people enough, maybe someone will help. They can respond on this forum.

Greetings Eddy

[jjae6]

Thank You jjae6

I read all your postings, all your efforts to get the w800 properly working and your broken w800. All this I did before I bought the Icool800 and still I bought it.
Further I think that this Chinese company capable enough is too make a properly working rom. Maybe a Chinese forum can help for the search for a good rom. I found plenty of this forums!.

Other thoughts, I read somewhere that this machine has a firewall and the most problems are signals from outside; radio. sms gps. Are the hardware parts not blocked by this firewall?

Kind Chinese people enough, maybe someone will help. They can respond on this forum.
Greetings Eddy

Software firewall? ummmm.... Rare....I think all the problems come from the ROM software loaded, which is from another hardware different system.

We have to look & search now, the original ROM chinese ( this ROM chineses software will have a Dll's hardware controllers, and they must work well.... Like most every Chinese ... ) and explore and study subsequently to turn this chinese ROM into English or another languages.

jjae6

P.S: To all the people who help me by a $0.5 or more $...... I will send a private link to my pdf file ( High resolution images of the W800 disassembly pieces)

[winer22]

Does USB Data Cable for CECT P168 work with W800? it looks similar. And any sugestion if not receiving sms with a few providers, but works with one. Anyone solved this problem?

[winer22]

Do USB Data Cable for CECT P168 work with W800? it looks similar. And any sugestion if not receiving sms with a few providers, but works with one. Anyone solved this problem?

[jjae6]

Do USB Data Cable for CECT P168 work with W800? it looks similar. And any sugestion if not receiving sms with a few providers, but works with one. Anyone solved this problem?

Hi winner22.

No, The cable for Cect P168 is identical externally to W800, but internally welding pins are in a different way. (And for now I can not check the correct distribution of the W800 pinouts)


P.S:
If someone wants Cect P168 cables to experience welding, send me a private message....I have many P168 cables (in Europe) :
Price 15 € to Spain and 20 € for Europe.
Paypal for payment and free urgent shipping !!.
It also helps you to my W800 foundation ;)

[ikar]

my p168 cable works great with cect (icool) w800

[bvnot2b]

Hi,

I have read a few blogs which show how to create a Personal Area Network for other phones. Has anyone been able to do this for the W800? I am trying to figure out how i can share my desktop internet on W800 using my Bluetooth 2.0 adapter.

[jjae6]

my p168 cable works great with cect (icool) w800


Hi ikar
HIHAAAAAAAAA!!!!

That only means that my W800 for uploading roms and be wrong / corrupt, I thought not charged battery (not lit light), and that's why I said that the cables were different. (Or there are several models of cables, but I do not think)

That news, then cables P168 also serve for the W800!!! (Unless someone says otherwise.)

[okeanos8]

i have 2 problems ane 1 question
1)some times when my phone ring, ring only one time :confused:
and
2) again some times the alarm ring one hour before the right hour :confused:

because my english is bad and very difficult to read what is the right rom for upgrede the w800 sorry if my english is not right thank you

[jjae6]

i have 2 problems ane 1 question
1)some times when my phone ring, ring only one time :confused:
and
2) again some times the alarm ring one hour before the right hour :confused:

because my english is bad and very difficult to read what is the right rom for upgrede the w800 sorry if my english is not right thank you

No problem,you can translate a web page to your language:
http://translate.google.com

Have you installed any other program that interfere with ringtones?

Do you have the system in the correct time?

Tips and tricks for alarms:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/articles/alarms.mspx

[okeanos8]

thanks for the link for translation and alarm trick


no i dont have install nothing
and today dont read my contact from sim :confused:

[jjae6]

thanks for the link for translation and alarm trick


no i dont have install nothing
and today dont read my contact from sim :confused:


Yes, this phone is crazy. ;)

Remove the battery and put again and Softreset (stylus in the hole)

[hansworst]

Hello jjae6

My w800 arrived without customs. I promised myself to donate to you 5€ if so. So please give me your email attached with paypal!
Grt Eddy

[jjae6]

Hello jjae6

My w800 arrived without customs. I promised myself to donate to you 5€ if so. So please give me your email attached with paypal!
Grt Eddy

Thanks Eddy I send a private message.

[dAV84]

Hello

Erevybody have detected GPS in PC?

The windows media mobile (in vista) detecs good the mobile phone.

But when i search for gps nothing.....

[jjae6]

Hello

Erevybody have detected GPS in PC?

The windows media mobile (in vista) detecs good the mobile phone.

But when i search for gps nothing.....

Hello, I understand that you want to make the W800 is a external gps to Pc.
In other words, you need to create a virtual port on your pocket PC and manage it on your PC.

One of these programs can be: FransonGPSgate
Franson GpsGate is a software program that allows you to share your GPS signal with just about everything on your Pocket PC, computer and even with other computers and devices over Bluetooth or a network - GPS is shared beween several applications:

http://franson.com/gpsgate/

and a tutorial:

http://franson.com/gpsgate/screencasts/PPC_client_wizard_new/PPC_client_wizard_new.asp

Regards.

P.S: But I have not tried with this system (W800) and I do not know if you can use,

[FHEBERT]

Hello,
I've W800 CECT Phone and I've the same problem. Remove battery after reset for restart GSM module. I've not notification when I receive SMS. But the SMS is in the sim card. So, if you have one solution, I take it. Thanks a lot

[ikar]

Hello,
I've W800 CECT Phone and I've the same problem. Remove battery after reset for restart GSM module. I've not notification when I receive SMS. But the SMS is in the sim card. So, if you have one solution, I take it. Thanks a lot

after start phone turn off wireless radio (gsm+bluetooth) module and after turn on phone - it's trick for sms's:)

[jjae6]

after start phone turn off wireless radio (gsm+bluetooth) module and after turn on phone - it's trick for sms's:)

Hi ikar...


In my case this has not worked ever. (Everything is testing in your W800)....

Yes I know that there are people in the world with a W800 receiving sms perfectly, I guess it also depends on many factors such as the ROM version and the mobile phone operator .... But of course there are many people affected.

P.S:Thanks souley , ikar , winer22, ja_2008, Lekkie & Hansworst for... Current Donations $27.92

[solatges]

Originally Posted by ikar
after start phone turn off wireless radio (gsm+bluetooth) module and after turn on phone - it's trick for sms's

IIIIIIIIIIIITTTTTTT WWWWWWWWWWWOOOOOOOOOORRRRRKKKKKKKSSSSSSSSSSSS

^^ I was pessimistic but now I see : YOU HAVE A NEW SMS
Im so happy !! Thanks Ikar (it is an old trick?? I havent seen it before..)


LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL :
I have the REAL solution ^^ MOUHAHAHA, Sorry but Im so happy !!!!

TO HAVE YOUR SMS JUST REMOVE YOUR PIN CODE AT THE START OF THE PHONE (You can disable it in the phone setting)

Now,I wanna your congrats

Regards

Ps: with that,we can know the problem I think.I think that when you enter the pin code,the phone doesnt unlock the sms network.. When you have a new sms,the sim card need to look for the entered pin code and doesnt find it or find a wrong one so the sms are not showed and are stocked. Its my theory,maybe its wrong ^^

[b1n2fra]

Yes, I had the ROM in English and I can get rid of all 0409.mui files..
Once you have this files, you have to copy them with a external file explorer in the /windows folder.

OR

You can also, although it is more dangerous, you can load the Eten G500 English-ROM in your W800.....But I would not make this step, if your mobile works well.

PS: if anyone is interested in some parts of my W800, send me a private message. ( LCD sold ) , or make your donation by paypal....Current donations: $15.92
Edit/Delete Message

Can you break it down on how to change the language to english. And exactly what program I need to edit the registry. This is my second w800, my first one fell and the screen started changing colors so I bought another and I think I made a bad choice. Please help me.....

[jjae6]

Can you break it down on how to change the language to english. And exactly what program I need to edit the registry. This is my second w800, my first one fell and the screen started changing colors so I bought another and I think I made a bad choice. Please help me.....

Hello this will only work if the version installed on your W800 (e.g. v100 italian) is the same as the files to copy (eg v100 english)

But this procedure it remains a fudge, only how to experiment and the system stays still many things to translate, some text data in the registry......
and You only succeed, if goes well, a mixed system with two languages...
Not recommended!!!

The right step: by a PC program must be loaded a version of their language (eg Eten G500 (v110) english ) within your W800....

Why the other hand, the LCD colors might have been loosened the hardware connection or not making a good contact internally? Any blow on the floor?

[jjae6]

Originally Posted by ikar
after start phone turn off wireless radio (gsm+bluetooth) module and after turn on phone - it's trick for sms's
......
......
I have the REAL solution ^^ MOUHAHAHA, Sorry but Im so happy !!!!

TO HAVE YOUR SMS JUST REMOVE YOUR PIN CODE AT THE START OF THE PHONE (You can disable it in the phone setting)




Nicely workaround !!! Someone else can confirm this?

[FHEBERT]

I confirm also. It's magic !!!! Thanks a lot. I receive sms's

[b1n2fra]

Hello this will only work if the version installed on your W800 (e.g. v100 italian) is the same as the files to copy (eg v100 english)

But this procedure it remains a fudge, only how to experiment and the system stays still many things to translate, some text data in the registry......
and You only succeed, if goes well, a mixed system with two languages...
Not recommended!!!

The right step: by a PC program must be loaded a version of their language (eg Eten G500 (v110) english ) within your W800....

Why the other hand, the LCD colors might have been loosened the hardware connection or not making a good contact internally? Any blow on the floor?

I dont understand what your saying. Exactly how do I edit the registry to change to english. If I cant do it Ill get rid of this crappy phone. Phone is brand new had 4 one day and I cant take this crap.

[jjae6]

I dont understand what your saying. Exactly how do I edit the registry to change to english. If I cant do it Ill get rid of this crappy phone. Phone is brand new had 4 one day and I cant take this crap.

I am only saying that modifying the registry will not solve virtually nothing.

It is absolutely necessary that you read ALL the previous posts and ESPECIALLY THIS POST:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1840315&postcount=66

[hansworst]

Hello Solgates.
I have tried this, but, maybe I did something wrong.( there are so many settings to work with !)
Can you explain step by step which move you make, so what settings for a good receiving SMS?.



Originally Posted by ikar
after start phone turn off wireless radio (gsm+bluetooth) module and after turn on phone - it's trick for sms's

IIIIIIIIIIIITTTTTTT WWWWWWWWWWWOOOOOOOOOORRRRRKKKKKKKSSSSSSSSSSSS

^^ I was pessimistic but now I see : YOU HAVE A NEW SMS
Im so happy !! Thanks Ikar (it is an old trick?? I havent seen it before..)


LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL :
I have the REAL solution ^^ MOUHAHAHA, Sorry but Im so happy !!!!

TO HAVE YOUR SMS JUST REMOVE YOUR PIN CODE AT THE START OF THE PHONE (You can disable it in the phone setting)

Now,I wanna your congrats

Regards

Ps: with that,we can know the problem I think.I think that when you enter the pin code,the phone doesnt unlock the sms network.. When you have a new sms,the sim card need to look for the entered pin code and doesnt find it or find a wrong one so the sms are not showed and are stocked. Its my theory,maybe its wrong ^^

Did someone find out how the FM-radio works.
Mine says; No fm data come in.:rolleyes:
With the file-explorer I found in windows the help file. Maybe there is a setting file for the radio.

I have installed IGO8 maps and they are working fine ( good GPS signal input ) and easy installing.

Further I have bought by www.dealextreme.com
a Leather Case and a Silicon Protective Case
The Leather Case matches perfectly.

I there somewhere a matching cradle too buy or one I can remake? Our other stuff?

What program is a must-have?

Regards Eddy:)

[vlpp]

I have two sim cards, one more old and one more new. old card isn't working in w800, but in other phone working good. more new card is working well, I can receive and send SMS, but after soft reset gsm module isn't working also. both cards are from megafon, Russia.

[kbuba]

Can me somebody help? I deleted the programs in my W800 with the Windows Mobile Device Center. And my phone dasn't have touch screen any more, it dasn't react on touch. I cann't use it. What can I do now? How can I receive all the programs back? Can I put the image from another W800 to my phone with the program CeRegEditor? Or I have to do something other? Help me, please.

[hansworst]

Can me somebody help? I deleted the programs in my W800 with the Windows Mobile Device Center. And my phone dasn't have touch screen any more, it dasn't react on touch. I cann't use it. What can I do now? How can I receive all the programs back? Can I put the image from another W800 to my phone with the program CeRegEditor? Or I have to do something other? Help me, please.

Hello kbuba
Make a hard reset!
Doing; stylus in the softreset hole and at the same time push the powerbutton on/of from the PDA.
If I remembered it well.
Hope it works!

Regards Eddy

[solatges]

Ok,
so lets go in the Setting, and in Personnal setting,go on Phone setting.
At the security option,remove the Cross to "Pin password is required to use the phone" and then,do an hard reset.
Now the sms should work ^^
Regards

[jjae6]

Hello kbuba
Make a hard reset!
Doing; stylus in the softreset hole and at the same time push the powerbutton on/of from the PDA.
If I remembered it well.
Hope it works!

Regards Eddy

Not exactly, need a step (that I can remember.)

For make a hardreset:
1.- Stylus hole + power button at the same time (1 second and release)
2.- And now, then , press the red button phone hang.( press several seconds )

3. - Now will be a question and must answer YES with the left button (-) (below yes , press several seconds ), to perform hardreset.

jjae6

[kbuba]

Thanks.

Doing; stylus in the softreset hole and at the same time push the powerbutton on/of from the PDA...

And then , press the red button phone hang.( press several seconds )

Now will be a question and must answer YES with the left button (-) (below yes , press several seconds ), to perform hardreset.

It dasn't works. Nothing changes. I must the phone before this doing switch on or switch of?

[FHEBERT]

Where I can find the modem driver for W800 ?
I tried the driver M600, but it's not working. Thanks a lot

[jjae6]

Thanks.

Doing; stylus in the softreset hole and at the same time push the powerbutton on/of from the PDA...

And then , press the red button phone hang.( press several seconds )

Now will be a question and must answer YES with the left button (-) (below yes , press several seconds ), to perform hardreset.

It dasn't works. Nothing changes. I must the phone before this doing switch on or switch of?

I am telling memory now. Try to do the same but changing the red button by the (-) right next button

Remove the battery an put in again.

For make a hardreset:
1.- Stylus hole + power button at the same time (1 second and release)
2.- And now, then , press the (-) right buttton.( press several seconds )

3. - Now will be swow a question and must answer YES with the left button (-) (below yes , press several seconds ), to perform hardreset.

[hansworst]

Thanks again Solgates.

Starting;

I just made a hard reset.

If I go too that cross ( V ) I get a screen that says
unknown SIM status

The antenna off the phone gives a high status( four markings )
Then a screen come's
Enter pin
If I give my SIM pin, I get
Unsupported PIN
What pin should I give?


I hope you meant a soft reset.
And when do you think this procedure is neccessarry

Regards Eddy



Ok,
so lets go in the Setting, and in Personnal setting,go on Phone setting.
At the security option,remove the Cross to "Pin password is required to use the phone" and then,do an hard ?reset.
Now the sms should work ^^
Regards

[jjae6]

Where I can find the modem driver for W800 ?
I tried the driver M600, but it's not working. Thanks a lot

Are you looking at my previous posts?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1806815&postcount=47

[hansworst]

I often get an antenna marking with a cross ( something like Yx )
When I push on it I get ( turn on/off ( both buth single ) flight mode).
When I now push settings I get;
A wireless radio must be attached to use the phone.
What is the right procedure to handle this?

Regards Eddy

Maybe it is better to make a new treath called

Tutorial off the CECT W800

[solatges]

Thanks again Solgates.

Starting;

I just made a hard reset.

If I go too that cross ( V ) I get a screen that says
unknown SIM status

The antenna off the phone gives a high status( four markings )
Then a screen come's
Enter pin
If I give my SIM pin, I get
Unsupported PIN
What pin should I give?


I hope you meant a soft reset.
And when do you think this procedure is neccessarry

Regards Eddy

The soft reset is bugged on the phone. I mean by hard reset only the fact to remove the battery and put in again in the phone. You have just to remove the Sim pin fonction at the Phone setting. So when the phone starts,you wont have to enter the sim code and you can phone and RECEIVE sms.
Sorry for my bad english and the confusion.
Regards

[kbuba]

I am telling memory now. Try to do the same but changing the red button by the (-) right next button

Remove the battery an put in again.

For make a hardreset:
1.- Stylus hole + power button at the same time (1 second and release)
2.- And now, then , press the (-) right buttton.( press several seconds )

3. - Now will be swow a question and must answer YES with the left button (-) (below yes , press several seconds ), to perform hardreset.


I've done it (1, 2, 3).
I see now the text on the screen: "Tap the screen to set up your Windows Mobile-based device".

But I still cann't use touch screen.

What I have to do?

[FHEBERT]

No, i don't saw your post. Thanks I'll test.

For subject "no receive SMS",
If the deactivation of pin code allows the reception of SMS, it is still a problem and I've found a trick. It's necessary to clean sim card contact. Otherwise, you will only receive text messages contacts unregistered.

[solatges]

No, i don't saw your post. Thanks I'll test.

For subject "no receive SMS",
If the deactivation of pin code allows the reception of SMS, it is still a problem and I've found a trick. It's necessary to clean sim card contact. Otherwise, you will only receive text messages contacts unregistered.

I was pessimistic and I had tested your trick. With pin code on and no contact in my sim card contact,I dont receive sms. So please,explain better what you do.
Ps: For me,its not a problem to remove the pin code (If somebody steal your telephone,there is 90% of chances to be turned on ^^)

[FHEBERT]

Yes I can confirm also that we must remove the pin code, but I realized that I was getting only sms contacts unregistered in the sim card. So I deleted all my contacts from the sim card and now I receive text messages of all people. May be that it's a personnal problem.

[solatges]

Yes I can confirm also that we must remove the pin code, but I realized that I was getting only sms contacts unregistered in the sim card. So I deleted all my contacts from the sim card and now I receive text messages of all people. May be that it's a personnal problem.

I confirm that I have all my sms incoming from registered or unregistered contacts. Maybe you have installed and activated a black list program or something like that. You should retry cause you sould keep your contact on the sim card,its more secure.

Nb: I have noticed that a lot of programs cant use the sim repertory so copy all your sim contacts to your phone memory too and you shouldnt have no more problem.

Regards

[jjae6]

I've done it (1, 2, 3).
I see now the text on the screen: "Tap the screen to set up your Windows Mobile-based device".

But I still cann't use touch screen.

What I have to do?

Could be a mistake hardware? For example having a bad connection between the LCD and the mainboard, or simply that its LCD is broken or not functioning properly....Any problem can be on this phone.

[kbuba]

The touch screen dasn't work after deleted the programs in this phone. Maybe now there are no some drivers? I think the phone has the problem in the soft. Maybe is better try to change the soft (put the soft from another phone in my phone) ?

[hansworst]

Hello everybody,
I took an other sim-card and now I can (re)move the marking for the asking for a pin-code in the phone setting.
Nice forum, THANKS

regards Eddy

[hansworst]

Hello again.

Now the SMS is solved for a big part:), I searched why the radio doesn't work:mad:.
The radio uses com.-port 9 I discovered. Where can I find the com-ports list?
And how can I set a com.-port to FM in/output.
Changing the radio program to another comport is also not to difficult.

Thanks Eddy

[tyler200298]

Hello,
sorry for my english:
i found in gsm forum the flash for w800, w800_ta and w800c,
i'm posting on rapidshare the one for w800 and hope it can be used to solve our problems ...
http://rapidshare.com/files/96616060/w800.rar.html
thx for all you are doing for our!

[tyler200298]

This is the link for flash for w800_ta and W800c
http://rapidshare.com/files/96618368/firmwares_from_gsmforum.rar.html

good luck guys

[kbuba]

Not for SonyEricsson W800c ?

[tyler200298]

Not for SonyEricsson W800c ?

i don't know but the topic is for "chinese miracle flashes"
take the link
http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=505390&highlight=w800
ps:
i asked for how to use these files
hi all

[jjae6]

The touch screen dasn't work after deleted the programs in this phone. Maybe now there are no some drivers? I think the phone has the problem in the soft. Maybe is better try to change the soft (put the soft from another phone in my phone) ?


I do not remember right now where the icon of a program ( Within Programs or Settings), but allowed to make a hardreset software ( Install all default factory) by clicking on it, the name is very suggestive....Try this, if you can access it with the keyboard.

Edit: But of course, you can no longer access the windows touch system. I think it is a error hardware (Screen or bad memory chip)

[jjae6]

i don't know but the topic is for "chinese miracle flashes"
take the link
http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=505390&highlight=w800
ps:
i asked for how to use these files
hi all

I confirm, internally shows "sony ericsson..."

[jjae6]

Hello again.

Now the SMS is solved for a big part:), I searched why the radio doesn't work:mad:.
The radio uses com.-port 9 I discovered. Where can I find the com-ports list?
And how can I set a com.-port to FM in/output.
Changing the radio program to another comport is also not to difficult.

Thanks Eddy


Hi hansworst...
you can view the com-ports list by a "taskmanager" program.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1915319&postcount=162

Regards.
jjae6.

[hansworst]

Hello jjae6

I downloaded the

http://www.dotfred.net/TaskMgr.htm

file and I have tried it.
But how does this program works? Where do I search?

Please help?

Thanks Eddy

[jjae6]

Hello jjae6

I downloaded the

http://www.dotfred.net/TaskMgr.htm

file and I have tried it.
But how does this program works? Where do I search?

Please help?

Thanks Eddy

You can click at differents tabs : e.g. "drivers tab" o "services tab" (Tap the arrow next to the tabs) and view a "dll" associated within W800 registry (move the bar of the window), by this procedure you can discover and associate your comm ports

[FHEBERT]

Are you looking at my previous posts?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1806815&postcount=47

Hello jjae6,

I've always a problem with the modem Link.
But it's strange :

I can to connect me to my provider, but i can't to access web.
That's return "Error Network"

If I use the same configuration with an other phone (Nokia for example with an other driver of course), I don't have any problem.
If you have an idea. Thanks a lot

[jjae6]

Hello jjae6,

I've always a problem with the modem Link.
But it's strange :

I can to connect me to my provider, but i can't to access web.
That's return "Error Network"

If I use the same configuration with an other phone (Nokia for example with an other driver of course), I don't have any problem.
If you have an idea. Thanks a lot

Hi

Sorry I can not prove nothing, because I do not have the W800.
Nothing good can be expected from this W800!

But you can try to open in the PC :Control Panel - System - Hardware tab and see if the modem is installed and even vary its speed connection
http://www.modemsite.com/56k/xptip.asp

You can view a Dial-Up Networking Errors list:
http://www.modemsite.com/56k/dunserror.asp

I would also see how it responds the phone at Telnet mode console (commands "AT HAYES"),

P.S: To all the people who help me by a $0.5 or more $...... I will send a private link to my pdf file ( High resolution images of the W800 disassembly pieces), With these donations contributes to my W800 foundation. ;-)

[BlaineBR]

Hi everyone, PLEASE help me ! I've read the 24 pages on this topic, but I couldn't find an answer, if someone has already reply I'm really sorry for that.
But please how can I make my Windows XP sp2 recognizes my W800 ? I already installed the MS Active Sync 4.5 and still didn't work. I need to connect on my PC so I can install new softwares. Is necessary any additional driver or something like that ?

Windows XP sp2 (in portuguese, I'm from Brazil)
Does anyone now to make it work ?

Thank you very much in advance

Victor

[jjae6]

Hi everyone, PLEASE help me ! I've read the 24 pages on this topic, but I couldn't find an answer, if someone has already reply I'm really sorry for that.
But please how can I make my Windows XP sp2 recognizes my W800 ? I already installed the MS Active Sync 4.5 and still didn't work. I need to connect on my PC so I can install new softwares. Is necessary any additional driver or something like that ?

Windows XP sp2 (in portuguese, I'm from Brazil)
Does anyone now to make it work ?

Thank you very much in advance

Victor

The recognition process must be automatic (Plug & play).

In "The activesync icon" (taskbar): click the "right mouse button" to show a drop-down list, in "Connections Settings" - must be enabled "Allow Usb connections" and "open activesync when my device connects"

Have you tried.. to disconnect the anti-virus and firewall software (or enable ports)?
Have you tried.. you plug the cable into another computer?

Many things you can be read here:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/help/activesync/default.mspx

If all this does not work, it's possible that the cable does not make good contact or because our wonderful software phone (There is a activesync icon in the W800, or something similar, where it must choose the USB cable.)

jjae6.

[BlaineBR]

The recognition process must be automatic (Plug & play).

In "The activesync icon" (taskbar): click the "right mouse button" to show a drop-down list, in "Connections Settings" - must be enabled "Allow Usb connections" and "open activesync when my device connects"

Have you tried.. to disconnect the anti-virus and firewall software (or enable ports)?
Have you tried.. you plug the cable into another computer?

Many things you can be read here:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/help/activesync/default.mspx

If all this does not work, it's possible that the cable does not make good contact or because our wonderful software phone (There is a activesync icon in the W800, or something similar, where it must choose the USB cable.)

jjae6.

Many thanks my friend, but I think I've tried everything. Just allow me to ask you that (it might be stupid, sorry for that :) ) To connect to another PC, this PC needs to have the MS ActiveSync installed ?

Thanks again

Victor

[jjae6]

Many thanks my friend, but I think I've tried everything. Just allow me to ask you that (it might be stupid, sorry for that :) ) To connect to another PC, this PC needs to have the MS ActiveSync installed ?

Thanks again

Victor

Yes, yes if you want to transfer files using the cable through the explorer activesync.

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/activesync/activesync45.mspx

[Lekkie]

Hi everyone,

I see we have all been having such fun with these cect phones. It is a great shame actually as it is one of the few to come out of the cect family with a WM platform, even though it is a very good copy of the real Microsoft WM5.
Basically, the W800 is quite a good phone/pda, the problem is that all the OEM and SYS files can be shipped out in different languages, (mine included).
So we are left with the singular problem in that nobody has a flashable ROM that will fix this thing and dispell all the pundits.

Before reducing my phone to a pretty brick, I did take a backup of this rom and I am now in the process of building this rom back up again into a useable form, a friend of mine is also looking at the 'soft reset', or lack of it, issue. JJae6 has worked hard to delve into this thing and has also posted the full rom in .RAR. So when I get my rom built up again with a few other little nicey's added I will share it with you, but by then at least we WILL have a ROM that we can flash in, then we can look into taking this machine a little further. Anyone know of an RUU that works with this thing so that I can make it an easy job for anyone to do. The other option I am considering is to use the T-Flash card to upgrade the thing automatically all in one hit, plug it in and let it go, so to speak. Comments welcome.

[6strings]

Hi,I have been following this thread and have had the same problems others have been reporting but my worst problem is the phone reception.

The signal strength can go from 4 bars down to none,If I hold the phone up to the window at my home I can get a good signal but if I turn around
it can it can drop all the way down.This problem also happens at different locations.As a result I am constantly having calls where the voice cuts in
and out and sometimes I cant make a call.

I have put my sim card in a cheap nokia and I get constant full strength and I have flashed the rom with 2 versions for the eten g500 but it made no difference.
I also cant get into phone settings,it always says wait 15 seconds and try again although twice in the past it let me in.

Anyway I was wondering if anyone else has noticed these problems and if anyone has any suggestions. I would also like to thank everyone who has helped out in this thread.

[jjae6]

.....
Anyone know of an RUU that works with this thing so that I can make it an easy job for anyone to do. The other option I am considering is to use the T-Flash card to upgrade the thing automatically all in one hit, plug it in and let it go, so to speak. Comments welcome.

Hi lekkie.
Yes, I know the method to load the ROM from the memory card. (Sdcard method)
The user should know how to make the W800 in bootloader mode.

It is a dangerous process, and not recommended, only as a last resort, and only when it is not possible to ROM upgrade through the cable, or an error has appeared...

And if that does not work.... there is no going back (not known for now).

You can try this:


Rom loader SDcard method by jjae6:
=================================
You need to read and understand other methods to ROM load through cable and should know hot to put the W800 in bootloader mode.
Read my previous Tips pdf post..

Well....

We need a card reader/writer for PC.

Format your microSD as FAT (microSD: less or equal than 1 GB)

Rename "temp.dat" to "temp.bin" and copy to microSD card. (select last G500 w110 version rom)

Copy your "USBDLUpdate_Console.exe" (found with temp.dat in your %temp% PC directory) to microSD card.

Insert your microSD in your W800.

Put your W800 in bootloader mode.

(The battery must be charged, or the power cable connected, Not connected on the PC)

If all goes well the system will recognize the files and start to copy ROM in the system .... We must not touch anything .... When finished, the system will reboot and start as a hardreset.

Warning:This is the ultimate solution,
I have no responsibility for this procedure.
You can lose your bootloader.( If this procedure goes wrong.)

Luck!!!
jjae6.

[Lekkie]

Hi JJae6,

Thanks for that, I was running through this forum a few days ago and came across another method that is fully automatic. Unfortunately I did not have a great deal of time and shut down the laptop, since then I can't locate it again, haha. That will teach me not to take notes.

Speak to you soon.

[frablaster]

hi, guys

Yesterday I buy the PDA chinese W800 and functioned well.
Today after modifying the call sound, it blocked.
It is blocked does not leave the start of windows. already I tried disconnect the battery but it does not give.

the program activesync does not obtain connection.

For hard reset I need remove de battery , press small botton + power botton ....next ....red botton:

If I choose yes, ... locked , I need remove The battery.
If I chose No, ...last 3 minutes , All black.

I have always to remove the battery to make this.

If I remove the remove the battery, I place again, and press faster the 2 botton (small + power) ,... the display says:

USB DOWNLOADER 0013KB
USB DOWNLOADER READY
SD CARD IN
FIND SDMMC CARD
SDMMC LOAD FAIL
USB HOST IN NOT CONNECTED YET.

Help me,
Frablaster

Off: translate text with babel Fish - Sorry

[BlaineBR]

Yes, yes if you want to transfer files using the cable through the explorer activesync.

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/activesync/activesync45.mspx

My nightmare continues, I still can't transfer any file and can't install any software on this great phone :mad: . I already re-installed all my USB ports drivers, I already re-re-installed ActiveSync dozen times, and still does not work. Please see if is the same steps that happens with yours:
1-)I plug the USB on the phone and then on my laptop
2-)An icon near the clock on the taskbar appears, indicating the local connection is trying to acquire an IP address (that`s the most wierd for me, I didn't know Windows was handling my Pocket PC as a network connection) Is this normal ?
3-)After that --when the connection works and the pocket pc is able to get an IP address -- sometimes even this fails, the ActiveSync keeps turning green, and saying connecting... after a while a get the following message : "ActiveSync cannot connect to the Windows Mobile powered device. To troubleshoot the problem, click OK"

Error Msg -> http://img245.imageshack.us/my.php?image=activesyncerroraw8.jpg

please help me :)
thanks a lot in advance
Cheers

Victor

[jjae6]

My nightmare continues, I still can't transfer any file and can't install any software on this great phone :mad: . I already re-installed all my USB ports drivers, I already re-re-installed ActiveSync dozen times, and still does not work. Please see if is the same steps that happens with yours:
1-)I plug the USB on the phone and then on my laptop
2-)An icon near the clock on the taskbar appears, indicating the local connection is trying to acquire an IP address (that`s the most wierd for me, I didn't know Windows was handling my Pocket PC as a network connection) Is this normal ?
3-)After that --when the connection works and the pocket pc is able to get an IP address -- sometimes even this fails, the ActiveSync keeps turning green, and saying connecting... after a while a get the following message : "ActiveSync cannot connect to the Windows Mobile powered device. To troubleshoot the problem, click OK"

Error Msg -> http://img245.imageshack.us/my.php?image=activesyncerroraw8.jpg

please help me :)
thanks a lot in advance
Cheers

Victor


I assume that you are using the W800 as a modem, to operate the activesync the modem must be turned off.

In your laptop:
Activesync 4.5: " File" -"Connection Settings" - CHECK the box "Allow USB connections"

in your W800:
1.- Execute: "Start" -"Programs" -"Modem Link" ... What shows the windows display?

2.-Look for the icon activesync application and run ...What shows the windows display?

Regards.

P.S: To all the people who help me by a $0.5 or more $ by paypal......
I will send a private link to my pdf file ( High resolution images of the W800 disassembly pieces), this contribution helps my W800 foundation.... ;-)

[jjae6]

hi, guys

Yesterday I buy the PDA chinese W800 and functioned well.
Today after modifying the call sound, it blocked.
It is blocked does not leave the start of windows. already I tried disconnect the battery but it does not give.

the program activesync does not obtain connection.

For hard reset I need remove de battery , press small botton + power botton ....next ....red botton:

If I choose yes, ... locked , I need remove The battery.
If I chose No, ...last 3 minutes , All black.

I have always to remove the battery to make this.

If I remove the remove the battery, I place again, and press faster the 2 botton (small + power) ,... the display says:

USB DOWNLOADER 0013KB
USB DOWNLOADER READY
SD CARD IN
FIND SDMMC CARD
SDMMC LOAD FAIL
USB HOST IN NOT CONNECTED YET.

Help me,
Frablaster

Off: translate text with babel Fish - Sorry

I see this "aspirant phone" gives many surprises ....

Is it possible that the "charger" does not charge the battery, and the system can not boot properly?
Remove the battery from its W800 and also remove the SIM phone card, and not put on the inside of your W800, connect the cable to your charger and your W800. It turns on the light? The system boots right?

If the battery is good, it may be due (i think) to a memory corruption, by a software corruption or a bad fail chipset hardware.

On the other hand.... there is a hope to restore their brick W800.
I see that the bootloader starts!! (These texts: USB DOWNLOADER 0013K.... is the bootloader) .

The bootloader is used to load the ROM in the system.... But what happens if your memory is corrupted? Possibly the software does not finish loading the ROM in the mainbord memory...And you will continue with a nice brick.



P.S: To all the people who help me by a $0.5 or more $ by paypal......
I will send a private link to my pdf file ( High resolution images of the W800 disassembly pieces), this contribution helps my W800 foundation.... ;-)

[frablaster]

I see this "aspirant phone" gives many surprises ....

Is it possible that the "charger" does not charge the battery, and the system can not boot properly?
Remove the battery from its W800 and also remove the SIM phone card, and not put on the inside of your W800, connect the cable to your charger and your W800. It turns on the light? The system boots right?

If the battery is good, it may be due (i think) to a memory corruption, by a software corruption or a bad fail chipset hardware.

On the other hand.... there is a hope to restore their brick W800.
I see that the bootloader starts!! (These texts: USB DOWNLOADER 0013K.... is the bootloader) .

The bootloader is used to load the ROM in the system.... But what happens if your memory is corrupted? Possibly the software does not finish loading the ROM in the mainbord memory...And you will continue with a nice brick.



P.S: To all the people who help me by a $0.5 or more $ by paypal......
I will send a private link to my pdf file ( High resolution images of the W800 disassembly pieces), this contribution helps my W800 foundation.... ;-)

Thanks, jjae6

already I bound phone with and without battery, with and without SIM, and nothing always in the same one.

[BlaineBR]

I assume that you are using the W800 as a modem, to operate the activesync the modem must be turned off.

In your laptop:
Activesync 4.5: " File" -"Connection Settings" - CHECK the box "Allow USB connections"

in your W800:
1.- Execute: "Start" -"Programs" -"Modem Link" ... What shows the windows display?

2.-Look for the icon activesync application and run ...What shows the windows display?

Regards.

P.S: To all the people who help me by a $0.5 or more $ by paypal......
I will send a private link to my pdf file ( High resolution images of the W800 disassembly pieces), this contribution helps my W800 foundation.... ;-)


In my laptop:
It was already checked.

In my W800:
1. Start > Programs > Modem link
Connection: USB
Baud Rate: Unused
Access point name: <none>

2. To sync with a desktop computer, install ActiveSync on your computer and then connect this device.
If your company (...)


Dude, this phone is getting me nervous :mad:!!! Sometimes it does recognize sometimes does not. I already re-installed the USB ports, re-re-re-installed ActiveSync (and trust me the times that worked was just after the re-instal)

P.S.: How can I make a donation to you "fundation" :) ? I've paypal account.

Thank you so much.
Regards,

Victor

[jjae6]

In my laptop:
It was already checked.

In my W800:
1. Start > Programs > Modem link
Connection: USB
Baud Rate: Unused
Access point name: <none>

2. To sync with a desktop computer, install ActiveSync on your computer and then connect this device.
If your company (...)


Dude, this phone is getting me nervous :mad:!!! Sometimes it does recognize sometimes does not. I already re-installed the USB ports, re-re-re-installed ActiveSync (and trust me the times that worked was just after the re-instal)

P.S.: How can I make a donation to you "fundation" :) ? I've paypal account.

Thank you so much.
Regards,

Victor


It may be that the cable does not make good contact....

P.S: I send a private message to you, for my paypal account.

[jjae6]

Thanks, jjae6

already I bound phone with and without battery, with and without SIM, and nothing always in the same one.


I would, though it is dangerous, is again trying to load the ROM in your W800.


Read my previous posts (pdf tips ) how to load a ROM Through cable, and in recent posts how to load the ROM via microSD card.
But you FIRST attempt to make a load rom Through the cable(topic of PDF)

Regards.
jjae6

[frablaster]

I would, though it is dangerous, is again trying to load the ROM in your W800.


Read my previous posts (pdf tips ) how to load a ROM Through cable, and in recent posts how to load the ROM via microSD card.
But you FIRST attempt to make a load rom Through the cable(topic of PDF)

Regards.
jjae6

already I read the posts all and I continue with you doubt.
which the program to bind PC to the PDA and to place the rom?
My microSD card it does not have the temp. file for rename.