Tytn II poor performance

[samsat]

I have upgraded from the Tytn to the Tytn II.
With the faster processor I really expected much faster response bt this does not seem to be the case.
Sometimes you tap the X in the top right hand corner and you sit and wait while it decides to exit the application.

Touch the top right hand icon to see running apps, cick stop all, allthe apps clear from the list but the window still stays open forever almost as if its hung.

Try and answer a call and there is an obvious delay between touching the answer button and the call actually being answered.

I have a no name brand 1GB micro SD card in the Tytn II.

This poor performance seems intermittent.

Any clues?

The phone is running ROM 1.56.05.5 Radio 1.27.12.11

[sherpa]

I have upgraded from the Tytn to the Tytn II.
With the faster processor I really expected much faster response bt this does not seem to be the case.
Sometimes you tap the X in the top right hand corner and you sit and wait while it decides to exit the application.

Touch the top right hand icon to see running apps, cick stop all, allthe apps clear from the list but the window still stays open forever almost as if its hung.

Try and answer a call and there is an obvious delay between touching the answer button and the call actually being answered.

I have a no name brand 1GB micro SD card in the Tytn II.

This poor performance seems intermittent.

Any clues?

The phone is running ROM 1.56.05.5 Radio 1.27.12.11

Try one of the cooked ROMs and you should see improvements.

[silent_killa]

Also processor is not faster. It has exactly the same chip as TyTN.
Just double the RAM and double the storage.

And by looking at your signature you have been using cooked/hacked ROM's in original TyTN. I find these improve performance much more than the original stock ROM's.
Do as mentioned above and install a new ROM. Dutty's Touch with .NET 3.5 is my personal pref at the mo.

[johanromijn]

Also processor is not faster. It has exactly the same chip as TyTN.
Just double the RAM and double the storage.

And by looking at your signature you have been using cooked/hacked ROM's in original TyTN. I find these improve performance much more than the original stock ROM's.
Do as mentioned above and install a new ROM. Dutty's Touch with .NET 3.5 is my personal pref at the mo.

Hey mate, that's not true.
TyTN II has a completely different type of processor. It has the same speed (400Mhz), but that won't say it isn't faster. This new Qualcomm processor has to be much faster(it is faster). Only problem is that the video isn't hardware supported, and that can make it feel slower when running some apps.

[Lidberg]

Also processor is not faster. It has exactly the same chip as TyTN.
Just double the RAM and double the storage.



You really should do your homework before spouting off and confusing people. Both phones run @400Mhz, but that's about the only similarity. The two CPU's are very different. I read on here awhile back that the Qualcomm CPU is actually very similar to a dual-core CPU in that it has two distinct processors on it.

Hermes:
Processor: 400 MHz Samsung
Memory: 128 MB ROM/128 MB RAM

Kaiser:
Processor: 400 MHz Qualcomm MSM7200
Memory: 256 MB ROM/128 MB RAM

[samsat]

Thanks for the replies.
It seems that the II has the same performance problems as the I.
Makes you wonder if HTC were listening before they released the II.

Looks like I will have to make use of one of the cooked ROMs.It just amazes me that the users have to fix the shortcomings of the phone!!!

[roks]

I think theyhave increased the cpu speed and memory to compensate for the lack of direct draw.......just a conspiracy

[silent_killa]

Lol!
I used to own a TyTN as well.....
Got a bit confused since we were working on enabling the GPS One part of the chip for the TyTN a while back. Thought that this was all part of a single integral QualComm chip.
Still, raw Mhz is the same anyways....

[Moe5508]

I have upgraded from the Tytn to the Tytn II.
With the faster processor I really expected much faster response bt this does not seem to be the case.
Sometimes you tap the X in the top right hand corner and you sit and wait while it decides to exit the application.

Touch the top right hand icon to see running apps, cick stop all, allthe apps clear from the list but the window still stays open forever almost as if its hung.

Try and answer a call and there is an obvious delay between touching the answer button and the call actually being answered.

I have a no name brand 1GB micro SD card in the Tytn II.

This poor performance seems intermittent.

Any clues?

The phone is running ROM 1.56.05.5 Radio 1.27.12.11
What other/software/utilities do you have installed? I'd definitely agree that you try a few other cooked ROMs till you find one that "flies" for you...

[samsat]

Nothing else installed, just got the phone yesterday.

Which cooked ROMs are the most stable and are there any special precautions to prevent bricking the phone?

[Farsquidge]

I have a STOCK HTC TyTn and a STOCK HTC TyTnII in front of me.

The TyTynII out performs the basic TyTn in all repects. BT works PERFECT and (one thing people forget!) Media player works in standby mode as with the Wizard.

Remember, 'Kaiser' is the generic term for the model.

Many variants are out there and the 'Tilt' seems to be a very cut-down version with a poor ROM and loads of carrier bloatware. You also have to remember that because of the Broadcomm v Qualcomm lawsuit in the US(which is STILL ongoing) certain aspects of these models have been disabled to apease the lawyers!

Many soapbox activists on this forum do not understand whats really going on in the US. Blame your own legal system for the phones faults!

[slowatsch]

I can't complain about my Tytn II performance (ok the video thing, but mentioned in 100 other threads). I have no problems to close Apps and accept phone calls, ok on the phonecalls it depends if the phone was in sleep before the call, then it has 1-2 seconds to get completly rdy, but that's not a big deal.

Well I also think that the Qualcom lawsuit had/has a big influence on the preformance of the actual firmware... but i expect some improvements in the future.

[CorruptedSanity]

How does one go about selecting a rom, then installing?

How do I keep my current info,settings and applications?
Is it similar to a hard reset, where I would simply restore a previous backup and carry on?

thanks!

[abubasim]

You also have to remember that because of the Broadcomm v Qualcomm lawsuit in the US(which is STILL ongoing) certain aspects of these models have been disabled to apease the lawyers!

You seem to have inside information about this. Would you know exactly what has been disabled?
You also mentioned that your TyTN II outperforms the TyTN in all aspects. Does this include 3D and video acceleration? I.e. have you tried 3D games and would say that these play much faster on the TyTN II? And how about video? Can you play video files without experiencing problems with audio/video sync (which I see on my TyTN II but didn't see on the JASJAM) and poor performance when playing videos with larger frames than 320x240? And how about poor quality drivers for sound that affect the overall performance of the device? This forced me to disable audio feedback on screen taps as the sound would make the device more sluggish to respond to taps.

. . .

Isn't it ironic that HTC chose the Qualcomm chip even though the Samsung processor was fully supported by drivers and provided all features required by the TyTN II, and despite Qualcomm's legal problems and the threats from the US government of stopping the sale of all Qualcomm-based devices in the US, and after having made this choice it's not even properly supported?!

Doesn't this make you think that there were some hanky-panky going on backstage? What I am implying here is that Qualcomm bribed HTC management to choose their chip.

[Lidberg]

How does one go about selecting a rom, then installing?

How do I keep my current info,settings and applications?
Is it similar to a hard reset, where I would simply restore a previous backup and carry on?

thanks!

Read the Wiki. Think of it as installing a new OS on your computer. It will wipe everything out. I wouldn't recommend restoring backups between different ROM versions. It would be like restoring a full backup from WinXP w/no SP to a machine that had SP2.