Very Surprised... And disappointed...

[dharvey4651]

I recently switched to Sprint and opted to buy the Mogul as opposed to the Touch thanks to the larger ROM space but was shocked and disappointed in the lack of activity and ROM development here as opposed to the over in the Wizard Forum where I came from. It seems that almost once a week a new ROM is released for the Wizard but here in the Titan forum there is next to none. I have only seen a few custom ROMs and some of the problems I have read about and this only discourages me from wanting to update. I really liked having the HTC Touch look and feel built into ROM on my Wizard but because noone seems to want to create a ROM for the Titan that has the same total look and feel, I had to search for applications to add to my Mogul to give it that same look because of this my RAM is very limited and cannot run very many applications at the same time without having serious lag or having to soft-reset because of lock ups thanks to low virtual memory.

Aren't there any master chefs out there that can cook up something for the mogul that have the COMPLETE touch look?
http://img456.imageshack.us/img456/7941/touchlg1.jpg

I know there are several different carriers and that these are CDMA devices but isn't there a way to create a universal ROM for all of the carriers that will adapt to whatever settings you need as seen for many other phones?

Or creating ROMs for a specific carrier that can be used on other carriers models with only minor customization?

For example: Create a ROM that is designed to work for the Sprint Mogul only to maintain Sprint's connection settings and not have to re-configure the device after a ROM upgrade but also have smaller packages that can adapt that ROM to other carriers?

I would say that this is just food for thought.

[kmartburrito]

Hey man, welcome! You made the same move I made. You forget it took us a while to get good roms for the Wizard too, but we finally got them. This forum is a lot younger than the wizard, and I think it will eventually get to the same spot.

We didn't even have a custom rom available at all a while back, but now thanks to some gifted individuals we have several to choose from.

Just be patient, new things come every day :)

[dharvey4651]

I'm really looking forward to it. :)

[ryanwood]

Trade in your Mogul for a Touch and you will be happy....

Mogul hasn't been around for too long and you are expecting too much too soon.

[jhendrickson]

Trade in your Mogul for a Touch and you will be happy....

Mogul hasn't been around for too long and you are expecting too much too soon.

I'm not following your logic here. The Touch is a newer device than the Mogul!

[dcd1182]

my kitchen and dogguys kitchen are available, all the tools exist, nothing is stopping anybody.
two of your screenshots of what you want came from my custom rom post. everything is out there and the roms that have been put together by different people just dont 100% suit what you personally want. you should try a kitchen.

im playing with the idea of a touch rom. but you guys should be able to make anything you want.

[defaultdotxbe]

I'm not following your logic here. The Touch is a newer device than the Mogul!
but it seems his ultimate goal is to make the mogul look like the touch, but the touch looks like the touch right out of the box :)

[Dishe]

^ Yeah, I thought it was pretty clear what he was saying.

[jhendrickson]

Guess I should wait to post till AFTER I get my first cup of coffee down :P

[dharvey4651]

two of your screenshots of what you want came from my custom rom post.
Yes I did borrow those screenshots as a way to show what I was looking for since I could not find them anywhere else.

but it seems his ultimate goal is to make the mogul look like the touch, but the touch looks like the touch right out of the box :)
Yes my goal is to make the Mogul look like the Touch because personally I am not satisfied with the lack of device storage on the Touch. If I was to trade in my Mogul for the Touch I would be downgrading to virtually the same exact thing I had before, a Wizard which has 128Mb of ROM and 64Mb of RAM... Not interested...

I enjoy having a larger device storage and if it is possible to have the Touch look and maintain my 256Mb of device memory that would be great.

Unfortunately I do not have the kitchen skills nor do I really have the Mogul skills yet. I just recently upgraded like a week ago not even and came over to this part of the forum seeing as I no longer have a Wizard but a Titan. Ask me a question about the Wizard and odds are I could answer you but I'm totally new to the Titan board and was just shocked that there wasn't really too much going on. Thats all.

I have that total Touch look already, but they're all 3rd party apps installed and it just hogs up space and slows down the device. If they were in ROM already, I wouldn't have that problem. Not to mention that having a larger device memory, the Titan could probably smoothly handle a 16Mb pagepool with no problem and with the 400MHz processor it would be stupid fast and thats just how I like it. Not having it slow down to a crawl and having to soft-reset every 12 hours...

[dcd1182]

Yes my goal is to make the Mogul look like the Touch because personally I am not satisfied with the lack of device storage on the Touch. If I was to trade in my Mogul for the Touch I would be downgrading to virtually the same exact thing I had before, a Wizard which has 128Mb of ROM and 64Mb of RAM... Not interested...

I enjoy having a larger device storage and if it is possible to have the Touch look and maintain my 256Mb of device memory that would be great.

Unfortunately I do not have the kitchen skills nor do I really have the Mogul skills yet.

before everybody jumps on you...the touch has 128mb ram

i do understand your reasoning, i made a rom today that is 'touch style', the only issue i have is that the cube interferes with calibration. it works if you disable the welcome screen, otherwise hangs there. i need to make it boot and let u calibrate, then put the cube files in startup, and i have a game to watch in a little bit :) maybe this weekend i will throw it together if i am bored...but the different touchflo/cube distributions out there are very rapidly updated and its pointless to try and widely support a tf/cube rom. if i post you a rom its just some thing i threw together.

however this is my point again, the stuff is out there for the titan and anybody can throw together any rom they want any time. i think right now you see less activity on this device because most of the people working on it are more focused on improving the OS before making it fancy. i think most people are playing around with a few wm6 versions and will settle on one (or just use whatevers newest), eventually qualcomm will put together better display drivers, htc will improve bt drivers...

[pflatlyne]

Trade in your Mogul for a Touch and you will be happy....

Mogul hasn't been around for too long and you are expecting too much too soon.

yes,that is true,and in a few weeks there should be a new hacked rom for the touch that will give it a slide out hardware keyboard..... oh wait,never mind,there wont be. Guess Ill keep trying to make my mogul look like a touch. :-)

[dharvey4651]

before everybody jumps on you...the touch has 128mb ram

i do understand your reasoning, i made a rom today that is 'touch style', the only issue i have is that the cube interferes with calibration. it works if you disable the welcome screen, otherwise hangs there. i need to make it boot and let u calibrate, then put the cube files in startup, and i have a game to watch in a little bit :) maybe this weekend i will throw it together if i am bored...but the different touchflo/cube distributions out there are very rapidly updated and its pointless to try and widely support a tf/cube rom. if i post you a rom its just some thing i threw together.

however this is my point again, the stuff is out there for the titan and anybody can throw together any rom they want any time. i think right now you see less activity on this device because most of the people working on it are more focused on improving the OS before making it fancy. i think most people are playing around with a few wm6 versions and will settle on one (or just use whatevers newest), eventually qualcomm will put together better display drivers, htc will improve bt drivers...

I am not disagreeing with you because I just did some looking on eBay for the Touch through Sprint but I have seen so many sellers saying it only has 128Mb of ROM and 64Mb of RAM but then some others say that the memory is double that, which compliments what you just said. I don't know. I've never played with a Touch but will have the chance in like a week because my store is getting them in soon.

EDIT:

I have found some disputing evidence to what you have told me in the form of an official review. Click HERE (http://reviews.cnet.com/smartphones/htc-touch-unlocked/4505-6452_7-32465595.html) for the link.


Armed with a 201MHz TI OMAP850 processor and 128MB ROM/64MB RAM, general operation was a tad slow. With about 12MB of free program memory, there was often a few-second delay when opening applications. At first we thought our device just didn't register our touch commands, but it was really a performance issue. Launching any of the multimedia functions really did a number on the Touch, as the screen sometimes froze midway between the music player and menu screen. This happened on a number of occasions, and got to be quite frustrating.
This quote is located under performance in the link above. If this is wrong and the HTC Touch that Sprint in the United States is selling is in fact double what that quote says then I will stand corrected.

[wsparvis]

.....If this is wrong and the HTC Touch that Sprint in the United States is selling is in fact double what that quote says then I will stand corrected.

It's wrong. The Sprint CDMA Touch (HTC Vogue) does indeed have 2x CPU and 2x memory compared the GSM Touch.

[dcd1182]

is this the cube you are wanting?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=343583

[dharvey4651]

is this the cube you are wanting?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=343583

Thats nice and all but not entirely what I am looking for. Until I can upgrade the RAM in my device(which I discovered is nearly impossible), I would much rather just have a Touch style ROM for my Mogul. I like the Touch but I prefer devices with that nice, convenient, easy to use qwerty keyboard and unfortunately the Touch doesn't have that nice, easy to use, convenient feature and the Touch Dual is WAY out of my price range for now. Not to mention from all of the threads I have read they are GSM only and Sprint is CDMA so I couldn't use it if I could afford it.

[dcd1182]

would you mind linking me to the installation cab(s) for the cube you do have in mind then?

you mention in post 1 that you already have your phone setup with the applications pictured in screenshots installed..i see the cube.

[dharvey4651]

Actually it was just a cab that I found here on the forum. (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=343583) it was kinda buggy and I didn't really like it that much but it was something.