All I want for christmas is to be able to use what I paid for

[av0]

I've been modifiying PDA phones for a while now but this is something I can't get over/should have expected from Sprint. GPS is present yet unusable on my Titan. I just now unlocked my titan and flashed to dcds 1.5.7/1.40.0 and I am hoping to be able to use the GPS with tomtom 6.

The thing that puzzles me is I read a post stating an indiviudal was using tomtom 6 on his mogul! how did he do it?

[dcd1182]

I've been modifiying PDA phones for a while now but this is something I can't get over/should have expected from Sprint. GPS is present yet unusable on my Titan. I just now unlocked my titan and flashed to dcds 1.5.7/1.40.0 and I am hoping to be able to use the GPS with tomtom 6.

The thing that puzzles me is I read a post stating an indiviudal was using tomtom 6 on his mogul! how did he do it?

he must be using a bluetooth gps device

[av0]

so for now there is no way out? Is there any revision of this phone (Alltell, etc.) that has GPS enabled for application use?

[Dishe]

av0, let's set the record straight here for a moment.

The mogul uses new hardware- chips that haven't been seen inside of Windows Mobile devices before. These chips allow services that haven't been available before either, such as EVDO rev. A and possibly assisted GPS.

Now, these chips may be capable, and HTC may be able to write drivers for it, but Microsoft never released the proper modules to control and take advantage of them. So, in the case of Rev A, we're waiting for MS to update some of their code so that HTC can release a new firmware, which will then be distributed to Sprint, Alltel, VZ, etc...

But for now, we have to play the waiting game. It doesn't exist on ANY carrier just yet!

Now, the GPS is the same thing... this particular GPSOne chip is new to the windows mobile scene. It supports some pretty nifty modes, including real stand alone GPS with an assisted mode- IE, uses the tower triangulation to get an even faster fix, then switch over to standalone mode (as opposed to the traditional way which is currently found in some PPCs, in which getting the initial fix can take up to 5-10min). Its in the chip specs to do this, but as far as I know MS's GPS modules only support standalone GPS information (no assisted faster fix), and its only been a rumor that Sprint/HTC would actually take advantage of this capability anyway. Either way, the phone was released before Windows Mobile was ready to use these higher-end features. We're waiting for them to catch up.

In the mean time, they removed GPS from the advertising, and Rev A has always been "coming soon".

Sit back. The rest of the phone finally works great now (thanks to 2.17 ROM, and a lot of great custom roms based on it), so one thing at a time. This great phone is going to get even better soon!

[borealcool]

Concerning GPS...

Our Titans have the chipset for it and according to this FCC document (https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/prod/oet/forms/blobs/retrieve.cgi?attachment_id=738594&native_or_pdf=pdf), some of us (excluding Sprint Moguls (http://discussion.wmexperts.com/showpost.php?p=1381569&postcount=29)) may have the antenna as well.

Someone in this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=307387&page=3) extracted an Italian version of Kaiser's GPS files which I installed one morning and after playing around with it for about an hour, I couldn't get anything going. My Titan is cradled next to a large window all day and by early afternoon, I noticed a GPS icon in my top bar. When I picked up the phone, it went away and I was never able to reproduce it. I have no idea if it means I was receiving a GPS signal, but I'm hoping developments in activating the Touch Dual's GPS could lead to a working solution for Titan.

[Dishe]

Concerning GPS...

Our Titans have the chipset for it and according to this FCC document (https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/prod/oet/forms/blobs/retrieve.cgi?attachment_id=738594&native_or_pdf=pdf), some of us (excluding Sprint Moguls (http://discussion.wmexperts.com/showpost.php?p=1381569&postcount=29)) may have the antenna as well.

Someone in this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=307387&page=3) extracted an Italian version of Kaiser's GPS files which I installed one morning and after playing around with it for about an hour, I couldn't get anything going. My Titan is cradled next to a large window all day and by early afternoon, I noticed a GPS icon in my top bar. When I picked up the phone, it went away and I was never able to reproduce it. I have no idea if it means I was receiving a GPS signal, but I'm hoping developments in activating the Touch Dual's GPS could lead to a working solution for Titan.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the Touch Dual have the same chipset as the Kaiser?
The Titan uses a slightly modified Qualcomm chip for CDMA, and as such it should not be any suprise that the drivers from the GSM chipset don't work.
I'm of the opinion that the GPS control part of the chips are not the same because of the way CDMA uses the Assisted part of AGPS. Trying to port drivers from another existing device is a fruitless effort as no one has yet written drivers for our particular chipset.
THEY ARE NOT THE SAME.

Just sit back and wait for Sprint or someone to release it first. Then we can start porting it to all the other devices with this chip.

[av0]

good bit of info on this thread. thanks guys

[TC1]

The Titan uses a slightly modified Qualcomm chip for CDMA, and as such it should not be any suprise that the drivers from the GSM chipset don't work.
I'm of the opinion that the GPS control part of the chips are not the same because of the way CDMA uses the Assisted part of AGPS.

** Correct.

[j3oomerang]

if this new update from sprint/htc brings rev a and GPS, will that make it possible to enable the GPS on the verizon xv6800 (by flashing the rom or whatever it takes)

[pimpindexter]

OMG the doors to the heavens above have opened.

[yakky]

I'm not even asking for that much! I just want the phone to not lockup and I want to hear my callers on bluetooth! This phone was so rushed out the door is shows bad.