Hidden Wifi/GPS - Possibility to unlock?

[jcostanza4]

I'm starting this thread to research the hidden possibilities in the HTC Touch Dual (nike). Alot of questions have been asked about wifi capabilities in the dual and how they may be there just locked by the manufacturer. I hope this thread will help us answer wether further capability is unlockable via roms, cabs, drivers, or registry changes.

In an article about the upcoming WM6.1 I found these interesting finds.
http://blogs.zdnet.com/mobile-gadgeteer/?p=707

"Qualcomm see the decreasing cost of the smartphone spurring growth in adoption of these devices. Steve talked about the Qualcomm/Microsoft collaboration effort and the MSM 7xxx series of chipsets we see in today’s latest and greatest devices. These chipsets include GPS, media, applications processors and more in a single, low battery consumption configuration. There are several variants of their chips in mobile devices today with some having everything inside and some having limitations desired by the manufacturer or carrier for various reasons (cost, size of the device, targeted market, etc)."


The HTC Touch Cruise (polaris) has GPS & Wifi with the Qualcomm® MSM 7200, 400MHz processor - The same processor the HTC Touch Dual (nike) has. There would be no reason to use additional hardware in the Polaris if the processor provides this capability.

[madds]

already posted at other thread that when someone installs the various cabs that people are trying, when we go to wlan settings mac adress doesn't appear.
Usualy appears even when wifi is off.

Regarding gps i tried using google maps to see if detects something but the only com port that kinda works is com 7 but it turns bluetooth on, so it must be a bluetooth port...

Here you have a link for the japanese version that will be available in january.

NO GPS, but has WIFI and FM RADIO.

wouldn't mind having fm radio on my nike!!!!

http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=847

[MTM]

Here you have a link for the japanese version that will be available in january.

NO GPS, but has WIFI and FM RADIO.http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=847
There's neither WiFi nor FM radio in the japanese version. PDAdb.net is just wrong (as many times before).

http://www.nttdocomo.co.jp/product/business_model/ht1100/

[madds]

hmmm thank's for the reply...

our bad....

[who_else]

<sigh> pearl white....

And what are they talking about FM? Someone speaking Japanese? :)

[madds]

if you tranlate the page you can see the word FM appearing...

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nttdocomo.co.jp%2Fpro duct%2Fbusiness_model%2Fht1100%2F&langpair=ja%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF8

IT HAS FM RADIO

[Klutsh]

Chainfire:
Just wondering if you could post a RegDump (possibly directory/file listing) of your Kaiser?

I think we are still missing some registry entires.
One such entrie:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\CommManager\WLAN]
"DeviceName"="{98C5250D-C29A-4985-AE5F-AFE5367E5006}\TNETW12511"

If I know how to extract files from Rom's I'd probably stand a better chance at all this.

[empika75]

this thread has been dealing with wifi hidden capacities (or not)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=348912

[MTM]

if you tranlate the page you can see the word FM appearing...

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nttdocomo.co.jp%2Fpro duct%2Fbusiness_model%2Fht1100%2F&langpair=ja%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF8

IT HAS FM RADIO
It does indeed seem to have an FM radio. It doesn't change much, though (hardware-wise at least, as you would have to use the headset as an antenna).

My point is, don't trust blindly on PDAdb.net. You can find many errors if look around in there (though most of it seems to be right).

[Chainfire]

Chainfire:
Just wondering if you could post a RegDump (possibly directory/file listing) of your Kaiser?

I think we are still missing some registry entires.
One such entrie:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\CommManager\WLAN]
"DeviceName"="{98C5250D-C29A-4985-AE5F-AFE5367E5006}\TNETW12511"

If I know how to extract files from Rom's I'd probably stand a better chance at all this.

Heh you are right, I did miss that one. Can't make a complete listing right now but I can send you a comparison between the two devices I made yesterday.. In these files 'M' stands for missing and 'D' stands for different... If you send me back two files with only the lines of the files and registry entries you want I can make it into a patch by pressing a button...

I'll try sending you a full listing and dump (instead of the compare files from yesterday) later today.

[Klutsh]

I'll try sending you a full listing and dump (instead of the compare files from yesterday) later today.

Hi, thanks for that, it would seem that there are quite a few registry keys missing, I've only searched for GPS keys so far, the main ones needed for interfacing with the GPS driver seem to be missing.

But even after going though and making my own registry file, GPS still does not work, nothing appears on com 4.

[Chainfire]

Hi, thanks for that, it would seem that there are quite a few registry keys missing, I've only searched for GPS keys so far, the main ones needed for interfacing with the GPS driver seem to be missing.

But even after going though and making my own registry file, GPS still does not work, nothing appears on com 4.

Have you tried COM7 ?

[J273]

Have you tried COM7 ?


yep think its comm 7 on the dual

[dnts]

I think registry keys and DLLs won't help in this case. The MSM7200 GPS function should be enabled by a low level hardware driver that is probably loaded after reset before the OS comes on. Then the OS either sees the GPS port or not. An expert's help is thus needed in this case.
As for WIFI, someone mentioned the lack of MAC address for the WIFI. Again - this is a HW issue as the MAC address is coded in ROM (unerasable part of the FLASH) just like IMEI. And if it is not there to begin with... hmmm...
But we can certainly look for one if we have access to the ROM code - it is a 6-digit number that should begin with 00h 18h 41h. If we correlate a few devices that have this string in the same location than maybe there is something to it (WiFi included).

[Klutsh]

I was trying GPS test, it scanned all com ports, it did halt on Com7, but now it just skips it.

I think a hard reset and start again is in order.

[J273]

I was trying GPS test, it scanned all com ports, it did halt on Com7, but now it just skips it.

I think a hard reset and start again is in order.

Cant remember now as ive had to return mine as im replacing it with a 20key model..but isn't there 2 comm7's

ones called comm7 and the others GDP7...or somthing like that....cant remember exactly now.

[SplatMan_DK]

Hi developers.

Please note the following post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1733688#post1733688

I am not much of a mobile/lowlevel coder, but I would be happy to help in other ways.

brgds

- Jesper

[bxwatso]

I'm starting this thread to research the hidden possibilities in the HTC Touch Dual (nike). Alot of questions have been asked about wifi capabilities in the dual and how they may be there just locked by the manufacturer. I hope this thread will help us answer wether further capability is unlockable via roms, cabs, drivers, or registry changes.

In an article about the upcoming WM6.1 I found these interesting finds.
http://blogs.zdnet.com/mobile-gadgeteer/?p=707



That web page also indicates that GSM850 is supported. For a USA user, that would be the most important thing of all. There has been some speculation that the phone can support GSM850 now. Perhpas the Japanese ROM will turn it on.

[Juggalo_X]

I have an htc s640 (iris 100) has the exact same specs as the HTC Touch and my wifi is enabled. i know it has GPS but its disabled. if you need anything from my registry id be happy to help. only difference between these phones that i can tell is the touch screen. rest of the specs seem to be the same.

[Klutsh]

I have an htc s640 (iris 100) has the exact same specs as the HTC Touch and my wifi is enabled. i know it has GPS but its disabled. if you need anything from my registry id be happy to help. only difference between these phones that i can tell is the touch screen. rest of the specs seem to be the same.

That phone has a Qualcomm MSM7500 chip, the Dual has a Qualcomm MSM7200 chip.