Is HDSPA a RIP OFF! Lets find out!

[bsw11]

I have an ATT-Tilt, I keep hearing that the high speed ATT 3.5g is supposed to go at 3mb down - All I get is somewhere between 100-700kbs Max in Los Angeles. My friend is on Verizon and he gets easily double my max rate all the time. He can watch his slingbox no problem, I cannot unless I am Wi-Fid.

So I think we should all use this post to see just how bad GSM high speed (H or U) is around the world.

I used http://dslreports.com/mspeed?jisok=1&more=1 and clicked on the 1mb test. To repeat use the back button and click 1mb again. I use IE as the other browsers don't seem to work. I have run the test in various spots around LA.

On each reply how about using this format:
Location = Los Angeles, CA USA or City, Country outside US.
Min = 100kbs
Max = 700kbs
Test Used - dslreports 1mb

PLEASE INCLUDE YOUR LOCATION!

Also, if anyone knows of a better test, let us know.
Also, if anyone knows if or when the GSM network will get better, please report.
As far as I am concerned, if this is the status Quo, I am not going to pay them $40 bucks a month for an inferior data service - better phones or not.

[dolbe]

I think you are mixing up megabytes/second with megabits/second the HTC Kaiser has a max connection speed of 3.2Mb/s not 3.2MB/s

[unorthodoxx]

I used http://dspreports.com/mspeed?jisok=1&more=1 and clicked on the 1mb test. To repeat use the back button and click 1mb again. I use IE as the other browsers don't seem to work. I have run the test in various spots around LA.



Bad link it should be dslreports

I tested out of curiosity:

browser OPERAMINI
Location = Fairfield, CA USA
Min = 594kbs
Max = 1492kbs
Test Used - dslreports 1mb

I'm lacking 2.1 MB

[grizzley]

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[grizzley]

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[fb401]

Location = Largo, MD (outside of Wash DC)
Max = 810 kbit/s
Test Used - dslreports 1mb

[bsw11]

I think you are mixing up megabytes/second with megabits/second the HTC Kaiser has a max connection speed of 3.2Mb/s not 3.2MB/s

I clearly show mbs not MBs - I know the difference!

Look at the results - you can see so far only one area that looks like its getting the real deal - probably near SF cause they don't want a full tech-y revolt.

Also please just type in the results and make sure you include a location.

[aaronsmckee]

705 kbit/sec

San Antonio Texas

[netnerd]

then DO NOT get Eten x800 VGA phone if u want 3.5G HSDPA!
this phone is advertised as 3.5G HSDPA, but all u get is regular 3g UMTS speed at a max of 384k!
good thing this company is not located in USA, otherwise they will get lawsuits for false advertising!

[dieKatze88]

guys, You need to understand that it Can do 3.6mb/s

My Cable internet is rated so that it Can do 12mb/s I rarely get over 2 or 3 mb/s. And that's with a wire.

Wireless connections are even more fragile. if you're getting 700-800kb/s then that's fine. It works the same way a Wifi Access point does. The Further you are from the tower, the crappier the connection is. My tower is about 1300 feet away according to Google maps and I'm getting... lets see here. 672kb/s. I'm also inside. Its also crappy weather outside.

Another factor is where the data being downloaded is being cached. Flash isn't the fastest thing ever, but the ROM Flash inside your phone is WAY faster than the SD Card, and I'm storing my cache to the SD Card.

Another thing, Just like Wifi, More users = Less bandwidth for everybody.

There's even more factors I'm not going to get into.

Devices, Radio versions, Use of Proxies.


Also, UMTS is not GSM high speed, its a completely new technology, and HSDPA is a bolton for it. They are different. UMTS is just the 3g evolution path for GSM according to the world. Keep in mind, NTT DoCoMo went to UMTS (I know, FOMA first. they're going to Plain UMTS now) from PDC.

[yeantbron]

Location = GAP, FRANCE, EU
browser PIE
607kbit/sec
0.615s latency
14.148s d/l time
Test Used - dslreports 1mb

GPRS Monitor tell me 1028kbit/s (max)...

[karch4]

Cleveland, Ohio
1565 kbit/s
0.334s latency
5.524s d/l
Opera Mini

[moorefire]

Cleveland, Ohio
1565 kbit/s
0.334s latency
5.524s d/l
Opera Mini

wow, I dont get those speeds w/ my home wi-fi (I got 1000-1200)

I'm getting:
450-550kbit/s w/ HDSPA
around 250 w/ EDGE when I lose the faster tower around my house
w/ internet exploder

in easton, pa
w/ a tilt w/ dutty's rom ver 6

[cincy1020]

Cincinnati, Ohio (USA)

PIE

741 kbit/s

[bsw11]

As to the comment about actual vs real bandwidth - DUH!
Its not about that at all, its about the ability to actually use their 3g to play media of any type.

So here is another test to run - if you have TCPMP setup correctly - go to YouTube.com - use classic mode and try to play any video on their site.

For me, WIFI plays fine, 3g rarely starts up TCPMP.

Can anyone explain why this is the case?

[dieKatze88]

As to the comment about actual vs real bandwidth - DUH!
Its not about that at all, its about the ability to actually use their 3g to play media of any type.

So here is another test to run - if you have TCPMP setup correctly - go to YouTube.com - use classic mode and try to play any video on their site.

For me, WIFI plays fine, 3g rarely starts up TCPMP.

Can anyone explain why this is the case?

Nope, especially since I can stream using YTPocket.com no problem over UMTS (HSDPA Disabled) and sometimes, even over EDGE. Depending on network conditions.

[JohnnyGTO]

Fountain Hills, AZ
855 kbit/s
0.507s latency
1.079s d/l
IE

Fountain Hills, AZ
1630 kbit/s
0.457s latency
5.481s d/l
Opera Mini


both varied with each successive test but Opera was always faster.

[DeviantOne]

I do not care how fast a wired server in Norway can download data. Remember, mini is using a proxy server. That is why it will always report faster speeds. Totally useless.

Please stop using Opera Mini as a speed test. It is totally inOperaBle!

What I am trying to find out is Tilt upload speeds. I am in Houston, which supposedly has HSUPA now, and I have an 8525 and always wanting more. Has the Tilt really tested faster internet speeds than the 8525 (using PIE)?

I'm also in the market for video out, which would exclude the Tilt if I find something better.

[unorthodoxx]

Using PIE Fairfield, cali

789 kbit/sec
0.426s latency
10.795s d/l time.

[tripleA]

Location = Saudi Arabia, Riyadh (Faisaleya Area)
Max = 865 kbit/s
Test Used - dslreports 1mb
Operatort: Mobily

[njmarchetti]

To my knowledge At&t has not flipped the switch on the 3.6 mb/s download speeds yet.

Right now they are still at 1.8 mb/s (at least in most areas). They were supposed to have upgraded the network by now, but I have not heard anything official saying that it has been completed yet.

Also, try running another speed test on your pc while tethered to your device. I almost always get 300-500 kbps faster than on my phone.

Speed Test:

978 kbit/sec
0.45s latency
8.751s d/l time

dslreports mobile - 1 mb file

Westlake, Texas - At&t

[elypsar]

Does anybody have any insight as to when ATT plans on upping our bandwidth?

I'm in the Indianapolis area and still getting speeds between 500-700kb/s on average, sometimes as low as 100kb/s.

[irus]

Does anybody have any insight as to when ATT plans on upping our bandwidth?

I'm in the Indianapolis area and still getting speeds between 500-700kb/s on average, sometimes as low as 100kb/s.

when the new iphone comes out :)

also you should be careful on how you display your speed test because in post 1 it says 1.8mb/s so is that 1.8mega bytes or 1.8 mega bits cause after all there are 8 bits in a byte. just trying to make it clear

[robosiris]

417 kbit/s (HSDPA enabled)
0.43s - latency
20.07s - d/l time
1MB download
PIE
AT&T, Miami, Florida

Shameful, lol.

[jinner]

Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada
Max: 577 kbit/s
Test Used: dslreports / 1MB

=(

quick question, I see people saying they can force their phone to only use UMTS and not HSDPA. How to do?
My radio signal shows "3G" when it is connected.

[Bardia Garsha]

Location = London, UK
Operator = Orange

TyTN_II
745 kbit/sec
0.579s latency
11.568s d/l time

SPVM3100
762 kbit/sec
0.705s latency
11.444s d/l time

Do ROMs have anything to do with these results? i.e. could the Kaisesr show a different result if instead of Dutty's ROM I was using another ROM ?

[SprMa]

Location: Ansbach, Germany
Operator: T-Mobile

Device: MDA Vario III (HTC Kaiser)
414 kbit/sec
0.24s latency
20.01s d/l time

And that's having a big T-Mobile tower right in front of my window


SprMa

[elypsar]

when the new iphone comes out :)

also you should be careful on how you display your speed test because in post 1 it says 1.8mb/s so is that 1.8mega bytes or 1.8 mega bits cause after all there are 8 bits in a byte. just trying to make it clear

When will that be?

I don't think anybody is mistaking megabits for megabytes here, just lazy typing. One megabyte per second on my phone would be absolutely amazing ;)

[kramerica2]

Don't check with Opera mini, it doesn't show the right result.

Anyway:

Location: Israel
Device: Athena
Browser: PIE
Speed: 887 kbit/sec