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kaefers
2nd March 2008, 03:41 AM
Getting my Tom Cruise next week and can't wait to use a happy cooked rom!

Thanks!

kaefers

Hiznibz54
2nd March 2008, 05:53 PM
Looking forward to all the great things you will be able to do.
Keep it up!!
Confirmation number: 5VR51006G94739901
Best of luck, Niall

geomall
8th March 2008, 12:15 PM
thanx. got the donation but im focusing on finishing this 4.0 of my athena rom as fast as possible to get back to work on polaris. i hope to start beginning of next week. only reason im on here is to say thanx for the donation and to have a note on here to update the post whenever i get one sec. we are very close people. on ebat the htc touch cruise is about 720USD and i decided to go the cheepest route and get the htc version. i believe about 40 left.

10 USD from Hiznibz54
1 USD from HACI MEHMET AKKUS
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total(before paypal fees) : 1678USD
paypal fees : 84.57USD
cost of olipro's device : 855.75USD
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total(after paypal fees
and olipro's device) : 737.68USD



no polaris yet? is the project active?:confused::confused:

you need more donation?

raskell
10th March 2008, 02:42 PM
no polaris yet? is the project active?:confused::confused:

you need more donation?

The project is still very much active. First unit went to OliPro to do the HardSPL and SIM Unlock. Second unit will be for the head cook, nearly there and then ROM tuning will be expedited. Another week or so (perhaps). this is my estimate, not a commitment from the cook. Just want to assure you that there is something great in the oven!

Pawel062
10th March 2008, 11:37 PM
sry, been waiting for ltxda to make a formal announcment about whats going on. we have enough though so no more donations needed.

LTxda
11th March 2008, 03:42 AM
sry, been waiting for ltxda to make a formal announcment about whats going on. we have enough though so no more donations needed.

Well, as PK mentioned...we have enough for the last device. The device is ordered and on the way. THANK GOODNESS!

While PK waits for his device, he'll be fixing up a few things on the Athena Project 4.0 ROM in hopes that we can jump onto the Polaris Project ROM as soon as it arrives.

If you'd like to donate to PK for his great work, etc. Feel free. Otherwise, thank you all on behalf of the core team AND community for your contributions.

MAY THE COOKING BEGIN!!!! Not going to be like mamma used to make but we're sure you'll LOVE IT! :D

EDIT: Just to clarify...a device was ordered a while back but there were issues with getting it delivered. We sourced it elsewhere, was a little more money and now it's all in the past. Again, thank you and you guys should thank yourselves!

victoradjei
17th March 2008, 09:32 AM
Can we have the first rom for Christmas? Not Easter :rolleyes:

geomall
17th March 2008, 10:32 AM
Can we have the first rom for Christmas? Not Easter :rolleyes:


please specifie the year..........:p

TPXX
19th March 2008, 07:37 PM
Just what kind of benefits do a cooked rom give us? This is my first phone with these capabilities and was just wondering what the cooking does?

gnick666
19th March 2008, 07:47 PM
In most cases cooked ROMs contain newer versions of the sw included in the original, some are stripped down to the bare minimum so that the users can install their programs maximizing the free space available.
In some cases, there are cooks (like the people in the Polaris Project) who make optimizations in the WM stack, so the device can operate on a higher level, and modify the default programs (update, add/remove), so that it becomes more user firendly.

I think that should sum it up in general :rolleyes:

LTxda
19th March 2008, 07:50 PM
Just what kind of benefits do a cooked rom give us? This is my first phone with these capabilities and was just wondering what the cooking does?

Good question actually:

- Faster performance
- More stable
- Optimized in ways that the manufacturer or OEM neglect
- Added functionality through hacks or installed software
- Some come with special utilities allowing the end-user to tweak the device themselves
- New versions of software or utilities. A good example is newer version of Office Mobile verus the stock ROMs. Another example would be newer versions of HTC Album, etc.
- Newer versions of radio and other components like BlueTooth stacks. Typically cooked ROMs can run way ahead of the curve in this and other areas.
- etc.

logan602041
19th March 2008, 08:50 PM
I've been watching this thread since it began and It seems like there's more than one person working on this project, and i'm probably showing my ignorance here but Bepe's new Polaris Roms seem to already do everything proposed here with regular updates and bug fixes.

I've got so much respect for you people that can create and manipulate this stuff and i'm not trying to detract or criticize in any way from what your doing, and i will be donating to whichever Rom I settle on, i'm just wondering what possible differences/advantages there are likely to be over for example Bepe's Rom?

Olioaglio
21st March 2008, 11:07 AM
AFAIK bepe is proud member of the Polaris project so
maybe we should take his ROM also as part of the project.

Olioaglio

LTxda
24th March 2008, 06:58 PM
Cooking has started for the project. We should be testing an Alpha quality ROM shortly. This ROM won't be released for general testing as it'll be extremely buggy. We will work out many of the issues and try to get to a Beta quality ROM ASAP. So you guys know, Alpha quality ROMs are crap. These are the ROMs where bluetooth doesn't work properly, device locks up, performance may or may not be adequate, etc. Not something for users to test yet. Progress is being made and we wanted everyone to know what the latest was.

LTxda
24th March 2008, 07:01 PM
I've been watching this thread since it began and It seems like there's more than one person working on this project, and i'm probably showing my ignorance here but Bepe's new Polaris Roms seem to already do everything proposed here with regular updates and bug fixes.

I've got so much respect for you people that can create and manipulate this stuff and i'm not trying to detract or criticize in any way from what your doing, and i will be donating to whichever Rom I settle on, i'm just wondering what possible differences/advantages there are likely to be over for example Bepe's Rom?

If you use the Athena Project as a reference, we've released 3 versions of the ROM. Each with more enhancements, tweaks and they got better as we released newer versions of the ROM with later builds of Windows as well as updated drivers, applications, etc. We are working on another ROM that will be released soon. Just working out the bugs.

For example, on the Athena Project we released 3 total and are currently finalizing version 4.0.

victoradjei
25th March 2008, 07:39 AM
If you use the Athena Project as a reference, we've released 3 versions of the ROM. Each with more enhancements, tweaks and they got better as we released newer versions of the ROM with later builds of Windows as well as updated drivers, applications, etc. We are working on another ROM that will be released soon. Just working out the bugs.

For example, on the Athena Project we released 3 total and are currently finalizing version 4.0.

I hope the TC project ROM would be different from the Athena, at least the first two ROMs released. Where you have to install the rom, and then tweak it to get half baked results :eek: I am refering to all the VGA switches etc. which could have been add-ons instead of being cooked into rom and not work until you spend another hour to tune. If a program does not work as installed on rom, leave it out so those who want it can install later. Not so many links that litter the program directory :rolleyes:

Pawel062
25th March 2008, 09:47 PM
I hope the TC project ROM would be different from the Athena, at least the first two ROMs released. Where you have to install the rom, and then tweak it to get half baked results :eek: I am refering to all the VGA switches etc. which could have been add-ons instead of being cooked into rom and not work until you spend another hour to tune. If a program does not work as installed on rom, leave it out so those who want it can install later. Not so many links that litter the program directory :rolleyes:

and u just show ur ignorance. if u knew anything, u would go to ur windows folder and remove the links in program files for the programs u dont use. then u dont worry about the amount of stuff in there. also u would know that cooking in apps makes them more stable than just adding them on later and is better for the devices resources.

i wont get too deep into this so let me just ask u this..... where is ur athena rom?????


also those stars dont make u any less of a idiot.

LTxda
25th March 2008, 10:01 PM
I hope the TC project ROM would be different from the Athena, at least the first two ROMs released. Where you have to install the rom, and then tweak it to get half baked results I am refering to all the VGA switches etc. which could have been add-ons instead of being cooked into rom and not work until you spend another hour to tune. If a program does not work as installed on rom, leave it out so those who want it can install later. Not so many links that litter the program directory

Guys let's be nice. We bring experience to the table and lessons learned. No one/cook/team is perfect. There were more people that loved the ROMs than not. We can't and won't make everyone happy and that's just a fact of life. For those that didn't like it they can always cook their own. For those that loved it, and it seemed to be the majority, they used ours. As for tweaking the ROM yourself....wow...give me some insight...i would love to have a list of additional tweaks we can implement for the next version. So please provide them if you have any recommendations. :)

As for the VGA stuff, i think you're a little confused, unless I totally misunderstood you...the reason I say confused is because for numerous times we've stated that the realVGA is NOT our product...we neither wrote it nor helped develop it. Nor were we going to spend the time to modify it with the exception of maybe some bug fixes related directly to the ROM. If you have gripes about tweaking VGA let us know, this is the first I've heard or it and if it's not I totally forgot. :D

Thanks for your opinion also. We value everyone's feedback, even if it sounds like you just rammed a razor up your ass. LOL , sorry but had to say it bro :p

Now let's all stay nice to each other but if anyone wants to step up, i welcome a good fight :cool:

pehun
26th March 2008, 12:45 PM
Hi!
Could it be possible to include a bluetooth manager like this one :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=353774&highlight=perfect+bluetooth
in your project, to natively include the possibilité to ear windows mobile sounds/tomtom sounds throught bluetooth?


many thanks
:)

raskell
26th March 2008, 02:15 PM
Please bear in mind that the Polaris Project Team, (aka Athena Project Team) and others have real day jobs and other obligations beyond XDA-Developers. We (the community) have delivered for the 'Team' with enough donations to seed the project. OliPro and cmonex have already produced the HardSPL after much hardship.

The ROM for Polaris will come and it will not disappoint. Bear in mind, as time passes and more updated applications get released into the wild, the PPT will roll them in. Our ROM will be unique to our device and you will not be dismayed. Please allow the process to run it's course. We all will benefit.

victoradjei
26th March 2008, 04:14 PM
and u just show ur ignorance. if u knew anything, u would go to ur windows folder and remove the links in program files for the programs u dont use. then u dont worry about the amount of stuff in there. also u would know that cooking in apps makes them more stable than just adding them on later and is better for the devices resources.

i wont get too deep into this so let me just ask u this..... where is ur athena rom?????


also those stars dont make u any less of a idiot.

Ouch!!!! That hurts so much especially being a fan of yours :mad: I may be ignorant, but at least I also know enough to realise that there are more artefacts left behind than what you see in the windows folder :) :rolleyes:

Please don't shit on me again. :eek:

LTxda
26th March 2008, 04:14 PM
Ouch!!!! That hurts so much especially being a fan of yours :mad: I may be ignorant, but at least I also know enough to realise that there are more artefacts left behind than what you see in the windows folder :) :rolleyes:

Please don't shit on me again.

How about poop?

EDIT: Also, glad you didn't take it personal. He was in a bad mood yesterday. He should be better today after a good night's rest. :)

rockscientist01
26th March 2008, 11:56 PM
I don't mean to bug you guys..
But seriously- when will the first ROM be published ???

I remember a line sth like "...will be there before christmas" xmas 2007 I thought you meant, didn't u?

cause if it takes much longer im seriously thinking bout selling my Orbit2

thanks for any insight thoughts...

AO

LTxda
27th March 2008, 08:58 AM
I don't mean to bug you guys..
But seriously- when will the first ROM be published ???

I remember a line sth like "...will be there before christmas" xmas 2007 I thought you meant, didn't u?

cause if it takes much longer im seriously thinking bout selling my Orbit2

thanks for any insight thoughts...

AO

Well, you seem confused as hell. Go back, read a bit then sit back and relax. Im sure you`ll come across something you`ve seriously misunderstood. There is a ROM out is my point and another on the way. You should go back and review a few things. Did you even unlock your device yet? lol

TPXX
30th March 2008, 04:05 AM
I got my TC factory unlocked, which means I can use any carrier that uses sim cards. Will I need to use the HardSPL? I hope it is not to stupid of a question, just bear in mind I admit to being a newbie! :)

raskell
30th March 2008, 05:15 AM
I got my TC factory unlocked, which means I can use any carrier that uses sim cards. Will I need to use the HardSPL? I hope it is not to stupid of a question, just bear in mind I admit to being a newbie! :)

If you want to flash a custom ROM, then you need HARDSPL. Receiving your device factory unlocked only means SIM FREE. You need to become CID unlocked too. (Flame-FREE response) That's your one for this decade!

gnick666
31st March 2008, 07:23 AM
Dear Polaris Team!

I'd like to ask if you would be so nice to us, and take a look at the HTC Sedna's ROM, because it has something in it that boosts the graphics performance... be it the drivers or the fix HTC promised..

Here is the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=381254

I hope you guys can come up whith something :D

tenticle56
31st March 2008, 04:45 PM
Exciting news - it looks as though swtos has got the Sedna video driver working with his Touch Cruise: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2072587&postcount=364

I understand that there are still some bugs, but with all the amazingly talented people already involved in the Polaris Project, maybe this is starting to sound like a great opportunity for the first major release!! :D

boart
31st March 2008, 07:08 PM
and its absolutely SURE that the p6500 has 3d accleration enabled?????

geomall
7th April 2008, 07:48 AM
if someone want to take back the donation is it possible?
2 months wait for no project
where is the project?:mad::mad::mad:

Jibreil
7th April 2008, 06:41 PM
Anxiously awaiting the release!

LTxda
7th April 2008, 06:48 PM
Anxiously awaiting the release!

First of all, one of the best avatars I've seen. Love it. LOL


Second, will be getting with PK tonight to see where we stand on this. Will be updating soon people. :)

LTxda
7th April 2008, 06:49 PM
One more thing...

Any feedback for those of you that have installed and are running Bepe's ROM? Bepe is part of our team so this ROM is a project release. Please provide feedback and suggestions/recommendations so we can take this and apply what we can do the next ROM.

Thanks to all of you in advance for your time and help on this.

LTxda
7th April 2008, 06:50 PM
Dear Polaris Team!

I'd like to ask if you would be so nice to us, and take a look at the HTC Sedna's ROM, because it has something in it that boosts the graphics performance... be it the drivers or the fix HTC promised..

Here is the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=381254

I hope you guys can come up whith something :D

Much appreciated and great on keeping an eye out. We've already been testing and trying a few things. Will keep everyone posted if something becomes of this.

LTxda
7th April 2008, 06:55 PM
if someone want to take back the donation is it possible?
2 months wait for no project
where is the project?:mad::mad::mad:

Well, the devices have been purchased. An unlocker has been released as promised. A ROM is available on the site per Bepe. PK is working on another ROM and has been running and testing it on his device for days now. Please understand that we have normal lives, are trying to help with other items on the forum and are actually going to be focussing on releasing a final Polaris ROM in the next two weeks, if at all possible.

If you'd like a refund just PM me the details and we'll try to arrange something.

Meanwhile, have you unlocked your device with the tool released by the project and have you flashed Bepe's ROM to check it out and provide feedback to the team for improvements and/or enhancements on the next ROM released?

Also remember, this isn't a business. It's a community helping a bunch of people with spare time develop a superior ROM for a device you purchased. Let's keep it friendly and be as impatient. No offense is meant by this but let's do keep this friendly and work together towards this common goal.

If you still want your money back, and i'm sure you will still use the ROM once it's released and most likely have already used the unlocker, let us know. We'll figure something out since the devices have already been purchased.

rhov23
7th April 2008, 07:20 PM
Well, the devices have been purchased. An unlocker has been released as promised. A ROM is available on the site per Bepe. PK is working on another ROM and has been running and testing it on his device for days now. Please understand that we have normal lives, are trying to help with other items on the forum and are actually going to be focussing on releasing a final Polaris ROM in the next two weeks, if at all possible.

If you'd like a refund just PM me the details and we'll try to arrange something.

Meanwhile, have you unlocked your device with the tool released by the project and have you flashed Bepe's ROM to check it out and provide feedback to the team for improvements and/or enhancements on the next ROM released?

Also remember, this isn't a business. It's a community helping a bunch of people with spare time develop a superior ROM for a device you purchased. Let's keep it friendly and be as impatient. No offense is meant by this but let's do keep this friendly and work together towards this common goal.

If you still want your money back, and i'm sure you will still use the ROM once it's released and most likely have already used the unlocker, let us know. We'll figure something out since the devices have already been purchased.

Well put.

As long as I'm writing this, is wm6.1 less "snappy" on the notification-bubbles on your devices? They kinda paint slowly on my screen.

It's 3 seconds faster opening the keyboard "triangle" though, and scrolling is much smoother. Performance elsewhere is the same, and I love the basic version where you don't have the touchflo taking up much needed memory.

Most of us really appretiate the effort you put into the project :)

Jibreil
7th April 2008, 07:42 PM
@ltxda

Firstly thanks for liking my avatar :-) It's been my favorite since quite sometime now.

Please get things moving at your earliest, the donators and myself seem very eager to use the ROM. I've two Polari's with me, please let me know if I can be of any help in BETA testing the ROM.

There have been quite a few bug's on BEPE's ROM which myself and other members have pointed out. Please take a look at this thread.

Also, would like to point out towards the new SEDNA Radio 1.58.21.23. The folks at the Kaiser forum says, it's the best Radio yet! Is there a way to port it for the Polaris?

Thanks in advance! Keep up the great work!

wonderiuy
7th April 2008, 08:01 PM
One more thing...

Any feedback for those of you that have installed and are running Bepe's ROM? Bepe is part of our team so this ROM is a project release. Please provide feedback and suggestions/recommendations so we can take this and apply what we can do the next ROM.

Thanks to all of you in advance for your time and help on this.

Yes and all bugs are constantly reported down to bepe's ROM thread and i think that is the good place since bepe's ROM is a release (not the only i hope) of this project.

LTxda
7th April 2008, 08:04 PM
@ltxda

Firstly thanks for liking my avatar :-) It's been my favorite since quite sometime now.

Please get things moving at your earliest, the donators and myself seem very eager to use the ROM. I've two Polari's with me, please let me know if I can be of any help in BETA testing the ROM.

There have been quite a few bug's on BEPE's ROM which myself and other members have pointed out. Please take a look at this thread.

Also, would like to point out towards the new SEDNA Radio 1.58.21.23. The folks at the Kaiser forum says, it's the best Radio yet! Is there a way to port it for the Polaris?

Thanks in advance! Keep up the great work!

Thanks and we're on it. I've been so busy I forgot to check Bepe's thread. Will do this tonight when I get home from work and after putting the kids to bed. We will do our best to ensure these bugs aren't present in the next release. FYI, if it's an OS related bug we sometimes can resolve them regardless but sometimes not. Don't want any unrealistic expectations.

Thanks for your feedback.

LTxda
7th April 2008, 08:06 PM
Yes and all bugs are constantly reported down to bepe's ROM thread and i think that is the good place since bepe's ROM is a release (not the only i hope) of this project.

Not the only release for sure. Like I mentioned, PK is actually running a ROM he cooked up for this project on his device purchased by this project. I'll talk to him tonight when i get home from work and see where we stand on this.

As mentioned in my other response, I've been so busy that I neglected to check Bepe's thread. Duh!

Thanks to you guys for pointing that out.

athanaso77
7th April 2008, 08:56 PM
Strange things happen here!!! Polaris Project lives in his own world! Thank god someone reminded you to check Bepe's thread, otherwise you would still be waiting here for donations!!! Months have passed and Polaris Project still lives in his mystic unknown world. :confused:

Pawel062
7th April 2008, 09:22 PM
if someone want to take back the donation is it possible?
2 months wait for no project
where is the project?:mad::mad::mad:

i mentioned its coming once the athena project's 4.0 rom is done in bepes thread. u actually already have a rom from us. bepe is part of the project for those who can't read. i help him constantly with the releases. thats why we are sharing right now a kitchen for the polaris and stuff like that. i have graphics for the polaris pretty much done.

the rom will have a blue look, same program versions as bepes latest rom unless theres newer ones, adding my own programs, and will fix any bugs. first release will be a beta followed by non beta versions. i have the polaris in hand.

have it for a bit now and it has a invisible shield on it that i purchased with my own cash. im waiting on a 8gb microsd from ltxda since hes sending one of the ones he aint using. most preliminary things are done. once athena rom is complete ,maybe even today, ill get to work on rom and have something done quick but still a very good rom.

Jibreil
7th April 2008, 09:28 PM
One beta tester waiting right here.

Suggestion: See if you can invite ASerg (http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=394444) to your team. You should checkout his ROM Polaris.ASerg.WM61R.WWE (Russian edition) (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=382932)

- It's the fastest
- Been rigorously testing it since over an hour, haven't found any bugs, especially the one's found pointed out by the members in bepe thread.
- He's got some amazing set of addons
- Flawless, amazing and overall perfect!

LTxda
7th April 2008, 10:12 PM
Strange things happen here!!! Polaris Project lives in his own world! Thank god someone reminded you to check Bepe's thread, otherwise you would still be waiting here for donations!!! Months have passed and Polaris Project still lives in his mystic unknown world. :confused:

Confused? Do you have any specific questions or anything to contribute to the project other than donations to help keep things moving along?

wonderiuy
7th April 2008, 10:19 PM
Not the only release for sure. Like I mentioned, PK is actually running a ROM he cooked up for this project on his device purchased by this project. I'll talk to him tonight when i get home from work and see where we stand on this.

As mentioned in my other response, I've been so busy that I neglected to check Bepe's thread. Duh!

Thanks to you guys for pointing that out.

Happy to hear this words. Plz check bepe's Thread since beginnin cuz some bugs are still in last release. since .64 with basic ROM the TC go in standby during boot be4 finishing boot..it takes too long.

LTxda
8th April 2008, 12:19 AM
Happy to hear this words. Plz check bepe's Thread since beginnin cuz some bugs are still in last release. since .64 with basic ROM the TC go in standby during boot be4 finishing boot..it takes too long.

Thanks, will do. About to leave for home in another hour and should be available after i take care of the kids with the little lady and get them to bed. Been a looooooooooooooooooooong day fellas....but I guess I shouldn't expect any less of a Monday. :(

ouioui01
8th April 2008, 12:25 PM
bepe is part of the project for those who can't read. i help him constantly with the releases. thats why we are sharing right now a kitchen for the polaris and stuff like that. i have graphics for the polaris pretty much done.
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bepe released his first rom before he was a member of the team...

kitchen are already shared by udK and swtos...who are not in your team :p

hey guys, wake-up!!! :D

cheers!

logan602041
8th April 2008, 02:43 PM
Based on the reccomendation of Jibreil I went and tested ROM Polaris.ASerg.WM61R.WWE (Russian edition), changed it to English and have to say it's a fine piece of work, well worth a look.

Thx for the heads up Jibreil and thx for an superb ROM ASerg.

Get this guy onboard!

Jibreil
8th April 2008, 02:49 PM
Based on the reccomendation of Jibreil I went and tested ROM Polaris.ASerg.WM61R.WWE (Russian edition), changed it to English and have to say it's a fine piece of work, well worth a look.

Thx for the heads up Jibreil and thx for an superb ROM ASerg.

Get this guy onboard!

My pleasure friend :-)

BTW, he has released the English version of his rom, check it out here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=383494)

Pawel062
8th April 2008, 03:12 PM
bepe released his first rom before he was a member of the team...

kitchen are already shared by udK and swtos...who are not in your team :p

hey guys, wake-up!!! :D

cheers!

we were working together already before the announcment. the 2nd rom he made though was really where we stepped in an began working together.

LTxda
8th April 2008, 04:12 PM
My pleasure friend :-)

BTW, he has released the English version of his rom, check it out here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=383494)

What build did he use for the ROM? I dont have a Polaris so cant test or check.

Jibreil
8th April 2008, 04:47 PM
What build did he use for the ROM? I dont have a Polaris so cant test or check.

I don't have any details on how he built it... he seems to be a man of less words... his ROM's are quality ROM's as DuTTy's in the Kaiser forum.

You can PM him and talk to him.

LTxda
8th April 2008, 04:48 PM
I don't have any details on how he built it... he seems to be a man of less words... his ROM's are quality ROM's as DuTTy's in the Kaiser forum.

You can PM him and talk to him.

Yes I'll PM him. FYI, the builds that our team has are the latest and greatest. I doubt anyone else will have what's in our hands. Not bragging, just informing.

I'm curious what build he used for the ROM because he might also be interested in what we have :)

Jibreil
8th April 2008, 05:40 PM
Yes I'll PM him. FYI, the builds that our team has are the latest and greatest. I doubt anyone else will have what's in our hands. Not bragging, just informing.

I'm curious what build he used for the ROM because he might also be interested in what we have :)

I'm not aware about your kitchen, but if his can do such a fantastic job and your's seem to be the latest, then bring it on... till then ASerg ROM is for keeps.
There's nothing better than great minds working on one goal "The Ulltimate Polaris ROM"
I am sure we are gonna see the best ROM's this forum has ever seen. Good luck to you all! Don't forget me as a beta tester. I have a neck for bugs ;-)

Please bear the following while cooking:
- Include QuickMenu 2.7 it's a very handy tool
- Port SEDNA's ATi Drivers
- Port SEDNA's 1.58.xx.xx Radio pls!

logan602041
8th April 2008, 08:48 PM
I think most folks were under the impression that Bepe's ROM was a separate entity from the Polaris Project, I know I was.:confused:

Personally ASerg's ROM feels more robust and quicker than the Bepe ROM right at the moment, but then perhaps ASerg was using Bepe's thread fixes and modfiying based on the answers found in that thread all along.

All I know is if the Polaris Project is better than Aserg's then we're going to have a barnstormer when released... but if we can cherry pick all the best from all these ROMS then eventually we'll have a device worth owning.

And then all you clever boffins can get together and magic up my Graphics driver...;)

LTxda
8th April 2008, 08:56 PM
I think most folks were under the impression that Bepe's ROM was a separate entity from the Polaris Project, I know I was.:confused:

Personally ASerg's ROM feels more robust and quicker than the Bepe ROM right at the moment, but then perhaps ASerg was using Bepe's thread fixes and modfiying based on the answers found in that thread all along.

All I know is if the Polaris Project is better than Aserg's then we're going to have a barnstormer when released... but if we can cherry pick all the best from all these ROMS then eventually we'll have a device worth owning.

And then all you clever boffins can get together and magic up my Graphics driver...;)

I wish I had a device to test it on. I'll talk to PK and see if he has time to check it out.

Meanwhile, can you do me a favor...

- Go to Start.
- Go to Settings.
- Go to System tab.
- Go to About.
- Tell us what the build is on that ROM if you will and thank you. Of course we can wait for PK to flash if he has time but this will help keep things moving forward.

For everyone else,

Also, Bepe is a great cook and knows a lot about WM and devices. Please note that his release did say Beta on it. We don't want to dismiss the significant details. The ROM was tagged as a Beta and early release to get people to flashing after the SPL/Unlocker was released. Those that want to wait for stability can flash the project ROM once it's been tweaked and stablized. We always aim to put out the latest and greatest build of Windows Mobile along with any apps we have in our arsenal...but try not to release unstable items. We also don't consider ourselves to be incompetition with any other cook or team. We just do what we do.

logan602041
8th April 2008, 09:06 PM
It's

CE OS 5.2.19209 (Build 19209.ASerg)

Hope that's what your after, anything else you need to know i'm happy to help with.

LTxda
8th April 2008, 09:36 PM
It's

CE OS 5.2.19209 (Build 19209.ASerg)

Hope that's what your after, anything else you need to know i'm happy to help with.

Exactly what I needed. Thanks again and will let you know. Much appreciated bro.

Jibreil
8th April 2008, 10:01 PM
Come what may, ASerg has swept us by storm. Agree and NO doubt bepe has justified the Polaris Project but I definetly DO NOT agree on that fact that ASerg has any resemblence with hsi kitchen.

I'm sure shot sure that ASerg has his own skill & technique of creating a quality ROM, which we should adept from.

LTxda
8th April 2008, 10:11 PM
Come what may, ASerg has swept us by storm. Agree and NO doubt bepe has justified the Polaris Project but I definetly DO NOT agree on that fact that ASerg has any resemblence with hsi kitchen.

I'm sure shot sure that ASerg has his own skill & technique of creating a quality ROM, which we should adept from.

Good info and great words.

Pawel062
8th April 2008, 10:37 PM
I'm not aware about your kitchen, but if his can do such a fantastic job and your's seem to be the latest, then bring it on... till then ASerg ROM is for keeps.
There's nothing better than great minds working on one goal "The Ulltimate Polaris ROM"
I am sure we are gonna see the best ROM's this forum has ever seen. Good luck to you all! Don't forget me as a beta tester. I have a neck for bugs ;-)

Please bear the following while cooking:
- Include QuickMenu 2.7 it's a very handy tool
- Port SEDNA's ATi Drivers
- Port SEDNA's 1.58.xx.xx Radio pls!

the last 2 i will look into getting ready for the first release. might not get those done in tom for release. quickmenu i will check out. im used to htc's enlarge start menu though :p might just include both :)

Pawel062
8th April 2008, 10:37 PM
It's

CE OS 5.2.19209 (Build 19209.ASerg)

Hope that's what your after, anything else you need to know i'm happy to help with.

same build that we are using at this time.

Pawel062
8th April 2008, 10:38 PM
Come what may, ASerg has swept us by storm. Agree and NO doubt bepe has justified the Polaris Project but I definetly DO NOT agree on that fact that ASerg has any resemblence with hsi kitchen.

I'm sure shot sure that ASerg has his own skill & technique of creating a quality ROM, which we should adept from.

i also have my own. i know i will try my best to provide a quality rom to you all.

reyjabs
8th April 2008, 10:47 PM
Not the only release for sure. Like I mentioned, PK is actually running a ROM he cooked up for this project on his device purchased by this project. I'll talk to him tonight when i get home from work and see where we stand on this.

As mentioned in my other response, I've been so busy that I neglected to check Bepe's thread. Duh!

Thanks to you guys for pointing that out.

A "Taster ROM" to apease these "Tester's" would'nt hurt you know.:p

athanaso77
8th April 2008, 11:33 PM
Confused? Do you have any specific questions or anything to contribute to the project other than donations to help keep things moving along?

Yes of course... and it is called Beta testing. But i haven't seen for months any beta ROM from you, only promises and reminders for donations, many reminders for what? Nothing!!!

Thank god there are already some very good cookers for Polaris and as far as i remember, bepe told us that he makes his Polaris ROMs the way he likes it and independent from your called project with zero progress!!!

Pawel062
8th April 2008, 11:55 PM
Yes of course... and it is called Beta testing. But i haven't seen for months any beta ROM from you, only promises and reminders for donations, many reminders for what? Nothing!!!

Thank god there are already some very good cookers for Polaris and as far as i remember, bepe told us that he makes his Polaris ROMs the way he likes it and independent from your called project with zero progress!!!

i hope u know you will be eating ur words very soon. also its called a life and we all have it. i've been very busy lately and anyone on the team can vouch for this. also i have a responsibility to release roms for the athena and i have been working on my next athena rom since i got the polaris.

if u read whats been going on in athena forums u would see the build 19181 i got from a x7510 rom was very buggy and i wasted time working on that to make it stable until 19202 was given the ok so i moved to that. i have finished the rom on saturday so since then have been working on polaris. bepe has been absent so he can't help me bc of exams.

if u really talked with him you would see we are a team and constantly are helping each other. one memorable issue he had that he asked help on was the new album thats found in new vga roms. it has some ui improvments and we were trying to get it to work on the polaris with no luck. i have been recently trying again on the newer version so its holding up rom progress. tomm im getting back into working on the rom. if all goes well by the weekend or next week we will have a beta for you all.

Pawel062
8th April 2008, 11:57 PM
A "Taster ROM" to apease these "Tester's" would'nt hurt you know.:p

its coming. i promise i will have something even if not done yet for all of you by next week. hows that?

ouioui01
9th April 2008, 09:26 AM
Thank god there are already some very good cookers for Polaris and as far as i remember, bepe told us that he makes his Polaris ROMs the way he likes it and independent from your called project with zero progress!!!

Totally agree with you and you're in right about what told bepe :D

ouioui01
9th April 2008, 09:36 AM
@ Pawel062, ltxda,

hope for you, that you'll release a non buggy rom...if you want to remain credible :cool:

cheers and good luck !!!

I wish I had a device to test it on...
Need some donations ?:rolleyes:

LTxda
9th April 2008, 09:37 AM
@ Pawel062, ltxda,

hope for you, that you'll release a non buggy rom...if you want to remain credible :cool:

cheers and good luck !!!


Need some donations ?:rolleyes:

You guys crack me up. You also have no idea what you're talking about. But nevertheless life and the project goes on. Thanks for the good laugh. :D

As for donations, nah. I only buy high end devices. I already have an Athena, 2 Kaisers and my HTC Shift arrives soon. No need for a Polaris. :) The only reason I have Kaisers is because I bought them as gifts for two special ladies in my life. Great devices but not for me.

LTxda
9th April 2008, 09:40 AM
Yes of course... and it is called Beta testing. But i haven't seen for months any beta ROM from you, only promises and reminders for donations, many reminders for what? Nothing!!!

Thank god there are already some very good cookers for Polaris and as far as i remember, bepe told us that he makes his Polaris ROMs the way he likes it and independent from your called project with zero progress!!!

LOL, dude you're too funny.

All I can say is whatever as you have no clue what you're talking about. But if you must vent your furstrations through the forum then you must. I for one don't give a fuck what you have to say. LOL. That's all you'll hear from me and the project is moving forward and we're working on it. The fact that you think you can push some buttons with your little words and make us move faster shows how ignorant you really are. All you do for me is provide me with some mindless entertainment. Thank you for that. :cool:

EDIT: Oh and one more thing... I did say OTHER THAN DONATIONS...meaning I'm not asking for your donation i'm asking for your constructive help in the project to keep things moving on not your meaningless rants. Why not provide something back to the community and help instead of opening your mouth and making yourself sound like a stupid fool? Think about what you've said and go back and read. It really does make you sound stupid. And if you want to prove you're smart, as i'm sure you'll say "i'm not stupid"...then cook a ROM and release it yourself. Let's see how well it compares.

LTxda
9th April 2008, 09:46 AM
same build that we are using at this time.

Without the "ASerg" part of course :D

LTxda
9th April 2008, 09:49 AM
A "Taster ROM" to apease these "Tester's" would'nt hurt you know.:p

It's coming and we're not going to be rushed by the few loud mouthes (not you) that always creep up in such forums thinking they can actually sway outcomes.

For those of you that respect us, we respect you guys and we're working on it. We know you understand.

To those of you that complain like children and try to push the outcome...well, we know we can't please everyone so i guess you fall into the unhappy category and such is life.

The ROM is coming. No ETA yet but PK is going to give it his best effort to finalize the bugs and tweaks to release soon.

ouioui01
9th April 2008, 09:52 AM
You guys crack me up. You also have no idea what you're talking about. But nevertheless life and the project goes on. Thanks for the good laugh. :D

As for donations, nah. I only buy high end devices. I already have an Athena, 2 Kaisers and my HTC Shift arrives soon. No need for a Polaris. :) The only reason I have Kaisers is because I bought them as gifts for two special ladies in my life. Great devices but not for me.

happy to see that i make you laugh :D

and for devices....i only quote what you said...
i've no idea about what i'm talking about...lol

cheers

LTxda
9th April 2008, 09:57 AM
happy to see that i make you laugh :D

and for devices....i only quote what you said...
i've no idea about what i'm talking about...lol

cheers

Nah bro you're cool. I'm just giving back your hard time. :D

I personally can't wait to get the ROM out of PK's hands and into the hands of this community. With all of the active "remarks" we've been getting, I welcome some serious feedback so we can continue to tweak the ROM and release updates and fixes and make it nice. We always test thoroughly before release to make sure any obvious bugs get worked out but sometimes you can't catch 100% of them and that's when the rest of the community is invaluable. This is all in fun for us. I personally don't have a Polaris but didn't need one. I do this for free on my spare time and it's just for fun. The fact that we needed devices to make this happen is just a fact, not because it came from a desire for us to get Polaris devices. Don't get me wrong, it's a nice device but I already have a Wizard, a Hermes, a Universal, 2 Kaisers, an Athena and my Shift arrives soon. I don't need another device. :cool:

...nevertheless I'm going to do what I can to help this project and community...even if there are a few OTHERS out there taking this way too seriously and venting until they are blue in the face. ;)

EDIT: I see that maybe the French and Greek are hard to please! LOL :-p

hambola
9th April 2008, 10:05 AM
pesky europeans....haha.

here's to a good ROM coming out of the Polaris Project. patiently waiting...

LTxda
9th April 2008, 10:06 AM
pesky europeans....haha.

here's to a good ROM coming out of the Polaris Project. patiently waiting...

LOL and thanks bro.

I'm originally from some place other than the US but reside in the US. I'm a child of the world :D

manaaa
9th April 2008, 12:03 PM
hi,

is any of the polaris project members NOW online w/ rom dump skills?


in the kaiser rom development section is a guy, named danillo asking for rom dumping instructions for his sedna (htc 6500)
**edit**
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=383760

athanaso77
9th April 2008, 12:28 PM
LOL, dude you're too funny.

All I can say is whatever as you have no clue what you're talking about. But if you must vent your furstrations through the forum then you must. I for one don't give a fuck what you have to say. LOL. That's all you'll hear from me and the project is moving forward and we're working on it. The fact that you think you can push some buttons with your little words and make us move faster shows how ignorant you really are. All you do for me is provide me with some mindless entertainment. Thank you for that. :cool:

EDIT: Oh and one more thing... I did say OTHER THAN DONATIONS...meaning I'm not asking for your donation i'm asking for your constructive help in the project to keep things moving on not your meaningless rants. Why not provide something back to the community and help instead of opening your mouth and making yourself sound like a stupid fool? Think about what you've said and go back and read. It really does make you sound stupid. And if you want to prove you're smart, as i'm sure you'll say "i'm not stupid"...then cook a ROM and release it yourself. Let's see how well it compares.

I want all people reading here to make their own opinion for the official answer of "Polaris Project".

@ltxda: Thank you for your answer... thank you for insulting your self on your own! ;) Nothing else to say! :D

Kimma
9th April 2008, 12:46 PM
Let's stop this childish flame-war, shall we?

gnick666
9th April 2008, 12:51 PM
Let's stop this childish flame-war, shall we?
I agree, so for all flaming Trolls... STFU and wait!!! We can ask about the status of the project politely and the nice people of the team will reply in the same maner...

manaaa
9th April 2008, 02:31 PM
wtf??! as a representative person u really stay c0ol ltxda!!!

@athanannoy

make ur own biz somewhere else. people donated and will get their rom. as far as i remember the polaris project was the first that had hands on cooking/modding for our beloved device (thanks raskell).

without this project, you werent even able to flash a rom, i.e. swtos,panosha,bepe,aserg and bless the others who i forgot.

dont you understand, that pawel is working on a current athena project release?...and dont you understand, that pawel is working on a current athena project release? i forgot to ask: dont you understand, that pawel is working on a current athena project release?

all i read is cracked bullshit from you, annoying! and also the oioioioioioioioioioioioioioioi-guy.

also i want to mention, why not cooking your own rom? -are you out of time?or skills? or a generell know-how?

i wonder you found xda-devs.com .. what was you originally searching for? i bet iphone themes

..........

my several advices for you, because u seem to have time for wastings:

-try cook own rom
-test other roms and make constructive critics
-test applications that could be usefull and admit them
-wait till the polaris project rom released and make constructive critics

in the end:

im patient

athanaso77
9th April 2008, 03:01 PM
without this project, you werent even able to flash a rom, i.e. swtos,panosha,bepe,aserg and bless the others who i forgot.

swtos, panosha, PhamQuang and aserg have nothing to do with this project. They work on their own.

Also bepe has told that all these perfect ROMs that have released, are on his own and has nothing to do with this called project also!

You have messed things up i guess! ;)

Jibreil
9th April 2008, 03:05 PM
A Note to All upset members:

Patience doesn't seem to be your virtue, I don't blame you as it's neither mine and two months of wait after a donation can get you upset. But looking at the bright side, the project is taking its course in due time - so I request ALL to give the team a buffer and let them release something that they have promised. I'm sure its gonna be worth your donation money.

Hail XDA Hail Polaris - Peace! :-)

manaaa
9th April 2008, 03:24 PM
swtos, panosha, PhamQuang and aserg have nothing to do with this project. They work on their own.

Also bepe has told that all these perfect ROMs that have released, are on his own and has nothing to do with this called project also!

You have messed things up i guess! ;)

dont you understand english? you read my lines and it makes *#??OOGA\OOGA%& in your head????


Originally Posted by manaaa
WITHOUt THIS PROJECT, you werent even able to flash a rom, i.e. swtos,panosha,bepe,aserg and bless the others who i forgot.



without this project it werent possible to flash roms from other cooks. the cooks arent part of the project, but without the project there were no progress at all in making roms.

messed things up? -sure ^^

cmon, stop your talkings in here. what u really want to say? i dont get ur point! you want your money back? tell me. im sure its easier to solve "your problem" if you tell us what you REALLY want. dont you see that you 'fight' without arguments?

all i see is what you dont want. that includes some innovative creative posts.

stop by now, and the laugh ends

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!

Pawel062
9th April 2008, 03:30 PM
@ Pawel062, ltxda,

hope for you, that you'll release a non buggy rom...if you want to remain credible :cool:

cheers and good luck !!!


Need some donations ?:rolleyes:

i'll try my best on the rom part. on the donations part. need none. wow this community is cruel.

Pawel062
9th April 2008, 03:31 PM
Without the "ASerg" part of course :D

correct. will be -PK instead.

Pawel062
9th April 2008, 03:33 PM
Nah bro you're cool. I'm just giving back your hard time. :D

I personally can't wait to get the ROM out of PK's hands and into the hands of this community. With all of the active "remarks" we've been getting, I welcome some serious feedback so we can continue to tweak the ROM and release updates and fixes and make it nice. We always test thoroughly before release to make sure any obvious bugs get worked out but sometimes you can't catch 100% of them and that's when the rest of the community is invaluable. This is all in fun for us. I personally don't have a Polaris but didn't need one. I do this for free on my spare time and it's just for fun. The fact that we needed devices to make this happen is just a fact, not because it came from a desire for us to get Polaris devices. Don't get me wrong, it's a nice device but I already have a Wizard, a Hermes, a Universal, 2 Kaisers, an Athena and my Shift arrives soon. I don't need another device.

...nevertheless I'm going to do what I can to help this project and community...even if there are a few OTHERS out there taking this way too seriously and venting until they are blue in the face.

EDIT: I see that maybe the French and Greek are hard to please! LOL

:eek: better watch for them. they might team up on u like they did on me :p

Pawel062
9th April 2008, 03:33 PM
pesky europeans....haha.

here's to a good ROM coming out of the Polaris Project. patiently waiting...

thanx. will try to make it the best i can.

Pawel062
9th April 2008, 03:36 PM
wtf??! as a representative person u really stay c0ol ltxda!!!

@athanannoy

-wait till the polaris project rom released and make constructive critics

in the end:

im patient

thanx. looks like someone really understands whats going on. that post sums it all up:)

Pawel062
9th April 2008, 03:40 PM
swtos, panosha, PhamQuang and aserg have nothing to do with this project. They work on their own.

Also bepe has told that all these perfect ROMs that have released, are on his own and has nothing to do with this called project also!

You have messed things up i guess! ;)

without this project you wouldn't have a hardspl or sim unlocker. without those u would never have ur precious cooked roms.

i might not be the fastest at making cooked roms but i am known for my quality. since u and other bitch about it not coming fast enough i'll make a pretty quick rom to shut u and the others up. the real rom will come after when theres some feedback. this is a new community so it will have new requirments so thats why the beta will come first. we can decide after on what to add or remove.

Pawel062
9th April 2008, 03:41 PM
dont you understand english? you read my lines and it makes *#??OOGA\OOGA%& in your head????




stop by now, and the laugh ends

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!

thank you. at least again some one has the brains to understand whats going on and is understanding, patient.

Jibreil
9th April 2008, 04:26 PM
I think this thread has exceed far to many pages. Please close this thread and start a new one when the project is released.

wonderiuy
9th April 2008, 04:56 PM
I would sugget to sign all the ROM sons of Polaris project with a sign, ie. [PP ROM] 0.67. by bepe WWE|FRA|ITA|GER|ESN

btsanev
9th April 2008, 08:37 PM
yeah guys, chill out...

i'm also owner of that device, and waiting patiently for the ROM. I'm still with the original ROM, since i don't have much time to play with it, and I prefer to wait until non-beta version is out. respect for all you guys that are trying the betas.
The device has a lot of issues to deal with - my camera stopped working, now it's miraculously working again, sometimes the keyboards are not showing, it's slow (i'm not going to open the driver thingy at all, thumbs down for htc for this...). But in the end i'm happy with it - thankfully i'm not relying on it for work, it's more of a gadget for fun... But I would definitely want to see it improved and at it's best, and I'm relying on these cooks to do that.
So good luck with the cooking, and don't fall into useless disses.

peace and immortality,
seb

LTxda
9th April 2008, 08:41 PM
I would sugget to sign all the ROM sons of Polaris project with a sign, ie. [PP ROM] 0.67. by bepe WWE|FRA|ITA|GER|ESN

There is more involved than just that and some back end stuff that you're not understanding. Thankfully the ROM is coming :)

LTxda
9th April 2008, 08:43 PM
yeah guys, chill out...

i'm also owner of that device, and waiting patiently for the ROM. I'm still with the original ROM, since i don't have much time to play with it, and I prefer to wait until non-beta version is out. respect for all you guys that are trying the betas.
The device has a lot of issues to deal with - my camera stopped working, now it's miraculously working again, sometimes the keyboards are not showing, it's slow (i'm not going to open the driver thingy at all, thumbs down for htc for this...). But in the end i'm happy with it - thankfully i'm not relying on it for work, it's more of a gadget for fun... But I would definitely want to see it improved and at it's best, and I'm relying on these cooks to do that.
So good luck with the cooking, and don't fall into useless disses.

peace and immortality,
seb

Understood and completely agree. Thanks for the kind words. Kind words motivate. Mean words motivate me to hack into your shit, steal your IMEI number and create a special little present for the asshole who installs the ROM. :D

Of course I would never do something like that. :cool:

Pawel062
9th April 2008, 09:17 PM
I would sugget to sign all the ROM sons of Polaris project with a sign, ie. [PP ROM] 0.67. by bepe WWE|FRA|ITA|GER|ESN

i think i told bepe to put something saying he was in the project in his rom thread. i'll have to look myself and if not get him to add it in there.

Pawel062
9th April 2008, 09:18 PM
I think this thread has exceed far to many pages. Please close this thread and start a new one when the project is released.

i'll try to find midget so he can do this. ur right it has gone a bit too far.

Pawel062
9th April 2008, 09:19 PM
yeah guys, chill out...

i'm also owner of that device, and waiting patiently for the ROM. I'm still with the original ROM, since i don't have much time to play with it, and I prefer to wait until non-beta version is out. respect for all you guys that are trying the betas.
The device has a lot of issues to deal with - my camera stopped working, now it's miraculously working again, sometimes the keyboards are not showing, it's slow (i'm not going to open the driver thingy at all, thumbs down for htc for this...). But in the end i'm happy with it - thankfully i'm not relying on it for work, it's more of a gadget for fun... But I would definitely want to see it improved and at it's best, and I'm relying on these cooks to do that.
So good luck with the cooking, and don't fall into useless disses.

peace and immortality,
seb
today i was using my polaris and msn was really lagging. this device really needs some work. i'll try to do my best though.

Pawel062
9th April 2008, 09:20 PM
Understood and completely agree. Thanks for the kind words. Kind words motivate. Mean words motivate me to hack into your shit, steal your IMEI number and create a special little present for the asshole who installs the ROM. :D

Of course I would never do something like that. :cool:
hehe of course u wouldn't. also i bet ur looking at all the problems the polaris has and are happy you dont have one.

Jibreil
9th April 2008, 10:22 PM
hehe of course u wouldn't. also i bet ur looking at all the problems the polaris has and are happy you dont have one.

36 pages mostly full of rants towards the end! This has to stop people. XDA-developers wasn't meant to be this way.

My dear friends CHILL and don't flame anymore. Let there be more informative posts about ROM bugs etc. so that the team can improvise in their creation.

wonderiuy
10th April 2008, 12:57 AM
Which languages will the ROM cover? (i hope the most possible)

Pawel062
10th April 2008, 04:02 AM
36 pages mostly full of rants towards the end! This has to stop people. XDA-developers wasn't meant to be this way.

My dear friends CHILL and don't flame anymore. Let there be more informative posts about ROM bugs etc. so that the team can improvise in their creation.

that wasnt a rant. i was just joking around with ltxda. sorry if it came across that way.

Jibreil
10th April 2008, 07:19 AM
that wasnt a rant. i was just joking around with ltxda. sorry if it came across that way.

No its ok, wasn't hinting at you or Itxda, was generally speaking of the situation in hand.

Pawel062
10th April 2008, 02:39 PM
No its ok, wasn't hinting at you or Itxda, was generally speaking of the situation in hand.

oh ok. i guess i just misunderstood you. also as soon as midget comes back on msn, i am closing this thread.

steve cater
10th April 2008, 02:44 PM
All,

We have set up a blog with reviews of O2's Orbit 2 fyi. Its at www.xda-blog.co.uk (http://www.xda-blog.co.uk) let me know what you think and any suggestions greatfully recieved.

Steve