QTEK S200 G3 and WM6

[sammis9]

I've read many posts, and also the upgrade guide, but I still cannot understand what ROM should I use.

I've found many comments on PDAViet, Cristal, ShadoW, etc., but I've not the competence (and the proper english language skill) to know what is the better choice.

I know that newbies are not well tolerate by experts, but I really need help.

1) What should i choose?
2) The upgrade guide is useful for any ROM?

Please any help is appreciated :)

[gullum]

look at the screenshots and choose the rom that you like best.. there is no best rom but there is a best rom for your needs and only you know whitch rom that is.

[sammis9]

Yes I know.

Ok, can you tell me what ROM (of the Cristal or PDAViet type) is more stable and complete (in you opinion)? :confused:

[gullum]

Yes I know.

Ok, can you tell me what ROM (of the Cristal or PDAViet type) is more stable and complete (in you opinion)? :confused:

I can't tell because I only use my Prophet for cooking now but I tried Crystal 5.1 and shadow 1 and shadow Touch. and they are all good although there have been some problems reported on all of them.

But you can also try one of my roms :D

[sammis9]

Ah, ignorance is a big problem. For me is very difficult to read (and understand) dozen of threads. Now I have WM5 and I need an advice to upgrade to WM6.

By the way, I will try to flash some random ROM.

I will follow the upgrade guide, it's right for all ROMs?

An when I flash a ROM, the content of my Qtek will be erased?

[WhiteWizard]

Yes, you'll end up lossing all your data and aps, so choose your ROM carefully. I've installed Fantasic 2.04b and now Gullum's Touch Xb, since I coudn't fix the problems on wi fi and bluethoot on the Fantastic.
First thing you need is a WM5 Basic ROM, I've user PDAViet Temp on Step 1 (Prophet_PV_Temp.zip). Just follow the guide (the old one).
Choose "ROMUpdateUtility_NV_G3.exe" witch is included on this Step 1. Remember that is normal that the process lock itself on 80/85% porcent of success for 10 minutes, allow it to run a max of 30 minutes before attemp any rescue.
As soon as the PDA resets, it will ask you to tap on the screen to start using Windows 5. Instead, execute the BAT file on your Step 2 choosed ROM;
In "ProphetTouchXB.rar", the installer is "Upgrade_ROM.bat". This updater works for G3 and G4 phones as well.
You'll receive a DOS windows with some cannot locate file error, disregard those. This process is the longest time comsumer. When the bat file finish you'll see a "Press any Key...." message in DOS.
Now you need to hard reset your device, press the camera button and the Comm button and the soft reset with the pensil (all at the same time!).
Most likely, when WM6 stars you'll not be able to access Contacts, it will close itself, you'll nedd to "Clear Storage", Start|Settings|System|Clear Storage (On Touch Xb), must performed until you see some action, if nothing happens after you click the option, then it didn't execute.
After you do so, you'll need to soft reset, change regional settings, date, city on the weather forecast, and that's all
Be aware that Touch Xb do not include Windows Live Messenger, so you can install it on SD or use some modified X ROM. Also MS Voice Commander 1.6 needs some tricks to anounce incoming voice calls, and you gonna need some registry changes to improbe volume on that program.

Previous steps that are recomended:
*Detele Sincronization profile in Active Sync 4.5 (and install 4.5 version), all your contacs would remain in MS Outlook, make a copy of the documents.
*Sicronize in Visitting mode (cancel the sicnro option windows, witch ask you to choose what to sincro, Contacts, Calendar, etc.). You will only have the "Expore" option in Active Sync.
* Charge the battery on 100%
* Use a notebook whit full battery load, of a PC with a UPS.

Hope it helps-

[sammis9]

Many thanks! :)

I've installed Crystal, it works, but the real problem is ActiveSync 4.5; it's a very buggy app.

1. First I've got the problem of 85010017 error, and after many attempts, syncronizing 10 contacts at time, it seems I've solved the problem

2. Then the rapimgr.exe has become to use 99% of CPU. No solutions.

3. Restarting the computer, activesync have lost my previous settings, and now I should re-sync all contacts!

I'm very tired: I've seen that there is a program Nokia Intellisync, that could replace activesync. Maybe I will test it. :mad:

[sammis9]

Many thanks! :)

I've installed Crystal, it works, but the real problem is ActiveSync 4.5; it's a very buggy app.

1. First I've got the problem of 85010017 error, and after many attempts, syncronizing 10 contacts at time, it seems I've solved the problem

2. Then the rapimgr.exe has become to use 99% of CPU. No solutions.

3. Restarting the computer, activesync have lost my previous settings, and now I should re-sync all contacts!

I'm very tired: I've seen that there is a program Nokia Intellisync, that could replace activesync. Maybe I will test it. :mad:

Any help??? Sadly, Intellisync needs activesync to work. I've googled anywhere, without answers!

[WhiteWizard]

Its strange, you shoun't have that problem, active sync 4.5 works flawesly for me, with Fantastic 2.04b and Touch Xb, are you sure you format the storage area?, it is supposed to happens after the hard reset, but in my case had to be done manually in both occasions.

[sammis9]

Yes, I do it. I had this problem months before, with WM5 and activesync 4.5; then I read some discussion about it, and downgrade to activesync 4.3.

Now, with WM6, the 4.3 is not supported, so I have installed the 4.5, but it's impossibler to use it. 99% CPU used, 85010017 error on sync (I know they are two different/indipendents problems).

:mad:

[wanwarlock]

try uninstalling & installing back activesync & see if it helps

also do a proper hard reset after upgrading

congrats! you managed to upgrade your prophet!!!

[WhiteWizard]

Its a Windows or USB Problem.

Update BIOS
Reinstall Windows XP SP2, or some up to date Vista.
Reinstall Activesync

If none of this helps, check for a bargain motherboard, if you got a PC Chips, ECS, Asrock, Gigabyte, Aopen, Foxcomm, drop it in the trash container and buy some ASUS, or if you are in a budget, MSI.

[sammis9]

try uninstalling & installing back activesync & see if it helps

also do a proper hard reset after upgrading

congrats! you managed to upgrade your prophet!!!

I've done both things, but without results. It's a common problem for many users, as I've seen in several forums.

The 85010017 error seems to happen with AS 4.5 due to a 2 minuts limit in sync. If, in your first sync your data are many (contacts, calendar), then you can reach this time limit and you'll never be able to resolve it (4.3 had no time limit and works perfectly).

The "99% CPU" error may be related to some communication bug within handheld and PC, that generate an idle loop. I've tried also to change the connection from NIDS to serial, but I wasn't able to let it work.
http://forum.soft32.com/pda/consumes-99-CPU-ftopict77575.html
http://www.spawnrider.net/blogs/2007/10/26/active-sync-45-solution-au-probleme-rapimgr/

:(

[rondol1]

I've done both things, but without results. It's a common problem for many users, as I've seen in several forums.

The 85010017 error seems to happen with AS 4.5 due to a 2 minuts limit in sync. If, in your first sync your data are many (contacts, calendar), then you can reach this time limit and you'll never be able to resolve it (4.3 had no time limit and works perfectly).

The "99% CPU" error may be related to some communication bug within handheld and PC, that generate an idle loop. I've tried also to change the connection from NIDS to serial, but I wasn't able to let it work.
http://forum.soft32.com/pda/consumes-99-CPU-ftopict77575.html
http://www.spawnrider.net/blogs/2007/10/26/active-sync-45-solution-au-probleme-rapimgr/

:(

I'm sure you're right, but... On the other hand, many (I think most) people are using AS 4.5 without any pain, even with big sync-files. So there should be something different on your PC.
Not really a helpfull solution, but it is a waste to spend your time on generalities if they aren't the cause of your problem. Anyway, good luck.

[sammis9]

It's not my PC, as I have the same problem with 2 different PCs (acer aspire, macbook boot camp), one with xp home sp2 and another with xp pro sp2. And I cannot understand why AS 4.5 is full of errors and 4.3 no.

It's really bad if the only solution is to downgrade to WM5 to use AS 4.3...

[rondol1]

It's not my PC, as I have the same problem with 2 different PCs (acer aspire, macbook boot camp), one with xp home sp2 and another with xp pro sp2. And I cannot understand why AS 4.5 is full of errors and 4.3 no.

As I said, I can't help you, but keep in mind that thousands of WM users are doing the job with AS 4.5 without any alteration. So, I don't want to offend... But I think you do something different. And if it's not the PC, then there might be something out of order with your PPC (hardware or any third-party software?) I asume you tried different USB-cables as well?

[sammis9]

As I said, I can't help you, but keep in mind that thousands of WM users are doing the job with AS 4.5 without any alteration. So, I don't want to offend... But I think you do something different. And if it's not the PC, then there might be something out of order with your PPC (hardware or any third-party software?) I asume you tried different USB-cables as well?

I've used different USB cables. I know so much people have AS 4.5 working, but, as you can see by the links I've posted before, I'm not the only one with this kind of problem.

I think, simply, that if certain conditions happens, then you got those errors (also if you are not me...). The problem is to identify these conditions to resolve the problems. A third-party software? Maybe.

[sammis9]

...any third-party software?

I've clean-installed xp pro sp2 on a new partition, no firewalls nor antivirus, no third-party software except for outlook 2007 and AS 4.5.

Always the same two problems.

[rondol1]

I've clean-installed xp pro sp2 on a new partition, no firewalls nor antivirus, no third-party software except for outlook 2007 and AS 4.5.

Always the same two problems.

And on your PPC? Anything out-of-the-ordinairy installed?
If not, maybe you should try to sync with only a few contacts, appointments etc. At least you can find out if it has something to do with the file-size (I don't think it's related, but you never know). If you hadn't tried it on several PC's I would have bet that is was a hardware/BIOS issue.

I'm puzzled.

[sammis9]

On my Qtek s200 there is a fresh install of crystal 5, that erased all. I've not downloaded any other program.

Maybe the problem is the file size (at least for the 85010017 error); for the CPU 99% error, I really don't know how to do.

Installing a demo of Intellisync, the 85010017 error is bypassed (because the AS syncronization is not used), but not the CPU error, because Intellisync needs however Activesync to works.

[pego2007]

Are your Ports free for activesync:

Here are the ports you must have free:
(TCP incoming: 990-990,999-999,5678-5678,5721-5721,26675-26675)
(UDP outgoing: 5679-5679)

After you have installed the ports, restart your windows .If there are same
error,delete the networkcontroller for your qtek in system control,delete your
qtec-driver in systemcontrol.
Then you must plug out your usb-cable from pc and plug it in again. After the new networkcontroller found ,your qtec is recognized by the system. Then acticesync 4.5 should work.

please excuse my terrible english,i am from germany.

hope i could help you

greetings

pego2007

[ptsonick]

Yes, I do it. I had this problem months before, with WM5 and activesync 4.5; then I read some discussion about it, and downgrade to activesync 4.3.

Now, with WM6, the 4.3 is not supported, so I have installed the 4.5, but it's impossibler to use it. 99% CPU used, 85010017 error on sync (I know they are two different/indipendents problems).

:mad:

Did you try to Update/Repair you Office Installation ?

It did the job for me. Had the same problem, no sync with WMDC6.1. Repaired outlook2007 installation and could sync.

[sammis9]

Did you try to Update/Repair you Office Installation ?

It did the job for me. Had the same problem, no sync with WMDC6.1. Repaired outlook2007 installation and could sync.

Repaired, and also fresh-installed on a new partition. No luck.


Are your Ports free for activesync:

Here are the ports you must have free:
(TCP incoming: 990-990,999-999,5678-5678,5721-5721,26675-26675)
(UDP outgoing: 5679-5679)

After you have installed the ports, restart your windows .If there are same
error,delete the networkcontroller for your qtek in system control,delete your
qtec-driver in systemcontrol.
Then you must plug out your usb-cable from pc and plug it in again. After the new networkcontroller found ,your qtec is recognized by the system. Then acticesync 4.5 should work.

please excuse my terrible english,i am from germany.

hope i could help you

greetings

pego2007

In my Kerio personal firewall it's not possible to configure single ports, so I've made my tests by temporary disabling the firewall (I've also a router, and the external ports are all closed, because it' not possible to configure it)

Regarding system controls, I've not understand where to find it.

Thanks anyway and surely your english is better than mine :)

[pego2007]

@sammis 9

I mean the Windows firewall. You must go to systemcontrol,then securecenter,then windows firewall.In the second registercard named exception ,there are the ports . I send you a picture,then you see what i mean.

greetings

pego2007

[sammis9]

@sammis 9

I mean the Windows firewall. You must go to systemcontrol,then securecenter,then windows firewall.In the second registercard named exception ,there are the ports . I send you a picture,then you see what i mean.

greetings

pego2007

Oh, thanks, pego2007. My windows firewall is completely disabled, as I use Kerio personal firewall instead.

[sammis9]

pego2007, you're right! It was Kerio firewall, that continue to works also when it's disabled and block in some way AS 4.5!

I've completely uninstalled Kerio and disabled Windows firewall and no more CPU 99%; after that, using the program SyncAlive and syncronizing item by item I also avoid the 85010017 error.

The only problem is that now I've all contacts, calendar events, tasks, etc. duplicated, so I must find some program to eliminate duplicates. :)

[rondol1]

pego2007, you're right! It was Kerio firewall, that continue to works also when it's disabled and block in some way AS 4.5!

I've completely uninstalled Kerio and disabled Windows firewall and no more CPU 99%; after that, using the program SyncAlive and syncronizing item by item I also avoid the 85010017 error.

The only problem is that now I've all contacts, calendar events, tasks, etc. duplicated, so I must find some program to eliminate duplicates. :)

I'm glad to read you found your explanation!

[pego2007]

@ sammis9
Delete all your contacts,calendar events,etc. on your qtek, Then sync again with outlook. You have now only the events on your qtek,that you have before in outlook.

greetings

pego2007

[sammis9]

@ sammis9
Delete all your contacts,calendar events,etc. on your qtek, Then sync again with outlook. You have now only the events on your qtek,that you have before in outlook.

greetings

pego2007

Unfortunately the duplicates are on both sides, but I've found some utility to resolve the problem.

Thanks again, and Happy New Year!