Lost-in-translation GER: German ROM - 080218 (Aku 0.7.0) [Archive]

Lost_in_translation

26-12-2007, 08:52 PM

I have finished a german translation of the Dopod WM6-Rom for the P3600.

This is not a "cool" modification, but a very plain version. I changed nothing but the language and replaced the base-rom with a newer version, because I don't want to trade reliability for bells and whistles. After all, there's a cab for everything, so it's always simple to install HTC Home or other features into a plain Rom, while it is very difficult to remove a bad application from a feature-rich Rom.

The differences to the original Dopod-release are simple:

- replacement of the MUIs
- changes in the registry for language-specific settings
- migration to a newer xip and base-os, while retaining factory-default configuration

18508-0.7.0, dated 08/02/18: This is a version with the newer OS 18508 and XIP 1948:

http://rapidshare.com/files/92801530/LIT_3.08.0218_GER.zip

If you like some eye-candy like HTC Home: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=344360

My personal favorites are the HTC home customizer which installs HTC Home 2.0 with the backlight-fix, and the HTC Task Manager 2.0. These two applications give me everything I need to be productive, and I found that these versions had no bad impact on reliability and memory-consumption.

You can find a cab containing a german HTC Home together with the "Large Titlebar"-extension in this link: http://rapidshare.com/files/82782911/HTC_komplett.cab

Known issues:

- Bluetooth-settings do still contain two untranslated menus. I will fix this as soon as someone can provide me with a newer version of the german mui-files, maybe from a Polaris or Kaiser device.

The nbh contains only the operating system, no Radio, no SPL and no splashscreens. Before you flash this, make sure your device has HSPL 1.20/1.30 and at least Radio 1.38.00.11 - I have not tried any older radio. 1.38.00.11 is the version which comes with Htc's latest german WM5-Rom, so if you had WM5 and GPS was working, the radio is ok.

Any feedback on bugs is welcome. However, don't ask me for the inclusion of additional packages - I want to keep this version as plain as possible.

The advantage of a plain ROM: At boot-time, I have >27MB of free RAM and the device is stable enough to run several days without a soft-reset. After all, my uptime was only limited by the releasecycle, not by problems with the latest builds.

Have fun :-)

---
My sincerest thanks to:

- Bepe - for his tools
- ervius - your rewrites are just awesome convenient
- Anichillus - Hypercore helped me with my first steps

Lost_in_translation

26-12-2007, 08:53 PM

History:

071226: First public release

071230: Re-release: Added two missing muis for Phonesettings and Poweroff-warning, replaced the camera-application to provide GPS-integration and enable the auxiliary camera. Some minor translations like "Speicherkarte" added.

080104: Changed OS to 18508, XIP to 1948 - both seem to be very stable. Added OneNote. Additional translation of HSDPA-changer. OEM-applications unchanged.

080109: 080104 missed two muis and two shortcuts. Fixed. One addition: I included Schap's VOIP-configuration tool, as AKU 0.7.0 comes with VoIP and there is no official tool to configure it. Schaps Tool is not signed, so you will get a warning when you start it the first time, but just once :-)

080113: Transcriber and Live were still 0409, fixed. Created a shortcut for Comm Manager in "Programme".

080114: Notizen (Notes.exe) fixed, did not start in 080113. After a hardreset, the Timezone-information will finally give the correct value "GMT+1, Berlin" instead of "GMT+1, Prag"

080116: Kontakte: Menü->Sim-Manager had no caption. The item in the menu was functional, but blank. Fixed, the caption "Sim-Manager" is now displayed. The Sim-Manager application has been updated to 6.10.

080118: Beleuchtung: Menü->Stromversorgung did not work, fixed. If you have 080116 and the cab with the fix, there is no need to install 080118.

080205: SAP Einstellungen is now included (forgot that as I use no BT), and the Camera can now send a picture by Mail or MMS. If you use 080118 and not BT-car speaker with dialer function, there is not much need to update from 080118. This cab fixes the camera: http://rapidshare.com/files/89486334/LIT_Camerafix_3.08.0118.cab

080217: SAP Einstellungen replaced with the version from a current production device, as the one I used had some issues.
080218: Corrected a registry entry, enabling camera to send a picture via E-Mail directly from the camera menu. If you have 080217 installed, just set HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\Camera\SendCommand\EMail\Enable to 1

fktsndr

26-12-2007, 09:48 PM

Link added to Cab collection thread:)

Lost_in_translation

27-12-2007, 01:13 AM

Great idea, the link is above :-)

My personal favorites:

HTC Home customizer 0.8:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=319308

This installs and configures HTC Home 2.0 with the Backlight fix. After installation of the Home, select HTC Options and select Language: German

HTC Task Manager 2.0:

http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-htc-task-manager-v2-0.html

(Although the Rom contains Task Manager 1.0 which does the job as well, but 2.0 gives you the ability to end all processes from the Today-page)

HTC Large Title bar:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=58141&d=1195040825

This makes the tiny icons for volume, GPRS-connection etc. finger-friendly.

Top_Gun

28-12-2007, 01:01 AM

Hm, did anyone try it? It seems a little old, but if it's stable...

TG

Lost_in_translation

30-12-2007, 03:34 PM

Hi,

it seems like I missed two files, resulting in the power-off-warning and the UMTS/GSM-dialog in phone settings to remain in english.

Furthermore, the Hermes-camera-application lacks GPS-photo and the ability to use the secondary camera.

I will provide a new ROM-release later today. For those who don't want to reflash, here is a link for the files:

http://rapidshare.com/files/80067110/Update_Files.zip.html

Unzip the files, and put them into the Windows-folder. The camera-files are replacements for Rom-files, so you will probably need Total Commander to do this.

The ROM will also fix some missing translations for Control Panels, change the foldername of the sd-card to Speicherkarte and fix the devicename for the Vista mobility center.

Edit: The new ROM is online...

Lost_in_translation

05-01-2008, 12:17 PM

New version dated 08/01/04:

Changed base-Rom to 18508-Aku 0.7.0
Changed XIP to 1948, as it is reported to fix old problems concerning registry-flush (corrupted password, wep-keys and so on)
Camera fixed (was already in the last version)
Added OneNote

http://rapidshare.com/files/81400601/Lost_in_translation_080104_1948_18508_070.zip.html

Have fun.

esackbauer

05-01-2008, 08:06 PM

OK, that looks promising now. Will test it against the Bepe 0.79 which I have currently.
I hope the memory will not go down so quickly as it does in Bepes Rom.

SuperFury

05-01-2008, 08:24 PM

Wow, finally someone with a clean version in German, hope you go on and push it forward...

SuperFury

05-01-2008, 08:56 PM

Lost_in_translation

05-01-2008, 09:54 PM

Okay, just a few things to say so far:

Not translated:

Microfon AGC -> missing file: MicrophoneAGC.exe.0407.MUI or newer version needed (see attachement)

Default-Folder of Java Midlets is "My Midlets" - perhaps translate it to "Eigene Midlets"

Missing Links:

Adobe Reader seems to be in Windows Folder, Shortcut is missing (better would be no Acrobat at all in a clean ROM :) )

Thats it, wonderful so long but, could you release your next version without any HTCHomePlug stuff, there is still "HTCHomePlug" in Today options... ;)
And...before you bash me 'round...perhaps without Windows Live ?!

Thanks mate

Hi,

thanks for the feedback. The mui for Microphone AGC was missing and will be included in the next release.

The Acrobat Reader is part of the current official HTC-Roms, and I will continue to include the applications which are part of the official roms. The missing shortcut will be fixed in the next release. Heavily-customized roms are a thing which I leave to others.

Concerning the HTCHomePlug: I know what you mean. However, it's the same thing: As it's in the original rom, I will continue to provide it, as it's part of the look and feel that a stock Trinity provides. Maybe I will turn it off by default. The HTCHomePlug does not to eat up memory or cause other side-effects, though.

Lost_in_translation

05-01-2008, 10:08 PM

OK, that looks promising now. Will test it against the Bepe 0.79 which I have currently.
I hope the memory will not go down so quickly as it does in Bepes Rom.

Well, after 36 hours, my Trinity is at 18MB with the HTC Home running. In the meantime, I have used about every app on the device - AS, Word, OneNote, iGo, SPB Wallet. Not too shabby, is it? :-)

One small caveat: While I had about 27mb of free Ram with 1644 after a soft-reset, this has dropped to 25mb with 18508. However, since the device does not consume the rest, I can live with that.

LIT

SuperFury

06-01-2008, 02:56 PM

With HTC Home (6-tag) + Customizer still 20MB free, very good indeed !!!
Why not start a german kitchen with this as base ?! :D
If you are interested, pm me ;)

Lost_in_translation

10-01-2008, 02:22 AM

Updated the front page with download information for LIT_3.08.0109

MrFreeze

10-01-2008, 05:18 AM

würde gerne wie beim Bepe ROM die Tastatur in diesem GrauSchwarz haben

habe dazu es erst mit der

msim.dll.0407.mui aus dem bepe ROM versucht funktioniert nicht

dann hab ich durh zufall hier im forum viele Files gefunden die msimde.96.dll.0407.mui - so genannt sind für das Tastatur-Layout - aber auch mit dieser Benennung habe ich kein Glück die Tastatur anderesfarblich zu bekommen

Alles was passiert ist das ich dann gar keine Tastatur mehr habe und auch das Tastatur ICON verschunden ist und die tastatur sich zwar aufklappen lässt aber gar ncihts mehr zu sehen ist dann von dieser!

tjlabais

10-01-2008, 08:21 AM

My agenda: Adapt the build to a newer base-Rom, however I have no access to a newer unmodified base-rom.

you can get htc universal test ROM aku 0.7.0 (unmodified)
http://www.mediafire.com/?3m2i554otzy

I practically have the same idea as yours, except I worked on WWE version. You might consider removing the extended ROM as all the cabs there can be incorporated in ROM, and increase storage memory.

It's not official, but it's not cooked either. Known bugs of this ROM:
1. images and videos won't open in pimg.exe because of missing registry settings (you can get this from your present aku 0.3)
2. webview.dll needs to be replaced by an older version because it lags during browsing in PIE.
3. when porting to this build, I experience memory leaks which was easily solved by replacing filesys.exe in XIP of dopod from the same universal ROM.
4. I can't speak for battery drain because I'm using the digital switch dual sim adapter which drains the trinity in 24hours. All I can say, I'm having the same battery consumption before and after I upgraded to aku 0.7

with this stable build, I don't need to reset my device, and have tried going two weeks without any problems. hope this info helps. :cool:

Lalle

10-01-2008, 07:28 PM

Good to hear that someone else is keeping the Ger-Roms up :-)

Everything looks great so far but can you implement the GER MS Voice Command 1.6 ?
That would be so great to hear the numbers and names of the incomming callers.

Thanks in advanced
Lalle

Lost_in_translation

11-01-2008, 11:13 AM

you can get htc universal test ROM aku 0.7.0 (unmodified)

Thanks for your hints :-) Which build is this? I am at 0.7.0, but with the old 18508 - it seems to work so far, but it's always good to have an alternative solution if any problem arises. :-)

Everything looks great so far but can you implement the GER MS Voice Command 1.6 ?
That would be so great to hear the numbers and names of the incomming callers.

Hi,

I am thinking about extensions, but right now I am still testing whether the base is as stable as I like it to be.

Is the german voice command available as a cab? In this case, you can install it yourself, this shouldn't be that much hassle. :-)

If I offer a ROM with extensions, it will be as an alternative to the base rom which I like to be as unmodified as possible.

Have fun!

Lost_in_translation

12-01-2008, 06:25 PM

Hi,

the last thing that's not translated is Windows Live. Since Microsoft has started to charge for Live on another platform, and I myself prefer ICQ, what is the general opinion:

- Include a german Live

or

- Remove Live entirely, so there's a little more space?

Have fun!

esackbauer

12-01-2008, 07:42 PM

Since Microsoft has started to charge for Live on another platform,

This seems to be a test on the S60 platform with only selected providers in Sweden and UK. Does not affect Windows Mobile (yet).

However charging applies only for the Windows Live Mobile, so feel free to use it further for free with e.g. imov Messenger, this one works indirectly over a Jabber server:
http://www.movsoftware.com/products/imov/imov.htm
(download link at end of the page)

Lost_in_translation

12-01-2008, 11:50 PM

It's the "yet" about which we agree. MS has expressed that they might charge for Live on other platforms in the future. I am quite sure they would do this as soon as ICQ and AIM leave the platform.

Concerning Voice Control:

I have just had a trial. After installation and activation, the free ram after a soft reset is about 2.5MB lower. Legal issues not withstanding, I feel that this is a quite heavy impact. It's easy to install: Just start the Exe on your pc or start the cab on your PDA, so it's not a big benefit to have it in the rom.

Have fun!

Lost_in_translation

14-01-2008, 01:59 AM

Ok, 080113 should be the last release for a while. Lost-in-translation is designed as a true-as-can-be Rom which follows htc's layout as far as possible. For those wondering, I will outline my mission:

- Those applications that htc delivers on this platform, meaning that everything that's included in a WM5-P3600 (Ger) is included
- Genuine build: As far as I know, 18508 is a genuine build, and I know I haven't tampered with it.
- Stability: I couldn't break it, at least not with those applications which I use regularly. If you can, please let me know - stability is important for me.
- Original security policy: The device employs the policies which HTC implements on the german Hermes, and which comply to microsoft's best practices for non-branded WM6-devices.

Based on the last point, I have not used self-translated or modified files in sys or oem, as the device would prompt you for all unsigned files or unknown certificates. All files keep their original signature, either MS or HTC.

This is philosophy, and it can be argued. But I prefer security and trust over features, and want to use a rom which is - to my best knowledge - legit, as it uses only those applications which HTC sold us with the device.

There is only one exception: Schap's VOIP-setup is included. I feel that voip should be configurable for everybody, not just corporations with provisioning systems.

Have fun!

_wolfman_

14-01-2008, 02:07 PM

Thanks for the ROM, but I've a problem opening notes.exe - notizen.
I tried to open a note and also the notes.exe... nothing happened...

Lost_in_translation

14-01-2008, 04:20 PM

Thanks for the ROM, but I've a problem opening notes.exe - notizen.
I tried to open a note and also the notes.exe... nothing happened...

I'll have a look into this. Thanks for the feedback.

Have fun!

(As of 20:59 CET, a new version LIT_080114 is available with Rom-stamp 3.08.0114, which fixes this problem and also the time-zone after hard-reset)

tjlabais

15-01-2008, 04:00 AM

Thanks for your hints :-) Which build is this? I am at 0.7.0, but with the old 18508 - it seems to work so far, but it's always good to have an alternative solution if any problem arises. :-)

Hi, sorry for the late reply. It's the 18508 build. Seems you have it already. :) good luck! I'm using it now on my P3600, and it is working great. You can further boost the performance by applying NETCF 3.5. So, I'm sticking to this build for now.

Lost_in_translation

16-01-2008, 09:20 AM

There is one problem in 080114: In "Kontakte", the menu item for "Sim Manager" is blank, but works. This can be corrected by just one modification in the registry:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\OEM\InvokeSIMMgr\0409]
"ExtMenuName"="SIM Manager"

Rename the key 0409 to 0407

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\OEM\InvokeSIMMgr\0407]
"ExtMenuName"="SIM Manager"

After a soft-reset (or better yet, turning the phone off and turning it back on) the item is visible.

I will post a new link to a corrected version in an hour or so, but there is no need to flash this if you already have 080114 and can use a registry editor.

Have fun!

Lalle

16-01-2008, 09:32 AM

Hello LIT!

can you please also cover the issue that the link under = Einstellungen/Beleuchtung/Menü/Stromversorgung has no function!?

Thanks Lalle

Lost_in_translation

16-01-2008, 10:44 AM

Thanks for the feedback, I'll have a look at this in the evening. :-)

Release 080116 with the Sim-Manager-fix is now online.

Lost_in_translation

16-01-2008, 08:13 PM

I found a problem with backlight.exe, it will be fixed in the next release.

Users of 080116 or below can install this package:

http://rapidshare.com/files/84306514/LIT_Backlight_replacement_20080116.cab

Be aware: You do not need this cab for any version newer than 08/01/16!

Just install this. Afterwards, I switched the device fully of with the powerbutton, and restarted. The menu is now fully functional.

Have fun!

cyron_at

16-01-2008, 11:39 PM

Hello,

which version of .net does the latest ROM (080116) include?

Thx,
Chris

Lost_in_translation

16-01-2008, 11:51 PM

Currently it's 2.0. I consider the switch to 3.5, but am still unsure about possible incompatibilities. Besides, I don't want to change substantial things until I know that the rom is not only stable on my machine.

Have fun!

esackbauer

17-01-2008, 04:01 PM

Lost_in_translation

17-01-2008, 06:50 PM

I have set up the device to sync with an Exchange Server.
Syncing over the air (UMTS, GPRS) is working.

However when I connect the Trinity to the USB of the computer and ActiveSync starts syncing, I get error 0x80072EE2. It syncs only the things not on Exchange Server (Mobile favorites, files).

I use AS to Exchange myself, and can sync both with UMTS/GPRS and over my desktop at work just fine.

80072ee2 means that AS is unable to contact the host.

First attempt: Can you open https://exchangeserver.xyz.au from the PIE? You should see either a webpage or the standardhomepage of IIS.

If this does not work, you have a routing problem.

I use Vista Mobile Device Center 6.1, the connection setting is set to "Automatic", "Internet" works fine as well. Our computers have fqdn-names ending like mycomputer2711.domain.de

The network settings for E-plus were set with the assistant which is available from HTC's website.

In "Einstellungungen/Verbindungen/Verbindung", "Erweitert/Netzwerke auswählen" I have set both values to "E-plus Internet" (this should work with any provider just fine)

The proxy is deactivated, the frontend mail server is available in the LAN without a proxy under its normal fully qualified name.

Have fun!

Lost_in_translation

18-01-2008, 08:08 PM

3.08.0118 is out. Since I found nothing to improve apart from the fixed backlight.exe, this release gives the same features as 3.08.0116.

If you have 3.08.0116 and the cab with the fix, there is no need to upgrade to this release.

Have fun!

Lost_in_translation

20-01-2008, 07:32 PM

Hi,

while there were several downloads of 0118, there is no feedback. Anything else to fix? ;-)

Have fun!

arndti1981

20-01-2008, 11:22 PM

Hello,

I updated to your ROM after I have tried several other ROMS.

I think its the best for me. No stuff I don't like. So I can decide what i need.

I don't have any problems withit.

But I am looking for german HTC apps.
So hopefully you know where I can get them.
Or you cann tell me how I can translate them.

For example the HTC Action screen.

So and now:
Thanks for your great work.

Lost_in_translation

20-01-2008, 11:51 PM

Hi,

you have seen the link to the package with HTC Home and Large menus in Posting 2?

Translating yourself is possible with any ressource editor, as mui-files are normal Windows-DLL-files in the PE-format, which is the same on desktops and mobiles. However, you will make the signature of the files invalid. In most cases, you can still start the app, and will just need to confirm the warning that yes, you really want to use this file once.

Usually, you can install the english version, and just rename the mui. Often, it it also possible to use the muis from any current german device like a TyTn 2 or a Touch Dual.

Have fun!

arndti1981

21-01-2008, 12:03 AM

Yes I saw it and I am already using it.

Ok nice to know.
I tried it with Actin screen, buit it didn't work.
Stil in English.

So I try to translate it for myself.

tjlabais

21-01-2008, 02:08 AM

@Lost_in_translation:

Are you guys experiencing a very soft sound on bluetooth headsets? I just tried to install SRS WOW drivers on the Trinity, and I got substantial sound improvement. Maybe you'd like to include that on your next ROM.

cheers,
TJ :cool:

Lost_in_translation

21-01-2008, 09:15 AM

Hi,

sorry I don't use bluetooth phones, so I have no first-hand experience on this matter. Is this software freely available? In any case, can you give me a link? I know of an SRS-plugin for the WMP on XP, but have not heard of a WM-product.

Have fun!

an-di

21-01-2008, 09:39 AM

Since sommer 2007 i use the Bepe 0.78vc german Rom. It works great, but Bepe is gone away and his rom is old...... On this weekend i installed the lit 3.08.0118. My first impression: The old bilious green look anf feel from my Trinity ic come back... My first test was verry positive! All funktions seem to work and a small rom is a good idea. There where cab's for all in this forum... (I also wish me a collection of german HTC Programms like Action screen, HTC album, etc...)

One thing: With the HTC-Home Today Plugin "HTC_komplett.cab" postet in the fist article of this thread it is impossible to add own entries in the HTC_Weather407.xml file - "Daten für die ausgewählte Stadt können nicht heruntergeladen werden".. All other default Citicies working.
the xml file is from my old Bepe-Rom and the file forks fine there.. this is a curios error...
cu andi

arndti1981

21-01-2008, 10:37 AM

Hello,

as you saw, I had the same problems with german HTC apps.

I have now Action Screen running in german.
You have to use the 409 mui file.
Then you have to change the registry:

HKLM/Sotware/HTC/Biotouch/ActionScreen/APP_...

there you can rename the entries.

After a softreset everything is fine.

ZakMcRofl

21-01-2008, 12:18 PM

I like the idea of a plain, clean rom.
Do you know if the Touch stuff (Cube...) can be added via a CAB file or if it has to be included in the Rom?

esackbauer

21-01-2008, 05:04 PM

I have flashed version 080116.
I have set up the device to sync with an Exchange Server.
Syncing over the air (UMTS, GPRS) is working.

However when I connect the Trinity to the USB of the computer and ActiveSync starts syncing, I get error 0x80072EE2. It syncs only the things not on Exchange Server (Mobile favorites, files).

I've got it working again. However it was quite weird.
My T-Mobile UMTS Connection had our company proxy active whenever I was connecting via USB, I removed the proxy from that connection.
Then I set ActiveSync to use the network "Firmennetzwerk" and configured this Connection under "Verbindungen" to use the companies proxy.
So I set programs with automatic Internet access to "T-Mobile" and programs with automatic access to private network to "Firmennetzwerk"

Lost_in_translation

21-01-2008, 06:53 PM

Thanks for your comments!

ZacMcRofl: FTouchflo, Biocube etc. are all available as cabs, so this should not be a problem. You will probably need to install both ftouchflo and a cube. However, after some fiddling I found that it does not work that well (or maybe I have an incompatible thumb) so I went back to normal applications. I use PocketCMkeyboard and HTC Home. With these additions, my device is as fingerfriendly as I need it.

Esackbauer: I can only guestimate that the other rom contained a network wizard which automatically set these things as you needed them.

Have fun!

chalid

22-01-2008, 12:08 AM

hi Lost_in_translation,

do you know of any memory leak in your rom (LIT_3.08.0118_GER)?

i tried schap's rom for the past couple of days and had more free program memory ("Programmspeicher"). most of the time i had 25-26MB of free memory while your rom only has 22MB. at startup i have 28MB on your rom and ~27MB on schap's. no programs running ...

Lost_in_translation

22-01-2008, 12:34 AM

Hi Chalid,

I am not aware of any program causing a memory leak. The memory-reduction in my device is similar to the effect I can see with WM5 on my old Axim x51v with the genuine dell-made operating system.

WM5/6 do not release all the memory a program has once occupied. This has been an issue with WM5 and seems to continue with WM6. MS claims that this offers performance advantages if the application is launched again. Anyway, there might be a memory optimization with Build 18548 over 18508, and I would like to port my work to 18548. However, I have no access to an unmodified build 18548. If you have access to the sys-folder of an unmodified WM6-device, please let me know :-)

Have fun!

tjlabais

22-01-2008, 02:34 PM

tjlabais

22-01-2008, 02:35 PM

chalid

22-01-2008, 02:53 PM

to which services are you referring to? i close each programm i'm not using.

but Lost_in_translation seems to be right. wm doenst release all memory which was occupied by a closed program. after not touching the phone for 2-3 hours the free memory went from 45% up to 51%.

i just wanted to know if there were any problems as i noticed this. well, there are none. so i stick with this rom :)

ZakMcRofl

23-01-2008, 12:28 AM

Does VOIP work stable and correctly with this Rom? Does it use the internal speaker or the external one?

tjlabais

23-01-2008, 03:35 AM

to which services are you referring to? i close each programm i'm not using.
I experimented on this. I chose SQMUPLOAD and WLMSERVICE since they are both from windows update and windows live which I don't use. I set them to manual and reset the device. Here's the RAM free result:
Before: 24.06MB
After: 25.01

but Lost_in_translation seems to be right. wm doenst release all memory which was occupied by a closed program. after not touching the phone for 2-3 hours the free memory went from 45% up to 51%.
That is correct, that is why there are such program as OXIOS FREEMEM, MEMAID, etc. to free the memory once in a while and do not require you to softreset your device.

i just wanted to know if there were any problems as i noticed this. well, there are none. so i stick with this rom :)
I have had not encountered any problems with the original builds... The memory leak mentioned earlier was related to filesys.exe of the XIP section after upgrading to a newer build. BUT if you use the original corresponding filesys.exe of the build you upgrade to like the build 1908 lost_in_translation mentioned, then you won't have this problem.

You would have problems if you have apps that require large RAM and the used memory wasn't reclaimed yet... GPS navigation, WMP, etc. (even in the original ROM)

Lost_in_translation

24-01-2008, 04:21 PM

Does VOIP work stable and correctly with this Rom? Does it use the internal speaker or the external one?

That's for someone else to decide. My provider does not allow the use of VoIP with the data options. :-(

Have fun!

messiah

24-01-2008, 09:15 PM

first of all, thanks a lot to the creator of this!
to those who have tried it: is this ROM better than bepe? :-)
what steps are needed to be done to get a bepe similiar rom (htc home *g) with the latest updates?
is it only adding the HTC_komplett.cab?

tjlabais

25-01-2008, 07:56 AM

Hi LIT,

attached herewith is the Chinese SRS WOW ARM files. I've also included the English CPL file. I think you can easily change this to German.

enjoy!
tj

edit: The XDA Atom Life / XDA Comet has WMP with SRS support
edit2: AFAIK XDA Comet has german version which means you can pull out the files from that device as posted by scorpio16v in the XDA Atom Forum.

Lost_in_translation

25-01-2008, 09:05 AM

edit: The XDA Atom Life / XDA Comet has WMP with SRS support
edit2: AFAIK XDA Comet has german version which means you can pull out the files from that device as posted by scorpio16v in the XDA Atom Forum.

Hey, thanks for the Help :-)

Have fun!

ajax26

25-01-2008, 10:59 AM

sorry kenn mich in diesem forum mit den rom nummern nicht mehr aus. welches ist nun die letzte version des roms ???

@lost in translation

danke vielmals für deine arbeit, so habe ich wenigstens nicht den eindruck das mein trinity zu aussterben verurteilt ist

Lost_in_translation

25-01-2008, 12:26 PM

The version numbers are easy to understand: 3.yymmdd - so 3.080118 is the build from 18.01.08, and the highest number is the latest build. 3.080118 is the most current one. I know of no bugs to fix, so it's time to decide what makes sense for the future development. I have no plans to build an eye-candy-rom. Since there is very few variety for german roms, I believe that it is better to create a stable build which the user may modify to his own taste.

Actually, the P3600 is going to die - with the short release-cycles for the hardware, there will always be another one in the near future. In my opinion, the touch cruise is the legitimate heir of the Trinity.

Have fun!

chalid

26-01-2008, 12:56 AM

Lost_in_translation

26-01-2008, 01:22 AM

with the possibility of upgrading the os to the latest version there is no point in getting a new phone - at least for some time. i really dont see any magnificent improvements with the new or announced phones - expect for the camera maybe.

Actually, there will be reasons to upgrade like doubling the ram to 128MB (very handy for some software like Navigon), new touch screens which are able to recognize two fingers at the same time like on the iPhone, or other things I can't even imagine at the moment.

However, I don't pay for the phone, it belongs to my company. So I will have to wait until they decide to replace the device :-)

Have fun!

chalid

26-01-2008, 03:44 PM

i think it depends on your needs. all the programs i use work fine with the build in memory of the trinity. and since the qualcomm cpu and chipset didnt bring any speed-improvement, it makes no sense to buy one of the current htc phones.

the phone handling could be one thing interesting in the future, but it will take some time for wm7 to be released - so no hurry there. but touchFLO or the iphone are imho mostly unnecessary. after 10 minutes the sliding gestures and screen gets annoying. i mean: how the hell is it an improvement to slide over the screen to unlock the phone?! the simple button on the side does just well and is more user-friendly.

for zooming the wheel on the side works just fine. in fact i have no desire to tip on the screen for every single action. the combination of buttons and touchscreen is the reason for me to use such a phone. with almost no buttons the iphone for instance is the opposite and definitely need more attention when using it while walking or driving. lets hope windows mobile 7 wont be a clone.

but of course, there are things that would be nice - like a higher resoultion of the screen, 800x600 maybe, or more build in memory. of course a smaller size would be nice too. and so on. there will be always something to improve, thats for sure. the question is - do YOU need this improvements?

;)

tjlabais

27-01-2008, 10:15 AM

esackbauer

27-01-2008, 04:05 PM

What me drives crazy is the "Big tray icon".
So when you click on the loadspeaker symbol, you get another bubble with the magnified icons. Then you have to click on loudspeaker again.

Now while this seems convenient for thumb operation, it is annoying while having a phone call. You cannot change volume of the speaker with the jog wheel on the side any more.
Is there any way to disable this tray application?

Lost_in_translation

27-01-2008, 10:41 PM

Hi esackbauer,

this is not a part of the rom, but of the package "htc_komplett.cab" - it contains the HTC Home and a service which is usually called "htc large title bar".

You can remove the service by deleting the registry-key HKLM\Services\LargeTitleBar entirely. After a restart, the service is gone for good. The file is in \windows and can be deleted as well.

Alternatively, you can set the service to "manual" with SKTools.

Have fun!

engelolli

30-01-2008, 10:21 AM

ZakMcRofl

30-01-2008, 11:32 AM

Is a WM6.1 version planned? I'd be willing to beta test, I could for example do VOIP testing (via WLAN only but its a start).

Lost_in_translation

30-01-2008, 04:52 PM

Hi,
does anyone have a working version of the large menu?
i only found this version, but it dosn't work with this rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1658031&postcount=428

Greetz, oliver

Oliver,

the package to which you are refering is probably made of files with no signature or a broken signature. LIT uses the original and microsoft-endorsed security settings. Some applications, especially if they rely on their own drivers, will not load if they are not properly signed.

You can change this behaviour in the registry or with Schaps tool, but I won't change this in the Rom, I want the Rom to be as secure as a genuine rom.

Have fun!

Lost_in_translation

30-01-2008, 05:44 PM

@ZakMcRofl:

I plan to try it if I meet the prerequisites.

1.) An unmodified 6.1-rom from any device
2.) German MUIs - I do not think that the current muis will still work for 6.1, as there will probably be some changes in the ressources
3.) The XIP must be compatible to what I have right now.

Have fun!

MasterAndi

31-01-2008, 11:10 AM

Hello,

first thanks for this great release,
but i miss the SAP-Settings for Bluetooth.

So I can't connect to my Car Kit.

Can you implement this feature, i thought it is standard ??

Greetz

Andreas

Lost_in_translation

31-01-2008, 09:54 PM

Thanks for the feedback, it helps me to debug my device. Since I don't use BT, I did not find this one myself.

SAP is a third-party-application which belongs to the package OEMDrivers. I missed it somehow when I ported the rom.

Could you try this cab:

http://rapidshare.com/files/88147332/LIT_SAP_Settings.cab

If it works, I will built the files into a new release of the rom.

Have fun!

MasterAndi

31-01-2008, 11:21 PM

Hello,

i testet the LIT_SAP_Settings.cab.

Under Programs is now the Button for the SAP-Settings and activate it.
Now my Car Kit find the trinity as a SAP Device.
I Pair both, then the car Kit connect the sim Card but disconnect immediately.
The next connect try the same trinity say connect -> disconnect. (and so on)

I get no stable connection.

With the original WM5 Firmware it works fine !

New Info:
I found an english Version of the SAP-Settings that work.
Maybe it helps you to translate and implement.

Greetz Andreas

FallinHigh

01-02-2008, 11:50 AM

perfect work!!

But I'm searching for a fully functional HTC Home. I got one where I am not able to add favourite persons and applications and the weather doesn't work too.

As well as the HTC Home I'm searching for a solution for Active Sync via Bluetooth. If I want to sync via Bluetooth I get an error, that there's no paired device. :(

Can someone help me?

Lost_in_translation

01-02-2008, 11:52 PM

New Info:
I found an english Version of the SAP-Settings that work.
Maybe it helps you to translate and implement.

Greetz Andreas

Hi,

the difference between your english cab and the german one was mainly a registry setting which starts sapsettings.exe after a soft-reset. I have added this to the cab and reissued it as

http://rapidshare.com/files/88429290/LIT_SAP_Settings.cab

Would anyone try it again? I have no BT-hardware, and can not test this myself. 1.) Deinstall other sap-package, 2.) install this cab, 3.) soft-reset the device.

If it works, I will build it into the next rom.

@Fallinhigh: The htc_komplett.cab has working weather, working contacts and working shortcuts. I have not tried to add a new city, as I live in a city which is covered by the default list.

Have fun!

MasterAndi

02-02-2008, 11:04 AM

Hello,

I tried the new Version, but there is still the same problem, connect and disconnect in the same second.

Maybe you can simply translate the english version ?

Greetz Andreas

Lost_in_translation

02-02-2008, 01:30 PM

Maybe you can simply translate the english version ?

I'll give the version a try with the mui I have. Since I don't add unofficial certificates to the device, the MUI needs to be signed with OEM_2005 (HTCs certificate). Thus, doing my own translations is out of the equation.

Have fun!

****
Update 16:30 PM:

Could anyone try to install the english SAP settings.cab

http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=68235&d=1201815914

and afterwards copy the german mui from this link into the windows folder:

http://rapidshare.com/files/88552483/SAPSettings.exe.0407.mui

As I mentioned, I can't test sap as I have no hands-free in my car.

Have fun!

MasterAndi

03-02-2008, 11:51 AM

It works !!

Installed the English SAP Settings, then copyed the mui file in the windows folder.
A reset is needed for the german language ín the sap settings.

Now my car kit connects and the sap settings programm is in german !!

Time for a new release !

Greetz

Andreas

Lost_in_translation

04-02-2008, 01:11 AM

http://rapidshare.com/files/88961629/LIT_3.08.0204_GER.zip

This should have a working "SAP Einstellungen" - I will replace the link in posting #1 as soon as someone can confirm this :-)

table_top

04-02-2008, 02:40 PM

Does anyone knows, if this ROM supports the bluetooth audio gateway? I would like to hear the tomtom voices by radio. It doesn´t works with my vpa compact gps from vodaphone germany (WM5). Telephone via bluetooth is working.
Does any patch exist for WM5?
Thanks

Lalle

04-02-2008, 10:14 PM

Hello Lit,

looks good so far but i get 2 icons in the programm directory of the "SAP Einstellungen".

Greats
Lalle

Your Rom is the Best Base German one!!!!!

Lost_in_translation

05-02-2008, 05:27 AM

Jupp, I found this and also a bug in the registry settings for the camera.

Btw: Camera 4.02 offers three profiles when I mail the picture:

1.) Upload service (internally camagent)
2.) Send via Email
3.) Send via MMS

The first one seems to be an oem-app which differs between htc and dopod, but I was unable to find out what this agent does at all.

Currently, I can support 2.) and 3.), but 1.) is quite unclear to me. What should this do at all?

Have fun!

kinkyjoe69

05-02-2008, 03:28 PM

I installed the latest version from post #1. (18.01.08)

I noticed that the camera and the voice note button are not mapped correctly. The camera butten I could map manually. But how can I map the voice note and the voice dial. Are there any cabs I have to install, or some reg-settings I could make to get this working?

I also noticed that the Audiomanager-Link under programs is not working for me. It seems that the application tries to start but closes immediately. Any suggestions on that?

joe

kinkyjoe69

05-02-2008, 03:32 PM

1.) Upload service (internally camagent)

Maybe some kind of service which uploads fotos to services like flickr or some foto printing services.

joe

Lost_in_translation

05-02-2008, 03:43 PM

Hi,

the buttons are not mapped, that's right. First, they are not mapped because Dopod chose to do so, and I have tried to stay close to their design. Second: For me, the most annoying thing when handling the device is that I do continuously access the camera when I hold the P3600 in my palm. For someone who is right-handed, the button is ergonomically at the worst position one might choose. Since it is easy to map the camera to button 2, I chose to leave the settings according to my and dopod's preference.

Voicemapping: There is no voiceprogram in the rom. HTC delivers the device with Cyberon Voice commander, and I hear nothing but complaints about this. There is MS-Voice Command, and I like it myself. However, since HTC did not license it, it's not legal to include it in the rom. Cyberon or MS Voice Command come as a simple cab file, and it's easy to install them. So you get your choice.

Regarding the Audio Manager: Audio Manager is not included in the ROM, neither is the Link in Programme included. You have probably installed an english version. Look for MUIs with 409 in their name, and rename them to 407. I have not yet seen a cab for a german Audio Manager.

*****UPDATE*******

3.08.0205 is out, fixing the double symbol for SAP Einstellungen, and fixing the mailfunction in Camera 4.02 when the user selects to send a picture by mail directly. I have not included the "Upload service"-functionality, and also find it curious that HTC and Dopod implement it in totally different ways. If someone can explain to me what the function does in a german version of the P3600, I can invest some work into it.

http://rapidshare.com/files/89349013/LIT_3.08.0205_GER.zip

Have fun!

kinkyjoe69

05-02-2008, 04:05 PM

Thanks for reply. OK, I understand your point of view. No problem to map it by hand. When there is a cab for the voice thing than it's OK for me. Over all your ROM is great. Thanks for that.

Do you have any clue to the audio manager problem I mentioned?

Which method of backup settings and installed applications do you use, when you update your device to a new release? It's annoying to always reinstall everything and apply all the settings.

joe

edit: Forget the audio manager (Wer lesen kann, ist klar im Vorteil!) :-)

Lost_in_translation

05-02-2008, 05:49 PM

Which method of backup settings and installed applications do you use, when you update your device to a new release? It's annoying to always reinstall everything and apply all the settings.

Actually, I have stopped backing the device up before migrating a Rom. I used to do this with Sprite Backup, but found that it will restore some files which are already part of the rom. So I ended up with xyz.exe and xyz(1).exe and so on in the same folder, resulting in decreased storage for no purpose.

Another problem was PIM-backup: After the restore, I found a lot of double-items, especially appointments and contacts, sometimes also mail. One solution was to back the device without PIM-data, but I found that I had problems with Exchange-synchronisation afterwards. Even deleting the partnership and reissuing it did not help.

So, I have become used to a fairly minimalistic setup: I need my pim-data, and I like to have about 5 programs on the device which I can set up fairly fast. The rest is not really important. Reinstalling takes me about 20 minutes for everything I really need.

Concerning the step from 3.08.0118 to 3.08.0205: The differences are small. If you don't need SAP or the mailfunction in Camera 4.02, I recommend that you stay with the old version. SAP can be installed from a cab, and I might also create a cab with the fix for camera 4.02 - there were some registry settings which were not compatible with a german mui.

Have fun!

esackbauer

05-02-2008, 06:30 PM

Which method of backup settings and installed applications do you use, when you update your device to a new release? It's annoying to always reinstall everything and apply all the settings.

I also do not use any backup software. I have all data synced with ActiveSync, and to reinstall the couple of applications, I made an \Install Folder on the storage card. There I put all the .CAB files of the applications I usually have (Tomtom, eWallet, MortPlayer...)
So after flashing I need to tap the .CAB files and I am back in business in 15 Minutes.

kinkyjoe69

05-02-2008, 09:44 PM

angelspawn

05-02-2008, 11:29 PM

Lost_in_translation

05-02-2008, 11:57 PM

Hm, I'll look into this when I get to work tomorrow. At home, I use no office 2007.

Lost_in_translation

06-02-2008, 12:01 AM

Thanks for the suggestions regarding my backup question.

Has anyone already tried the Push-Mail function of Windows Live?

I don't unterstand the dialog "Synchronisierungsplan" everytime I switch "Synchronisierungshäufigkeit" to "Bei Eintreffen" leave the dialog and go back there is "Manuell" again. The settings under "Zeiten" seem also not be saved. But the device seems to use the settings which I've made. It tries to connect and synchronize. Could that be a little bug in LIT? It would be nice to see the actual status in the dialog.

I remember in bepes latest version (I tried 0.79) this dialog was OK. But this version had an awful memory leak and seems not supported anymore. So I switched to LIT.

joe

Hm, I need to understand this fully, since I don't use Live: When you sync with Live, is there another option for these settings, or does Live interface to Activesync so you use the settings for "Zeitplan" in Activesync?

Currently, I use only Exchange-Pushmail, and the settings for "Zeitplan" in Activesync work as desired.

There is one possibility: The version of Live in the rom could be old and buggy. It's the same one that HTC delivered together with the german Hermes-Rom.

an-di

06-02-2008, 12:27 AM

...and I might also create a cab with the fix for camera 4.02 - there were some registry settings which were not compatible with a german mui.

yes! please make a cab for this camera fix!

cu
an-di

FallinHigh

06-02-2008, 09:22 AM

we'll i'm really happy about that, that you work very hard on your rom, but i would be happy if i get an answer for my question about syncing via bluetooth..

does nobody use this function?

Lost_in_translation

06-02-2008, 10:53 AM

Hello Fallinhigh,

I can just say that if set up properly, it works for me.

I have set my PC to "visible" and configured the Windows Mobile device center to sync over bluetooth.

Then I opened BT-settings on the PDA, tapped on "Neues Gerät hinzufügen", selected the PC, entered a Key on both devices, and the BT-assistant listed "ActiveSync" as an available profile on the device.

This is valid for Vista, afair, synching over BT with XP requires the configuration of an incoming serial port in the BT-settings of the PC, but I haven't used this in a long time.

If this does not work, it's not a problem of the rom, but of the PC's setup or the handling, I'm afraid.

Have fun!

esackbauer

06-02-2008, 11:54 AM

we'll i'm really happy about that, that you work very hard on your rom, but i would be happy if i get an answer for my question about syncing via bluetooth..

does nobody use this function?

I do use it and have no problems with Windows Vista. It was quite simple to setup.

Lost_in_translation

06-02-2008, 04:41 PM

yes! please make a cab for this camera fix!

Here's the Camera-fix as a cab: http://rapidshare.com/files/89486334/LIT_Camerafix_3.08.0118.cab

Remember: It is only needed for 3.08.0118/3.08.0204 and below, 3.08.0205 contains the fix.

Have fun!

Lost_in_translation

06-02-2008, 05:38 PM

Hi lostintranslation,
it's a nice ROM, but i have some problem with one note.
I have one note 2007 installed on my workstation but i can not sync my files with the phone. Can you help me?

Hi angelspawn,

I have just tried it: OneNote synchs nicely. Everytime I change a document, AS starts a synchronisation.

When I start OneNote on the PC, I can see the documents under the tab "OneNote Mobile" on the left side.

to be honest, I do remember that I had installed the latest OneNote Mobile by means of the OneNote 2007-configuration. I can not say for sure whether it would work equally good with the version which is included in the rom.

Have fun!

angelspawn

06-02-2008, 08:33 PM

Hi lostintranslation,
thanks for the reply. Is there a way to delete the onenote thats included in the rom?
Cause than i can install it from my workstation perhaps this will help.

Thanks

angelspawn

Lost_in_translation

06-02-2008, 09:39 PM

There is no problem installing the version from the Desktop over the built-in one. I have just cradled the pda, started OneNote 2007 SP1 and selected Extras/Optionen, Mobile. There is a button which installs OneNote via Activesync/WMDC.

Have fun!

b3dh34d

06-02-2008, 10:39 PM

To Lost_in_translation,

thank you much for this ROM! It's fast, it's slim, it's awesome!! I have just decided to go WM6 on my VPA Compact GPS and I don't regret it thanks to your great work. One question remains: will that 8gb SanDisk SDHC MicroSD Card run with this ROM (using the MiniSD adaptor of course)? Without adding any additional drivers? Anybody tried?

Keep up the good work.
CHEERS!

Lost_in_translation

07-02-2008, 01:13 AM

I have not tested it myself, but the driver carries "sdhc" in its name, so it should be fine.

My card is a 2GB, though, and I can not verify it myself.

Have fun!

b3dh34d

07-02-2008, 10:21 AM

anyone tried sdhc with this firmware?
or i might just order that 8gb thing and try it myself :cool:

a few minor things i have noticed in this firmware:

- when working with the "Windows-Standard" theme, the phone screen has the HTC_default background color.

- when working with the "HTC_default" theme, the Comm Manager has the Windows-Standard background color.

- in the dropdown-box where you can choose the sounds, some sounds appear twice (alouette, ding, dogbark).

- the translation "Anrufen" seems a little too long for the Call-Button in the phone screen. Maybe "Wählen" would be better.

but like i said, those are minor issues and i could easily live with them.
just in case you are bored ;)

cheers again.

esackbauer

07-02-2008, 11:33 AM

I am using a 4GB Mini SDHC Card with this ROM, no problems so far.

b3dh34d

07-02-2008, 01:52 PM

Ah, nice!
Thanks for the info, esackbauer.

I'm gonna order that 8gb MicroSDHC-Card today.
I'll keep you posted if it works.

kinkyjoe69

07-02-2008, 05:41 PM

Hm, I need to understand this fully, since I don't use Live: When you sync with Live, is there another option for these settings, or does Live interface to Activesync so you use the settings for "Zeitplan" in Activesync?

I think these settings have nothing to do with active sync.

Live has it's own sync settings. The issue for me is, that the settings you make seem not to be saved. When you come back to the dialog later, the changes are gone. The strange thing is that the device acts like the settings are made. The dialog says the actual setting is "Manuell" but Live tries to connect anyway. It's difficult to explain, it would be easier to show. :confused:

In other words the behavior is like:

You have a dialog with a dropdown list. When you enter the dialog the dropdown list has selected the item "xy" then you select "abc" from the dropdown list and leave the dialog saving your changes. Afterwards you get back to the dialog to check the change and still "xy" is the selected item in the dropdown list, but the device behaves like you selected "abc". :confused:

Joe

b3dh34d

07-02-2008, 10:00 PM

Just figured that changing themes in general doesn't change the phone background (always Htc_default) and the comm manager background (always Windows-Standard). Oh well :)

Lost_in_translation

07-02-2008, 10:33 PM

Just figured that changing themes in general doesn't change the phone background (always Htc_default) and the comm manager background (always Windows-Standard). Oh well :)

Jupp. As long as it would require breaking a signature, I am not going to skin these programs...

b3dh34d

07-02-2008, 10:43 PM

Fair enough!

Kribbl_Markus

08-02-2008, 11:03 AM

First let me say congratulations LIT for creating such a fast, stable and memory-efficient ROM. I appreciate your policy and design goals - although the theme issue just mentioned in some posts before is really challenging this.

Also, I can confirm that your ROM works perfectly with my Transcend 4 GB SDHS memory card.

Now, I have some questions which I was not able to solve even after searching the forum and browsing several posts:

1) there are severeal (HTC) Audio Manager versions around, but I have not found any so far which works - I have just installed the cab (e.g. the one supplied with HTC Home customizer) but when starting the program from the "Programme" Menu, nothing happens. Did anyone find one Audio Manager which works OK? I would appreciate the MP3-header based presenation of the title which also offers a "Genre" view on the music files... Of course I choose the Versions which were ment to run with WM6...

2) which is the *best* Radio ROM to use? I currently run 1.46.00.11 but I have noticed that 1.46.30.11 came with the original DOPOD ROM - so LIT, what ROM do you use with your ROM?

3) With my previous "Original HTC" WM5 ROM, I used Trinityhacks 0.3 to adjust some settings of the registry. I have the slight feeling that registry keys have changed so it is probably not a good thing to do use it with WM6 / the LIT ROM. Has anybody used this with LITs ROM?

4) Different theme for Phone (and also CommMgr): as mentioned above, I appreciate your "signed modules only" clean ROM policy. It seams that your ROM contains the HTC Phone app as the HTC logo is visible at the upper right of the background.
I there any addtl. installable Dialer / Phone app which perfectly adds on/matches your ROM and is mostly visually compatible with the Windows-Default theme? Or is there another way with an add-on theme customizer to change this - right now I would prefer Windows default also for the Dialer Skin!

Thanks so much for your work!

esackbauer

08-02-2008, 11:12 AM

I am using Radio ROM 1.50.08.11 with no problems so far. I find that connection is more stable than 1.46. However this depends also on your mobile provider.

As Dialer I use this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=321605

Lost_in_translation

08-02-2008, 11:54 AM

1) there are severeal (HTC) Audio Manager versions around, but I have not found any so far which works - I have just installed the cab (e.g. the one supplied with HTC Home customizer) but when starting the program from the "Programme" Menu, nothing happens. Did anyone find one Audio Manager which works OK? I would appreciate the MP3-header based presenation of the title which also offers a "Genre" view on the music files... Of course I choose the Versions which were ment to run with WM6...

2) which is the *best* Radio ROM to use? I currently run 1.46.00.11 but I have noticed that 1.46.30.11 came with the original DOPOD ROM - so LIT, what ROM do you use with your ROM?

3) With my previous "Original HTC" WM5 ROM, I used Trinityhacks 0.3 to adjust some settings of the registry. I have the slight feeling that registry keys have changed so it is probably not a good thing to do use it with WM6 / the LIT ROM. Has anybody used this with LITs ROM?

4) Different theme for Phone (and also CommMgr): as mentioned above, I appreciate your "signed modules only" clean ROM policy. It seams that your ROM contains the HTC Phone app as the HTC logo is visible at the upper right of the background.
I there any addtl. installable Dialer / Phone app which perfectly adds on/matches your ROM and is mostly visually compatible with the Windows-Default theme? Or is there another way with an add-on theme customizer to change this - right now I would prefer Windows default also for the Dialer Skin!

Thanks so much for your work!

Hi Markus,

thanks for the feedback. Concerning the Audio Manager: The problem is that Audio Manager will not work without german muis. If you have no german muis, you can rename the english ones from .0409.mui to .0407.mui - it will work with english menues.

I use 1.50.08.11 like esackbauer, it seems to work without problems. Since my usage varies very much, I can not comment on battery consumption. Furthermore, the quality might depend on the provider. My phone operates in the E-Plus-GSM- and 3G-network. I have also used 1.38.00.11, which did work about as well.

Trinity Hacks: I prefer Schaps Advanced configuration tool. It is not Trinity-specific, but the "hacks" are quite standard.

Concerning the dialer: I personally prefer "elegance" by eliasweb, and install a Vista-style theme for the PPC. They match well, the only thing looking different is the comm-manager. I can live with that ;)

Have fun!

Kribbl_Markus

08-02-2008, 07:46 PM

LIT,

thanks for your advice to rename the mui file for Audio Manager - it now works. Question: what tool is the best to translate the text strings within the mui file so I can translate the mui to German? Do I need tools from VC2005 or VC2008?

I also tried Shaps advanced config tool - much more versatile and a very good choice!

Unfortunately, I was not successful in retrieving Elias´ "elegance" dialer - it seems like he (had to) close his threads, forum and remove all downloads and even pictures. As I use the phone function frequently, the light green HTC dialpad is really annoying me while I like the dark-green/turkis Windows default style.

One final observation: in your ROM, the Windows Update function is not available or visible form the "System" view in "Einstellungen". I wonder if that was "by design" and if the windows update function has any value at all - means if there will ever be updates or fixes sent either bei HTC or Microsoft.

Lost_in_translation

08-02-2008, 11:39 PM

Markus,

a MUI is technically a dll which contains only ressources, so you will be fine with any ressource editor like xnresedit.

Concerning Elias' dialer: Bad luck. I don't know about the background, I am just happy that I have the dialer ;)

Windows Update does not seem to offer anything to anyone, so I haven't bothered to find german muis for it. It's even more unlikely for a device which is not offered with WM6 to get any updates to WM6, so there's no loss from this.

Have fun!

b3dh34d

09-02-2008, 04:03 AM

This ROM is close to perfect for my needs. If only the phone screen, the PIN screen and the comm manager wouldn't always stay the same. That's really annoying indeed. Don't get me wrong, I'm really thankful that you made this ROM but I don't see why those screens never change. It could be so beautiful...
Then again, I might just be too much of a rookie for this.

Cheers.

djredtiger

09-02-2008, 09:31 AM

i have two question to LIT,

is it also possible to have a syncing bluetooth connection to my active sync on my pc?

and can every other programm be installed? i am thinking of "spb finance" or "spb mobile shell" or "spb phone suite".

thank you very much for your answers!

b3dh34d

09-02-2008, 12:33 PM

I don't use bluetooth synching but as for the installation of any application (including any Spb application): yes that can easily be done without a problem.

esackbauer

09-02-2008, 02:11 PM

LIT,
Unfortunately, I was not successful in retrieving Elias´ "elegance" dialer - it seems like he (had to) close his threads, forum and remove all downloads and even pictures. As I use the phone function frequently, the light green HTC dialpad is really annoying me while I like the dark-green/turkis Windows default style.

Thanks to Google Cache i retrieved the download links, which are still working:
Sendspace: http://www.sendspace.com/file/djj4s0
Megaupload: http://www.megaupload.com/it/?d=C28KWKUO
RapidShare: http://rapidshare.com/files/52440675/eLiAs_Dialpad3GEleganceU01b.cab.html

Lost_in_translation

09-02-2008, 02:35 PM

Hey, that's a great idea, thanks for the links! :-)

Regarding Bluetooth: I have used BT to synch to a Vistamachine without any problems. One user has reported problems synching with XP, but I know that setting AS over BT on XP is more complicated, as it requires setting up virtual com ports and setting AS to work with this port.

Have fun!

djredtiger

09-02-2008, 07:44 PM

thank you very much for your answers, i think i will try to install it after my exams! hope that everything works then fine.

thank you again!

b3dh34d

10-02-2008, 11:04 PM

I've flashed a couple ROMs this weekend and I have finally returned to yours, because it's the cleanest, most basic and stable ROM there is. So cheers again, LIT. Keep up the good work, I'm counting on you ;)

Regards.

Kribbl_Markus

12-02-2008, 08:00 PM

@esackbauer:
Thanks for the links - I actually downloaded the "elegance" dialer and installed it. To be honest, I did not really like it as it is visually (by means of buttons, background picture) too far apart from the "pure and simple" style maintained by LIT philosophy of a clean rom.

I found my own way out: using SCHAPS advanced configuration tool, I went to the "Phone" settings section and switched "Phone skin" to disabled. Now I get the originally WM6 Professional build-in skin which is in line with my "pure and simple" expectation but which lacks the Video call button. I can live without it as I hardly know anyone with a capable phone using UMTS...

The only ugly dialer skin remaining is the one for entering the phone pin. This is not required too often and so I am thinking of switching it off anyway.

Kribbl_Markus

12-02-2008, 09:12 PM

After migration to WM6 LIT, I deed a deep testing of the Bluetooth functionality and got some surprises compared to my previous WM5 / original HTC GER ROM 1.23.405.2 with Radio 1.46.00.11. In order to rule out any Radio-ROM related problems, I tried the scenarios (after a hard reset) also with Radio ROM 1..46.30.11 and 1.50.08.11 - same problems. So I assume it has something to do with the Bluetooth / SIM Access Profile implementation of WM6 / LIT 3.02.05.

1. Headset connection and voice diversion. I use a Logitech Mobile freedom headsets. When a call comes in and I pick up using the headset button, the call voice / microphone of the headset is used. When I pick up using the green phone key on the Trinity, the Trinitys loudspeaker/microphone is used instead. This is different from previous experience but OK and I think it is a feature, not a bug.

2. SAP (SIM Access Profile) - app does have no impact: regardless the status of the SAP Einstellungen app setting, when I connect to my car bluetooth Kit (BMW 3 series from 11/2006, build-in Bluetooth), the contacts are visible. Switching it on or off does have NO effect on this functionality once the car is connected. Neither does the deactivation of the "Serieller Anschluss" change this.

3. SAP (SIM Access Profile) - both PPC and SIM contacts are visible, but not all contacts. OK, I confess that I have about 1500 contacts replicated to my Trinity, but that worked well under WM5. In WM5, only the contacts in the SIM card were displayed in the BMW iDRIVE System and thats what I was used to also from other phones (i.e. Nokia). As I only have 130 contacts on my SIM card, every contact was diplayed with no exception. Now with LIT WM6, the iDRIVE shows every contact (SIM AND PPC), but (I think due to the large number of contacts) not every contact is transferred. Furthermore, the iDRIVE lists the contacts in Firstname, Lastname ordering scheme which is not very practical, so I was very happy with the previous SIM-contacts only feature.

4. when checking the \Windows directory, there are two config file (explorer tells me they are Shorcuts) for SAP Settings: one spelled "SAPSettings" and the other "SAP Settings" with a space. So maybe the setting are coded into the wrong settings file?

So my question to LIT: where did you get the SAP Setting app from?
#Can you verify the double setting file issue I observed?

b3dh34d

13-02-2008, 12:02 AM

This is to confirm that the sandisk 8gb microsdhc card runs rock solid without any additional drivers (using a kingston minisd adaptor).

Lost_in_translation

13-02-2008, 12:04 AM

Kribbl_Markus

13-02-2008, 10:01 AM

While I was complaining about the BT SIM Access profile (see my previous post), I can at least confirm that LIT 3.02.05 works with Windows XP for Active Sync. Three things might be important to check:

1) Widcomm vs. MS Bluetooth stack issue on Windows XP SP2: as reported in Heise online, on a PC / Laptop which uses the Widcomm driver, the Widcomm stack can be desctructed by the competing MS stack which came as part of SP2. See Heise Mobile to get hands-on instruction how to solve this: http://www.heise.de/mobil/XP-SP2-stoert-installierte-Bluetooth-Hardware--/artikel/51923

2) Limitation on 7 services provided by Bluetooth: with WM devices (especially using WM5), there is a limitation that the Active Sync service has to be provided as one of the first 7 services listed by the BT server on the PC to sync with because the Bluetooth Client on the Trinity can only see the first 7 services offered. It is a good start to disable all other services on the BT server except for the Serial Port Emulation, so nothing can go wrong here.

3) Setting the right Services on the BT Server (the PC/Laptop): Not to mention, it is required to setup a Serial Port on the BT Server and to enable exactly this port (i.e. COM10) in "Connection Settings" in Active Sync.

Good luck!

Kribbl_Markus

13-02-2008, 10:08 AM

Hello Markus,

the SAP Settings.lnk is really just a shortcut, and carries no configuration data. I will have a look at it to clean this up, but there will be no effect on functionality.

As I said before, I do not use any BT-hardware other than a plain BT-dongle in my PC, so unfortunately I can't test the SAP-functionality.

If you are willing to invest some time into this issue, I can give you a rom without SAP, and you might try the different releases of SAP which are available on this forum. I can then include a different release into a new rom.

Have fun!

@LIT: I would be more than happy to test this with a special version of LIT ROM which is open to different versions. I have already asked a friend to send me his Kaiser / Vario III german "SAP Einstellungen" files, but I can test others as well.

Kribbl_Markus

13-02-2008, 01:02 PM

@LIT,

some update on the Bluetooth miracles issue raised earlier:

...
2. SAP (SIM Access Profile) - app does have no impact: regardless the status of the SAP Einstellungen app setting, when I connect to my car bluetooth Kit (BMW 3 series from 11/2006, build-in Bluetooth), the contacts are visible. Switching it on or off does have NO effect on this functionality once the car is connected. Neither does the deactivation of the "Serieller Anschluss" change this.

3. SAP (SIM Access Profile) - both PPC and SIM contacts are visible, but not all contacts. OK, I confess that I have about 1500 contacts replicated to my Trinity, but that worked well under WM5. In WM5, only the contacts in the SIM card were displayed in the BMW iDRIVE System and thats what I was used to also from other phones (i.e. Nokia). As I only have 130 contacts on my SIM card, every contact was diplayed with no exception. Now with LIT WM6, the iDRIVE shows every contact (SIM AND PPC), but (I think due to the large number of contacts) not every contact is transferred. Furthermore, the iDRIVE lists the contacts in Firstname, Lastname ordering scheme which is not very practical, so I was very happy with the previous SIM-contacts only feature.

4. when checking the \Windows directory, there are two config file (explorer tells me they are Shorcuts) for SAP Settings: one spelled "SAPSettings" and the other "SAP Settings" with a space. So maybe the setting are coded into the wrong settings file?
...

Today I replaced the "SAPSetting.exe" and the "SAPSettings.exe.0407.mui" files with files from the T-Mobile MDA Vario III (=Kaiser), keeping my now installed Radio 1.46.30.11 and the LIT 3.08.02.05 ROM (I just copied them over using Active Sync explorer).

Good news: Problem #3 is solved, it works now and behaves like in my previous ROMs: when I press the "Phone contacts lists" function either from my iDrive menu or from the Steering wheel buttons, I only see those contacts stored in the SIM card. So I am happy with this.

BUT:
still, enabling or disabling this function with the SAP Einstellungen App (described in item #2 in the quote above) still has no effect.

I have attached the two Files from the MDA Vario III which I used.

Good luck!

Muvon53

13-02-2008, 09:08 PM

A grate work this ROM! Thx very much!

otto26

15-02-2008, 06:52 AM

Hello,
i need your help please. I can not activate the flash light for the camera.
My Rom Version is LIT_080109, Camer Info 4.02 ( Erst. 26674 ). So i dont know, how the flas light is to activate.
Thank you very much and with best regards, Christian

Lost_in_translation

15-02-2008, 07:58 AM

Hm, does Trinity contain a flashlight? :-O

@markus: I will include these fileversions into the next release, thanks mate. Regarding the problem of SAP always active: Since you need a paired device to use this, it's not an immmediate security concern. However, I am still thinking about this.

Have fun!

Lost_in_translation

17-02-2008, 02:27 PM

Good news: Problem #3 is solved, it works now and behaves like in my previous ROMs: when I press the "Phone contacts lists" function either from my iDrive menu or from the Steering wheel buttons, I only see those contacts stored in the SIM card. So I am happy with this.

Ok, I have included your files into 3.08.0217 and released it. Apart from this, there is nothing new. However, up to now I have no idea about the problem with SAP not stopping according to the setting. I will have a look into this.

Have fun!

Lost_in_translation

18-02-2008, 06:37 PM

080217: SAP Einstellungen replaced with the version from a current production device, as the one I used had some issues.
080218: Corrected a registry entry, enabling camera to send a picture via E-Mail directly from the camera menu. If you have 080217 installed, just set HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\Camera\SendCommand\EMail\Enable to 1

Kribbl_Markus

20-02-2008, 01:23 AM

@LIT,

some update on the Bluetooth miracles issue raised earlier:

Today I replaced the "SAPSetting.exe" and the "SAPSettings.exe.0407.mui" files with files from the T-Mobile MDA Vario III (=Kaiser), keeping my now installed Radio 1.46.30.11 and the LIT 3.08.02.05 ROM (I just copied them over using Active Sync explorer).

Good news: Problem #3 is solved, it works now and behaves like in my previous ROMs: when I press the "Phone contacts lists" function either from my iDrive menu or from the Steering wheel buttons, I only see those contacts stored in the SIM card. So I am happy with this.

BUT:
still, enabling or disabling this function with the SAP Einstellungen App (described in item #2 in the quote above) still has no effect.

I have attached the two Files from the MDA Vario III which I used.

Good luck!

Now, after some days of successfully using my BMW iDRIVE Bluetooth feature, the nasty problem#3 (see my previous posts) came back. When I recalled potential changes to the overall Bluetooth setup, I discovered that in the meantime I had successfully established a ActiveSync connection via Bluetooth with my PC. When I deleted that connection from the list of Bluetooth connections/devices, everything was OK again.

To verify, I did a hard reset, re-installed all software and connections and tested this behaviour with the original version of the LIT ROM (files dated Feb 05) and everything worked OK even when I established the ActiveSync via Bluethooth connection with the PC. Then I just started the SAP Settings app without activating the button and closed it using the "X" - problem #3 was back. Softreset - no change. After deleting the Active Sync connection, everything was fine again.

So bottomline: the change to the MDA Vario III files for the "SAP Settings" Application was not neccessary, no change in "bad behaviour".

Still, the LIT 3.08.0205 ROM "SAP Setting" files have some issues.
@LIT, where did you get them from - were they part of the original DOPOD ROM?

Lost_in_translation

20-02-2008, 06:56 PM

Now, after some days of successfully using my BMW iDRIVE Bluetooth feature, the nasty problem#3 (see my previous posts) came back. When I recalled potential changes to the overall Bluetooth setup, I discovered that in the meantime I had successfully established a ActiveSync connection via Bluetooth with my PC. When I deleted that connection from the list of Bluetooth connections/devices, everything was OK again.

To verify, I did a hard reset, re-installed all software and connections and tested this behaviour with the original version of the LIT ROM (files dated Feb 05) and everything worked OK even when I established the ActiveSync via Bluethooth connection with the PC. Then I just started the SAP Settings app without activating the button and closed it using the "X" - problem #3 was back. Softreset - no change. After deleting the Active Sync connection, everything was fine again.

So bottomline: the change to the MDA Vario III files for the "SAP Settings" Application was not neccessary, no change in "bad behaviour".

Still, the LIT 3.08.0205 ROM "SAP Setting" files have some issues.
@LIT, where did you get them from - were they part of the original DOPOD ROM?

Nope, they were originally from a Hermes production Rom, and now I have used the files which you sent me.

b3dh34d

21-02-2008, 12:29 AM

Cheers to LIT and Markus for their latest efforts! I'm confident you guys can fix this. Keep to it.

Regards.

b3dh34d

24-02-2008, 12:23 AM

I have noticed that when the number I am trying to call is busy, the busy signal always comes through the speaker in the back of the phone. Why is that? Am I doing something wrong here?

b3dh34d

25-02-2008, 10:21 PM

Is it normal that the camera can not zoom? I would have guessed that there was at least some kind of digital zoom...

arndti1981

26-02-2008, 10:56 AM

Hello,

as far as I know, you can only use the zoom function, if you are not using the 2MP. Only with less than 2MP you can use the zoom.

It is a bad thing, and I am looking forward, that someone can offer us an other solution.

I already have tried other HTC-versions, but they didn't work proper.

djredtiger

27-02-2008, 05:02 PM

I have noticed that when the number I am trying to call is busy, the busy signal always comes through the speaker in the back of the phone. Why is that? Am I doing something wrong here?

this is normal, you can replace the sound with a registry hack, so that it keeps quiet, when you are having a busy signal.

b3dh34d

27-02-2008, 10:43 PM

thanks for your replies.

@arndti1981: you are right, the zoom function does not work in 2MP mode only. i can't think of any reasonable explanation for this. it's most definitely a bug. a pretty annoying one indeed.

@djredtiger: i wonder why they designed it like that. i mean why would anyone want the busy signal to come out of the speaker in the first place? if i mute the sound with a registry hack, will it mute any output or just the speaker output?

cheers!

djredtiger

28-02-2008, 10:16 PM

mh, then i would have to ask the guys from htc why they created it that way.

if you put a registry hack then it will never sound again on a busy signal. everything else will still work, you can also replace the tone with a tone that is empty, makes no sound. everything else will still work.

saminegm

29-02-2008, 05:15 PM

I'd like to update to office mobile 6.1 from MS which is able to read *.xml files. But if I try installer tells me that 6.1 is already installed and must be uninstalled first.... but how?

Lost_in_translation

01-03-2008, 12:22 PM

I'd like to update to office mobile 6.1 from MS which is able to read *.xml files. But if I try installer tells me that 6.1 is already installed and must be uninstalled first.... but how?

Actually Office 6.1 is really already installed, so there is no point in reinstalling it. However, I do not know which part of the office should be able to handle pure XML. It's usually the browser which works as an XML-parser, making it possible to look into the data of an XML-file.

The document formats of Office 2007 (which can be used with OM 6.1) are based on XML, however Office 2007 will only read and write a very specific format. So, an XML-parser might be able to display the raw data in an Office 2007-document, but Word 2007 i.e. will not be able to read just each and any XML-file.

Maybe we misunderstand each other?

Have fun!

esackbauer

01-03-2008, 12:43 PM

I'd like to update to office mobile 6.1 from MS which is able to read *.xml files. But if I try installer tells me that 6.1 is already installed and must be uninstalled first.... but how?

Do you mean the new office formats? these are xml based, but the suffixes are .docx, .xlsx and not .xml
However as 6.1 is already installed you should be able to open these files.

You could possibly open any .xml file with notepad or register the .xml suffix with Word Mobile.

saminegm

01-03-2008, 05:46 PM

Do you mean the new office formats? these are xml based, but the suffixes are .docx, .xlsx and not .xml
However as 6.1 is already installed you should be able to open these files.

You could possibly open any .xml file with notepad or register the .xml suffix with Word Mobile.

Thanks for the answers! Well... Word and PP 2007 do have the ability to write xml files with .xml extensions (Just try "Save as...") but I dont mind as long as the installed Version in the ROM is the most recent one!

cybergun

22-03-2008, 03:30 PM

hallo,

Habe grade versucht das LIT auf mein trinity zu machen aber es kam folgende fehler meldung

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/4989/fehlertrinitylj4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

was kann ich da machen ?

jetzt klappt zwar die verbindung aber irgendwie kriege ich bei allem was ich flashen will diese meldung

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/445/fehlertrinityif9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

get_it_on_rom

22-03-2008, 07:45 PM

You probably have an old bootloader:

Have a look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=361036

and have a look at the first post of this thread

get_it_on_rom

23-03-2008, 06:20 PM

@lost-in-translation

Will there be any update in the near future (e.g. based on WM 6.1)? Is there a solution for the BT-SAP problem?

Thanks for your work on this project. I like the idea of a small and clean rom.

MrFreeze

28-03-2008, 02:26 AM

wo bekomme ich XT9 (oder eT9 weiss nicht wie es heisst) her das was bei bepe mit drinn ist?

Lost_in_translation

28-03-2008, 05:00 PM

Hi,

there will be a 6.1-version as soon as I get my hands on an original WM6.1 from HTC, ie from a TyTn II, Touch xyz or whatever.

I use only original HTC-files, self-made translations which are not signed with either HTCs own certificate or signed by a mobile-2-market-certificate would require that I change the standard security policy which checks for the fileintegrity.

If anyone can point me to a genuine WM6.1-Rom from HTC for any other device, I will be more than happy to start work on this. I need the rom to extract the original german language files as packages.

@cybergun: Concerning the "your image is corrupt"-error: You have obviously not installed HSPL from Olipro before you tried to flash the rom. HSPL is available in the thread concerning roms and other useful software at the top.

@get_it_on_rom: I can not diagnose the BT-SAP-problem, since I have no BT-hardware in my car. BT is bad for device security ;-)

Have fun!