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projectdarkside(1)
28-12-2007, 08:07 AM
Well i heard of this software made by the company "SPBsoftware"

And i'm prepared to spend money for top quality applications but, as I was reading on another site-that were offering a "trial version"- said meant for PPC WM6?

I hope that it would work, cause the layout's are so simplistic, organized, and unique:D

+Im to scared to try the XM6(WM6?) Rom available, cause the guys post is filled with so many warnings- that you could brick your dvice, that its itimidating to even begin:(

So the question is will downloading and installing these SPB programs, work on the default WM5 OS of the 8125 Wizard?

-BTW if these programs are compatible with WM5, should I install/Add/Load it onto my device's System memory?, or My mini sd card?

Any, and all post greatly appreciated
Thanks!

Myrddin Wyllt
28-12-2007, 06:04 PM
It's pretty unlikely that you'll brick your phone by trying software from a more-or-less legitimate software developer. Try it. The worst thing likely to happen is you'll have to go through some kind of rigamarole to uninstall the thing later, if it doesn't work properly.

If you don't feel comfortable with doing things like making registry entry changes, or digging around in system files, then you probably should stick to things that are clearly marked "Works on <<your system/phone/service>>."

As far as loading to system vs. SD, the general rule of thumb is, if you run the program all the time (such as skinning programs and today plug-ins, like SPB is known for) then it should be in system memory. The only software that you should load to SD are things you run sparingly and don't need constant access to. Accessing SD memory is pretty slow on these devices, and it'll seriously affect operability if you load "always run" or "mostly always run" programs from SD.

Lastly, loading new ROMs is a complex and easily flubbed process, from what I've read, and I share your disinterest in bricking an expensive piece of hardware. Frankly, I suspect that the main reason HTC never bothered to upgrade the 8125 to WM6 is because it actually can't handle it, from a hardware standpoint. Every person who has loaded a cooked ROM to a Wizard seems to have reported bugs, errors, and other problems, even with cleanly performed installations. I haven't seen nearly as much complaint from WM5 users.

So, strip down your installation, get rid of the junk, even over-clock the processor if you want (mine runs just fine at around 247MHz), but for my part, I would recommend against loading WM6 on a Wizard, purely based on stability of the hardware/software working in tandem.

<rant>After all, there's a reason why you can't run Windows Vista on an old 486 machine (even if it has enough memory, etc.), and that's because the new software depends heavily upon newer hardware designs to run more complex algorithms and lean hard on those math co-processors (read: hide their bloat and junk from end-users). Run new software on an old machine, and it bogs down and errors out. Again, I don't recommend this, although others probably will.</rant>
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Myrddin Wyllt
28-12-2007, 06:18 PM
Take a look at Wisbar Advance version 2.x, too. It was written for WM5, and won't crash your phone. WA version 3 looks nice too, though I haven't got experience first-hand with it. This assumes the reason you're looking at SPB is for skinning, of course.

As far as customizing your today screen goes, I'd also recommend rlToday. It's easily designed using basic XML, and was written for WM5, too. Can heavily incorporate graphics and so forth.

akashastrega
28-12-2007, 11:10 PM
Lastly, loading new ROMs is a complex and easily flubbed process, from what I've read, and I share your disinterest in bricking an expensive piece of hardware. Frankly, I suspect that the main reason HTC never bothered to upgrade the 8125 to WM6 is because it actually can't handle it, from a hardware standpoint. Every person who has loaded a cooked ROM to a Wizard seems to have reported bugs, errors, and other problems, even with cleanly performed installations. I haven't seen nearly as much complaint from WM5 users.

So, strip down your installation, get rid of the junk, even over-clock the processor if you want (mine runs just fine at around 247MHz), but for my part, I would recommend against loading WM6 on a Wizard, purely based on stability of the hardware/software working in tandem.

<rant>After all, there's a reason why you can't run Windows Vista on an old 486 machine (even if Really???it has enough memory, etc.), and that's because the new software depends heavily upon newer hardware designs to run more complex algorithms and lean hard on those math co-processors (read: hide their bloat and junk from end-users). Run new software on an old machine, and it bogs down and errors out. Again, I don't recommend this, although others probably will.</rant>
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Really...is that so???:rolleyes:
I've run WM6 on my wizard for quite a bit of time with no bugs or issues of any kind. My rom is very stable, fast and quite dependable...and a helluva lot better than Tmo's stock rom which I had to reboot pretty much daily. My Wizard runs my WM6 rom with no problems at all.

And always learn everything you can about your device first...yes you can damage it, but only if you are foolish enough to not READ READ READ the stickies and wiki first. Unlocking your device and upgrading it is actually pretty easy and painless. As for running SPB...SPB can run on both WM5 and WM6...and uninstalling is a breeze.

Wizards are actually VERY HARD to break. I know, I've tried. Mine has been dropped, rained on, upgraded and downgraded...it wasn't until the usb gave out mid rom flash that it finally gave up the ghost. I replaced it and immediately began abusing the new one. It might as well be called Timex, because the damned thing takes a lickin' and keeps on tickin'!!!!