Hateful XT9!!!

[boogiecornejo]

has anyone found a solution to turn off XT9?being from the philippines i use a different language and XT9 just gets in the way of typing in words.i am really so dissapointed that this device has no built in way to disable this annoyance!

[pp18]

what if displaying multiplay and revert to the traditional soft keyboard? this can be done from settings of input method

[feaps]

Open a blank document or try creating a new emai8l. When you have the hardware keyboard active, press and hold the key */XT9. A menu will pop. Select ABC and then XT9 will be disabled.

-Feaps

[boogiecornejo]

Open a blank document or try creating a new emai8l. When you have the hardware keyboard active, press and hold the key */XT9. A menu will pop. Select ABC and then XT9 will be disabled.

-Feaps

yeah i know about this but it still reverts back to xt9 after use.what i need is a fix to completely disable xt9 forever.

[duttythroy]

yeah i know about this but it still reverts back to xt9 after use.what i need is a fix to completely disable xt9 forever.

try this

http://forum.xda-developers.com/images/attach/cab.gifduttythroy Disable xt9.cab (http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=63520&d=1198925369)

[boogiecornejo]

try this

http://forum.xda-developers.com/images/attach/cab.gifduttythroy Disable xt9.cab (http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=63520&d=1198925369)

tried this.all it did to my keys was to put numbers in by default.

i hope someone who knows how to play around with registry keys can come up with a solution...

[boogiecornejo]

i noticed that there is an options button for xt9 but it doesnt seem to do anything?even with auto append and auto substitution unchecked it still auto appends and auto substitutes words.i wonder if this is just a bug coz i dont think it controls any of the xt9s functions.anyone with ideas?i tried all types of registry mods that i found on the forums but nothing seems to work!!!help!!

[boogiecornejo]

i wrote to htc about this but they havent answered yet. what bugs me also is that in my dash(upgraded to WM6) i was able to disable xt9 permanently without any trouble. why isnt it the same on the touch dual?

[boogiecornejo]

anyone have any ideas?

[gogol]

Very easy :)

Use external keyboard application like Resco Keyboard or PocketCM Keyboard.

No more XT9 !

[boogiecornejo]

Very easy :)

Use external keyboard application like Resco Keyboard or PocketCM Keyboard.

No more XT9 !

but i prefer to use the hardware keyboard when texting.i like the tactile feel

[Ninja_Gundam]

tried this.all it did to my keys was to put numbers in by default.

i hope someone who knows how to play around with registry keys can come up with a solution...

Hello, same problems here...
how to revert back before (duttythroy cab) to have not numbers with keyphone?

I've look here but seem to have no effect...

KLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Layouts\e0010 409
<parm name="Layout Text" value="COMP IME" datatype="string" /><parm name="Ime File" value="compime.dll" datatype="string" />


Chooo

[DaVince]

Hi Kabayan.. also from the Philippines here. XT9 really is a pain.. the only solution I found was to use pcm keyboard.. rendering the hw keypad useless.

[dabs]

Language is irrelevent, most fields default to that sodding XT9, its getting reallly tedious to set input method to 'abc' every single time I want to compose a sms...

I played around with SIP reg settings but the device did not boot on next soft reset (hung on HTC flash intro) and required a hard reboot - so I am not eager to fool around further.

[boogiecornejo]

Hi Kabayan.. also from the Philippines here. XT9 really is a pain.. the only solution I found was to use pcm keyboard.. rendering the hw keypad useless.

funny coz i bought this device thinking that id get the best of both worlds,a pocket pc and the old way of texting messages(i sort of missed that being a ppc user for the past 3 years),but xt9 has really annoyed the shayt out of me so i just put this otherwise sweet little baby up for sale.

[Joost39]

I want to get rid of it too......any clever programmer here plz?

[boogiecornejo]

look see.i wrote HTC and this is what the stupid bas**rds wrote me.i waited 2 long weeks for this reply!

Dear Boogie,
Thank you for contacting hTC International.

With reference to your inquiry, kindly informed that it is default setting. Thank you for your continuous support of our products and services. Should you require further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us again.

We look forward to be of service to you again.

Best Regards,
Gary Guo
Customer Service Executive
HTC Corporation
Customer Service Hotline (Singapore): 1800 238 7788
Website: www.asia.htc.com


do they think im that stupid not to know that it was the default!!!???

[looka]

I was playing with registry and I found if you change DWORD value you might find something!

Here is the place in registry:

\HKLM\Software\Tegic\eT9\

[DaVince]

look see.i wrote HTC and this is what the stupid bas**rds wrote me.i waited 2 long weeks for this reply!

Dear Boogie,
Thank you for contacting hTC International.

With reference to your inquiry, kindly informed that it is default setting. Thank you for your continuous support of our products and services. Should you require further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us again.

We look forward to be of service to you again.

Best Regards,
Gary Guo
Customer Service Executive
HTC Corporation
Customer Service Hotline (Singapore): 1800 238 7788
Website: www.asia.htc.com


do they think im that stupid not to know that it was the default!!!???

LOL!! :D
That actually came from a Customer Service Executive?!

[DaVince]

I was playing with registry and I found if you change DWORD value you might find something!

Here is the place in registry:

\HKLM\Software\Tegic\eT9\

Would anybody be kind enough to try if changing these values would work? :)

[boogiecornejo]

I was playing with registry and I found if you change DWORD value you might find something!

Here is the place in registry:

\HKLM\Software\Tegic\eT9\

ive tried changing all sorts of registry values in this folder but no success whatsoever.

i think our best bet to get rid of xt9 is to wait for a custom ROM without it.

[arnonrgo]

I would think that changing the keys under

HKLM\software\tegic\eT9\Sip\DefaultInputModule from 1 to 2
HKLM\software\tegic\eT9\IME\DefaultInputModule from 1 to 2

would set the regular abc as default rather than the et9
(I didn't try that since personally I think the XT9 is great.. :))

[boogiecornejo]

I would think that changing the keys under

HKLM\software\tegic\eT9\Sip\DefaultInputModule from 1 to 2
HKLM\software\tegic\eT9\IME\DefaultInputModule from 1 to 2

would set the regular abc as default rather than the et9
(I didn't try that since personally I think the XT9 is great.. :))


tried this.didnt work...

[DaVince]

Im getting used to pressing and holding the * before typing.. a complete waste of 2-3 seconds everytime I send an SMS. And unfortunately, all the good ROM cookers and developers here does not use a Niki so I guess a solution of using a cooked ROM is still far ahead.

[Joost39]

Its a nice phone anyways, and this is the only "error" in the phone....

[Ninja_Gundam]

Maybe isnt a bug of the Niki coz i have an imate ultimate 8150 wm6 x79 same bug... :(( Damn!

Chooo

[primenall]

Well here is how to turn it off at least for the old default WM5/6 keyboard, doesn't work on the Touch keyboard

It's great for me as I use the WM5/6 keyboard as my default personally rather than the Touch keyboard, I like how little of the screen it covers and plus I can go so fast with my stylus.

Go to HKLM\SOFTWARE\Tegic\eT9\ and change the key "XT9SupportMSSip" from value "1" to "0"

[DaVince]

That's nice, but the turning off of XT9 completely on the slide out keypad will be the one to really make me happy.

[georo]

I found this and is working on my Touch. Give a try any way.


[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Layouts\e0010409]
"Layout Text"=COMP IME
"Ime File"=compime.dll

[mle86]

this sort of works... it disables the xt9, but on the hardware keyboard, each time you tap a key, it writes the character, so you can only type half the characters (on the 20 key version) :(

--- edit ---

My guess is that we need a modified et9ime.dll, but i don't have the skills to do such a thing...

[DaVince]

I found this and is working on my Touch. Give a try any way.


[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Layouts\e0010409]
"Layout Text"=COMP IME
"Ime File"=compime.dll
This doesn't work, it does pretty much the same thing as the disable xT9 cabs out there.

Anybody tried this? Doesn't work on mine, maybe it does on yours?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1828588&postcount=22

[mean-machine]

This is the workaround for my Hermes when Schaps included XT9 in his beta 2 ROM.
You need to edit the registry:
1. HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software delete Tegic folder
2. HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID delete 2 folders beginning with:
{198D503A-EFFE-....}
{62B00599-25D2-....}

First option switches it off.
Second one deletes it from SIP list

!!! I don't have your phone and therefore I cannot confirm whether in option 2 you have the same folders. I don't remember what was in them. But possibly it was something named Tegic.
Just use FIND option in a registry editor and you'll find it.

Enjoy

[DaVince]

So far none of the suggestions here work. THe suggestions found here completely disables alphabetical input and only allows numeric input.

Best thing I could suggest right now is to use Pocket CM (Contacts not keyboard). The SMS feature of PCM defaults to ABC rather than XT9. I suggest using 0.15, the later versions crashes often.

[jvieira]

I'm kinda sure this is not what most of you want, but I installed a program called POCKETCM. It kinda manages contacts and sms! With it I can write SMS without the predefenition of XT9 ;)

[snudel]

this will sound kind of strange to you:
i am getting used to xt9. ;)

[Thyraz]

Yeah, if u put some time in adding your words and names
this is by far the fastest input method beside a real querty keyboard. ;)

[SidTheMighty]

Hi Guys,

some of yuo will hate me for this:
My new XDA Star (O2 branded Nike) comes with abc mode as standard for the HW-keyboard in all windows. And now the really funny thing: I am really searching to get xt9 as standard since it works very well for german. Hence we have the same problem and perhaps some comparing of reg-files will bring a soultion :cool:

[Thyraz]

that Is not true. Actionscreen --> sms --> highlight the message field and the Star will also change to XT9. Should be exactly the same as on the Touch dual

[DaVince]

Hi Guys,

some of yuo will hate me for this:
My new XDA Star (O2 branded Nike) comes with abc mode as standard for the HW-keyboard in all windows. And now the really funny thing: I am really searching to get xt9 as standard since it works very well for german. Hence we have the same problem and perhaps some comparing of reg-files will bring a soultion :cool:

Forgive me, but i don't believe you. Double check it again, it defaults to abc on some textboxes like name entry, website entry, etc. But on SMS and everything else that you can type a paragraph into, defaults to XT9.

If you really have it the other way around, I wish we could just trade our handsets... LOL :D

[SidTheMighty]

Hm,

you are right: For textboxes like concern or address it defaults to abc, for SMS it defaults to xt9.
Sorry for giving hope :-/.

But nevertheless this could be interesting:

In my registry I found the following key:
HKLM\software\tegic\eT9\IME\TextInputMode

This Key influences the default behaviour for creating Notes (not SMS or contact unfortunately) 0:abc 1:xT9

I am pretty sure that there is a similar Entry for SMS contacts and all others as well, the question is just which one :confused:

[great]

i just bought the touch dual with the Greek Rom (although i use the English settings) and i found completely stupid the fact that you cannot change the xt9 default setting or even disabled it completely!!!
I also asked the Greek HTC support team for a solution but no one has replied yet although reading from your replies there is nothing that we can do. Also none of the registry entries did the trick

Why on earth you cannot change the setting is a complete mystery!!

[zooglester]

I'm having the same problem. Hopefully when Niki project (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=355397) is done, Tom will remove the xt9

[nick911]

Anybody found a soluion ?????????

[boogiecornejo]

lets all ask tom for this...maybe he'll be more convinced its worth his effort if a lot of people personally request it of him...

[great]

actually HTC should be convinced and find out a way o disable this piece of crap!

[snudel]

start using it. after a while it is not too bad. its faster than abc mode.

[kane81]

This fixed the tx9 thing for me - english version

found it somewhere around this site

[DaVince]

This fixed the tx9 thing for me - english version

found it somewhere around this site

Are you using a touch dual? cause this might be the same cab that totally disables not only the xT9, but also disables typing letters for the touch dual!

[kane81]

yep, using touch dual / should say my girlfriend is....

I know numbers defiently work, and I thought letters did.


Pretty sure they did.

[great]

kane81, can you please confirm clearly that this disables the xT9 and all the letters and numbers are correctly displayed when you press the key on the hardware keyboard using the "ABC" method.
The previous cab that i found only displayed the first letter of the key (from ABC key it only displayed the A)

Can anyone else confirm that this works ?

[medowance]

Hmmm diable xt9 by the cab file... once install, and if cannot work, how do I remove it??

[tacia]

Thank you for your inquiry regarding disabling XT9 on your HTC Touch Dual device.


you can disable XT9 on your device by:



1 - Click on Start and then Settings
2 - On the Personal tab, click on Input
3 - Select Touch Keyboard on the Input method drop down list
4 - Click on Options
5 - Click on XT9 Settings
6 - Uncheck all the options

[tacia]

They're not very helpful when I said the steps didn't really do anything.

I am sorry to hear that the previous troubleshooting steps did not resolve the problem. Unfortunately, that is the only procedure available for disabling XT9. What you are encountering is the hard coded predictive spelling feature of the Touch series. It was included to make typing as fast as possible. With some work and some patience, it will hopefully improve your typing experience.


I hope somebody will finally know how to eliminate XT9
Cheers

[kane81]

^^ above solution never worked for me!

the cab one did.

sorry I havent seen my wife to check,will let you guys know friday night when I see if if all the buttons work. but I'm pretty sure they do.


if worse comes to worse you could always make a backup image and restore if the cab doesnt work.

or you could just "restore" the system defaults from the rom.

[Jazzamataz]

Try this, i removed it on my G900 and works perfect. I don't think it works exactly the same for you, but at least you have some direction to go in.

Remove key {73AB106C-A726-484B-b610-be3e1cf39821} from HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT

Remove [HKLM\Software\Tegic] Key

Delete the \windows\programs\tegic folder

Edit [HKLM\system\currentcontrolset\control\layouts\e001 0409]

Ime File : \windows\xt9ime.dll change to Ime File :\windows\compime.dll

and

Layout Text : XT9 IME change to Layout Text : COMP IME

Edit [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sip]
Change the DWORD TurnOffAutoDeploy from 1 to 0.

REBOOT!

[dabs]

Looks like a few things are in different places on the niki:

Remove key {73AB106C-A726-484B-b610-be3e1cf39821} from HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT
Not present

Delete the \windows\programs\tegic folder
Not there

Ime File : \windows\xt9ime.dll change to Ime File :\windows\compime.dll
Not there

Can we grab that ime from anywhere?

[great]

On mine HTC Touch Dual with Greek rom:

"Remove key {73AB106C-A726-484B-b610-be3e1cf39821} from HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT" it doesnt exist

"Ime File : \windows\xt9ime.dll change to Ime File :\windows\compime.dll", instead of xT9 IME i have "eT9 IME"
Same with the text i have eT9 IME

i have the compime.dll on my windows directory but i dont have the "TurnOffAutoDeploy" key

[kane81]

Ok, so about what that cab does.

I can confirm that the key pad still works... however...

I can only get the primary keys to work... ie <ALT> doesnt seem to work.

so you get all your numbers 1234567890, Return ... and the letters on the left and right side.

not sure why <ALT> doesnt work....

my wife uses the stylus all the time so it isnt a big deal. turning off XT9 was worth losing the letter typing on the key pad....

[nitro7]

I'v tested the cab on my touch dual with german rom
the cab disables letter typing on the hardware keypad (only numbers possible)
The screen keypad layout with @.?, / abc / def / etc. was also disabled.

unfortunately, not very useful for me, but at least, the xt9 was disabled, too :D

by the way, when deleting the "disable xt9" in Settings/Remove programs, the changes will be undone and xt9 is back :cool:

[great]

so basically tha .cab is not working.
anyone got lucky finding the correct reg entried for htc dual from these mentioned by Jazzamataz ?

[boogiecornejo]

its funny that after such a long time there is still no solution to this...

[marciton]

Ok my main issue :
I use an English touch dual , but I often write in French ...
I want use my English keyboard with XT9 with a French dictionary ... ?
it's possible ?

[DaVince]

its funny that after such a long time there is still no solution to this...
I guess there really isn't any for now.
It looks like it isn't just mere editing of the registry, we may need a certain different dll that will handle the keypad of the Niki. Much like a different keypad driver.. or if there is anyone knowlegeable enough to hex edit the current dll to default to abc instead of xT9.

Unfortunately, the hardcore developers aren't using a Niki. :(

[joaosousa]

Same problem here... can't disable xt9 in sms.....
:(

[boogiecornejo]

i actually dont know how it happened but ive been using Vito sms chat the past few days and xT9 isnt the default input method(even with the hardware KB) w/c makes me so very happy.though there are certain shortcomings to this app, i think its worth it in terms of getting rid of xT9...

[great]

this is very interesting!
what do you mean shortcomings ?
Do i have to use the vito sms chat all the time in order to send an SMS without the xT9 or i can use the normal one ?

[boogiecornejo]

this is very interesting!
what do you mean shortcomings ?
Do i have to use the vito sms chat all the time in order to send an SMS without the xT9 or i can use the normal one ?

yes you have to use it all the time...

about the shortcomings, 1stly you cant scroll thru the msgs using dpad. 2ndly when replying to a msg you need to touch the screen to start typing. 3rdly its so much harder to put contacts into the "to" field coz it doesnt have the predictive capabilities of the built in sms app. there are several other things that need refining in this app but as i said overall i prefer to use it now coz it got rid of xT9!

[tacia]

Hi you guys, I might have found something from HTC website to kill XT9.
I haven't tried it yet, coz mu hubby still have the phone with him. So I don't know whether it would work or not. Cheers.

[DaVince]

I confirm it works! Thanks tacia! :D

[tacia]

Really? That's good for you then, Glad to help :) Still waiting for my hubby's phone so I can give it a try myself. Thanks for your update hehehe..

[DaVince]

Yeah, I am now using the keypad again. :) The only drawback is that I've already come to got used to using PCM keyboard.. haha..

I don't have access to HTC -eClub of HTC asia, but I can access eClub of the international site, but it doesnt have the patch there. Good thing you uploaded the cab file here. So I thank you again. :D

[who_else]

I just installed it and, believe it or not, it works!

:-)

we

[tacia]

I finally tried it myself and it works! :) Finally... phew.. :D

[ronnylaborada]

Hi you guys, I might have found something from HTC website to kill XT9.
I haven't tried it yet, coz mu hubby still have the phone with him. So I don't know whether it would work or not. Cheers.

It worked! Thanks Bro!

[marciton]

I don't understand the usage of this ...
the main issue with XT9 it's the impossibility to choose the language of the dictionary you want use ...
for me I write 50% sms/e-mail in French and 50% sms/e-mail in English
and I've an English keyboard

[crocmaster2008]

After trying to disable the xt9 my Asus P750 now does only write numbers on the hardware keyboard, no letters at all only with the virtual keyboard.

The registry entries I modiefied are this:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Tegic\eT9

"ResetDB"=0
"DefaultLanguage"=109
"XT9SupportOtherSIP"=1
"InstallFolder"="\\Windows"
"AvailableLanguages"="0109"
"MultitapWordCompletion"=0
"WordCompletion"=1
"AutoSubstitution"=1
"AutoAppend"=1
"Prediction"=0
"SpellCorrectionMode"=0
"CarrierDefaultTextMode"=0

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Tegic\eT9\IME
CarrierDefaultTextMode=0
DefaultInputModule= 1
KeyboadLayout=1
TextInputMode=0

Could somebody please post the original values, so that I can try to revert the entries I made.

please help!
crocmaster2008

[cbreze]

Open a blank document or try creating a new emai8l. When you have the hardware keyboard active, press and hold the key */XT9. A menu will pop. Select ABC and then XT9 will be disabled.

-Feaps

It doesn't stay disabled tho. Seems to default back whenever. I used to hate xt9 to the max, but I've been getting used to it since I can't seem to get rid of it anyway. Don't know why that selection doesn't hold. It was that way on my nike and now my neon is same way.

EDIT: @tacia, Thanks for the link to the cab file. I tried as others to get the hang of xt9 and found it to just be to frustrating. I know some peeps love it, I'm just not one of those. This is way better. btw it's a neon I have and it works great. I wish someone would come up with a cab for the keypad lite to be adjustable for longer on time. I'm not comfortable fooling with the registry settings yet.

EDIT#2: I think I read previously a post that said the windows live search function box when typed in using the hard kpad would produce only numbers. Well, I can verify that mine is that way also. I am happily using my kpad with no xt9 sudden default, but this is a def bug. Using the virtual kpad is o.k. tho. Not that big a deal. The trade off is def worth it IMHO.

[Zoltair Wright]

I extracted the cab, and it only seems to really change one registry entry:

<wap-provisioningdoc>
<characteristic type="Registry">
<characteristic type="HKLM\SOFTWARE\Tegic\eT9\IME" translation="filesystem" >
<parm name="CarrierDefaultTextMode" datatype="integer" value="0" />
</characteristic>
</characteristic>
</wap-provisioningdoc>

I stumbled on another poster who found the same thing (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2304326&postcount=43):



This set default ABC mode in XT9:
HKLM\SOFTWARE\Tegic\eT9\IME
CarrierDefaultTextMode=dword:0
(0 for ABC / 1 for XT9)

So I think maybe that's the only edit you have to make to change from xT9 to ABC mode. I just thought I'd mention it if somebody doesn't want to install the CAB file.