HTC Touch Cruise Available Now in UK

[reyjabs]

http://www.in2mobiles.co.uk/htc-touch-cruise-p30853.html

[badaccent]

The above link tries to show your shopping cart that does not exist anymore.

The correct link is: http://www.in2mobiles.co.uk/htc-touch-cruise-p30853.html

The price (£373.64 inc vat) is not too shabby. That would be about 508€. I will pay 529€ at Amazon.de.

[ianl8888]

The specifications listed show ONLY 2100Mhz for UMTS.

Polaris is supposed to be tri-band here.

Perhaps the retailer has mis-listed it, perhaps it's a crippled device batch.

I really dislike this "frigging around"

[ianl8888]

The specifications listed show ONLY 2100Mhz for UMTS.

Polaris is supposed to be tri-band here.

Perhaps the retailer has mis-listed it, perhaps it's a crippled device batch.

I really dislike this "frigging around"

Now Expansys, UK has altered its spec list to show 2100Mhz ONLY for UMTS.

Could people who have already purchased their unit please comment on this - it is an extremely important question: Polaris was listed as tri-band for UMTS but we are now seeing UK retailers deliberately quoting only 1 band

[andrewpmoore]

The website says pre-order, stock due 11th Jan, but also in stock?

Has anyone phoned them up to check if they really are in stock?

Maybe their shopping cart software requires them to show as in-stock for people to be able to order?

[JulianL]

The website says pre-order, stock due 11th Jan, but also in stock?

Has anyone phoned them up to check if they really are in stock?

Maybe their shopping cart software requires them to show as in-stock for people to be able to order?

That's odd. Are you definitely talking about expansys? I went to the site just now (http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=159608&sbadd=159608) and got:
<Begin excerpt from web site>
Handset Only Price: £389.95 (331.87 exc.)

Discounts available for orders of 5 units or more - call +44 (0)161 868 0868

Availability: Due Friday 18th January

If you order this product before 5pm today, UK customers can expect shipment in 15 working days. Add your email address to the box at the bottom to receive an alert message when we get stock.
<End excerpt from web site>

If it's not expansys then which site is it because that's a week earlier the 18th Jan so you've got my attention here.

Edit: Oops. Sorry. Stupid me! I see the initial discussion and just went to in2mobiles.co.uk and now see exactly what you're talking about.

- Julian

[andrewpmoore]

Just confirmed they are not expecting them until 11th Jan even though it says they are in stock.

[JulianL]

Just confirmed they are not expecting them until 11th Jan even though it says they are in stock.

I just called in2mobiles to check a few things. Here is the latest from 5 mins ago:

1) The expected in-stock date is now Jan 14th. The web site hasn't caught up with this yet.

2) Devicewire.co.uk do a good job of explicitly calling out a 2 year warranty (but are also a bit naughty about implying that you won't get this elswhere). This is the main reason I called in2mobiles to see if they also offered the 2 year warranty. In case anyone else was wondering, in2mobiles also get their devices via approved UK HTC sources and as such also carry the full 2 year HTC manufacturer's warranty.

3) While I had someone on the phone I tried to clarify why the spec for the 3G stuff was getting ammended from being tri-band down to only 2100 MHz on some sites (e.g. in2mobiles and Expansys) and whether the UK HTC was going to be tri-band 3G. The guy I spoke to didn't know this and said that the tech guy who might be able to help wouldn't be back until next Thu so I have no more info on this but I did ask!

- Julian

[ianl8888]

I just called in2mobiles to check a few things. Here is the latest from 5 mins ago:


3) While I had someone on the phone I tried to clarify why the spec for the 3G stuff was getting ammended from being tri-band down to only 2100 MHz on some sites (e.g. in2mobiles and Expansys) and whether the UK HTC was going to be tri-band 3G. The guy I spoke to didn't know this and said that the tech guy who might be able to help wouldn't be back until next Thu so I have no more info on this but I did ask!

- Julian

JulianL

Thank you for the reply.

This tri-band or not is a critical question and does need a reliable answer for retail stock yet to surface for end-user purchase.

Again, your reply is much appreciated.

[waqarz]

Before buying the device, the most reliable word for any product comes from the manufacturer, and its quite clear from the specifications on the European HTC site that its tri-band. It’s superfluous to provide the links, but anyway:

http://www.europe.htc.com/en/products/htctouchcruise.html
http://www.europe.htc.com/z/pdf/products/HTC_Touch_Cruise_DLF_EN.pdf
http://www.europe.htc.com/z/pdf/products/HTC_Touch_Cruise_CH_EN.pdf
http://www.europe.htc.com/z/pdf/products/HTC_Touch_Cruise_PS_EN.pdf

If you follow the official links given for vendors in UK, following also list the tri-band UMTS capability correctly:

http://www.devicewire.co.uk/HTC-Touch-Cruise
http://www.easydevices.co.uk/pp/PDA/HTC/HTC_TOUCH_CRUISE.html
http://www.inkino.co.uk/zen/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=2112

etc.

The confusion is at expansys, where on the left hand side under Description/Features it says 3G/HSDPA Tri-Band, and on right hand side under Technical Details it says UMTS 2100MHz for Europe, both lines even contradiction each other:

http://www.expansys.com/d.aspx?i=160076

Given a plethora of information, it would be reasonable to assume its tri-band UMTS.

[ianl8888]

Given a plethora of information, it would be reasonable to assume its tri-band UMTS.

Thank you for your contribution.

Device manufacturers change specs without notice (and reserve the right to do so).

Retailers make mis-lists all the time.

I don't *assume* with my money - I work only on hard fact, so:

like most people, I'm just waiting for "real soon now"

The Qualcomm/Broadcom US Court situation is still evolving ... I'm not going to punt on an outcome with $$$

[reyjabs]

I just called in2mobiles to check a few things. Here is the latest from 5 mins ago:

1) The expected in-stock date is now Jan 14th. The web site hasn't caught up with this yet.

2) Devicewire.co.uk do a good job of explicitly calling out a 2 year warranty (but are also a bit naughty about implying that you won't get this elswhere). This is the main reason I called in2mobiles to see if they also offered the 2 year warranty. In case anyone else was wondering, in2mobiles also get their devices via approved UK HTC sources and as such also carry the full 2 year HTC manufacturer's warranty.

3) While I had someone on the phone I tried to clarify why the spec for the 3G stuff was getting ammended from being tri-band down to only 2100 MHz on some sites (e.g. in2mobiles and Expansys) and whether the UK HTC was going to be tri-band 3G. The guy I spoke to didn't know this and said that the tech guy who might be able to help wouldn't be back until next Thu so I have no more info on this but I did ask!

- Julian

For Band clarification;


Tri-Band HSDPA/UMTS 2100Mhz (Europe), 850/1900Mhz (USA). HSDPA up to 384kbps for upload and 3.6Mbps for download. UMTS up to 384kbps for upload and download. Quad-band EDGE/GPRS/GSM 850/900/1800/1900MHz
(Excerpt from HTC Site)


Meaning Europe is only using the 2100Mhz spectrum while the US is using the 850/1900Mhz spectrum.

It's still Tri-Band but the 850/1900Mhz is useless in Europe.:D

[waqarz]

Thank you for your contribution.

Device manufacturers change specs without notice (and reserve the right to do so).

Retailers make mis-lists all the time.

I don't *assume* with my money - I work only on hard fact

I don’t want to question your style of shopping; it’s every one’s personal matter. If by “hard fact” you mean someone else buying the device, make a test about the tri-band capability and then give a verdict, please proceed. As far as I am concerned, I consider the confusing line at expansys just a mistake (when compared to several other sources of information).

As far as “Device manufacturers change specs without notice,” I think this does not apply to the case when you have completed a deal based on an understanding.

Once again, if you don’t want to buy it just yet, it’s your decision!



The Qualcomm/Broadcom US Court situation is still evolving ...

Can we leave it to the “other” thread?

b.t.w, what this thread is doing in the “Polaris upgrading section”??

[ianl8888]

Thank you for your contribution. I agree on "another thread" ... I started one to discuss this issue.

By hard fact, I mean the actual hard specifications/price when the device actually retails in the dealers I use. Probably "real soon now"

[reyjabs]

The website says pre-order, stock due 11th Jan, but also in stock?

Has anyone phoned them up to check if they really are in stock?

Maybe their shopping cart software requires them to show as in-stock for people to be able to order?

Confirmed over the phone 0845 2222 786. :)

Stocks will be released tomorrow from Customs and pre-order dispatch will commence on Friday, 11th of January 2008. Cheers guys! The wait is now over.

http://www.in2mobiles.co.uk/htc-touch-cruise-p30853.html

but, wait!

What's this?

http://pdadb.net/img/meizu_m8_minione.jpg (http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=987)

and this,

http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-content/gphone.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FJHYqE0RDg)

Now, i'm having second thoughts.:rolleyes:

[kutonglupa]

Confirmed over the phone 0845 2222 786. :)

Stocks will be released tomorrow from Customs and pre-order dispatch will commence on Friday, 11th of January 2008. Cheers guys! The wait is now over.

http://www.in2mobiles.co.uk/htc-touch-cruise-p30853.html

but, wait!

What's this?

http://pdadb.net/img/meizu_m8_minione.jpg (http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=987)

and this,

http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-content/gphone.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FJHYqE0RDg)

Now, i'm having second thoughts.:rolleyes:

This one looks nice darling.