Dash sync solutions with Vista or Mac

[atlp99]

I have a T-mobile Dash that I am very happy with but am shopping for a new laptop. I am considering 2 laptops running Vista (Dell XPS 1330 and a Toshiba Protege R500)and the 13' Macbook. My concern is being able to sync up contacts and calender. I am currently syncing to Outlook on my laptop running XP. I am not sure which would be easier to sync my Dash with. I have heard the problems with Vista and Mobile Device Center, and have know that there is software that allows syncing with a mac. I am mainly concerned with being able to sync my contacts and calender, everything else is secondary.

My options seem to be basically,
Deal with WMDC on Vista,
Use software such as missing sync to sync to the mac,
run xp on parallels to sync with outlook via active sync.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

P.S. I need microsoft office for compatibility with the computers at school for projects etc, so I have outlook but use it only for contacts and calenders, not email.

Thanks,
Bryan

[ashasaur]

well, you could start by getting a laptop with Vista on it, and immeditealy re-format it XP...which should be the default choice if you ask me:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[indiekiduk]

well, you could start by getting a laptop with Vista on it, and immeditealy re-format it XP...which should be the default choice if you ask me:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Yep unfortunately Vista isn't up to par with windows mobile compatibility as yet. I got a MacBook Pro and an iPhone ;) but yes you could use the missing sync and a MacBook. I haven't used it personally but I've heard good reports. Get the Mac first and you'll love its philosophy so much I bet you get an iPhone.

[serpentello]

I use missing sync with my Imac and it's great. :D

[atlp99]

How hard is it to get a copy of XP to replace Vista? That would be an ideal solution. No new software to buy as the software that I have would need I have already. If XP was offered as the OS on one of the windows laptops I would not be tempted by the mac. I am happy with my XP laptop now and am just looking for something smaller and more portable.

[atlp99]

Indiekiduk,
I would love to get an apple SMARTPHONE. If apple released a 3G iphone and opened it up to third party apps i would consider it. I was really looking forward to the potential that the Iphone had, but am extremely disappointed with the current version. If apple released a smartphone with the capabilities of a WM phone then I would be tempted. I work for a cell phone company that sells Verizon, ATT, and T-Mobile. I would consider ATT service for an apple smartphone, not the current entertainment phone.

[indiekiduk]

It has WiFi that goes faster than WM and can run 3rd party apps. Yes GPRS is a little slower than 3G and it takes a small bit of effort to set it up to install the installer which lets you install the 3rd party apps from one tap, but overall the iphone is leagues above a windows mobile. The interface is stunning, so intuitive and a joy to use. The device is sleek and the hardware is the most powerful ever in a phone, multi-touch screen, orientation sensor, one button on the headset for pause music, skip song, answer and hang calls, it even has a 3D graphics accelerator!! It has a full web browser, pages look just like your laptop, double tap columns of text to zoom to them, supports javascript, ajax, animations, more people are browsing on the iphone than windows 98 and Windows mobile combined in the latest stats! I'm only touching on the features here.

Here is the installer:
http://iphone.nullriver.com/beta/

Here are some other things to get excited about!
http://cre.ations.net/creation/dock
http://navizon.typepad.com/my_weblog/2007/09/a-version-of-na.html

Honestly man, windows mobile is up shit creek.

You can use the iPhone on T-Mobile if you unlock it, either using the freeware AnySim (in installer) or using www.stealthsim.com (the latest iphones require this method at present). If you work for a cell phone company this should be trivial for you.

[atlp99]

Im glad the Iphone works for you, but it does not offer anything that would make me spend the money for one at this point. I know that there is unlocking software and applications out there, but it is a lot of trouble to go through for an expensive phone. If I were going to spend that kind of money right now i would probably but an unlocked Kaiser. Like i said, if apple brought out a true smartphone i would be seriously interested, rigth now there are just too many drawbacks for me.
The way apple has treated the iPhone actually makes me want to buy a mac less (and certainly not right before Macworld). I have not been impressed by the way they have handled the iphone, but I am not really impressed with Vista either. If microsoft had not messed up Vista and WMDC then I would not be considering switching to a mac, I would just adjust to vista.
If I switched phones right now it would probably be to a BB Curve, as UMA (hot spot at home) calling would be a a good feature for me.

[ashasaur]

How hard is it to get a copy of XP to replace Vista? That would be an ideal solution. No new software to buy as the software that I have would need I have already. If XP was offered as the OS on one of the windows laptops I would not be tempted by the mac. I am happy with my XP laptop now and am just looking for something smaller and more portable.
Well, I dont know what we are supposed to post on here, but shoot me a PM and I can see about hookin you up...

[travisc]

i haven't had any problems with Vista and my S621... i sync up to Outlook with my contacts and calendar no prob...

[indiekiduk]

Im glad the Iphone works for you, but it does not offer anything that would make me spend the money for one at this point. I know that there is unlocking software and applications out there, but it is a lot of trouble to go through for an expensive phone. If I were going to spend that kind of money right now i would probably but an unlocked Kaiser. Like i said, if apple brought out a true smartphone i would be seriously interested, rigth now there are just too many drawbacks for me.
The way apple has treated the iPhone actually makes me want to buy a mac less (and certainly not right before Macworld). I have not been impressed by the way they have handled the iphone, but I am not really impressed with Vista either. If microsoft had not messed up Vista and WMDC then I would not be considering switching to a mac, I would just adjust to vista.
If I switched phones right now it would probably be to a BB Curve, as UMA (hot spot at home) calling would be a a good feature for me.

Eh? The Kaiser is twice the price of the iphone! $800 compared with $400. Here are more apps to wet your appetite!
http://lifehacker.com/339834/the-20-best-iphone-and-ipod-touch-applications

I know its a tough decision moving from something you know to something new. But honestly, owning a Mac will blow you away and your only frustration will be why you didn't get one sooner!

[atlp99]

I know that the Kaiser is expensive but it lines up better with what I need in a phone.
If I went to an I phone I would lose
Push email (WM6 push email with hotmail) and easy setup of gmail
Hardware keyboard, ( after spending some time with a friends iPhone this is fairly neutral, i prefer a hardware keyboard but the iPhone keyboard is workable)
MMS, (I send enough picture messages to my wife that I would miss this ability)

If I unlocked it to use on my T-mobile dealer line then I would not be able to update to the newer versions of the software as they come out without locking the phone again until the software has been hacked again. Has 1.1.2 been fully unlocked for both applications and sim?

Indiekiduk, this has me rethinking how what i would really miss if I went to an Iphone so keep the ideas coming :)
Thanks

[Poser]

So I have given up on getting the toshiba BT stack to play nicely with my device, and have opted to used the default vista drivers. All this to simply get active sync to work via bluetooth.

I have been able to pair the two devices, but when it comes time to sync... regardless of what I use as a passkey, I always get a failure message from vista. Passkey was not exchanged variety...

I have researched across the web to see similar problems, but no solutions. Any thoughts

Thanks

ROM: Kavana 6.1 (rickwyatt flavor) v. 18
OS: Vista x64 ultimate
WMDM: 6.1

[Poser]

Okay... I finally have my dash synced via bluetooth...

...now how can I edit my registry on my pc to change what serial port (com6) my bluetooth uses to push data files

[gadget_lover]

Hi, I hope somebody can help me, ever since I installed 6.1 and try to syn either via bluetooth or usb my phone says "this device its not allowed to connect to desktop computer" i dont know what to do and i really need to sync my phone! :(:(

[Poser]

XP or vista?

what bluetooth stack?

[gadget_lover]

its vista and its the built-in bluetooth on my laptop!

[q007n]

I just upgraded to mobile 6.1 and overall everything works now after installing a bunch of cab files to fix the keyboard issues. However now my Windows Vista won't recognize my HTC phone. I finally went to USB to PC setting and unchecked "Enable Advanced Network Functionality" and Vista seemed to recognize it. However my Dash now says it REQUIRES Active Sync 4.5 or higher. Vista uses Windows Mobile Center and for some reason I can't get it to recognize and create a partnership. Any thoughts?

Also how do I get a song to become my ring tone. Seems this was lost

Thanks!

[lukybandit]

Unfortunately, I have the same problem. I updated to the latest "Windows Mobile Device Center" - still no luck, I get "Synchronization Failed Error" and to update to active sync 4.5 - Wierd :S

However, I have another computer running vista, it's a brand new pc which barely has anything on it and it connects just fine so I had to use that all day yesterday but the pc I use is in my room and that's the one giving me errors.

Any Solutions? :)

[Mikey]

firewall? that might be a part to your problem

[lukybandit]

Tried everything and it still won't recognize it - Any other solutions?

I even tried unchecking advanced network functionality

Uninstalled/Reinstalled WMDC 6.1 & Update (Rebooting as well)

Uninstalled WMDC 6.1 & Installing WMDC 6

Even switched USB ports, No luck

Turned off firewall

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P.S: I keep getting Synchronization Error and asking me to update to ActiveSync 4.5, Mind you it works on my other computer with Vista running on it.

- would not recognize it :S
- it used to work just fine with WM6

Any help would be appreciated.

[jdoggraz]

Try to run as admin on your computer

[d0m1n0]

I had the same problem, here's what I did.

Advanced network = Checked
Charge over USB = Checked

Went to device Manager, uninstalled the device for the advanced network functionality.

http://mrjoe.us/pics/Device_Manager.jpg

Let Device Manager reinstall the advanced network device.
Unplugged the phone, unchecked advanced network.
Leave charge over USB checked.
Plugged the phone back in, now works.

[jabes0829]

I still don't understand why MS can't get a decent sync client out there. Every version of ActiveSync sucked and WMDC sucks too.

Syncing with a PC is and always has been the worst part of the Windows Mobile/PocketPC/Smartphone experience. OTA syncing with an Exchange server works really well... why can't a physical connection work as reliably?

Sorry... just griping.

[lukybandit]

Frig Man ! This is pissing me off

WTF ! why won't it connect to vista - I tried everything and it just won't recognize it, it will just install the software, it recognize that its hooked upto something but it just won't connect nor can i access the phone

- tried firewall
- tried reinstalling and installing wmdc 6.1
- tried installing wmdc 6
- tried unchecking and checking advanced network
- did what one of the posters above said
- KEEP GETTING THE DAMN "SYNCHRONIZATION ERROR"
(basically says to install activesync 4.5 or later)

wtf? what am i doing wrong :s i don't even get it. and the funny part is, it connects to mom's computer that's running vista as well and it used to connect before i upgraded to the latest rom that is 6.1 - I'm running Kavana's 0408. Please help !

[jdoggraz]

Um same here I am getting the same problem here to.

[lukybandit]

you are to? frig man - its pissing me off

can't microsoft get one thing right - seriously?

I really really wish i could revert back to XP but unfortunately, i can't. I'm on my mom's computer right now and I've been doing everything from here cause i just can't get access to my phone through my computer and i have everything on there :(

Does anyone have any idea what to do? Please help - thanks

[jdoggraz]

you are to? frig man - its pissing me off

can't microsoft get one thing right - seriously?

I really really wish i could revert back to XP but unfortunately, i can't. I'm on my mom's computer right now and I've been doing everything from here cause i just can't get access to my phone through my computer and i have everything on there :(

Does anyone have any idea what to do? Please help - thanks

Well its not Microsoft but rather the rom that is not sending the right information to the computer. If you downgrade to the Tmobile Original rom you can sync it but this rom sucks... so its a give or take situation you know. Anyways, if you open my computer up can you see the phone there under the harddrive and diskdrives?

[lukybandit]

Well its not Microsoft but rather the rom that is not sending the right information to the computer. If you downgrade to the Tmobile Original rom you can sync it but this rom sucks... so its a give or take situation you know. Anyways, if you open my computer up can you see the phone there under the harddrive and diskdrives?

no, i can't - but whereas the computer I'm at right now, it's a vista as well and it's just fine on this, it's a brand new computer and it barely has anything on this but yeah on this computer, i do see the icon for my phone but on my own computer, it does recognize it but does not come up on WMDC or my computer :S


EDIT: Wierd, ok i checked everything on my computer, it's the exact same setup as my other computer

- WMDC 6.1 (Same version)
- Smartphone USB Sync installed under Mobile Devices in Device Manager
- Enable Advanced network (unchecked), charge on usb (checked)

i just don't get it. i even checked the firewall, i don't know what's conflicting :S

[davycrockett0392]

so i installed 6.1 on my dash, the operating system before that was just wm6

NOW I WANT TO GO BACK TO WM6 AND I CANT BECAUSE IT WONT CONNECT TO MY COMPUTER! help!!!?!??!

[Mikey]

Scroll to the last panel "settings" left click to option 8 USB to PC
click on it
make sure the first box is UNchecked.

[jdoggraz]

Scroll to the last panel "settings" left click to option 8 USB to PC
click on it
make sure the first box is UNchecked.

I tried that and Vista will not open up the Active Synce Program.

[rkelley_10]

Vista will only work with Windows Mobile Device Center 6.1. Go to microsoft.com and search "Windows Mobile Device Center 6.1 download." When it shows you the list of possible downloads choose "English 32-bit." Hope that helps you.

*Do make sure that the "Enabled advanced network functionality" box is unchecked in "USB to PC" settings.

[jdoggraz]

Vista will only work with Windows Mobile Device Center 6.1. Go to microsoft.com and search "Windows Mobile Device Center 6.1 download." When it shows you the list of possible downloads choose "English 32-bit." Hope that helps you.

*Do make sure that the "Enabled advanced network functionality" box is unchecked in "USB to PC" settings.

Yes, solution worked except I downloed the 64 bit because I have the 64 bit of vista on this computer. Thank you so much man.

[rkelley_10]

De nada. I recently just started modding my dash so I just tackled the same problem. Yeah, I just said 32-bit cause I didn't know if you spent the cash for a viable 64-bit system.

[lukybandit]

WOW !!!! Finally, It Works !

After all that hassle, I did have WMDC 6.1 and had the option for advanced functionality unchecked but IT JUST WOULDN'T CONNECT !

It was the DAMN FIREWALL as far as i know because i have bit defender and i turned that firewall off to see if it would work or not but it did not so what i did is turned bit defender's firewall off and turned the windows firewall on. Basically, then what i did is clicked "add a program through windows firewall" and manually added port numbers that i got off another forum with the same issue.


Oh Well, I'm glad it finally works !!! :D

[jdoggraz]

If you guys are running vista install this and it will fix all the problems. Just make sure to uncheck the first box under USB and PC under settings. Install the english 32 bit version from this website and it should work like a charm. THIS ONLY WORKS FOR VISTA OKAY.

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/devicecenter.mspx

[dilfatx]

same problem here..i was only able to do an update once after I installed the update and ever since then it sees my phone and i can navigate to stuff but it won't sync contacts or calendar or anything.. no sync!

[Tonerod]

I had the same problem, here's what I did.

Advanced network = Checked
Charge over USB = Checked

Went to device Manager, uninstalled the device for the advanced network functionality.

http://mrjoe.us/pics/Device_Manager.jpg

Let Device Manager reinstall the advanced network device.
Unplugged the phone, unchecked advanced network.
Leave charge over USB checked.
Plugged the phone back in, now works.

This worked for me. Thanks for the tip! :)

[serialtoon]

Active Sync only works on Windows XP. Not on Vista for some reason. Ive tried about 3 different XP machines, all work fine. I then went and tried it on 6 (yes SIX!) Vista machines, ranging from Ultimate 64-Bit down to Basic...same thing. It just wont work. By the way, Ive tried 3 different phones as well (All Dash's) and no dice in the same scenario. I'm stumped and i need help getting this damn thing to work under Vista, i have a suspicion it has to do with the Mobile Active Sync thing Vista comes installed with. Also one last request here, is it possible to turn off the "Message Recieved" notification when i send out MMS to someone? Its annoying and freezes my phone sometimes.

OS Running : Windows Vista Ultimate x64
Dash OS : Windows Mobile 6.1 Kavana English

[lukybandit]

Active Sync only works on Windows XP. Not on Vista for some reason. Ive tried about 3 different XP machines, all work fine. I then went and tried it on 6 (yes SIX!) Vista machines, ranging from Ultimate 64-Bit down to Basic...same thing. It just wont work. By the way, Ive tried 3 different phones as well (All Dash's) and no dice in the same scenario. I'm stumped and i need help getting this damn thing to work under Vista, i have a suspicion it has to do with the Mobile Active Sync thing Vista comes installed with. Also one last request here, is it possible to turn off the "Message Recieved" notification when i send out MMS to someone? Its annoying and freezes my phone sometimes.

OS Running : Windows Vista Ultimate x64
Dash OS : Windows Mobile 6.1 Kavana English


Please search the forums. There's many threads about Activesync & Vista where I have provided support as well as I had some issues running Activesync & Vista.

I will come up with a guide for Active Sync & Vista later on in the week when I get a chance.

Cheers!

- THREAD CLOSED

[SirKeats]

I connect and sync fine over BT in vista using WMDC... what I'm currious about is if there's a "right" way to end the connection.

Why I ask is because every time I either close WMDC or disconnect the BT connection via the phone... I get a pop-up window saying "WMDC Sync Host has stopped working" and the option to close the program or debug the program.

It's not a big deal, but it makes me think I'm doing something wrong when it comes to ending the BT connection between my phone and the computer.

I've tried ending said connection a number of different ways (e.g. first on the phone then on the computer, and vise versa). No matter how I close everything down, I still always get the window.

Is there a "right" way (order of operations or whatever) to close up shop after I've synced when using WMDC on vista so that I don't get this window every time?

[cornell2]

I have been having this problem ever since Wm6.1 upgrade. Ever since, my chances of seeing "connected" in Vista activesynch is 50-50. No amount of rebooting or anythign will change this. Different computers, 5 different USB cords (3 different ports on each PC).

So after a month of this, I figured of course that there must be something quirky with the connector on my device (never mind that the usb power charger always connects 100%). I called tmobile and they replaced my phone.

OK - brand new out of the box WM6.0 ... synchs all the time. Upgrade to 6.1 ... back to 50-50.

I thought it was me until I started reading the thread.

I am pretty adept at device settings etc - but could not for the life of me follow some of the miracle solutions posted.

Does anyone have any definitive insights here? Perhaps the moderator, or the guy who actually created this 6.1 port?

Thanks! Desparate for a solution.






Frig Man ! This is pissing me off

WTF ! why won't it connect to vista - I tried everything and it just won't recognize it, it will just install the software, it recognize that its hooked upto something but it just won't connect nor can i access the phone

- tried firewall
- tried reinstalling and installing wmdc 6.1
- tried installing wmdc 6
- tried unchecking and checking advanced network
- did what one of the posters above said
- KEEP GETTING THE DAMN "SYNCHRONIZATION ERROR"
(basically says to install activesync 4.5 or later)

wtf? what am i doing wrong :s i don't even get it. and the funny part is, it connects to mom's computer that's running vista as well and it used to connect before i upgraded to the latest rom that is 6.1 - I'm running Kavana's 0408. Please help !