video playback ?

[loorent]

hi,

is video playback, especially divx, possible on cruise ?

...and working fine ? at wich resolution ?

i heard about playback issues on tytn II, and i want to know if it is the same with cruise.

regards,

laurent.

[Abbsta]

hi,

is video playback, especially divx, possible on cruise ?

...and working fine ? at wich resolution ?

i heard about playback issues on tytn II, and i want to know if it is the same with cruise.

regards,

laurent.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=355172

[loorent]

i saw that, but...only one negative feedback !....meaning: r we sure there's a big issue on that ?

[jgermuga]

It's essentially the same platform as the Tytn II with a different form factor so there are more resaons to believe it will have the same video playback capabilities. The benchmarks look the same too. If it is better, that is good news because then the drivers can possibly be harvested from the Cruise.

My sugestion would be that if this is a key feature for you, wait a bit and see how it plays out for sure.

[loorent]

thx !

i will wait...or buy an iphone ;)

[maati]

Don't waste your money for the iPhone! The HTC Polaris can play ANY video without any issues using TCPMP 0.81.

Get it here: http://www.ppc-welt.de/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=25780&d=1199459090

[badaccent]

I have tried both TCPMP and the newer CorePlayer on the TyTN II (same platform as Polaris) for playing downsized DivX and Xvid (320x240) and I must say it SUCKED. the playback was choppy, the sound had outages, the player was sluggish while in playback. It seems the Qualcomm chipset does not handle video playback well.

[jgermuga]

Don't waste your money for the iPhone! The HTC Polaris can play ANY video without any issues using TCPMP 0.81.

Get it here: http://www.ppc-welt.de/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=25780&d=1199459090

This can not possibly be true. It looks like you are deliberately trying to cause a debate. Why?

[maati]

Well, I only know that my HTC Polaris play every video very well!

Believe it or not, but TCPMP 0.81 does not lag at all.

[badaccent]

<lawyerspeak>

TO MAATI:

Sir, you are hereby requested and required to provide the community with proof that TCPMP 0.81 video play back does not lag and performs acceptably. A YouTube video will be acceptable.

</lawyerspeak>

[batumulia]

I hereby join the club of people who wants to see proof.

[Chainfire]

A youtube video?

How about just posting a video here and posting back the results from the 'benchmark' option in TCPMP.

I have two videos I use for testing / benchmarking this from another topic. Don't remember the topic and I'm not home right now, but if nobody comes up with one I will take them from my device and put them here.

I doubt the Polaris has the correct drivers, but if it does, ROM dump and we'll fix them up for the Kaiser in NO time (same idea we have with KS20, but KS20 drivers are not very compatible - the polaris drivers will probably work without hacks)

[maati]

Please read the EDIT there: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1786601&postcount=27

It only performs well below resolutions of 400xXXX. So there are NO drivers, unfortunately.

[waqarz]

Well you can play VGA (640x480) sized videos on Polaris, see my post on the other thread:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1792982#post1792982

[Chainfire]

As promised, albeit a bit late, here are the two video files I have used for my own benchmarks. I have seen them used in other topics, as well as other sites.

My results, tested on Stock HTC (Dutch) TyTN II in TCPMP 0.72RC1

320x240

DDRAW: 63%
RAW: 195%
GDI: 108%

640x480

DDRAW: 24%
RAW: 75%
GDI: 62%

320x240: http://www.jongma.org/tmp/videotest320240.avi
640x480: http://www.jongma.org/tmp/videotest640480.avi

Yeah, 320x240 plays fine, but the point is that you shouldn't need to recode a 640x480 video. It should just play fine.

[mastelos]

As promised, albeit a bit late, here are the two video files I have used for my own benchmarks. I have seen them used in other topics, as well as other sites.

My results, tested on Stock HTC (Dutch) TyTN II in TCPMP 0.72RC1

320x240

DDRAW: 63%
RAW: 195%
GDI: 108%

640x480

DDRAW: 24%
RAW: 75%
GDI: 62%

320x240: http://www.jongma.org/tmp/videotest320240.avi
640x480: http://www.jongma.org/tmp/videotest640480.avi

Yeah, 320x240 plays fine, but the point is that you shouldn't need to recode a 640x480 video. It should just play fine.

the 640x480 video in your link with low quality and raw ,has 152% with tcpmp 0.81
also when i try other video format(.mpg)the results are disappointed.

[Straputsky]

Ah, very good, some "cracks" are here.
So what is the highest quality I can achieve with the Cruise? Due to the fact, that I'm really out of money for the next time (damn laptop crashed), the software used should be freeware. I don't mind in downsizing to 320x240, but I want to have a minimum speed of 25fps (some people use 15fps, but I don't like that). Which codec should I use, which bitrate, which program?

[Cedricm]

Don't waste your money for the iPhone! The HTC Polaris can play ANY video without any issues using TCPMP 0.81.

Get it here: http://www.ppc-welt.de/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=25780&d=1199459090

I have installed TCPMP 0.72RC1.
Is there any reason to update to 0.81?

Thanks,
Cédric

[basilrsa]

I have tried both TCPMP and the newer CorePlayer on the TyTN II (same platform as Polaris) for playing downsized DivX and Xvid (320x240) and I must say it SUCKED. the playback was choppy, the sound had outages, the player was sluggish while in playback. It seems the Qualcomm chipset does not handle video playback well.

My experience has been good so far with the TyTN II and Coreplayer Ver 1.1.1
I followed the method given by Mrvanx on his site to convert DVD's and shrink the file size.
Average for a DVD about 500mb.
The quality of the video is good with no skipping at all.
The sound I route through my HTC bluetooth headset and is IPod standard.
I used the same software on my TyTN.
I am using the loaded TyTN II OEM software.

[norf1983]

I appreciate that the Kaiser and Polaris appear to have the same problems with video.

My confussions starts here;

Will the polaris or kaiser play video back at 320x240? And if this is the case are people just a little pi**ed off that they wont play back 640x480 videos. sorry if this is a dumb arse newbie type of question!

Cheers
Marc

[Viroslav]

[QUOTE=Chainfire;1800345]As promised, albeit a bit late, here are the two video files I have used for my own benchmarks. I have seen them used in other topics, as well as other sites.

My results, tested on Stock HTC (Dutch) TyTN II in TCPMP 0.72RC1

320x240

DDRAW: 63%
RAW: 195%
GDI: 108%

640x480

DDRAW: 24%
RAW: 75%
GDI: 62%

320x240: http://www.jongma.org/tmp/videotest320240.avi
640x480: http://www.jongma.org/tmp/videotest640480.avi

QUOTE]

My results, tested on HTC Magician (imate JAM) in TCPMP 0.72RC1

320x240

intel: 340%
RAW: 250%
GDI: 216%

640x480

Intel: 140%
RAW: 113%
GDI: 92%

320x240: http://www.jongma.org/tmp/videotest320240.avi
640x480: http://www.jongma.org/tmp/videotest640480.avi

I have run the same tests with the sames files in the same TCPMP version on my imate JAM (!!!!). It is more than 3 years old, so I was thinking on changing it by a Cruise.

I need that someone will tell me that I did something wrong or that I read wrongly the data!
Peease!