Hard SPL for Wizard G3!!!

[Prislav]

Removed pending posting of instructions.

[stmasi]

What is this for?

Thanx.

[mfrazzz]

Hi!
Subj - http://rapidshare.com/files/76444771/wzg3.7z

Sorry, not meant as a slam, but someone with only 21 posts, puts up a Rapidshare link for something to flash to a Wizard saying its HardSPL and no other instructions or information... Sorry (again, no offense meant by this) but I wouldn't flash something that is unexplained (if there is another post about this, then at least give a pointer to that in the first post).

FWIW: HardSPL is a way of making your device almost unbrickable. If it works like with the Hermes and Kaiser HardSPL, then you do the steps needed to install this, instead of the old CID unlock procedure of having to go back to the Button ROM and running lokiwiz.

But still, I'd be careful flashing something like this until more is known about it (the source, instructions for the method to install it, etc).

[epimazzo]

Totally agreed! I wouldn't go for it!

[cgigate]

I don't mind to brick my wizard again!

[Prislav]

mfrazzz
I with you agree, but...
I shall be immodest - please read ALL my messages ;-)

Instructions are not present because I do not wish to be responsible for another's nonsense. To whom it is necessary that will understand.

[akashastrega]

Sorry, not meant as a slam, but someone with only 21 posts, puts up a Rapidshare link for something to flash to a Wizard saying its HardSPL and no other instructions or information... Sorry (again, no offense meant by this) but I wouldn't flash something that is unexplained (if there is another post about this, then at least give a pointer to that in the first post).

FWIW: HardSPL is a way of making your device almost unbrickable. If it works like with the Hermes and Kaiser HardSPL, then you do the steps needed to install this, instead of the old CID unlock procedure of having to go back to the Button ROM and running lokiwiz.

But still, I'd be careful flashing something like this until more is known about it (the source, instructions for the method to install it, etc).

Lokiwiz has been a trusted and faithful friend. Until I get more info, instructions, screeners even...I will keep using my trusted friend Loki.
No offense to the OP, but "read my other posts" doesn't tell us much. Your other posts are just like this one. Short and to the point, no real info given...nothing telling me how to install/run it. Nothing troubleshooting if an issue should arise. Read the Loki thread, or Dr. P's tutorial...everything anyone needs to know about Loki is there. Yours...not so much.

[stmasi]

Hey, all I need is a "no-answer" answer from the poster and that's enough for me to hold back.

:rolleyes:

[zabardast_1]

mfrazzz
I with you agree, but...
I shall be immodest - please read ALL my messages ;-)

Instructions are not present because I do not wish to be responsible for another's nonsense. To whom it is necessary that will understand.

Very irresponsible attitude,don't post if you are not sure what it's all about,but if you post than have the courage to standby it.

[malhaar]

i tried on my friends wizard not mine..:D .copy alll those files on wizard.. and click spl.lnk..and see the difference...:D

[akashastrega]

Very irresponsible attitude,don't post if you are not sure what it's all about,but if you post than have the courage to standby it.

Very true!!



IF, you check his entries, other posts like this one have been made in other device sections. Now how all the mighty guru's here have somehow overlooked this ability, and he has manged to make it happen...

When a dev here releases something, it is does with so much info that if something does happen, a person KNOWS it can be fixed. To say:

Instructions are not present because I do not wish to be responsible for another's nonsense. To whom it is necessary that will understand.
Tells me this person really gives a sh*t less about whether or not my usage helps or kills my device. Real nice attitude there...makes me really confident about using the linky.

And to the poster above...you feel so confident about it that you tried it on a friends wizard??? If it does work, as you say, please give us more details about it...since we have none really.

[jwzg]

Until we see some directions as well as a bit more transparency from the OP, I'm removing the link. OP, please PM me when you have fulfilled those requirements.

[akashastrega]

Until we see some directions as well as a bit more transparency from the OP, I'm removing the link. OP, please PM me when you have fulfilled those requirements.


Thank you.
I certaily wasn't about to take the risk, especially with the attitude from the OP.
Again, thanks.

[nandlal_mk]

Guys dont bombard like this:) , Prislav has always presented raw content like this in Prophet forum also. Maintaining the terminology:), just see diagram, might be useful- simple
But im not favouring any one. please!

[Prislav]

I force nobody. Do not want, it is not necessary. To me it is not important.

[djwillis]

Well this thread seems nice and hostile ;).

Unless I am missing something all Prislav has done is to use JumpSPL (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334667&highlight=jumpspl) by Pof (Nice WinCE Tramp by the way :D) to fire off a patched G3 SoftSPL and from there let you launch into the ROM update routine.

Prislav’s post may have been a little short on details but there is plenty of info on the board and in his previous threads on the subject. Pof's JumpSPL thread is also a goldmine of info.

Prislav also seems to have been kind enough to provide a patched 'flashable' SPL for G3 devices.

I have not tried this yet (my G3 junkers are at home, so I will tonight) but looking at the dumps of the files and the steps that Prislav has gone through I think this should work.

The SoftSPL seems to contain nothing dangerous and I test launched it on a G4 I have on my desk to no adverse affect (in fact it did almost what I expected, not sure it is putting the device into the correct 'wait for USB' state mind you but it does answer to prods from MTTY :D).

Looking at the way the file is patched (and my limited knowledge in this area may let me down, I am more of an ARM Linux hacker) is very interesting. It also looks very much like this could be wrapped into a SoftSPL flashtool that just soft patches a G3 before flashing (and also gives users a choice to flash a HardSPL if wanted, just like we do with G4’s and most modern HTC devices).

[djwillis]

Ok,

Just an update to my last post,

I found an old G3 with a broken keyboard under my desk. IPL/SPL 2.17, ancient radio and AKU2.

SoftSPL via JumpSPL from Pof/Prislav seems to work fine :D.
Converted the Hard-SPL.nb to an nk.nbf (with just the SPL in it).
Flashed the resulting nk.nbf.
Device is now running a patched SPL (2.H4).
Just upgraded device to WM6 from an off the shelf ROM (had Jag 4.0 handy) using the usual NVID update tool.

The end result is an old, unhacked WM5 G3 upgraded to WM6 in a matter of mins.



Download: I will edit this post when I get home and have had a chance to upload the files to my site. - Stuck at work right now.

Edit @ 22:00, 17th Jan: Download is now up here (http://www.distant-earth.com/wmobile/G3-HardSPL.rar). Use with care and don't come crying to me (or Prislav ;)).

HowTo: Install PatchedSPL on a G3 Wizard (or just run a SoftSPL if you flash another OS ROM at step 7 with the included flash tool).

Warning: I have only tried this with 2.* IPL’s/SPL’s, I can’t be sure it will not brick devices running 3.* or 1.* IPL’s/SPL’s. It will be a few days before I can test this so if you have a 3.* or 1.* bootloader I would suggest you leave this well alone. Do not try this on a G4, there is no point and you may well brick it ;).

1: Install latest ActiveSync (If you’re upgrading from WM5-6 your going to need it)
2: Download the rar from my website.
3: Copy the contents of the “Copy to root of G3 Wizard device” folder to the ROOT of your Wizard using ActiveSync.
4: From File Explorer run the SPL shortcut from the root of the device.
5: Wait for the screen to go white (you are now running a patched SoftSPL running from RAM),
6: Unplug and reconnect the USB lead to the PC (you can check the connection with MTTY if your so inclined).
7: Wait a few seconds and start the ROM upgrade in “Flash-WizG3-PatchedSPL”.

If all goes well this will work just like a normal ROM update (without anything shown on your Wizard’s screen) and your device will reboot after a few mins.

Check the version of the SPL running, if it is SPL version 2.H4 all should be fine and your now running a CID unlocked device that can take any Wizard ROM.

John

[AldoWeb]

What's the difference between CID unlock(using LokiWiz) and this proceudure (Hard Spl)?

[djwillis]

What's the difference between CID unlock(using LokiWiz) and this procedure (Hard Spl)?

To be honest, very little. Both leave you free to flash a ROM of your choice :).
This just uses the same 'methods' as used with newer HTC devices and the G4 Wizards.

It will also be easy enough to wrap with ROM's to create 'G3' SoftSPL upgrades that flash to any G3 device without messing about. Just grab the installer, drop your nb.nbf of choice and run the upgrade.

I'll try and bundle up such an installer tonight if I get time.

Hmmm, why do I feel like I have hijacked this thread ;).

John

[AldoWeb]

So You mean:
You can Create such an installer than given a certain NBF (OS) does even the CID unlock itself.
It would be great

Aldo

[djwillis]

So You mean:
You can Create suc an installer than given a certainh NBF doeas even the CID unlock itself.
It would be great

Aldo

Assuming I read that correctly ;).

I am messing about with the 3 or so G3's I have at home. So far, I have bodged up an installer that wraps up the SoftSPL (launched using the same HaRET/Linux methods as the other SoftSPL installers use) and a standard RUU.

I have a few things I need to workout and I need to put SPL/IPL 3.* on device to test but it should work, just drop in the Wizard OS ROM you want to flash and away you go :). As a SoftSPL is launched in memory on the device the update does not care about what actual SPL is on the NAND ;).

Prislav and Pof's work makes doing something with these old Wizard's interesting again :).

J.

[AldoWeb]

Assuming I read that correctly.

I am messing about with the 3 or so G3's I have at home. So far, I have bodged up an installer that wraps up the SoftSPL (launched using the same HaRET/Linux methods as the other SoftSPL installers use) and a standard RUU.

I have a few things I need to workout and I need to put SPL/IPL 3.* on device to test but it should work, just drop in the Wizard OS ROM you want to flash and away you go :). As a SoftSPL is launched in memory on the device the update does not care about what actual SPL is on the NAND ;).

Prislav and Pof's work makes doing something with these old Wizard's interesting again :).

J.

So I believe no more bricked G3 after this.
no more LokiWiz, button rom and etc :)

[Noonski]

Why haven't there been anymore cofirms or Bricks in this thread?

Maybe a little old fashioned Bump ;)

An hour Later, and with my G4 as security and checking the documentation i can Confirm the method working,

If we can get a few more i can change the first post accordingly.

[+ Que PPC]

Why haven't there been anymore cofirms or Bricks in this thread?

Maybe a little old fashioned Bump ;)

An hour Later, and with my G4 as security and checking the documentation i can Confirm the method working,

If we can get a few more i can change the first post accordingly.

Dont forget to give any chance of gratittude to the very firs but nonsense friend that dislikes explain what is this for... jeje

So you mean that its gonna be simple than copy exe and upgrade? :eek: Even tought... the unlocking procedure wasnt hard but Everybody has different understanding skills.

[Buckoni]

I just tryed this method of Hardspl on my wizard and i started out with spl 2.25 and ipl 2.25. After running this method it seemed to work as it should but i still have the 2.25 spl and ipl. Can anyone think of what i did wrong?

[starkwong]

Why HardSPL your G3 while you can completely CID-unlock it?

[Noonski]

Why HardSPL your G3 while you can completely CID-unlock it?

For me it's a personal thing.

Since i'm so used to a HardSPL on My Touches, i like HardSPL on my Wizards to.

[zabardast_1]

Why not ?
It wud be a one step procedure for upgrading,where as,CID unlocking is atleast a 3 step procedure and then upgrading,if all goes well.
I think,it wud be a very major 'Breakthrough' for G3 devices :D

[+ Que PPC]

We can get a device just for do this procedure without all the steps just to see if it happends just as a copy files run them.... then upgrade whatever. course not G4 Stocks, cause obviously custom roms are g4 safe it dont have IPL spl but... what about the upgrade to an aku2... it stills the risk on upgrade to a G4... I can donate for a device locked but in my country are so expensive near 500 dlls, 5000 Mexican pesos.