things, that i dislike on this phone

[darksider]

sorry for this post, but this is the worst sp that i had till now, and i had a few already...

battery life is horrible,not even a day of normal using, if i have few more calls,emails and some browsing...

the keyboard is not ok for me, i had a vpa compact II which had a great keyboard, which gave realy good and fast response, and why are the soft keys on the qwerty keyboard under the screen more on the left side and right if i see a menu button on the screen i want to push right under it, and not to look first wheres the button exactly

if im listening to music with any application through the earphones, it makes-that the sound is at once also playing through the phone speaker, and i have to restart

not any one usable navigation software works under it ive tested: igo, tomtom, route 66...route66 is meda for devices without touchscreen and igo doesnt worked, which is normall, but tomtom works on some other devices, with fakecursor, but not here

cell phone switcher also didnt worked

it has only 64mb ram, its enough if i listen to mp3 and scroll a little bit faster through the start menu applications, and i have a lag

if someone could help with some of this stuff, i would be really lucky.

thx

[Lavachild]

i agree it is anoying that the landscape buttons are not under the text but i love the keyboard for how small it is. my battery life is amazing. I am going on two days of email/phone/text and it still has 20% left from its charge right out of the box. I havent even opened the charger yet. and no, i turned off the feature to charge when connected to pc so it doesnt use a cycle. it is faster then my tytn ii but the screen sucks in comparison. i just needed a smaller powerhouse and this is it and works for me :)

as for the navigation from what I read it lacks an internal antenna and will not pick up satellites anyway. again, my tytn II has gps and works great with tomtom but I also have a tomtom in my car so i never used the cell phone gps.

[darksider]

i agree it is anoying that the landscape buttons are not under the text but i love the keyboard for how small it is. my battery life is amazing. I am going on two days of email/phone/text and it still has 20% left from its charge right out of the box. I havent even opened the charger yet. and no, i turned off the feature to charge when connected to pc so it doesnt use a cycle. it is faster then my tytn ii but the screen sucks in comparison. i just needed a smaller powerhouse and this is it and works for me :)

as for the navigation from what I read it lacks an internal antenna and will not pick up satellites anyway. again, my tytn II has gps and works great with tomtom but I also have a tomtom in my car so i never used the cell phone gps.

im using now as navi in car my vpa, but i would like also to use the s730, cause when im in a strange town, it is not so comfortable to take two phones...

[Lavachild]

if you only use in the car then just buy a tomtom!

[darksider]

if you only use in the car then just buy a tomtom!

why should i? i want to use s730 as a navigation like other people are doing it with their smartphone, cause on their sp it is working fine...and i dont want an another device...

[bigflavor]

Battery Life: I use this all day for email communication, browsing, and phone without a problem (i'm 100% in the field for work). Note that I'm in the US, so I'm not using the 3G.

Keyboard: Keyboard is fine and is taking quite a bit of abuse from me (see above). Although, I agree that if they made a keyboard that tapped into my brain and guessed what keys I was going to hit next, wirelessly, it would be much better. I hear Motorola is working on that.

Music: I'm guessing you're using an ExtUSB adapter, or the included headphones, and you're stating that, while you're listening to music, after the connection is lost and regained with the ExtUSB headphones, you can't get the music to only come out of the headphones. It will come out of the speaker and the headphones only, until you soft reset. I had a problem that the ExtUSB plug on the included headphones wasn't hitting the piece of metal on square side of the ExtUSB port unless i pushed it in hard. After I pushed it in all the way, the metal made contact and I no longer had the "problem." The issue you're stating probably can be fixed with a call the HTC; if it, in fact, is truly an issue. Although, it makes no sense to me that this isn't simply a usage problem.

GPS Navigation: I have no problem running TomTom, or Google Maps. I tried using Route66, but it was too horrible (I couldn't look up addresses). There's always CoPilot Live 7 (http://www.alk.com/copilot/default.asp), which looks much better than TomTom.

TomTom: TomTom is not compatible with Windows Mobile Standard/Smartphone. Therefore you can't expect it to work, ever. If it does (read last point), it's a gift. Try mapping FakeCursor with the built-in remapping feature of Windows Mobile (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=355141).

Cell Phone Switcher: This not working is not the phone, the programmer just needs to update where the program gets the cell tower data from. It most likely just changed location.

RAM: I have no problem with RAM at all. I manage my tasks well, as should any user of a mobile device.


Overall, I'm dissatisfied with your arguments and the severity of your title "nothing works on this sp" is unwarranted. The only point you bring up that is actually bad, is the battery life; but, then again, that's the way it is; you know... batteries and stuff. It's very handy that HTC phones have the ability to charge via USB.

[A.Bagatov]

does anyone recommend a nice mobile usb charger?

[darksider]

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no you are not right, the headphones are correctly plugged in, there is something wrong, i dont know if i have a broken model or what, but if i make a call with headphones plugged inanad the music is playin, then after the call the music is also playin through the phone speaker.

i dont know which version of tomtom do you have. but also route 66 and ive tried:v7.0.3040.0 and 7.0.2992, on some other smartphones is the version: TomTom 6.02 working, it could also on this one. the fake cursor isnt a problem, i mapped it successfully but it just cannot simulate a click in tomtom.

so ram is ok?:) try to play music through coreplayer and take a photo after the phone was a few days on.

i agree with you about the title, ive changed it.

[bigflavor]

no you are not right, the headphones are correctly plugged in, there is something wrong, i dont know if i have a broken model or what, but if i make a call with headphones plugged inanad the music is playin, then after the call the music is also playin through the phone speaker.

i dont know which version of tomtom do you have. but also route 66 and ive tried:v7.0.3040.0 and 7.0.2992, on some other smartphones is the version: TomTom 6.02 working, it could also on this one. the fake cursor isnt a problem, i mapped it successfully but it just cannot simulate a click in tomtom.

so ram is ok?:) try to play music through coreplayer and take a photo after the phone was a few days on.

i agree with you about the title, ive changed it.

Headphone: I misunderstood your issue. You've attempted to reseat the headphones? If so, I'd call HTC and let them know. Issue yes... easily solvable from a software perspective... I'd assume so. Can anyone else replicate the problem? I'll try later.

Tomtom: So FakeCursor starts, you get the crosshairs... but when you hit the center directional button... it doesn't tap? You have to keep in mind that you can only "tap" in pocket pc apps, not in smartphone apps. I don't have this problem.

RAM: I don't use CorePlayer. However, I keep my tasks in check. I also soft reset daily. I never have a problem.

[luckyland]

not any one usable navigation software works under it ive tested: igo, tomtom, route 66...route66 is meda for devices without touchscreen and igo doesnt worked, which is normall, but tomtom works on some other devices, with fakecursor, but not here

I'm using Route 66 mobile 7 and it works very well.
I find it useful, and I don't miss TomTom 5 I used on my old Magician.

[darksider]

Headphone: I misunderstood your issue. You've attempted to reseat the headphones? If so, I'd call HTC and let them know. Issue yes... easily solvable from a software perspective... I'd assume so. Can anyone else replicate the problem? I'll try later.

Tomtom: So FakeCursor starts, you get the crosshairs... but when you hit the center directional button... it doesn't tap? You have to keep in mind that you can only "tap" in pocket pc apps, not in smartphone apps. I don't have this problem.

RAM: I don't use CorePlayer. However, I keep my tasks in check. I also soft reset daily. I never have a problem.

no reset headphones:D

if i have the headphones plugged in and listen tomusic through any player, and i want to call someone, i call someone and after i finish the call the music starts to play, but also through the phone speaker:(

yes, tomtom is a pocket pc application.

[bigflavor]

no reset headphones:D

if i have the headphones plugged in and listen tomusic through any player, and i want to call someone, i call someone and after i finish the call the music starts to play, but also through the phone speaker:(

yes, tomtom is a pocket pc application.


Have you tried to remove and reinsert the headphones? This does sound like a major problem, I'll attempt to replicate it today. In the meantime, call HTC.

yeaaaa... did you get TomTom to work?

[darksider]

Have you tried to remove and reinsert the headphones? This does sound like a major problem, I'll attempt to replicate it today. In the meantime, call HTC.

yeaaaa... did you get TomTom to work?

yes i have, no thanks, i will sell the phone, im not really comofortable with:(

[cbreze]

Battery Life: I use this all day for email communication, browsing, and phone without a problem (i'm 100% in the field for work). Note that I'm in the US, so I'm not using the 3G.

Keyboard: Keyboard is fine and is taking quite a bit of abuse from me (see above). Although, I agree that if they made a keyboard that tapped into my brain and guessed what keys I was going to hit next, wirelessly, it would be much better. I hear Motorola is working on that.

Music: I'm guessing you're using an ExtUSB adapter, or the included headphones, and you're stating that, while you're listening to music, after the connection is lost and regained with the ExtUSB headphones, you can't get the music to only come out of the headphones. It will come out of the speaker and the headphones only, until you soft reset. I had a problem that the ExtUSB plug on the included headphones wasn't hitting the piece of metal on square side of the ExtUSB port unless i pushed it in hard. After I pushed it in all the way, the metal made contact and I no longer had the "problem." The issue you're stating probably can be fixed with a call the HTC; if it, in fact, is truly an issue. Although, it makes no sense to me that this isn't simply a usage problem.

GPS Navigation: I have no problem running TomTom, or Google Maps. I tried using Route66, but it was too horrible (I couldn't look up addresses). There's always CoPilot Live 7 (http://www.alk.com/copilot/default.asp), which looks much better than TomTom.

TomTom: TomTom is not compatible with Windows Mobile Standard/Smartphone. Therefore you can't expect it to work, ever. If it does (read last point), it's a gift. Try mapping FakeCursor with the built-in remapping feature of Windows Mobile (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=355141).

Cell Phone Switcher: This not working is not the phone, the programmer just needs to update where the program gets the cell tower data from. It most likely just changed location.

RAM: I have no problem with RAM at all. I manage my tasks well, as should any user of a mobile device.


Overall, I'm dissatisfied with your arguments and the severity of your title "nothing works on this sp" is unwarranted. The only point you bring up that is actually bad, is the battery life; but, then again, that's the way it is; you know... batteries and stuff. It's very handy that HTC phones have the ability to charge via USB.

I couldn't agree with you more. I could have written the above except my s730 has no gps which I don`t have any use for on a phone anyway. Ram is fine, battery is awesome for it's size and pleasently surprising. Keyboard is fine. I love the small pocketable size of this device. I'm very satisfied with it. If screen were a tad bigger it would be perfect, but then maybe not quite so pocketable...lol.....forgot to mention the RF is outstanding also.

[madferret]

I don't understand how you can buy a smartphone then complain that a Pocket PC application like TT6 won't work properly.

I've transferred TT5.2 from an older phone to my S730 and it works great. Probably because it's designed to?

[darksider]

I don't understand how you can buy a smartphone then complain that a Pocket PC application like TT6 won't work properly.

I've transferred TT5.2 from an older phone to my S730 and it works great. Probably because it's designed to?

cause on other smartphones its working ,reeeead... i didnt wrote, that this sp is only terrible cause a application doesnt run on it, ive wrote more other things and just also that this applications are not runnig, whats wrong about? its my opinion, common!

[moneytoo]

cause on other smartphones its working ,reeeead... i didnt wrote, that this sp is only terrible cause a application doesnt run on it, ive wrote more other things and just also that this applications are not runnig, whats wrong about? its my opinion, common!

TT6 isn't supported on any Windows Mobile powered smartphone.

[darksider]

TT6 isn't supported on any Windows Mobile powered smartphone.

i knooooooooow, but some users with smartphones are runing it, and its working fine!
im sorry, that i even created a post.

holy god.