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LTxda
5th January 2008, 08:21 PM
I'm curious as to how many people are using the Teksoft Fingertouch keyboard donated by Teksoft to the Athena Project. I've since abandoned by hardware keyboard and use Fingertouch only.

Anyone else using this only or using something else?

Pawel062
5th January 2008, 08:33 PM
I'm curious as to how many people are using the Teksoft Fingertouch keyboard donated by Teksoft to the Athena Project. I've since abandoned by hardware keyboard and use Fingertouch only.

Anyone else using this only or using something else?

hehe im also a dump the hardware for fingertouch person. :cool:

Madhadder
6th January 2008, 05:17 AM
The thing I hate about the onscreen keyboard is that whenever you tap the screen to enter data,
it automatically pops up. 95% of the time I use the hardware Keyboard, and if I'm filling at a large
form with many fields, the darn KB app pops up every frick'n time and I have to close it to continue.

Is there a hack/mod, that turns off this auto pop-up setting? Its really
getting on my nerves.

cmonex
6th January 2008, 07:06 AM
The thing I hate about the onscreen keyboard is that whenever you tap the screen to enter data,
it automatically pops up. 95% of the time I use the hardware Keyboard, and if I'm filling at a large
form with many fields, the darn KB app pops up every frick'n time and I have to close it to continue.

Is there a hack/mod, that turns off this auto pop-up setting? Its really
getting on my nerves.

get a null SIP (SIP = onscreen keyb)

http://phm.lu has one, though i didn't try it on wm6

PAPPL
6th January 2008, 03:48 PM
Hi, i removed the HW-keyboard too.
The Fingertouch-Soft-KB looks great but it's a little too big.
It lets only 1/5 of the screen show if selected pad 5.
If selected pad 1 still only 1/3 of the screen shown.
This isn't much. Is it somehow possible to make the keyboard smaller?
Now i use the standard Keyboard with big keys and gestures and this is still a little too small for fingertouching, but now i see what i'm typing.
Any app which has size between Fingertouch and standard keyboard i think will be better.

LTxda
6th January 2008, 05:17 PM
Hi, i removed the HW-keyboard too.
The Fingertouch-Soft-KB looks great but it's a little too big.
It lets only 1/5 of the screen show if selected pad 5.
If selected pad 1 still only 1/3 of the screen shown.
This isn't much. Is it somehow possible to make the keyboard smaller?
Now i use the standard Keyboard with big keys and gestures and this is still a little too small for fingertouching, but now i see what i'm typing.
Any app which has size between Fingertouch and standard keyboard i think will be better.

Fingertouch can be skinned. I never did it as one of the guys at Fingertouch took care of this for us. If you visit their forum I'm sure they can help out or maybe there are instructions...hell they may even do it for you if you tell them you're using their product on your Athena. They donated, for free, their full version keyboard to help out. These guys are great. Their forum is also very helpful and they respond quickly based on my experience. I'm sure Fingertouch can be skinned/modified to be exactly what you want.

PAPPL
6th January 2008, 09:13 PM
http://teksoftco.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=3656#3656

Thanks, i didn't know FT-KB isn't freeware.
Great to have it inside the ROM.

Digital.Diablo
6th January 2008, 11:43 PM
I use it in combination with the hardware keyboard. I tend to find the HW keyboard easier to use when 'stationary' i.e. sat at my desk. But when oot and aboot, its easier to use the fingertouch.

I did alter the registry so that it uses keyboard '1' rather than '5' as its easier to use. Just a shame there's no £ key and the \ key isn't a shift key on board 1.

LTxda
10th January 2008, 05:46 AM
I use it in combination with the hardware keyboard. I tend to find the HW keyboard easier to use when 'stationary' i.e. sat at my desk. But when oot and aboot, its easier to use the fingertouch.

I did alter the registry so that it uses keyboard '1' rather than '5' as its easier to use. Just a shame there's no £ key and the \ key isn't a shift key on board 1.

Yea I use the regular mode. FYI, you can set this in the options for the product, no need for the registry hack. ;-p

ice_coffee
10th January 2008, 06:19 PM
I use it alot but the lack of £ sign is driving me nuts ! that is when I resort to the HW keyboard as it is quicker than switching to the WM soft keyboard

LTxda
10th January 2008, 06:43 PM
I use it alot but the lack of £ sign is driving me nuts ! that is when I resort to the HW keyboard as it is quicker than switching to the WM soft keyboard

I think that can be customized within the template. Check out their forum, I'm sure there is a solution.

ice_coffee
11th January 2008, 07:41 AM
I think that can be customized within the template. Check out their forum, I'm sure there is a solution.


thanks, I will check it out.

lpsi2000
16th January 2008, 06:38 AM
I hardly use my HW keyboard now these days. It is a lot easier with FT but I do agree with some of the comments where sometime you can't see what you are typing. However, I have learned to live with it.

LTxda
16th January 2008, 06:55 AM
Thanks everyone and keep it coming. This type of feedback is useful for future ROMs. :)

graybip
16th January 2008, 02:59 PM
I hardly use my HW keyboard now these days. It is a lot easier with FT but I do agree with some of the comments where sometime you can't see what you are typing. However, I have learned to live with it.
ditto for me on issue of not being able to see what I an typing. I an just not that good of a typist!

LTxda
16th January 2008, 03:09 PM
ditto for me on issue of not being able to see what I an typing. I an just not that good of a typist!

I'm hoping they resolve this issue as well. I've learned to work around this limitation but it does get annoying sometimes when I'm in a hurry.

kevinrirvine
16th January 2008, 05:48 PM
I'm hoping they resolve this issue as well. I've learned to work around this limitation but it does get annoying sometimes when I'm in a hurry.

I don't know if any of you are aware and it literally happened overnight but TEKSOfT APPEARS OUT OF BUSINESS and they were in business last Friday. How do I know this? SAT, SUN, AND MONDAY their website was compleltely down and yesterday and today, do the search yourself or type in their exact url you will get immediately redirected to a weird website and then click on TEKSOFT on the top right corner and it will say no results found. I hope I am wrong here but have tried directly from my device the Polaris to purchase from their online shop and it goes directly to some unknown website. kevin

LTxda
16th January 2008, 06:16 PM
I don't know if any of you are aware and it literally happened overnight but TEKSOfT APPEARS OUT OF BUSINESS and they were in business last Friday. How do I know this? SAT, SUN, AND MONDAY their website was compleltely down and yesterday and today, do the search yourself or type in their exact url you will get immediately redirected to a weird website and then click on TEKSOFT on the top right corner and it will say no results found. I hope I am wrong here but have tried directly from my device the Polaris to purchase from their online shop and it goes directly to some unknown website. kevin

Looks like maybe someone forgot to register the domain as it expired and maybe someone else snatched it up. The WHOIS expiration shows 01/10/2008, unless i'm reading the date below wrong. Unless they did go out of business and just let the domain expire.

Some of the WHOIS info

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Domain Name: teksoftco.com
Registrar: AAAQ.COM
Whois Server: whois.aaaq.com
Referral URL: http://www.aaaq.com
Name Server: ns.nozonenet.com
Name Server: ns2.nozonenet.com
Status: ACTIVE
Updated Date: 2007-02-05
Creation Date: 2006-01-10
Expiration Date: 2008-01-10
-------------------------------

leoni1980
16th January 2008, 10:49 PM
Much as I don't own an Athena anymore, the Fingertouch keyboard made a great difference and I never used the hardware keyboard. For an alternative I used a bluetooth keyboard. Without Fingertouch and the black ROM in general I would've got rid of my Athena much sooner.

Martincyborg@gmail.com
16th January 2008, 10:58 PM
I enjoy my hardware bluetooth keyboard a lot, as I work with translations and need to type out big bodies of text. As my fingers are accustomed to hardware keyboards I guess I am the conservative old goat who says "software keyboard?!?!?!"

eaglesteve
16th January 2008, 11:48 PM
I enjoy my hardware bluetooth keyboard a lot, as I work with translations and need to type out big bodies of text. As my fingers are accustomed to hardware keyboards I guess I am the conservative old goat who says "software keyboard?!?!?!"

Nothing beats the good old full sized keyboard in typing speed.

When come to software keyboard, the only one that can come anywhere near the hardware keyboard is Tengo, but I don't think it is as good as a full size hardware keyboard.

The only disadvantage of this option is that you have to carry it along, and you would also need a table to work on. Software keyboard does not have these problems. Software keyboard lets you use the device anywhere anytime, even while walking.

leoni1980
17th January 2008, 12:34 AM
Nothing beats the good old full sized keyboard in typing speed.

When come to software keyboard, the only one that can come anywhere near the hardware keyboard is Tengo, but I don't think it is as good as a full size hardware keyboard.

The only disadvantage of this option is that you have to carry it along, and you would also need a table to work on. Software keyboard does not have these problems. Software keyboard lets you use the device anywhere anytime, even while walking.

I agree that a full-sized keyboard is the best approach for text input, that's what I used to use. I used an I-GO. Are you talking about full-sized keyboards though or the hardware keyboard, which I always found slower and less responsive than any software keyboard. I preferred to carry the Athena minus-keyboard in a case, with a separate keyboard for circumstances where plenty of typing would be done. This is where I got used to having more than one device on me!

lpsi2000
17th January 2008, 05:51 AM
I don't want to be the joy killer here, but as you know if you don't keep improving someone or some company will pass you by. Competition is always good in order to keep you sharp. Checkout the Resco keyboard.

http://resco.net/pocketpc/keyboard/indepth.asp

As most of you might know I am not affiliate with resco.net but I am always looking for new toys. It looks nice but I am not going to say it is better than FT but it does look hot with my PointUI.

Martincyborg@gmail.com
17th January 2008, 05:56 AM
I agree that a full-sized keyboard is the best approach for text input, that's what I used to use. I used an I-GO. Are you talking about full-sized keyboards though or the hardware keyboard, which I always found slower and less responsive than any software keyboard. I preferred to carry the Athena minus-keyboard in a case, with a separate keyboard for circumstances where plenty of typing would be done. This is where I got used to having more than one device on me!

I usually carry a shoulder bag so my bluetooth mouse and keyboard doesn't make a whole of a lot of a difference. I like to type with the full size keyboard, but when it comes to the sms or a short mail, I even enjoy the default hardware keyboard more than the software keyboard. but thats just m ebing conservative and stubborn ;-)

eaglesteve
17th January 2008, 06:18 AM
I don't want to be the joy killer here, but as you know if you don't keep improving someone or some company will pass you by. Competition is always good in order to keep you sharp. Checkout the Resco keyboard.

http://resco.net/pocketpc/keyboard/indepth.asp

As most of you might know I am not affiliate with resco.net but I am always looking for new toys. It looks nice but I am not going to say it is better than FT but it does look hot with my PointUI.

Resco keyboard is very good too. The key things I lik about it is that it is of the right size for all dpi, and does not capture and take over too much screen real estate. I do use this for my dictinoary in 128 dpi, which for some reason, does not like Tengo. It's easy to find all the special characters on this one as it really resember the real life hardware keyboard. I like it better than Finger Touch as my stylus travels less distance and the special characters are easire to find. The shift key is also at a more intuitive location than Finger Touch.

HeartOfDarkness
18th January 2008, 12:11 AM
I use TekSoft FingerTouch profile 1 mostly, but I didn't completly ditch the hardware keyboard.

Some things are a little frustrating with it (like trying to enter a "+", for instance), but all in all, a great finger-friendly SIP keyboard

lpsi2000
18th January 2008, 03:18 AM
Resco keyboard is very good too. The key things I lik about it is that it is of the right size for all dpi, and does not capture and take over too much screen real estate. I do use this for my dictinoary in 128 dpi, which for some reason, does not like Tengo. It's easy to find all the special characters on this one as it really resember the real life hardware keyboard. I like it better than Finger Touch as my stylus travels less distance and the special characters are easire to find. The shift key is also at a more intuitive location than Finger Touch.

I have been using Resco for a few days and I must say I am texting and e-mail faster than before. It might be tiny bit better than FT, but it is too early for me tell.

kevinrirvine
18th January 2008, 05:41 PM
Looks like maybe someone forgot to register the domain as it expired and maybe someone else snatched it up. The WHOIS expiration shows 01/10/2008, unless i'm reading the date below wrong. Unless they did go out of business and just let the domain expire.

Some of the WHOIS info

-----------------------------
Domain Name: teksoftco.com
Registrar: AAAQ.COM
Whois Server: whois.aaaq.com
Referral URL: http://www.aaaq.com
Name Server: ns.nozonenet.com
Name Server: ns2.nozonenet.com
Status: ACTIVE
Updated Date: 2007-02-05
Creation Date: 2006-01-10
Expiration Date: 2008-01-10
-------------------------------
@1TXDA,
No I do not have any official confirmation they have for sure gone oob, out of business, but am 99.9% certain they have for after 7 days to be exact with no website and no redirect to their new website nor any information whatsoever as to there demise it does not take a rocket scientist to figure out there never coming back. Sad, but am afraid true. My dilemna and maybe it is hopeless is do you happen to have a phone number to call to confirm or deny this as I just came to know their product this past Friday, the last day their website was operational, and absolutely love their ft keyboard yet my tirl expires in 9 days and now there is no way to register it? Do you with the Athena Project have one I can buy from you or is it hopeless? Thanks, Kevin, remember me from the Polaris?

LTxda
18th January 2008, 07:45 PM
@1TXDA,
No I do not have any official confirmation they have for sure gone oob, out of business, but am 99.9% certain they have for after 7 days to be exact with no website and no redirect to their new website nor any information whatsoever as to there demise it does not take a rocket scientist to figure out there never coming back. Sad, but am afraid true. My dilemna and maybe it is hopeless is do you happen to have a phone number to call to confirm or deny this as I just came to know their product this past Friday, the last day their website was operational, and absolutely love their ft keyboard yet my tirl expires in 9 days and now there is no way to register it? Do you with the Athena Project have one I can buy from you or is it hopeless? Thanks, Kevin, remember me from the Polaris?

I was given the software for the sole purpose of the Athena project by a Teksoft representative. They donated the full version of the software free of charge to the project. These are some great guys. Other than through their forum or this site, I have no way of getting a hold of them. I'm going to try to send a PM from this forum and see if they respond. They don't check them often since they resided on their own forum as the primary means of communication. I also think I have their e-mail address but with the domain down, that won't work.

radhoo
20th January 2008, 06:43 PM
Thanks everyone and keep it coming. This type of feedback is useful for future ROMs. :)

And also for the developers ;) I'm sure this kind of feedback helps a lot!

LTxda
20th January 2008, 07:01 PM
And also for the developers ;) I'm sure this kind of feedback helps a lot!

They`reeeeee baaaaaaaaackkkk YEA BABY!

eagle 1
21st January 2008, 02:58 AM
I think Fingertouch has a lot of potential, I like that is has several different keyboards available. It can be skinned, etc.

But the problem for me was that it covered up too much of the screen and did not always add scroll bars to allow access to the screen covered up by the keyboard. Other commercial keyboards seem to add the scroll bars to allow access to the screen.

I currently use resco keyboard and the hardware keyboard. I would try fingertouch again if it was upgraded to add scroll bars to more applications, etc.

xda-addict
21st January 2008, 09:37 AM
I think Fingertouch has a lot of potential, I like that is has several different keyboards available. It can be skinned, etc.

But the problem for me was that it covered up too much of the screen and did not always add scroll bars to allow access to the screen covered up by the keyboard. Other commercial keyboards seem to add the scroll bars to allow access to the screen.

I currently use resco keyboard and the hardware keyboard. I would try fingertouch again if it was upgraded to add scroll bars to more applications, etc.

I think the scroll bars are added by the OS, eg. each of the application windows may or may not draw their own scroll bars.

kevinrirvine
21st January 2008, 06:08 PM
As I first reported 10 days ago and thankfully I was wrong Teksoft is ALIVE AND WELL AFTER ALL for their website down for 9 days came back yesterday morning. I WAS SO HAPPY AND STILL AM!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FYI: A New version of Fingertouch will be released "soon" according to an e-mail I received from George this morning which I am sure will make all regular F.T. owner's very happy and maybe even get some new people to try this best of the breed sip keyboard. Thanks, Kevin