Polaris Project Rom Documention

[Pawel062]

Hi everyone,

We would like to show what we currently have planned for the first polaris cooked rom. If u would like to change or add/remove please reply with your suggestions. If we can't decide on a specific item then we will create a poll.


BASE ROM (meaning both ROMs will have the following in common)

Items Removed:

- customer feedback
- auto update
- catalog
- sqm
- guava bubbles and windows mobile green
- ring-vision and ring-windowsmobile
- nature video
- Alouette.mid,arial,ding,dogbark,bolero,capri,Die Zauberflote,Flight of the bumblebee,halloween,happy,London Bridge, Mozart Alla Turca, Pizzi-cato Polka, Pour Elise, ringer 1-4, telephone ring 1-3, trout, x-mas song
- ia zip
- cyberon voice speed dial
- htc task mananger aka x button

Items Changed/Added/Upgraded:

- .netcf upgraded to 3.5
- internet explorer search uses google
- live search today plugin uses google
- added action screen
- added flash lite player
- added home sprint plugin
- added pk programs(dotfred taskmananger+regedit,file dialog changer, gloss black bars, magic ss, mmcmobilefinder, mobilesecretary,nbstatce,putty, sms notifier, and vncview)
- added pocket rar
- added softkey app
- added tcpmp 0.81
- added total commander
- added vxUtil
- added WkTask
- added SRS WOW HD
- added touch calculator skin
- added voice command build 18533(might be in test builds only)
- added own customizations(own tsk, -PK text after build numbers)
- added own reg edits xml(lunar calendar, in call volume change sounds removed, basehue 158, own speed tweaks, long name prefix= 3G, time from newtwork, auto selection of bands, own best a2dp settings, gpsphoto enabled, increase cube fps, increase touchflo sensitivity, changed save path of camera from DCIM to My Documents)

To-Do List:

- add own version in oemversion
- add own welcomehead
- add srs wow hd after alpha rom is tested
- add 5 tab home reg edit after alpha rom is tested for cube/touchflo version
- create non touchflo/cube version after alpha is tested
- add gps photo reg edit after alpha is tested
- add faster cube reg edits after alpha is tested
- add touch calculator after alpha is tested
- add touchflo sensitivity reg edits after alpha is tested
- add reg edit to change camera default path from DCMIN/100Media to My Documents after alpha is tested

ROM#1 (items unique to ROM#1)

- touchflo and touchflo cube included
- 5 tab htc home with contacts tab disabled because of cube having contact side

ROM#2 (items unique to ROM#2)

- no touchflo or touchflo cube
- 6 tab htc home with contacts tab enabled

BTW to do list is really only for me but this is a documention I created for myself to keep track of what i am doing ;)

[LTxda]

Hi everyone,

We would like to show what we currently have planned for the first polaris cooked rom. If u would like to change or add/remove please reply with your suggestions. If we can't decide on a specific item then we will create a poll.


BASE ROM (meaning both ROMs will have the following in common)

Items Removed:

- customer feedback
- auto update
- catalog
- sqm
- guava bubbles and windows mobile green
- ring-vision and ring-windowsmobile
- nature video
- Alouette.mid,arial,ding,dogbark,bolero,capri,Die Zauberflote,Flight of the bumblebee,halloween,happy,London Bridge, Mozart Alla Turca, Pizzi-cato Polka, Pour Elise, ringer 1-4, telephone ring 1-3, trout, x-mas song
- ia zip
- cyberon voice speed dial
- htc task mananger aka x button

Items Changed/Added/Upgraded:

- .netcf upgraded to 3.5
- internet explorer search uses google
- live search today plugin uses google
- added action screen
- added flash lite player
- added home sprint plugin
- added pk programs(dotfred taskmananger+regedit,file dialog changer, gloss black bars, magic ss, mmcmobilefinder, mobilesecretary,nbstatce,putty, sms notifier, and vncview)
- added pocket rar
- added softkey app
- added tcpmp 0.81
- added total commander
- added vxUtil
- added WkTask
- added SRS WOW HD
- added touch calculator skin
- added voice command build 18533(might be in test builds only)
- added own customizations(own tsk, -PK text after build numbers)
- added own reg edits xml(lunar calendar, in call volume change sounds removed, basehue 158, own speed tweaks, long name prefix= 3G, time from newtwork, auto selection of bands, own best a2dp settings, gpsphoto enabled, increase cube fps, increase touchflo sensitivity, changed save path of camera from DCIM to My Documents)

To-Do List:

- add own version in oemversion
- add own welcomehead
- add srs wow hd after alpha rom is tested
- add 5 tab home reg edit after alpha rom is tested for cube/touchflo version
- create non touchflo/cube version after alpha is tested
- add gps photo reg edit after alpha is tested
- add faster cube reg edits after alpha is tested
- add touch calculator after alpha is tested
- add touchflo sensitivity reg edits after alpha is tested
- add reg edit to change camera default path from DCMIN/100Media to My Documents after alpha is tested

ROM#1 (items unique to ROM#1)

- touchflo and touchflo cube included
- 5 tab htc home with contacts tab disabled because of cube having contact side

ROM#2 (items unique to ROM#2)

- no touchflo or touchflo cube
- 6 tab htc home with contacts tab enabled

BTW to do list is really only for me but this is a documention I created for myself to keep track of what i am doing ;)


Now THAT's progress!

Let's get your suggestions/recommendations/requests in and keep this thing moving. I love it when we pick up speed!!! :D

[oppaunke]

sounds nice to me :D

maybe some app for the camera?
especially i'm a bit disappointed with the video recording function... the framerate is compareable with Crysis on a 386' system ^^
hope that the video drivers come out soon... (someone needs to kick htc&quallcom's asses)

[energy59]

Oxios apps, is more agree, Hybernate and Close Apps....for add, remove all image stored is unneccessary... thanks:D

[sbran]

Since I'm the unfortunate (previous) owner of a stolen Artemis I strongly believe that all cookers should include an anti-theft software as part of the cooked ROM(s). There are several pieces of free software out there, even exploiting GPS for tracking down the vicious marauders. I was planning to install a s/w to my device but I kept postponing it for later and later until the unfortunate happened.
R/

[batumulia]

I second that! It would really help to push back the numerous thefts of stolen mobile phones!

[sean20357]

Could someone tell me, why you would include all the software in the ROM instead of keeping the ROM small and basic, and let everyone install, what they find necessary?

Cheers, sean

[spellshaper]

Could someone tell me, why you would include all the software in the ROM instead of keeping the ROM small and basic, and let everyone install, what they find necessary?

Cheers, sean

Agree even if I dont have Polaris (yet), I think some "little lite basic" basic ROM :D with only factory programs in new versions etc or maybe even less programs (without some duplicate or unnecessary ones) with priority on high performance (system tweaks, registry changes or program tweaks) will be also great.

Sometimes "Less is more!" ;-)

[brrrt]

I don't have a polaris yet, but I've heard that the SMS doesn't have standard emoticons (just like forum emoticons or something) in it. I wonder if you could add those in as well? I think that a lot of people use those, but everybody forgets about it :D

[Pawel062]

these are only roms i am working on now. lite roms will come though. im listening to suggestions so keep them coming. once we have a bit more the team will decide what else to add into full. most likely if there are 2 programs on here with same purpose then all ur suggestions will be included.

[dcbehan]

I too would like a lite ROM (preferably 2 with/without Touch Flow version) or at least have any additional files (other than OS\Radio\etc. updates) uninstallable.

Thanks for all of your work on this.

db

[pippo74]

woow I did not wait for other!!!!!!!
Personally I think that the rom it must be fast therefore must contain the software necessary, leaving then the customer the choice to install other software thanks boys

[bluebee]

Can you include Google talk and yahoo messenger alone where we can do both chat and Talk. I am very much excited for this rom to be done..:):)

[Abbsta]

Just a question, not a request.

Is there a way of changing the white background in Programs, for example. All of the ROMs that I've seen have a white background like this. (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=356119)*

What I would like is something like this...

http://www.wm6themes.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/wm6t-melissatheuriau1.jpg

or even a different colour.

*warning: large screenshot.

[sgl9x]

I would like to see a Lite ROM with business oriented programs and an emphasis on performance.

Like the Q-mobile ROM for the TYTN II. IMHO

Great forum btw.

Best Regards and thanks for all your work on this.

[Pawel062]

Current Community Requests:
Lite Rom
Anti Theft Program(s)
Google Talk and Yahoo Messenger(hmm i dont know how many people use this. i can have in addons but i know u all have cabs for these anyway.)
SMS emotions(wont work out bc other end would have to support them)
Oxios apps, Hybernate and Close Apps



Please comment on these requests. tell us if u agree/disagree or would like to add. lite rom and anti theft program(s) are my #1 priority for this rom. the rest if people really request them or if they are real small(will look into this)

[Jackster]

I would opt for a lite rom with anti-theft software.

[Borizli]

I would opt for a lite rom with anti-theft software.
Me too.. and i would prefer different Cabs for easy customizing, but the thief should not have to put the anti-theft software himself after a hard-reset ;)

[ocram72]

Could someone tell me, why you would include all the software in the ROM instead of keeping the ROM small and basic, and let everyone install, what they find necessary?

Cheers, sean

I agree with this point.

[ulischultz]

Will you cook a german rom also? That would be great!

[reteb]

My vote is for light and fast

[tenacious_rik]

a coocked rom should be modifying the page pool and speeding up the fucker. keeping things simple.... why whould you make a rom with a bunch of crap removed and more crap put on..... and if none of you want touch flo why buy a touch branded fone? ther are plenty more qvga pda phones with 256 rom and 128 ram and aprox 400Mhz, and guess what they aint branded touch meaning no touch flow.

[Pawel062]

a coocked rom should be modifying the page pool and speeding up the fucker. keeping things simple.... why whould you make a rom with a bunch of crap removed and more crap put on..... and if none of you want touch flo why buy a touch branded fone? ther are plenty more qvga pda phones with 256 rom and 128 ram and aprox 400Mhz, and guess what they aint branded touch meaning no touch flow.

who says pagepool wont be modified. i didnt put my rom on a device yet or even played with pagepool on polaris. i will very soon though. there are different cooked roms. some are loaded with tools and some are vanilla.

i have expirence from a real expensive buisness orientated device the athena. why do i say real buisness orientated? well at that price point u have mostly people buying it for buisness to do power point presentations and really using the buisness side of the device. I am not saying the polaris will not be for buisness but many more people will get it for its other features like the camera, touchflo, video playback than they did the athena.

the apps i put in were requested by these people to be put in because they use them. i know other buisness people with the polaris will do the same. i am making though a vanilla as i know people with qvga devices like those.

on athena a vanilla makes no sense bc the device is partitioned so a smaller os.nb will not give u more storage.

i will have a rom true to the type of cooking u say. it will be a vanilla rom with just anti theft tool. it might come out a few days after the full rom bc i will be trying to make it as vanilla as possible.

[tenacious_rik]

Funny how you said you making it for the people who want power...... but you didn’t really do my statement justice about there being other devices that have the same performance if not close to it.... and yet they don’t have touchflo. What is the point the touch then u spend so much money on a device simply because it a touch branded phone all it is software.
I hope you realise if your Rom goes wrong people are going to want your head on a stick... regardless if its user error.... all your doing is installing crap because other people are too lazy to do it, and crap is what it literally is. How and your asking for donations too, that’s just a con. You are publically announcing to people you want it to buy the device. Why not test it on your device? Or haven’t you got one? And if you’re that confident about your ice cream flavoured Rom why not just releases it. I mean if people are going to jeopardise their phones there’s nothing like using an untested Rom to get the blood pumping.
And since when have business functionality required tcpmp and HD audio and flash player? Hummmm, I wasn’t aware business folk had a need to load their phones up with crap like movies and audio for the long commutes on the train.

[LTxda]

a coocked rom should be modifying the page pool and speeding up the fucker. keeping things simple.... why whould you make a rom with a bunch of crap removed and more crap put on..... and if none of you want touch flo why buy a touch branded fone? ther are plenty more qvga pda phones with 256 rom and 128 ram and aprox 400Mhz, and guess what they aint branded touch meaning no touch flow.

First of all, you need to watch your tone before you get banned from this forum and things get nasty. We are all working together here and your tone doesn't come across too friendly.

That said, YOU ALONE will not make the decisions for the ROM results. This ROM is a community effort. It is going to appease the majority. You telling PK how a ROM should be cooked doesn't sound too smart considering his experience and skill. He's one of the top cooks not only for the Athena but one of the most skilled cooks on the forum period. He not only has the skills but the backing up some very experienced and talented individuals.

The project WILL consist of two ROMs. What those ROMs will consist of is up to the community and the majority vote. That's how things work here. I will say this again, PK was approached by the members of the Polaris community to recreate the successes he's had with other devices and that's the challenge he's accepted. Considering this, in order to be successful to the MAJORITY, there are systems in place that must be followed. That's how we work.

Now don't get me wrong, I'm not saying your opinion is not being listened to. Your opinion is just as valuable as a Polaris community member as all the others...but understand one thing that we've learned exceptionally well...we nor anyone for that fact can make everyone happy. Just life.

And if someone wants anyone's head, they can bring it up directly with me.

Let's keep this peaceful, respectful, logical and friendly. That's what we're all here to do anyhow...have fun, enhance our devices and accomplish things that HTC and Microsoft failed to accomplish. The making of a superior ROM!

I welcome the communities comments on this as I would like to hear how others feel about this. :)

[Olipro]

I hope you realise if your Rom goes wrong people are going to want your head on a stick...

I hope you realise you're an unspeakable idiot.

generally speaking... when you have a device, since you are obviously able to see it it works, you don't release it broken...

Furthermore, your entire post indicates you essentially don't have a fucking clue in general.

[victoradjei]

Oli, I can see you are back in style :eek::rolleyes:

[LTxda]

Oli, I can see you are back in style :eek::rolleyes:

Yea but this one was necessary.

[tenacious_rik]

I don’t how you get a tone from text? I wasn’t aware people read with emotion.
anyway you still ignored the other things I’ve been saying and have concentrated on your own propaganda trying to justify everything your doing...... and if your friend is really so good why doesn’t he work for HTC themselves and large third party commercial company specialising in this?
You seem to ignore my last post and just babbled on trying to continue to defend your feeble requests for money. Then again it’s an intelligent con I guess if people are stupid enough to give you guy’s money then shame on them.
But why must you persist and not reply with an answer any of my other points. You just ignore them. Isn’t that a defeatist approach that will cause others to partially side with me in some ways....?

Sorry but my idea of a cooked rom is removing all the shit that’s not needed like proprietary software and install huge tweets and mod the way the device works..... so far according to your documentation all that’s been done is the removal or crap and the installation of crap then your partner passes off a shabby excuse about it being business orientated yet to those of us that are conscious can see "business" men need these maybe on their rare occasion that (s)he may need to view the new company, you didn’t even attempt to use that as an excuse.

anyway what about having a Polaris do either of you or any other members involved in your "project" have one or are you really just trying to con us into buying one for you lot?

[tenacious_rik]

All of you seem to be idiots your selves. I doubt many of you have qualifications in this sector so you seem to be conceited C**ts with a lack knowledge, infact are any of you grads for this specific sector are just young trash that think they know it all because they know how to use the device better than their technologically illegitimate guardians?
and how many of you own a moded pc or just generally fiddle about with computers or xbox's and ps3's yano so on.....
see the best thing is you can never completely ban a single person as its just soo easy to get another ID :D

[LTxda]

I don’t how you get a tone from text? I wasn’t aware people read with emotion.
anyway you still ignored the other things I’ve been saying and have concentrated on your own propaganda trying to justify everything your doing...... and if your friend is really so good why doesn’t he work for HTC themselves and large third party commercial company specialising in this?
You seem to ignore my last post and just babbled on trying to continue to defend your feeble requests for money. Then again it’s an intelligent con I guess if people are stupid enough to give you guy’s money then shame on them.
But why must you persist and not reply with an answer any of my other points. You just ignore them. Isn’t that a defeatist approach that will cause others to partially side with me in some ways....?

Sorry but my idea of a cooked rom is removing all the shit that’s not needed like proprietary software and install huge tweets and mod the way the device works..... so far according to your documentation all that’s been done is the removal or crap and the installation of crap then your partner passes off a shabby excuse about it being business orientated yet to those of us that are conscious can see "business" men need these maybe on their rare occasion that (s)he may need to view the new company, you didn’t even attempt to use that as an excuse.

anyway what about having a Polaris do either of you or any other members involved in your "project" have one or are you really just trying to con us into buying one for you lot?

Right now i'm just going to ignore everything you say. Take care. :cool:

I do have one thing to say...since you know sooooo much about ROMs and cooking ROMs and tweaking ROMs...and are such a big man...why not put your money where your mouth is and cook a ROM for everyone. Let's see how you do it bro and we'll go from there. This sound good to you? Let's not talk a big game...go ahead and prove it.

EDIT: Oh and one more thing...I understand your ignorance as you don't know me...but one thing you will learn about me...money is no object so no need to con anyone for any devices when I could quite literally purchase a device for every single member of this forum. And this you ignorant twit is no exaggeration by any means. Your continued misunderstanding and ignorant comments just keep showing this community what you're really made of. Keep digging....keep digging. LOL

[LTxda]

I agree with this point.

Thanks for your feedback. As previously explained, two ROMs will come out of this project and the majority will dictate what does and does not go into the ROMs.

Right now it's looking like a lite vanilla ROM with all the tweaks then also a business oriented ROM with the tweaks as well BUT before any work begins, we'll have both defined and approved by the majority of the members.

This sound logical to you guys?

[LTxda]

Just a question, not a request.

Is there a way of changing the white background in Programs, for example. All of the ROMs that I've seen have a white background like this. (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=356119)*

What I would like is something like this...

http://www.wm6themes.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/wm6t-melissatheuriau1.jpg

or even a different colour.

*warning: large screenshot.

You know it's funny you bring this up. I had the same question when we were working on the Athena Project ROMs. I figured it would be a nice touch to reverse the colors in applications where the font was white and background was black but we ran out of time and never went back to looking into this. Maybe we can pool our resources and look for a solution as a community. If we find the answer and the majority approves it, we might be able to cook it into the new ROM. How does this sound?

I do like your thinking ;-)

[psargent]

I don’t how you get a tone from text? I wasn’t aware people read with emotion.

Wow...It takes a really oblivious person to post a comment like this right below an angry-faced emoticon that he himself placed there! ;)

Guys, aside from the well taken point that a vanilla rom should be as vanilla as possible (and I have read that PK intends to offer this as an option,) I think these inflamitory posts should be wholeheartedly ignored. This guy has bearly gotten his feet wet here and he is posting like he owns the place!

Dude, you need to earn your stripes and contribute a little positivity to this forum before you can expect to have your opinion respected in any way, shape or form.

[Jimbo9]

I presume tenacious_rik is either very young or very stupid - or both. Listen chap - such language will not get you far in life. Your style provokes immediate repulsion - a well deserved one.
Whoever these guys are (I refer to ROM cooks) they are doing amazing job which I'd never be able to dream of. My decision to buy TC as soon as it will be available here is based very much on perspective of what is coming up from them.
If you can't act in a well behaved manner or help in any way, I don't see what you are doing here arguing with guys that know zillions more then you do or ever will. So - get life and leave people of good will to do their job. If community and it's rules are not for you - you are welcome to leave. ;)

[tenacious_rik]

oh ye and haha ur a funny man i am an idiot becuase clearly you didnt even qute the rest of my text about it being USER ERROR.....
and you can say its not possible even i have bricked a treo in my erly days
i even laughed an my friend for bricking his elf. all down to user error sitll didnt stop him cursing at the creators of the rom.

anyway atleast pretend to be real and wuote th whole thing instead of just using what u want makes you guys seem small.

[LTxda]

Can you include Google talk and yahoo messenger alone where we can do both chat and Talk. I am very much excited for this rom to be done..:):)

These can be included in the ROM if everyone wishes them to be or can just be included in the Addons as a CAB giving anyone who wants them the choice to install them. Sound good?

[LTxda]

I presume tenacious_rik is either very young or very stupid - or both. Listen chap - such language will not get you far in life. Your style provokes immediate repulsion - a well deserved one.
Whoever these guys are (I refer to ROM cooks) they are doing amazing job which I'd never be able to dream of. My decision to buy TC as soon as it will be available here is based very much on perspective of what is coming up from them.
If you can't act in a well behaved manner or help in any way, I don't see what you are doing here arguing with guys that know zillions more then you do or ever will. So - get life and leave people of good will to do their job. If community and it's rules are not for you - you are welcome to leave. ;)

Well he just proved all of my points. Don't you love it when people do the dirty work for you?

Anyhow, we're very close to getting the first device for the project. I can't wait to get a beta out and have people start testing. :)

[LTxda]

I just thought of something good, I hope. :)

The community can help by finding or recommending vendors that can sell the device to us at a good price but make sure the vendor is established so we can rely on them in the event a warranty issue should arise.

EDIT: Right now we're looking at Mobile Planet. Also, one member msg'd me letting me know he could get the device from Mobile Planet at a discount. This is great news...any other resourceful individuals out there?

[Olipro]

so you seem to be conceited C**ts with a lack knowledge

Pot. Kettle. Black.

Your couldn't even hope to begin to comprehend what I know buddy... others might, but you seem to lack the capacity, so quite frankly, fuck off.

[tenacious_rik]

Well my my all the "profesionals" are coming out of the wood work.
Typical though you tend to find that scum and other such fungi based shit sticks together....

Anyway you pretentious thicko why don’t you purchase one for every member why don’t you fund you own project???? why don’t you do all that and post all of the on geekbrief as a little way of showing me up????
Why it is all chavs seem to say they can do it all.... you’re the one that’s lying not me.... I know Microsoft products pretty well and if it’s not broken we don’t fix it, its less administrative effort, but you guys probably don’t work in the sector and watch whole servers go down because a junior admin had the god complex. Like you guy’s. what makes you think you can do better than the people that are employed by htc….
If your all so god why don’t you go out and get real jobs instead of sitting here taking shit from me?

[Olipro]

why don’t you do all that and post all of the on geekbrief as a little way of showing me up????

you're doing a pretty good job of that yourself

If your all so god why don’t you go out and get real jobs instead of sitting here taking shit from me?

Because we enjoy doing it as a hobby you fuckwit... also, your spelling is atrocious.

you think you can do better than the people that are employed by htc….

We can, and do, you fuckhead... the fact you know comparatively FUCK ALL about the underlying technology certainly makes you least qualified to comment

[LTxda]

Thanks to all of you who provided your suggestions, wants, needs, etc.

We're getting closer to getting a device and I would like to ask for everyone to put more effort into thinking about what you really want from these ROMs. We have good feedback but I know we can do better.

Remember, this is YOUR ROM. :)

[tenacious_rik]

Olipro I think you want to use the word ability instead of capacity.
See I’m not sure if you know but capacity is used in relation to size.....

Wow all and one unite against me. I don’t know what’s worst.... you lot lying about how much you know trying to sound big or you thinking it will affect others?

Note I haven’t made any claims to what I know and don’t know only to what industry I work in.

It’s fairly entertaining. All of you just seem to want to prove how small you are.
At least my massive ego doest encapsulate me from know the size of enormous head

and understand that quotes are the only way you can really fight back and defend yourselves. The sheer fact it isn't a hobby is it? if its a hobby why do you need other to fund you little project in your other thread? especialy with Mr. Money Bags saying he can afford it all.

[Olipro]

Olipro I think you want to use the word ability instead of capacity.
See I’m not sure if you know but capacity is used in relation to size.....

Wow yanks and chavs unite against me. I don’t know what’s worst.... you lot lying about how much you know trying to sound big or you thinking it will affect others?

Note I haven’t made any claims to what I know and don’t know only to what industry I work in.

It’s fairly entertaining. All of you just seem to want to prove how small you are.

you're ATTACKING OUR ABILITIES, HOW DID YOU EXPECT US TO RESPOND, YOU UTTER FUCKING PLANK.

and as far as "lying about how much you know" goes... I'd say you're either someone who loves trolling, or who has a huge inferiority complex.

on second thoughts... perhaps both.

[LTxda]

you're ATTACKING OUR ABILITIES, HOW DID YOU EXPECT US TO RESPOND, YOU UTTER FUCKING PLANK.

and as far as "lying about how much you know" goes... I'd say you're either someone who loves trolling, or who has a huge inferiority complex.

on second thoughts... perhaps both.

ROTFL!

Too bad all of his posts are about to be deleted and his account banned as if though he never existed and this never happened. :D

[tenacious_rik]

I see Mr. Money bags hasn't stood up to my challenge of one-up-man-ship?

Careful you don’t want to flash to much cash about. You never know who might want to nick it there’s usually some poor scum lying about in groups because they can’t fight by themselves.

[tenacious_rik]

Ye I possibly might have both plus a huge ego but really what do you think you guys are doing???? Offending you abilities / skills????? Do you even have any to be offended about? I don’t see why you have gradually twisted this so it looks like I’m saying you shouldn't do this... essentially all I have said is that you should leave it up to people to install what software/apps they want, and you shouldn't be charging them. So in essence all a cooked rom should be is a bunch a tweaks enabling people to keep their devices fast
So I see u dabble in a bit of psychology too...... wow you seem to know everything? Shame you don’t know what words to use. I like how you only quote what you want.

And who on earth will delete my account.... it’s easy to make another you can’t stop me or anyone else, u talk as if your an account moderator?

[tenacious_rik]

aww is no one going to talk anymore? Did mummy tell them to ignore the bully?

Just when I was starting to have fun.

[Abbsta]

You know it's funny you bring this up. I had the same question when we were working on the Athena Project ROMs. I figured it would be a nice touch to reverse the colors in applications where the font was white and background was black but we ran out of time and never went back to looking into this. Maybe we can pool our resources and look for a solution as a community. If we find the answer and the majority approves it, we might be able to cook it into the new ROM. How does this sound?

I do like your thinking ;-)

Cheers and sounds good. Quite frankly, I'm surprised that I had a response as I thought I was talking bollox in the sense that it is an OS limitation of some sort. But since it is possible to do it in the Program Menu, I don't see why not. I just hope it's matter of changing attributes of some properties than ...if everyone thinks it's worth pursuing.

Re: ROM
I'm new to this platform and learning as I go along so I can't really say what I would like in the new ROM. Perhaps something like ccleaner? Anyway, I've seen the Athena project and was impressed enough to trust your collective choice.

[dfields]

I just thought of something good, I hope. :)

The community can help by finding or recommending vendors that can sell the device to us at a good price but make sure the vendor is established so we can rely on them in the event a warranty issue should arise.

EDIT: Right now we're looking at Mobile Planet. Also, one member msg'd me letting me know he could get the device from Mobile Planet at a discount. This is great news...any other resourceful individuals out there?

Itxda - I got mine from On the Go Soltuions. Prompt quick service, but looks like they've sold out their inventory and are awaiting more stock.

Dave

[manaaa]

does someone already tried mobile justice as anti theft tool ?? - its free and works on the artemis
http://sourceforge.net/projects/mjustice

and second.. someone tried iSecretary ?? - the first generic answering machine for windows mobile
http://www.isecretary.net/ initial release is free


if the 2 apps are working fine and you think its useable, then vote here to cook it in.
i personally cant test these yet, as my device can be ordered in march (contract ends)

just my 2 cents
bb

[LTxda]

Itxda - I got mine from On the Go Soltuions. Prompt quick service, but looks like they've sold out their inventory and are awaiting more stock.

Dave

Just a heads up about OnTheGoSolutions.com...they sold me my Hermes. That said, their staff didn't know jack about the devices, I had to ask them for the bonus CD, they hesitate whenever you need a replacement as they promise a temporary device while yours gets repaired and they need someone there that knows this market better. My Hermes was a leaked pre-production and while it took me and a couple of others here to narrow down the serial numbers, OnTheGoSolutions.com didn't know what was going on. Thank goodness for our own resourcefulness to get this figured out. This was all due to the screen but that plagued some Hermes models, etc.

Not very impressed with that company and will never buy from them again...even if I have to spend a little more.

Also, in watching their prices over time...it seems they are always more expensive. At the time we were buying Athena's for the Athena Project, they were still selling those devices for over $1200 while we purchased them elsewhere for approx $800-900. I just think they need to get more in tune with this industry especially since they focus on these products.

[LTxda]

does someone already tried mobile justice as anti theft tool ?? - its free and works on the artemis
http://sourceforge.net/projects/mjustice

Manaaa,

This is a great suggestion. I haven't tried it yet but have heard of it. I'll give it a test and see how it goes. I'll test it on several devices and see if I can find any bugs...if not I don't see why this can't be in the ROM unless we have objections and this would then go to a poll/vote. Keep these great recommendations coming bro!


and second.. someone tried iSecretary ?? - the first generic answering machine for windows mobile
http://www.isecretary.net/ initial release is free

I saw this one also. Haven't tried it either but we'll get it tested. How long have you been using this and what is your experience with it? Great, good, or just an okay program? Man, love your recommendations!


if the 2 apps are working fine and you think its useable, then vote here to cook it in.
i personally cant test these yet, as my device can be ordered in march (contract ends)

just my 2 cents
bb

Do you have any other Windows Mobile devices you can test these on?

I'll try to start testing the first app immediately. If anyone else wants to jump in and help that would be great. I'll test it on an Athena, Kaiser, Hermes, Wizard and Universal. Need someone to test on Polaris of course but if it goes well on these other devices it should go well on Polaris.

People keep these great suggestions coming. We need to get more stuff to test as a community now that the donations are almost there to purchase the first device.

Waiting to hear from everyone and thanks!

[Pawel062]

tenacious_rik has been banned thanx to chris aka midget. i believe he also got a ip ban so we shouldnt see him around here anymore.

thanx for all the suggestions. keep them coming. we are today going to look at purchasing a orbit 2 from germany for olipro and cmonex. they will get a hardspl and sim unlocker done. that will give a chance for those who have polaris in another language and want a wwe rom on it. it will also allow others to purchase polaris sim locked at a cheeper price.

i also believe i will get one from german and ship it to olipro then he will ship it to me. the device shipped to oli is 450 euro which is around 650 bucks. thats cheeper than mobileplanet and i am starting to like the 02 version. shipping from oli's shouldnt be too bad then here.

i believe we will be able to get the first device(olis) about 50 bucks cheeper than the old price for mobile planet was. mine should be shipped to my door about same price as mobileplanet was before. currently its at 735usd last time i checked.

[manaaa]

Manaaa,

This is a great suggestion. I haven't tried it yet but have heard of it. I'll give it a test and see how it goes. I'll test it on several devices and see if I can find any bugs...if not I don't see why this can't be in the ROM unless we have objections and this would then go to a poll/vote. Keep these great recommendations coming bro!

kewl ^^



I saw this one also. Haven't tried it either but we'll get it tested. How long have you been using this and what is your experience with it? Great, good, or just an okay program? Man, love your recommendations!

Do you have any other Windows Mobile devices you can test these on?



the orbit 2 will be my first ppc =D
wanted to buy an artemis when i registrated here, to check out devices bugs. finally the the htc's roadmap presented the polaris/orbit2 .... and im still patient ^^ .. 5 weeks then its mine.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=357635&highlight=isecretary

or more updated:
http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=2411&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1#more2411


People keep these great suggestions coming. We need to get more stuff to test as a community now that the donations are almost there to purchase the first device.

Waiting to hear from everyone and thanks!


np, im a silent reader yet. no ppc experience yet ..
im an technical informatics student and i ll try to cook a german rom, if its not too difficult. i helped Michael Mossal a little bit to translate the .mui files for tom_codons german b&b release. (yes, without having a device... no use for me. but i liked it ^^)

i hope i answered your questions in detail *rofl*
fck off, delete this post ^^

laters :)

[t_rik]

tenacious_rik has been banned thanx to chris aka midget. i believe he also got a ip ban so we shouldnt see him around here anymore.

thanx for all the suggestions. keep them coming. we are today going to look at purchasing a orbit 2 from germany for olipro and cmonex. they will get a hardspl and sim unlocker done. that will give a chance for those who have polaris in another language and want a wwe rom on it. it will also allow others to purchase polaris sim locked at a cheeper price.

i also believe i will get one from german and ship it to olipro then he will ship it to me. the device shipped to oli is 450 euro which is around 650 bucks. thats cheeper than mobileplanet and i am starting to like the 02 version. shipping from oli's shouldnt be too bad then here.

i believe we will be able to get the first device(olis) about 50 bucks cheeper than the old price for mobile planet was. mine should be shipped to my door about same price as mobileplanet was before. currently its at 735usd last time i checked.


erm ye about that..... I'm Back

im not going to bother with an elaborate message explaining how it was dones that something a bond villan would do.... and frankly... you midget man with the midget brain obviously didnt know that IP bans only work in the IP address is static. haha What a cunt.
anyway just a little message to you guys to say i really to have many more account weather i decide to be descreate about these well that up to me you never know i could be the next person who just pretends to ignore this post and act "as if"

Tenacious rik.

or maybe its mike or alberto i might not even be male.
WOW thats spooky you guys really dont know who i am and you cant stop me.

EDIT: this isn't over.

[Olipro]

WOW thats spooky you guys really dont know who i am and you cant stop me.

EDIT: this isn't over.

well not quite... we can just set a range block since your ISP will have an allocated set of IPs to assign.

of course then, you've got to go down the route of finding proxy servers to run through to circumvent it, in which case it becomes cat and mouse... however, since there's more mods than the one of you, I'd say the odds of you tiring of the exercise first is greater.

find something better to do with your time you idiotic child.

[rockscientist01]

common guys!!! I just cant believe, how so well-educated and skillful developers (yes.. an prolly rich too, and handsome...) like you guys seem to be actually deal with this guy!!! I mean while reading this thread i just skip his posts. What does you keep from doing the same?

Anyways...

A lite ROM including:
TouchFlo
TouchCube
stuff you need for the cam
the FM radio and so on,

but minus:
messenger
audio manager (not the audio boost though)
feedback tool... stuff like that.

including the reg tweaks for video cache and performance stuff..

hows that sound?


AO

[LTxda]

common guys!!! I just cant believe, how so well-educated and skillful developers (yes.. an prolly rich too, and handsome...) like you guys seem to be actually deal with this guy!!! I mean while reading this thread i just skip his posts. What does you keep from doing the same?

Anyways...

A lite ROM including:
TouchFlo
TouchCube
stuff you need for the cam
the FM radio and so on,

but minus:
messenger
audio manager (not the audio boost though)
feedback tool... stuff like that.

including the reg tweaks for video cache and performance stuff..

hows that sound?


AO

Hence I haven't replied. I've actually started feeling sorry for him. And I felt bad for replying like I did. I felt like I was picking on someone weaker or like someone with a disability. That's not good to pick on others with a problem or are handicapped so I stopped. Still feel bad though. :o

These are great suggestions. We'll add them to the ongoing list. Pretty soon we're going to ask everyone to get involved in the finalization of the list so we can narrow down exactly what's going to happen with these ROMs. You'll see a post when we're ready to do this. Meanwhile, keep the recommendations coming.

One I would like to recommend adding for the business user is one called Call Calendar. This one I use, as I'm a heavy business user, because it logs every call that comes in or goes out from my Athena to my calendar. Pretty handy, for me at least.

[rockscientist01]

suggestion for a lite rom:

removed:
- customer feedback
- auto update
- catalog
- sqm
- guava bubbles and windows mobile green
- ring-vision and ring-windowsmobile
- nature video
- Alouette.mid,arial,ding,dogbark,bolero,capri,Die Zauberflote,Flight of the bumblebee,halloween,happy,London Bridge, Mozart Alla Turca, Pizzi-cato Polka, Pour Elise, ringer 1-4, telephone ring 1-3, trout, x-mas song
- ia zip
- cyberon voice speed dial
- sample pics
- MESSENGER !!!
- INTERNET EXPLORER !!!
dont remove the htc task mananger aka x button


just my 2c...

AO

[LTxda]

suggestion for a lite rom:

removed:
- customer feedback
- auto update
- catalog
- sqm
- guava bubbles and windows mobile green
- ring-vision and ring-windowsmobile
- nature video
- Alouette.mid,arial,ding,dogbark,bolero,capri,Die Zauberflote,Flight of the bumblebee,halloween,happy,London Bridge, Mozart Alla Turca, Pizzi-cato Polka, Pour Elise, ringer 1-4, telephone ring 1-3, trout, x-mas song
- ia zip
- cyberon voice speed dial
- sample pics

dont remove the htc task mananger aka x button


just my 2c...

AO

First, thanks for formatting it like you did. Makes it easier to integrate into our list. :)

One suggestion in regards to removing the HTC Task Manager is a replacement with WKTask. We found, on our other devices that this is awesome and is more useful. Give it a try, go google it and see what you think. I was using Magic Button, also free, but once I tried WKTask...I just had to switch.

Cyberon will most likely be removed but included in the addons so anyone that really wants it can install it. :)

[wonderiuy]

I prefer a clean and fast ROM with a bunch of cab to download and install upon every1 needs

[JulianL]

Before I carry on let me try to prevent any bad feeling by saying that I'm not criticising any individual poster but rather an overall approach regarding the Lite ROM that seems to be emerging here that I really can't see working.

If we get lots of posts of the form "I'd really like a Lite ROM plus features <x>, <y> and <z>", and if everyone's <x>, <y> and <z> are different, then what do you do? Pick the three/five/how-ever-many extra features with the most votes? Create the superset of all requested features in which case the ROM probably isn't light anymore?

What I really hope will happen is to create a truly Lite ROM with everything stripped out that isn't necessary for the basic device functioning, e.g. no File Explorer at all (why do I want one if I'm going to install Resco Explorer?). Is a media player required for playing ringtones or for some other basic functioning of the OS? If not then no media player either; add your own one of choice.

Then of course you'll need cabs for everything missed out so that people can add back the bits they want and, since people would probably be installing a lot of cabs to add in stuff, some sort of tool to make it easy to define the cabs you want and then add them all in one go would be really useful. OK, even with this it would probably be tedious, but hopefully you only do this once every year or 6 months and it is the only way to get a really Lite ROM.

The only exception I could see to the above philosophy would be an anti-Theft feature (which personally I don't want but I appreciate why some do); this has to be built into the ROM in case the device is hard reset and you don't want to need the thief to re-install that particular cab for you!

- Julian

[Johny1fin]

Hi,
I will be getting an Orbit 2 when it coms out, hopefully within two weeks.
I am not normally fussy about specifying to what should be in a ROM as there are several cooks. As this device is so new, so new in fact that few of us have it, there are not many cooks, so we will have to make do with what is available.

I don't believe that we should push too much as has recently been the case as this does not help 'the cause' at all and may produce less cooks not more.

So I am perfectly happy to accept anything knowing the skills within the 'project' will do a good job. It will probably be better than what is supplied given that HTC cook to the lowest common denominator.

I won't donate and then ask for a ROM which is more specific to my requirements as I don't think thats what donations are for. I think they are to ensure that we have some cooks at all and hopefully encourage more so we can select ROMs to our own liking.

I do have a question the the new Orbit 2. Given that it does have more space, does the norm of using this space affect performance? Is that one reason to have a better and faster CPU?
Sorry, thats two questions. This would influence the number of apps installed versus the desired or acceptable performance. Fastest is not my goal but a balance is OK.

I appreciate that some if not most require vanilla but I am happy to have more and test the performance. If I am not happy I could wait for a vanilla or put the original back.

That's another question -
Will the original be available as I don't think I would install a cooked ROM unless I could revert back to original?

[Rudegar]

Documention is sadly the developers worst enemy

if there is Documention then if the developer happen to get run over
by a steamroller the project dont die with him

sadly making Documention is just baiting steamrollers all over
and it's a challange they are more then happy to take on ;) :P

[Pawel062]

common guys!!! I just cant believe, how so well-educated and skillful developers (yes.. an prolly rich too, and handsome...) like you guys seem to be actually deal with this guy!!! I mean while reading this thread i just skip his posts. What does you keep from doing the same?

Anyways...

A lite ROM including:
TouchFlo
TouchCube
stuff you need for the cam
the FM radio and so on,

but minus:
messenger
audio manager (not the audio boost though)
feedback tool... stuff like that.

including the reg tweaks for video cache and performance stuff..

hows that sound?


AO

why u think i been pretty quiet?:)

[Pawel062]

Documention is sadly the developers worst enemy

if there is Documention then if the developer happen to get run over
by a steamroller the project dont die with him

sadly making Documention is just baiting steamrollers all over
and it's a challange they are more then happy to take on ;) :P

true but i want to see what people like to have in this rom. the documentation really is what i have in my athena rom. i dont know what the community here wants so i created the documentation to see what people want. in athena when i started cooking there was a suggestion thread.

instead of making one of those with redundant things i made a documentation thread with peoples suggestions on what to add or delete. i think it causes less posts and more different answers. i dont know if other will agree but its pretty successful.

[Pawel062]

i hope i dont anger too much but i agree with the person above. the lite rom will be as light as i can get it while its still stable. then there will be addon cabs to get back what was removed.

[NetrunnerAT]

I have edit the Kaiser ROM Kitchen and change HTC ROM Tool!

It work very good. Possible it works with Polaris.

DL this Version -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334680 and edit "htcrt_devices.ini"

[Rudegar]

"i hope i dont anger too much but i agree with the person above."

one should never fear anger for having an openion
people here repect diversity and diff point of view :)

[LTxda]

"i hope i dont anger too much but i agree with the person above."

one should never fear anger for having an openion
people here repect diversity and diff point of view :)

Well spoken bro.

[Pawel062]

"i hope i dont anger too much but i agree with the person above."

one should never fear anger for having an openion
people here repect diversity and diff point of view :)

hehe forgot the anyone. very true though. just this rom isnt for me but for the people so u want to make as many people happy as possible.

[manaaa]

@ltxda


you tried mobile justice and/or iSecretary on the polaris/other devices?

[rockscientist01]

Hi ppl!

Although im kinda new to this "cooking", I really favor the idea of Johny1fin!
There is no better option then stripping the ROM as far as possible and then providing all the good stuff as an add-on...
I just dunno if this takes way more effort for the "chefs" to do then just finish the "dish"... How would that work practically? You post a ROM for download and then some 50 cabs as add-on?
Would that work? Because if you think it did, just do it this way:
Ever bought a car? They let you choose a model and you decide the color and what you want to add... sounds perfect to me!!!

Although I strongly have to emphasize:
I appreciate ANYTHING, you guys cook! Keep up the good work!
Kinda love you guys :p

Edit: Just read about MobileJustice: You definitely should consider building this in!

AO

[LTxda]

@ltxda


you tried mobile justice and/or iSecretary on the polaris/other devices?

Not yet...and one thing I/we forgot to mention.

This is to everyone...

Please do not recommend commercial apps. Only freeware. We cannot include commercial apps in the cooker ROM for obvious reasons. I forgot to mention this before. Remember, if you make a recommendation please ensure it's freeware.

[t_rik]

well not quite... we can just set a range block since your ISP will have an allocated set of IPs to assign.

of course then, you've got to go down the route of finding proxy servers to run through to circumvent it, in which case it becomes cat and mouse... however, since there's more mods than the one of you, I'd say the odds of you tiring of the exercise first is greater.

find something better to do with your time you idiotic child.

Wow a two day break, back at the office now though…. Could be bad news for you…

Well work is quite boring and we have a bet to see how long we can all keep this going its quite funny really…. And what you said is utter shit. Simply because there are now IP.V6 as well as the obvious IP.V4 currently with IP.V4 a class A address can cost in the range of millions... for one
So when it comes to ISP’s they tend to buy the cheaper ones class C and D, and they lease these out to you, now what you do with it is up to you. But usually they’ll let you keep it for 2 or 3 days before they give you another. Now I’m betting you only know about the IP classes and you have no idea how many there are per class.
Ok, well I’ll simplify things for you a class A address can have around 16 million machines on its network and only use the one address with a different host then NAT all of it through the company proxy appearing as only one IP address on the net. Basically from work I could RDP all the machines and bombard you with posts, all the samemessage THEORETICALLY, though there are many ethical complications if I or the other tenacious riks were to do this. Or I could RDP my machine at home and access the site through there using the dynamic IP always moving….. basically imagine a class C address being the opposite on a class A… 16 million.
do you really think just by putting a “range block” (btw I just have to laugh. Ha fucking ha) will really sort your problem out, IP.V4 are in shortage hence why they have to be kept dynamic. There are more machines in the world now than ever before, PDA’s, servers, laptops, the list goes on and on. Actually there are even cars with their own internetwork access. With the internet being a huge mesh network I doubt anyone could stop t.r.
but I applaud you for having and tried to prove you actually know something about IP addressing.
Anyway the wonders of IP.V6 means there are many more addresses to use.

Oh and once again your plan is inconsistent with the result you are searching for by blocking a range that an ISP uses means you would be blocking every person who is subscribed to that ISP and every other people who have internetwork connection provided by a third party using that ISP’s range for example “talk tlak” give you free broadband if you subscribe to their phone line, but alternately because the company isn’t big enough to pay for its own range it borrows some of another provide, such as SKY who alternatively Happened to borrow theirs from BT. And as we know MOST connections in the UK belong to BT. That’s a large amount of peeved people if you were to get you request.
Put it this way your efforts are wasted in trying to stop T.R. It’s always easier to hit a LARGE static target instead of one dynamic one. That’s why you never hear of home users having their machines attacked. Regardless of these so called “hackers” efforts, bank manager still sleep safe at night because their work laptop will never be touched by people that try.
You won’t stop me well T.R anyway. Oh well I guess the bet is still on.

[mserm]

I prefer a clean and fast ROM with a bunch of cab to download and install upon every1 needs


I agree , clean and fast and Original ROM

[tigerpower]

I am new to all this so correct me if I am wrong.

What is the difference of having a ROM with x,y,z program on it and a rom very lite and then install the cab x,y,z?
isn't it that if you hard reset the programs from the first solution will stay and not from the second?

in that case, Y not doing a very lite rom with anti theft tool (after hard rest it will still be there) and a list of all the "cool cabs".

Here are the programs I have actually (and I like (and are free)):
for GPS:
-Google Maps
-TrackMe (Uploads your position to Google earth)
-CheckPOint (for TomTom POI)

multimedia/Internet:
-Avot mV (search & stream video on Internet)
-TCPMP
-Picsel Browser (I don't know it can be considered free...)

utility:
-HTCActionScreen
-PocketCM
-Skype
-Touch Settings (buggy on TC)
-Metro (world wide public transport database)
-WMWifiRouter (transformes your 3G-ppc into a wireless router)
-SMSDRFixWM5 (fix for sms recipt)
-zoomSMS if possible without the blue bubbles (big popup with sms message even when locked)
-pocketPutty (ssh etc client)
-Wait-Animation (very sexy with HTC default theme)

soft installed that I use:
-Opera (not IE)
-Adobe Le
-Office
-TomTom
-QuickGPS
-camera
-HTC album
-Radio
-Clac with the cool skin
-comm Manager
-Java
-Internet shearing
-Sprite Backup
-Big start menu
-Encryption
-long END push button
-TouchFLO
and all the connection stuff.

I know It is a long list, But I am not asking for everything, It is just stuff I have and like.

Hope It helps

P.S. sorry for my terrible English

[sbran]

Since recently someone stole my Artemis which lacked any anti theft piece of sw I suggest that the cooked roms (both full and lite) include a freeware anti theft utility to protect our valuable smartphones. Which sw? I leave it to our capable cooks. No need to say that including such a sw in rom has obvious advantages in case of theft.
R/

[gnick666]

Since recently someone s...
If you read the first few postsm then you'll notice that they mentioned anti-theft software...
But I'm not convinced about the effectiveness of these software... The last one I tried was easily countered whith a Hard Reset...

[Micman]

What about WM 6.1 ???

Greets,

Micman

[jant90]

Guys, I'm new to PDA's (the HTC TC is going to be my first, and it is still on its way).

I did some reading in the wiki and I'm not really sure if I understand it correctly: A cooked rom contains (next to the WM6 OS) .cab files (installationfiles) that won't be erased after a hard reset (which pretty much resets your entire PDA). But will these .cab-files be installed automatically too? Can you save settings for individual programs in this cooked rom (or in the .cab files) too (which seems a must for anti-theft software to me)?

[natesiy]

+1 for basing this cooked ROM on WM6.1

I really could use the stable, threaded sms feature

[DXL007]

1) I want to applaud all those who have had the were with all to ignore the shit stirrer so that we could stay on track .
2) I want to say thank you to all the fellow geeks who think this stuff is cool and do it just for fun. I’m sure I’m not the only one whose friends tell me “You have another new phone”?
3) I think that the best ROM to satisfy every one at this point is a lite ROM with all the extra stuff removed and all the tweaks and hacks applied. Then you can just add the things you want in to it. It really only takes a few minuets to install a program. What takes all the time is the tedious registry hacks.

[rhov23]

1) I want to applaud all those who have had the were with all to ignore the shit stirrer so that we could stay on track .
2) I want to say thank you to all the fellow geeks who think this stuff is cool and do it just for fun. I’m sure I’m not the only one whose friends tell me “You have another new phone”?
3) I think that the best ROM to satisfy every one at this point is a lite ROM with all the extra stuff removed and all the tweaks and hacks applied. Then you can just add the things you want in to it. It really only takes a few minuets to install a program. What takes all the time is the tedious registry hacks.

I agree. No htc home today plugin required on the lite version. It should be stripped naked, except tweaks, hacks, and performance progs (like SRS WOW HD)

[Abbsta]

Would the cooks consider Sleuth255's User Customisation (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=366337)?

[tigerpower]

Where are we in the rom cooking?
I am impatient to see your art!!!

[LTxda]

Would the cooks consider Sleuth255's User Customisation (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=366337)?

For sure. Thank you for the suggestion. I think PK already has the files for this and already prepared it for the kitchen. Again, thank you.

[LTxda]

Where are we in the rom cooking?
I am impatient to see your art!!!

:D

You must not be reading. But to help you out i will repeat what has already been said a few times already...we already have an alpha quality ROM but need a device to test it. Olipro has been on the road travelling his ass off so we can't use this. Once PK gets enough donations for his device, and we're almost there, we will be able to move forward with the cooked ROM. Meanwhile, sit back...unlock your phone...get ready and if you want trade some ROMs with your other forum buddies until we can get the optimized ROM released.

Patience is very important my friend. :cool:

To all of those supporting the project either with kind words, suggestions, moral support and/or financially...thank you on behalf of everyone on the team AND the community.

[LTxda]

If you read the first few postsm then you'll notice that they mentioned anti-theft software...
But I'm not convinced about the effectiveness of these software... The last one I tried was easily countered whith a Hard Reset...

The good thing about cooking in the anti-theft is that the software will still be there after a hard reset...only problem is the configuration. So, to show you something that our team does...a new question is how can we provide a tool that might be able to restore settings on hard reset. I'm going to talk to the team about this and see what we can come up with. Maybe we can figure out a creative way of keeping the anti-theft software configured to your settings after a hard reset. Now that would be beautiful. :D