dcd's vogue rom 0.2.0

[dcd1182]

Here is my vogue rom version 0.2.0

What I have done so far (as compared to a Sprint 1.12 ship rom):

Upgrade drivers and XIP to 1.17 ship rom
Upgrade base to CE OS 5.2.1933 Build 18533.0.7.0 (in progress)
Upgrade OEM applications to newer versions from 1.17 ship rom
Remove IA Zip (Office Mobile 6.1 supports Zip)
Remove WModem (Internet Sharing is included)
Remove Sim Toolkit
Remove Autoupdate
Remove Catalog
Remove Customer Feedback, replace mxip_notify.vol with non-SQM version
Add Remote Desktop
Add VoIP
Registry - better performance, better battery life, etc

I have not tested this. I hear it works. If you mess up your phone, its not my fault.

http://rapidshare.com/files/82558441/dcd_vogue_0.2.0.exe.html

[dcd1182]

space reserved

[jakdillard]

man whats up I would love for you to keep working on this .....

[markgamber]

I don't mean any offense or insult but honestly, I don't really see a point to it. The Touch has plenty of memory so there's no real point in swapping apps in rom as with lesser phones. It's not an issue. Now if you can enable GPS, increase speed 30%, fix DirectDraw so it plays better than 1 1/2 fps or something like that, I'd be flashing it right now instead of typing this. But I'm not resetting my phone and going through all that for a few apps I could install myself in 1/10th the time. There's another custom rom on ppcgeeks that's also received relatively little interest, I suspect for the same reason.

Again, nothing personal, no insult is intended and remember, you asked. :-)

[dcd1182]

I don't mean any offense or insult but honestly, I don't really see a point to it. The Touch has plenty of memory so there's no real point in swapping apps in rom as with lesser phones. It's not an issue. Now if you can enable GPS, increase speed 30%, fix DirectDraw so it plays better than 1 1/2 fps or something like that, I'd be flashing it right now instead of typing this. But I'm not resetting my phone and going through all that for a few apps I could install myself in 1/10th the time. There's another custom rom on ppcgeeks that's also received relatively little interest, I suspect for the same reason.

Again, nothing personal, no insult is intended and remember, you asked. :-)

Yeah I take no offense. That seems to be the general feeling of vogue users. However, I am not just adding apps, in fact I havent added any (other than WM6 components.) I never do in my titan roms. What you have to consider is that WM6 is bloated with crap, and then HTC dumps more crap on top of it. Yeah, the vogue comes with all the software that 99% of people are throwing on top of their device's build for a custom rom... I am not one of those people :) I am more interested in updating the vanilla OS in terms of performance, stability, and age.

What I have done so far (as compared to a Sprint 1.12 ship rom):

Upgrade drivers and XIP to 1.17 ship rom
Upgrade base to CE OS 5.2.1933 Build 18533.0.7.0
Upgrade OEM applications to newer versions from 1.17 ship rom
Remove IA Zip (Office Mobile 6.1 supports Zip)
Remove WModem (Internet Sharing is included)
Remove Sim Toolkit
Remove Autoupdate
Remove Catalog
Remove Customer Feedback, replace mxip_notify.vol with non-SQM version
Add Remote Desktop
Add VoIP
Registry - better performance, better battery life, etc

I may also replace HTC Home 2.0 with 2.1. Beyond that I am open to suggestions.

[360discgolf]

Yeah I take no offense. That seems to be the general feeling of vogue users. However, I am not just adding apps, in fact I havent added any (other than WM6 components.) I never do in my titan roms. What you have to consider is that WM6 is bloated with crap, and then HTC dumps more crap on top of it. Yeah, the vogue comes with all the software that 99% of people are throwing on top of their device's build for a custom rom... I am not one of those people :) I am more interested in updating the vanilla OS in terms of performance, stability, and age.

What I have done so far (as compared to a Sprint 1.12 ship rom):

Upgrade drivers and XIP to 1.17 ship rom
Upgrade base to CE OS 5.2.1933 Build 18533.0.7.0
Upgrade OEM applications to newer versions from 1.17 ship rom
Remove IA Zip (Office Mobile 6.1 supports Zip)
Remove WModem (Internet Sharing is included)
Remove Sim Toolkit
Remove Autoupdate
Remove Catalog
Remove Customer Feedback, replace mxip_notify.vol with non-SQM version
Add Remote Desktop
Add VoIP
Registry - better performance, better battery life, etc

I may also replace HTC Home 2.0 with 2.1. Beyond that I am open to suggestions.

First, thanks for the work on this. I still don't know enough about the kitchen to do it myself. I will report back on what I notice with your rom. Did you do anything different with the pagepool size?

I like your theory on ROM building...just make a nice clean, fast, stable ROM and let people add what they need.

Thanks again for your work!

[dawilliams660]

DCD1182,

I will test this at my work and let you know how it runs

[jakdillard]

I don't mean any offense or insult but honestly, I don't really see a point to it. The Touch has plenty of memory so there's no real point in swapping apps in rom as with lesser phones. It's not an issue. Now if you can enable GPS, increase speed 30%, fix DirectDraw so it plays better than 1 1/2 fps or something like that, I'd be flashing it right now instead of typing this. But I'm not resetting my phone and going through all that for a few apps I could install myself in 1/10th the time. There's another custom rom on ppcgeeks that's also received relatively little interest, I suspect for the same reason.

Again, nothing personal, no insult is intended and remember, you asked. :-)

It was probably much easier for you to save your time and not reply at all .... ? By the way the rom is really nice this one and the ppcgeek one .. thanks

[fecht]

Thanks a lot, nice to see some more roms out there.
Josh

[pro_b]

Hey dcd. I love your work and have followed it closely on the mogul. I'm now using the Vogue and I figured it would be a matter of time before you helped out this area. I'm definitely in your corner so keep the roms coming. FYI... Alltel has released their touch which also has some goodies and may be worth looking into as soon as an Alltel user can dump the rom for us.

Pro_b

[dharvey4651]

Here is my vogue rom version 0.2.0

What I have done so far (as compared to a Sprint 1.12 ship rom):

Upgrade drivers and XIP to 1.17 ship rom
Upgrade base to CE OS 5.2.1933 Build 18533.0.7.0 (in progress)
Upgrade OEM applications to newer versions from 1.17 ship rom
Remove IA Zip (Office Mobile 6.1 supports Zip)
Remove WModem (Internet Sharing is included)
Remove Sim Toolkit
Remove Autoupdate
Remove Catalog
Remove Customer Feedback, replace mxip_notify.vol with non-SQM version
Add Remote Desktop
Add VoIP
Registry - better performance, better battery life, etc

I have not tested this. I do not have a vogue. I will update this when I get a report of how the rom works. If you are unsure about installing, dont. If you do install, please report your results.

http://rapidshare.com/files/82558441/dcd_vogue_0.2.0.exe.html

Awesome. I knew you could come up with something. Now its begun. Think you could release that kitchen so that people could try building their own ROMs for the Vogue? And one more thing... Is this just for Sprint? I have Sprint so it is not a problem but I'm asking on behalf of those who do not.

[geislert]

DCD1182,

Give me a rock solid ROM and I will be happy. If you added the best programs into ROM what would I have left to play with : )

Thank you for not overseasoning the soup........

[dcd1182]

Think you could release that kitchen so that people could try building their own ROMs for the Vogue?
Maybe eventually. However, I did include all rgu files, so you could dump this and throw it into your kitchen of choice.

And one more thing... Is this just for Sprint? I have Sprint so it is not a problem but I'm asking on behalf of those who do not.
I would imagine that it would run on any carrier, but it is sprint branded at this time.

so, nobody has explicitly stated that it does or does not run :) is it working for everyone?
looks like the vogue has a 12mb pagepool...would you guys like that changed?

[markgamber]

It was probably much easier for you to save your time and not reply at all .... ? By the way the rom is really nice this one and the ppcgeek one .. thanks

He asked a question, I gave an answer based on my usage and the obvious lack of interest in the two custom roms on ppcgeeks. Why waste time building systems a half dozen people might use when there are other phones in much more obvious need of work? Being a prick doesn't make it less true.

[dcd1182]

He asked a question, I gave an answer based on my usage and the obvious lack of interest in the two custom roms on ppcgeeks. Why waste time building systems a half dozen people might use when there are other phones in much more obvious need of work? Being a prick doesn't make it less true.

settle down everybody markgamber i appreciated your feedback. difference of opinion i suppose, but you were answering the question i asked. i'm not going to pour time into a rom nobody cares about, but its easy enough to build that its not a waste if half a dozen people do use it :)

[360discgolf]

First, thanks for the work on this. I still don't know enough about the kitchen to do it myself. I will report back on what I notice with your rom. Did you do anything different with the pagepool size?

I like your theory on ROM building...just make a nice clean, fast, stable ROM and let people add what they need.

Thanks again for your work!

I have been running the ROM for only one day, but I wanted to report some early things that I have noticed...

1) I am having the problem with the phone app openning after closing certain programs... Seems to pop up when using PHM regedit, settings, file explorer, SprintTV, and randomly with other apps

2) It appears that you have done some tweaks to the Touch keyboard, which is cool in my opinion, but there is a bug. In some web pages the Touch Keyboard will only give me the option to use the "123 page"...the keyboard simply will not change to the ABC or XT9 entry methods.

Overall functionally is very good, but these are two annoying issues that I have noticed thus far.

[remlle]

DCD do you know if there is a way to get the Keypad and keyboards ouf of the voge? I want to add them to my titan. I have a vogue and a titan. The ones posted on this site are the older keybaord files. the newer ones on teh vogue are a ton better and cleaner also work better. let me know asap thanks

[dcd1182]

argh...
I am having the problem with the phone app openning after closing certain programs... Seems to pop up when using PHM regedit, settings, file explorer, SprintTV, and randomly with other apps
well, that really sucks. the vogue 1.12 phonecanvas package did this on my titan, 1.17 does not. wish i could find whats causing it. i will try to investigate.

2) It appears that you have done some tweaks to the Touch keyboard, which is cool in my opinion, but there is a bug. In some web pages the Touch Keyboard will only give me the option to use the "123 page"...the keyboard simply will not change to the ABC or XT9 entry methods.
i did not mess with the keyboard...so i missed something...will check.

[360discgolf]

argh...

well, that really sucks. the vogue 1.12 phonecanvas package did this on my titan, 1.17 does not. wish i could find whats causing it. i will try to investigate.


i did not mess with the keyboard...so i missed something...will check.

Cool. Let me know if there is anything specific that you want me to test and give feedback on. Feel free to PM me.

[360discgolf]

From what I can tell most people think TouchFlo is not usable out of the box. I have a reg sitting that has made it much more usable for me although it still does not solve some of the short comings. At any rate, here is the reg edit I use....

HKLM\Software\OEM\TouchFloSettings\FingerPressure >>> Change D-Word to 9000.

This makes finger drag scrolling 100 times better. I wish you had a vogue so you can test it. It makes selecting text somewhat more difficult at first, but then becomes very easy once you adjust. It is really worth it to make scrolling more natural.

[wsparvis]

.....Why waste time building systems a half dozen people might use ....


If he enjoys doing it, then it's not a waste of his time. Most of us have our hobbies.

DCD - thanks! I'll try it this weekend.

[pro_b]

I'm not sure if I did anything wrong... but I'm unable to change the backlight settings. Otherwise, the Rom is great.... Also with the exception of the issue with the phone pad (but you already know about that).

Thanks dcd

[dcd1182]

I'm not sure if I did anything wrong... but I'm unable to change the backlight settings. Otherwise, the Rom is great.... Also with the exception of the issue with the phone pad

i will look and see if i can figure out whats messed up with backlight. can anyone else please confirm? i really need to get my hands on a vogue, troubleshooting isnt easy without the device. still hoping someone in IL has one...

on the phone pad note, i did notice that this is actually the old touch dialer. no idea why that would be, as the rest of oem apps were cutting edge new. ill try and swap back to the 1.12 ROM dialer, which is actually more appropriate for the cdma vogue.

[dawilliams660]

DCD,

Your rom is working great, no issues with it

Just to confrim.....i'm not having any issues with the phone pad or with the backlighting

[blee0125]

i will look and see if i can figure out whats messed up with backlight. can anyone else please confirm? i really need to get my hands on a vogue, troubleshooting isnt easy without the device. still hoping someone in IL has one...

on the phone pad note, i did notice that this is actually the old touch dialer. no idea why that would be, as the rest of oem apps were cutting edge new. ill try and swap back to the 1.12 ROM dialer, which is actually more appropriate for the cdma vogue.

I want to say that the backlight is fine but definitely based off a sensor like the Titan. It only comes on if it's dark enough. But I'm not sure where the sensor would be located on the Touch. Someone correct me if I'm wrong though.

[pro_b]

The problem I'm having is when I go to Start - Settings - System - Backlight. It will flash for a sec and then nothing happens. The default backlight work with no problems.

[98classic]

just went from a titan to the touch, used your rom on the titan and loved it great performance, will give this a wirl and get back to you with any problems, thanks...

edit: well after a few minutes of playing around with it, i notice that when ever i close anything it goes to the dialer, when i try to send a picture msg it says that it exceeds the sending limit of 1. this is from an out of the box install will try to look for options and try to fix it.

[AraqirG]

I can confirm this ROM definitely has dialpad popup issues. Thanks for a great rom anyways, DCD. We all appreciate the hard work you do around here.

[mbote]

I can confirm this ROM definitely has dialpad popup issues.

same here

And one more thing... Is this just for Sprint? I have Sprint so it is not a problem but I'm asking on behalf of those who do not.


I installed on a Bell device, works just great. But just so that everyone knows the Radio version on Bell is lower than on Sprint . Bell has 1.59 while Sprint has ~ 2.17 (don't quote me on this number but around that).


- To DCD >> the ROM works fine except the Dialer pop-up. Its version is somewhat older than on sprint devices...but that's what Bell has by default...

- Is it possible to have current Radio version and Dialer from Sprint and ROM version of Bell?

- Another request >> For Bell users, it's quite an annoyance to have SprintTV while you can't use it. Can you release the kitchen so we can make some more custom (with respect to CDN users)

Added VoIP

- To y'all out there, how's your experience with this VoIP calling on Touch? I seem to find it useless since it barely works. It can connect and the call goes thru and all but I can't just keep a decent conversation (very limited call volume)

-- To DCD, any hack done on this VoIP .. I haven't tried it on your ROM yet....

[dcd1182]

Bell has 1.59 while Sprint has ~ 2.17
I can put together a radio flash if you want to try it. Don't know what the differences are.

Is it possible to have current Radio version and Dialer from Sprint and ROM version of Bell?
again i dont know about the radio, but yes im going to switch back to the sprint dialer

- Another request >> For Bell users, it's quite an annoyance to have SprintTV while you can't use it. Can you release the kitchen so we can make some more custom (with respect to CDN users)
once the base rom is acceptable I will release kitchen with carrier options.

any hack done on this VoIP
I just included the WM6 VoIP package. I have not modified it or tried it.

[ludester]

Hey any chance you can work on the Bell's rom ? Apparently it is more stripped down, less badging.

Or if you can teach me or guide me to where I can also build custom roms I can do a bell variant.

LMK thanks!

[kushdeck]

any update on this rom? Is the link in the original post updated at all? As soon as a revision is released i will run it. Thanks for your time.

-deck

[Lowen SoDium]

I can confirm this ROM definitely has dialpad popup issues. Thanks for a great rom anyways, DCD. We all appreciate the hard work you do around here.

I had the phone pop up issue on the stock rom, it was due to a registry setting for showing the battery status. I can't find the setting now, but I had found it on ppcgeeks.com some time before.

[jim256]

I changed HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shell\ShowTitleBarClock from 1 to 2 - problem disappeared. Apparently, any value other than "1" will work. The value "2" removed the battery indicator from my title bar...
I am just still using the stock ROM, but thats what worked for me on that.
Also, just to clear things up, if this doesn't work right, or doesn't work the way I want to, I can always flash it back to the original ROM, correct?
Thanks a lot. I have been trying to find a good ROM for the Sprint Vogue for a while. This is exciting to find! Thanks; I'd love to help if I can.
Also, can anyone comment on the speed of this ROM vs. their normal ROM? thanks.

[dcd1182]

I changed HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shell\ShowTitleBarClock from 1 to 2 - problem disappeared.
nice! could someone please confirm this and i will change it.

can anyone comment on the speed of this ROM vs. their normal ROM? thanks.
if you guys can deal with a 4mb loss of available ram, id like to change the pagepool to 16mb to make things a little more reponsive

[jim256]

I could definitely deal with a 4mb loss. More if you can! Imo the faster the better, I have my SD Card for storage.
As for the phone pop-up fix, i have seen it posted numerous times on sites as a result of a very persisent search i ran; its a pretty annoying thing. http://www.spbclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11393&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=30
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?p=131208

I really appreciate your work and hope to be flashing my device within the next few days here.

Also, would there be any way to make possible the feature present in PPC2003SE of managing how much memory you want for programs and how much for storage? I remember having (and LOVING) that feature on my old axim. Not to mention that way, we would each be able to decide for ourselves the kind of storage and program memory we wanted.
Thanks, Jim.

[dcd1182]

Also, would there be any way to make possible the feature present in PPC2003SE of managing how much memory you want for programs and how much for storage?
nope, sorry, cant be done with wm5/6
as i remove stuff your storage memory will increase
im trying to improve performance but thats going to make your program memory decrease

thanks for the links, i will apply this as a workaround for now but that gives me some insight to what the root problem may be... obviously i would prefer to fix it rather than apply a workaround.

[dcd1182]

when i try to send a picture msg it says that it exceeds the sending limit of 1
whoops, i included ArcsoftMMS, and I did not include the settings. this should be fixed now, thanks for finding it.

[360discgolf]

How are things going on the new ROM? What's your plan?

Anything I can help with?

[dcd1182]

How are things going on the new ROM? What's your plan?

Anything I can help with?

i think that the backlight setting and phone popping up issues are due to how i split up oemapps. now each is in its own package with its own guid.. i think they are being parsed in an order that produces a different result than the original oemapps. this is the part that would be much easier to troubleshoot if i had a vogue on hand.

my plan is to fix that stuff, eliminate the operator crap and then (besides touchflo and biotouch) get it on par with my titan kitchen. its almost there.

what you can do is compare registry between the stock and custom roms, find what changes have caused undesirable results, and report them here. at this point i believe that the few reported issues should just need registry changes. if we know those values its pretty easy for me to find and correct them.

i have a feeling (without looking yet) that the dialpad popup issue is due to this or a similar key:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\security\ResOver\Bitmaps]
"BaseDll"="phcanOverbmp.dll"

[360discgolf]

i have a feeling (without looking yet) that the dialpad popup issue is due to this or a similar key:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\security\ResOver\Bitmaps]
"BaseDll"="phcanOverbmp.dll"

HKLM\security\Resover\Bitmaps
BaseDll=Override_BM.dll

[jim256]

so, to clear things up then, have you been constantly updating the rom at the first of the thread, or just editing the one you have and will soon release?
but idk for others but as for myself i want as much speed/performance as possible as the vogue doesn't seem all that snappy at all to me. i wish so bad that someone could figure out how to overclock this dang processor!!

[rchir]

DCD1182, Thanks a lot for this ROM. I will say it is worth even if one person installs it.
When i moved away from GSM providers to sprint one thing i always missed is the cooked ROMS. Thanks for keeping this tradition alive. I hope others will follow and produce better and better ROMS than those put out by Sprint.


settle down everybody markgamber i appreciated your feedback. difference of opinion i suppose, but you were answering the question i asked. i'm not going to pour time into a rom nobody cares about, but its easy enough to build that its not a waste if half a dozen people do use it :)

[dcd1182]

so, to clear things up then, have you been constantly updating the rom at the first of the thread, or just editing the one you have and will soon release?
but idk for others but as for myself i want as much speed/performance as possible as the vogue doesn't seem all that snappy at all to me. i wish so bad that someone could figure out how to overclock this dang processor!!

updating internally, i have not updated the posted rom, the version will always change when i post releases.

[jim256]

alright then thanks very much i will hang on till that nxt release then,

[h311boy]

Hi, i am new here and i was wondering if you can post the .cab of the internet sharing software because my Telus rom does not have that...and do you need to unlock the phone in order to install this rom. tnx

[98classic]

yes it has to be unlocked to install a custom rom.

[jim256]

as you do not actually have a vogue yourself, and this is slowing you down...i wanted to make sure that you saw this post in the other Vogue ROM thread...

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[cool bean]

Will this work on Canadian provider's CDMA Touch such as Bell?

Thanks

[98classic]

dcd would you do a kitchen for the touch like you did the titan?

[pro_b]

I hope this thread hasn't died. I really want to make this work dcd...

[blee0125]

It hasn't at least for me...I'm testing and working on dcd's aku.0.7.0 port. I'll post details when I have then. It works but I'm working out bugs now.

[jim256]

plz keep this up!! i have really really been looking forward to the nxt version of your ROM dcd, and even if you have decided to stop working on it, i would really appreciate it if you wouldnt mind wrapping up and posting what you have done since the 0.2.0 version of your ROM. i keep checking this thread hoping for updates because your next release sounds REALLY awesome. If theres anything I (or any of us) can do, PLZ let us know! I think i speak for us all when I say we are still very interested in your project here.
THANKS, Jim.

[jim256]

well my excitement to try your rom finally overcame my want/patience to wait for the nxt release. and let me say wow! I don't know if it is because of the fact that this is s fresh install but I am REALLY enjoying the boost in speed!! may I ask what you did? and also, you mentioned changing the size of the pagepool to further increase speed, im all for any more modifications you can make in order to increase performance! this is great! but I want more :) THANK YOU.

[dcd1182]

even if you have decided to stop working on it
its not dead. i only have so much time in a day and i work full time...

[jim256]

its not dead. i only have so much time in a day and i work full time......and you like to drink too right? ;) Last edited by dcd1182 : Today at 03:55 PM.

awesome news. sorry for our lack of faith there (or at least mine). any hints on when the next update will be made available?

Jim

[dcd1182]

...and you like to drink too right? ;)

awesome news. sorry for our lack of faith there (or at least mine). any hints on when the next update will be made available?

Jim
lol you saw my edit huh :) yes i work alot AND like to drink :) no clue when ill update maybe this week.

[jim256]

:) indeed I did :) but that sounds great, looking forward to it, thx :)

[AraqirG]

I'm looking forward to an update! And in case you haven't gotten positive confirmation, I was able to correct the dial-pad popup bug with a simple registry edit. Found it at PPCGeeks; I don't remember the exact key, but it was in HKLM under Microsoft I believe. Changed the showtitlebarclock from 1 to 2.

One thing I have noticed, however, is that sometimes when dialing a number (one not in my phonebook) the phone will decide to dial another number, usually with the same area code and prefix, located in my phone book instead. Kinda weird, and I don't recall seeing this before I started using your ROM, but who knows.
Thanks again for all the time you spend on this.

Found it!
hklm\software\microsoft\shell\ShowTitleBarClock
post #62 - http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=11972&highlight=pocket+plus+dialer&page=7

[deegimus]

DCD,
I'm using your ROM and I love it. I found the registry hack to fix the dialer popup and I'm having no problems after installing that. Have you thought any more about giving more memory to the page file?
Cheers,
DJ

[jim256]

I'm looking forward to an update! And in case you haven't gotten positive confirmation, I was able to correct the dial-pad popup bug with a simple registry edit. Found it at PPCGeeks; I don't remember the exact key, but it was in HKLM under Microsoft I believe. Changed the showtitlebarclock from 1 to 2....

I changed HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shell\ShowTitleBarClock from 1 to 2 - problem disappeared. Apparently, any value other than "1" will work. The value "2" removed the battery indicator from my title bar...
I am just still using the stock ROM, but thats what worked for me on that....



you should really consider reading a thread before posting in it...come on this one is only 6 pgs long.

[dcd1182]

The problem I'm having is when I go to Start - Settings - System - Backlight. It will flash for a sec and then nothing happens. The default backlight work with no problems.
did anyone else ever confirm this does or does not work?

[jim256]

I just tried the backlight thru start-settings-system-backlight and it seemed to function as normal.

do you know of any way to disable the clicking sound while scrolling with touchflo?? it seems to scroll smoother when the sound is disabled and therefore the clicking sound disabled.
thx a lot.

[dcd1182]

I just tried the backlight thru start-settings-system-backlight and it seemed to function as normal.

do you know of any way to disable the clicking sound while scrolling with touchflo?? it seems to scroll smoother when the sound is disabled and therefore the clicking sound disabled.
thx a lot.
i dont have a vogue...if you can figure it out and tell me ill change it in the build.

[jim256]

i dont have a vogue...if you can figure it out and tell me ill change it in the build.

o oops its a little simpler than i thought. i guess its just a simple reg edit; i guess not necessary in a rom as some ppl way want it and not know how to get it back. HKLM\Software\OEM\TFLOSettings "EnableSound" needs to be 0

i dont know how the heck you would fix this, but i thought it was worth a shot to throw it out to you. i have noticed that accessing the settings from the start menu seems to be quite slow (though this only happens the first time since a soft boot)

thanks.

[blee0125]

My Vogue Kitchen [001]is now complete. More details at:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=361469

Please discuss in Kitchen thread so we don't hijack dcd1182's thread. Thanks.

[AraqirG]

You can disable the TouchFlo sound by going to settings -> touchflo and disabling sound.

[jim256]

You can disable the TouchFlo sound by going to settings -> touchflo and disabling sound.

o jeez i feel like a moron. even simpler than i thought yet again.

but dcd, some great things for the new rom would be:

obviously the wm build, latest oem camera app, mms, camera album, audio manager, windows live...etc.
adobe flash lite
adobe flash player
flash video bundle
largest pagepool possible ;) :)
largest/optimized caches already enabled on everything for enhanced speed such as Glyphcache, File Cache, and File Filter Cache
POSSIBLY schaps advanced configuration tool? as most of it does seem to work for the vogue
best bluetooth a2dp settings
best battery performance reg settings
disconnect button and timer in gprs bubble
vista like icons?
POSSIBLY HHC?
the touchflo cube fixed up a bit. on the app-launcher side, most of the tiles seem to have mismatched captions/icons, and many of the shortcuts do not work.
also maybe the battery program ive attached. it allows for wm6 to have a solid battery meter like wm5 rather than the (rather useless) 3 bar one in default wm6.


these are just things i saw that people have included in other ROMs that i thought looked good.

i know thats A LOT to throw out, and lots you have already done, and others may be impossible, but i figure most of those things are things that most people would want in a great ROM. thanks a lot for all your hard work.

i know some ppl may curse me for asking him to include software they could add themselves, but i feel that most of the things i have requested are basics that everyone could appreciate.

THANKS.

[pro_b]

Hey dcd... I've read the comments at the other thread from blee. No disrespect to anyone, but I'm just going to sit tight and wait until you post your kitchen. I have followed your work since I first got my Mogul last August. I started with you over at ppcgeeks and because of things going downhill you came here and I followed you here. I think you are VERY talented and a HUGE asset to this community. Again, I mean no disrespect to anyone else but your work has never failed in terms of QUALITY. I'm not jocking anyone but I'm giving credit where it is due.

pro_b


P.S. I've been with this community since 2006 but just never had much to say so I wouldn't qualify for the other kitchen anyway given that I don't have 15 posts..... LOL

[david636]

Very good job dcd... Thanks for all the time you put into this rom... The only issue i've run into so far is the MMS not working under the srint server.. Plus I cannot edit the server address because it's labeled default:(
Otherwise, great proformance rom.. I flash my phone like a paparazzi flashed his camera.. Thanx again dcd... And every other memeber in here with good info.

[bugzy]

ill be waiting lil longer before i flash with a ROM

but im glad to see someone working on ROM's for the Vogue

also, suggestion

S2U2 is pretty cool, make waste resources, but it makes the phone more cool ;) iphone'ish

[jim256]

well, i have some slightly disappointing news to report.

though i performed frequent hard resets on my vogue as a result of loading different software and wanting a clean start (probably bi-weekly ish), i still thought the posted ROM was a little bit faster. i figured my familiarity with the standard ROM with nothing on it would allow me to judge accurately enough.

my dad exchanged his vogue tonight for another at the sprint store (his phone key wasnt working) and brought it home fresh and new.

i hard-reset both of the devices, and skipped the Sprint Customization on both when they began to boot up the first time.

i performed various small tests, such as launching programs, opening the windows folder in the standard file explorer, start menu times, internet speeds, and other such things with absolutely no modifications to either device excepting only turning off the sound for touchflo, and disabling the "large start menu" (as this slows down the launching of the start menu so severely)

sad to say, his beat mine in several tests, probably about 60% of the time. 20% of the time i beat him, and 20% of the time it was a perfect tie. i pressed the buttons at the exact same time each time, i was very careful to do so.

i also tried installing Dinarsofts latest build (105) of MemMaid and "optimizing" for "extreme speed" on one device, and "extreme memory" on the other. i again performed the same tests with the same results. i then swapped each devices optimizations, and tried again -- same results.

each time after altering any settings in MemMaid i waited about 10 seconds, then shut off the device. i then waited about 15 seconds, and turned on both devices. his also BARELY beat mine in boot time.

in conclusion, i know that the main focus of this ROM was not too make it incredibly fast, but I had hoped for it very much. the stock ROM tends to be just a little bit faster in most cases. I realize that this was with few to no other programs open, and that maybe when both devices had a lot of these running dcd's ROM may be faster (can anyone comment on this?), but still, thought you'd like to know, just for sure.

the other sad thing was that MemMaids "optimizations" seemed to have no effect whatsoever on speed, at least when there were few programs open and not incredibly high amounts of memory being used.

thanks, and keep up the work dcd!

phew..that was long... (MUCH larger page pool PLEASE!!)

[david636]

Thanx for the info... I suspected the same thing, but never had 2 Vogues in the same room. My dads phone is a Nokia 3132 :) Dinosaur.
Thanx for the info again.. Still waiting for dcd 2.1.
:)

[jim256]

Thanx for the info... I suspected the same thing, but never had 2 Vogues in the same room. My dads phone is a Nokia 3132 :) Dinosaur.
Thanx for the info again.. Still waiting for dcd 2.1.
:)

you bet, and I guess I will just have to do the same.

thx dcd!

[dcd1182]

sad to say, his beat mine in several tests, probably about 60% of the time. 20% of the time i beat him, and 20% of the time it was a perfect tie. i pressed the buttons at the exact same time each time, i was very careful to do so.
2 thoughts here:
1. I have seen identical devices with identical ROM perform differently. I have had 2 moguls with quite a difference in boot time while having the same rom installed. I would be more interested in benchmark results from different roms on the same device...
2. The stock sprint rom is a 1.12 and this is based on 1.17. The drivers are different and may perform different. If we can support a driver version preference with benchmarks I can use it.

i also tried installing Dinarsofts latest build (105) of MemMaid and "optimizing" for "extreme speed" on one device, and "extreme memory" on the other.
this is the main reason i need to see a vogue hands on. those reg settings are just somebodys opinion. i have found the opposite of some popular reg changes to increase performance on the titan. id rather play with those certain values myself and find the optimal setting.

in conclusion, i know that the main focus of this ROM was not too make it incredibly fast, but I had hoped for it very much.
well, the main focus of my roms is usually to improve the "base system" as much as possible. speed, stability, compatibility, etc. the vogue is a little bit different case from the titan because of its finger friendly ui requiring some apps i dont want to strip out. a rom without touchflo, cube, etc is going to perform better than one with. so the main focus here isnt so much 'cleaning' like on the titan, but performance is important..

[jim256]

thanks for the (prompt) response.

this is the main reason i need to see a vogue hands on. those reg settings are just somebodys opinion. i have found the opposite of some popular reg changes to increase performance on the titan. id rather play with those certain values myself and find the optimal setting.

now im getting tempted to send you mine. ...i just dont know what id do in the mean time.... did you ever check on that guy i mentioned in an earlier post here?? the one that said he was willing to destroy his phone? you never replied to that, but that might be what could REALLY get this moving.

but..here is a...crazy, idea. umm....maybe you could go to your nearest Sprint store and say youre interested in the Touch, and buy one (of course you have your full 30 days to return it), and maybe you could play with it then, and return it after 25 days or so (just to be safe).
now i know thats an...interesting/strange idea to say the least but...hey, thought id throw it out there.

I have seen identical devices with identical ROM perform differently.

i find that very interesting...strange.

The stock sprint rom is a 1.12 and this is based on 1.17. The drivers are different and may perform different. If we can support a driver version preference with benchmarks I can use it.

sorry, but it wasnt really clear to me what you meant here in the last sentence. are you saying you need someone to do some benchmarking?

well, thanks a lot, good luck, thanks, thanks, and thanks.

[jim256]

one thing i found is that PointUI Home is not running well at all on this ROM. i have checked with lots of other Sprint Vogue owners and none of them are having the issues i am. I have hard-reset and installed and ran it, but still the problems persist.

since my dad recently hard-reset his, i installed PointUI Home on his to see how it worked, and everything seems to work fine.

the problems:

in the "Cog", under Windows Mobile, virtually none of the settings show up, constantly forcing me to exit home and use the start menu to get to settings.


i know we (/ I) have thrown a lot at you concerning this update to your ROM, and its probably too much, but just trying to help get it perfect.
thanks a lot, we all greatly appreciate your work, keep it up!

[pro_b]

Hey dcd... I just thought I would throw out there that I think the Cube should have an option to install or not install. Reason being is that there are probably some people (like me) who think the Cube is nothing more than cool factor. It's nice and all but not neccessarily needed in a base. Plus there are different versions of the cube which some people may prefer.....

Just a thought.

pro_b

[coderaja]

DCD, thanks for the ROM. It works pretty good expect for the phone dialer issue. did the registry change and that fixed the issue.

Waiting for your next version of the ROM. Thanks.

[AraqirG]

DCD, will you be doing any porting of RevA/GPS to the Vogue roms? I have no idea what this entails, but if there's ANYTHING at all I can contribute, please let me know! lol, my friend just updated his mogul and rev a is amazing

[360discgolf]

Hey dcd,

I know your attention will be distracted with the new titan rom floating around, but I am really hoping you don't quit this project. I check the forum probably ten times a day looking for your update.

Shoot, I'm ready to start the donate a vogue fund so we can really get you cookin

[dcd1182]

yah its obviously on hold with titan stuff going on

i dont forsee that titan radio flashing so easily on vogue, it required a new bootloader for titan. without the radio, the gps drivers in the rom dont do anything. therefore i dont really see this titan rom being worth anything to you guys.

i will update though soon

[atoy74]

yah its obviously on hold with titan stuff going on

i dont forsee that titan radio flashing so easily on vogue, it required a new bootloader for titan. without the radio, the gps drivers in the rom dont do anything. therefore i dont really see this titan rom being worth anything to you guys.

i will update though soon

WOW, thats a nail through the heart. Please say it aint so...

[dcd1182]

WOW, thats a nail through the heart. Please say it aint so...
edit: confirmed the new radio does not work with the vogue SPL. no dice until you guys get something from htc.

on another note..
is everyone going to be pissed if the next rom has no touchflo/cube? another user suggested this, and i like the idea. i want to make my rom as fast as possible, and as close to the titan build as possible (for a good reason i will discuss later)

i've also replaced the buggy dialer with what i use on titan. it is still the touch skin, but it doesnt pop up all the time. the only downside is that when you press a button, it turns completely white, it does not have the black-on-white pressed graphic that your current dialpad has - no image underneath your finger. does anyone mind?

last... how is the volume on the vogue? are you guys replacing your audiopara file to increase volume or was it ok out of the box? a vogue user at work today implied that his is too quiet to use in loud areas.

[mrgeoff]

on another note..
is everyone going to be pissed if the next rom has no touchflo/cube? another user suggested this, and i like the idea. i want to make my rom as fast as possible, and as close to the titan build as possible (for a good reason i will discuss later)

Generic kitchen for the Titan and Vogue yes? :D

[dcd1182]

Generic kitchen for the Titan and Vogue yes? :D
you caught me

[AraqirG]

last... how is the volume on the vogue? are you guys replacing your audiopara file to increase volume or was it ok out of the box? a vogue user at work today implied that his is too quiet to use in loud areas.

I think the volume is fine. For the most part I can hear people fine, and if I'm in a silent room with the volume all the way down people can usually pick up bits and pieces of my conversation.

Too bad about that radio, tho.

[volwrath]

I have a question about the radio. Assuming VZ launches their GPS-enabled touch before Sprint releases the Q1 update, I assume that would solve the problem of not having a bootloader for the radio, correct?

[dcd1182]

I have a question about the radio. Assuming VZ launches their GPS-enabled touch before Sprint releases the Q1 update, I assume that would solve the problem of not having a bootloader for the radio, correct?
no, but if the official ruu from that device were available, that might.

[jim256]

is everyone going to be pissed if the next rom has no touchflo/cube? another user suggested this, and i like the idea. i want to make my rom as fast as possible...

personally, i use touchflo quite often. the cube i could do without i guess, though i find it very useful at times for quick speed dials.


last... how is the volume on the vogue? are you guys replacing your audiopara file to increase volume or was it ok out of the box? a vogue user at work today implied that his is too quiet to use in loud areas.

personally, i would really like increased volume on the vogue, or rather the option of having louder volume; it is more than often a little too quiet.

[edge23]

is everyone going to be pissed if the next rom has no touchflo/cube?

first things first, thank you for all your hard work on the titan and your interest on the touch.

honestly i could care less about the cube, but touchflo makes it easy to scroll on some pages/menus.:D

[360discgolf]

I really like to have touchflo especially when changing the finger pressure value 9000. Is there anyway to oem touchflo so it could be optional for the touch?

[AraqirG]

For those worried about losing touchflo, I'm pretty sure that if DCD's rom removes it, you can get it back by installing SPB Plus. Additionally, (although I haven't used it myself) most people have said that the smooth scrolling feature in SPB Plus works better than TouchFlo.
No quick fix for adding back in the cube, tho. (Finger Friendly Friends is an amazingly quick contact utility, tho).

[deegimus]

edit: confirmed the new radio does not work with the vogue SPL. no dice until you guys get something from htc.

on another note..
is everyone going to be pissed if the next rom has no touchflo/cube? another user suggested this, and i like the idea. i want to make my rom as fast as possible, and as close to the titan build as possible (for a good reason i will discuss later)

i've also replaced the buggy dialer with what i use on titan. it is still the touch skin, but it doesnt pop up all the time. the only downside is that when you press a button, it turns completely white, it does not have the black-on-white pressed graphic that your current dialpad has - no image underneath your finger. does anyone mind?

last... how is the volume on the vogue? are you guys replacing your audiopara file to increase volume or was it ok out of the box? a vogue user at work today implied that his is too quiet to use in loud areas.
dcd,
About the volume, I have been working with the audiopara.csv file for a couple weeks now. It IS too loud on the low end and too low in a noisy environment. I will post it when it is complete. I am mostly working only with the earcouple (ie. the normal speaker when using the phone)
About the touchflo, I really like it...
Hmmm, if you put together a kitchen... ummmm, well... hmmmm
-- I'm grinning --

DJ

[dcd1182]

i'll see if i can cab touchflo and cube. but they will only work on your device on this rom, before anyone asks.

id like to use that audiopara file when youre finished, if you dont mind.

[mnksauce]

this is a great rom. has been working perfectly for a good month now. I am another who would like to see touch cube gone. touchflo can stay seeing how i use it a lot, but there are other options if you do take it out. and if you can cab the cube and touchflo then we'd be golden. gj.

[fowen]

On the subject of the touchflo and the cube...

I can tell you I rarely use the cube, and when I do it is just showing someone else what the phone can do. TouchFlo has never really been useable for me even with the registry hack (not sure if it is me, or the process) so I wouldn't mind seeing it go.

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I like the idea of a clean rom. I have been using your rom for almost 24 hours and I have found a few bugs. I think I am going to flash my device with your ROM and not install some of the other programs to see if they are the cause.

The keyboard bug someone brought up a while ago where in some places the Touch Keyboard came up with a number pad and wouldn't let you switch to letters. I think this is because you don't have the full touch keyboard installed as well as the suretype.

The battery seems to go MUCH faster then the previous ROM. I usually get between 9 - 12 hours on a full battery charge and this morning I took the phone off the charger at 7:00 at by noon it was telling me my battery was critically low.

Polen's Vista Dialer wouldn't work. I installed it but I still had the default touch dialer skin.

MSVC was very flakey with your ROM. I am not sure what caused it but sometimes the announcements wouldn't come through when using my headset and also sometimes when I would press the action button on my headset I wouldn't get any sound from the voice command but it would take commands. Also sometimes it would ring on my phone instead of my headset (which was strange).

I also had the same locking up and slow issues that I experienced after a while on Blee's kitchen and also the stock Touch ROM. I am not sure if this is programs I am installing or not.

Programs I installed:

SPB Phone Suite
SPB Mobile Shell
Microsoft Voice Command 1.6
codyppc voice command fix.cab (to fix announcements with MSVC)
VistaCube2.0_Full_Animation.CAB (By Polen)
VistaDialer1.2.CAB (By Polen)
VistaKeyboard1.0.CAB (By Polen)
wm6bat_solid_qvga_touch.cab
HHCv10b5.CAB

[OrionSX]

@Fowen-
I've had problems with MSVC on the STOCK Sprint Touch ROM. To fix (part) of the problem, with notifications, follow the directions here:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1548114&postcount=5

@DCD-
Keep up the good work! I can't stand how slow my Touch is, so I'm waiting till you release a version with larger page pool. Sadly, I do like my Touchflo and Cube, so if you do remove them, please include them for optional installation!

[beuh_jonny]

last... how is the volume on the vogue? are you guys replacing your audiopara file to increase volume or was it ok out of the box? a vogue user at work today implied that his is too quiet to use in loud areas.

I find the volume on the vogue's earpiece to be much too low. To the point where if I'm at a bar, I'll dismiss the call and just text the person back to find out what's going on.

I've been looking into how to increase the volume on the earpiece beyond the shipped maximum, but I'm new to PPCs and changing my rom to be able to change the audiopara file seems a little scary to be honest.

I was hoping to find a registry hack or something a little simpler, but no dice.

If anyone has an easy fix to raise the volume on the earpiece I'd love to hear it!

[98classic]

i personally only use the cube for quick dials, but that can easily be fixed by adding the latest htc today and adding the contacts tab. touchflo could be left as an option though as it is usable half of the time.

keep up the good work though. thanks

[jim256]

seeing as how this is an all touch phone, and yet my dads old axim x30's screen is FAR more responsive, i applied this hack to help narrow the gap, and i think its one that probably EVERYONE would appreciate. doesnt make a huge difference, but it helps.

HKLM\Drivers\Touchpanel "PressureThreshold": hex = FFFFFFFF

not sure why i didnt suggest this before...thx dcd.

[deegimus]

dcd,

I just loaded no2chem's WM6.1 Clean ROM and some of the (very) minor glitches from your 0.20 ROM went away (with the exception of the phone dialer popup - also easily fixed with the reg entry). I haven't tested it completely, but it seems to be very stable. He didn't take any of the 'crap' out of it though. I don't know what kitchen you used, but I think it would be worth putting this version of WM in and taking some of the bloatware out. At this point, as we all wait for RevA, I think two really clean versions, one with touchflo/cube, and one without would be an excellent idea.
Are you game?
DJ

Ps. I haven't tested the audiopara.csv on this one.