Please report power consumption of your radio ROM here

[artisticcheese]

Hi,

Can you please install free acbPowerMeter (http://www.acbpocketsoft.com/Products/acbPowerMeter/acbPowerMeter-Overview-2.html) which is free. Enable bluetooth, turn off the phone and let it run for 10 mins or so with no calls, data etc. Please check average mA used and post results here so we have some data at hand to compare different ROMs and power consumption.
My case
1.54.07.00 --> power consumption was between 50-60 mA
1.48.00.10 --> power consumption was between 15-25 mA

Again this was with bluetooth on and no data, incoming or outgoing calls, screen is off for 10 mins or so.

[mrvanx]

Good idea.....everybody please give this a go.

1.48.00.10 - GSM 1800 - Average 34mA
1.48.00.10 - UMTS 2100 - Average 33mA (interesting)


Ideally we could use somebody flashing a naked ROM (such as pandora) and trying out each radio on both GSM and UMTS (3G). My tests have phonealarm running in the background which most likely causes more juice to be sapped.

[noellenchris]

1.54.30.00 measure conditions - GSM on, BT on, display on, backlight off - 38mA
That was average after about 30min with the above settings

[Jim Murray]

1.54.30.00 - 32mA
TNT's ROM after 10 min.
Bluetooth on, Back light off

[MaRaHoX]

GSM ROM 1.54.30.10

1) measure conditions - GSM on, BT on, display on, backlight off - avg. 37 mA, total 6mAh
2) measure conditions - GSM off, BT on, display on, backight off - avg. 26 mA, total 4 mAh

Maybe will be good to specify standard for measure conditions, because these description is uncartain and for true result it is neccessary. I don't understand to all causes of battery consumption:(, but it also depends on applications in RAM etc.?

[kipe]

GSM ROM 1.54.30.10

GSM/UMTS OFF
1) measure conditions - GSM off, BT on, display on, backlight on (40% brightness)- avg. 42 mA, total 7mAh
2) measure conditions - GSM off, BT on, display on, backight off - avg. mA, total mAh

GSM/UMTS ON
1) measure conditions - GSM on (UMTS 2100), BT on, display on, backight on (40% brightness) - avg. 54 mA, total 9 mAh
2) measure conditions - GSM on (UMTS 2100), BT on, display on, backight off - avg. 36mA, total 6mAh


*Test is still ongoing, flashing to 1.47.00.10 & post will be edited later on

[chymmylt]

Good idea.....everybody please give this a go.

1.48.00.10 - GSM 1800 - Average 34mA
1.48.00.10 - UMTS 2100 - Average 33mA (interesting)


Ideally we could use somebody flashing a naked ROM (such as pandora) and trying out each radio on both GSM and UMTS (3G). My tests have phonealarm running in the background which most likely causes more juice to be sapped.

I think you right - it would be best to have one peson run through the radio roms and record. Each person posting their results is somewhat apples to orages because battery consumption has a lot more variables then just sceen off - bluetooth on - i.e. differn't loads on the processor (might have program taxing the processor in the background) - distance from towers (somebody closer to the tower will use less power then somebody futher), etc. - even the weather can effect it. There are soo many variables that unless we have one person, using the same rom in the same place that will flash one radio, test and then move on to the next radio rom, it is unlikely that we will get an accurate representation of battery consumption per radio rom :(

[mrvanx]

If I have time i might begin a series of tests once ive flashed a 'naked' rom. Taking an old radio (no older than 1.27) as the baseline.

so whatever the consumption the rating for the baseline radio would be 1.00.

a consumption of 10% above would result in a score of 0.9......less power consumption shows a score of above 1.....higher scores are better obviously......everybody agree?

[noellenchris]

That sounds awesome. If you need any help let me know. It's a lot of work to take on. But you could complete a good series in a day if ya have the time. We would know which radio rom has best power consumption and then all we have to do is figure which one works for us in our area and be done with it.


Maybe Start a new thread?

Good luck.
Chris:)

[kipe]

If I have time i might begin a series of tests once ive flashed a 'naked' rom. Taking an old radio (no older than 1.27) as the baseline.

so whatever the consumption the rating for the baseline radio would be 1.00.

a consumption of 10% above would result in a score of 0.9......less power consumption shows a score of above 1.....higher scores are better obviously......everybody agree?

couldn't ask for more from u bro... my thanks in advance for your time.. :)

[chymmylt]

If I have time i might begin a series of tests once ive flashed a 'naked' rom. Taking an old radio (no older than 1.27) as the baseline.

so whatever the consumption the rating for the baseline radio would be 1.00.

a consumption of 10% above would result in a score of 0.9......less power consumption shows a score of above 1.....higher scores are better obviously......everybody agree?

Mrvanx, you never cease to amaze me in your awesomeness :)

[galaxys]

very productive...can't wait for the overall results!

[Ofaskian]

Hello Guys and Happy New Year ,

I Have Made My Tests And the Results Are :

ROM 1.48.00.00

GSM
1) Measure Conditions - GSM On, BT on, display off, avg. 71 mA, total 2mAh
2) Measure Conditions - GSM off, BT on, display off avg. 65mA, total mAh

UMTS
1) Measure Conditions - UMTS on (UMTS 2100), BT on, display off, avg. 71 mA, total 3 mAh
2) Measure Conditions - UMTS off (UMTS 2100), BT on, display off, 66 mA, total 2mAh


That Are My Results As I Can See Big Consumtion but its the better radio here in greece in my opininion

Whats The better radion for battery life any suggention?
Waiting 4 Pm!!!

[mrvanx]

OK, does anybody have any test criteria for this??

Test 1: Radio on GSM mode, bluetooth off, nothing running except bare ROM & power meter.

Test 2: Radio on UMTS mode everything as test 1.

All tests an average over 10 mins. (as the original tests on this thread).

[chymmylt]

OK, does anybody have any test criteria for this??

Test 1: Radio on GSM mode, bluetooth off, nothing running except bare ROM & power meter.

Test 2: Radio on UMTS mode everything as test 1.

All tests an average over 10 mins. (as the original tests on this thread).

Seems good to me - maybe give it 2-3 minutes from when you think the phone has booted to ensure all startup tasks have completed so the phone should have the least possible processor load. Also, I would try to have the phone in as close to the same location as possible for each test (so it will be as close to the same distance from the same tower for each test)

I think it's probably a bit much to load field test to ensure you are connected to the same tower each time though :S

[mrvanx]

Seems good to me - maybe give it 2-3 minutes from when you think the phone has booted to ensure all startup tasks have completed so the phone should have the least possible processor load. Also, I would try to have the phone in as close to the same location as possible for each test (so it will be as close to the same distance from the same tower for each test)

I think it's probably a bit much to load field test to ensure you are connected to the same tower each time though :S

LOL too right.

The current tests im trying are:

Test 1 : 10 minutes of idle.......gsm only everything off and backlight off (not in standby). Nothing loaded except the power meter, no running tasks or today items.

Test 2 : as test 1 but with UMTS instead of gsm.


The results are showing up currently around between 10 and 20 mA.

Seems ive reduced the current being drawn by removing alot of processes and ofcourse the backlight. Any differences in the radios usage of the battery should show up clearer now.

EDIT:: have tested four radios, will come back on in the morning and report my findings.

EDIT 2:: See my new thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=358933) about this.

[chymmylt]

Thought of another thing that could affect results - if you have the SD card in or out. I assume you've already begun so just be sure that all test are preformed the same - if you haven't already begun - to get a more accurate measure I'd go w/o the card.

[Shamanix]

mrvanx, this could be great and useful.. ;)

If I might suggest the testing procedures.. it could take a lot of time to test everything, but would be a great comparison..

1.) GSM vs UMTS standby
2.) "Idle vs load" stress test on the processor/s ( spb benchmark, playing movie, ect.. )
3.) GSM vs UMTS back surfing the internet
4.) Wireless, bluetooth connections tests, ect.

It will give us better picture on the battery performance with different radios along with battery consumption while using the device in heavy usage conditions ;)

[matar]

What is necessary to detect the correct battery consumption?

Something like this: http://www.vandenmuyzenberg.nl/PowerGuard/ ???

Should I use this tool?

[camelush]

my phone is hungry comsumation

average = 283 mAh

any sugestions to reduce ?.....

[swobnair]

Hi

This is my first posting ever in XDA forum.

I had a very serious battery problem, and wanted to see what I could do about it. I barely managed 4 hours before battery was down to zero.

I installed a new ROM V27_RBSN_3G and I immediately felt that battery life was better, but I wanted to quantify and remove any misconceptions about what consumes power and what does not. People used to think UMTS or 3G consumes power. I needed scientific proof and was ready to pay the price.

I have now made my first few tests, a lot will follow which I will submit in this or maybe a separate thread.

SPV M3100 (Hermes 100)
Duration 5 mins each test
In some tests Backlight is set NOT to turn off.
Backlight is set at 1st notch -dimmest but not off -
Radio Rom 1.47.30.10

Test # 1
3G 0N
BT OFF
WIFI OFF
Display OFF
Running Programs 1 (acbPowerMeter-1.1)
Average Power = 9MA


Test # 2
3G 0N
BT OFF
WIFI OFF
Display ON
Running Programs 1 (acbPowerMeter-1.1)
Average Power = 23MA


Test # 3
3G 0FF (GSM)
BT OFF
WIFI OFF
Display OFF
Running Programs 1 (acbPowerMeter-1.1)
Average Power = 8MA


Test # 4
3G 0FF (GSM)
BT OFF
WIFI OFF
Display ON
Running Programs 1 (acbPowerMeter-1.1)
Average Power = 25MA

Summary of the above

The backlight even at its dimmest setting takes approx 17MA
GSM/3G have a negligible power consumption when not in use.

Next test is when a call is in progress using 3G and GSM

Now that the backlight is calculated all other tests will not take the backlight into consideration as one would need to simply add 17MA to whatever the result will be as during all the tests my backlight will be off.

The next tests will cover:
- 1 minute 3G call
- 1 minute GSM call
- Good reception area (full bars) no call
- Bad reception area (1 bar) no call
- Good reception area (full bars) 1 minute call
- Bad reception area (1 bar) 1 minute call
- Loose reception for 5 seconds - reconnect to new cell

Once these batch of tests are done. Then the final batch will concetrate on what we could do as software is concerned.

- 5 minute tests with some running applications such as Outlook, Opera, Garmin,
- Which is the most power hungry software ?
- Will it matter if we leave an application running in the background and switch to another application or is it better to close unused apps.

The final verdict will be given soon.

Thanks..
:)

[swobnair]

Using the same mobile with the same settings as my last post.

3G 0FF (GSM)
wifi OFF
BT ON


Garmin with backlight always on (dimmest level)

Voice guidance on at 100%

Travelled for 15 minutes.

Average power consumption... Surprise... Surprise .... 52 MA

:)