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hammermedia
13-01-2008, 09:34 PM
I'm running WM6 (and WM5 behaved the same way) Remote Desktop and need the desktop resolution of 1024x768. I understand I will do some scrolling because of the native 640x480. I'll just do quite a bit less than on my 8525 (TyTn).

The 8525 and the Athena give me the same server desktop size. On the 8525 I get scroll bars to scroll around the 640x480 virtual desktop using it's 320x240 screen. On the Athena I get the 640x480 desktop and no scrolling. Nice but since the program on the server needs 1024x768 I'm still stuck. Is there anyway to set the resolution like on the desktop version of the Remote Desktop Client? The only option is "fit remote desktop to screen" on the Athena.

I monitor multiple servers and some of the management tools need bigger than 640x480. My whole organization is Remote Desktop so installing another remote control system is not an option.

Rudegar
13-01-2008, 09:56 PM
you can use vnc insted

hammermedia
14-01-2008, 07:24 AM
....... the management tools need bigger than 640x480. My whole organization is Remote Desktop so installing another remote control system is not an option.

I have 20 servers in our environment and installing VNC would be a chore not to mention. I don't like to install ANYTHING on production servers. Hence the need for 1024x768 in RDP.

It's odd that 320x240 allows you to scroll to 640x480 but no other resolution is available for 640x480.

By the way I love the old VNC. I used to use it on my PDQ Smartphone by Kyocera running Palm OS in 2001. Back then it would allow scaling. It seems silly that RDP can't do the same.

leoni1980
15-01-2008, 04:40 AM
I have 20 servers in our environment and installing VNC would be a chore not to mention. I don't like to install ANYTHING on production servers. Hence the need for 1024x768 in RDP.

It's odd that 320x240 allows you to scroll to 640x480 but no other resolution is available for 640x480.

By the way I love the old VNC. I used to use it on my PDQ Smartphone by Kyocera running Palm OS in 2001. Back then it would allow scaling. It seems silly that RDP can't do the same.

qvga screens have to allow scrolling otherwise the application would be unusable! Is there any way to scale your applications at the server end to be compliant with VGA resolution? what issues does it throw up? As far as I know VNC is your only alternative. You could try running remote desktop in portrait mode to see if that helps your cause any....

shame there's no application to allow resolution interpolation (as seen on 800 by 480 oqo UMPCs) this might 'trick' the remote desktop client into thinking it was running on a 1024 by 768 display and scale it accordingly.

I think I'm talking rubbish. Anyway maybe remote desktop client has a set resolution that it scales to: i.e. 640*480.

hammermedia
15-01-2008, 07:43 AM
I know Nyditot used to work on my ipaq but it's functionality on WM 6 is another story.

Does anyone have any experience with it on the Athena other than:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1379191&postcount=1

The following link gives hope:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1787128&postcount=11

The mocha client mentions that they didn't use higher resoutions because of licensing concerns and Microsoft. Bummer.

Vijay555 says the 640x480 resolution is hardcoded.

Does anyone have a microsoft contact to find out if there is an update coming in WM 6.1 / WM 7?

ice_coffee
16-01-2008, 03:54 AM
I had this working fine with the latest nyditot (you have to reboot with the keyboard disconnected) but dropped it when I went to the far far far superior Z2software remote 2PC

SunnyDrake
16-01-2008, 08:43 AM
i used vnc from desktops but tinyvnc client connected without problems to windows RDP.(but colors is little shaped compared to ms rdp client)
in my sight your problem is good rdp client software.. try vnc, sources available maybe you can even find or implement rdp desktop image software zoom on pda.

cottinghamm
16-01-2008, 12:25 PM
I did this yesterday, I RDP'd to a PC and then from there RDP'd to the server I needed access to. The PC connected to the server with a 1024 x 768 connection, so with scrolling I was able to move around the remote server's screen.

Not perfect by any means, but it does the job if needed.

hammermedia
17-01-2008, 07:35 AM
I had this working fine with the latest nyditot (you have to reboot with the keyboard disconnected) but dropped it when I went to the far far far superior Z2software remote 2PC

where you using Real VGA? If so did you have to go back to standard resolution reset then start nyditot then reset?

wildcard
20-01-2008, 06:44 AM
I have the same problem. My servers use 1024x768 resolution and many things dont work well with only a 640x480 desktop (which is what I get with Remote Desktop Mobile). I did try the mocha one and it works a little better, but only allows up to 800x600. I need one that supports at least 1024x768, anyone know of a RDP mobile client that would support 1024x768?

ice_coffee
27-01-2008, 04:47 AM
I have the same problem. My servers use 1024x768 resolution and many things dont work well with only a 640x480 desktop (which is what I get with Remote Desktop Mobile). I did try the mocha one and it works a little better, but only allows up to 800x600. I need one that supports at least 1024x768, anyone know of a RDP mobile client that would support 1024x768?

Yes www.z2software.com supports what ever res your computer is running and gives you the option to zoom in to 640X480 or closer

@hammermedia, yes I was using real VGA it worked well all you had to do, when first activiating nyditot reboot with the keyboard disconnected ! and when you get into Remote desktop go into the settings and tick "FULL SCREEN" and "FIT REMOTE DESKTOP TO SCREEN"

sergiopi
27-01-2008, 01:13 PM
I will suggest to check the LOGMEIN professional solutions ( www.logmein.com, the IT reach solution or the PRO solution. May be you will discover also that the FREE solution is enought :) ).
Test them for free.

I managed a medium sized IT company and the remote production machines management is ALWAYS a pain in.... and no solution is the "final solution".

In Logmein I love the resolution settings, (I use 800x600 resized on athena) and the settings to improve the speed and screen size on-the-fly
In 1024x768 on the athena I use the external mouse and just moving it in the corner the screen it scrolls in the direction needed, and is really fast.

The client is an IE or pocket IE plugin (firefox client available)

wgary
27-01-2008, 04:08 PM
I will suggest to check the LOGMEIN professional solutions ( www.logmein.com, the IT reach solution or the PRO solution. May be you will discover also that the FREE solution is enought :) ).
Test them for free.

I managed a medium sized IT company and the remote production machines management is ALWAYS a pain in.... and no solution is the "final solution".

In Logmein I love the resolution settings, (I use 800x600 resized on athena) and the settings to improve the speed and screen size on-the-fly
In 1024x768 on the athena I use the external mouse and just moving it in the corner the screen it scrolls in the direction needed, and is really fast.

The client is an IE or pocket IE plugin (firefox client available)
Another thumbs-up on LogMeIn. I use the free version for home and the "Pro" version for work, which allows more features like file transfer. It allows resetting the resolution on the host, then scaling the display (auto or a certain percent) on the Athena so you can get optimal control. The touchscreen sends mouse events. Very usable.

wildcard
20-03-2008, 03:36 PM
Yes www.z2software.com supports what ever res your computer is running and gives you the option to zoom in to 640X480 or closer

@hammermedia, yes I was using real VGA it worked well all you had to do, when first activiating nyditot reboot with the keyboard disconnected ! and when you get into Remote desktop go into the settings and tick "FULL SCREEN" and "FIT REMOTE DESKTOP TO SCREEN"

Just checked it out, it doesn't look like it's RDP. Are there any RDP mobile clients that support 1024x768 resolution?

ice_coffee
20-03-2008, 04:03 PM
Just checked it out, it doesn't look like it's RDP. Are there any RDP mobile clients that support 1024x768 resolution?

it's true that it does not use MS remote desktop, it uses there own s/ware but it is truly excellent ! far superior to the MS stuff

stpete111
22-03-2008, 10:11 PM
Do any solutions offer remote sound so that I can hear my pc's sound on my phone? I've tried LogMeIn, the Z2 app, and the normal MS RD. None of them will actually let me hear the sound of my desktop (i.e. if I play a music file). LogMeIn says it supports remote sound on the Pro version, but I tried it, and it must only work with other desktop pc's and not pocket pc's.

ice_coffee
23-03-2008, 10:47 AM
if you want to listen to music from your computer at home, I suggest you install ORB as it is free of charges and excellent ! (+ you can watch videos from home too)

The sound quality over RDP is poor and scratchy, it is also buffered badly

mattnzl
27-03-2008, 10:55 PM
How about this one: http://www.zatelnet.com/zadesktop/main.php

Haven't tried it so no idea, but it does say it supports 1024x768 over RDP

cottinghamm
27-03-2008, 11:27 PM
i have just started using LogMeIn for remote desktop, it is significantly better than RDP although requires a bit of set up.

for remote admin and access to standard windows apps from the Athena it is really very good.

hammermedia
28-03-2008, 02:15 AM
I installed the Mocha client and it works pretty good for 800x600.

The whole point of RDP is that it's standard on Windows PC's and it works well in low bandwidth much better than VNC. Don't get me wrong, I love VNC and have been using it for almost 10 years on my home PC.

However, I have a dozen Windows servers that must run 24 hours a day and I don't install ANYTHING on them if I can help it. It's a matter of stability.

jhamilton
18-07-2008, 05:13 PM
How about this one: http://www.zatelnet.com/zadesktop/main.php

Haven't tried it so no idea, but it does say it supports 1024x768 over RDP

Just tired it on PPC6800 running 6.1 ROM.
A little buggy, but definately does the job.
Thanks for the Link

hammermedia
22-07-2008, 01:57 AM
zaDesktop works with resolution up to 1024x768. I also like how it will dial up a connection - specifically my VPN when needed.